1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. You know Boys is back and redod it 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: all in your mind. Yeah, now deep throating. This is 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: going the streets, the real the reil, goading, the distenfranchise, 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: the truth, escapegoating, and they ain't know where we speak 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: the truth, so they ain't quoted because we wrote it. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 1: The North South East coaches the ge be mocked for 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: keeping your head bobbing. It ain't no stopping and once 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: to be drops head by then the system is so 9 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: corrupt they threw the rock hot their heads and then 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: blame it on us. Don't get it twisted on colding. 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: We danced to put no butterment biscuits. It's Winnie d 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: y'all Ghetto Boys in the House back with another episode 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: of information and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: beautiful world. In the studio, Brian Angel Dog, what's up, homie? Man? 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Not much, man? 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: God is good? 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Man? 18 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: Ain't no man, I need to applaude you. 19 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: It's been a minute, man, Yeah, yeah, it's been a minute. Yes, 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: sir man, listen, let's let's let's jump right into it. Man. 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: I've been working on this album The Whole Truth. 22 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: You know what I was I just put it actually 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: just no, no, no, no, no, I ain't put. 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: It on pause. 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: I changed the name. 26 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Oh you changed the name? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so dope, 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: that's dope. 28 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Man, you know what I mean. 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 3: I might bring it back man on the next one. Man, 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 3: I changed it to, uh, I am Brian Angel. You 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, just for like branding purposes, you 32 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, because like everybody's so like caught 33 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: up in you know, me being a part of the group. 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: I guess this is kind of a way for me 35 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 3: to like kind of reintroduce myself to everybody into the world, 36 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: like as I am Brian Angel instead of like, you 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: know that guy from Day twenty six. 38 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: But the whole truth, that's cool, But the whole truth sounds. 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: Scaredleoss, you know what, man, I saund. 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: Like, some man, tell me talk about the whole truth. 41 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: Let me see what you're talking. 42 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,279 Speaker 3: About, you know, like honestly, man, Like I I had. 43 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: Some stuff on the project that was yeah, you know 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 45 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: I had to kind of dial it back man, cause 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: you know, my my uh. 47 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: My feelings had changed. 48 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: If I say that, you know what I'm saying, Like, 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: you know, different relationships that I never thought that I 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 3: would I would mend or even think about like being 51 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: even fixing you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: through prayer obviously you know what I'm saying. 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: Uh, you know they were fixed. 54 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: You know. 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: Uh, nothing's perfect, you know what I'm saying, but you 56 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: know they're fixed. 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: So what's up with Willie, Michael, quandtel and and uh Robert, 58 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: what's up? Oh? Man? 59 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: Ah? 60 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 3: Nothing, man, you know, we're just uh, you know, we're 61 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: doing like uh spot dates here and there, gearing up 62 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 3: to go on tour later this year. Uh. I wouldn't 63 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 3: own it from I an't supposed to talk about that 64 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: right now, but yeah, we're getting ready to go on 65 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: tour later on this year. 66 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: I can say that. 67 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, man, you know, everybody's good. 68 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: You know who are y'all going out on tour with? 69 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: That? 70 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: I can't tell you. 71 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: And also that type of stuff change anyway. 72 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: You know sometimes, Yeah, definitely definitely. 73 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. So man, let's go all the way back. Let's 74 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: let's let's get to your roots. Agay a town you know, 75 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: and what neighborhood Acres home the four Folks to the 76 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: folk now Acres Holmes is is a is a progressive neighborhood. 77 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: It it has a lot of people that uh that 78 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: are rooted in education, but also the four folk got 79 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: a grime inside of it too. And and so how 80 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: does a young Brian Angel find his place in Acres homes? 81 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: How do you get your footing out there and decide 82 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: that this is the route that I'm going to take? 83 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: Man, it was like, honestly, like I can remember, like 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: me trying to be out in the streets. 85 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know, I mean, everybody 86 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: got their story. You know what I'm saying. 87 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: I did this, I did that, I did. 88 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: It, and like you know, at one point I was 89 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: in the streets, you know what I'm saying. And like, 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: but honestly, like everybody would like tell me, bro, you 91 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: don't belong out here, man, Like go home, Like go 92 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: do some music. You know what I'm saying. Go go 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: do something positive with yourself. You know what I'm saying. 94 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 2: And uh, yeah, you know what I'm saying. 