1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Really Revere. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 2: Donks look at us now, tip to tip. This is 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, back in familiar surroundings. 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: Hold on, I gotta make a quick phone call. Hey, Tooey, 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: let's bang. It's Morning Combat in studio, Jersey City. Look Thomas, 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: Brian Campbell, Friday July seventh, two Thy twenty three and Luke, 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 3: I don't need to tell you what is on the 11 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 3: Combat Sports calendar this weekend. 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: It goes down tonight. It's Power Slap three on IFW 13 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Power Slap three. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: My balldag is ready. 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: Hey, we have a fantastic show for you today, setting 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: the stage and the foundation to set you off onto 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: UFC two this weekend with our Okay bet picks, we 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: will hit the biggest news in the sport, including a 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 3: preview of Saturday Showtime Championship Boxing and the return of 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: Jeron Boots NS. 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: We got interviews and sound. 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: From so many people, Luke, We're gonna look at that 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: istory a lot of Sonya, John Jones Chance meeting in 25 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 3: Las Vegas, and so much more Little Dana talk sprinkledon 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: Uncle Dana. 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Are you ready? 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 3: That sounded almost DX like of you, like, are you ready? 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Remember they had that theme song that was almost like 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: stem face the pain. 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: Like, I don't know the theme song. Are those the 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: guys who did there? Yeah? Yeah, the crotch? Yeah. 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: I think it's still in fashion or an nostalgic way 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: to bring that back in polate everyday society. 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: Just kind of do that grind, you know, you go 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: to the Chipotlean, that's how you de order. 37 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: I want that dobo. 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: Chick, That's what I'm talking about. 39 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: You can wear our merch if you like the spectacular 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: golf shirt that I'm filling out at the moment by 41 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: going to Morningcombat Dot store. 42 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: RJ Ballbag back on the job, I've heard. 43 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 4: I haven't seen anything new on the story yet, but 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: he allegedly is there. 45 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: All right, he's got a great consulting company that he started. 46 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: Yes he does. 47 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: Yes, shout out to our J and average jo Ard 48 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: who is making a run in these parts. Probably more 49 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: on that to come look house. 50 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 3: It feels me back in our Jersey City stomping grounds, 51 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: the former the former bomb shelter, the former orchids of combat. 52 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: It feels like the stands in the hour glass, passing, 53 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 1: passing through. 54 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 2: This was our last time here. We did have a 55 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: great run, Luke. 56 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: So I'd like to say thank you everybody though behind 57 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: the scenes, who gets this done. 58 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: We are here, We're alive, we're ready, we are well. 59 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: Shout out to our marchal crew behind the scenes, Mikey 60 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: mor Mile on the ones and two some CBS sports 61 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: as well. 62 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: Uh, it's always great seeing Gaff and Long Island. 63 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: Luke in the moons. All right, all right, some nice 64 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: new faces today too. You're gonna indoctrine them into your flatulence. 65 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: Not until you close talk him first and tell them 66 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: do your five minutes of Brian Campbell material. 67 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: There it is. It's the it's the it's the hardest 68 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: five in the business. 69 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Right. 70 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: It's only about a thousand of us out. 71 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: There, Luke. No one gets a lot of silence. 72 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: No one gives you a harder five than me and 73 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: Connor at the way in right, we get a lot 74 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: of crickets, a lot of crickets, all right, jokes aside, 75 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: all that behind us, any other business you want to get. 76 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: To or can we just you know, let's bang to 77 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: me all right there it is love. 78 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: Of course, as you already you know, Luke and I 79 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 3: will be on the scene Saturday Showtime Championship Boxing, but 80 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: don't forget we will be there after UFC two ninety 81 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: as well as you see the information there Saturday night, 82 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: that tripleheader nine thirty pm Eastern on Showtime Dram Boots and. 83 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: It's Royman and Villa. 84 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 3: Also Luke, episode one of All Excess Spence versus Crawford. 85 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: Right there before that nine pm Eastern Saturday night, you 86 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: can catch us on the prelimbs, which begin at seven 87 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: thirty Eastern in Atlantic City with Stephen Jackson ringside calling 88 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 3: the action. Thirty days free to Showtime right now. If 89 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: you want to see more, go to Showtime dot com. Luke, 90 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 3: let is, let's kick this thing off with a bang. 91 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: We're going to start this week with our weekly betting segment, 92 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 3: and you better believe it's all things UFC two ninety. 93 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: We call this okay bet bitch, Oh yeah, Luke, a 94 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: little Gassi today on the on the upstairs. 95 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: You know, do we have the updated record on we do? 96 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 5: I did? 97 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: Like so last week Luke, you and I both went 98 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: two and three, So you're updating standings of futility. Have 99 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: Luke Thomas just over five hundred at forty six forty 100 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: five and. 101 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: Three, Your boy BC is ever so slightly knocking Lukey 102 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: once again. 103 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: I am exactly as valuable as flipping a coin, and 104 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: BC is decidedly worse. 105 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: As Dennis Larry once said in a bit that I'm 106 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: not sure he actually stole from Bill Hicks on an 107 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: MTV commercial. 108 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: I think you hear me knocking, Luke, and I think 109 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: I'm coming in. 110 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: There. 111 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: You go very much. Thank you. 112 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 3: Shout out to No Cure for Cancer with a lot 113 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: of stolen bits, still spectaculary comedy. 114 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: No Cure for Cancer gave me a lot of happy memory. 115 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: It really did. You know that's probably because you're an asshole. 116 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: You're an asshole. I can shavee my all right, Luke. 117 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: Look two ninety International Fight Week this weekend. A lot 118 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: of debate, Like you know, we've been through it up 119 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: and down. Is this a real if W cart is 120 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: it not? Is their showcase fights? Is They're not? It's 121 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: a pretty damn good card. Do you have a grade 122 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: on the card? 123 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: Just before we start, because Chef Mesher gave it an 124 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 3: A yesterday and I was like. 125 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: A, yeah, I think a minus is probably about what 126 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: I would give it. 127 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: A minus. 128 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: He's about B plus B plus I think is fair. 129 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 4: I think it's a minus B plus. It's kind of 130 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 4: right around dates. 131 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: Well, it depends, like for this calendar year, it's an 132 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: A plus, but for the expectations for if. 133 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: W it's a little bit different. 134 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: We've been through the storylines though, it's now it's time 135 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: to get into the picks. 136 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: Luke. 137 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: The main event the Featherweight Championship of the World the unification, 138 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 3: as Alexander Volknowski seeks the fifth defense of the title 139 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 3: he won from Max Holloway when he welcomes interim champion 140 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 3: Mexico's own Yeah, year, Rodriguez, Luke, you get to championship 141 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: advantage here, you going. 142 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: First or second? I'll go first? 143 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: All right? 144 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: Bring it? 145 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: Who wins? 146 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: Why I have to dead wrong myself in my pronunciation 147 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: for uh. 148 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: Not for art, Well, you gave about seventeen hat a 149 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 3: guy pronunciations. 150 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: Right, not horror guy. I don't think it's horror guy. Well, 151 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 4: I mean the horror guy is what you do in traffic? 152 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 2: Would you rather us butcher? 153 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 3: At once with something like horror guy, or you stumble 154 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: and apologize over seventeen attempt. 155 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 4: My best understanding is it's not I was saying it 156 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: kind of like A like ahuand like a jun, but 157 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: it's it's a j A. Sorry, it's a it's a Yeah, 158 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 4: it's j au. So it's more howarder gi versus what 159 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 4: I was saying, the. 160 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: H A w R. 161 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 2: How does JA pronounce it himself? John Anick, That's what 162 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: I want to know. 163 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 4: I don't know because that's the definitive one, because heals 164 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: it's definitely not the definitive. 165 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: He researches the origin. 166 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 4: It's definitely a mostly reliable one, but not the definitive one. 167 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: Okay, neither here nor there. 168 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 4: For the main event for UFC two ninety UFC two ninety. 169 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: I did struggle with this one a little bit. 170 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 4: I had a hard time coming to a conclusion because 171 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: I just couldn't decide exactly. 172 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. 173 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: I take the contender here very seriously, but I was 174 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: just thinking the Emmett fight. I don't know how representative 175 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 4: that is because Emmett was kind of absorbing, catching, blocking, 176 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: and then just trying to throw from way far away. 177 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 4: That's just really not the kind of game volkanovs he's 178 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: going to play. More Over, some of the success that 179 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: Max had on the ground against year, I think that 180 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: Volkanovski can at least repeat some of that, or at 181 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 4: a bare minimum use that particular dimension to his benefit. 182 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 4: So b see, even though he is a little bit 183 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 4: long in the tooth, give me Alexander Volkanovo. 184 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: Let me come on, he's thirty four, the popa poung king, 185 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: in the prime of his game, and he just came 186 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: out and almost beating, almost beating Mahachevs. 187 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: So now you're going to tell me that he's long 188 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: in the tooth. 189 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: For high level guys, he's getting up there. Yeah, for 190 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 4: high level guys. 191 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: He has yet to reach your favorite statistic, the. 192 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: Thirty five year old mark. Yes, he's close, though, but you. 193 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: Once told Lorisenko and cornered her that time on have 194 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 3: you seen this year on the fan subjection? 195 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, what does this mean? 196 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: Comedy? 197 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: No, but there's no comedy there to mean something else. 198 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: You don't remember that fantastic fan sub last time where 199 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: they I. 200 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: Don't remember cornering Laura Senko. 201 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: Now the whole bit of that bit was that you 202 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: were cornering a woman who happened to look like Laura Sanko. 203 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 4: Actually, oh sorry, I thought you were actually saying that 204 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 4: we had her here for r. 205 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: You've become so desensitized that you think everything's a skitting 206 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: bit in the holster, right. 207 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: But part of what you do is blurring that line. 208 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Luke, go ahead, I did Volkanski. Go ahead? 209 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 2: That's it, Tolkosky. 210 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to Volkanowski if my main event pic. 211 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: Yes, no other analysis there and now I gave you something. Okay, 212 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 2: Well here's what I'm going to tell you. 213 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm updating the odds right now as we speak. Luke, 214 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 3: if you can deal with me looking down here see 215 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: plus two ninety three seventy for Volkanowski. It comes down 216 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: like this is Yeah, you're arguably arguably the most dangerous 217 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 3: test in terms in terms of the version of he 218 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: is right now of the reign of van I think 219 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: that's fair. 220 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 2: I think that's fair. 221 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 3: I actually think that the odds are a little bit 222 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: wider than I expected, given exactly. 223 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: What ya year does. 224 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 3: The question is, as we laid it out on Wednesday, 225 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 3: how does Vulk deal with the unpredictability. 226 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you. 227 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 2: Saw in the countdown video in the in the UH, 228 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: in the UH embedded that Vulk has been using Blood 229 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: Diamond as his sort of kickboxing muse to to try 230 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: to mimic. 231 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: What Yaya can do. You know, will that help? Well? 232 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: People made fun of John Jones training with some guys 233 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: who are not all star killers in the UFC. You 234 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 4: mean Maurice Green, not just him, not just him, and 235 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 4: John Jones went in there and just beat the shit 236 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: out of Serial Gun relatively quickly. Actually, so sparring partners 237 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 4: don't need to be world beaters. 238 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 3: You want to try to mimic the expectations of what 239 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 3: you're going to see. The thing is, though, Vulk deals 240 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: with everything. Look on Orthodox Orthodox. He's a genius at 241 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 3: this game. He's rounding out his game while still not 242 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 3: so old in the tooth in the term of adding 243 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: the wrestling. And look at what he did and not 244 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: getting dominated by Maha. You have to have an argument 245 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 3: to have won that fight. Look at what he did 246 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 3: to break down TKZ and get him out of there 247 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: in that last minute fight. Look at Luke, you know 248 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: the poison that he showed against ortego when he actually 249 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: was in a brief moment of peril there, extreme peril. 250 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: He can just do it all. This is not the 251 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: time to bet against him. Could Yayar pull this off? Absolutely? 252 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: But Luke Thomas, I think Volk is too smart not 253 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 3: to have a strategy here that is aimed at exactly 254 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 3: that disarming yeah year, keeping away from his strength. And 255 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 3: to me, this isn't angan u gon prediction all over again. 256 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: But that's wrestling, Luke, that's wrestling. We're going to see 257 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: Alexander Volkanowski wrestle in strategic times because one video that's 258 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: making the rounds, I don't know if you saw it 259 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: was from that Holloway fight against Yaya, which was a 260 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: fantastic fight. If ya ear wins on Saturday, I expect 261 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 3: a title rematch there. But did you see how often 262 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: Max became a wrestler that night, how he went full 263 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: mount on him, how you know late in that fight 264 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: he was absolutely smothering and dominating to some degree. With 265 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: that strategy, I can see Vulk implementing that and whether 266 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: he goes exactly that lane or juggles a lot of 267 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 3: different things, which is what he does best in terms 268 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: of mapping out what you bring to the table and 269 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 3: decoding it. 270 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 2: This is what this man does. He's fresh off this 271 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: Mahachev fight, which is the greatest victory in a non 272 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: win I think we've seen in a long time. 273 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna get his hand raise. He's going to get 274 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: the job done. Five defenses. But you've got an interesting 275 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: video out there right now in the morning Combat channel 276 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat debating a topic, look 277 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: that has come up this week, whether it's now, whether 278 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: it's after if Yayer loses to Vulk, is Vulk really 279 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: knocking on the door of featherweight Goathood against Josialdo or 280 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: is that. 281 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: A time filler podcast debate in nothing more? 282 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I these questions are actually worth asking. 283 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: I believe, like if you won't always get a neat 284 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 4: and orderly answer, and you don't get a neat an 285 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: orderly answer here. But I put out a video it's 286 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 4: up noow YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat basically asking 287 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: who's the featherweight go here? 288 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: We have three? 289 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: You could maybe throw Connor in that discussion. I don't 290 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: think he's really belong but you guys, what was. 291 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 2: He seven to zero six stoppages at featherweight, but. 292 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: No title defenses, is really true? Kind of. 293 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: Holloway. 294 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I didn't say he did poorly at featherweight. I'm just 295 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: talking about the very best. 296 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: I'm just saying he's in this debate. 297 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: He's in the debate at the tail end of it. 298 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 4: At the tail end of it, I mean at the 299 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: front of it, it's Aldo Volkanowski and Holloway. I would 300 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 4: put him probably in that order. And so the question 301 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: is who's the greatest featherweight of all time? And there's 302 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: a lot of consternation about this when there really shouldn't be. 303 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 4: But you should just be careful about the question you're asking, 304 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 4: because if you're asking who the featherweight goat is, the 305 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 4: answer is basically very straightforward. You're asking who did the 306 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 4: best at featherweight, and in particular who did the best 307 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 4: in the championship version of it. Right, So let's look 308 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: at their overall weight class resume and in particular the 309 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 4: championship once, since we're asking the very best of it, right, 310 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 4: that's what to me would define actually the best fighter 311 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 4: to have a one forty five pound resume. And if 312 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: that's the argument, and I think it should be Aldo 313 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 4: walks away with it very cleanly. He was championed for 314 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 4: twenty five hundred days consecutively, nine consecutive title defenses, right 315 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: behind Anderson Silva, second youngest champion in UFC history, and 316 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: by the time he was fighting for titles in WEC, 317 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: Alex Bolkonowski haven't even made his pro debut yet. And 318 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: I mean, like in a similar age, right, Like his 319 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 4: ability to capture a title so early into his MMA 320 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: run is again, with the exception of John Jones, basically 321 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 4: unheard of, right, But that's not asking the same question 322 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 4: as who is the best one forty five? I should 323 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: say right here, I don't like fish who is the 324 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 4: best fighter to ever compete at one forty five? And 325 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 4: I want to quickly just draw a distinction. If I made, 326 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 4: then you can push back, which is, if someone has 327 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: some of their career, you can define what it means 328 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 4: to have fought at featherweight, not necessarily be known as 329 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 4: entirely a featherweight fighter. But let's imagine you had let's 330 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: say three or four fights, you won them all up 331 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: a contender ship, and then you move up a weight class, 332 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 4: and then you go on to do like really incredible things. 333 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: You would say that the best fighter to. 334 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: Ever compete at one forty five is not necessarily the 335 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: guy that has the best resume at that weight class. 336 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 4: And so while Volkanowski's resume is good, it's in terms 337 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: of the championship stuff it's not as good. But but BC, 338 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 4: he does have three wins over Max Holloway. 339 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: He has a very clean win over Jose Aldo. Not debatable. 340 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you can lay off both sides, which is 341 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 2: what you're but that's not what we want, Audie. 342 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: We want one side. And this is what Jed you 343 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: tried to do yesterday an fight. Try to say there's 344 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: a different between greatest and best. Put them together. Call 345 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: it the the grest, call it the brayist Luke, who's 346 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 3: the damn featherweight goat? 347 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear. 348 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: Well, you could stand this side of the fence with 349 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 3: this evidence, you can stand this side. 350 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: I want an answer. 351 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: I want an answer. I just gave it to you. 352 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: What's your answer? You said it was all though. 353 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: In terms of who is the featherweight goat, Yes, it's 354 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: Jose Olice. 355 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: I don't think it's crazy to say volk Now, I don't. 356 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: I mean because you nailed it on the head to head. 357 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: The head to head to me is how you separate 358 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: arguments when things are close. 359 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: If you're only going to lean on title defense. So 360 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: we talking if he beats you talking about I'm talking 361 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 2: about that added thing of one more crazy great name 362 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: on his resume. 363 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: He was at the peak of his powers at that time. 364 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: If you're only going to lean on title defenses, you 365 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: can give it to all the time. 366 00:14:58,720 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: He was a damn hero. 367 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: But I think a lot of what people lean on 368 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: with Aldo is the ten year unbeaten run. Vulk had 369 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: a similar ten year I think it was nine years 370 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: and ten months that just ended with Machev. 371 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: Vulk is also unbeaten over his career in this weight class. 372 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: Routina, No, but. 373 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: It's the head to head thing. They're only two years 374 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: and two months apart. I get that Aldo's peak prime 375 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: was early, much earlier, but the version of him at 376 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: thirty two when they did go head to head was 377 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: fresh off of consecutive knockouts of Moikano and Jeremy Stevens 378 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: was refreshed for that fight. I was telling people wrongly 379 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: on this microphone for years that that was Jose's last 380 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: fight of that UFC deal. 381 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 4: No, I think he was and Stevens after he lost 382 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: to Vulk. Right, No, it was before. Look I got 383 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: you have to check it's right. 384 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: It was before. 385 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: Okay, well wait on that then go ahead. 386 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: My point, well that I'm going to lose your ear listening. 387 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: My point is this Luke he had rebuilt himself, he 388 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: was thirty two years old, and what do we see 389 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: him go on to do? Jose he went on to 390 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 3: move down the division into the deepest division of the 391 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: sporting get to the title level, even though he got 392 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: there with a split decision loss aginst mirash. If he's 393 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: washed in all that thirty two when they went head 394 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: to head, then what is Volkanovsky now at thirty four? Again, 395 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: I get that there's different peakier primes, but look, we 396 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: not only have the head to head. The point I 397 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: brought up at the contract I used to explain it away. 398 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: Why was Jose when he did go head to head 399 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: with Vulks so out of answers, so one sided, so 400 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: almost like you know what you win. I'm just gonna 401 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: kind of circle away, like I'm so frustrated. Look, he 402 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: had signed the new contract that week before that fight, 403 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 3: so that's not the excuse. So if it's only the 404 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 3: Vulcan versus Jose head to head argument on that one fight, 405 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that's enough to lift him up. But 406 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: the fact that, as you mentioned, that he not only 407 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: beat the guy, he beat the guy who beat the 408 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 3: guy twice. 409 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: Max Holloway knocked out violently in. 410 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: The third round in consecutive fights against a still prime 411 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: Aldo who was champion in the first fight, and Vulk 412 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 3: beat that dude three And even though even though although 413 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 3: does have that w EC run that cannot be forgotten 414 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: or cannot be one upped, what they have done head 415 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: to head in the UFC at the elite level is 416 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: basically a picklem in terms of what. 417 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: Let's career. 418 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: So there, let's let's compare the top end. 419 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I'm gonna go. 420 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 4: I looked up the ranking of every single opponent that 421 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 4: Jose Aldo had in the month before he fought them 422 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 4: for the two the extent that there was rankings available, 423 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 4: with the exception of Haminic, almost every single one was 424 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 4: one or two. 425 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: Most of them were one. 426 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 4: In fact, the average rating of his opponent I think 427 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 4: is right at two in terms of what their ranking 428 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 4: was like. 429 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: Name someone in his entire run that he. 430 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 3: Ducked, both having equally strong resumes within the UFC. 431 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: At the top of the featherwaight to no, they don't. 432 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: They don't they have the. 433 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 4: Same title defenses. Jose Aldo was champion for much longer. 