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My guess 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: is the co founder or fine jewelry company that she's 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: gonna tell you in a minute, because I don't want 11 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: to mess up the name. It's an innovative etailer that 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: if you've been reading, if you google it, it's popping 13 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: up everywhere. They transform the fire jewelry sector with a 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: lifetime buy back promise. Did you hear what I said? 15 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: A lifetime buy back promise. This allows consumers to sell 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 1: back their gold jewelry for cash or credit anytime at 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: market value with just one click. Please, she's here to 18 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: tell us all about it. Please Welcome to the Money 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: Making Conversation and master Class. Nitty sing the How are 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: you doing, Nitty? 21 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: I'm very good? Thanks for having me first. 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: Of all, where are you calling from. 23 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: I'm calling from Palo Alta, California. 24 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: West Coast, West Coast, West coast. Tell me when you 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: say jewelry, you know watches can be jewelry, ear rings, rings, necklaces, 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: jew as a couplelinks you know to be considered jewelry. 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: So when you say jewelry, please help me out with 28 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: that definition first. 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: So currently, in the narrow definition, jewelry is basically whatever 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: you wear like you know, metal wise, or it could 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: be it could be a fine jewelry, or it could 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: be fashion jewelry, but anything that you were to feel good, 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: look good, and it could be an emotional statement that 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: you're wearing. What Sonore wants to. 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: Do with which is the name of your company? 36 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: That's the name of a company. Yes, we want to 37 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: turn this emotional statement into a financial statement as well. 38 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: You're wearing your wealth when you're wearing jewelry. 39 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: Wow, I never saw it that way. So if I 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: buy the right coupling, I can wear my wealth as 41 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: well as wear a jewelry because I never saw I'll 42 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I never saw jewelry as an 43 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: investment in my mind. You know, I think of a 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: home as an investment, maybe a car. I think of 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: stock of course as an investment land, but I never 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: saw jewelry as an investment. I know it is possible. 47 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: I saw goal as an investment. So what is wrong 48 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: with my mindset not seeing what you're seeing? 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. You know, when we think jewelry, we 50 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: always think beautiful or emotional, and never investment that can 51 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: make us money. But at son Lore, what we are 52 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: doing is we're selling beautiful jewelry that can actually make 53 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: you money. So gold went up forty last year, and 54 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: if you were to buy a necklace from son Alor, 55 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: you could actually sell it back to us and make 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: a profit on it. 57 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Now, really help me out there, because you know, 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: you actually sell the jewelry. So, because I'm just trying 59 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: to get a sense of the brand because I went 60 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: on the website, I'm looking around and people are hearing 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: this for the first time, and so I don't want 62 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: to throw any confusion. So walk us through your brand first, Nitdi, 63 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: and then we'll go into the next step. Because I 64 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: started with the broad conversation about what is jewelry. Now 65 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: let's get back to your company and your format and 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: the way people can benefit from how you're presenting it 67 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: with this like time buy back guarantee. 68 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: Perfect. So son Alor offers eighteen carried gold jewelry, and 69 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: this is jewel read that you can wear and enjoy, 70 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: and then if there is a time when you want 71 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: to either upgrade or switch it out, you can sell 72 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: it back to us at market prices of gold. So 73 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: wear it, enjoy it. Eighteen carded gold, very premium jewelry, 74 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: and then you can track it and sell it like 75 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: an investment. So what happened, I'll give you a little 76 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: bit background. So what happens is when you buy jewelry 77 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 2: at any other jeweler, there is about two hundred to 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: five hundred percent markup on the gold value that is 79 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: in the jewelry. So say you have you buy something 80 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: for five hundred dollars, you only have about one hundred 81 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: dollars worth of gold in. 82 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: It, right, Right, that's why they went from jewelry. Right 83 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: there is that way, Okay, but. 84 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: That's not how it's supposed to be. Right, It's supposed 85 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: to be gold. Then you obviously have some markup for 86 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: like the artisans actually working on it, and then you 87 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: sell it and I know I might be describing an 88 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: alien concept, but this concept actually exists in Asia. This 89 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: is how jewelry is sold in Asia, with gold at 90 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: its center and then a premium on top of it. 91 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: And jewelry is seen as an investment in Asia, and 92 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: it is seen as part of your work. That is 93 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: the concept we're trying to bring to the United States. 