95 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: Like you know, you know, every once in a while, 96 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: you know, I'll pass by my little my little pay phone. 97 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: You know that was my lucky payphone, right, you know, I'm. 98 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: In somebody when they already. 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: Know yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what, man, I'm thankful. 100 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: Man, I'm thankful, like I never got caught up in 101 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: anything like too crazy. 102 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm I'm I'm thankful, 103 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 2: and I'm. 104 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: Thankful for like everybody that like told me like you 105 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 3: don't belong out here, bro, like there's something better for you. 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: So I'm definitely thankful for that. 107 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: Who do you think it was that greatest influencer who 108 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: told you that man kept you on the straightened era? 109 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: Man? 110 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: It was. 111 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: I mean honestly it was. Yeah. 112 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I had to say, man, uh my homie, 113 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 3: uh boo. Man, may he rest in peace? Man. Like 114 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: he's always telling me like, bro, man, I see you 115 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 3: doing this and doing that, so you traveling the world, 116 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: and you know what I'm saying, Like for him to 117 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: like say that and like pretty much prophesied, you know 118 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like he told. 119 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 2: Me, Man, you're gonna do this. 120 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: You're gonna do that, You're gonna travel the world, You're 121 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna do this, You're gonna make crazy money. 122 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: You're gonna do this, Like you don't belong out here, 123 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: you know, what I'm saying, Like, you know, it's unfortunate 124 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: that you know, he you know, he met his you know, 125 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: untimely death, you know what I'm saying. 126 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, in the street in the streets. 127 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 128 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: So for you know, to you know, even thinking about it, 129 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: like right now, it's like it's kind of crazy, you 130 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Like this man was telling me 131 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: everything that I needed to do, but like, had he 132 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: just done that as well? 133 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: I mean, because he was talented as well, you know, 134 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: but he was. 135 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: Really like rooting for me to like get out, you know, 136 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 3: I would, I would Like matter of fact, he paid 137 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: a studio time. 138 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: For me, like a couple of times. Wow. Yeah, you 139 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So and you guys were the 140 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: same age. 141 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 3: He was a little bit older than me. Yeah, he 142 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: was a little bit older than me. But you know, 143 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: he unfortunately didn't make it. But you know, I'm thankful 144 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: for him. 145 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: You know. Man, isn't it spooky how some people can 146 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: see the gift in you, see your talent, see your potential, 147 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: and although they may have potential, they're not willing to 148 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: watch their own materials, watch their own talent. Materialize their 149 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: own gift unfold and how they just become resigned to 150 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: their own circumstances. 151 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: You know what, I kind of look at it like. 152 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: He sorry for me, but maybe he couldn't see it 153 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: for himself, you know, And like I wish, I wish 154 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: that he had the opportunity to like even like see 155 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: like a little bit of what I've been blessed to, 156 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: you know, be able to do, Like had he just 157 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 3: stayed around like a little bit longer, like for him 158 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: to like actually see it and witness it like. 159 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: I would. 160 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: I would like to think that he. 161 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: Would have like left that that part of life alone. 162 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Was you giving him the same energy? Like, man, you 163 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: could do this too. Man, you know you got a 164 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: lot of talent. 165 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, yeah, you know definitely. I mean but you know, 166 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: I'm at the time, I'm a little bro. 167 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 168 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 1: I'm not so you think he got dancers? Yeah? 169 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, 170 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: he you know, he was you know, he was big bro. 171 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: I looked up to him, you know, and man, like 172 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: I said, like it's you know, it's it's sad and 173 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: unfortunate that like he didn't get the opportunity that I 174 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: felt like he deserved and like I know, like the 175 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: world would have like I loved him, Like he was 176 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: like a person that people would have gravitated to. 177 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 2: You know, he was a good dude. 178 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So I got your little brother in the house. 179 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, Brown. You know what I'm saying. 180 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: I want to go toward family, Like, you know, what 181 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: was that family dynamic like growing up in your household? Oh? 182 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: Man? 183 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: I was. 184 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: I was like the I was like the how can 185 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: I say? 186 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Man? I was the. 187 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: I was kind of like the eyeball. 