434 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: Jose Aldo did much he was his Uh let's see. 435 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 4: So not only did he hold the title for longer, 436 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 4: and not only does he have obviously more of the 437 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 4: wins against top contenders as a consequence, but for example, he. 438 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: Has Okay, you understand, I'm not talking about WEC right now, 439 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 3: I'm talking about user N. 440 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: Why would you exclude that because. 441 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 3: I'm trying to show you that I get that there's 442 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: always going to be that one up for what all 443 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 3: though did in WC, And I do like to count 444 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 3: the overall total title defenses and if that is your 445 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: debate of look, he just has more title defenses than 446 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 3: at this point, you can't argue that. 447 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: Yes, but in terms of who he. 448 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 3: Became in his prime in the UFC, who he beat, 449 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 3: the amount of finishes is basically a push with Volkanowski. 450 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 4: It's not their finishing rates are different. 451 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: As check it out, Luke is check out when Josh 452 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 2: d one. 453 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 4: Hundred and forty five pound foughts al those finishing rate 454 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 4: was eleven for twenty two or fifty percent, and title 455 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 4: fights he went four for fourteen or twenty nine percent. 456 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 4: Volkanovski is less than that on both of those measures 457 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 4: by a considerable margin. 458 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: Over their last I think it was eight or nine 459 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: fights atop the featherweight division. They have the same amount 460 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 2: of finishes, and that's two h luke in terms of 461 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 2: what in terms of who they beat and how they 462 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: beat them. 463 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: I guess I don't understand what you're saying. 464 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 4: I'm trying to explain to you, Like at Aldo's finishing 465 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: rate for the entirety of his title fights, he has 466 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 4: four finishes. 467 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: You're saying is two. No, he has four. 468 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: Okay, uh uh oh, you mean just UFC again, we're 469 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: doing that once again. I don't think it's I don't 470 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: think you can have a real argument and say that 471 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: beating Mike Thomas Brown in your ry of favor when 472 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 4: those guys were the very best in the world, is 473 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 4: somehow exempt from this conversation. 474 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's exempt from this conversation. It was 475 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: a different organization. I get though, at the point it 476 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: was the elite organization in the world. 477 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: Since they've come to the UFC. 478 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: In my opinion, it's close enough basically head to head 479 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 3: in terms of who they beat, what they accomplished as champion, 480 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 3: that that would allow the one up that Volkanowski has 481 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: in both head to head and thoroughly defeating three times, 482 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: you know, once two out of three times, kind of 483 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: cleanly thoroughly defeating the guy who finished although twice that's 484 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: enough if you want to make that argument that Volkanofsky 485 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,719 Speaker 3: has done enough right now as he's kind of closing 486 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: in on the top ten all time Luke that he 487 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 3: might have actually done enough on the other side of that, 488 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: if it's only. 489 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: Title defenses and only names he beat. 490 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Volkanovsky hasn't been on top in the UFC as long, right, 491 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 3: But if you're going to compare their UFC runs and 492 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: take into account the head to head, I think there's 493 00:19:58,800 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 3: enough there for Volknowski. 494 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you can compare their head to head, You 495 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 4: can compare their UFC runs. You just cannot exclude the 496 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 4: WEC runs. I just tried to draw a line in 497 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: the sand and say this isn't really relative for the 498 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: conversation is just matter of factly untrue. 499 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: Those were the very best guys in the world. 500 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: There were some argument about some of the guys in 501 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 4: Japan coming over, but to the extent that they did, 502 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 4: they got fucking washed. So when the end history actually 503 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 4: bailed out WEC in that regard, those were the very 504 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 4: best in the world and jose Aldo was an absolute 505 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,479 Speaker 4: Did I remember exactly where I was. I was at 506 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 4: my wife's with at the time girlfriend's apartment watching WEC 507 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 4: when Josey Aldo beat the fucking shit out of Mike 508 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: Thomas Brown, which was a not a shock, but the 509 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: ease with which he did it was a huge moment. 510 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 4: Jo a monster, Yes, and that counts as part of 511 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: his featherweight record. Again, we're not saying UFC featherweight, were 512 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: saying all time featherweight record, so Tunic. So for that reason, 513 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: Pitbull would be eligible to be in the conversation. Whether 514 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 4: you put them there so obviously different matter, but I'm 515 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: saying in that way, and I get the point that, 516 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 4: like for example, Volkanowski hasn't lost yet, so it took 517 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 4: seven years I think in the US, so two thousand 518 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: and nine, twenty fifteen and a little bit beyond that 519 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 4: took about a seven year stretch competing inside w zufaback 520 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 4: organizations for him to lose a total of sixteenth fights. 521 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 4: Volkanowski lost through thirteen, albeit up aweight class, and there 522 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 4: is some controversy, but it happened a little bit quicker. 523 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: But now this is Volkanovsky's seventh year. So they're getting 524 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 4: to a point where I think, if he beats the 525 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: Air and then let's say, for example, he beats Toporia, 526 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 4: even though he wouldn't have the exact same amount, now 527 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: we can begin to compare like with the quality of 528 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: That was a little bit because the point about beating 529 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 4: Max is important. But he's only got title defenses against 530 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 4: three names. 531 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: That's the issue. 532 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: Ites or take a Korean zombie and then two against Max, 533 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 4: whereas Aldo has fucking seven, He's got seven of them. 534 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: Two of them Chad Frankie Edgar the former one fifty 535 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: five pounds Champ. 536 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: Two of them Chad Mendez. 537 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 4: Who give everybody of his era an extremely difficult fight. 538 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 4: Like I understand that Volkanovsky is the innovator to everything 539 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 4: from Aldo's generation, and actually a little bit afterwards, he 540 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: is a manifestly better fighter about that, dude, they fought, 541 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 4: Like we. 542 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: Don't even have to like speculate what happened if they fought. 543 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: We know well that I guess that's what I'm saying. 544 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm putting up Jose's wec other worldliness with the fact 545 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: that that Volk has a clear edge and head to 546 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: head against each other and against their most relevant elite opponent. 547 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: And also Luke and correct me if I'm wrong. In history, 548 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: and I had this debate again with Jed Alex is 549 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 3: number one in the world, like he's the pound for 550 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: pound king and he's depending on but Andy's coming and 551 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: I know John also is getting some votes in this conversation. 552 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: Was Jose all although number. 553 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: One with the boys, So I put that in my 554 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: essay as well. He was never that guy that's in 555 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: some way, but but you have. 556 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: To acknowledge he also competed alongside the Demitrius Johnson's of 557 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 4: the world, the gsps of the world, the Anderson Silva's 558 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 4: of the world. John Jones is light heavyweight rain and 559 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 4: of course whatever else you want to say about him, 560 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 4: that it's the best guy to ever do it in 561 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 4: that weight class. 562 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, standing out amongst those. 563 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 4: Guys granted he never achieved that position, but he was 564 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 4: around at a formidable time for the development of all 565 00:22:59,400 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 4: time greats. 566 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: It's going to be very difficult. Again. 567 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 4: To me, it's not a question of like, who is 568 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: the most talented guy I've ever seen fight at that 569 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: weight class? That's that's one kind of conversation. It's we're 570 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: asking who's the most accomplished. The most accomplished is jose Albacy. 571 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: It's most accomplished slash Best. That's really the debate. 572 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: The debate is they're not the same thing. 573 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: You want to separate them. They're not the same thing, 574 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: But I think they also have to be factored in. 575 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: They could be the same. Like pum for pound. 576 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 3: I don't think pound for pound the baseline should be 577 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: everything you accomplished. In my opinion, what you accomplished gets 578 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 3: you in the discussion of who's in the top ten, 579 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: who's your number one pound for pound guy? 580 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: Right now? What separates that discussion is either head to 581 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: head or the fantasy matchmaking your head of what would 582 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: actually look like if these guys did fight. 583 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: What separates their skills and abilities? I just think that 584 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 3: we have enough on the other side of that conversation 585 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 3: with Volkanovsky where it's not insulting to say he is. 586 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: You can lean either way, But I don't think you 587 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 3: can say, asking. 588 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: Me if Volkanofsky is better, he is better. 589 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 4: If you're asking me, has he done more in a 590 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 4: featherweight campaign to rival what Jose Aldo has done? 591 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: I just think, to me, a matter of factly, he 592 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: has not. 593 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 3: Right, Well, I guess what I'm saying at the end 594 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: is that those criterity criterias both matter though in this debate. 595 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: So it's not you can just say, well, if we're 596 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 3: only talking about this, it's this, It's no, it's everything, 597 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 3: it's everything together. I think Alex is the better fighter 598 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: of roll. And I took me a long time to 599 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: get to that point. He used it to be a 600 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: long time. 601 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that difficult to think. I don't know. 602 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 4: Here's what I would say to push back on you 603 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: a little bit. I don't even understand why it's debatable, 604 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 4: Like who's the better fighter? 605 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: They fucking fought, Like we knew the answer to that. 606 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 4: Like even even if Volkanowski had never fought after the 607 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 4: Aldo fight, it would still be true. This is my point, 608 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 4: Like he's definitely better, but like Aldo was not you know, 609 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: you know, like kind of at the end. He didn't 610 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 4: have many fights after the Volkanowski fight. End of his 611 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 4: reign is a little bit obviously not quite true. People 612 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 4: blow up the fact that he went to Bantawait and 613 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: did well, but like the reality is, he never matched 614 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: his competitive fortunes at for theweight at all. In fact, 615 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 4: it was he did well at one thirty five, but 616 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 4: he was never great at one. 617 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 2: He did, he did very well. But I don't think 618 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: you can ever not mention that he lost what I 619 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: thought was a clean split decision, lost him and got 620 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: the title shop because of fame. 621 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: And he got the shit beaten out of him by Yon. 622 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: But Joe, he got that title shopping because of fame, right, yeah, right, 623 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: that's not really part of this debate, But that's also true. 624 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 4: He got wrecked by Yon, and you know, the Morob 625 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 4: fight was weird, and I don't know what you want 626 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 4: to say about that, But my point is about Bansamwait. 627 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 4: I don't measure any of that when evaluating who the 628 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 4: best one to forty five is because it's quite literally 629 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 4: irrelevant if we're asking who the best guy to have, 630 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: like who's a mast the best resume in that weight class. 631 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 4: Then you have to look at what they did in 632 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: the weight class, Like that's the question you have to 633 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: be asking yourself. Indeed, so for that reason, I feels 634 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 4: like I'll go to clean sweep. 635 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: But all right, look let's continue. 636 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: Oh before we get down the other road of Okay, 637 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 3: bet we did see a press conference this week. We 638 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 3: have sort of tuned into some of the media, uh, 639 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: you know, presentations from the UFC on YouTube and stuff. 640 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 3: What's your take on on this fight week? There has 641 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: been a lot of respect, there's not some deep trash talking. 642 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 3: Even the Robert Whitaker DDP one has gone off fairly. 643 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: It seems like a happier week, if I can be honest. 644 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,479 Speaker 4: The John Jones thing with is he was like a 645 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: happier has always a Although Anderson Silva not showing up 646 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame, I gotta tell you, like 647 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: that can't be accidental, right, Like. 648 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: He did send this sun to represent them. 649 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: Okay, he didn't completely tell him to go fuck themselves, 650 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: but what was he doing that he couldn't be there? 651 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: I just I think. 652 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: Him and Jake Paul are making an MMA union. I 653 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: think that's what they were doing. 654 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, good luck with that. 655 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: Yes, So you know, what I would say is that 656 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 4: people I think are ready to celebrate. It seems like 657 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 4: there's a there's really a mood, a convivial mood that 658 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 4: I think. And I texted a bunch of the guys 659 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 4: on the ground there and I was like, how is 660 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: the mood? And it seems like that, Like most people 661 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 4: are telling me that, there's a general kind of buzz 662 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 4: going on. 663 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: People are pretty happy to be there. It's not over the. 664 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: Top, it's not crazy as you wouldn't expect it to be, 665 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 4: but I think, you know, generally it's a peaceful, excited atmosphere. 666 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: All right, there you go. 667 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 3: I've been, I guess, pleasantly surprised to see certain people 668 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: get close up to see the replacement opponent for for Bonnickel, 669 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: for Treyshaon Gore came in with the eighties sort of 670 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 3: tied I open, look shirtless and I'm talking about what's the. 671 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: Guy's name, Luke, What what's the guy's name? Who? 672 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: The new opponent for Bonnico? Oh, yes, Valo del Wouodburn 673 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: came in a nice eighties inspired sort of you know 674 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 2: quasi Zuba's looking outfit shirtless. 675 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I like that. 676 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 2: Do you like that they brought Robbie Lawler up to 677 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: the press conference for this? 678 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: I did. He actually had some thoughtful things to words. Yeah. 679 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dana even too, had you know, had had some 680 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: nice I don't. 681 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: Know what to say about Jens Pulver's haircut, though, I 682 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: don't know what to say about that was real passion, great, 683 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: The passion was fantastic. 684 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 3: Luke, we continue, Okay, bet we're both taking Volkanovsky in 685 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 3: that mean event. 686 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: Let's go now to favorite. 687 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 4: For favorite, A couple of directions you obviously could go, 688 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 4: you know, in keeping with the fact that you can't 689 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 4: pick an outlandish favorite again maybe one of the better 690 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: fights on this card for a lot of reasons. 691 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: But I like. 692 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 4: Brandon Moreno at minus two ten. Give me him for 693 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 4: my favorite. 694 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: Now. 695 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: It is strange, perhaps to some, to pick a guy 696 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 4: who has already fought this opponent twice and lost badly 697 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: the first time, and then got his ass kicked the 698 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 4: second time. If you've never seen the second Moreno Pantoja fight, 699 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 4: it's a beatdown. Pantoja just works them over. But that 700 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 4: was what five years ago, and I just feel like 701 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: Moreno was in a completely different space in his development. 702 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: Pantoja is still a very dangerous, dangerous FOEBC. 703 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: I like Moreno's chances here a minus two ten interesting. Interesting. 704 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: We'll get to that takeing some chalk, I realize. 705 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 3: Further on my favorite, Luke, I'm gonna stay on the 706 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 3: main card there, but I'm gonna go to the lightweight division. 707 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: It's the Tarantula's time. 708 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 3: Jalen Turner, Yes, coming off that split decision loss to 709 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 3: Gamrat last time, but five wins with five finishes before that, Luke, 710 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 3: we don't, you know, tend to lead on vain topics 711 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: like this, But did the hair color choice of Dan 712 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: Hooker this week at the press conference make you higher 713 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 3: or lower on his chances? 714 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: Did he address what the reason for going blonde was? 715 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 716 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: That press conference is kind of lame. I was kind 717 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: of half listening to a lot of it. I don't 718 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 3: I don't think they asked him. I don't think they'd 719 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 3: impulse decision. According to Long Island. 720 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: Luke, probably not going to matter against Jalen Turner. 721 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 2: Well, look, Hooker believes victory, and probably rightfully so. If 722 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: he packages a victory here with the player stoppage, He's 723 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: back into contention. 724 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: This feels, though, like a tough matchup by a tough time. 725 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Turner is coming on, he's feeling himself. 726 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: Does Hooker needs to wrestle more? Does he need to 727 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 3: reinvent himself? Either way, Luke, I'm picking the tarantula. I 728 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: think Turner comes over the top. I just hope he 729 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 3: doesn't do it by stoppage. 730 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: I hope. 731 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: I hope Dan Hooker comes out and is able to 732 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: show the best of what's left of him. 733 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I write my concerns. Yeah, I think your pick 734 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:25,719 Speaker 1: about Turner is right. 735 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: Though he looks like a beast, and you know, losing 736 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 4: to Gamrot that's one thing. That's a very very tough 737 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 4: guy with the bad style matchup this one, it's like, dude, 738 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: Hooker's going to accommodate him on the feet and all likely. 739 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 4: I know he did some wrestling against Hack Parass, so 740 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 4: maybe he might bring that back, But I don't know. 741 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: I kind of feel like he's gonna want to slug 742 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 4: it out. 743 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: So minus two to eighty favorite, I think that's good 744 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: enough for me. Look, let's go to the underdog. 745 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 4: Who do you got, hey, man, this one? I don't 746 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 4: feel like I'm taking that much of a risk on. 747 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: Give me Robby Lawler at plus one ninety over Nico Price. Now, granted, 748 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 4: Nico Price is the favorite with good reason. Robbie Lawler 749 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 4: at this is his literal retirement fight. 750 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: It's hard to pick on. I probably have made a 751 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: mistake picking a guy who was actually on. 752 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 4: Like, when was the last time you saw a UFC 753 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 4: retirement fight and you're like, wow, man, I feel so 754 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 4: good about that, Like watching Frankie Edgar get stretched by 755 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: Gutierrez or whatever, pick whichever one you've seen. Oh, you 756 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: know what, it wasn't a retirement fight but his but 757 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 4: Nate diez Is exit fight that went well against Tony ferguson. 758 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: Is exit fight. 759 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 3: I thought you were seeing up Nick da As his 760 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 3: exit fight come back against law. 761 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was terrible too. So I'm probably making a 762 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: huge mistake. But I don't know. BC. Does it really 763 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: feel like? 764 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 3: He does seem he's in great shape, always his spirit, 765 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: he seems the happiest thing. 766 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: You know, what does that mean for a warrior like that? 767 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 2: Will that infuse him? 768 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 6: You know? 769 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 3: The crowd is going to give him that like huge 770 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 3: veteran pop, like the old school warrior. We love you, 771 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 3: thank you for your contributions, all rightfully. 772 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 2: So Robbie doesn't tend to normally need that or get 773 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: changed by that. I wonder if that's like a needle, 774 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: if that's like a ten or so right. 775 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 4: Here, also not a five round fight, three round fight. 776 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 4: He can step on the gas the whole way. You know, 777 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 4: we know you used to take some off. Really not 778 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: in play here. Nico Price is gonna leave openings. 779 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: We do know that. But can guys got him. 780 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: Apart though Nico stand in there, go toe to toe 781 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 3: Manda Man and pick him apart. 782 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 4: The thing is, Nico plays the Russian roulette game like 783 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 4: fifty percent of the time where he fights that way, 784 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: he's gonna win. The other fifty percent he's gonna lose. 785 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 4: So I actually see it as fifty to fifty. And 786 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 4: for that reason, give me Robby Lawler. 787 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: It would feel good to. 788 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: Get a Robbie Lawler win and then you get the 789 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 3: win on okay bet At the same time, I see 790 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 3: what you're doing. 791 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 2: It's rightling down on that look. 792 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with my underdog and I'm gonna go 793 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: back to that comin event that bandamweight title, the unofficial 794 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: trilogy between these two, and what we have to ask ourselves, 795 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: as you laid out there, how much has Brandon Moreno 796 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: changed since they're twenty eighteen rematch? 797 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: But how much has Pantosia changed? 798 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: Riding this inspired three fight win streak, two straight finishes 799 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: over high to level guys in the division like Perez 800 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 3: in like raw Dog, but Luke Thomas. People forget who 801 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: Pantasia is and how he got here and who he beat. 802 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: It wasn't just Moreno and tough by submission. It wasn't 803 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: just Moreno by wide decision. In the rematch, Luke, he 804 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: also be burned and shot and gave him his last loss, 805 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 3: And people forget that about Pantosia like at like it's 806 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 3: like right right after the Travis Brown fight. 807 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if you if you remember that, I 808 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 2: know what you're doing, Okay. 809 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes when you've got somebody's number, it just matters. I 810 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: don't lean on that as ultimately the reason why this 811 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: is going to happen. We look at the Poeton is 812 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: the rivalry, right, things can change. A lot has changed 813 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: for these two. But what hasn't changed for this division 814 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 3: is the parody on top and even though Marinos survived 815 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: the epic four fight War trilogy trapped Quadrupleleogy with Figuredo, 816 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: there's still parody. He still can be had. Luke, Pantosia 817 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 3: is confident, he's a finish year. He's coming after it. 818 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 3: There's no Brazilian champions at the moment. All this week 819 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: is about Mexico. I mean, Dana was really pumping up 820 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 3: Mexico's future when when John Morgan asked him that question 821 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: at the press conference about that not just the colorful 822 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 3: new belts that Dana is partnering with a designer in 823 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 3: Mexico for for the Mexican Champions, but it's the PI 824 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: in Mexico, Luke, It's all about like they're not even 825 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: selling this story and as a promotion that Pantosa has 826 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: this thing over him right right, and it's a big 827 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 3: story is that Moreno and Ya Year are here for 828 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: Mexican glory. 829 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 1: And by the way, I get behind that story. 830 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 3: I like that they're coming back with grass Stow chev 831 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: Chenko two for free in the city Mexican Independence Day 832 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 3: in September. But Pantosha is coming in underdog the weight 833 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 3: of Brazil on his shoulders. Dude, give me him. 834 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: At plus one seventy five to do it one more time. 835 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: I like that bet from you. I like that bet 836 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: from you. 837 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 4: The thing is, I can't both pick Moreno as my 838 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 4: favorite and Pantoja as my underdog. 