94 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: We want to make every woman, for sure and few 95 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: men an investor in gold through jewelry. 96 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just talk about my community. You know, 97 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm African American person of color, and you look at 98 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: music videos and jewelry has always been seen as to 99 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: me as bling blain, which means that technically not an investment, 100 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: just a showpiece show people you have money to show 101 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: people you got to going on. And I think that's 102 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: the level of education I've had with jewelry. I never saw, 103 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: Like I clearly know that I can buy stock in Apple, 104 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: I can buy stock and IBM or Intel. But because I, 105 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: throughout my life have been presented with jewelry as an 106 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: item of decoration in music videos, which dominated a large 107 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: part of my life, as blame and a show piece 108 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: that has miscalculated to me in this direction. Is it 109 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: only in my community. I shouldn't say general just with 110 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: Sean McDonald's vision. I don't want to make a sweeping 111 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: generalization for my entire community. But that's the education that 112 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: you have to break through right now, is letting people 113 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: know in general my community as well as other communities 114 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: about the investment opportunities in jewelry. Now it's just something 115 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: you wear, correct. 116 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: That's absolutely right and question. I think there are a 117 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: time where this education might be easy year than other 118 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 2: times because gold is at an all time high, and 119 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: last year we had so many meals items where Costco 120 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: was selling out of gold bars right right, So people 121 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 2: know that gold has value, goal is an investment item, 122 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: even for like normal people and not just big investors anymore. 123 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: So what we are saying is gold is gold, right 124 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: cold is part of your jewelry as well. Let's start 125 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: seeing it as something that you value. One other thing 126 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up is bond shops, right. 127 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: I was going to go to pawn shops too. Now, 128 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: before we go to pawn shop, let me talk about 129 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: you for a minute. You're young. Okay, there's another stereotype 130 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out there. I would think that a 131 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: person who's in the jewelry business who's providing the opportunity 132 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: to buy jewelry from your company is rich? Or have 133 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: an investor who has a lot of money. Am I 134 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: saying the wrong things when I talk to you, nitty? 135 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: Or how did you establish this company to be in 136 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: a position to be an etailer for us to come 137 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: to you by jewelry and attach a life time by 138 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: back guarantee. 139 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: So I'll give you my background. I do have a 140 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: Ivy League education. I have worked in different big and 141 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: small companies in the past, so I'm bringing definitely a 142 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: lot of experience to the table. Now money portion. I 143 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: think I've put in the hard work in my life 144 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: to buy myself a few years to actually pursue this 145 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: business opportunity, which I think I'm very passionate about. Again, 146 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: the mission is to make every woman an investor in gold. 147 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: So that's how I see it from investment point of view. 148 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 2: Not very crazily funded. We're not a Silicon valley, you know, startup. 149 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: PC's and all that venture capitalists in pushing your brain. 150 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: I won't see you on short tank. I won't see 151 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: you on short tank. 152 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: That'd be great, that'd be good publicity. Yeah, but we 153 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 2: right now, we're we have some money, but we are 154 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: you know, spending every dollar very wisely. The majority of 155 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: our money is going into the education piece that you 156 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,359 Speaker 2: mentioned and then just giving customers a very good experience. 157 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: Right now, let's get back to pawn shops because that 158 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: was the first thing that came in the mind. When 159 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: you have jewelry, you think of some value. Let me 160 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: just tell you I, because we're talking about goal can 161 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: we talk about diamonds, Can we talk about pearls. We 162 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: can talk about all levels of jewel but let's talk 163 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: about pawn shops in general. You know what, I've never 164 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: seen them give you any value to your property, whether 165 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: it's a television, a television or or any device that 166 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: you wanted to come in and try to get some 167 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: money because you in a state of needing money. How 168 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: do you differ from a pawnshop when it talks about 169 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: buy back or buying or returning something. 