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Speaker 3: Day three at the Combine Charges Weekly, your third podcast

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Speaker 1: Today two of our absolute favorites. We start with Date

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Speaker 1: doing a ton of stuff as a draft scout for ESPN.

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Speaker 1: But today, like for people that aren't familiar with Nate,

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Speaker 1: I hope you are, because he does incredible work over

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Speaker 1: at the Athletic somewhat played at Wisconsin in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 1: Of course, his father, Mike Tys, longtime one of the

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Speaker 3: Here's Nate, all right, let's keep it rolling with another

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Speaker 3: great guess, Nate Tice. The Athletic joins us and Nate.

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Speaker 3: This has been so fun for us because we typically

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Speaker 3: do this podcast just me and money yapping about the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: Nate is certainly up there. Uh tell me what this

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, the interview process is just so huge. You're finally

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Speaker 4: Daniels is two hundred pounds. Maybe yeah, like you know,

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Speaker 4: It's just there's not a lot of historical kind of

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Speaker 4: But that's combine. Wait, that's another thing I have to

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Jordan Reid of ESPN told us that Alan and Jim

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Speaker 4: It makes so much sense to two hundred and forty

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Speaker 4: a game or two like that. But that's huge. Versatility

439
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Speaker 4: is huge. And then there's Zach Frazier from West Virginia.

440
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Speaker 4: And this is why, even if I really like his tape,

441
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Speaker 4: what this is all about frastility, He's a center only

442
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Speaker 4: just because of size and length and all that. So

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Speaker 4: that's why maybe I have him as a third guy.

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Speaker 4: But that having said that, that's three center types that

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Speaker 4: I consider late first rounders. That's more than we usually

446
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Speaker 4: maybe have one. Yeah, so that there's some legit. I

447
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Speaker 4: really like Barden for the Chargers though, I really if

448
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Speaker 4: he's there early second or thing or you do move

449
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Speaker 4: back stuff because of just of his versatility, just because

450
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Speaker 4: he could play center and he has experienced at that.

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Speaker 2: He's smart.

452
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Speaker 4: I always love that quarterback to center. Hey, we're gonna

453
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Speaker 4: build together for ten years kind of thing, and you'll

454
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Speaker 4: build that battery a little bit.

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Speaker 3: My last question, and I'm gonna address you as the

456
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Speaker 3: franchise quarterback justin we have to pick it five. We

457
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Speaker 3: have no trade options. Who are we taking It's it's

458
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Speaker 3: up to you. It's up to you.

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Speaker 4: I would say that guy from Penn State coach, I

460
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Speaker 4: know you have a lot of experience with him, you're

461
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Speaker 4: playing against him in the Big Ten. But Old for

462
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Speaker 4: Shanhu is the one Fashu. I would say, Forsan Fashu. Uh,

463
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Speaker 4: He to me is just I just he does so

464
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Speaker 4: much wrong.

465
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Speaker 2: But you say, I feel like he just got his

466
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Speaker 2: name wrong. That just gets his name wrong. No, yeah, yeah,

467
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Speaker 2: I'll what it was right, Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: But for Penn State, it's just I think he has

469
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Speaker 4: a lot of traits that you want at the tackle position.

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Speaker 4: It's just just the movement skills at that size still

471
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Speaker 4: has room to grow. He had one real bad game

472
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Speaker 4: against a Hiose State that maybe go, but then all

473
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Speaker 4: those other tapes really good. I think if some of

474
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Speaker 4: his people were saying that he's not good in the

475
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Speaker 4: run game, I actually think he's very good in the

476
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Speaker 4: run game.

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Speaker 2: I think he finishes. I think he's got good techniques.

478
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Speaker 4: But he's the guy to me that's like, that's a

479
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Speaker 4: franchise tackle at left right.

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Speaker 3: Justin we can get them eleak neighbors too, just just

481
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Speaker 3: I think about it.

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Speaker 2: I just it's had on a hat for me.

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Speaker 1: Yea.

484
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Speaker 4: And also, if you're starting from its inside out, team

485
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Speaker 4: building should always be inside out. I always look at

486
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Speaker 4: receivers as the cherry on top. That's the hey that

487
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Speaker 4: puts us over the top, that race by the ceiling.