839 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: But I did. 840 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 4: I did play with that idea a little bit, the 841 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 4: Pantoja part with the underdog, because he's I mean, the 842 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 4: guy has beaten them twice and like thoroughly. 843 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: You know, there's has ever even closed and Machev too, right, 844 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: there is that one. 845 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I gotta say I did see if you 846 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 4: haven't seen this, there's a clip going around, I think 847 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 4: from Fighter and the Kid. 848 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: There's two clips, two separate shows. 849 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: Oh that's right, that's why the second one is new. 850 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 4: But the first one was from fightering the Kid. And 851 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: I think Brendan had mistakenly thought that Pintojia had beaten Makachev. 852 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 3: No, that's well, I I keep mistakingly thinking that Gastolone 853 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: was competitive against Whittaker apparently, so I'll have to watch 854 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 3: that and get back to you just the same. 855 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: All right, Luke, what do you got for over under 856 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 2: Who's going the distance? 857 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: Or not well, because my other picks usually do poorly. 858 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 4: I have to stand back at this end of things. 859 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 4: So I'm going to say in the over under, give 860 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: me the under. In Nickel versus Woodburn, I just win 861 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 4: or lose, right, I mean, Bo Nicol will almost certainly win. 862 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: There's a chance, obviously, but he's. 863 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: Going to be the biggest favorite in UFC. 864 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: History, the freaking underhair. 865 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: Please. 866 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 4: Oh, I'm going to take the underhair because he's either 867 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: gonna demolish the guy or he'll get slept out of nowhere, 868 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: and either way it ain't gonna go the distance. 869 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: I'll take that one. 870 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 2: Is you like the confidence of Woodward in the word. 871 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 4: Yes, wood Wooden Bernstein, Yes, when they when they got 872 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 4: I got the information from deep Broo. 873 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: What's his name, Lukey Woodburn Woodburn. 874 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 3: Apologies for my lack of preparation that we just met 875 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 3: this guy yesterday, But I liked his confidence. I like 876 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 3: the d you know, he was a flamboyantly dressed, but 877 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 3: he also came in there like not overwhelmed by the moment, 878 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 3: not talking too much trash, but letting bo no, I'm 879 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 3: coming here to take this listen. 880 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: He probably won't win, but Mma is crazy as shit. Yes, 881 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: so that let's see. 882 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: All right, look my over under, I'm gonna stay on 883 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: this UFC card, and I'm gonna go Nico Price Robbie Lawler. 884 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: You're picking Lawler to win. I'm picking them both to 885 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: go the distance in a fun ass action fight. 886 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: Who's gonna win. 887 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 3: Look, I'm gonna lean toward Price in this regard just 888 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 3: I think you know, being the fresher fighter, even with 889 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 3: the fanfare of Lawler walking away. 890 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 2: Either way, Robbie's gonna show out. He's gonna bang of 891 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 2: what's left. It's gonna go the distance. It's gonna be 892 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 2: a fun fight. 893 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: That's actually not a bad bet at all. 894 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if you notice I'm moving up in 895 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: the standings. 896 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm making her really not though you're really not. 897 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 4: You're just sort of like statically shitty, and I'm statically 898 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 4: as slightly less shitty but also shitty. 899 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: Ko or sub Luke, what do you got. 900 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: This one again? 901 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna stand bag this one, although I suppose this 902 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 4: one is not nearly as much of a standbag, but 903 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 4: still give me Jalen Turner versus Dan Hooker ending in Ko, 904 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 4: I think that's the way, it's probably gonna go. 905 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that that one could go to a decision. 906 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 4: Again, if Dan decides to wrestle and has a fair 907 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 4: amount of success, that is obviously a different ballgame. But 908 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 4: I have a feeling that they're both going to slug 909 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 4: it out on the feet, And for that reason doesn't 910 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 4: matter really who wins for this particular bet, because I 911 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 4: just think it's going to end via strikes. 912 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, my Ko or sub will stay on 913 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 3: that preliminary featured area. Jack Della Mattelena will not be 914 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 3: fighting Sean Brady because of the yelbow issues. 915 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: Josiah Harrell in last minute Luke. 916 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: He is seven and oh with seven stoppages, just made 917 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 3: his LFA debut last time out, but uphill climb against 918 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 3: a riser like mister Dobbelina here. I'm gonna take Ko 919 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 3: in that matchup, and I think you know who I'm picking. 920 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 4: Uh yeah, You're gonna JACKO. You're gonna pick Jack Della Luke. 921 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 3: A matchup we didn't touch in this category, but still 922 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 3: a big one that has a lot of people talking 923 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: for various reasons is that middleweight tilt Robert Whitaker against 924 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 3: drikis dupless and the idea that we're kind of looking 925 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: at a most likely in number one contenders fight, as 926 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 3: Dana has said, I say most likely because strung Sean 927 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 3: Strickland looking so good last week could could change this. 928 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 4: Discussion now going on Rogan like, I mean, you know, 929 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 4: whatever else you want to say about what he said, 930 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 4: like that, would you think about what he said? I mean, 931 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 4: if you were wondering why he had a disturbed worldview, 932 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 4: you can see where it came from. Like his upbringing 933 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 4: was not the way a child is supposed to be 934 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 4: brought up in this world. 935 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: Actually, I have genuine sympathy for that. 936 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 3: Yes, it was greatly because I'm not going to watch 937 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 3: the whole thing strictly doesn't do it for me, but 938 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 3: it made sense some of the things I've heard right. 939 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 4: And I saw people like laughing about it and thinking 940 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 4: it was like super cool, yo, Like some of the 941 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 4: stuff he was saying is not a fucking thing. 942 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: On earth cool about that? 943 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 4: It's disturbing, actually, And the fact that he has made 944 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 4: as much of a success of himself as he has, 945 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 4: if you think about it, is I would argue, somewhat miraculous, 946 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 4: to be quite honest with you, because people of that 947 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 4: kind of upbringing, you know, more often than not you'll 948 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 4: find them in jail or doing something. 949 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 3: What do you think about him? Duncan on Ali and 950 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 3: being like, I know this is going to cause me trouble. 951 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: So I read I read the clip. 952 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 4: I did not I read the transcription of that part. 953 00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: I have not seen the clip. I don't want exceptly 954 00:37:59,120 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: understand what his spergum. 955 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 3: And his argument is that he was sparring Vittori in 956 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: the extreme couture gym, preparing Vittori, so going out of 957 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 3: his way to help Vittori, and Ali was lingering and 958 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: watching watch the sparring session. I think, based on the 959 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: way Sean was laying it out, I'm assuming not that 960 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: he was allowing Vittoria to have his moments, but the 961 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 3: camp is about setting up Vitoria right right. And I 962 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: think Ali watched Strickland SPA and that didn't think he 963 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 3: was all that good. And then and then suddenly got 964 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 3: Strickland gets an offer from a boost malgamet off side, 965 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 3: which is Ali, and so Strickland's reaction is just basically, well, 966 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 3: he talked bad. 967 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 2: About him, but then he said, like managers shouldn't be 968 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: in the gym. That's shady what he did. 969 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 3: That's that's a dirtbag move to watch my sparring and 970 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 3: then use that as you know, knowledge to go grab 971 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 3: his guy and match him up. Now, Strickland got the 972 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 3: last laugh with the dominant win. But is there any 973 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: is there is strickling onto something in that? 974 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm less, I less have an issue with managers in 975 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: the gym. I really don't. I mean, that's hard to enforce, Like, 976 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: how do you even do that? 977 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 4: Like if you manage these guys, you're allowed show up 978 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 4: to the gym, Like why especially if you have like 979 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 4: two or three clients all in the same band. 980 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: Girlfriends now from the gym, Yeah, exactly, you know it's 981 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: a banded civility. Yeah, there we go. 982 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 4: But no, if I'm being serious, that to me is 983 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 4: less the issue. The issue is to me assume it. 984 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 4: Let's assume for what for a moment, what Sean Strickland 985 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 4: is saying is one true. If that is the case, 986 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 4: then the issue to me is that a manager can 987 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 4: just go to matchmakers and have that kind of direct influence. 988 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 4: That to me is the bigger issue, Like the UFC 989 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 4: should be making matches, they obviously have to work to 990 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 4: some degree in concert with the matchmakers. But if you're 991 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 4: a manager and you have, again according to Sean Strickland's worldview, 992 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 4: the capacity to just basically call your shots like that, like, hey, 993 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 4: let's match up my guy against this guy, even when 994 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 4: they're unranked, that is the issue. It's the managerial undue 995 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 4: influence over matchmaking, less that they're actually in the facility 996 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 4: on occasion. 997 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: Interesting. 998 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 2: It's interesting stuff, Luke. It's kind of a gray area there. 999 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 3: But the fight that offers no gray area is the 1000 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 3: one we're talking about. The odds aren't explosively in the 1001 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: direction of Whitaker. 1002 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: Do we have those in front of a Yes, I 1003 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: do as a matter of fact, just the general No, 1004 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: they are. 1005 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 2: What's the latest? 1006 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 4: So he's currently as we speak right now, According to 1007 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 4: our friends at Caesars, Brian Campbell, he is Whittaker a 1008 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 4: minus three eighty favorite. Ricus duplas ce plus three hundred. 1009 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,759 Speaker 4: I'm looking across the board here you can find action 1010 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 4: on Whittaker at around minus four hundred. 1011 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 3: Okay, now, obviously that's a lot for a number one 1012 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 3: co tener fight. He's a four to one favorite. I 1013 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 3: guess I just meant it wasn't the type of like 1014 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 3: embarrassing minus seven hundred type. 1015 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, But that's been the media feeling. 1016 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:27,919 Speaker 1: Luke. 1017 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 3: I like that Robert Whittaker at the press conference is 1018 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: not taken and in every media stop this week, not 1019 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 3: taking the bait on like I'm supposed to destroy this guy. 1020 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 3: He's giving him the respect he expects everything. We've got 1021 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 3: some sound we're gonna throw to you in a second. 1022 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 3: But are you expecting a competitive fight here? Even if 1023 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,840 Speaker 3: the finish is one side? 1024 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1025 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: Like whatever I mean, even if Whitaker wins by decision, 1026 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 3: are you expecting DDP to show out? Even if he's 1027 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 3: heading into a situation where all think defeat is coming 1028 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 3: his way. 1029 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,399 Speaker 2: It's not like he's gonna get his ass kicked, right? 1030 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: Or is that also? 1031 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 4: I definitely expect to give Robert Whittaker trouble in two 1032 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 4: different ways. One to make him hesitant because he is 1033 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 4: so unpredictable what might come. I think if you're Robert Whittaker, 1034 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 4: yes it's a three round fight, but you do need 1035 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 4: to take your time a little bit with this guy. 1036 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,439 Speaker 4: And because he's gonna come out like a fucking bad 1037 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 4: out of hell, and so I think that might give 1038 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 4: I would say Duplesses best chance to win around will 1039 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 4: come in the first round, Like he really has to 1040 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 4: bag that one because he's not going to win it 1041 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 4: by the third. That's when Whitaker that skill difference is 1042 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 4: really going to show up. So if you're Whittaker, you 1043 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 4: cannot make a mistake early. I think that will slow 1044 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,479 Speaker 4: him down. The other one is BC. He is dude, 1045 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 4: he is a big, athletic, strong middleweight. If he lands 1046 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 4: on you, it's going to cause problems. I do think 1047 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 4: there's a chance, like you know, Cannoneer was able to 1048 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 4: do it. I think Cannon here has shown a more 1049 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 4: skill in my mind. But again, the physicality, the unpredictablity. 1050 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 4: If something lands like that, I think it could cause 1051 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 4: Whittaker trouble. But BC, again, I'm gonna say it over 1052 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 4: and over, Skills win fights. Skills win fights, and it 1053 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 4: is very clear that Robert Whittaker is the vastly more 1054 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 4: skilled guy. 1055 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 3: And when skills don't win fights, it's when an intangible 1056 00:41:58,560 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 3: can be broken. 1057 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 2: Robert Whitdick went ten rounds. 1058 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 3: With you, l I know he took like two years 1059 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 3: of his career off of that, after that from the residuals. 1060 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: But you get the point. 1061 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 3: Robert Whittaker caught up with CBS Sports his own Shaquille Missouri, 1062 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 3: a friend of the program here here at MK. Here 1063 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 3: is Rob's thoughts about exactly what he's facing here in DDP. 1064 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 7: They underestimate just. 1065 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 4: Such a well, well rounded skill set and he's got 1066 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 4: no quit in him. 1067 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot of times in his. 1068 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 8: Fights where he's faced quite serious adversity where he looks. 1069 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: A moment from defeat and then comes back to win it. 1070 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: And that's dangerous, mate. 1071 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,280 Speaker 2: It's interesting. 1072 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 3: We also have Shack on his Shack MMA channel catching 1073 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,959 Speaker 3: up with Dricis dupless c himself to get the other 1074 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 3: side of this matchup and maybe how he's going to 1075 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 3: pull this big upset against the Bobby knuckle guy. Though 1076 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 3: what was his name? The Reaper, the damn Reaper. Let's 1077 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 3: hear it. 1078 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,520 Speaker 5: He's never bought into his own heart, and that's why 1079 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 5: he is such an incredible athlete. He is a guy 1080 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 5: that you know, show me one fight where Robert Whittaker 1081 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 5: came into the ring unprepared. We looked like he didn't 1082 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 5: have a great camp. Even if he had an injury 1083 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 5: where he looked unfit, where it didn't look strong, it 1084 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 5: didn't look in shape. No, that's not the way he operates. 1085 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 5: He's going to be a guy that every single time 1086 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 5: you fight, and you know you're going to fight a 1087 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 5: guy that prepared for this fight like it's the last 1088 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 5: fight that he'll ever fight. And that's that's why I 1089 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 5: have so much respect for it. Again, not because of 1090 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 5: what he's achieved, but purely because of the consistency of 1091 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 5: all these years knowing and seeing the improvements and seeing 1092 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 5: how party works. He's an inspiration to so many people. Now. 1093 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 3: Look, I did pop from the bicteps of Kevin Lee 1094 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 3: in my interview with him last week, and we saw 1095 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 3: what happened the bicteps of DDP there with the veins 1096 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 3: and striations was impressive. 1097 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: Vascularity. 1098 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,359 Speaker 3: Vascularity of that man. He's not wrong what he says 1099 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 3: about him. But look, there's obviously a stigma coming a 1100 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 3: lot from the media guys like us that Hey, Ddp's 1101 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 3: good but it's not quite yet. Wins over that version 1102 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,879 Speaker 3: of Brunson, in that version going to tell are good, 1103 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 3: but this might be too much, too soon is it. 1104 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 3: The cardio thing is all that DVP addresses some of 1105 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 3: those concerns here with Shaq. 1106 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 5: Everybody's saying work on your cardio does not know what 1107 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 5: the hell they are talking about when they are talking 1108 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,760 Speaker 5: to me. I am a workhorse. I am the hardest 1109 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 5: working in the room every single time, or at least 1110 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,799 Speaker 5: I go out to try and be. I go out 1111 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 5: there and I compete with every single person that GM 1112 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 5: and myself of yesterday, every single time I stepped in there. 1113 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 5: So it's not a matter of working hard. I know 1114 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 5: that's not the problem, and it's about being getting the 1115 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 5: right people around you with the right knowledge and making 1116 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 5: sure that the. 1117 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 8: Right energy systems fire at the right time, making sure 1118 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,439 Speaker 8: the right muscles fire, making sure the right like I said, 1119 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 8: energy systems are firing at the right time, so that 1120 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 8: I train in a way that compliments my five sione. 1121 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 3: Thank you to Shack Masure. You can watch those in 1122 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 3: full on the Shack MMA channel. Luke in regards to 1123 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,760 Speaker 3: his cardio. You know that mad man with a law degree, 1124 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 3: Jed Meshu from m. 1125 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 1: Fighting, Yeah, you bring him up constantly. 1126 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 7: This guy. 1127 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: I can't figure this guy out. He's got wild takes 1128 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 2: aggressive takes. He's going with DDP like like an a 1129 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 2: hole here. But one of his hooks, as he's saying, 1130 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,640 Speaker 2: is he got his nose finally repaired and now he 1131 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 2: can breathe for the first time. You're a man, deep 1132 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 2: rooted nasal issues that don't issue last night, that don't 1133 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 2: necessarily not caused by nose beers. Right by nose nose beers. 1134 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 2: That's what they used to call candy in my in my. 1135 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,879 Speaker 1: I was never a big coke guy. 1136 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 3: Do you think that could lead to a change, is 1137 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,239 Speaker 3: what DDP is saying. Anyone who's question his cardio as 1138 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 3: an asshole, Well, what if he did get the nose job, 1139 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 3: What if it's full on best case scenario of DDP, 1140 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 3: It's still. 1141 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: Not going to be enough. 1142 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 1: Fluke. 1143 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 2: It's Robert Whinneker we're talking about. 1144 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 4: I can't believe he picked a dupless That's interesting. I'm 1145 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 4: actually just kind of surprised to hear that. 1146 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 1: I called him the kid rock of MMA. Jed Meshew. 1147 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: Who is the who is the little man? He had? 1148 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 2: Little little uh Josie? 1149 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: Is that who it was? Is that who it was? He? 1150 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: What was his issue? Is he a little person? 1151 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little man. Yeah, he had some 1152 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 2: health issues, but Joe Ci had some passion on the mic. 1153 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 1: You think they buried him in a shoebox. 1154 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,479 Speaker 3: Goy see, you know what, I thought we were gonna 1155 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 3: get hate mail from that Kobe joke of the helicopter, 1156 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,960 Speaker 3: and you know, you're like, let's keep going down that 1157 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 3: good luke To close on UFC two ninety here, you know, 1158 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 3: we talked about Yes Me and horror Gate coming in. 1159 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 3: We talked about some of the other matchup. Is there 1160 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 3: any storyline we're not hitting. 1161 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: Poor a guy? Storylines were not hitting. 1162 00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a pretty bad early prelimpus card, 1163 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: do you agree? 1164 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:29,799 Speaker 7: Right? 1165 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not. Again there's a the Alonzo minifild Jimmy 1166 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: Crile again, Oh rematch, rematch. 1167 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 4: Well, what's sort of weird about this card is when 1168 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 4: you look at it, it's like there's a gazillion Aussis and 1169 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,240 Speaker 4: like kiwis. 1170 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 2: I guess mostly that's why I said when anyone said, hey, BC, 1171 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: why are you complaining about this card not being an 1172 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 2: A plus plus? All the hardcores love it, all the 1173 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 2: Austie fans love. 1174 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they love it huge, and I get that completely. 1175 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 4: It just feels like this card should be in Adelaide, 1176 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 4: it should be in Perth, it should be in Sydney, whatever, 1177 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 4: So Adelaide bertle Be there should be Adelaide birtle Be here. 1178 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: That should be turning in some thirty twenty six as DVP. 1179 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: Don't think she won't. 1180 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like it's again, there's 1181 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 4: really nothing wrong with the card. 1182 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: It's just not all the way right, I think, is 1183 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: the way I would say it. 1184 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 2: All right, all right, we will enjoy it just the same. 1185 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 3: A reminder, I'll be on CBS Sports HQ immediately after 1186 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 3: Saturday night's card, and then or maybe simultaneously, Luke Thomas 1187 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 3: will be pressing play on our Morning Combat Instant Analysis 1188 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 3: YouTube dot com slash Morning Coming. 1189 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 1: I might join you there, Luke, right like I intend 1190 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: for you. Can you let me in the door though 1191 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: after the HQ hit, I'll just give you an extra key. 1192 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 1: You could have a key in my room. 1193 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 2: Oh god, that's weird, all right, Luke, That is okay. Bet. 1194 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 3: We'll get now into topic one to set the stage 1195 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 3: for the weekend, and we do have a very interesting 1196 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 3: boxing tilt this weekend. A triple Header nine thirty pm 1197 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 3: in the East Coast Saturday night only on Showtime, Rising 1198 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 3: unbeaten welterweight breakout star Jaron Boots, Ennis thirty and Oh 1199 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 3: twenty seven KOs It's gonna I don't want to call 1200 00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 3: it a stay busy, but I think the whole division 1201 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 3: at large is staying busy waiting for the fallout of 1202 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 3: course of all things. 1203 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 2: Spence Crawford July twenty ninth. 1204 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 3: But Luke, his opponent this weekend Boardwalk Hall the Theater 1205 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 3: there in Atlantic City is a guy who's kind of 1206 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 3: come out of nowhere. Royman, via the Venezuelan slugger, made 1207 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 3: his US debut last year on Showbox. I called that 1208 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 3: fight delivered a big upset to Unbeate in Janelson Bocachica, 1209 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 3: and then he comes back on the January pay per 1210 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 3: view card. Was that the Hector Garcia take it, and 1211 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 3: a big upset against Rashidi Ellis. He was outgunned early 1212 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 3: by the speed disadvantage against speedy Rashidi, but Royman made adjustments, 1213 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 3: started walking him down and really had a spirited finish. 1214 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 2: Here, Luke, let's talk about this main event. 1215 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 3: It is in some ways about like Boots taking that 1216 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 3: next step and finally drawing in one of these elites, 1217 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 3: whether it's thurman Ugast, the winner of Spence Crawford. 1218 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 2: But how much of a challenge is via for him? 1219 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,640 Speaker 4: Villa is not a technical challenge for him. That's really 1220 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 4: not what this comes down to. Jeron Ennis is a 1221 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 4: guy I've been really high on his last fight. He 1222 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 4: did performerly well if you look at the scores, but 1223 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 4: he he underperformed in the sense that I think people 1224 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 4: had an expectation he would put that guy away pretty quickly, 1225 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 4: and he didn't. It went the full distance. He was 1226 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 4: much better, but you get the idea. But the point 1227 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,600 Speaker 4: I wanted to make here was from a technical perspective, 1228 00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 4: both offensively and defensively, Jeron Ennis is just infinitely slicker 1229 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 4: than a woman video Roman Villa is a come forward 1230 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 4: kind of brawler. Basically has a high guard, which means, 1231 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 4: if you've got two hands up here, you're blocking a 1232 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 4: lot you have to catch before you can shoot, right, 1233 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 4: so he ends up just kind of having to. He's 1234 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 4: not really great at like ring a generalship either. He 1235 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 4: just marches in marches and marches and then tries to 1236 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 4: find stuff, and then eventually he does if you slow. 1237 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 4: But the problem is again on the offensive end, a 1238 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,240 Speaker 4: guy like Da should eat this, a guy like this alive, 1239 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:44,760 Speaker 4: he does. 1240 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 1: Not have sophisticated defense. 