170 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: So I want to start at the point where we 171 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 2: were talking about jewelry not being seen as an investment. Yes, 172 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: sown shop. The biggest category at pawn shops is goal 173 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: related things. So you know, maybe when we're buying jewelry, 174 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: We're not associating value investment, but if there is a 175 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: time in our life and we have to sell it, 176 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: we're definitely associating some value to it. Right. But now 177 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: what happens that pawn shops is, as you mentioned, the 178 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: experience is horrible, right, If you really really need to 179 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: go to a punch shop, that's when you would go 180 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: to a pawn shop. Otherwise no person would want to 181 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: go through that experience parking, walking in there, and then 182 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: you know, having that that entire or do you Pops 183 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: would give you about I would say thirty to forty 184 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 2: percent of the value, whereas at sonalor what we would 185 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: do is if you buy some jewelry from us and 186 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: you want to sell it back, we would take fifteen 187 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 2: percent as as charges on just you know, processing and 188 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 2: melting the metal, but we'll give you most of your 189 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: value back. 190 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Okay, cool, Please don't go anywhere. 191 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations master Class. 192 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations master Class, hosted 193 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 3: by Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass continues online at 194 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: money Making Conversations dot com and follow money making Conversations 195 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 196 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about we've been stuck on diamonds. Goal, 197 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: Let's talk about diamonds. Let's talk about pearls. I'm just 198 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: trying to expand myself. 199 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 3: In this whole. 200 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't own any diamonds. I've only owned it. I've 201 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: only right. And so what is the if you were 202 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: if you were talking about investments. Now that we're talking 203 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: about idiot investments, I'm a naive person. I'm coming to 204 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: you for advice. What would you tell me to do? 205 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: Ah, this is how you get into trouble. Diamonds are 206 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: not a very good investment. 207 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: Okay, why I hear diamonds a girl's best friend. That's 208 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: what the rumor is for sure. 209 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: But they're not the best investments because you know, like 210 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 2: we've all read about it, right, the Beers has the 211 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: power on pricing diamonds. What happens with diamonds is that 212 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: they're so marked up that when you actually go to 213 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: sell it back as a normal person, you get like, 214 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 2: I don't know twenty percent of what you paid for. 215 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Wow. 216 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: So that's why Goal, which is traded internationally, is a 217 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 2: way better investment than diamonds, but now we are changing 218 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: the dynamics and diamonds as well. The new concept of 219 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: lab diamonds, which is again fraction of the cost of 220 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: a natural diamond, is getting us back to the point 221 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 2: of like jury can be an investment because diamond now 222 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: will be a fraction of the cost in a necklace, 223 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: whereas it would be a huge portion of the cost 224 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: but natural. So lab diamonds are again changing that dynamic 225 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: and making true read more of an investment. 226 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Now there's some of us some questions. I'm 227 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna ask this question because I didn't know what can 228 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: you tell us about your exquisite green emerald line, specifically 229 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: that because I'm trying to find out what to go 230 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: there and buy, and then I saw the word exquisite 231 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: Woo emerald green talk to us about that. 232 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: So again, I think emeralds are rare, emeralds are beautiful, 233 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: And what we have done is we have created a 234 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: lot of unique jewelry pieces, both in natural emberals and 235 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: lap drown emeralds. So these are very high quality Columbian 236 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: green emeralds that you'll see in our eighteen catc could jewelry. 237 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: Now we're talking about consumers we're talking about at this 238 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: point in our life, you know, we're trying to put 239 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: the money in the right place. 240 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 241 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: So when I'm looking at gold, I'm looking at that 242 00:14:54,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: these are the things that I consider jewelry that have value. Pearls, diamonds, gold, 243 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: Am I missing anything? 