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Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good Morning.

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Speaker 1: This is Laura, Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's

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Speaker 1: episode is going to be a longer one part of

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Speaker 1: my interview series where I talk with fascinating people about

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Speaker 1: how they spend their time. Today, I'm going to be

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Speaker 1: chatting with Tracy Davidson. Tracy is the co anchor of

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Speaker 1: my local NBC news stations four o'clock and five o'clock

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Speaker 1: news programs. She's won multiple Emmy Awards for her work

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Speaker 1: over the years, and she is a fixture here in

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Speaker 1: our community for her leadership. So Tracy, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this. So tell our listeners a

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Speaker 1: little bit about yourself.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have been in broadcast journalism for about forty years,

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Speaker 2: and I am grateful that I still love what I do,

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Speaker 2: and I do co anchor the four and five o'clock

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Speaker 2: newscast on the NBC station in Philadelphia. I also, as

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Speaker 2: part of my role there, am the consumer reporter. But

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Speaker 2: my consumer beat is specifically about helping people who run

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Speaker 2: up against challenges with governments or businesses or something that

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Speaker 2: they just can't get resolved themselves. That's when they come

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Speaker 2: to me.

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Speaker 1: And I bet that is pretty satisfying to see problems

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Speaker 1: like solved that people like, well wait, if Tracy's on it,

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Speaker 1: I guess I have to make this right now.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's very very rewarding. I always say it's

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Speaker 2: sad that sometimes it takes somebody from a television station

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Speaker 2: to call a company to make them do the right thing.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of other times it's just that something

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Speaker 2: has slipped through the crack, somebody made a mistake, and

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Speaker 2: once they get a call from me, they say, well,

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Speaker 2: let's just check this out, and then you know, they

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Speaker 2: find out that the individual is do their their washer

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Speaker 2: and dryer or a refund or whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: So it makes for very satisfying television. And I mean

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Speaker 1: part of you know, we're talking about time management on

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Speaker 1: this show, and from being on the air so much

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Speaker 1: over the past forty years, you probably think of time

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Speaker 1: in a very different way than most people do. I

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Speaker 1: wonder if you could talk about that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, my days, I think because of what I

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Speaker 2: do are in fifteen minute increments. Everything that I do

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Speaker 2: is blocked in fifteen minute increments, and I see the

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Speaker 2: value in even two minutes or two and a half minutes,

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Speaker 2: because sometimes we'll have a break that's two and a

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Speaker 2: half minutes in our newscast, and I know that that's

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Speaker 2: actually a lot of time. If I have to double

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Speaker 2: check some facts on a story and do a little research,

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Speaker 2: or I have to text my executive producer and ask

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Speaker 2: a question, I can, I can actually get a lot

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Speaker 2: value and know the value of time. And you know,

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Speaker 2: it also makes me very aware that it's easy to

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so my schedule is all in fifteen minute blocks,

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Speaker 2: and I know that you move blocks and tiles around.

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Speaker 2: My tiles are fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes exactly. Well, and you have some routines through

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Speaker 1: your day, I wonder if you could talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about your morning routine.

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Speaker 2: Sure, So my morning routine starts at five o'clock, which

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Speaker 2: then five point thirty starts to do a quick review

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Speaker 2: because my job is constantly being aware of everything that's

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Speaker 2: quickly do that, and then it's whatever the workout is

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Speaker 2: five point thirty and six, and I'm almost always home

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Speaker 2: of the Today Show, so that I see what they have,

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Speaker 2: and then at eighteen it's into the shower and then

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Speaker 1: A train or train Yeah, okay into the city. Then

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Speaker 2: No, that's valuable time. Yes, that's valuable time. And that's

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Speaker 2: Between two forty five and three o'clock, I make my

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Speaker 2: sort of review that on the train and say, do

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Speaker 2: always it's never a throwaway because that's valuable time for me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. And I'm curious with you know, doing a show

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Speaker 1: How much of that is done before you get into

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very curious how that is sort of

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Speaker 2: Later almost all is done that day. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: all about news of the day, and so what we

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Speaker 2: and then plan is our coverage, and then go out

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Speaker 2: So it's constantly being developed over the afternoon. And and

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Speaker 2: commercial breaks are longer, are vital for me to be

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Speaker 2: so it's all being done right then in real time.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of it is, I'm sure changing as

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Speaker 2: Right, the Hogway is about to past xys, It was

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Speaker 2: about to pass it at four to ten, but when

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Speaker 1: Yeah, constantly, updating, absolutely, And for our international listeners, they're like,

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Speaker 2: Right Tracy, we are one of, if not the most

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Speaker 2: important state to the political campaigns right now. And if

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Speaker 2: you need evidence, it's you'll see it in the commercials,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we're a very popular state right now, very

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Speaker 1: Very much. But it makes for an interesting job for

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Speaker 1: Tracy for sure. Well, we're going to take a quick

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Speaker 1: I am back talking with Tracy Davidson about her routines

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Speaker 1: and how she manages her life. Tracy is an anchor

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Speaker 1: maybe you can talk about what some of your biggest

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Speaker 1: time management challenges are these days.

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Speaker 2: Well, So, even though it sounds like I have my

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Speaker 2: mornings planned out if those are always a challenge, especially

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Speaker 2: because for me there's this issue of clothes. I have

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Speaker 2: I'm scrambling at seven nineteen when I should be in

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Speaker 2: and so that's definitely, that's definitely a job.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say that that seemed I mean,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, that's that's the time that I am

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Speaker 2: really it's not eighteen minutes. It's getting everything ready and

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Speaker 1: Got cha, gotcha. So what is the difference between something

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Speaker 2: You, you know, I no, I guess, you know, I see

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Speaker 2: people here would be My advice is just to be

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Speaker 2: just to look natural, because and I think that it's

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Speaker 2: just doesn't seem real. Everything that we see on social

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Speaker 2: would prefer to see real. We know what you look like,

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Speaker 2: would prefer to tell people everyone looks just okay, you

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Speaker 1: I would love that, Believe me, I would love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I could show up one day and say,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's the same journalist whether I have all

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Speaker 2: me and a ponytail yeah, and a button down shirt yeah,

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Speaker 2: Because that's.

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Speaker 1: Something that you then have to build into your work

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Speaker 1: day before four o'clock as well is hair and makeup too.

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Speaker 1: How much of a time does that tend to take?

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Speaker 2: Am, Yeah, I usually do it. We have an editorial

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Speaker 2: Sure, you can find me at Tracy Davidson dot com.

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Speaker 2: You can find me at Lifting your Voice dot com,

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