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Speaker 4: I think the Chargers in this weird it's so crazy

489
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Speaker 4: in a twelve month span, they've gone from like we

490
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Speaker 4: need the cherries on top to now I think we're

491
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Speaker 4: rebuilding from the ground four up.

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Speaker 2: So that's why inside out for them.

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Speaker 1: So I'll finish with the least intriguing question from the

494
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Speaker 1: folks that are listening, and that's linebacker. But I think

495
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Speaker 1: about what happened to Baltimore when they traded for Rokland

496
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Speaker 1: Smith and how different that became for the Ravens and

497
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Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray. Gone probably likely that Eric Kendrick's at least

498
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Speaker 1: very real possibility he's cut candidate because of the cap

499
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Speaker 1: compliance that they've got to figure out. So they got nobody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well there's and there's not a lot of linebackers

501
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Speaker 2: in this draft.

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Speaker 1: Perfect.

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Speaker 4: I think my highest guy was the linebacker from Michigan

504
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Speaker 4: and Colson Colson, thank you almost called him. I was

505
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Speaker 4: call him the running back almost had corum uh junior.

506
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Speaker 4: Colson very smart, very doesn't have a high end ceiling.

507
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Speaker 4: I think he's a limited athlete and everything. But I

508
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Speaker 4: compare a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit to Nick Bolton from the Chiefs like that, Yeah, yeah, exactly.

510
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Speaker 1: We know that we know Nick Bolton.

511
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Speaker 4: Well three downs and can do everything very well, gets

512
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Speaker 4: everybody set and then that they have experienced with him.

513
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Speaker 4: And I think the defensive coordinator, like with all the

514
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Speaker 4: free will and stuff, he handles all that really well.

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Speaker 2: He to me in the second round is actually like

516
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Speaker 2: the one guy. I kind of like that.

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Speaker 4: It's a pretty pretty dire linebacker class.

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Speaker 1: Definitely. Well, be sure to uh listen to all the pods,

519
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:51,439
Speaker 1: read all the articles. Uh, Nate underscore tice is the

520
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Speaker 1: social media feed that you can get all the links.

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Speaker 1: I would assume we know you're busy, Nate. Thanks man

522
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Speaker 1: much appreciate it. Appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Nate.

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Speaker 3: Yep, another big time guess me and a kinds VSBN

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Speaker 3: joins us and me.

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Speaker 1: You just got in town.

527
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Speaker 5: Yesterday, yesterday, Yes, how has it been so far?

528
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm still on West Coast time, but excited

529
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Speaker 6: to be here, excited to see some of these d

530
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Speaker 6: linemen run.

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Speaker 5: It's one of my favorite things in the combine.

532
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Speaker 6: It's one of the things where like you actually do

533
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Speaker 6: get a lot out of being there in person and

534
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Speaker 6: just seeing like I never I'll never forget seeing Jordan

535
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Speaker 6: Davis run in person and just wow that Yeah.

536
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Speaker 1: That was for me. That was Don Perry Poe.

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Speaker 5: Oh god, yes, back in.

538
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Speaker 1: The days when we were on the field and you

539
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Speaker 1: know we had heard oh yeah, this guy's pretty big,

540
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Speaker 1: he's gonna run fast, and like you said, when you

541
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Speaker 1: see it firsthand, it is it is odd to see

542
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Speaker 1: a man that large move like that, and you.

543
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Speaker 5: See why it's so seductive.

544
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Speaker 1: Yes, and sweat this year.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he's been hyping it too, which I love.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you gotta be careful with those. I never remember

547
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Speaker 1: the guy's name, but there was a wide receiver out

548
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Speaker 1: of Mississippi State and I you know, we used to

549
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Speaker 1: do the stream, which I know exactly. Do you remember

550
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Speaker 1: who it was what his name was, and he had

551
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Speaker 1: it was like the perfect name because the name had

552
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Speaker 1: like speed in it or fast or something like that.

553
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Speaker 1: And Ike Taylor was like and you know he's the best,

554
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Speaker 1: and he's just like, oh, hold on, everyone, now we

555
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Speaker 1: gotta we gotta wait. This guy's about to light this

556
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Speaker 1: place on fire. And the guy ran like a four

557
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Speaker 1: and so hopefully sweat will uh will overcome the announcers.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get exactly exactly, so you're here watching d Lineman.