244 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: I think you have rubies and sapphires? 245 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: But yes, okay, woo, you get deeper with me. That's 246 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: rubies after pearls and you saying sapphire. So I would 247 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: never have bought bought a ruby or considered buying a ruby, 248 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: never bought a sapphire, but I have bought pearls, I 249 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: have bought diamonds, and I have bought gold. Okay, Now, 250 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: when you start looking at your company and the model, 251 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: because you said Rashan, the way to go is gold, 252 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: is that the direction as a consumer trying to invest, 253 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: trying to grow their value with their dollar. Is that 254 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: the direction that you were pushing the go? 255 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so, and especially like high carded gold, right, 256 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: because that is more goal than anything else for a consumer. Right. 257 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: What I would say is if you're trying to buy cheldren, right, 258 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: just ensure that you're getting good value for your dollar. 259 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: Just ensure that you understand how much goal is in 260 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: there and that you're paying as for the amount of 261 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: wold you get. So that's what I would say, that 262 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: you know, buying jewelry is actually buying gold that you 263 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: can wear. 264 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: Right before I get to my next question about the 265 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: challenges and pain points consumer's face we're trying to sell 266 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: their jewelry, explain to us one more time in detail 267 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: the lifetime buy back guarantee. 268 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: Sure, so, I think as we mentioned right, like, say 269 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: you buy a necklace from so and Alrea. It's a 270 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: beautiful gold necklace. You bought it, you have enjoyed it, 271 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: you wore it to like parties and everything, and now 272 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: you want to upgrade it to something else. You want 273 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: to buy a Goal plus diamond necklace. So what you 274 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: can do is you go through your Sooner account. You'll 275 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 2: see a beautiful graph just like your Robinhood app, where 276 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: it will show the daily value of your necklace over 277 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 2: the past year. Oh wow, Yeah, it will also show 278 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 2: you that gold went up forty and you bought the 279 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: necklace at whatever one thousand dollars. 280 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: It's one thousand dollars and so on your app you'll 281 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: be able to see the value of your. 282 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: Necklace exactly every single day because gold moves every single day. 283 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, And so that allows you to make a 284 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: decision if you want to self your investment back to 285 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: your back to you guys exactly. Okay, Chris there, let's 286 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 1: talk about this. Okay. So I've boned in, went to 287 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: your side, brought me a gold necklace for one thousand dollars. 288 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: I've been watching it and tracking it hitler bumping the rod, 289 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: and there's at fifteen hundred dollars. Okay. Now what happens 290 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: when I want to bring it back to you and 291 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: I bought it for a thousand? Now how much can 292 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: I make off that necklace? First of all, I know 293 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to lose any value, correct, exactly? Okay, cool, 294 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 1: talk to me. 295 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: So now you like, you know, we're saying that the 296 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: goal went up, right, and now the necklace is say 297 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred or twelve hundred whatever, you know, good time. 298 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: You'll have a button on your account and you can 299 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: click sell, and then our team sends you an email 300 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: saying okay, you want to sell, you know, just confirming 301 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: this is the unit, and we send you a prepaid 302 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 2: shipping label. You should bust the necklace. We again see 303 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: tested that it's the real deal, and then we give 304 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: you an offer. 305 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: That they they say, hey, we won't test it. Okay, okay, 306 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: do cus. 307 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 2: And then an offer and that will be fifteen percent 308 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: lower than the value you see because again there. 309 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: Is so basically you're saying that that the if it's 310 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars, you paying me back to maybe fifteen 311 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: fifteen percent less than that. 312 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: That's right. 313 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. 314 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: I never thought of that. That concept is interesting. I 315 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: have to say, why haven't we seen that before? 