WEBVTT - Up/Down: NBA Scrimmages, Hawks Jerseys, Bol Bol 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:14.120 Welcome to No Dounks for Thursday, July twenty third. I'm 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:18.279 Testnalls alongside me in this zoom window. It's the bearded 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:24.119 one Tray Kirby Hey Hey, And of course it's the 0:00:24.160 --> 0:00:30.920 International Man, a mystery Lelis friend and the man making 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:32.720 the magic happen. It's JD. 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:33.400 Hello. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.239 There he is here. We are no j E. Skeets. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.560 He is in a cabin for a couple of days, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:40.160 just hanging. 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:45.360 Yeah, very fancy looking cabin. Some some exclusive views. 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:46.559 It looks like up there. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.640 He did tell us he was going glamping, so yeah, 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.360 it's it's it's lived up to the hype. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:55.360 So I far emphasis on the glam. It looks like, yeah, yeah. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.440 He's in glamping, like nice camping. He's not a tent. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.480 Well, so I thought that as well. So yeah, I thought, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.000 you know, he's in a cabin. I mean, that's not 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:05.840 even glamping. That's like staying in a hotel. 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.600 That's pretty nice. But he will be back on Monday. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:12.960 We do believe if he decides to come back from 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:17.520 that beautiful scenery he's at. We actually had some basketball guys. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.920 We've got a ton to get into the Hawk's new 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:28.080 Jersey's wedgies already day one of scrimmages. Again, it's wild. 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.200 We thought there would be uptick. We'll get into that. 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.160 We'll get into some fishing, of course, got to trade. 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:38.120 Just did some serious fishing this past week. Alex Caruso 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.560 missing his sister's wedding to stay in the bubble because 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.399 he wants to win a title. But first, I don't know, 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.119 we might start with the actual basketball and to do that, 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:57.280 it's time for the up down report. It was crazy 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:00.520 to see ten grown men on a basket ball floor 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.760 running up and down for the first time in four months. 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:07.000 Is just a scrimmage, but it had Twitter going all crazy. 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.160 It was the look in the field that we were 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.480 all sort of worried about, concerned about, thinking about. And 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.600 the actual game start on July thirtieth, but I imagine 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.640 the look in the field will be quite similar. So 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.160 just to quickly set the scene before we go up 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.440 and down on the field. If you're looking at it 0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.480 from the main camera where we always watch basketball from. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.440 Huge NBA logo at logo at mid court, black Lives 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:35.320 Matter written above it across center court, huge plexiglass in 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.760 front of the scorer's table where the PA announcer is 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.280 and all the employees are, and they're socially distanced in there. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.240 Watch out for Alf Samuelson. He'll throw you into the boards, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:44.120 no doubt about it. 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:48.280 Yes, wild looking. Lots of space on the sideline. It's 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.960 blank right now, no team names or anything. The team 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.400 names are all along video boards along the side. Lots 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.239 of space on the baseline. There was some music. There 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.320 are some sounds being thrown in there. So let's to 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:04.040 it up or down on the NBA bubble Viewing Experience tray. 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:04.880 What'd you think of it? 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.320 Oh, I'm up. The NBA is back. 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.840 It was great just being able to watch basketball. It's different. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.480 All the things you described, tasks, you know, things I 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.639 think kind of trended towards the generic side. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:18.519 Look wise. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.639 You know, there's no paint basically on the court anywhere. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:23.480 You know, they could have painted the lane black, they 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:24.920 could have painted it red, they could have given it 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:28.280 some sort of color. But I thought that watching the game, 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.000 it felt like the NBA. It looked like the NBA. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.440 The sounds are definitely different, and I think, you know, 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.360 I think everybody's kind of willing to give the NBA 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.480 a pass on the sounds because we know these games 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.160 don't count, so we've got still another week to figure 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.800 out exactly how it's gonna sound when we're watching games 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:50.000 that matter, but watching it seeing robotic cameramen, seeing just 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:54.000 a few actual human cameramen, it looked the same to me. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.120 I got used to the plexiglass on the side, you know, 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:00.800 the big video boards as well. I think can be 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.480 pretty cool. Who knows what they're actually going to do 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.800 with those during the season, during the restart. Are they 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:08.120 going to put you know, fans going crazy on them? 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:10.600 Maybe at some point. But I thought it looked like 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:12.800 the NBA, and I thought it felt like the NBA, 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:13.680 so I was happy. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.080 Yeah, same here. I mean, I sort of you know, 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:17.800 at the start, we knew it was going to be different, 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.039 and the first few possessions it was different. You can 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:21.960 certainly hear a few more squeaks on the court and 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.160 a little bit more, you know, the whistles seem a 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.040 little bit louder, But once the games start, you sort 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.240 of forget about that and you're just enjoying watching basketball 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.040 again and again, as you mentioned that trade, these are 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.800 only scrimmages. They don't count. But This is pretty much 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.000 how it's going to look when the games do count, 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:37.760 So I don't think it's going to be a whole 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.680 lot different from what we're seeing now. But yeah, those 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.839 things in the background with the digital boards, like those 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.280 are the sort of things that give you a little 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.320 bit more you know, that aren't usually there during the 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.560 regular season. So there's something else that's a bit different. 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:52.080 But I mean, it's like it's kind of like an 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.800 upgrade on Summer League, even though there's fans at summer League, 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:56.600 but it's better than the sort of summer league we've 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.000 seen in Orlando anyway, you know where that's just like 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.000 in a tiny gym. I thought it was fine, And again, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.480 this is better than no basketball at all. So it's 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.800 a little bit of an adjustment for us. But really, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.039 at the end of the day, you're saying good basketball, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.480 you're saying proper basketball, and it's fine. I'm more than 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:14.760 happy with it, and I think it will get used 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.880 to it pretty quickly and it'll be great. 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.479 You have my biggest worry from from the viewers experience 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.560 from sitting here, just in terms of watching it was 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.800 empty stands, and they basically got rid of that because 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.640 of all those monstrous video boards, right they're they're covering 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.880 all the seats, and so, yeah, they sometimes they throw 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.240 logos in there, and I thought it might be distracting 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.040 for players, but it's not really at eye level. And 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:41.640 then you know, I actually went back and looked at 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:44.160 old basketball games because I forgot what basketball games are, 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.560 you know, when they when they played normally, and there's 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.719 you know, there's tons of different colors and players site 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:51.960 lines anyway, so it really I don't think it really matters. 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.960 And you said, Trey, maybe they throw up virtual fans. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.480 You know, the first couple of games, they just had 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.719 logos in there. And then I'm guilty. I didn't watch 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:04.200 every quarter of every scrimmage yesterday, but I did see 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.640 Bleacher Report put up a clip of the Miami Heat. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.359 They were on offense and they and I'm watching it 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.440 right now here they put up fans. They looped Heat fans, 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:19.200 so they're in red cheering and it sort of feels like, yeah, 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.000 the fans are there, and they didn't pipe in that. 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.840 They are experimenting with how much sound they put in there, 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.520 and they didn't pipe it in like crazy. They did 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:30.599 have music sort of you know, just just standard music 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:32.400 that you would hear in an arena. Did that bother? 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.880 It all trade just just the sort of the sights 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:35.919 and sounds part of it. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:37.640 The sounds. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.200 My main concern with the sounds is all the broadcasts 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.599 are different, right if you are watching, Like if you 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:47.520 were watching the Nuggets broadcast, they basically had a zoom 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.560 call on top of it, and that to me was 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.720 a no go. The Clippers were doing a simulcast between 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.600 their television broadcast and their radio broadcasts, so at times 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.520 it felt like you were listening to a radio broadcast, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.120 no doubt about it. My main concern though, with the 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.840 music would be that you cannot have songs from the 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.960 nineties like I heard even Gwen Stefani's let Me Blow 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.360 Your Mind. We can't have that. We cannot have that 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:14.240 playing during twenty twenty during this restart. If we're only 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.520 gonna be hearing music that's going on in the arena, 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.320 it's got to be current music or confirmed bangers. 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.800 Well, that's that's like watching a Spurs game. I mean, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:26.480 it feels like the Spurs just played a good point. Ok. Yeah, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.600 but you know it was. And that was the other 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.560 concern was that, like you could just hear squeakers or squeakers, 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:33.920 sneaker squeakers. You could just that's all you would be 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.240 able to hear. Is is nothing, and it would just 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.080 sound like Summer League. But I think they did a 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.640 good job of keeping sort of a there's like a hum. 