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Speaker 1: We'll get quarterbacks. Let's start there, Mina, because you obviously

560
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Speaker 1: know the quarterbacks. What do you think is it? Is

561
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Speaker 1: it three? Is it four? Is it top five? Is

562
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Speaker 1: it top ten? How do you see it working?

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Speaker 6: I mean, it seems like four will likely go on

564
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Speaker 6: the top half of the draft, which it's been a

565
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Speaker 6: rapidly expanding number, as you know, started as two, then

566
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Speaker 6: it was three, then it was three, going on the

567
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Speaker 6: top four, top three.

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Speaker 5: Now it's guys rising.

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Speaker 6: But this happens every year, so you gotta kind of

570
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Speaker 6: wait and see a thing shake out. There's also I

571
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Speaker 6: think before I have a good sense of where the

572
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Speaker 6: quarterbacks might go, particularly after the first three. You got

573
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Speaker 6: to see how things shake out in free agency. Kirk

574
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Speaker 6: Cousins some of the smoke around justin fields Chicago obviously,

575
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Speaker 6: but yeah, there's certainly a lot of hype around these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: So hardball comes in and it's just a whole new

577
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Speaker 3: vibe inga they have to build this thing differently. There's

578
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Speaker 3: a lot of positions that I think depth leaves a

579
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Speaker 3: little bit to be desired. Where do you start when

580
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Speaker 3: you look at this roster?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just looking at the team sort of

582
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Speaker 6: the depth start, trying to kind of assess the needs

583
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Speaker 6: ahead of the draft, especially with such a premium pick,

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Speaker 6: and I came out of it thinking I want to

585
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Speaker 6: trade down and stock up. You know, kind of depends

586
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Speaker 6: on what people want for five. You see, if you

587
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Speaker 6: can get something, get a nice hal for that. But

588
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Speaker 6: there's a lot of needs offensive line, defensive, both sides

589
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Speaker 6: of the ball. In the trenches, I would say, cornerback,

590
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Speaker 6: jumps out, tight end.

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Speaker 5: I'm like naming every position. Yeah, I would tell you

592
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Speaker 5: that's probably what I would prioritize.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you so, you know, like people that

594
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Speaker 1: listen and watch they they are a little more adverse

595
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Speaker 1: to the idea of investing a bunch of high picks

596
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Speaker 1: and lines. They don't quite understand that idea, so they

597
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Speaker 1: get excited about shiny objects and wide receivers and tight ends.

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've you've watched some some rock Powers. Kind

599
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Speaker 1: of your thoughts on on what he brings and like

600
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Speaker 1: what would be because i know, like DJ wrote, gosh,

601
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Speaker 1: the idea of brock Powers on the Bengals is so exciting.

602
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Speaker 1: You're just kind of your thoughts of, yeah, what you

603
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Speaker 1: would invest in him and where you'd like to see.

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Speaker 6: Really fascinating prospect because of the position more so than

605
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Speaker 6: the player, because the player is very, very good, very complete.

606
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Speaker 6: I don't tell you guys that I'm probably one of

607
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Speaker 6: the more watched prospects in the draft because of the

608
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Speaker 6: big games that he's played in. But just you know,

609
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Speaker 6: he's an offensive weapon with balls, hands, amazing catch radius,

610
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Speaker 6: the size of Mars, the sophisticated route runner, really smart player,

611
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Speaker 6: decent blocker, will probably get better in the NFL. But

612
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Speaker 6: is that a position that you can spend a top

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Speaker 6: five pick on. I think that's an open question. And

614
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Speaker 6: when people say, well, I don't understand, like, you know,

615
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Speaker 6: why does that even matter if he's an offensive weapon?

616
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Speaker 5: Well, because I mean you have picks like that.

617
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Speaker 6: It's not only about the player, obviously you guys know this,

618
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Speaker 6: but about the value, because the opportunity to get a

619
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Speaker 6: premium position at a great value is very tantalizing. Also,

620
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Speaker 6: I would say it is about the position in particular

621
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Speaker 6: in the specific because tight ends historically have taken a

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Speaker 6: while to kind of develop in the NFL, and I'm

623
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Speaker 6: curious to see if the success of Sam Laporta and

624
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Speaker 6: Detroit right off the jump maybe helped a second round

625
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Speaker 6: pick who is not as good a prospect as Bowers,

626
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Speaker 6: if that actually helps his draft stock. It really just

627
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Speaker 6: kind of depends on, to me, at least, what your

628
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Speaker 6: needs are, how many of those needs you have. And

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Speaker 6: I think that's where things get tricky for LA because,

630
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Speaker 6: as we just talked about, as a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of needs, the three wide receivers at the top,

632
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Speaker 3: how closely do you have those guys? Obviously MARVISA Harrison

633
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Speaker 3: seems to be the consensus, but yeah, Rome and neighbors

634
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 3: kind of nipping at his heels there.