188 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: Everybody kind of like knew what they were doing, and 189 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 3: you know, I didn't. I didn't know if I want 190 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: to play football, if I wanted to be you know, 191 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: Super Dug or or you know, do music or whatever. 192 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 3: But I think I think the older I got, I 193 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: kind of like started like kind of figuring out like 194 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: who I wanted to be and what I wanted to be. 195 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: And how old are you at this time? Man? 196 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: About like seventeen eighteen. That's when I kind of like 197 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: stepped away from the I don't want to call it ignorance, 198 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because you know, everybody takes 199 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: different walks in life to get to. 200 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: Who they are. You know what I'm saying it. 201 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: I would never knock anybody that was in their lifestyle, 202 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, because you know, I know 203 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: some people that were in their lifestyle change their lives 204 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: and are you know, extremely successful now in helping other people, 205 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: you know so. But I think I was the I 206 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 3: was kind of like the weird one in the family where. 207 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: Everybody was like, oh, man, you need to quit the dreams. 208 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: Man, Like I'm that that's a that's a pipe dream. 209 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 3: It's never gonna happen. It's never gonna happen. It's never 210 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: gonna happen. But like I had to, I had to 211 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 3: realize that, man, like, nobody's gonna see my dream the 212 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 3: way that I see my dream. Like God didn't give 213 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: my dream to you or to the next person. 214 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: He gave my dream to me. 215 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: So obviously not everybody's gonna understand, you know, my dream 216 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 3: or the passion or what I feel for it. 217 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: You know. And where was you getting that inspiration from? 218 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: Was it television, was it a family member, was it 219 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: something else? 220 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: Man? 221 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: I think it was like, well, one, me not wanting 222 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: to let my mom down, you know, I didn't. I 223 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: didn't want to continue that that lifestyle. 224 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: You know. 225 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: I know people people gonna see this and be like 226 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: what Brian was what? 227 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: But yeah, I didn't want to let my mom down 228 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 3: also too, man Like, I mean obviously, you know. 229 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: You you see, you see things, and you see nice things. 230 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 3: You know you want to go out and get it, 231 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: you know the best way, you know how. But yet 232 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: and still you know you want to you know, be 233 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 3: you know positive, you know you don't want to be 234 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 3: no no negativity, if that makes any sense. I think 235 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: just seeing other artists and and and seeing what they 236 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 3: were doing, I was like, you know what, I can 237 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: do that as well. 238 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Inquire like most singers, Yeah. 239 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in. I was inquired. 240 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: Man. 241 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 3: I'll never forget I had a choir teacher, mister douglas Man. 242 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: Like this dude stepped in as like a dad to me. 243 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: I'll never forget a man at Aldean High School, man, 244 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: mister Douglas Man. He was like a father to me, man, 245 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 3: Like he really really like took me under his wing 246 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: and like he really like kind of kept me out 247 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: of trouble. 248 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, now, how what kind of student were you? 249 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: Believe it or not. 250 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: Man, I was like I was a decent student. Man, 251 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: I made all like straight a's man, believe it or not. 252 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: I was like I was the quiet. I was a quiet, 253 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 3: geeky student that like nobody knew was doing the other stuff. 254 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I think that's why I 255 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: kind of got away with a lot of things as well. 256 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: So you made a's on your grades and you made 257 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: e's and conduct, yes, oh man, yes, sir. Teacher's dream 258 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: not calls any real problems. 259 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. 260 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: That's a teacher's dream. You're making a's and you're quiet, 261 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: because a lot of times teachers will give a student 262 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: a passing grade just if they don't cause them any problems, 263 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: just because they don't cause them problems. 264 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 2: Man. I played football too, so that kind of good position. 265 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: Quarterback what, yes, sir? For All Day? Yes, sir? You 266 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: did you start? Yes, sir. 267 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 3: I went to Westfield for a year and then transferred 268 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: to All Day. 269 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: I played one game of JV balled out. 270 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: When I say balled out, I mean balled out my 271 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: sophomore year, ball out my very first game. 272 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: I got moved up. 273 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: My second game, I rode the bench for a little bit, 274 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 3: starting quarterback got hurt. 275 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: I stepped in and I made it mine. 276 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: So you were the Tom Brady. 277 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: Tom Brady the. 278 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: Varsity, the varsity quarterback, and then junior High. No, not 279 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: junior High, but as a junior, you're the varsity. 