1241 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 4: And again on the defensive side himself, Ennis is a 1242 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 4: handful as well. 1243 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 1: He should win this one very easily. 1244 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,319 Speaker 3: Should though let's give Via credit coming on late. I 1245 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 3: think that was almost a setup fight. I mean, it 1246 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 3: was a great fight on paper him against Rashidia Yellis, 1247 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 3: but Rashidi was calling out Boots. The idea was maybe Rashidi, 1248 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 3: who finally put his career back on track, was going 1249 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 3: to take that step. But running Via showed big time stamina. 1250 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 3: He went twelve rounds for only the second time in 1251 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 3: that Rashidi Yellis fight, and he was the better fight 1252 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 3: in the second half, better fighter in the second half. 1253 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 3: So you do have to hold that there a guy 1254 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 3: with power who you know has the chance to be 1255 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 3: there at the end. If there's an implosive side, if 1256 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,520 Speaker 3: there's anything that the critics can reach for for Boots, 1257 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 3: maybe that's it. But it would need Via cutting off 1258 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:25,439 Speaker 3: the ring, it would need him going to the body, 1259 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,240 Speaker 3: would need him early on establishing some type of threat 1260 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 3: that could pay off later you referenced Luke though the 1261 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 3: last time out in January on the same card that 1262 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 3: Via beat Rashidi Eellis, we saw Boots against Karen Chukudsen. 1263 00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 2: To be fair, that was you know, it was the secondary. 1264 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 3: It was an IBF interim title at stake, so it's 1265 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,360 Speaker 3: sort of we got the four belts and Spencing Crawford, 1266 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 3: everybody else lining up trying to get in position. Look, 1267 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,799 Speaker 3: he did win one twenty to one, a wait on 1268 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 3: all three score cards, but the critics rightfully so said, look, 1269 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 3: he didn't put them away. The guy was circling in 1270 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,360 Speaker 3: the other direction the whole fight. But that's a challenge 1271 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 3: for a young fighter to do something. I caught up 1272 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 3: with Boots and us in the build up to this fight, 1273 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 3: and here's his message to all the haters who won't 1274 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,279 Speaker 3: stop talking about what he didn't do against chukas in. 1275 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 9: I really don't care what nobody think. Honestly, I don't. 1276 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 9: I mean with me. It's first they were saying he 1277 00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 9: can't go past six rounds. Then they were saying, we 1278 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,359 Speaker 9: don't know if he got ten. Uh, Like they don't, 1279 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 9: they don't know what they what they want out of me, 1280 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 9: Like it don't matter who I fight. 1281 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 1: I can fight brick wall. I would beat a brick wall. 1282 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 9: Didn't he's supposed to do that. So with me, I 1283 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 9: just I don't care what nobody say. 1284 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: I just be myself. 1285 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 9: And uh and I you say, I just had a 1286 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 9: twelve round shutout decision, you know, with a guy that 1287 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 9: didn't want to engage. And with this guy, I know 1288 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 9: Romano Villa gonna be right there for me. And that's 1289 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 9: that's perfect, you know. And uh, we're gonna have some 1290 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,719 Speaker 9: fun on until I you know, beg to make a statements. 1291 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 2: I like Boots's demeanor by the way. He's humble. He 1292 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,320 Speaker 2: understands the situation. 1293 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 3: He went on to say when talking about things like 1294 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,440 Speaker 3: guys ducking him and stuff, that it's it's not about 1295 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 3: being scared, it's about business. Look, I think he always 1296 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 3: recognized that he's a high risk guy, right being so 1297 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 3: young and not yet full broken out. But he does 1298 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 3: show you that kind of talent of which he could 1299 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 3: be a I mean, look, we're talking about like the 1300 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 3: future faces of the sport Tofronte's kind of in transition 1301 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 3: to kind of becoming one of the faces, or maybe 1302 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 3: already there, but we're talking about those guys that are 1303 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 3: a little bit younger, the Shaker Stevensons, the Devin Haney's 1304 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,080 Speaker 3: all that. I mean, Boots is right there in that 1305 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 3: debate about three to five years from now, who's going 1306 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 3: to be the number one face of this sport? And 1307 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 3: you know, are potentially the pound for pound king. It's 1308 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 3: like Boots, It's like Hani, It's like Shakur, It's like 1309 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 3: maybe Stephen Fulton, who's got a big fight with a 1310 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 3: new way coming up. Like these are the guys like 1311 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 3: these are the future, Luke, But will that future lead 1312 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 3: to Boots fighting the winner of Spence Crawford, Like a 1313 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 3: lot of people want, here are his thoughts on the 1314 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 3: future of the Walter White Division. 1315 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 9: Uh when I when I'd be Luema Villa, you know, 1316 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 9: I feel like division, like landscape is like everything falling 1317 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:54,080 Speaker 9: into police. I feel like if Smithson but don't you 1318 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 9: know the rematch clause you still got you know, uh 1319 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,359 Speaker 9: danone and or Tea. I feel like everybody, I feel 1320 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 9: like everything like finally coming together, and I feel like 1321 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 9: everybody's gonna be able to fight each other real soon, 1322 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,080 Speaker 9: you know, just hopefully, you know, they don't do the 1323 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 9: rematch close and everybody be able to fight each other, 1324 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 9: or I'll be able to fight the winner. You know 1325 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 9: of Early and Spence. I mean, but look. 1326 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. You've been a big Boots guy. 1327 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 3: I've been a Boots guy. I don't think you can 1328 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,359 Speaker 3: hold too much against him. For that chick kids and fight, 1329 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 3: he did everything. Yeah, I mean he dominated the fight, 1330 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,960 Speaker 3: Spencing Crawford. What would you give the percentage that they 1331 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 3: may end up get rematching considering both sides have it, 1332 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 3: and this is gonna be a huge fight, both sides 1333 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 3: have the option of clicking in. 1334 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 2: It's it's high right. 1335 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 4: One hundred per But mark me down now, I don't 1336 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 4: see if a mutually enforceable rematch clause. 1337 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna fight two times, and I want to point 1338 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: out one more time. 1339 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 4: I said that on the Showtime Boxing podcast with Karen 1340 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 4: Malvaney and Eric rask him. Mark me down as one 1341 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 4: of the guys who said, we get two of these 1342 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 4: motherfuckers right here. 1343 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: Yes, this guy, this fight. 1344 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 2: I mean, there's a dual rematch clause. 1345 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 1: This was months ago. This was months ago. There was 1346 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,319 Speaker 1: no news about a rematch clause. Your guy just predicted it. 1347 00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 2: Big money fight. I'd love to do it a gain. 1348 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,520 Speaker 3: So in that case, let's say Boots beats Via, he's 1349 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 3: got to go do it in Lang City Saturday night. 1350 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 3: We're all going to be there watching Luke and I 1351 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 3: will be calling the prelims beginning at seven thirty pm 1352 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 3: Eastern on the Showtime YouTube channel. 1353 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 2: If what should be next for him? 1354 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 3: If it can't and by the way, he did tell 1355 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 3: me Boots that if Spence Crawford, if either of them 1356 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 3: go to fifty four, he'll follow him up there and 1357 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:19,279 Speaker 3: still want to fight then, but he's got to handle 1358 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 3: his business first. At age twenty six here at the 1359 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 3: walsaweight division, is. 1360 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 2: It Keith Thurman? 1361 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:24,719 Speaker 1: The right fight? Next gotta be? 1362 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,400 Speaker 4: Now what I did see some talk about Keith Thurman 1363 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 4: potentially fighting. 1364 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 1: You go to Denny's ooh gos, So maybe the it's maybe. 1365 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 4: I won't say it's a tournament because that's not quite right, 1366 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 4: but what I would say is maybe the winner of 1367 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:41,400 Speaker 4: this weekend's Showtime Chip Ship boxing card between Boots and Old. 1368 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 4: By the way, not even you think I mean I 1369 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 4: butt your names, I do, but your names I guilty 1370 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 4: is charged. 1371 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,800 Speaker 1: Guilty is charged. But Boots end is not even trying. 1372 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 4: He's like Roman Villa, like it looks like it looks 1373 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 4: quite but okay, you didn't dry all right? Either way, 1374 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,840 Speaker 4: the winner of that probably or could fight Boots against 1375 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,359 Speaker 4: the winner of HUGO. 1376 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 1377 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,680 Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this, I don't know if if well, dude, 1378 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,680 Speaker 4: if if Boots loses, that makes it kind of interesting. 1379 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 4: But assuming Boots wins, yes, I think he probably gets 1380 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 4: the winner of UGAS and Thurman probably that well. 1381 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 2: Boots said that he loves this matchup because he knows 1382 00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 2: VIA's unlike Chuckens, and VIA's coming after him. 1383 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 3: That is one hundred percent try. This could lead to 1384 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 3: explosive spectacular Boots sentence arriving Saturday night in Atlantic City. 1385 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 3: Final reminder, get going early seven pm Eastern on the 1386 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:30,040 Speaker 3: Showtime YouTube channel. 1387 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,040 Speaker 2: It's Luke Thomas, It's Brian Campbell, it's Stephen Jackson ringside 1388 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 2: in Atlantic City calling the action. 1389 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,200 Speaker 1: By the way, also, I didn't know this. 1390 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 4: I think you're probably different because you've been covering boxing 1391 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 4: for so much longer. I've never seen a boxing fight 1392 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 4: in Atlantic City ever. 1393 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: Wow. 1394 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 4: I have seen a bellatur fight, and I saw a 1395 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 4: rampage fight. Joey Beltran when he came over from UFC 1396 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 4: before he went back to UFC illegally and then back 1397 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,279 Speaker 4: to Bellator, but neither here nor there. 1398 00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: So this is a bit of a fir for me. 1399 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm actually kind of excited. 1400 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 3: Did you see that Joey Beltran and Britton Heart broke up? 1401 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 3: But before they did, they were on that weird internet 1402 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 3: reality show that's fake where the where the bail bondsman 1403 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,440 Speaker 3: comes over and tries to like they put Joey in coffs, 1404 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 3: and then Joey like argues and BRIT's going crazy, and 1405 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 3: then Joey's like, how about we just wrestled to find 1406 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,400 Speaker 3: out if I get arrested or not? 1407 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 2: And they have like this scrap on the floor and 1408 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 2: it's all stage and. 1409 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,919 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. But weren't they married? They were? 1410 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,239 Speaker 4: I think I think if you're married, they don't call 1411 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 4: it breaking up anymore. This is straight up divorce. 1412 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 2: So it's a triple header on Showtime. 1413 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 3: And unfortunately, Luke, we were also waiting, anticipating and hoping 1414 00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 3: Saturday Night on his own the Cardinals still go on 1415 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 3: in San Antonio, but we're not getting a must see 1416 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 3: welterweight fight equal to Boots Via from the standpoint of 1417 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 3: what is next after Crawford Spence and that was unbeaten 1418 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:52,240 Speaker 3: secondary WBA welterweight title holder. I'm Montastaniosis, my Lithuanian brethren. 1419 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 3: You may remember he had that big win over radjab 1420 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 3: but tajev on the Spence versus UGA's pay per view 1421 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 3: undercard Luke Thomas. He was supposed to fly unbeaten Virgil 1422 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 3: Ortiz Junior, who is the Mexican American from the promoted 1423 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,480 Speaker 3: by Golden Boy nineteen and zero with nineteen KOs. This 1424 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 3: was the perfect matchup of unbeatens that were people like 1425 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,480 Speaker 3: Chris Mannick saying this was going to be your fight 1426 00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 3: of the year. But for the second straight time this 1427 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 3: calendar year, Virgil Artis has pulled out only Luke Thomas. 1428 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 3: It's pretty dangerous this time he passed now while trying 1429 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 3: to cut weight. According to reporting from Dan Rafael of 1430 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 3: Fight Freaks Unite, Virgil Ortiz's father needed to give him 1431 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 3: mouth to mouth. What is the name of the diagnosis here, 1432 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:30,439 Speaker 3: Luke that they. 1433 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 4: He got Rabdo myolysis, which is the CrossFit used to 1434 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 4: have this mascot called Rabdo the clown. 1435 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: Rabdo's what they call it for short. 1436 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 4: You can get it from other things like illicit drug 1437 00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 4: use and blah blah blah, but what it mostly comes 1438 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 4: from when you see athletes get it is insane overtraining. Basically, 1439 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 4: the I'm not going to give you the medical explanation, 1440 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,560 Speaker 4: but the way it was explained to me once. 1441 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: Is rabdo is the body turning on itself from exhaustion. Yeah, 1442 00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: and overuse. 1443 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 4: Like you can only get that if you are training 1444 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 4: in the most fucked up, over advised, inadvisable ways. 1445 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: By the way, time out on this very quickly, very quickly. 1446 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 2: You have to take it down. 1447 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 4: No, we have a second screen up right here. We 1448 00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 4: got the weigh ins. Oh here's going for the UFC 1449 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,160 Speaker 4: two ninety. We're actually watching the Way and Slid Show BC. 1450 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 4: Here's a question, Yes, if anyone misses weight, do you 1451 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 4: want to have a slap fight? 1452 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 1: You and me? 1453 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 3: Why does Volkanovski were in that left e Lopez ri 1454 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,480 Speaker 3: ip uh pandid under left? 1455 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: Does he plan on burning down Andre Rison's new man? 1456 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't have he just he doesn't chase waterfalls. That's 1457 00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:34,480 Speaker 1: just not what he does. 1458 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 2: You know, it looks like he made waight, Luke, he 1459 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 2: looks pretty healthy for thirty four there. 1460 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 4: Long on the fucking scales is Alexander Volkanovski. 1461 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,160 Speaker 2: Short in the height, long in the tooth, Luke, all right, 1462 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 2: I like that. 1463 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, old in the tooth, which is more like what 1464 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: my dog is. 1465 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mixed up a few better. 1466 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 4: Here we go up to just Zippy show shoes, just 1467 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 4: showing up. Let to one of these McDonald's. These guys like, 1468 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,240 Speaker 4: no hat, no shoes. 1469 00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:59,640 Speaker 3: He looks like he just got off the beach with 1470 00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 3: chrome gracie, you know, just slanging right. Just just look 1471 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 3: at just you know, good good tattoo set there, Luke, 1472 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 3: good tattoo set right. 1473 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 2: Uh, it's okay, all right, let's close quickly on this boxing, Luke. 1474 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 3: So Ortiz was hospitalized and if you look further on 1475 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 3: his medical diagnosis, what that could mean. Luke, This is 1476 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 3: life and potentially obviously career threatening from the standpoint of 1477 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 3: the permanent damage that now twice it appears this illness 1478 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 3: has has. I mean, so look, naturally, the knee jerk 1479 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 3: for a guy so young, who like boot Sennis, is 1480 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 3: like waiting for that moment to break out. 1481 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 2: I mentioned he's nineteen and no with nineteen Ko's he's. 1482 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 3: A monster part of Golden Boys future along with Ryan 1483 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 3: Garcia Luke. I wanted to move to one fifty four 1484 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 3: if you can still fight again, but at this point 1485 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 3: we're not even sure, like how he recovers from this, right, I. 1486 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 4: Think he will, but like he has to ask questions 1487 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,439 Speaker 4: like why are you getting rabdo multiple times and having 1488 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 4: to get your father to give you quite literal mouth 1489 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,400 Speaker 4: to mouth resuscitation. 1490 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 1: Dude, this is dangerous. 1491 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Regaz making we right. 1492 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 4: You're right right against makes weight and he's third on 1493 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 4: the scales. So the three of the four in the 1494 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 4: championship fights have made Wait. But getting back to Virgil Ortiz, 1495 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 4: a guy of very considerable talent, a guy who has 1496 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 4: I think, if he can get right, a lot of 1497 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 4: fighting left in him. But BC, if you are in 1498 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 4: a place where they're doing that to you, or you're 1499 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 4: doing that to yourself, you will cut your career short drastically, drastically. 1500 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 2: If Boots Ennis, by the way, beats Villa, I wouldn't 1501 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,760 Speaker 2: hate him by any stretch of the margin against staniosis. 1502 01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,280 Speaker 2: In fact, I thought that fight should have happened earlier. 1503 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 2: This j Okay, yeah, that would be a great fight. 1504 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: To say, that wouldn't be as interesting to me as 1505 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: some of the other ones. 1506 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 3: But yes, it wouldn't be a Stanios you can bang. 1507 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,000 Speaker 3: He comes after it, he gets inside. Brandon Moreno here. 1508 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:39,800 Speaker 1: And the Moreno makes weight. 1509 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 4: So, ladies and gentlemen, all four of fighters and the 1510 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 4: two championship fights have made wait the first four to 1511 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:45,400 Speaker 4: make weight. 1512 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 1: With the championship level fighters motherfuckers. 1513 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 3: Well, Golden Boy bumped up Floyd Schofield versus Haskell Rhodes 1514 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,480 Speaker 3: for that man have had tough break for both Golden 1515 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 3: Boy and the Zone. 1516 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 2: To see that go that way with Virgil Archies pulling out. 1517 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: His Zone is h and people think I hate on 1518 01:00:59,120 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: his ozone. 1519 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 4: I'm still a Diszone own customer, Like I still pay 1520 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,080 Speaker 4: for it, even though Belt was not on it anymore. 1521 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 4: I still I pay for it. Not having the strongest 1522 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 4: twenty twenty threeps it. 1523 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: Let's be fair. 1524 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 2: Huh, don't try to back no. 1525 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 4: No, no, no, I've never I do write it off of 1526 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 4: my taxes, but I've never ever expense it to uh that, 1527 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 4: not to Zone. Maybe the UFC pay per views on it. Okay, okay, 1528 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 4: but I'm serious. They're not having a great year. They're 1529 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 4: not having a great year. 1530 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 3: Quick mention on the and they lost Canelo unfortunately for them. 1531 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 3: A quick mention on the way out here. ESPN Plus 1532 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 3: has a boxing offering for Mexico this Saturday, Luke. You 1533 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,720 Speaker 3: remember Luis Nary, former champion at one eighteen, had some 1534 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 3: weight issues. He had moved up to I think to 1535 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:36,880 Speaker 3: one twenty six. Even last time out he's at one 1536 01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 3: twenty two. Here he'll be in a ESPN Plus main 1537 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 3: event and he'll be taken on Frolean Saludar. But the 1538 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,760 Speaker 3: whole point is last time out, Neary may have delivered 1539 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 3: the fight of the year against ovin a stan Luke, 1540 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 3: that was an absolute brawl worth catching a stream if 1541 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 3: you haven't seen it. 1542 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,560 Speaker 4: Mary can thumps and DDP just made weight and dude, 1543 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,680 Speaker 4: he looks like he is in fantastic shape. 1544 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 3: Well, Luke, the topic two aligns perfectly with the live 1545 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 3: UFC way and show that will continue to update you 1546 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 3: on as they hit the scale, because there's been a 1547 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 3: big announcement, Luke. Not only as we previously mentioned, is 1548 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 3: power Slap. I believe three happening tonight July seventh in 1549 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 3: Las Vegas as part of the UFC's International Fight Week 1550 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 3: offering Hall of Fame Convention all that stuff. Dana White 1551 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 3: and company are taking it one. You could argue, massive 1552 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,600 Speaker 3: step forward, Luke. During the current UFC Way In Show, 1553 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 3: which is happening now and live, Dana has announced that 1554 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 3: Power Slap we'll be having one of the fights on 1555 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 3: tonight's card early and as you can see, they're on 1556 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 3: that tweet from Amy Kaplan shout out heavyweights Nate the Buffalo, 1557 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 3: Soldier Bernard and Stevie ray Paine are going to slap 1558 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 3: off in between real UFC fighters stepping on the scale 1559 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 3: and probably DC and Wideman and Loris Sanko spinning the 1560 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:56,439 Speaker 3: wheel and having some fun. But Luke, this is either 1561 01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 3: something we can laugh off as WTF, good old Dana, 1562 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:01,920 Speaker 3: or is this the tease? 1563 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 2: Is this the. 1564 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 3: Trial period for much further pollination and crossover? 1565 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 2: How nervous if that's even the right word. 1566 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 3: Maybe we're just soy boy MMA media haters, Luke, who 1567 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 3: are getting in the way of great Americans delivering, you know, 1568 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 3: business initiatives. But Power Slap isn't just taking over the 1569 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 3: social media channels of the UFC today. 1570 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 2: It's going to be part of the offering your thoughts on. 1571 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Rob Bittaker made weight, Here comes Jasmine? Or yes? 1572 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 2: Mean how to get just pick a pronunciation? I mean, 1573 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:34,320 Speaker 2: just pick one. 1574 01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 4: It just depends on where you're from. Okay, you'll say it. 1575 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 4: I'll say yas me and my wife would not. She 1576 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 4: would not say I'll say yasmine. She makes weight as well? Okay, Yeah, 1577 01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 4: I mean here's the thing, like they're just balloon testing 1578 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 4: all this shit, right, like they're going to put this 1579 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 4: these two donks, Bernard and Pain in this uh slapping thing. 1580 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: Oh, she has barely any clothes on. That's interesting. 1581 01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 4: All right, Look she's a professional fighter with I understand 1582 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 4: you can keep your early clothes. But the point I 1583 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 4: want to make was BC, like, what's stopping them because 1584 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 4: it's also sanctioned by the Nevada Commission. It's not like 1585 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 4: it's independent of that. What's stopping in them from having 1586 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 4: a hybrid and then a slap show? Like if you 1587 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,240 Speaker 4: pay to watch, like they'll put like two fights, then 1588 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 4: a slap fight, and then two more fights in the 1589 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 4: slap fight. 1590 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,920 Speaker 3: The key question is how close are we on a 1591 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 3: pay per view from the paper views. 1592 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 4: Stopping them from doing that. Nothing, nothing is stopping them 1593 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 4: from doing that. So it looks to me, like, I mean, 1594 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 4: it's amazing. First of all, it's amazing that like it 1595 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 4: does do well on things like TikTok, But then when 1596 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,840 Speaker 4: you look at their YouTube numbers, their fucking dreadful. 1597 01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 2: Oh Luke Dana said this, this not only dominates social media, 1598 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,480 Speaker 2: power Slap does more clicks on social media than every 1599 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 2: major sport by. 1600 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a bunch of bullshit, but uh, for sure 1601 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 4: it doesn't do well on YouTube. 1602 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:48,120 Speaker 1: Like you can look at the numbers there, it doesn't 1603 01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 1: do all that great. 1604 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,840 Speaker 4: And then more to the point, more to the point 1605 01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 4: about that, Uh, it's like people keep saying, Oh, if 1606 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 4: you don't want to watch it, don't Well the fucker 1607 01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:58,640 Speaker 4: I'm trying. 1608 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying. 1609 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 4: I'm trying my ass off to not watch. You're making 1610 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 4: it very very difficult for me to avoid it. Please 1611 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 4: fucking stop doing that. Like, if I don't want to 1612 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 4: watch Formula One, it's very easy to not watch. If 1613 01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,280 Speaker 4: you don't want to watch Premier League, it's very easy 1614 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 4: to not watch. They're trying desperately to push anything they 1615 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 4: can in terms of the UFC halo on to MMA 1616 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 4: fans to just get them to be grudgingly accepted because 1617 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 4: they obviously want to make money off this thing and 1618 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 4: whatever else. But it is, it's so it's like it 1619 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 4: clearly cannot stand on its own, so it needs the 1620 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,439 Speaker 4: UFC halo. It's not nearly as popular as they ever 1621 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,280 Speaker 4: present it, which everyone knows already. It's just, you know, 1622 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 4: a concussion contest. Hey, do you like combat sports but 1623 01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,919 Speaker 4: you hate defense? I've got great news for you. Watch 1624 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 4: these two hurstsuits, overweight people give each other concussion at 1625 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 4: eight am in the morning for your enjoyment on ESPN Plus. 1626 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 3: You love to say well because you MMA media are 1627 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 3: soft and you guys were featured in Data's video, so 1628 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 3: this is all about you versus Dana, which it's not. 1629 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 3: You can also say you're just a Data hater, which 1630 01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 3: I was never But am I becoming a Data hater 1631 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 3: this calendar year with bullshit like this? 1632 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 2: Yes, this is fucking shameless. 