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Speaker 6: They're fantastic And I do view it as like a

636
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Speaker 6: clear top three. I'm a Huskies fan, so I love do.

637
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Speaker 5: Say so he's so cool because I watch.

638
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Speaker 6: Him and I just think there's no way he can

639
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Speaker 6: fail in the NFL. Like to me, he has his

640
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 6: floor is just so high. He's so complete, he's going

641
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Speaker 6: to be a quarterback's best friend. But I would still

642
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Speaker 6: have him as wide receiver three just because explosiveness is

643
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Speaker 6: such a premium.

644
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Speaker 5: Neighbors with the ball in his hands is so.

645
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 6: Just unbelievable, and you know, watching LSU is crazy. But

646
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Speaker 6: when I had time to kind of go back and

647
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Speaker 6: watch the tape, I was reminded, don't overthink Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's just.

649
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Speaker 6: I don't feel like it's extreme to say he's about

650
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Speaker 6: as good as wide red receiver prospect as I've ever seen,

651
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Speaker 6: And unlike those other two receivers, was thrown some pretty difficult.

652
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Speaker 5: Walls, so you know, he's a little bit more.

653
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Speaker 1: Batball catcher battle.

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Speaker 5: Tested in that regard, I suppose.

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Speaker 6: I mean, because yeah, Jane Daniels and Michael Pennix are

656
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 6: just throwing these beautiful pearls to their guys, and Harrison

657
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 6: Junior was tracking down some real, real ducks out there.

658
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 5: So he's a really cool player.

659
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: It's we've been talking about it quite a bit, just

660
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: because a lot of mock drafts have have mocked either

661
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: neighbors or don say to the Chargers, and really, you know,

662
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: you mentioned it. I don't think people realize like what

663
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: Rome is going to do here, like what the combine

664
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: is going to look like for him, just because it's

665
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: hard when you watch football on TV to realize how

666
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: big somebody is, especially when they're surrounded by other very

667
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: large individuals in a huddle and there's offensive linemen and

668
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: there's tight ends, and you don't you don't recognize that, Yeah,

669
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: Rome Duday's a legit six to two. He's a legit

670
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: two hundred and fifteen pounds, and he's probably gonna run

671
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: sub for four. Like he's really special. He's crazy like

672
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: and it's just so fun. I think that gets lost

673
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: in translation when you're watching this on TV.

674
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 6: And that's what so unusual about not just this top three,

675
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 6: but I would say like the top eight receivers in

676
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 6: this classes, Like we're coming off of so many years

677
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 6: where you have the guy, you know, there are a

678
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 6: lot of undersized receivers. The receivers who were like big

679
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 6: but maybe not as fast. You have so many like

680
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 6: true X receivers in this draft. It's pretty unprecedented, frankly.

681
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 6: But for the Chargers, you know, when you consider again

682
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 6: the needs and the roster, and also I think the

683
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 6: identity of the coach, Greg Roman coming in what they

684
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 6: imagine they want to do on offense, I'm not sure

685
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 6: it makes sense.

686
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've talked about the defensive line, and right now

687
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: as we talk, it's kind of a mystery as of

688
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 3: what's gonna happen with Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa. There's

689
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: a lot of needs at defensive tackle. You know, we've

690
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: talked about Chris Jenkins. Maybe maybe he's a second or

691
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: third round pick that the Chargers identify. How do you

692
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 3: assess what the Chargers defense is going to look like

693
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: and kind of what jesse Minzer can can work with

694
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: up front?

695
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love watching jesse Mincher's defense. Uh, Brothers, I

696
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 6: was so excited for my Seahawks to have Mike McDonald

697
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 6: as their head coach. You know, obviously the shared DNA there.

698
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 6: I think watching those defenses, the things that there's a

699
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 6: lot of types of players that jumps out, jump out,

700
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 6: pardon me, off ball linebacker. Athleticism is really important as

701
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 6: well as smarts because it's it's a very complicated defense

702
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 6: up front. I think that there are players on the

703
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 6: Chargers already who I see fitting in well, tou Lee,

704
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 6: who's obviously so good as a rookie. I'm excited to see,

705
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 6: like what James what what this defense can do for him?