280 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: Quarterback, sophomore junior, as. 281 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: Sophomore juniors, three year letter man. 282 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, people don't understand man. You know, I'm balls. Man, 283 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: I'm balls. 284 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: And that was back at the time when they was 285 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: not really protecting the quarterbacks. 286 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 3: None of Yes, sir, I'm not that big, you know 287 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So I was getting but you know, 288 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: I figured out the offense. You know what I'm saying. 289 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: You know, honestly, to me, if you play the game 290 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: up here, it's a lot easier to play the game 291 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: out here, you know what I'm saying. 292 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 2: So I was just playing a game up here. 293 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: Being a former quarterback, a star quarterback. How do you 294 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: feel about Tom Brady? Why does Tom Brady rank in 295 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: your all time great. 296 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: I would have to say Tom would rank at number three. 297 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: And who's two and one? 298 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: Actually I would say I would say number one is Montana, Okay, 299 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: Joe Montana like grat because I mean, yeah, I think 300 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 3: about it. Man, whenever Joe was playing, ain't no way 301 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: in hell excuse my language, but ain't nowhere in hell, 302 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: like Tom Brady would have been able to play back 303 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: when they played, like when Moon played back when back 304 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 3: when you know what I'm saying, like l Way play 305 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: like Tom wouldn't survive. 306 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: He wouldn't survived, I know for I know. 307 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: And why are you so shit? 308 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: Because man, like the rules made the game softer by 309 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: the time Tom got in, by the time by the 310 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: time Tom played. Think about it, Tom came in and 311 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: bledsoe had the little helmet helmet thing, but he was 312 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: doing so good. 313 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: Uh what what's the coach name? 314 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: Uh? 315 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 3: Billy Chick? Was like, man, keep him in yo. Tom 316 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: wouldn't have survived playing in the era with Joe Montana, Yeah, 317 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: damn Marino? Uh who else? 318 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: Uh? 319 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: John l Way? Who else was quarterback? 320 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: And back then Warren Moon man even like and he 321 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: don't even get to like the recognition that he deserves. 322 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: Williams, Yeah, Doug Williams. 323 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. But here's the thing, right, And I guess that's 324 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: subjective because will if he could have really played in 325 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: that era, because we don't really know how tough Tom 326 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: Brady really is because he's never had to know that 327 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: the hit was coming. For certain, Like, he could sit 328 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: back in that pocket and he can make accurate throws 329 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: because he know the HiT's not coming. You see, those 330 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: guys knew the hit was coming, you know, the Montanas, 331 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: they knew that hit was coming, and they still had 332 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: to deliver that ball. They still had to that that 333 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: that tackler, and they still won championships. So yeah, you know, 334 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: as a thrower, if you just gonna go strictly on 335 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: throwing being accurate, he's one of the best in that regard. 336 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: But again, I gotta put an asterisk near his name 337 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: because just for the simple fact that he didn't take 338 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: the hit. He did not take the hits. Man, I 339 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: don't care what none of y'all like that said Tom 340 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: Brady stands. I don't care what none of y'all say. 341 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: He's just not He's not that dude to me. He 342 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: won the championships, Yeah, but he's not that dude to 343 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: me because he did not take the hits. Little Boys 344 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: reloaded podcast will be right back after spreet speaking of hits. 345 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: You had some yourself, y'all like that speaking of hits. 346 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: Y'all came out, Well, let me, y'all came out and debuted. Uh, well, 347 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: you didn't debut, but you eventually reached number one on 348 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: with your first album, Sir. And that was what two 349 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, thousand and eight. And see in two 350 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: thousand and nine, y'all back though with your SOA with 351 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: your sophomore album, Sir, with a top two hit on 352 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,679 Speaker 1: Billboard's Top two hundred. You say, y'all got all the 353 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: way to number two. A not easy to do. But 354 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: let's back up before the hits came. Where the hits came, 355 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: you guys were compete on making the band. Making the 356 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: band was a huge success. I mean, it was one 357 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: of those things. I mean, it's it's kind of like 358 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: stampeding in your mind, like the Chappelle Show at one time, 359 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, like the Chappelle's Show or like, well, not 360 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: in a funny way, but I'm just saying as far 361 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 1: as in a historical way, like in the level of 362 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: importance and how how popular it was people were watching 363 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: making the band, and if you was on making the band, 364 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: you was a household name. And you guys all became 365 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: household names by competing on making the band, and when 366 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: you got the news it was any point that you 367 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: thought that you wasn't gonna make the cut because'll you 368 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: guys were competing to be in the group. Day twenty 369 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: six was the name of the group already established? Is 370 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: that right? Okay, we'll come back to how you came 371 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: up with the name, but let's get it. Let's get 372 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: into you know, the actual competition side of it, and 373 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: how you felt once you realized that you were going 374 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: to be in the in the game. 375 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: Like honestly, like every week, I was like I didn't 376 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: know what was going to happen, Like honestly, like that's 377 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: like an uncomfortable feeling. You know, you don't know whether 378 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: or not you're going You might be going home today, 379 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 3: you know, just according to how Puff feel. You know, 380 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: Puff come in. He might he might be in a moved. 