1633 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 3: This is like the original XFL as like the great 1634 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 3: big you know, misstep of Vince McMahon's business career until 1635 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,280 Speaker 3: he misstepped all over those women, Luke, and this is 1636 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,360 Speaker 3: new Coke all over again. Nobody's asking for this. People 1637 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 3: have told you we don't want this. People have told 1638 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 3: you it insults the actual product and the fighters that 1639 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 3: you represent in the UFC. Yet you're shamelessly forcing it 1640 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,720 Speaker 3: upon us. And if all those numbers were really true 1641 01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,080 Speaker 3: from Dana about how much of this dominates, they wouldn't 1642 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,560 Speaker 3: need this exposure. But Luke, you have to start asking 1643 01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,040 Speaker 3: yourself as an MMA fan, a true MME fan, and 1644 01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 3: I have Actually I'm actually proud of this. Do I 1645 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,280 Speaker 3: get a lot of hate from the people that are 1646 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 3: diehard data you know protectors? 1647 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: Yes? 1648 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,760 Speaker 3: And I understand that right because, in some degree, Luke, 1649 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 3: a lot of us as MMA fans, even though I've 1650 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 3: watched the early UFC pay per views with my dad, 1651 01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 3: like a lot of people for just curiousness, we became 1652 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 3: hardcore MM fans because of Dana, because he was arguably 1653 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 3: the greatest salesman of all time, because he rallied you 1654 01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 3: to believe in the sports future so much that you 1655 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 3: were almost on the team with him. He did that 1656 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 3: to the media members, he did that to the to 1657 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,280 Speaker 3: the fans, and made it feel like one big family, 1658 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 3: like we're all chearing for this sport to break through 1659 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 3: and this man to push this brand forward, and this 1660 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 3: calendar here at least they've completely shit on that idealism. 1661 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:25,600 Speaker 3: And I had to have had a lot of fans 1662 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 3: reach out and be like, I don't want to see 1663 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 3: every show turn into Duncan on Dana, but he's let 1664 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,440 Speaker 3: me down. This sucks, Luke. This is a bridge too far. 1665 01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,919 Speaker 3: This is like we're programming you for the future here. 1666 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 3: Nobody wants this fucking future at all, So so bag 1667 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 3: it already. Take the l or if you want to 1668 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 3: keep doing it like they do with the peebet with 1669 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 3: a professional rodeo, or like they do with all this 1670 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,960 Speaker 3: other stuff that Dana and the zoofas own with the 1671 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 3: what do they have BMX racing circuits? 1672 01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what else ptfolio, But the whole point is, 1673 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? 1674 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 3: Put an octagon in the middle of that next BMX 1675 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 3: race and we'll have one fight from the UFC pay 1676 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 3: per view during the you know what I mean? 1677 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,840 Speaker 4: Like I seen that by the WAB Regional Mma where 1678 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 4: they were jumping bikes over a fight that was happening 1679 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,000 Speaker 4: beneathing gimmicks. 1680 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 2: I've seen live rap music during fights. 1681 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 3: I've seen MMA Boxing Crossover, I've seen Golden Boy MMA, 1682 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:09,280 Speaker 3: I've seen all the gimmicks. 1683 01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 2: Okay, this is the worst possible gimmick and UFC should 1684 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 2: be above this. 1685 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 3: But again, even if you want to diversify your business 1686 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 3: and do it, do it in your own silo, keep 1687 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:17,920 Speaker 3: it away. 1688 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,920 Speaker 2: It's it's disgusting, it's the worst. Look. 1689 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 3: So I'll go back to that thing, Luke. Are we 1690 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,200 Speaker 3: just Dana haters or are we like literally, I don't 1691 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,519 Speaker 3: want to oversay it like we're fucking soldiers digging in 1692 01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,840 Speaker 3: on the line here, But I think we're standing up 1693 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 3: for a certain level of quality control in the sport. 1694 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 3: That is this calendar. You're just going out the window. 1695 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,360 Speaker 3: And nobody seems to back me on this conspiracy theory. 1696 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:41,080 Speaker 3: But this has to be more about about we're not 1697 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 3: promoting UFC to the full level because corporately, we have 1698 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 3: to pay off the WW purchase from Endeavor, and we're 1699 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 3: still paying off the UFC purchase from years ago. But 1700 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,760 Speaker 3: it's the fact that Dana just doesn't care, Luke, he 1701 01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 3: does not care about UFC anymore. 1702 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 2: What is he promoted in the last few months. 1703 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,600 Speaker 3: Zuck versus Musk shamelessly and slap fighting shamelessly. 1704 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 1: Also also his admittedly quite impressive sneaker collection. 1705 01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna transition very shortly into Connor McGregor talk. But 1706 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:06,320 Speaker 3: you know what the Dana of seven years ago, five 1707 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 3: years ago, ten years ago would have done. He'd make 1708 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,400 Speaker 3: fucking sure he calls up Cocona McGregor and goes take 1709 01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 3: this channeler fight, Let's do it, like, what's your problem? 1710 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 3: And if Connor said no, we'd probably publicly destroy Connor's 1711 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:17,920 Speaker 3: good name to try to zap him into coming back. 1712 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,840 Speaker 2: Where's saying no? Connor's a bit he doesn't want this fight? 1713 01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 3: The Dana also, Luke of years ago, wouldn't be welcoming 1714 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 3: a slap fight onto his great promotion. He would be 1715 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,160 Speaker 3: taking his fighters from his great promotion and barnstorming around 1716 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 3: the country to try to get them on the Today 1717 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:31,720 Speaker 3: Show or that kind of thing. 1718 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 1: Right that those days are over. 1719 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 3: The idea of taking the sport and trying to elevate 1720 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 3: it through other channels are over. 1721 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 2: Now it's the inverted. Now we're bringing things we don't 1722 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,519 Speaker 2: want into this. What is next? 1723 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,599 Speaker 3: Luke scripted WWE backroom skits on UFC pay per views, 1724 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 3: because that's also in the portfolio. At some point you 1725 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 3: do have to draw the line around the octagon, the 1726 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,639 Speaker 3: brand and the sport and say thank you everything that Dana, 1727 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 3: Lorenzo and Frank and now Ari has done, but don't 1728 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 3: fuck with the actual thing anymore. Okay, because what you're doing, 1729 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 3: from unexplained soft matchmaking to all this other bullshit, it's 1730 01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,200 Speaker 3: it's starting to smell. It's starting to smell really bad, Luke, 1731 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:06,719 Speaker 3: and it's on all of us, and I can't get. 1732 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 2: It off of me. 1733 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 4: I found out something I b c Actually you know what, 1734 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:11,080 Speaker 4: let me answer this phone call. 1735 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 1: Okay, very good. Yes, Tulley also wants to bang. 1736 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,599 Speaker 4: And also I hear if you lose this lat fighting contest, 1737 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 4: you don't get tickets to UFC ninety. If you win, 1738 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 4: you also don't get tickets to UFC two ninety. 1739 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:24,439 Speaker 1: He's just gonna go straight to the er. There you go. 1740 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,200 Speaker 3: So, Luke, speaking of that other data bit of news 1741 01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 3: connected to this involving Connor regrets, if. 1742 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,800 Speaker 4: If I may make one point, and seriously, seriously, you know, 1743 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:37,040 Speaker 4: the UFC used to be very very careful about presenting 1744 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,160 Speaker 4: too much of a violent image. So for example, like 1745 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 4: Frank Mihir got into a hot water when he said 1746 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:43,639 Speaker 4: he wanted brock Lessner. 1747 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 1: To be the first death in the Octagut at his hands. 1748 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,479 Speaker 4: Now, guys say they want to kill each old all 1749 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:49,040 Speaker 4: the time, and I get that, like the sport has changed, 1750 01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 4: but if you don't, if you weren't around in two 1751 01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,400 Speaker 4: thousand and six or seven, you don't appreciate and that 1752 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 4: I thought the zufa's sensitivity on this. 1753 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 1: Stuff was right. 1754 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 4: For example, the IFL when they made their big debut 1755 01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 4: on network television, they had a guy carry it out 1756 01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 4: in a stretcher like the you know, the heartbeat on 1757 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 4: the EKG flat lighting going deep on like this, this 1758 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,639 Speaker 4: like promo package, and it was horrifying to. 1759 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 1: The MMA community. 1760 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:13,479 Speaker 4: Like the UFC was very very good about steering away 1761 01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,640 Speaker 4: from that kind of stuff, really focusing on some of 1762 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,879 Speaker 4: the other parts of the sport and parts of the brand. However, 1763 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 4: what this kind of tells you is between the slat 1764 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,680 Speaker 4: fighting stuff and then saying I know we're going to 1765 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,160 Speaker 4: get into it, and then saying, you know, who cares 1766 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 4: what you SAWA says that sensitivity they had about the 1767 01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:34,680 Speaker 4: product being associated with wanton violence or otherwise this like 1768 01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 4: real hardcore focus on safety. Well, they appear to have 1769 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,760 Speaker 4: let down the guardrails to a fair degree in ways 1770 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,719 Speaker 4: that I find quick and surprising. 1771 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,679 Speaker 2: Does money change everything, Luke? I guess it does. 1772 01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,479 Speaker 3: So like everybody else moving forward missed me with the 1773 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,160 Speaker 3: you should thank Dana for. 1774 01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,759 Speaker 2: Having a job, You should do all this stuff. 1775 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 3: That's the Dana of old and I used to think 1776 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,040 Speaker 3: that guy. In fact, I got pictures of me as 1777 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 3: a fan with Dana. A lot of us have that, Luke, 1778 01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,800 Speaker 3: When when we met him early on in a non 1779 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:02,120 Speaker 3: work situation, that ain't the guy anymore. Okay, if we're 1780 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 3: supposed to be critical and hold the fighters to the 1781 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 3: ideal that we have in combat sports, Luke that no 1782 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:07,680 Speaker 3: matter how much we love him, you're only as good 1783 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 3: as your last fight. Right, In a lot of ways, 1784 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 3: you're only as good as your stock of where you 1785 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:14,280 Speaker 3: are now. That's unfair, but that ultimately becomes the truth 1786 01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 3: when we break this down. Hey, Dana, you're only as 1787 01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,160 Speaker 3: good as this calendar year in terms of what you're 1788 01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 3: putting out. You're not helping the sport anymore. You're not 1789 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,559 Speaker 3: You're not helping the sport move forward anymore. 1790 01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 1: I will say this helping or hurting. 1791 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:28,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, But like, is the UFC maximally promoting 1792 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 4: quite obviously not? 1793 01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:31,519 Speaker 1: No, quite obviously not. 1794 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,400 Speaker 3: So what they are promoting, Luke, is a fight that 1795 01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 3: unfortunately may never happen between Connor McGregor and Michael Chandler. 1796 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 2: The tough season is still rolling on. 1797 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:40,960 Speaker 3: We have no resolution on Connor entering the mandatory six 1798 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 3: month USAWA program. Dana White caught up with TSN and 1799 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 3: Aaron Bronstead or shout out, here's the quote that's getting 1800 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 3: passed around a lot. 1801 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:47,760 Speaker 1: Luke. 1802 01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,519 Speaker 3: I'll read it to you one hundred percent, says Dana. 1803 01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 3: There's a chance Connor McGregor fights this year. He's not 1804 01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 3: back in the USADA testing pool. The Connor thing, who 1805 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,840 Speaker 3: the hell knows what's going to play out, but who 1806 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:01,879 Speaker 3: cares what USADA says, We'll see what happens when it happens. 1807 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:02,680 Speaker 2: So I don't know. 1808 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:03,879 Speaker 1: End quote. 1809 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 3: So Dana is saying, Luke, despite the fact that Connor 1810 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,479 Speaker 3: needs to be in the pool for six months and 1811 01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,960 Speaker 3: right now. Mathematically, if he entered the pool, he wouldn't 1812 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,920 Speaker 3: be eligible to fight until what January end of January 1813 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four Dana says, there's a great chance. 1814 01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 2: There's a ninety percent chance that Connor could fight this year. 1815 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 3: And if you're wondering about USADA, I don't care what 1816 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 3: USADA thinks, says Dana, as he often says, Luke, that's 1817 01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 3: Novitzky's problem. 1818 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: The fuck is. 1819 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 2: Going on here, dude? What is really like? What is 1820 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:30,639 Speaker 2: happening here? 1821 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 4: I have to tell you, I was shocked. I was 1822 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,000 Speaker 4: shocked by that. You know again, when they were invited 1823 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,840 Speaker 4: into the world, was this twenty sixteen ish something like 1824 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 4: that twenty fourteenth I. 1825 01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:41,719 Speaker 1: Can't remember anymore. 1826 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 4: There was all of this, and remember it came out 1827 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,840 Speaker 4: of the TRT crisis, where all these guys were taking TRT, 1828 01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:50,120 Speaker 4: then popping in all kinds of ways and then otherwise looking, 1829 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 4: you know, in ways that didn't seem natural, and they 1830 01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 4: caused this moral panic where they then over corrected and 1831 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,679 Speaker 4: went the path of you Sada. And now it's like, well, 1832 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,559 Speaker 4: wait a second, here, we've made things a little bit 1833 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 4: better in terms of not throwing guys under the bus 1834 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,680 Speaker 4: until their situation has been adjudicated. 1835 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Okay. 1836 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,560 Speaker 4: There's been a couple of other changes in terms of 1837 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 4: what they test for and to what degree they test 1838 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:12,920 Speaker 4: for it? Okay, and I thought we were getting to 1839 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 4: not to a great place, but to a somewhat more 1840 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,080 Speaker 4: sane and rational spot. And then the very people in 1841 01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,920 Speaker 4: charge of the fighting organization say, who cares what the 1842 01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 4: people who we hire to do all this anti doping? 1843 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Who cares what? They say? 1844 01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 4: We'll just do what we want to do, which, of 1845 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 4: course we always knew was They're right. Hello, that's how 1846 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,600 Speaker 4: brock Lesner fought at UFC two hundred. Like, none of 1847 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 4: this is new, but the rhetoric to be so publicly 1848 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 4: dismissive of these people. 1849 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,440 Speaker 1: That they hire is shocking. 1850 01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 4: It is shocking coming from the world where they had 1851 01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 4: this high falutin language and these promoted ideals about what 1852 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 4: it means for clean sport, whatever the fuck that it 1853 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 4: is supposed to be, but you know, talking about it, 1854 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 4: putting a rhetoric behind it, putting frankly like a bit 1855 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,240 Speaker 4: of a pr effort behind it, and how important it 1856 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,320 Speaker 4: was for the sport, how important it was for athletes, 1857 01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 4: and how important it was for overall. 1858 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,640 Speaker 1: Safety of the competition. 1859 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 4: And now they're like, you know, hey, we'll we're just 1860 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,800 Speaker 4: gonna do whatever the fuck we want with Connor, and 1861 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,320 Speaker 4: that's really gonna be the end of it. Which, by 1862 01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:08,880 Speaker 4: the way, it's not even like I really find that 1863 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 4: a problem. 1864 01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,679 Speaker 1: I get that why they would want to do it. 1865 01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:16,240 Speaker 1: It's just the about face has happened so quickly and 1866 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:21,840 Speaker 1: so almost overnight, that I'm actually kind of I'm actually. 1867 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,600 Speaker 4: BC have to tell you, I am even someone like 1868 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,760 Speaker 4: me who doesn't really think anti doping should be pushed 1869 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:28,519 Speaker 4: in the way that it is. 1870 01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 1: Drugs win drug war. 1871 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,040 Speaker 4: Drugs always win the drug war. Drugs will do nothing 1872 01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,479 Speaker 4: but win the war. They can't lose. So the best 1873 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,800 Speaker 4: point I've always made, but BC, I will say this, 1874 01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:41,479 Speaker 4: I think on top of the situation, people have asked, well, 1875 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,760 Speaker 4: if then what the hell's the point of Usada. This 1876 01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 4: has been the point of Usada since day number one, 1877 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,960 Speaker 4: since day fucking won. If they were brought in to 1878 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 4: quell a pr and potentially regulatory headache that came out 1879 01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,160 Speaker 4: of TRT, what is it you think they are buying? 1880 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,040 Speaker 4: It is arguable that mma isn't even a real sport 1881 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 4: by virtue of how it is constructed and how it 1882 01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 4: takes place. It is more just sort of like real competition, 1883 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 4: but on an entertainment model, not a sporting model, right, 1884 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,679 Speaker 4: so it really has even a hard time calling. 1885 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:16,120 Speaker 1: Itself a sport. 1886 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 4: This idea that it was pushed for a clean sport 1887 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 4: is just nonsense. That they tell people to either because 1888 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,400 Speaker 4: they're true believers or because they're just gulls. 1889 01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:25,519 Speaker 2: Does just cover lawsuits? 1890 01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,719 Speaker 3: Is just still ahead of that sale in twenty sixteen 1891 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 3: to look like we've got this thing under control. 1892 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 4: Partially, the sale was a big issue, but the other 1893 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 4: one is it's catastrophe insurance, right, I mean, just think 1894 01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:36,760 Speaker 4: about it. It's not that I recognize the ideas of 1895 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,760 Speaker 4: anti doping as unimpeachably true, but rather as pervasive in 1896 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 4: the public. And therefore, if they were to have some 1897 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 4: kind of let's say, paralysis or death by virtue of 1898 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 4: a fight in the octagony, and even if someone didn't pop, 1899 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:50,880 Speaker 4: but let's say that they popped on top of it, 1900 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 4: the person who did the damage popped, you could imagine 1901 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,880 Speaker 4: this would be a massive scandal, even though you could 1902 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 4: you necessarily draw a line between what they were using 1903 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,040 Speaker 4: on what happened, on some level, of course you could. 1904 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:05,120 Speaker 4: I'm just simply pointing out what they're doing is they're 1905 01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 4: buying insurance that in the event that something terrible happens, 1906 01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,400 Speaker 4: even if someone doesn't pop, they can say, look, as 1907 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,679 Speaker 4: a promoter, what more could we have done? What more 1908 01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:17,160 Speaker 4: could we have done? We paid for extra antidoping. That is, 1909 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,360 Speaker 4: trying to make this as safe as possible. We're regulated, 1910 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:20,800 Speaker 4: We try to do that as best we can. We 1911 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,840 Speaker 4: don't go to bullshit states. We go to states with 1912 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 4: the best commissions, even though we know Nevada's of pathetic commission. 1913 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 4: At best, it's insurance against catastrophe. From a pr perspective, 1914 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,800 Speaker 4: that is the value it provides. Because you must realize 1915 01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,559 Speaker 4: if they did have a paralysis, and more to the point, 1916 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,920 Speaker 4: if they had a death, that is an existential. 1917 01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:42,840 Speaker 1: Moment for the UFC. I think they would survive it. 1918 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,759 Speaker 4: But trust me when I tell you back in twenty 1919 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 4: sixteen that was not necessarily as widely assumed. They had 1920 01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,920 Speaker 4: to do something to shore up their business in the 1921 01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 4: event that catastrophe struck, whether or not it has any 1922 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,800 Speaker 4: relationship to keeping anyone safe to begin with, that is 1923 01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 4: the role that antidoping plays. And we know this as 1924 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 4: a motivating factor B see because the research on this 1925 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:03,360 Speaker 4: is clear. 1926 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:06,599 Speaker 1: Part of the way that WATA came to be is. 1927 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:11,080 Speaker 4: Off the back of PR scandals from discovered use. That 1928 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 4: is how anti doping institutions and lore is built. 1929 01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,320 Speaker 1: But now the creator or. 1930 01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 4: The people we're in the UFC are saying, well, who 1931 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 4: gives a fuck what they say you shot about? 1932 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 3: One thing is it's being run exclusively now as an 1933 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 3: entertainment brand the UFC and less and less as a 1934 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,200 Speaker 3: true sporting brand. In the past, that would get blurred 1935 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,720 Speaker 3: when the UFC would screw up their own rankings and 1936 01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,360 Speaker 3: not go by meritocracy just to elevate a popular fighter 1937 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,920 Speaker 3: into a title fight. But we dealt with that because 1938 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:36,960 Speaker 3: we know at the end of the day it's a 1939 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:38,759 Speaker 3: business and it is about entertainment. 1940 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,280 Speaker 1: But look, when you do things. 1941 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,760 Speaker 3: Like get the ESPN deal and become almost on par 1942 01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,640 Speaker 3: with the Big four sports and really carve out your 1943 01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,599 Speaker 3: own niche different expectations, you can't operate like as two 1944 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:51,439 Speaker 3: thousand and eight anymore. Would David stern Rip or Roger 1945 01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,640 Speaker 3: Goodell be allowed to come on a press conference or 1946 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,479 Speaker 3: come on a situation where this is how the company 1947 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 3: is communicating with the public and the media and just 1948 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 3: be like, ah, yeah, who cares what the drug tester, 1949 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 3: Like you know, I mean like like we're past where 1950 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 3: that is acceptable, and this type of conversation came out 1951 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,400 Speaker 3: of us when the when Dana's slapping thing happened with 1952 01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 3: his wife in the you know, the companies around him 1953 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 3: didn't respond publicly. And it's like more is demanded of you, 1954 01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 3: as a you know, de facto commissioner or whatever here 1955 01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,080 Speaker 3: than to just be like I'm not sure. I mean, seriously, Dana, 1956 01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,360 Speaker 3: clean up the house, get figure out is this fight 1957 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 3: happening or not. You've got a dinosaur of a show 1958 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,320 Speaker 3: rolled back out to promote this fight that you're not 1959 01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,880 Speaker 3: even sure is going to happen, and you're like, well 1960 01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,360 Speaker 3: it might, and if it does, who cares what the 1961 01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 3: drug testers think? 1962 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,719 Speaker 1: Bro WTF Okay? 1963 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,640 Speaker 2: Like at some point, like it is all entertainment and 1964 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,000 Speaker 2: that's why we pay for it and we love it, 1965 01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,559 Speaker 2: but it's also a sport. 1966 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:40,280 Speaker 1: We try to get. 1967 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 3: Behind the meritocracy of it and the accomplishments and debating 1968 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,280 Speaker 3: who's the featherweight goat and all this bullshit. 1969 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,320 Speaker 2: Luke, if that's not all backed. 1970 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 3: By by some level of like legitimacy, and we're just 1971 01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,720 Speaker 3: we're just weighing it now when we're slapping it, that's 1972 01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:52,400 Speaker 3: what we're doing. 1973 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,639 Speaker 2: We're just publicly slapping it around. Okay, dude, I don't 1974 01:19:55,640 --> 01:19:56,960 Speaker 2: hate him, and man, I don't hate Dana. 1975 01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 3: I want it to be great again. Someone get me 1976 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,599 Speaker 3: a red baseball cap. Let's roll on Las Vegas. Also, 1977 01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 3: this week provided us with a very interesting I don't 1978 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:05,879 Speaker 3: want to say reunion. 1979 01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:06,840 Speaker 2: How about a union. 1980 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,680 Speaker 3: No, not John Jones and Francis and Gano running into 1981 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,639 Speaker 3: each other at a PFL cage side smart cage side moment. 1982 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,200 Speaker 3: It's John Jones and Israel lot of Sonia, who don't 1983 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 3: forget had a multi year social media feud, and we 1984 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,200 Speaker 3: were talking about them meeting at heavyweight for the heavyweight 1985 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 3: title if both eventually got there in the lead up 1986 01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,879 Speaker 3: to the Blohovich light heavyweight title fight. That seems long ago, 1987 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,080 Speaker 3: but Luke Attasanya's team filmed much of. 1988 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 2: This union between the two of you. We have three 1989 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 2: videos to show. Let's hit it. 1990 01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:42,559 Speaker 1: Prus Alex, this mother Jon Hey, sure. 1991 01:20:44,120 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 10: Love, that's good less rough Kangy aways card. 1992 01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,760 Speaker 7: That the seven that one you never really big in 1993 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:06,120 Speaker 7: the face. 1994 01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:07,840 Speaker 10: I get my head. 1995 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,560 Speaker 7: I don't like that face out. I feel like you 1996 01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:18,840 Speaker 7: wanted he showing your wreath like you throw everything to you. 1997 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:24,320 Speaker 6: That's not se. 1998 01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:44,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's trying your wreath. I love you throw everything. 1999 01:21:45,000 --> 01:22:02,560 Speaker 6: Yes, that's that's not see. 2000 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 3: Okay, this feels more like have you seen this ship 2001 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:09,320 Speaker 3: than actual news. 2002 01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,639 Speaker 2: But Luke, did it feel good to see two goats 2003 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:13,960 Speaker 2: having a rubbing it up a nice way, like like 2004 01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:15,080 Speaker 2: loving it up respect? 2005 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 7: Yeah? 2006 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,599 Speaker 1: I would say in general, I'm one of these. 