706
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 6: For example, Again, give the amount of disguise they employ

707
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 6: on the back end, but.

708
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 5: There's a lot of holes that have to be filled.

709
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 6: And I do think that that's, you know, outside of

710
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 6: the offensive line, is probably what I would prioritize.

711
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: What uh, because I think the Seahawks are probably going

712
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: to go through it to a team, you know, intimately.

713
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: But the idea of a band aid off and just saying, okay, well, Khalil, Joey, Mike,

714
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: you know, let's we need to reset. These guys are

715
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: great at developing. Let's let's develop some in players. Versus

716
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: what if the coaches came to you and said, hey,

717
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: give us a shot. I know it's not the best idea,

718
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: but let's let's push some of this, give us a shot.

719
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: With Joey Khalil, Mike, would you does that make any

720
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: sense to you? With the cap going up? If if

721
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: Jesse Minter came and said, no, I need two edges

722
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: I need I think we need these guys, can we

723
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: make it work?

724
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 5: It would be tricky, I think honestly.

725
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess it's you know, you're really you're

726
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 6: kind of looking at four players, the receivers in the edges,

727
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 6: you know, you guys in conjunction with each other, and

728
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 6: seeing if, okay, maybe if we choose to make the

729
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 6: sacrifice at receiver instead, we can prioritize edge and having

730
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 6: a young edge I think maybe helps with two yeah, yeah,

731
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 6: potentially move on on that side of the ball. So

732
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 6: you're looking at him versus you're looking at like Quentin Johnson,

733
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 6: you drafting the first round last year, you say, okay, which

734
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 6: of these two players do we think can like take

735
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 6: the step to compensate for the loss of the the

736
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 6: better it I mean, you know, Mac was fantastic here,

737
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 6: so it you know, it's like it's like, oh my god,

738
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 6: we're really talking about that, and we see how much

739
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 6: better this offense is with Mike Williams. But you know,

740
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 6: the previous receime left some pretty hard decisions in place.

741
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: If you could only keep one, who would you keep

742
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: out of those four Keenan, Mike, Joey Khalil.

743
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 5: It's really hard.

744
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 6: Well, I just don't see how this offense can run

745
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 6: without Keenan Allen at the moment, so that would probably

746
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 6: be it.

747
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

748
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, By the way, I was looking down, d run

749
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 3: Ya Wilson to run Ya Wilson.

750
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: There it is four nine man hold on everybody about

751
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: the light like a Fortnight's what it was.

752
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 3: Staying with the wide receivers, We've talked about the fact

753
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: that because Justin Herbert's your quarterback, maybe that second tier

754
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: of wide receivers like Justin can just elevate that player,

755
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: whether it's like a Franklin or a Wilson from Michigan.

756
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 3: Where do you kind of fall in that, Like you

757
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: got the blue chip guys the no doubt are slam

758
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: dunk neighbors Roma Dunza or Hey, we got to address

759
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: the offensive line early and we can get one of

760
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: these receivers because it's a deep class.

761
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 5: Sort of like what the Chiefs just did.

762
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 6: That's what you're talking about, right, Because after the super rule,

763
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 6: people were like oh, did the Chiefs show us that,

764
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 6: like wide receiver is not that important? And then obviously

765
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 6: there was like it's Patrick Patrick Malmes, but it's also

766
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 6: Patrick ma Holmes and Travis Kelsey. And by the way,

767
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 6: the young receiver they drafted last year was really good

768
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 6: by the end of the season. So I think you

769
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 6: can only go so far and not prioritizing that position,

770
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 6: because yes, the quarterback can elevate the receiver, but receiver

771
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 6: not only you know, they have to do so many

772
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 6: things right that it's I don't know, I would not

773
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 6: consider that an opportunity to save money just because you

774
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 6: got a good quarterback.