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.240 You know, there were there even though there was no 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.160 fans in there, and you could see photos from reporters 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:49.000 where there was just like just thirty reporters sitting there 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:52.200 watching a basketball game socially distanced, which was weird. They 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.720 did a good job of keeping just a certain volume 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.640 where it didn't make it sound like this wasn't an 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:03.040 NBA game. And I did see Ryan Hollands tweet something 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:04.720 he said, you know, a lot of us play pro 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.920 am in the summer, a lot of guys play without fans, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.480 so we're sort of used to that kind of feel 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.840 like we do play like that. But it isn't an 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:16.240 NBA Finals game. I mean that that makes it different. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:20.520 But I think the NBA, you know, watching it, it's 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.640 only day one and lots of testings. Sure has to happen, 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.400 the coronavirus might enter the bubble, but day one, I 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.080 think it it was great, and I think, like we 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:35.000 talked about, the sidelines were crazy blank and even extended 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:39.679 past the the baselines as well. It looked made it 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:41.319 made it look like the court was kind of smaller 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.760 and especially small in the corners just because of the 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.560 different space. Do you think they changed that lee or 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.360 is that by design just to keep the Black Lives 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.240 Matter font even more prominent. I think that might be 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.120 the idea. But yeah, but also is really blank. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.240 Yeah, it was, and and sort of try to mention 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.679 that there. I think I would have probably painted the 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.360 lanes they're the key, you know, the free throw line 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:04.439 area there, just to just. 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.720 To give it a little in the Penson area, mate. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.839 Yeah, exactly, So I would just put a little something 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.720 in there. But but again, I don't know if the 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.000 NBA is going to, you know, but potentially, you know, 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:16.240 tweak these things as they go along, you know, based 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:19.040 on on the feedback they see from what people are 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.040 watching and saying about it. But yeah, I mean, it's 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:24.280 it's It definitely is weird to see just an NBA 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.360 logo and not a home team's logo and the home 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.640 team's colors or anything like that that that had the 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.400 summer league feel to it. But I think, you know, 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:34.560 it's this has never been done before, so it's a 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.240 it's an experimental thing for the NBA, and I think honestly, 0:09:37.280 --> 0:09:39.520 after day one, though, everyone's got to be pretty happy 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.720 with the results because no one's saying it was just 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.520 a you know, torturous experience to watch. You know that 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.360 what you mentioned there with the Nuggets, you know, that 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.920 was an unusual thing. We've never seen that before. Will 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.800 that continue? You know, maybe I'm not sure. But if 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.199 you if you if you don't want to hear the 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.160 Nuggets broadcast you was there wasn't well, I guess you 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.280 could hear the other one, but that was something that 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.520 was sort of imposing on the on the experience, but 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.559 it wasn't It wasn't bad. It was just if you 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.400 didn't want to hear the Nuggets commentators, you sort of 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.000 have to. So I think I think those are the 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.280 sorts of things that people are just going to figure 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:16.040 out right now in this scrimmage week and probably adjust 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.920 them when the game's really start, and certainly for the playoffs. 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:22.400 I love me some Nuggets broadcast crew. You know, we 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:25.079 we we feature them all the time on say what 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:28.559 we talked about Katie Wenji and Chris Marlow and Dempsey 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:32.439 there but can it wasn't great. Yeah, but let's let's 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.120 Scott Hastings. Well, let's get them some cameras or some 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.199 lighting or some some proper mic. I think we got 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.120 better mics than they do. But so that was that 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:43.640 was a little weird. But anyways, that's that's not going 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.960 to happen. We will get into the actual broadcasters who 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:48.640 will be broadcasting the games when they actually start. These 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.199 are just scrimmages and we are just extremely pumped to 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.040 watch it. I'd say one little thing I'd like is 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:55.960 that the camera And I'm not sure if it's fixed 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:57.640 like the main camera, if it can't be moved in, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:10:59.720 but it was. It was a little bit more zoomed out, 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.080 and it was like, you know, I was like, am 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:04.920 I getting old him? In the last three months? Have 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.520 my eyes gotten bad? Because I couldn't see make out 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.680 the players like I used to like it. I don't 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.080 know if that's something where the camera has to be fixed. 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.280 But anyways, let's get to the freaking basketball. You mentioned 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:22.240 the Nuggets. They started a monstrous lineup, But the guy 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:25.120 who stole the show was Bull Bull the Nuggets seven 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.120 to two player. Not even gonna call him a center 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.720 because he's playing point guard. He's a player, second round 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:33.120 pick this past draft, hadn't played in a game handling, shooting, 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:36.720 do it at all sixteen ten with six blocks. So Lee, 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:41.680 he had you clipping scrimmages and posting in the so 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.040 up or down on ball ball being Rookie of the 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:44.920 Year next season. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.280 Yeah, well, so this is an interesting one. I saw 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:51.080 John Schuman tweet something about it that these games when 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.199 they actually start won't count towards anything as far as 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.240 voting for this season's awards. So in that sense ball Ball, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.360 even if he plays, he won't necessarily be counted as 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:03.959 a rookie this season. He can play next season. I 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:05.320 think that's what Johnathan looks. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:05.559 Yeah. 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.679 Yeah, And honestly, if he plays the Wizards eighty two 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.520 games next season, then he is a luck for Rookie 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.120 of the Year. But I mean, obviously, like, look, the 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.840 Wizards are shorthanded as they are not a good defensive team. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.280 But what I saw from Bob Bowl yesterday was so 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:22.680 much fun and so enjoyable because he's more than just 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:26.240 you know, like a token guy going out there just 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:27.880 to give him some minutes because his dad played in 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.520 the NBA. He played really well. He handled the ball 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.080 incredibly well. I thought a couple of times past it 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.360 hit a pull up three, splashed another one there from 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.360 the corner, was blocking shots, was running the lane, had 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.560 a nice soft touch around the rim. So he's a 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.559 very talented big man. Things are obviously going to be 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.640 different when he goes up against a harder competition, you know, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.680 because again the Wizards are one of the worst defensive 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.760 teams and they didn't really have anyone out there to 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.520 contend with him. But I just was very, very impressed 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.160 with what I saw. He said after the game. I 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:00.000 wasn't shocked by my performance because I've been working hard. Obviously, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.840 he missed most of this season because of a foot injury. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.160 He's recovered from that, and he's really been working on 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.720 all facets of his game. So who knows. Who knows 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:09.319 if he can keep that up during a season. I 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:13.080 think it's probably unlikely, But the Mike Malone said, we 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.480 wanted to put him in positions where he could be effective, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.400 and you know, when you've got those long arms, you 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.520 know he can contest and block shots. And then if 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.320 he can do that stuff. At the other other end 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.480 of the floor, he's going to be an impactful player. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.199 So I would love to see him have a rookie 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.680 season where he could win the award and you know, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.400 show that yesterday's game wasn't just sort of a fluke 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:32.920 or a summer league type performance. 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.840 Definitely feels like a September call up in baseball, you know, 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.880 Shane Spencer mashing teeters for the New York Yankees. Then 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:41.240 he's able to come back and try and win the 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:42.400 Rookie of the Year the next year. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:43.079 It didn't happen. 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.720 Hopefully it does happen for ball ball because watching him, 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.400 that's how you knew the NBA was back. 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.360 Because I don't know a half. 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:55.480 Of a twenty you know, twenty minute half of a 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.679 scrimmage people are saying, oh man, if the Nuggets are 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.680 getting this from ball ball, they are a serious title contender. 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.080 We saw the guy play twenty minutes in a scrimmage 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.600 game after three and a half months off. But the 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.120 NBA is back because the NBA is ready for Bull Bull, 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.600 the ultimate two name guy. You're never gonna hear him 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.679 called Bull ever ever, He's gonna be Bull Bull one 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.000 percent of the time, but Stretch five is the most 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.520 enticing unicorn that is out there as a basketball player. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.480 You know, Bull Bull was a top ten recruit in 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:25.600 high school, so the talent is there. But when you 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.520 see somebody, uh that's seven foot two that can handle 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.600 the ball, can block shots and stroke threes, You're like, no, 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.720 wonder people love this kind of player. It's a player 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.720 you would make in a video game. If they're ever 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.640 able to actually translate that to a consistent success. 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:40.000 In the NBA. 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.360 You know, it's like white people get so excited about 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:45.240 Kristaps porzingis a seven foot four guy who can shoot threes. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:46.280 It's the same sort of thing. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.480 So yeah, if if you've got that kind of length 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.160 and you actually have ball skills, people get jacked. 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.400 He's he's the real one name, two name guy. 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:56.000 There. 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:57.960 Is it actually a two name, one name guy. I'm 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.160 not sure, but uh yeah, it's no. One just says ball, 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.240 It's bull ball every time, every time he touches the bolt. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.840 And yeah, it's enticing just to watch him play with 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:12.840 Nikoli Jokic too, who's another giant and can pass, and 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:18.000 so Jokic is just fun to watch period. And you know, 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.000 I was pumped last week when there was a highlight 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:24.000 of them in practice and Jokic drives the lane and 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.400 finds Bull Bull and Bull Bull is like a foot 0:15:26.400 --> 0:15:28.160 and a half above the rim and does a thrunk 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.320 because he's he's enormous. But yeah, we're obviously getting a 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.320 little ahead of ourselves and getting a little pumped for 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:37.280 Bull Bull's future. And when you see a guy bring 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.720 it up and standard Washington Wizards defense just lay off him, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.360 and yeah, he strokes a three, and yeah, we're getting 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.520 excited for two threes. He was also two for eight 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:49.320 run from three point land. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.360 But that pull out, that pull up a little heavy. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.240 That was beautiful to watch it. And there was a 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.760 couple of times where he picked up the defensive reband 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:00.440 and he ran very comfortably with the bull in his 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:02.720 hands there, you know, just like make a moves and 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.960 that that one sort of almost like a football pass. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.840 I think it was too Yeah, who was that too? 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:10.440 I can't remember who what the player was to, but 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.440 he got it over his shoulder and threw it. I 0:16:12.440 --> 0:16:15.040 mean it was like he's he's a skillful guy. You know, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.240 he's got uh, you know, he's got some talent. 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:20.400 And that's why they could start three near seven footers 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.280 yesterday it was yeah, it was Jeremy Grant and Paul 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.640 Millsap were the small guys at six eight sixty nine 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.120 or whatever they are, and then three near seven footers 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.320 and Bull Bull. After the game, apparently, according to Brendan 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.640 Vote of the Denver dot Com, he was selected for 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.640 a random drunk drug test by the NBA. I'm sure 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.080 Nuggets Twitter will have fun with that, because yeah, and 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:44.720 one thing about I guess about the Nuggets is that 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.960 they sort of brought Michael Porter Junior along slowly. Bull 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.640 Bull had an injury this year, but it seems like 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:54.920 they kind of keep guys in the just the development 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.280 wheel until they're needed. And they traded it, you know, 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.280 a couple other guys in Michael Beasley, hurt Leak Beasley, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.000 I should say not Michael Beasley, that's another guy, and 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:08.680 Jancho Hernan Gomez. They got some guys deep on the bench. 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.680 And so I don't know if Paul Millsap is gonna 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:13.439 be there next year as a free agent, but anyway, 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.760 that's that's something for next year when Bull Bull could 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:19.760 be rookie of the year. I guess Courtney John Schuman. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:23.000 We're gonna blame John Shuman if he's not eligible next year. Okay, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:27.040 next topic, and it's bull bull related. He's stuck a weggie. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.800 Leelis clipped it and put it up on the internet. 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.240 So up or down on counting scrimmage weggie? He's toward 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:38.639 our regular season total, which is at thirty six right now, JD, 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.159 what do you think should we count him? 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.840 Well, first of all, I'm way up on this weggie, 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:46.880 although maybe it's because I'm so starved. I'm looking at 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.600 Lee's Twitter his tweet right now. I mean, it's a 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.919 beautiful weggie. They couldn't let it breathe a little longer? 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:55.160 Did we did? 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.440 Cut to the camera that was getting the close up 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.160 of it, and then it gets knocked out by one 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:00.959 of the Wizards player. I really see who it is. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.399 But yeah, I mean it's it's a beautiful wedgie. But 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:08.520 counting them during scrimmage. As I've said before on the show, 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:12.760 I am a serial rules follower. We have to we 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.560 can't count it. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:15.480 Come on, JD. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.280 These are unprecedented times and calls for unusual counting. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.400 Listen yeah, for sure, there's already gonna be an asterix 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:28.000 on everything. We can't we we can't go crazy here, 0:18:28.119 --> 0:18:31.040 So scrimmage weggies are not acceptable. 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.679 Well because yesterday again ball ball was the big story. 0:18:34.720 --> 0:18:37.639 But Nikola Jokic gave us a classic dwinker to Wish Smith, 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:39.479 who went and scored a layup at the other end. 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:42.199 I saw two very solid plays. I counted them. Now. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.720 I mean, you can't count on man, you can't count scrimmage. 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.080 Come on now, somebody, somebody even tweeted me a highlight 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.960 that wasn't That's how people, That's how the stars people 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:56.199 were for basketball. So JD says, no tray. It sounds like, 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.000 come on, you want we need to count them. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.400 I would like to count it, but honestly, JD has 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:04.479 talked me into it. We need to have some integrity here. 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.600 JD is one hundred percent right. There's gonna be an 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:09.680