2007 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,040 Speaker 4: I kind of feel like, you know, less acrimony is 2008 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:21,000 Speaker 4: better for your life. 2009 01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:22,879 Speaker 1: It does make me wonder about some of the criticisms 2010 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 1: that he's. 2011 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:24,640 Speaker 4: Had of John, like what happened to them? Do you 2012 01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 4: still I'll say, I guess he doesn't feel that way anymore. 2013 01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't really still believe John drinks nose beers all day. 2014 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:34,040 Speaker 1: I've never heard nose beers really, yeah, nose beers? 2015 01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,639 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, no, it's common these days. 2016 01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:42,160 Speaker 1: Per geff gaff, how old are you? Thirty? Fuck? You 2017 01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,200 Speaker 1: might know? Yeah? Yeah, better than we would anyway. 2018 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Uh, they're never gonna fight though, right, 2019 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 2: it's never gonna never gonna Oh. 2020 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 1: He's adding numbers now he's thirty one. 2021 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and all of a sudden just started adding digits 2022 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,160 Speaker 4: afterwards thirty one plus nine. 2023 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:59,240 Speaker 3: The whole idea of Jones and Ghanu is, even if 2024 01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,880 Speaker 3: it did happen somewhere down the road, it'll never probably 2025 01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,599 Speaker 3: not be as big as it could feel right now? 2026 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:04,280 Speaker 1: Is he? 2027 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,880 Speaker 3: John is more spectacle than necessarily like history? But do 2028 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,280 Speaker 3: you think there's any scenario that UFC would get behind 2029 01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 3: that and we could make it. 2030 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't think John's gonna be around long enough. I 2031 01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:15,799 Speaker 1: just it's not his imagine. 2032 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:19,280 Speaker 3: If John is around long enough, I think he's inevitable 2033 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:20,800 Speaker 3: gonna move up to two five, maybe get one more 2034 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,719 Speaker 3: Againstrickland or DDP if he upsets or whatever. Some people 2035 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:25,560 Speaker 3: are telling me, No, dude, we learned enough from the 2036 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,320 Speaker 3: Yon fight that is, he can't do this. I think, 2037 01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 3: is hey, if he builds his body can do it 2038 01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 3: at two five? If is he moves up to two 2039 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 3: o five and has success, is it possible we get 2040 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,639 Speaker 3: some type of catchway John John's fight. 2041 01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,320 Speaker 1: No, he's not gonna stick around long enough. All right, 2042 01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,160 Speaker 1: there we go. It's great talking to you, Luke Thomas. 2043 01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:43,799 Speaker 3: We close with a topic four, Luke, and that's heavyweight 2044 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 3: Boxing's got an announcement here Mike Coppinger of ESPN on 2045 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,040 Speaker 3: the reporting here. Uh, it's gonna go I don't have 2046 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,679 Speaker 3: that link broke all right, Luke, It's gonna be Anthony 2047 01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:53,839 Speaker 3: Joshua in August. 2048 01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,680 Speaker 2: I forgot the actual date here. It's not in front 2049 01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:55,920 Speaker 2: of me. 2050 01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,280 Speaker 3: And he's gonna rematch Dillion White now to review here, 2051 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,479 Speaker 3: Dillion White was an amateur rival of AJ. They met 2052 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,320 Speaker 3: in the pros early on in AJ's rise. White hurt 2053 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,120 Speaker 3: Joshua in that fight. It was an exciting fight. Well, 2054 01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 3: AJ came back to knock him out. It's going to 2055 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:14,200 Speaker 3: be August twelfth. I'm not sure if that's a Dozon yeah, 2056 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,400 Speaker 3: his own PA per view in the States or regular designe. 2057 01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,800 Speaker 3: But the whole idea here, Luke, is that AJ does 2058 01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:21,720 Speaker 3: this as I mean, it's not a stay busy. There's 2059 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 3: there's there's history between them, but it's sort of an 2060 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:28,000 Speaker 3: elevated stay busy on the path. According to Coppinger, of 2061 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,360 Speaker 3: the idea of him fighting Deontay Wilder meaning Anthony Joshua 2062 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 3: in December, Yes, a lot of money would have to 2063 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,040 Speaker 3: come through in Saudi, and it could be linked with 2064 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,960 Speaker 3: that Fury fight or could be not. We'll find out, 2065 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 3: but on paper as it is right now, Joshua White 2066 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 3: to August twelfth. 2067 01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 1: Are you in no boring? Why is that boring? Though? 2068 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,439 Speaker 2: Because Anthony's rebuilding himself. He didn't look great against Jermaine Franklin. 2069 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 4: He's got a new trainer in Derek James. 2070 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,920 Speaker 2: This fight we all knew was always gonna happen. 2071 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 4: Fine, I'd be curious to see it in the sense 2072 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,400 Speaker 4: of like what aj can look like now with two 2073 01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:00,280 Speaker 4: camps with Derek James. 2074 01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 3: But because White Dillion, White's older, but he can still 2075 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,880 Speaker 3: pop and he can still hurt and stop Joshua, do. 2076 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,840 Speaker 4: You really believe he'll win? If I had to tell 2077 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,479 Speaker 4: you to bet, you bet your home, would you. 2078 01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:09,960 Speaker 1: Bet on him? 2079 01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 2: Jack Della Maddelena. 2080 01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:13,920 Speaker 4: Basically almost everyone has made weight. Like there was just 2081 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,080 Speaker 4: a parade chef. They must have called chief cast, they 2082 01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:19,920 Speaker 4: called cheff casts. He put on the lights and yeah, 2083 01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:20,559 Speaker 4: let me start. 2084 01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:22,360 Speaker 2: They were like, can you put that weird blinking light 2085 01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,559 Speaker 2: thing on my package? Will that help me lose weight? 2086 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 3: Okay, Luke, I'm into Joshua White too. I think in 2087 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 3: Joshua's progression and if we build, if he wins that, 2088 01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,080 Speaker 3: then we finally get the Wilder fight. 2089 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:35,080 Speaker 4: AJ versus Wilder is amazing. I wouldn't say one bad 2090 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,160 Speaker 4: thing about that, but white versus are million White versus 2091 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:38,760 Speaker 4: AJ two. 2092 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 2: I'd rather him stay busy. 2093 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,000 Speaker 3: And I still feel like that final four is still 2094 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,439 Speaker 3: intact of Fury versus U sick and potentially AJ against 2095 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,840 Speaker 3: Wilder and maybe the winner's face off in twenty four may. 2096 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,439 Speaker 1: Well, here comes Brandon Reyville weighing in. 2097 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,800 Speaker 2: They brought out the nude thing, the nude cover list. 2098 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, they brought out the walker that they put out, 2099 01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,440 Speaker 4: and then you can get naked behind. 2100 01:25:56,200 --> 01:26:00,519 Speaker 1: You think DC would have leaned on that, but you 2101 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:01,760 Speaker 1: can't even see ow there is. 2102 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,879 Speaker 2: It looks like so row Dog Roival is the backup 2103 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:07,960 Speaker 2: for them. 2104 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's the case. 2105 01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:14,320 Speaker 3: Yes, and he's naked, Yes, and he has made it 2106 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,960 Speaker 3: Luke the prime sponsorship right there, Luke, we are going 2107 01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:23,000 Speaker 3: to close with two segments. First, or we stand trial 2108 01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,680 Speaker 3: for the rights or of the wrongs we may have 2109 01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,439 Speaker 3: set into these microphones for three to four days a week. 2110 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,080 Speaker 3: Morning Combat at gmail dot com is your chance to 2111 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,080 Speaker 3: email in and take us to make us stand trial. 2112 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,080 Speaker 2: It's called dead wrong. 2113 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,679 Speaker 3: You've got angry mail viewers, Luke, let's hear from Rick. 2114 01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,719 Speaker 3: He says, good evening, fellow wash Dads and Jaundice. Who 2115 01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:50,280 Speaker 3: it's your guy? Rick from the Fight Capital of the 2116 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,439 Speaker 3: East Coast, Jacksonville, Florida, Here to take a stand against 2117 01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 3: BC's vast and off and obscure references to all things 2118 01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,519 Speaker 3: NBA on MK at seventeen minutes and eleven seconds of 2119 01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:03,320 Speaker 3: the Holiday Mailbag episode, which was very much appreciated by 2120 01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,479 Speaker 3: the way Luke was explaining why he lost interest in 2121 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:09,719 Speaker 3: the Schwarzenegger documentary, being that Arnold clearly had too much 2122 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,360 Speaker 3: say in what was being portrayed, and BC compared it 2123 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,519 Speaker 3: to the Last Stand with Michael Jordan, Sorry BC, U 2124 01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,840 Speaker 3: Last Dance, Oh my god, the Last dand with Brian Custer. 2125 01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:25,639 Speaker 2: Damn, I just oh sorry the other BC at shiftime 2126 01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,200 Speaker 2: by the way they call him BC when we're out 2127 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 2: there at events as well. Sorry BC, You're dead wrong. 2128 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:31,160 Speaker 2: MJ's doc was the Last Dance? 2129 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:31,840 Speaker 1: Yes it was. 2130 01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,599 Speaker 3: However, maybe it was just the CTE talking because good 2131 01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 3: old Arnie actually started a movie called The Last Stand 2132 01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:37,839 Speaker 3: in twenty thirteen. 2133 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:38,639 Speaker 2: I did not see that. 2134 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:39,559 Speaker 1: I did not see that either. 2135 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,040 Speaker 2: You guys are the best can't wait for you to 2136 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,719 Speaker 2: get the PFL smart cage on the RSD couch. 2137 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,040 Speaker 1: Cheers, Rick, we may have to go two. Dude. 2138 01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 4: Cormier's top three featherweights of all time. He has Max 2139 01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:51,240 Speaker 4: as one. It looks like it's a ranking. Max has one, 2140 01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:52,760 Speaker 4: Jose is two in Volcus three. 2141 01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:55,000 Speaker 3: I know, I bet that it's like it's like he said, 2142 01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:56,479 Speaker 3: I won't pick one and I'll just give you three. 2143 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 1: That's what I bet. Okay, I mean, clearly these are 2144 01:27:58,520 --> 01:27:59,479 Speaker 1: the top three. I don't know. 2145 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,720 Speaker 4: We don't have audio, but if he's ranking it in 2146 01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,000 Speaker 4: that way, it's like the worst possible ranking to have. 2147 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:07,840 Speaker 2: But I take issue with you saying that Connor can't 2148 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:08,519 Speaker 2: be in this debate. 2149 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:09,080 Speaker 1: He can't. 2150 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:12,120 Speaker 3: He has seven, like six finishes and seven fight like. 2151 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:15,240 Speaker 3: The thing is he monstratlatively finished big names. 2152 01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:17,680 Speaker 1: He didn't finish Max right, there was. 2153 01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:18,400 Speaker 2: An injury involved. 2154 01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 3: He's a monstrapatively finished big names, where other people I 2155 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 3: guess didn't had some trouble with them. 2156 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:23,800 Speaker 2: Wonder loss had decisions like. 2157 01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,600 Speaker 1: He didn't defend his titles through that division. Just what 2158 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,400 Speaker 1: he's like listening through it. He did very well. I mean, 2159 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:30,320 Speaker 1: who would say otherwise? 2160 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you have to put him in that conversation. 2161 01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:33,799 Speaker 2: He's in the He's not gonna win the conversation. 2162 01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it depends how much of the conversation I'll have. 2163 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,880 Speaker 2: Bro In the ninety sixth election, all right, Ross Porro just. 2164 01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,120 Speaker 4: Took votes from Bush. They were very upset about that. That's 2165 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,040 Speaker 4: why Clinton was able to win. 2166 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got the machine head. Look it's better than 2167 01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:46,040 Speaker 1: the rest. But I was just where is Ross Puro 2168 01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:47,639 Speaker 1: from in Texas? 2169 01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,800 Speaker 4: I don't know, never heard of this place. Uh, it's 2170 01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:54,640 Speaker 4: it's the mix between two words. And now I forgot it. 2171 01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:58,240 Speaker 4: My brain just stopped working. Hold on, hold on, all right, 2172 01:28:58,640 --> 01:28:59,680 Speaker 4: textar caanon. 2173 01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:01,439 Speaker 2: I've never been there, Luke. 2174 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,880 Speaker 3: One day, I want to visit the Double Cross Ranch 2175 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:05,799 Speaker 3: in Amarillo, Texas, the home of Terry. 2176 01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:10,800 Speaker 4: Funk Ammirillo by morning. Amirillo is where? Ah, Hoby, what 2177 01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:11,639 Speaker 4: does Amarilla mean? 2178 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,599 Speaker 1: Uh? I don't know. I might e Joe Yello. 2179 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:18,960 Speaker 2: Are you saying people from Amarilla are yellow? 2180 01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,599 Speaker 1: I'm saying that's the Spanish word for yellow. 2181 01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:23,439 Speaker 2: All right, back to dead wrong here, Thank you Rick 2182 01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 2: for that. I was wrong. 2183 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,280 Speaker 3: Let's go to Gabe. Hey, you washed up donks. This 2184 01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,719 Speaker 3: is my first time watching you guys. Wow Rono writing 2185 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 3: to you guys. 2186 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,720 Speaker 1: But I was about to say, it's like, wow, Jesus. 2187 01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 3: But I've been a day one Donk. On the latest 2188 01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 3: Mailbag episode, at forty four minutes in, Brian was heard 2189 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:41,200 Speaker 3: singing it just takes some time and then asked if 2190 01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,960 Speaker 3: it was Jimmy Eat World. Luke then proceeds to say, 2191 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,760 Speaker 3: in a tone dryer than an elephant's ball sack, that 2192 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 3: the song was a nineties high school radio jam. Luke, 2193 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,479 Speaker 3: the song was a high school jam, but for the 2194 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:56,639 Speaker 3: two thousands class because the song released in one when 2195 01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,080 Speaker 3: this man Gabe was a freshman. 2196 01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,640 Speaker 2: So take that you, Gray Moose, You guys, I'm a 2197 01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 2: big fan. 2198 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,639 Speaker 1: Don't for life? Biatcha all right? I will take that out, 2199 01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:04,720 Speaker 1: all right, Gabe, Thank you. 2200 01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,160 Speaker 2: Number three here is from Victor b Luke. Hi you 2201 01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 2: absolute sacks of fecal matter. 2202 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:14,240 Speaker 1: What the fuck? Man? Fan? Here from Gray yet surprisingly 2203 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:14,760 Speaker 1: happy Denver. 2204 01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:18,040 Speaker 4: I love his intros like what's up child molesters anyway? 2205 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 1: Big fan of the show, like okay Luke. 2206 01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,639 Speaker 3: He says he's from the happy country of Denmark, which 2207 01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,000 Speaker 3: is somewhere in Scandinavia. 2208 01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 1: BC. 2209 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:29,559 Speaker 2: Is that true. On Monday's holiday mailbag. Wow, we stuck 2210 01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:30,160 Speaker 2: on that one. 2211 01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,240 Speaker 1: We apparently just licked all the balls on that one. 2212 01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,880 Speaker 3: Luke said that Connor's fight versus Cowboy in twenty twenty 2213 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,479 Speaker 3: was his first since the Mayweather boxing match. Has the 2214 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:42,320 Speaker 3: abundance of Latin ash cheeks been mushing the old Gray 2215 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,920 Speaker 3: Dome lt That fight was in twenty seventeen, and Carr 2216 01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,360 Speaker 3: made his return next year against a certain mister Habib. 2217 01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:50,479 Speaker 3: That being said, I love the show and we'll try 2218 01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,920 Speaker 3: best to one day give you a second Danish. 2219 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,400 Speaker 2: Fan besides myself. That means he's gonna bang. 2220 01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:57,360 Speaker 4: He's gonna bang like two. I will take that out, 2221 01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:59,160 Speaker 4: all right. Two more that I said. 2222 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:01,360 Speaker 2: This one's from Bennett, Hey, Luke and BC. I was 2223 01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 2: watching episode four fifty nine at one eighteen thirteen, and 2224 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,920 Speaker 2: Luke corrected BC, who thought John Lineker was the one 2225 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:11,000 Speaker 2: banhamweight champion for Bricio Androge, now conceededly stating that the 2226 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:12,599 Speaker 2: current champ was for Bricio Silva. 2227 01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,840 Speaker 1: How yeah, you corrected yourself, corrected ourselves in real time. 2228 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,240 Speaker 2: So Bennetty, don't you keep watching? 2229 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? You didn't finish watching there, did you? You got 2230 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 1: it all. You got the Twitter fingers you didn't fit. 2231 01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,720 Speaker 4: We've corrected ourselves and actually looked it up to get 2232 01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,040 Speaker 4: the name just right on that segment. 2233 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:26,639 Speaker 3: So yeah, we were allowed the end of the show 2234 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,320 Speaker 3: to dead wrong ourselves and fix it. 2235 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:28,719 Speaker 2: He says. 2236 01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,400 Speaker 3: Fabricio Androge is well known for kicking Lineker in the penis. 2237 01:31:31,439 --> 01:31:33,120 Speaker 3: That's so hard that he shattered his cup. 2238 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:33,799 Speaker 1: That's true. 2239 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,479 Speaker 3: Much love from upstate New York. Finally, Luke, this one's 2240 01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,120 Speaker 3: from Michael. Although Owen also wrote in they Say on 2241 01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,559 Speaker 3: the June thirtieth show, college educated Luke Thomas was dead wrong. 2242 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,720 Speaker 3: He said that Kevin Lee got cut after losing to 2243 01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,479 Speaker 3: Charlie Olives, when in fact, he got cut after losing 2244 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,920 Speaker 3: to d Rod. Can you guys, at least, oh my guy, 2245 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,320 Speaker 3: to be good at your jobs, as that asked you. 2246 01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,759 Speaker 4: So, I think what happened was he got injured again 2247 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,080 Speaker 4: after this, after the ola Ea fight, and then plus 2248 01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,720 Speaker 4: it was the pandemic, and and I guess he just 2249 01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,240 Speaker 4: sat out for a while. Yeah Jesus Christ, Yeah, sorry 2250 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,120 Speaker 4: about that. I'll take that out. I took a few 2251 01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:05,639 Speaker 4: wels today. 2252 01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,360 Speaker 1: Goddamn. Yeah. 2253 01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,120 Speaker 3: I don't know why you need to bring Jesus into it, 2254 01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:09,599 Speaker 3: but we will pray for you just the same. 2255 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:09,880 Speaker 1: Weak. 2256 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was dead wrong Morning Combat at gmail dot 2257 01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:15,120 Speaker 3: com for that and Wednesday's fan stubs. 2258 01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,120 Speaker 2: But looke, we closed with some fun here Monday. 2259 01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,960 Speaker 3: We apparently mailed it in with that mail bag episode 2260 01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:23,080 Speaker 3: on July third, so we didn't get to see some 2261 01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:24,120 Speaker 3: of that she ad. 2262 01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:24,479 Speaker 1: Dude. 2263 01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,639 Speaker 4: I mean, if anybody knew what was going on behind 2264 01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:29,800 Speaker 4: the scenes, the fact that we have even have a 2265 01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,160 Speaker 4: show today, it's a it's a miracle. 2266 01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:33,120 Speaker 1: It's a miracle. 2267 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,880 Speaker 2: Oh stop that what the plane landed? 2268 01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:37,920 Speaker 1: We're fine, Okay, Oh no, we're fine. But I'm just 2269 01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:38,280 Speaker 1: saying to. 2270 01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:40,639 Speaker 2: Make Tom Hanks want to make a big Sully Sulmburg movie. 2271 01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:43,559 Speaker 4: No, no, no, how would you describe the plane ride? It's 2272 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 4: not the Selenburger thing. But did you see that lady 2273 01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,400 Speaker 4: who got off the plane and then was like and 2274 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,000 Speaker 4: that man back there and there was no. 2275 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,120 Speaker 1: Guy back there at all? Kind of was like one 2276 01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,160 Speaker 1: of those plane rides, all right, all right? Like that? 2277 01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 3: Well, Luke BC's Feces is going to make a special 2278 01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:00,360 Speaker 3: Friday edition here as we close our show. The highs 2279 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,960 Speaker 3: and lows, the good, the bad, the ugly in combat 2280 01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,519 Speaker 3: sports and beyond, and by beyond I mean elder abuse. 2281 01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,439 Speaker 2: This one's called have you seen this ship? 2282 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,040 Speaker 1: Hey? Do you think they're gonna talk? Uh? Just a 2283 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,360 Speaker 1: question since Kamar is on the panel. 2284 01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:15,479 Speaker 4: Yes, do you think they'll talk about Kadirov on today's 2285 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:16,400 Speaker 4: UFC Way In Show? 2286 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:17,759 Speaker 1: Do you think they'll do that? No? 2287 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,400 Speaker 2: No, Luke, Well it was July fourth, over the weekend, Luke, 2288 01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,439 Speaker 2: so smoke him if you got them. Let's celebrate this 2289 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:23,640 Speaker 2: great nation's. 2290 01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,559 Speaker 3: Birthday or maybe the week not the weekend, by smoking 2291 01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,320 Speaker 3: the largest blunt ever inside the ground. Yes, you know 2292 01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,840 Speaker 3: this guy with the USA, Sure, he's the that's right, 2293 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:34,360 Speaker 3: that's right. 2294 01:33:36,240 --> 01:33:38,880 Speaker 4: First of all, by the way, can the can the 2295 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:44,479 Speaker 4: viewers hear me? I mean, first of all, this man 2296 01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:46,920 Speaker 4: should be shipped like a normal to Abu Dhabi for 2297 01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:47,519 Speaker 4: that fucking hair. 2298 01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:48,839 Speaker 2: Dude, I follow him on Instagram. 2299 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 3: He's squirrel bait, that's the That's right, that guy, that 2300 01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:53,600 Speaker 3: guy look at you would this would knock you the 2301 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:53,920 Speaker 3: hell out. 2302 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,439 Speaker 4: Takes Now, I will say that this is extremely impressive 2303 01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 4: and that they have the garage doors closed like real men. 2304 01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,280 Speaker 1: Definitely is a good thing. You got to bake that up. 2305 01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,320 Speaker 2: I bet you within minutes they'll be all all pressed 2306 01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:03,920 Speaker 2: up against the wall. 2307 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:04,160 Speaker 1: Kno. 2308 01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,120 Speaker 4: But I will also say this, you cannot claim to 2309 01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,400 Speaker 4: be a patriot and then wear the American flag. 2310 01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,560 Speaker 1: It's against flag code. I don't give a fuck what anybody. 2311 01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,479 Speaker 3: Say, Rick Monday, I get if someone's burning the flag 2312 01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,800 Speaker 3: in the outfield. This guy's celebrating America with the giant 2313 01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:16,559 Speaker 3: John celebrate. 2314 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,479 Speaker 4: You can celebrate with the colors, not with an actual 2315 01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:20,719 Speaker 4: representation of the flag on your clothing. I know everyone 2316 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,000 Speaker 4: does it and they think it's patriotic. 2317 01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 2: It is the exact opposite, is I don't think this 2318 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:25,480 Speaker 2: guy's doing it because it's patriotic. 2319 01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:28,240 Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, he probably just stole it off another homeless guy. 2320 01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,120 Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna guess. 2321 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,479 Speaker 3: Well, Luke, if you don't want to smoke the largest 2322 01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,880 Speaker 3: blunt of all time with that's right, guy, how about 2323 01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,400 Speaker 3: this weed face mach Could you survive sixty seconds in 2324 01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:39,160 Speaker 3: the weed face mask? 2325 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:42,440 Speaker 1: I hope not. Just let me die. 2326 01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,720 Speaker 2: Let me dude that has irreparable harmed you. 2327 01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:52,000 Speaker 4: Honestly, if assistance suicide should be legal in this country, 2328 01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,640 Speaker 4: and this should be one, and this should be one 2329 01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 4: of the mechanisms where they just marijuana you to death. 2330 01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,400 Speaker 4: I sign up for that, all right, years old. 2331 01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna call out, we've done full tub bong 2332 01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,360 Speaker 3: hits in the past and just just took a knife 2333 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,840 Speaker 3: to our lungs one sixty second run with this. 2334 01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,439 Speaker 2: You can that you don't never breathe properly again. 2335 01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:12,320 Speaker 1: No, you'll be like having COVID or something flu or whatever. 2336 01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:16,559 Speaker 3: All right, Luke, speaking of America, Luke, name a more 2337 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,920 Speaker 3: American male than this Florida man right here who showed 2338 01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:20,599 Speaker 3: up to the cookout. 2339 01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,559 Speaker 1: Is he just practicing karate on Swans? 2340 01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, this motherfucker's rolling around with a snake. 2341 01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,479 Speaker 2: And hoo che Luke at a forty or something. What 2342 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:33,120 Speaker 2: does he holding? 2343 01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,160 Speaker 1: It's like Keith Pearson. First of all, he's built like 2344 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:37,160 Speaker 1: a French bulldog. 2345 01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 2: And do you should hear that song? It's like America. 2346 01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:47,280 Speaker 4: Fuck yeah, dude, imagine like you know what Florida is Flora. 2347 01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,280 Speaker 4: I said this before, it's just bootleg Australia. It's like, 2348 01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,839 Speaker 4: just take all like the deadly, venomous shit you see 2349 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:58,160 Speaker 4: in Australia and then just infuse myth and poverty and 2350 01:35:58,200 --> 01:35:59,240 Speaker 4: the fact that there. 2351 01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,880 Speaker 3: Part two was like a dystopian version of Hillsdale. Remember that, Yes, 2352 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,000 Speaker 3: that's what Florida is. 2353 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right. That's a good way to 2354 01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:06,880 Speaker 1: put it. Right. 2355 01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:09,760 Speaker 3: Speaking of Florida, it's time for your bumper sticker of 2356 01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:10,320 Speaker 3: the week, Luke. 2357 01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:11,599 Speaker 2: I'm gonna assume this is Florida. 2358 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:12,000 Speaker 1: Now. 2359 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,040 Speaker 4: I do read the English language, and according to that 2360 01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:18,960 Speaker 4: it says I eat milf ass, save a horse, ride 2361 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,800 Speaker 4: a milk boy. Who would put this on the back 2362 01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,559 Speaker 4: of their shit car? Oh, I know, probably someone from Florida, Luke. 2363 01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,679 Speaker 3: Speaking of eating ass, let's check in on Japanese pro wrestling. 2364 01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,360 Speaker 3: First thing I'll make them do is toss myself. 2365 01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:48,240 Speaker 4: This the you know how is Chinese water torture? Is 2366 01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,160 Speaker 4: this like Japanese ball bag torture? 2367 01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Japanese bung hole torture. I think that's what it is, Luke. 2368 01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,320 Speaker 2: Shout out to Rise and Risen just the. 2369 01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 1: Same, Luke. 2370 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:57,800 Speaker 2: Let's go over to the ambulance you ever see it. 2371 01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,800 Speaker 4: Know the Japanese look down on us for being he 2372 01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,160 Speaker 4: which we really are, but they are they're gross motherfuckers too. 2373 01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,439 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, I'm not supporting that. 2374 01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,560 Speaker 3: I'm not supporting that comment from Luke Thomas Luke, a 2375 01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,439 Speaker 3: real man refuses medical care. 2376 01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:10,640 Speaker 2: Let's watch his journey after this. 2377 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like fucking ambulance. I don't give a fuck. 2378 01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:16,160 Speaker 4: Give me that pizza, bitch. 