775
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: Where do you come out on? And this is something

776
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: that can be sort of popular in college if they

777
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: recognize in a conference that their window does not look

778
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: good at that particular time. It's like, you know what,

779
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: let's just play for two years down the road, develop

780
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: and this guy'll be gone and they'll be gone, and

781
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: that's where we're going to take our window. It's not

782
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: as prevalent in the in the NFL, but just let's

783
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: talk both Western divisions NFCAFC, Like what do you think

784
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: the window is for the forty nine ers and what

785
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: do you think the window is for the Chiefs, Like,

786
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: how vulnerable, if at all, do you see those two

787
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: teams to the three that are behind them to knock

788
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: them off their perch this season or next.

789
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 6: I think I see the Niners being more vulnerable to

790
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 6: that than the Chiefs. They don't have that many free

791
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 6: agents this year, but in twenty twenty five they have

792
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 6: a bunch of guys coming up. At some point they're

793
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 6: going to have to make a decision about paying the quarterback. Obviously,

794
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 6: that's a pretty big advantage for them right now, whereas

795
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 6: I mean Kansas City just showed us it doesn't really.

796
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 6: I mean, they've had a lot of picks hit on defense,

797
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 6: and some of their signings I think have been very astute.

798
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 6: It's just was a very well built team last year.

799
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 6: But I think when you have the quarterback, you always

800
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 6: are competing and your window is never really closed. And

801
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 6: then so when we were talking about team like LA,

802
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 6: where I think the roster has a lot of issues.

803
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 6: You don't punt, you just don't have to, you know,

804
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 6: take some pain and eat your vegetables and address maybe

805
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 6: un sexy positions and trade down and all those kinds

806
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,239
Speaker 6: of things.

807
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 5: We've been talking about.

808
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 6: But when your quarterback is one of the you know,

809
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 6: five to seven best quarterbacks in the NFL, you're always competing,

810
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 6: Is it?

811
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: Sorry, Chris? Is that like because as Chargers people, we

812
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: go into these seasons and we go into this year,

813
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: and we go into last year, and it's like, Okay,

814
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are vulnerable. And I don't feel like that's

815
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 1: a bad assessment. It's like, hey, look they got rid

816
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: of Tyreek Hill. It's just we have Derwin James, focus

817
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 1: on Travis Kelcey, and this offense can be had. I

818
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: just feel like these last two years, we've looked at

819
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: the AFC, and looked at the Bills, and looked at

820
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: the Ravens, and looked at what we've had with the Chargers,

821
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: and I can't figure out why it continues to break

822
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: the way it does for the Chiefs and they end

823
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 1: up just kind of doing what we all think they're

824
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: not going to be capatable to do this year. Is

825
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: it as simple as Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

826
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 6: You know, it's been different stories different years. I think

827
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: this year, ultimately, you know, the coach and the quarterback

828
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 6: probably the most important thing, but the fact that they

829
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 6: did hit on so many of those pieces on defense.

830
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 6: You know, we talked about the draft and draft picks

831
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 6: acquired and the Tyreek hiltrade that turned into some of

832
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 6: the young excellent secondary of Carlosis is really good. But

833
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 6: then when you look at some of the free agent

834
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 6: signings they made, justin Reid for example, Ja Tranquil was

835
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 6: really good for them, right, and you see, and I

836
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: think coaching also factors into that as well. Having a

837
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 6: defensive coordinator who's like probably should be a head coach

838
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 6: and has been your defensive coordinator and has developed these

839
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 6: young players is also a massive edge. They have so

840
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 6: much continuity, you know there on that side of the ball.

841
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think it's it's just a very well

842
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 6: constructed roster. And then it helps, of course that you have,

843
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 6: you know, two of the greats.

844
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Yes staying in the division.

845
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: Obviously you got Mahomes at Herbert on one side, and

846
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: then we don't know what the heck the Broncos and

847
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 3: the leader's going to do a quarterback. How do you

848
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: view this division specifically what Denver and Vegas may do

849
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: to kind of changed the complexion of their offense and

850
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: their franchise quarterback.

851
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, big question mark with the quarterback position. So it's

852
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 6: kind of hard to even get a good feel for

853
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 6: how competitive they'll be. But I think they're teams that

854
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 6: were both sort of trending in the right direction last year.

855
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 6: The ratest defense ID that was playing really well down

856
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 6: the stretch, and it still has to add a lot

857
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 6: of talent on that side of the ball, you know,

858
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 6: good skill players. Offensive lines not too bad Denver again,

859
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 6: you know some of them. The turnaround that they had

860
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 6: was turnover luck and things kind of and I think

861
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 6: some of the things, some of the trends from the

862
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 6: first part of the season were unsustainable for them.