316 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, the issue stems from that. The jewelry is so 317 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: marked up when you buy it. Can I imagine, right, 318 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 2: like your jeweler sells you something for a thousand dollars 319 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: and then they were to show you a graph of 320 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: your goal. They sold your goal of two hundred dollars 321 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: to begin with, so you'd just be mad to see that. Okay, 322 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: my necklace is worth two hundred dollars, right, So they will. 323 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: Never versus eight dollars price that you paid for. 324 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: Exactly, so they don't want to get into that. You 325 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: only realize when you actually go to a pawn shop. 326 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: Right, show breaks all your dreams down exactly. Okay, And 327 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm sad if I'm sounding like wow, you know because 328 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: the journey as we talk, you're educating me. And that 329 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: was the whole key for me bringing on the show 330 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: is to understand exactly, but to go to your app 331 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: or go to your site. You can track the value 332 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: of your jewelry that you purchased based on how it's 333 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: buying and selling in this situation goal and I see 334 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 1: why you're recommending gold because it's trackable. Every day you 335 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: can see your value go up and down, and it 336 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: becomes an investment, an investment that they can bring back 337 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: to you guys, which means that whatever it is is 338 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: going to be a fifteen percent charge to buy it 339 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: back at minimums. Mindus what you what the value is? 340 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 2: That's right? 341 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: Wow? 342 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: The current value? 343 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: So again, you think I can work for you? Nay? 344 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: You think I'm getting the Okay? Cool. Now let's get 345 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: to the question that I held off of the challenges 346 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: and pain points consumers face when trying to sell that 347 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: jewelry not to you guys, yea, the problems that they 348 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: have where do they go other than a pawnshop. 349 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: So no jewelry store right now offers your buy back guarantee. 350 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: Okay, no, no. 351 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: Other jeweler does that, so let's begin with that. So 352 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: there is no option for you to just go and 353 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: return it to the original person that you bought her from. 354 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: Now the options you have are like eBay, where it 355 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: can take forever and you really don't know who you're 356 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 2: selling to, or. 357 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: I'm just tell you this. You know, you should always 358 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: open up with that example about the being able to 359 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: see your jewelry and being able to watch its value grow, 360 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: using goal as an example, the light bulb went above 361 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: my head right there. I understand what you're saying investment, 362 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: because I've never known jewelry to be treated like that, 363 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: and I know when I go to a traditional store, 364 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: I'm probably buying an overpriced item. And I've went in 365 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: there with people I suppose to had the hookup or 366 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: knew the man behind the counter, the man, the man 367 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: hand behind the counter, and I still walked out of 368 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: there feeling I paid more than I should have paid 369 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: in this situation. Being a detailer, anybody who brings their products, 370 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: anybody who comes to you buys the product you said Rashwan. 371 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: They're not buying an overpriced item. Correct, that's right. 372 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: They know exactly what they're getting into because we'll give 373 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: you a breakdown of call. We'll give you the breakdown 374 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: of the gemstone cost, and we'll give you that this 375 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 2: is you know how much it costs us to bring 376 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 2: this piece to you because to be honest, like we 377 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: have costs to right import duties and packaging and all 378 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: of that. So we break it down very cleanly for 379 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: you right at the picnic and then every single day, 380 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: you know how much does it cost? 381 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. They're offering a lifetime bypack promise. I 382 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: say guarantee. They said lifetime buy back promise, and tell 383 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: them how they can reach out to you. To the 384 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: detail location of the website right now, nitty. 385 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 2: Sure, it's ww dot sona lore dot com so sooner 386 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: lor s O NA l O R. And we're on Instagram, 387 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: which is sooner lord dot Jewelry. 388 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: My friend. Thank you for educating me, and thank you 389 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: for I'm telling you know. I got a couple of links. 390 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: I just buy them because they're nice. I buy a 391 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: watch because I buy it because it's nice. I never 392 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: look at the idea of treating it as an investment, 393 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: because I only try to buy the most reasonly priced 394 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: thing that I see off the shelf. But you're telling me, Rashan, 395 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: go to your website and there's value there that can 396 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: be treated as an investment and then yes, it is 397 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: tied to a lifetime by back promise. 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