2379 01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:20,599 Speaker 1: That's probably just snorted. 2380 01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,000 Speaker 2: That's a perfect ending to that. Wow, that's great. 2381 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,280 Speaker 4: If he had grabbed a slice and kept it moving, 2382 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:26,679 Speaker 4: I'd have been impressed. 2383 01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:27,880 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the ball field. 2384 01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:35,200 Speaker 2: Luke watched this umpire call strike three? 2385 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:38,200 Speaker 6: That is he, Luke. 2386 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:40,000 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. I gotta tell you, I'd watch 2387 01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,559 Speaker 1: a lot more baseball if they did. Luke. 2388 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:45,200 Speaker 2: The UFC Vegas was last weekend. Let's look back on 2389 01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:45,800 Speaker 2: this moment. 2390 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:47,800 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever seen a coach change oil 2391 01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:49,879 Speaker 3: during an actual fight celebration. 2392 01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:54,680 Speaker 2: Did you watch this? Hey, coach? Can you adju? Can 2393 01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,200 Speaker 2: you even give me a little bit of a yeah? 2394 01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:57,720 Speaker 2: Let me get another quart down there there? 2395 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:04,040 Speaker 1: All right? What what was he trying to milk his tailbone? 2396 01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:05,640 Speaker 2: Do you think Eric Nixick would do that for us 2397 01:38:05,680 --> 01:38:06,479 Speaker 2: if we chose to fight. 2398 01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,599 Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think you would. All right. 2399 01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:12,280 Speaker 2: I don't blame him either, I mean, I mean, what 2400 01:38:12,920 --> 01:38:14,840 Speaker 2: is this the right form. Is that called the Turkey? 2401 01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,200 Speaker 2: Each Am I allowed to do that on the show? 2402 01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:16,800 Speaker 2: That's probably not? 2403 01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,519 Speaker 1: All right? The two and the and then the one 2404 01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:19,320 Speaker 1: and the Yeah. 2405 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:22,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, all right, Luke this week in 2406 01:38:22,960 --> 01:38:28,439 Speaker 3: Real recognizing reel, you wanna champion and Mel Gibson ring 2407 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,240 Speaker 3: side of the Apex case went to. 2408 01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:33,639 Speaker 4: The guy who has screamed the N word on the phone. 2409 01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:38,400 Speaker 3: Look, sometimes reel just recognizes reel. These two are champions. 2410 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,120 Speaker 1: Right, So what's Mel Gibson's best movie? 2411 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:41,680 Speaker 6: Uh? 2412 01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:46,519 Speaker 2: Right, no, no, let's be honest here, what's his best Oh? 2413 01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:50,080 Speaker 3: He was really good in Conspiracy Theory with uh with 2414 01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:51,840 Speaker 3: uh with the Redhead, the Julia Robts. 2415 01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:54,120 Speaker 1: Oh, no, it's got to be Mad Max. Yeah yeah, 2416 01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:55,800 Speaker 1: mad Max. He was really good in Mad Max. 2417 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 3: Probably right, all right, I mean he did he did 2418 01:38:58,040 --> 01:38:59,360 Speaker 3: produce The Passion of the Christ. 2419 01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:03,160 Speaker 2: Right. Oh, they're saying brave, Oh we're obviously braveheart dude, No, 2420 01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,080 Speaker 2: we're we're absolutely all right, all right, all right, we 2421 01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:06,200 Speaker 2: did dead wrong live. 2422 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:07,400 Speaker 1: We're assholes it. 2423 01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,519 Speaker 4: You know, I just you know, did you ever hear 2424 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:12,200 Speaker 4: the phone calls he left that woman he was dating? 2425 01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I heard Dog the bounty Hunter's phone calls 2426 01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:15,960 Speaker 2: at hul Cogan's as well. I mean it, guess he 2427 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:17,840 Speaker 2: just keeps getting worse. Look for our heroes. 2428 01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:22,880 Speaker 3: Unfortunately, a real, recognized, real Luke won one championships. Mikey mussamechi, 2429 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:25,519 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that town for pizza with at Zuck. 2430 01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,320 Speaker 1: Your thoughts just two fucking nerds. I mean, come on, 2431 01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:31,320 Speaker 1: Mikey's a good dude, right, I like Mikey. I like 2432 01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:32,040 Speaker 1: Mikey a lot. 2433 01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:35,160 Speaker 4: I mean again, dude, in Mma, it don't matter what 2434 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,400 Speaker 4: you've done, anybody can come on and it's. 2435 01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,240 Speaker 1: Like I do. How did all these like awful characters 2436 01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:40,200 Speaker 1: get into the sport? Yeah? 2437 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,680 Speaker 4: Because you fucker let him in. There's just no screening, 2438 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:44,960 Speaker 4: no filtering process. 2439 01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,080 Speaker 1: Just let all these fucking guys. 2440 01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:48,920 Speaker 3: This isn't a true, real recognizing reel, but this is 2441 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:52,200 Speaker 3: a man after your own heart. Here's Paulo Costa's most 2442 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:53,000 Speaker 3: recent tweet. 2443 01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:57,520 Speaker 4: People thinks I'm training hard to fight unknown Russian at altitude. 2444 01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,720 Speaker 1: Reality, I'm smashing some bbl all day. 2445 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,360 Speaker 2: This is is he referencing Tracy Luke. 2446 01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,639 Speaker 4: Truly, the enlightenment culture in the sport is really quite overwhelming. 2447 01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,840 Speaker 3: What did you make of the response from Ortega saying, 2448 01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,640 Speaker 3: you didn't. He didn't fumble the bag because he purposely 2449 01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:13,479 Speaker 3: threw a pick six. 2450 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:13,800 Speaker 1: Luke. 2451 01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, He's like, if you just throw it away, that's 2452 01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:20,040 Speaker 4: not an incomplete' that's a that's a completion, it's a complete. 2453 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,599 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, it's that's an incomplete pass. Also, didn't 2454 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:24,719 Speaker 4: he get her name tattooed in his mouth? 2455 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:25,920 Speaker 1: He did? He did? 2456 01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:27,920 Speaker 2: The thing is his track record is so? 2457 01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:28,680 Speaker 1: Is so? 2458 01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,400 Speaker 2: Scott Bayo like that. It's hard to criticize. 2459 01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,400 Speaker 4: Now, what's his face? Gaff is saying, mouth tattoos are temporary. 2460 01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:34,840 Speaker 4: There are places that do. By the way, there's a 2461 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,720 Speaker 4: place in DC now called ephemeral. It's a tattoo that 2462 01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:40,080 Speaker 4: only lasts for a few years and then goes away. 2463 01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:43,040 Speaker 4: Gaff Is saying, mouth tattoos go away? 2464 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:48,320 Speaker 1: Is that true? All the saliva? He says, like, you know, 2465 01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:49,240 Speaker 1: dennigrades it. 2466 01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:50,760 Speaker 4: I'm not sure how true that is. I've seen I 2467 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,320 Speaker 4: saw a guy get his gums tattooed. Forty years later 2468 01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:54,320 Speaker 4: they were still tattooed. 2469 01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:57,599 Speaker 2: Would you get morning combat tattooed inside your lip? 2470 01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:01,200 Speaker 1: Only after we get fired? Only after we get fired? 2471 01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,320 Speaker 1: It's weird, all right? Uh? 2472 01:41:03,479 --> 01:41:05,599 Speaker 4: Hey, why do they interview more skeletons on this show? 2473 01:41:05,680 --> 01:41:07,479 Speaker 4: I mean everyone getting off the scales and having to 2474 01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:08,439 Speaker 4: go and sit and talk about it. 2475 01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:09,120 Speaker 1: They look terrible. 2476 01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:13,120 Speaker 3: Our final real recognizing real you norse, MK malka social 2477 01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:17,679 Speaker 3: guy Brendan Lynch, Yes, he had boxing sparring with Ac Slater. 2478 01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,920 Speaker 1: Look at this guy Lynch. He's jack as shit, right, 2479 01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,360 Speaker 1: what would you say? Is he a good uh not 2480 01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:23,920 Speaker 1: a good looking guy? 2481 01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:25,519 Speaker 2: I mean that, but is he like a h O 2482 01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:26,720 Speaker 2: would and Bengham if that's where you're going? 2483 01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:31,960 Speaker 4: No, no, no, how would you describe him positively or a 2484 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:33,240 Speaker 4: poor man's Gordon Ryan? 2485 01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:35,439 Speaker 2: Upon meeting him? 2486 01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:38,559 Speaker 3: I will say he's a very good dude at positive 2487 01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:39,960 Speaker 3: but he is a poor man's Gordon Ryan. 2488 01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:41,040 Speaker 2: There's no question about it. 2489 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:42,880 Speaker 1: Sort of like the Volkanowski Aldo thing, right. 2490 01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know his situation, he's he's I mean, 2491 01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,720 Speaker 2: I'm hoping that he's you know, slinging and banging. Look, 2492 01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,840 Speaker 2: I hoping he's using it before he's losing it. You 2493 01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:50,400 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. 2494 01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is the age to do that. 2495 01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,439 Speaker 2: I mean, this guy's jacked as shit, This guy Lynch. Wow, 2496 01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,360 Speaker 2: shout out right there. Amazing. 2497 01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:58,559 Speaker 3: I don't know a c Slater has an age today. 2498 01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:00,400 Speaker 3: By the way, you think it's just a a lot 2499 01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:00,760 Speaker 3: of lotion. 2500 01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:04,559 Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit more than that. 2501 01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,479 Speaker 2: You think he's doing like extreme peds. 2502 01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:10,519 Speaker 1: Not even that, just like extreme not extreme cosmetic work. 2503 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:14,080 Speaker 4: But I would imagine that his you know, his skincare 2504 01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,679 Speaker 4: routine is probably pretty oceans. But also it's more emotions. 2505 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,400 Speaker 4: But also that like anytime he needs a little help, 2506 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,439 Speaker 4: you know, there's always a little doctor to fix that. 2507 01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,280 Speaker 4: What kind of help, like Bob Kraft help, I would say, like, 2508 01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,400 Speaker 4: for example, his hair has probably been worked on. 2509 01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,080 Speaker 1: He probably has botox to some degree, like you know. 2510 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,559 Speaker 3: Indeed, indeed, all right, Luke, we have finally all those 2511 01:42:33,640 --> 01:42:35,920 Speaker 3: years youth said that you walk through first class just 2512 01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:37,760 Speaker 3: shit in your pants, we have finally found video of 2513 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:45,960 Speaker 3: you doing that on a train. Let's listen it, Luke, 2514 01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,120 Speaker 3: just out here crop dust in average folks. 2515 01:42:48,160 --> 01:42:48,960 Speaker 1: I mean, what are you doing? 2516 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:49,439 Speaker 2: Hair, Luke? 2517 01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:52,120 Speaker 4: First of all, I mean you just put your face 2518 01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,519 Speaker 4: in another person's ass or on a train like you 2519 01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:55,880 Speaker 4: basically deserve that. 2520 01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:57,719 Speaker 2: But you see your hair get blown. 2521 01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:00,479 Speaker 4: Dude, would you ride on a train? Have you ever 2522 01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:02,880 Speaker 4: ridden on a sleepover train. Oh no, I did it 2523 01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,200 Speaker 4: one time, crossing from the Czech Republic. Where were we 2524 01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:10,760 Speaker 4: going into Germany? I don't even remember anymore where the 2525 01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,280 Speaker 4: fuck we were going? And it was gross as shit. 2526 01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw a guy on TikTok. 2527 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:17,200 Speaker 4: He was like, I'm gonna ride across India for thirty 2528 01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:21,000 Speaker 4: hours on a train and there were like a dozen 2529 01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,280 Speaker 4: people in a sleeper for four insane. 2530 01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:23,920 Speaker 1: It's gross. 2531 01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:26,599 Speaker 3: Look remember the kid in your elementary of middle school 2532 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:28,160 Speaker 3: that's like, no, you do understand, dude, I got a 2533 01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,680 Speaker 3: new girlfriend. She just lives in another state. And you're like, yeah, right, 2534 01:43:30,880 --> 01:43:32,519 Speaker 3: You ever wonder where those guys grow up to be? 2535 01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:33,719 Speaker 3: Luke who they become? 2536 01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:43,040 Speaker 1: Mall shooters? Let's look in Okay, okay, what the fuck? 2537 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:44,960 Speaker 1: I mean? 2538 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,559 Speaker 2: Look, you gotta try it before you buy it. So 2539 01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:47,799 Speaker 2: I like what this guy's doing. 2540 01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:51,920 Speaker 1: Right, Blow that up full screen. 2541 01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,439 Speaker 4: This guy's at Forever twenty one in whatever fucking mall. Look, 2542 01:43:57,479 --> 01:44:01,479 Speaker 4: these parents are like hurrying the bids away. Here's the 2543 01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,080 Speaker 4: question that this dad has to We have to ask 2544 01:44:04,120 --> 01:44:07,280 Speaker 4: about this dad. What is he listening to in the headphones? 2545 01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:07,479 Speaker 1: Oh? 2546 01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:09,679 Speaker 2: Oh one six? 2547 01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:10,120 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2548 01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,720 Speaker 2: Talk, you don't stop to the. 2549 01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:16,519 Speaker 4: Hot that is disturbing. What was the last time you 2550 01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:20,240 Speaker 4: were in a shopping mall Christmas time? Yeah, that's about right, 2551 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:21,040 Speaker 4: That's about right. 2552 01:44:21,160 --> 01:44:22,920 Speaker 2: Lucas time. I love this segments. 2553 01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:25,000 Speaker 3: A segment in within a segment brought to you by 2554 01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:27,320 Speaker 3: Mamita's it's MMA Fighters in the Wild. 2555 01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:27,599 Speaker 1: Luke. 2556 01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:30,920 Speaker 3: Here's Sea level Kane coaching up at Aka and he's 2557 01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:32,240 Speaker 3: got the lowjack. 2558 01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,760 Speaker 1: On, Luke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's working with Is. 2559 01:44:34,720 --> 01:44:36,680 Speaker 2: That make him look tough for what to have? 2560 01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:37,080 Speaker 1: That? 2561 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,320 Speaker 2: That that uh, that packet on his ankle? Luke, can 2562 01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:40,679 Speaker 2: you fight? 2563 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,639 Speaker 1: So here's a true here's a real question right here. 2564 01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,120 Speaker 1: We don't know if you mean the ankle bracelet. 2565 01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got the lowjack on right there, Coach Kine. 2566 01:44:47,479 --> 01:44:50,800 Speaker 3: Imagine if he I'm serious question here. Imagine if he 2567 01:44:50,840 --> 01:44:53,200 Speaker 3: announced the comeback and Dana's like, you know what, we're 2568 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,040 Speaker 3: gonna do it. Kane Velaska's versus John Jones, the best 2569 01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 3: fighter of all time against arguably the best heavyweight ever. 2570 01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:01,720 Speaker 3: Would he be allowed to fight with the lowjack on? 2571 01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:03,880 Speaker 3: Or would the law be like, no, you can you 2572 01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:04,720 Speaker 3: can unbuckle that. 2573 01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:07,360 Speaker 1: For the fight. I don't know how that works. I 2574 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,960 Speaker 1: don't think they'd be that lean you, But who the 2575 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:10,360 Speaker 1: hell knows. 2576 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:13,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you remember the Railway State prison fights in 2577 01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,240 Speaker 3: the early eighties when boxing there was that champion was 2578 01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,720 Speaker 3: lest Him Scott and he defended his title in a 2579 01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:18,599 Speaker 3: prison a couple times. 2580 01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but like wearing an ankle bracelet in boxing is 2581 01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:21,559 Speaker 4: totally different. 2582 01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:23,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if he had to wear that. Yeah, 2583 01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:25,120 Speaker 2: that's an interesting question. Here, let's keep it going here. 2584 01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:28,120 Speaker 2: Luke Craig Jones was at the UFC Fight Pass Invitational 2585 01:45:28,160 --> 01:45:30,679 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks back, and here's his post fight interview. 2586 01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,240 Speaker 1: I'll do anything for the right price, you know, so 2587 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,000 Speaker 1: that's the limit for me. 2588 01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:37,960 Speaker 10: But to know, we're going to hit the nose beers 2589 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:39,920 Speaker 10: at Hakasana to see where your guys there. 2590 01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:45,479 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody give it up for mister Craig Jones. 2591 01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 2: He didn't mean that. 2592 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean, does he really mean that? Probably? I mean, 2593 01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,760 Speaker 1: I would imagine a fair amount of nose beers. Get 2594 01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:51,000 Speaker 1: done it. 2595 01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:53,439 Speaker 3: Let's go to a gaff is young enough thirty one? Well, 2596 01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:54,599 Speaker 3: how old is Long Island? 2597 01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:58,000 Speaker 1: Luke? In the back he's twenty. Okay, Long Island, Luke, 2598 01:45:58,080 --> 01:45:58,559 Speaker 1: he looks fit. 2599 01:45:58,760 --> 01:46:01,519 Speaker 3: What does nose beers at Highkisan at the MGM Grand 2600 01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,080 Speaker 3: in Las Vegas mean, can you please say it in 2601 01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 3: my ear? And I'll tell the people they can't find 2602 01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:08,840 Speaker 3: him in the control room. The control room's like like 2603 01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,800 Speaker 3: the size of a New York City apartment. What does 2604 01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:13,320 Speaker 3: let's go have nose beers. 2605 01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:18,320 Speaker 2: At Hakkissan mean in twenty eight year old speak, this 2606 01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:19,679 Speaker 2: is terrible, This is terrible. 2607 01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:22,320 Speaker 1: Tell terrible right here? Yes, sorry, sorry, bad bid, it's over. 2608 01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:23,360 Speaker 2: Do you think he meant it? 2609 01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:24,960 Speaker 1: Though? Probably? Okay? 2610 01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,840 Speaker 2: Probably, all right, let's keep that going there. 2611 01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:33,479 Speaker 3: Extreme Cuture Cuture Couture Cotur coach Eric Nixick has a 2612 01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:36,000 Speaker 3: new training program going on there in Vegas with Pontali 2613 01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:37,720 Speaker 3: le Siano Luke. 2614 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:40,640 Speaker 1: So looks like how we warm up here in the 2615 01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:41,600 Speaker 1: Malca studio. 2616 01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:46,960 Speaker 4: Right when I've said this before, you know how like 2617 01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:49,559 Speaker 4: you start watching MMA and then you watch it with 2618 01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:51,120 Speaker 4: someone who's never seen him before, and they're like, wow, 2619 01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,520 Speaker 4: this is really homoerotic. You're like, no, that's not true. 2620 01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:55,559 Speaker 4: I've been watching this sport for almost twenty years. It's 2621 01:46:55,560 --> 01:46:57,880 Speaker 4: the most homoerotic thing on earth. Like that's just what 2622 01:46:58,000 --> 01:46:58,320 Speaker 4: it is. 2623 01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,320 Speaker 3: All right, Look, I have a rule here that they 2624 01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,320 Speaker 3: never follow that. If you're going to get a dozen 2625 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,240 Speaker 3: donuts of Dunkin Donuts, at least four need to be 2626 01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:11,280 Speaker 3: Boston Creams at least like there's like one sometimes if 2627 01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 3: we're lucky, all right, I mean, come on, guys, thank 2628 01:47:14,160 --> 01:47:17,200 Speaker 3: you very much, let's go with Justin great. Look, speaking 2629 01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:19,800 Speaker 3: of MM fighters in the wild, I think you know 2630 01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:20,879 Speaker 3: I don't call Zuck. 2631 01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:21,479 Speaker 2: An MMA fighter. 2632 01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:24,720 Speaker 1: How about future Hall of Famer Barry. 2633 01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:29,200 Speaker 2: Bonds though Luke earned his BJJ bluebelt. Are you impressed 2634 01:47:29,240 --> 01:47:29,519 Speaker 2: by this? 2635 01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:30,960 Speaker 4: I actually am. I don't know how old he is 2636 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:32,800 Speaker 4: at this point. He's got to be in his fifties 2637 01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:34,000 Speaker 4: something like that. 2638 01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,519 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, he's his head is pack. Yeah, I 2639 01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:39,400 Speaker 1: mean it's so large. 2640 01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:41,920 Speaker 4: I mean that thing just can change the tide depending 2641 01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:42,639 Speaker 4: on which way he's watching. 2642 01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:45,120 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. Drugs do win drug wars. 2643 01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:48,519 Speaker 3: If we're not going to hold it against him, there's 2644 01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,920 Speaker 3: a strong argument he's the greatest baseball player of all time. 2645 01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:51,639 Speaker 1: There actually is. 2646 01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:54,360 Speaker 2: A strong he like he's ruthy and he show hey 2647 01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:55,599 Speaker 2: O Tani like Luke. 2648 01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:57,639 Speaker 4: And also I would just say, if there's any sport 2649 01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,680 Speaker 4: where you could take it up and you're using a 2650 01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:00,559 Speaker 4: list of drugs. 2651 01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,160 Speaker 1: Jiu jitsu would be that sport. 2652 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look seriously, that stretch ahead in his 2653 01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:06,599 Speaker 2: late third. 2654 01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,760 Speaker 4: D with him and Sosa and McGuire were like doing 2655 01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,120 Speaker 4: what they were doing. He was thrilled. 2656 01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:14,599 Speaker 3: But what he did after that, Okay, what I mean 2657 01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:17,599 Speaker 3: is after Bonds broke the McGuire and Sosa records from 2658 01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,400 Speaker 3: the from previous years, no one I think he hit 2659 01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,920 Speaker 3: what seventy three I'm talking about those last four years 2660 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:24,960 Speaker 3: when he was like getting intentionally walked like two hundred 2661 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,960 Speaker 3: times a year. He was getting one pitch to hit 2662 01:48:26,960 --> 01:48:29,080 Speaker 3: every two games, and he still had like forty home 2663 01:48:29,160 --> 01:48:31,920 Speaker 3: runs hit three seventy. Like, at some point we have 2664 01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,640 Speaker 3: to just go, Okay, obviously he had every pd in 2665 01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:36,559 Speaker 3: a system, but who has ever been that good in 2666 01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:37,439 Speaker 3: the history of one sport? 2667 01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:39,800 Speaker 2: Like seven MVPs, Like it's just bas Yeah, he was 2668 01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:41,839 Speaker 2: a joy to watch, but like he was a pariah 2669 01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:42,559 Speaker 2: for so many years. 2670 01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:45,840 Speaker 3: It'll come around, right, It'll come around eventually for him. 2671 01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:47,080 Speaker 1: Might be a while for him. 2672 01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:50,280 Speaker 2: Luke to close on MMA Fighters in the wild. Let's 2673 01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:55,680 Speaker 2: go to Danbury, Connecticut, Glover to Shera gets gifted by Poulton, 2674 01:48:55,840 --> 01:49:00,920 Speaker 2: his student a brand new motorcycle. This was a wholesome moment. 2675 01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:04,080 Speaker 3: A truck backed in to Glover's driveway to drop it off. 2676 01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:05,400 Speaker 3: They hugged it out. 2677 01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,040 Speaker 4: This is this is awesome, right, it's very generous, But 2678 01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:09,240 Speaker 4: that is a death machine. 2679 01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,040 Speaker 2: Well look, these are MMA fighters. They lived by this. 2680 01:49:12,240 --> 01:49:13,840 Speaker 1: That is true. Okay, it's true. They also have the 2681 01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:18,080 Speaker 1: same shoes on. I guess, dude. Their romance is awesome. 2682 01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:19,719 Speaker 1: I think Glover's been great. 2683 01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:21,799 Speaker 4: Well, actually they've been great for each other, but certainly 2684 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,360 Speaker 4: for Alex's fortunes, Glover has been about the best possible 2685 01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:26,120 Speaker 4: teacher you could have had. 2686 01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:27,240 Speaker 2: I think, think of your dominraces. 2687 01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,760 Speaker 1: You're like, oh shit, how do I follow that? I 2688 01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:31,559 Speaker 1: haven't heard from him in a while? Yeah, me neither. 2689 01:49:31,640 --> 01:49:35,400 Speaker 3: All right, look, time for your sports fans of the week. 2690 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,880 Speaker 3: Let's go to WW SmackDown and check out this kid 2691 01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:38,559 Speaker 3: over bad news. 2692 01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:39,679 Speaker 1: Barretts right shoulder. 2693 01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:43,920 Speaker 2: All right, do we parent anymore in this country? 2694 01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:44,160 Speaker 1: Look? 2695 01:49:44,240 --> 01:49:45,639 Speaker 2: I mean, what is going on here? 2696 01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:47,599 Speaker 1: Was this your kid's first time at WW? 2697 01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,360 Speaker 3: Okay, alright, it's not just WWE fans, Luke. You know, 2698 01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:54,800 Speaker 3: the worst people in the world are football fans. Let's 2699 01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,800 Speaker 3: go to the soccer pitch. All right, gentlemen, all right, okay, 2700 01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:00,639 Speaker 3: thank you, thank you very much. 2701 01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:02,679 Speaker 1: That's that's that's not nice. 2702 01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:03,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 2703 01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:07,000 Speaker 3: Dongs in Soccer also collaborated for this next interview. I 2704 01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:09,920 Speaker 3: want you to watch the fan over this lady interviewer's 2705 01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:10,599 Speaker 3: right shoulder. 2706 01:50:12,920 --> 01:50:16,040 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, this is okay, what this is just 2707 01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:20,160 Speaker 1: sexual harassment? Is what that is? Luke speaking of your 2708 01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:25,479 Speaker 1: favorite sports soccer Prime. You know Prime, right, the worthless 2709 01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:26,240 Speaker 1: drink for hydration. 2710 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,800 Speaker 3: Yes, has now become the official drink of your bandwagon, 2711 01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,560 Speaker 3: Barcelona football squad, Lougere. 2712 01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:34,360 Speaker 1: Barcelona is the team I hate the most. So thank 2713 01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:34,760 Speaker 1: you what. 2714 01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:37,920 Speaker 4: I'm so glad you brought this up that the frauds 2715 01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:38,960 Speaker 4: from Barcelona thought this. 2716 01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,400 Speaker 2: Oh you you're a Manchester Madrid and United. 2717 01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,880 Speaker 1: Say Manchester Madrid, Yes, that's what I forgot. What Manchester Madrid. 2718 01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:46,320 Speaker 2: That's the equivalent to the New. 2719 01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:49,160 Speaker 1: York Yankees, the one you follow, Uh you mean the 2720 01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:51,519 Speaker 1: best team in the world. That was good? 2721 01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,519 Speaker 2: So is this an embarrassment to your rival? 2722 01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:56,000 Speaker 1: Then? Yeah, I was actually delighted to see this. I'm 2723 01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:56,360 Speaker 1: so glad. 2724 01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:58,840 Speaker 2: I thought I was. I thought I was dunking on you. 2725 01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:02,080 Speaker 4: Oh, you're only taking a fuck face your own lack 2726 01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:03,280 Speaker 4: of soccer knowledge blew up in. 2727 01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:05,320 Speaker 3: Your face out all right, you never know what you're 2728 01:51:05,320 --> 01:51:07,679 Speaker 3: going to see on the roadway, Luken's clear, including what's 2729 01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,000 Speaker 3: going on in the back of this motorcycle. Now, there 2730 01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:11,960 Speaker 3: has been a stigma against this practice in person. 2731 01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:18,200 Speaker 1: Should row and I didn't? What the fuck? And she's breastfeeding? 2732 01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,519 Speaker 2: Is that safe? Do they have an extra chair back there? 2733 01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:26,160 Speaker 2: Can I get on the back of that too? 2734 01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:30,920 Speaker 4: I'm not even dude, dude, Florida is the worst place 2735 01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,680 Speaker 4: in the world. It's I cannot believe how many times 2736 01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,400 Speaker 4: I've been to Florida and I'll see people driving like this. 2737 01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,240 Speaker 4: You don't have to have a helmet in Florida like 2738 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:42,920 Speaker 4: at all when you drive a motorcycle, which is just 2739 01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:47,439 Speaker 4: beyond batshit crazy too. Right, well, I mean that's not 2740 01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,960 Speaker 4: limited to Florida anymore, but yes, but and then to 2741 01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:54,360 Speaker 4: ride like this, no one's got helmets on and you've 2742 01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,080 Speaker 4: got the kid, like the breastfeeding in public. I'm not 2743 01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:58,439 Speaker 4: one of those guys who gets up in arms about that. 2744 01:51:58,439 --> 01:51:59,800 Speaker 4: They should be able allowed to do that, no problem, 2745 01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,640 Speaker 4: but probably not the best time to do that is 2746 01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:07,759 Speaker 4: on the back of motorcycle with no helmets. 2747 01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair point, Luke. 2748 01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,920 Speaker 3: Last weekend in boxing, Savannah Marshall scored a majority decision 2749 01:52:12,920 --> 01:52:15,960 Speaker 3: win over Franchion Cruiz Desern to become the undisputed super 2750 01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:16,759 Speaker 3: middleweight champion. 