863
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 5: But very good head coach obviously, Peyton.

864
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 6: It feels like if either of those teams had for

865
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 6: if either of them had a Herbert, they would immediately

866
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 6: honestly like be better than the Chargers at this point, probably,

867
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 6: but that's the odds of that are low for you guys.

868
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 6: So I think the quite is like, Okay, well, if

869
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 6: they get that next here, how competitive are they? I

870
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 6: think that's where you're looking at. How much does the

871
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 6: quarterback matter versus the roster and I don't know this

872
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 6: Acy West teams all play each other hard, though it's

873
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 6: kind of kind of weird.

874
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. They typically split except for the chiefs

875
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: when who win all the matchups, but otherwise the other

876
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: the other teams tend to split with each other. I'm

877
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: gonna go a little off the menu here, and I'm

878
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: assuming I don't know. Maybe it's just my background in

879
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: a particular previous career that I had that leads me

880
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: to ask you this, And I don't think I ever

881
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: have before. You have Wowie's Ali behind you, you're at

882
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: home appearances. I don't know if there's just a such

883
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: a strong connection to that one Pavement record that it

884
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: has to stay there and hasn't rotated. But if it

885
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: did rotate, yeah, if you if you were forced to

886
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: take it down, like, hey, we've seen enough of this,

887
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's replat it. Put up another Texas Ready,

888
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: They're just breaks down, they're breaking down. You gotta you

889
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: gotta takeow.

890
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 6: I actually thought about replacing it because I have a

891
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 6: custom paintingstom It's a painting of American Water, which is

892
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 6: an album that I like a lot from the Silver

893
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 6: Juice that the artists who made the album cover painted

894
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 6: it for me, and I was thinking about replacing Wow, he's.

895
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: Out there we go.

896
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 6: But I just I've had Wow he's out for so long,

897
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 6: I know, And honestly, like probably like once at least,

898
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 6: what maybe twice a week I hear from someone who's like,

899
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 6: why is there a Pavement album on an ESPN background?

900
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: It just cracks me up every time.

901
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: So instead of your own book behind You, which apparently

902
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: is a very popular path, Nah, what go for that?

903
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: Check out my book? It's behind me? So is this

904
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: award that I got ten years ago? I'm sorry. What's

905
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: the rest of the week look like for you guys?

906
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're live from stadium today tomorrow. You know, it's

907
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 6: kind of the beginning for us of all of this,

908
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 6: so it's our kind of first crack and talking about

909
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 6: the quarterbacks. I've been desperately cramming over the last week,

910
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 6: the beginning of draft season, so I'm pumped. This is

911
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 6: like one of my favorite join them. I just it's

912
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 6: and it's it's cool for me too personally because I

913
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 6: like college football. I'm a Huskies fan, so you know,

914
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 6: I've seen these players, but there's a lot of players

915
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 6: like I didn't watch during the regular season. So when

916
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 6: I get a chance I'm like, guys, oh my god,

917
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 6: like I was just having lunch by I know, I

918
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 6: puind uh and uh Cooper Jean de Jean walks in.

919
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 6: I didn't watch Iowa because everyone was like, this is

920
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 6: so boring, like it was crap.

921
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 5: That kid is good, Yeah.

922
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 6: I mean good lord, he is a really really good

923
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 6: zone corner and he walks in.

924
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 5: I'm just like, oh my god, like, yeah, I just

925
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: want your game.

926
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: Oh no, I would ask you this because we asked

927
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: uh Nate Tysis if Pennix had clean medical, Yeah, where

928
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: would he be?

929
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: In your eyes?

930
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: Uh?

931
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 6: I would if you had a clean medical I would

932
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 6: view him probably like end of first maybe like around there.

933
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 6: You know that in age is a little This is

934
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 6: another thing that's horrible.

935
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: Draft season. I'm like, twenty four. Send him to the

936
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 5: retirement volleyballs right old.

937
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 6: It's it's so crabby. I think with Penix, who I

938
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 6: love as a college player. My question is like what

939
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 6: we saw from it's actually it's kind of similar to

940
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 6: what they're not some of the players.

941
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 5: But it was a similar discourse around c J. Stroud

942
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 5: what we saw.

943
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 6: From him in the Texas Texas game and CJS around

944
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 6: Georgia is what I mean. Where he was like so

945
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 6: evasive versus pressure, stepping up in the pocket, firing over

946
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 6: the middle of the field. Is that who he can

947
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 6: be as a quarterback consistently because a lot of his

948
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 6: production in college was, you know, bombs outside the numbers

949
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 6: screens and my god, that guy throws beautiful, beautiful goballs.

950
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 6: But for me, when I'm thinking about success in the NFL,

951
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 6: you got to use the middle of the field. You

952
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 6: got to be able to play under pressure, and he had.

953
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 6: He did that in that game, So I think what

954
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 6: I want to see is, Okay, can you do that,

955
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 6: you know at the next level.

956
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 5: I'm not so sure. I hope. So it's a great guy.

957
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: Did you uh? Did you fall into the trap with

958
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: the rest of the Huskies fans when all the speculation

959
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: was Dan Lanning was going to Alabama of poking poking

960
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: of your your southern neighbors, like, Hi, you're gonna lose

961
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: your guy. Yeah, well, and then all of a sudden,

962
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: there it is, right in your lap.

963
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it was.

964
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 6: It was a real roller coaster for me because, like

965
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 6: I said, I love this Husky season so much and

966
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 6: I'm so high into bor.

967
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 5: But you know he's dead to me now, and I.

968
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: Mean you can understand the guy doesn't want to go

969
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: to the big kidding. I'm kidding, but a lot of

970
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: Washington fans don't.

971
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 6: Well then, I mean the getting grubbed though for the

972
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 6: Seahawks really softened the blow. So I was like, all right,

973
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 6: I have I have some friends who are Bama fans.

974
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 6: I was just like roasting them because I was like,

975
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 6: you can have bor. You know, I'm excited to see

976
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 6: what Ryan Grubb's offense looks like in the NFL. I'm

977
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 6: really intrigued because very different circumstances from Washington.

978
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: With Gino or with Gino. You're good with Gino. Yeah,

979
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm like a rider died Gene.

980
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 5: I'm on Geno Mountain.

981
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you and Greg Rosenthalt Gino.

982
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 5: My I know Greg Greg is the mayor of Gino Mountain.

983
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: Guy Enna our guy Chenna in Seattle too. You know

984
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: we love Chenna.

985
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 5: Miss Jenna na' is a good player. Comes back.

986
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: We'll have a great week. We appreciate you stopping by

987
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: the draft exactly. That's the plan. Keep telling people there's

988
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks, are the top five?

989
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 5: Always say trade down exactly.

990
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 2: Love Mina.

991
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 3: What's funny is that she sits down and then she

992
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: gets up and there's like five or six other teams

993
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 3: that are.

994
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: Coming by that so I felt bad. I mean, we're

995
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: set up right when you walk in the door, and

996
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: I was like, just walking the door, sit down and

997
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: walk out, and she's just too nice. She's she's not

998
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: gonna say no. But that's fine. I mean, like, the

999
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: one thing that I take away from from today is

1000
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: it's now becoming pretty much just universal. I don't feel

1001
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: like we've really had anybody say, hey, you got to

1002
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,879
Speaker 1: stick and pick at five. No, Mina said it, Nate

1003
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: said it, figure out, trade down, just pile up picks

1004
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: and uh. And it's Mina run Mina's Piranhas. They will,

1005
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: they will chew you to the bone. They will chew

1006
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: you to the bone. That that you got to get

1007
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: out of five. That that's just with a staff that's

1008
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: so good at developing players and has proven that at Michigan.

1009
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question that that's why so

1010
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: many of these people are are saying, get out of five,

1011
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: get out of five, trade down, and work your way out.

1012
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: That's been the good sense this is hilarious. Way I

1013
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: feel so bad? Exactly, it's all right, Oh yeah, what's that?

1014
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: Oh that looks more like you than that one. They

1015
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: won't get that won't get you as many places Mina evicted. Exactly. There,

1016
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: all right, you get to see what it looks like live,

1017
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: are we Oh that's it. We're still rolling. So we're

1018
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: making the sausage man. You're seeing, you're seeing how it

1019
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: is made. Is this live? Live? This live? Alright, let's

1020
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: start it over from the top there, all right, everybody,

1021
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: let's let's go. Let's good, right of course, I was

1022
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: just reading liners. Let's yeah, let's do that work. Good work,

1023
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: good

1024
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: M hm