2751 01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:17,719 Speaker 2: I think you. 2752 01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,599 Speaker 3: Remember her and Clarissa Shields at one sixty last year 2753 01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:22,479 Speaker 3: having really one of the best women's boxing maybe was 2754 01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:24,599 Speaker 3: it this year? Last year having one of the best 2755 01:52:24,880 --> 01:52:28,040 Speaker 3: women's boxing title fights we've ever seen. Clarissa Shields showed 2756 01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,599 Speaker 3: up at the press conference Tarvor Roy Jones style. 2757 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:32,560 Speaker 2: Let's listen in you know what's that. 2758 01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:34,519 Speaker 7: I'm gonna let you have your moment though, but you 2759 01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:36,439 Speaker 7: know what's up with me. That's why I'm here. So 2760 01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:38,599 Speaker 7: come on to the to the USA. You can get 2761 01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:44,640 Speaker 7: smoked again. Yeah, yes, ma'am, yes, I just you want 2762 01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:45,439 Speaker 7: me to be more high. 2763 01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:46,800 Speaker 6: Rat and be stronger sixty eight. 2764 01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:51,960 Speaker 7: Let's go. I beat you. I'll beat you again. You're 2765 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:56,720 Speaker 7: talking about the amateurs. Oh my god, alright. 2766 01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:07,439 Speaker 2: I smoke, Luke. I'm into this. I'm met it. 2767 01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,840 Speaker 4: I can tell by your delighted laughter that this is 2768 01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:11,160 Speaker 4: a moment of joy for you. 2769 01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:12,200 Speaker 1: Yes, true or false. 2770 01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,200 Speaker 3: The first fight was great for women's championship pocket match. 2771 01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:17,280 Speaker 3: It was because it was Marshall's legit power, and now 2772 01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:18,599 Speaker 3: we're going to fight one division higher. 2773 01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:20,479 Speaker 2: They're both going to be It was good. All right, 2774 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:23,000 Speaker 2: I'm here. There's very little like huge women's fights we 2775 01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:23,879 Speaker 2: can make, so let's. 2776 01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:25,280 Speaker 1: I know they have to resort to this to really 2777 01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,080 Speaker 1: build up their fights on. 2778 01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:26,920 Speaker 2: But it worked. 2779 01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm in, Uh yeah, I would watch it. 2780 01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:31,160 Speaker 2: Okay, shout out to cloister Shields there. All right, Luke, 2781 01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,439 Speaker 2: how about some milder abuse. It's time about to say 2782 01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:35,040 Speaker 2: how about this racetrack? 2783 01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,360 Speaker 3: This is right up your alley, Luke, the first ever 2784 01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:38,719 Speaker 3: grandparents race. 2785 01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:50,080 Speaker 4: Oh my fuck god, dude, that is the saddest shit 2786 01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:51,160 Speaker 4: I've ever seen. 2787 01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:52,760 Speaker 3: That guy who one looked way too young to be 2788 01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:54,920 Speaker 3: a grand he's like forty two year old grandpa right there, Luke. 2789 01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:56,920 Speaker 2: I know that happens, but dude, dude. 2790 01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:57,280 Speaker 1: Look at this. 2791 01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:01,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, the least impressive zombie pok. 2792 01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:03,439 Speaker 2: That guy in the hardball Walmart pants just went down hard, Luke. 2793 01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:05,800 Speaker 1: And dude, even the guy winning is just running like 2794 01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:06,519 Speaker 1: a fucking goof. 2795 01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:08,000 Speaker 3: Oh he's a lot older than I thought he was 2796 01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,280 Speaker 3: all right, let's keep the elder abuse going, Luke, be 2797 01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:11,719 Speaker 3: careful removing a tree. 2798 01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:13,559 Speaker 1: Hey, if you die in that race, do they just 2799 01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:14,400 Speaker 1: euthanize you right. 2800 01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:15,920 Speaker 2: Bare look I think so. 2801 01:54:16,160 --> 01:54:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh. 2802 01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,639 Speaker 2: Look, the bad news is will never conceive children, and 2803 01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:22,519 Speaker 2: the good news is, uh, he had a good run 2804 01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:22,840 Speaker 2: in life. 2805 01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:24,960 Speaker 4: Luke, it's over though, But that tree was like, I'm 2806 01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:26,680 Speaker 4: gonna get the last laugh here, Jeff Rowe. 2807 01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go over to the birthday party pinata. Nothing 2808 01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:31,719 Speaker 3: bad can happen here with old people in a stick 2809 01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:32,320 Speaker 3: and a blind. 2810 01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they just these fucking people. 2811 01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:40,200 Speaker 3: Oh all right, we knocked the pinata down. Let's get 2812 01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,680 Speaker 3: the blindfold off people. This could get dangerous. Let's let's 2813 01:54:42,760 --> 01:54:44,080 Speaker 3: let's take charge here at Grandma. 2814 01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:45,480 Speaker 2: Can you come in and fix the situation? 2815 01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:49,040 Speaker 4: Oh god, oh fucking god. 2816 01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:57,000 Speaker 1: Do you expect, Granny? 2817 01:54:57,040 --> 01:54:59,280 Speaker 2: What do you expect? I mean, you try to dance 2818 01:54:59,320 --> 01:54:59,840 Speaker 2: on a video? 2819 01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,200 Speaker 3: Gonna get Oh, speaking of Granny's dancing, let's go to 2820 01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:02,560 Speaker 3: the next one. 2821 01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:04,200 Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, I want to say, oh no, no, no, no, no, 2822 01:55:04,200 --> 01:55:06,000 Speaker 4: no, no no no, I gotta see that last one. Just 2823 01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:07,880 Speaker 4: fast forward to the end. If you can't just play 2824 01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:09,400 Speaker 4: it out, Just just play it out. I want to 2825 01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:11,760 Speaker 4: the full screen, please, I gotta see this. I gotta 2826 01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:15,200 Speaker 4: see this. Dude, she fucking wrapped that thing around her 2827 01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:20,960 Speaker 4: fucking skull. I mean, it's a bunch of whites playing 2828 01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:23,920 Speaker 4: this music. You know, I'm not sure how racist has. 2829 01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:25,280 Speaker 2: Not got white people so badly. 2830 01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:29,160 Speaker 4: They just do it is okay, okay, lady oh, no, oh, god, lady, 2831 01:55:29,240 --> 01:55:30,080 Speaker 4: lady bah. 2832 01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:34,280 Speaker 2: Even that guy held his head hold a well, Luke. 2833 01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:37,360 Speaker 2: Granny's are trying to do TikTok dances too. Sometimes those 2834 01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:41,160 Speaker 2: end good, and sometimes you end up on this show. 2835 01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:44,120 Speaker 1: With the lady who just got her head fucking Oh 2836 01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:44,600 Speaker 1: that cat. 2837 01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:48,760 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, you can't do a spin a standing 2838 01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:50,840 Speaker 2: spin at after above age sixty five? 2839 01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:51,760 Speaker 1: Right, you're going down? Yeah? 2840 01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:54,960 Speaker 4: And also okay, can you take the tags off your clothes? 2841 01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:55,480 Speaker 1: All right? 2842 01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:56,600 Speaker 2: Thank you very much? 2843 01:55:56,640 --> 01:55:59,960 Speaker 3: Almost done here. This was the combat moment of the week. 2844 01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,560 Speaker 3: Luke comes at a BJJ tournament. I'm not sure if 2845 01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:05,480 Speaker 3: this is legal, but Big Van Vader Rip must be 2846 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,440 Speaker 3: a huge fan of list. 2847 01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's decidedly not. 2848 01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,440 Speaker 3: People are like, we need more pro wrestling vibes in 2849 01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:14,400 Speaker 3: all combat sports. 2850 01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:14,960 Speaker 2: This guy's like I. 2851 01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:19,720 Speaker 1: Got you lose. That's decidedly not okay? 2852 01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:20,160 Speaker 6: All right? 2853 01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:21,440 Speaker 2: Is that? Is there a penalty involved? 2854 01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:23,400 Speaker 1: Automatic to squealth? Okay? Okay? 2855 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:28,400 Speaker 2: And finally, Luke, one bite everybody knows the rules? 2856 01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:42,919 Speaker 4: Oh god, okay, I should have taken him to prom Thank. 2857 01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,680 Speaker 2: You very much. That's the ship. Mikey texted in. He's 2858 01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:49,200 Speaker 2: Mikey's of a young age, still right thirty. He says 2859 01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:53,760 Speaker 2: that Craig Jones comment means yes, yes, yeah. 2860 01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:55,080 Speaker 1: Knows beers. Yeah, I mean, what if I don't know 2861 01:56:55,120 --> 01:56:56,680 Speaker 1: what's cool anymore? Look up? 2862 01:56:57,000 --> 01:56:59,800 Speaker 3: Is a either a style or a brand of beers 2863 01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,320 Speaker 3: that is NSC which it's probably no. 2864 01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:04,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that the uh n O S? 2865 01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're talking he's talking. 2866 01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:08,760 Speaker 1: About there's the energy drink nas. 2867 01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:12,040 Speaker 2: There is that, There is that, there's ns all right. 2868 01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,600 Speaker 2: That's all the ship I could fit in this Friday show. Luke, 2869 01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:17,480 Speaker 2: we will be here Saturday night, not here, but in 2870 01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:18,040 Speaker 2: a while. 2871 01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:22,080 Speaker 4: Oh strap, Luke, you you made a big show of this. 2872 01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:26,120 Speaker 2: Strap sisn right man down right. July twenty ninth, coming up. 2873 01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:27,480 Speaker 2: Here's what I'll say, Luke. 2874 01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,680 Speaker 3: We will have a UFC two ninety live postfight show 2875 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:34,680 Speaker 3: from Atlantic City, from the Hotel Okay Saturday night. We 2876 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,839 Speaker 3: will also be calling the prelims seven thirty pm Eastern 2877 01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:39,920 Speaker 3: Showtime Sports YouTube channel. 2878 01:57:40,200 --> 01:57:40,600 Speaker 1: Right here. 2879 01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:42,600 Speaker 2: This is what it's all about, the gold. 2880 01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:44,480 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, Luke, I might bring 2881 01:57:44,480 --> 01:57:45,720 Speaker 1: a belt like that home to tu Key. 2882 01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:47,960 Speaker 2: You can you can bring this home to Tukey. 2883 01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you tell her it's from Uncle Gringo though 2884 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:50,440 Speaker 1: I can't. 2885 01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:55,360 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I still love wrestling, Luke. They ruined it. 2886 01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:58,040 Speaker 2: Maybe I maybe I got ruined, you know what I mean? 2887 01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:00,800 Speaker 1: There it is, there, it is. That's what it's all about. 2888 01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:02,960 Speaker 2: For that, you know, ten pounds of gold right there. 2889 01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:04,080 Speaker 1: That's strap. 2890 01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,760 Speaker 3: Thank you to our fine people behind the scenes running 2891 01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:11,440 Speaker 3: this show Long Island, Luke Gaff among them, Mikey Morms. 2892 01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:15,040 Speaker 2: Luke Thomas will be in ac this weekend. Do you 2893 01:58:15,080 --> 01:58:17,720 Speaker 2: expect anybody to come shout out MK in person. 2894 01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,080 Speaker 1: On the boxing side? Yeah, no, we're not doing a. 2895 01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:24,720 Speaker 2: Live show in Lang City from the boardwalk. I wanted 2896 01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:25,640 Speaker 2: to be in Vegas this week. 2897 01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:29,800 Speaker 3: It didn't work out corporately, unfortunately, but I do hope 2898 01:58:29,800 --> 01:58:31,480 Speaker 3: to do a live show again one day and meet 2899 01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:33,840 Speaker 3: our fans. Not like open MOUs kiss them or anything, 2900 01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:36,440 Speaker 3: but like Boston maybe or maybe we'll wait till next year. 2901 01:58:36,440 --> 01:58:37,520 Speaker 2: We've got to get some shit figured out. 2902 01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to get some shit figured out. But yes, 2903 01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:40,600 Speaker 1: I would like to do that as well. 2904 01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:42,480 Speaker 4: Again, I always say it, you guys kind of poopoo it, 2905 01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,200 Speaker 4: but I've done them before, like after weigh ins of 2906 01:58:45,240 --> 01:58:48,080 Speaker 4: big events, get dude, tweet up people. 2907 01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:48,920 Speaker 1: Fucking here's the thing. 2908 01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:51,640 Speaker 3: You hate people, You're leary of our fans, but you're like, 2909 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,480 Speaker 3: let's have a tweet off and let's Claire. 2910 01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:56,800 Speaker 4: You get this idea that like, because I don't open 2911 01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:58,520 Speaker 4: mouth kiss them the way that you do. 2912 01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:01,520 Speaker 1: Like I've been do you. 2913 01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:03,000 Speaker 4: Anybody who's ever listened to my show, who's been to 2914 01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:04,560 Speaker 4: a tweet up? A test to the fact that it's 2915 01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:05,720 Speaker 4: just utter bullshit. 2916 01:59:05,480 --> 01:59:07,600 Speaker 2: You do when you stand in line, the receiving line 2917 01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:08,040 Speaker 2: you like the. 2918 01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:10,760 Speaker 3: Post every fucking yeah you do deliver, you deliver, and 2919 01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:12,800 Speaker 3: your line, Luke, is way longer than mine. 2920 01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:16,000 Speaker 1: Only it would be the opposite in boxing, the opposite. 2921 01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,040 Speaker 4: But what I'm trying to make is I even if 2922 01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:20,320 Speaker 4: we can't do a live show the next time we're 2923 01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:22,880 Speaker 4: out live somewhere, we gotta do at a bare minimum, 2924 01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:24,360 Speaker 4: at a bare minimum, A tweet up? 2925 01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:26,840 Speaker 1: All right, they will post, trust me. 2926 01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:28,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to be the last one to know 2927 01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:30,680 Speaker 2: that this show has already hit its peak. It's zenith. 2928 01:59:30,920 --> 01:59:32,000 Speaker 2: Is it all downhill from here? 2929 01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:32,680 Speaker 1: Or do we probably? 2930 01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:34,360 Speaker 2: Or do we have another big run in US? 2931 01:59:35,760 --> 01:59:36,920 Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out soon. 2932 01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:40,400 Speaker 2: Are we like Kevin Lee? Unfortunately? Look all right? Are 2933 01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:41,520 Speaker 2: we always gonna talk? 2934 01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:41,960 Speaker 1: All four? 2935 01:59:42,240 --> 01:59:44,280 Speaker 2: Look back to that day we had that staph infection 2936 01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:45,960 Speaker 2: and almost won a world tight? I love that guy. 2937 01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:46,880 Speaker 2: That hurt me a lot. 2938 01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, that sucks. That was the least favorite this night. 2939 01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:51,200 Speaker 1: All right, all right? 2940 01:59:51,480 --> 01:59:53,760 Speaker 2: How many Delta eights will be in your system on 2941 01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:54,600 Speaker 2: the car right table? 2942 01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:54,760 Speaker 9: Oh? 2943 01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:58,840 Speaker 4: Not just Delta eight's best. Look at me and be 2944 01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:02,560 Speaker 4: very honest. I don't want an answer. I'm going to 2945 02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,280 Speaker 4: ask it. Don't answer it is about it? 2946 02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Search history? Hold no, no, no, no, I'm going to ask 2947 02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:07,000 Speaker 1: you a question. 2948 02:00:07,480 --> 02:00:08,880 Speaker 4: Keep it in your head, and then on the count 2949 02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,880 Speaker 4: of three, I'm going to say, go, okay, ready, are 2950 02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:15,880 Speaker 4: you going to stop at the downstairs taco bell before 2951 02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:17,520 Speaker 4: we travel to our next destination? 2952 02:00:18,320 --> 02:00:18,480 Speaker 1: No? 2953 02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:19,960 Speaker 2: You and I are sharing a car, aren't we? 2954 02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Yes? 2955 02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:22,280 Speaker 2: You better not eat Taco Bell before that. That's a 2956 02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:22,840 Speaker 2: long ride. 2957 02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:25,200 Speaker 1: Put the camera on me. Put the camera on me. 2958 02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:31,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to Taco Bell, extra beans, mass, pretty. 2959 02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:37,520 Speaker 2: Holes, all right? For Luke Thomas is colon. I'm Brian Campbell. 2960 02:00:37,560 --> 02:00:40,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us here. Thank you for following. Subscriber. 2961 02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:42,400 Speaker 4: I had a bunch of beers on July fourth, and 2962 02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:43,600 Speaker 4: I had diarrhea afterwards. 2963 02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,360 Speaker 1: Those be No, I had regular beers. Send it beer, 2964 02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:47,280 Speaker 1: it's a DC beer. 2965 02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:47,920 Speaker 6: Uh. 2966 02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:50,800 Speaker 4: I had diarrhea the next day. I haven't had diarrhea, 2967 02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:52,440 Speaker 4: and so long from drinking, I forgot that. 2968 02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:52,840 Speaker 1: You get that. 2969 02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:53,280 Speaker 2: I love that. 2970 02:00:53,680 --> 02:00:55,480 Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, I love that you threw the asterisk 2971 02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:57,520 Speaker 3: from drinking. Because I've been a part of at least 2972 02:00:57,680 --> 02:00:59,600 Speaker 3: multiple conference calls zoom meetings. 2973 02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:00,640 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm drinking. 2974 02:01:00,680 --> 02:01:03,000 Speaker 3: Sorry, guys, don't want to do this, but you know, 2975 02:01:03,080 --> 02:01:06,120 Speaker 3: I'm having what can only be described as an explosive 2976 02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:07,080 Speaker 3: shit attack right now. 2977 02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,360 Speaker 1: So I'll be leaving this meeting early and I'll catch 2978 02:01:09,400 --> 02:01:11,200 Speaker 1: you guys on the other end. It's actually a very 2979 02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:13,320 Speaker 1: good impression. It's actually really good. 2980 02:01:13,840 --> 02:01:15,640 Speaker 2: If I could be so candid, you know, the upper 2981 02:01:15,680 --> 02:01:18,400 Speaker 2: bottod limits of my shittake. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 2982 02:01:19,960 --> 02:01:22,800 Speaker 2: Morning Combat Dot merch Store. What is that Morning Combat 2983 02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:23,280 Speaker 2: Dot Store. 2984 02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:28,760 Speaker 1: We're going to relaunch some shits Morning Combat Dot Store. 2985 02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,560 Speaker 2: You could be wearing this on the golf links, Luke. 2986 02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:33,360 Speaker 2: It looks like I have moves with this. I've been lifting. 2987 02:01:33,480 --> 02:01:35,200 Speaker 4: You look great, all right, but you gotta do the 2988 02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:36,520 Speaker 4: Jackson wink nippletweak things. 2989 02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:39,440 Speaker 3: So my wife told me that I have an unacceptable 2990 02:01:39,440 --> 02:01:40,880 Speaker 3: amount of gray hair and I look like an old 2991 02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:41,400 Speaker 3: piece of crab. 2992 02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:42,480 Speaker 1: What does she say about me? 2993 02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:44,720 Speaker 4: Seriously, Not that she ever talks about me much, but 2994 02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:47,160 Speaker 4: she must see my face on occasion, and she must 2995 02:01:47,160 --> 02:01:48,040 Speaker 4: have had a comment about it. 2996 02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:48,840 Speaker 2: She's not mean like that. 2997 02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:50,640 Speaker 1: She's only mean to me because she's my best friend 2998 02:01:50,640 --> 02:01:52,280 Speaker 1: in the world, and she's honest. I don't think you 2999 02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:54,240 Speaker 1: have unacceptable great at well, I'll give you. 3000 02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:56,800 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. Okay, three days ago I 3001 02:01:56,920 --> 02:01:58,920 Speaker 2: dyed my hair. But it doesn't look like I did. 3002 02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Let me see. I was gonna say, actually, looks pretty good. 3003 02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Oh it does. Okay, it looks pretty good. 3004 02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:05,280 Speaker 2: It's calming through on some air. 3005 02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:07,400 Speaker 4: You know what kills you though, And I have it too, honestly, 3006 02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:09,840 Speaker 4: But I have actually have a man beard, and you 3007 02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:10,280 Speaker 4: have I have. 3008 02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:13,960 Speaker 3: Shooty, Okay, here's why I don't. As a forty four 3009 02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:16,120 Speaker 3: year old man. I'll be turning forty five this month, Luke. 3010 02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:17,520 Speaker 3: I just wanted to get it, get you ahead of that. 3011 02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,000 Speaker 3: I don't have a skinny enough face these days to 3012 02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:22,520 Speaker 3: not have a beard, I don't think, Luke. 3013 02:02:23,200 --> 02:02:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're all Anyone who has a beard 3014 02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:25,560 Speaker 1: is covering for something. 3015 02:02:25,640 --> 02:02:28,160 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, usually small manhood. But luckily for us, Luke, 3016 02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:30,680 Speaker 3: that's not the case. I hope, I think. I mean, 3017 02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:35,480 Speaker 3: that's not You're so fucking weird, it's unbelievable. 3018 02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. What I was gonna say was, you know what 3019 02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:39,600 Speaker 1: kills you turn that way? 3020 02:02:40,360 --> 02:02:43,920 Speaker 4: You've got enough hair there, but because it's so light colored, 3021 02:02:44,000 --> 02:02:47,240 Speaker 4: it actually blends in and it's hard to see. So 3022 02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,760 Speaker 4: what you actually do have enough, but just not of 3023 02:02:49,760 --> 02:02:53,160 Speaker 4: the right color. So I feel like your hair it's Luke. 3024 02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:56,200 Speaker 2: And first of all, we're gonna miss everybody. I'm gonna 3025 02:02:56,200 --> 02:02:57,360 Speaker 2: miss e body. 3026 02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:00,160 Speaker 4: This this camera lady who is new here today. She 3027 02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,720 Speaker 4: seems quite wonderful. She's been standing the entire time. And 3028 02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:04,880 Speaker 4: then also like like having to just like there's no 3029 02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:06,960 Speaker 4: chair there. Oh, so she's been like am I am 3030 02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:08,760 Speaker 4: I wrong? She's been like squatting the whole time, and 3031 02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:10,600 Speaker 4: I have felt so fucking terrible for that. 3032 02:03:10,640 --> 02:03:12,840 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we couldn't get her a chair because 3033 02:03:12,920 --> 02:03:15,040 Speaker 2: like our normal camera guys, she'll be in a recliner 3034 02:03:15,160 --> 02:03:17,640 Speaker 2: on her phone on playing Angry Birds. For the real dude, 3035 02:03:17,720 --> 02:03:20,240 Speaker 2: she's been listening. No, she's been like a wild Yes. 3036 02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:22,120 Speaker 4: I almost wanted her to go to Angry Birds. I'm like, 3037 02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:23,960 Speaker 4: this is the part where we watch people hit elderly 3038 02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:24,640 Speaker 4: people in the face. 3039 02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:26,839 Speaker 1: To close on my poor visage. 3040 02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:28,920 Speaker 2: I think I'm at the crossroads of either going all 3041 02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:31,160 Speaker 2: gray and letting it go and just being a wash 3042 02:03:31,200 --> 02:03:33,160 Speaker 2: piece of shit, or you know, trying to keep the 3043 02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:34,440 Speaker 2: marriage but pure. 3044 02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:35,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Luke, Okay, it's a little 3045 02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:38,160 Speaker 1: more information than I care to learn, but I wouln't 3046 02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:39,800 Speaker 1: talk about like role playing or anything weird like that. 3047 02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:41,520 Speaker 4: Like my wife, my wife, You know what do my 3048 02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:44,240 Speaker 4: wife dies her hair like not like it's natural color, 3049 02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:45,240 Speaker 4: share dies in like every. 3050 02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:47,160 Speaker 1: I think every woman does, right, does. 3051 02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:48,840 Speaker 6: No? 3052 02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:54,880 Speaker 1: It's okay. Has every woman I've ever dated dyed their hair? No? No, 3053 02:03:54,960 --> 02:03:56,480 Speaker 1: but most of them did most. 3054 02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:59,160 Speaker 3: Have you ever dated somebody substantially older than you like 3055 02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:01,200 Speaker 3: you were at the Zuola and for some Kugars you 3056 02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:01,760 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. 3057 02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:02,720 Speaker 1: No, I've never done that. 3058 02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:05,960 Speaker 4: I have dated people that were substantially better looking than me, 3059 02:04:05,960 --> 02:04:07,120 Speaker 4: which is not a high threshold. 3060 02:04:07,160 --> 02:04:10,520 Speaker 2: But okay, how about substantially younger? 3061 02:04:11,280 --> 02:04:14,920 Speaker 4: No, No, never more than two or three years support 3062 02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:15,600 Speaker 4: one way or the other. 3063 02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:17,280 Speaker 1: Very safe, very yeah. Yeah. 3064 02:04:17,320 --> 02:04:20,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, But as Lucia, I've never understood the guys who are, 3065 02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:22,800 Speaker 4: like I can understand being fifty and then wanting to, like, 3066 02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:24,920 Speaker 4: you know, have a fling with someone a girl who's 3067 02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:25,360 Speaker 4: twenty five. 3068 02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, I've never understood guys who. 3069 02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:32,160 Speaker 4: Were like in their fifties who like wanted You're in 3070 02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:34,320 Speaker 4: a completely different part of your life than someone who's 3071 02:04:34,360 --> 02:04:37,920 Speaker 4: twenty five. Like, it's not going to be awesome conversation. 3072 02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:39,240 Speaker 4: I don't know who cares. 3073 02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:41,480 Speaker 2: Hey, that new Portugal the Man album is changing my life. 3074 02:04:41,480 --> 02:04:42,040 Speaker 1: It's so good. 3075 02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:43,200 Speaker 2: Will you listen to it at all? 3076 02:04:44,240 --> 02:04:44,960 Speaker 1: How about I'm making it. 3077 02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:46,880 Speaker 2: It's called Chris Black changed my life? Will you will 3078 02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:47,560 Speaker 2: you listen to it at all? 3079 02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Okay? 3080 02:04:48,040 --> 02:04:50,080 Speaker 4: On one condition, yes, we have to listen to the 3081 02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:52,760 Speaker 4: new Cattle Decapitation album terribly Okay. 3082 02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:53,080 Speaker 1: I will do that. 3083 02:04:53,160 --> 02:04:55,520 Speaker 3: And actually John Gorley, lead singer Portugal, the man who 3084 02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:56,520 Speaker 3: listened watches this show. 3085 02:04:56,520 --> 02:04:58,240 Speaker 2: Shout out to JBG over there. 3086 02:04:58,480 --> 02:05:01,280 Speaker 3: He actually said that you and him would get along 3087 02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,840 Speaker 3: in music because he comes from metal. He said he 3088 02:05:04,280 --> 02:05:06,839 Speaker 3: at college, he walked in on his who became his bandmates, 3089 02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:10,080 Speaker 3: his guitarist and bassis. They were playing Pantera and Cannibal 3090 02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:12,640 Speaker 3: Corpse songs as you were walking by. And he also 3091 02:05:12,680 --> 02:05:15,000 Speaker 3: said John said his first concert was was Pantera? 3092 02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:15,520 Speaker 2: Really? 3093 02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:15,840 Speaker 1: Yes? 3094 02:05:16,160 --> 02:05:18,680 Speaker 2: Yes, So why don't you come on board to this 3095 02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:19,080 Speaker 2: side of it? 3096 02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:19,400 Speaker 1: All right? 3097 02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:21,760 Speaker 4: All right, I'll give it a truck. They just played 3098 02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:23,800 Speaker 4: them dc uh, they did it. I think it was 3099 02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:25,640 Speaker 4: a big big to do. I would give it a truck. 3100 02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:26,320 Speaker 4: I'll give it a truck. 3101 02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Okay. 3102 02:05:26,520 --> 02:05:28,200 Speaker 2: Maybe when I went okay, bet, that's what we'll end 3103 02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:29,960 Speaker 2: up at PTM. All right, shout out. 3104 02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:32,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna go to You're gonna go to Gorguts with me, 3105 02:05:32,360 --> 02:05:33,720 Speaker 1: Gorgut vomitory, have. 3106 02:05:33,640 --> 02:05:35,320 Speaker 2: A goorgasm at Gorguts or what? 3107 02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:38,600 Speaker 3: All right, that's about enough of this bullshit, uh Luke 3108 02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:40,200 Speaker 3: Thomas Brown Campbell, thank you. 3109 02:05:40,360 --> 02:05:42,160 Speaker 2: We'll see you this week and enjoy the Fight's a 3110 02:05:42,160 --> 02:05:44,120 Speaker 2: great weekend. Two ninety For all the crap we said 3111 02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:46,120 Speaker 2: about data, two ninety is going to punch you right 3112 02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:47,400 Speaker 2: in the face. Enjoy it. 3113 02:05:47,600 --> 02:05:51,120 Speaker 3: Saturday night tripleheader on Showtime Championship Boxing as well, nine 3114 02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:52,840 Speaker 3: thirty pm Eastern, Doron. 3115 02:05:53,000 --> 02:05:53,800 Speaker 1: You gotta see boots on it. 3116 02:05:53,840 --> 02:05:55,560 Speaker 2: You got to freaking sea boots on this. But the 3117 02:05:55,560 --> 02:05:57,360 Speaker 2: big question is do you want to see b C 3118 02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:01,680 Speaker 2: lt and Stack five Stephen Jackson on the prelimbs ringside 3119 02:06:02,280 --> 02:06:03,839 Speaker 2: seven thirty Eastern Post. 3120 02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:06,120 Speaker 4: Fight show, Post fight Show, UFC two ninety BC A 3121 02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:06,640 Speaker 4: night together. 3122 02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:07,560 Speaker 1: Don't miss it, all right? 3123 02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:10,000 Speaker 2: Look, remember Hulk Hogan had twenty four inch pythons. 3124 02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:12,040 Speaker 3: I'm an old, forty four year old piece of shit 3125 02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:13,200 Speaker 3: who does curls in my basement. 3126 02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:15,120 Speaker 2: Would you give me twelve inch pythons? Would you give 3127 02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:15,680 Speaker 2: me twelve inch? 3128 02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:18,640 Speaker 1: Hey? It's pretty good. What would you give me on there? 3129 02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:19,520 Speaker 1: How many inches? 3130 02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:20,480 Speaker 4: Um? 3131 02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:23,360 Speaker 2: You think? Do you think that the drapes match the 3132 02:06:23,360 --> 02:06:24,080 Speaker 2: carpeting in terms of. 3133 02:06:24,280 --> 02:06:26,600 Speaker 1: Okay in this fucking show? Absolutely? 3134 02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:29,720 Speaker 2: Sorry, hrs here it was great. We're out of here 3135 02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:29,920 Speaker 2: thinking 3136 02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:31,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna get fucking fired.