381 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 3: He might send everybody home and bring in ten more people. 382 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 3: You know, you never know. Uh, I'm thankful. I'm thankful 383 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: to Puff, you know what I'm saying. Like you know, 384 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 3: people always ask. 385 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: Me, man, what is it like work? 386 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: When him and like, honestly, I'm thankful, you know what 387 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 3: I'm saying. Like he saw something in me to bless 388 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: me with the opportunity. So I'm thankful for that. So, no, 389 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 3: I ain't got nothing bad to say about Puff. Spoke 390 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: with him, man, it's been about a year and a half. Yeah, 391 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: but you know, I mean, you know he you know, I. 392 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: Spoke to him on the phone. You spoke to him 393 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: in person? 394 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 3: Ah, it was No, it was in person. 395 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: I think I was. It was an event in La right, Yeah, 396 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: but like I mean, you. 397 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 3: Know, it's it's always love, you know, It's it's nothing 398 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: ever like negative or anything like that. Because honestly, really 399 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: and truly like our situation wasn't a negative situation, you know. 400 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, So so let me get this straight. You're 401 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: not blaming Puffy for any loss of income anything that 402 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: you felt like you would you you deserve but you 403 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: didn't get. You're not gonna blame Puffy. 404 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: No, sir, No, how can you do this? 405 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: How can you do that? I mean, because everybody's blaming 406 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: you're not. 407 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, let's just be real man, like 408 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 3: like this is you know, it's it's the music business, 409 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like, I mean, let's just 410 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 3: be real, like it's it's ninety five percent business and 411 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: the rest is everything else. If whatever you can fit 412 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 3: in a five percent, it's everything else. 413 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: But I mean we, I mean we. 414 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 3: Understood that that that first initial contract it was non negotiable. 415 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: You know, it was just how the how the show 416 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 3: was tied into the contract. But I will huh yeah, yeah. Basically, 417 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: like you either take it or you don't get the 418 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 3: opportunity to go to New York in an audition for 419 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: for Diddy. We don't care, but it will be somebody 420 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 3: in that in that place, you know what I'm saying. 421 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: So it was like it was kind of almost like 422 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 3: you damn if you do you damn if you don't. Man, 423 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 3: how can I say this? I don't want I don't 424 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: want to say the wrong thing. I mean, I'll tell 425 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: you truth. But like honestly, like he really looked out 426 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 3: for us when it came when it came time to 427 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 3: renegotiating our deal for our second album, Like he really 428 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: he really like looked. 429 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: Out for us. Like see, let me tell you something, man, 430 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: And I really want a lot of these artists out 431 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: here to hear me. New artists, old artists, everything in between. 432 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: I think that it's important when people come into the 433 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: music industry, that they understand all the music business, that 434 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: they understand that it is a business, and they understand 435 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: that greater people before them have had shitty contracts. It's 436 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 1: kind of like how it is. I mean, it's just 437 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: how it is. And you going in, before you ever 438 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: even look at a contract, you already know nine times 439 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: out of ten you're probably gonna have a shitty contract 440 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: because everybody's had everybody. I mean, Michael had a shitty countract, 441 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: Prince had it. I mean, these are the two greatest 442 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: guys in music besides myself. You know what I'm saying, 443 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: whoever done it? 444 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 3: Man? 445 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, many had a shitty contract. 446 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: But the way I look at it is that like 447 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: if I, yeah, it would be cool if I would 448 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: have had a better contract, But at the end of 449 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: the day, as a man, I still signed the contract. 450 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: And not only did I sign that contract, sometimes people 451 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: sign again and again. Now after all of that is over, 452 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: at some point, a lot of times guys end up 453 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: not doing the right thing with their money, and now 454 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: they ain't got no bread, and now they looking around 455 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: and they pointing fingers, you you, you, you you. I'm 456 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: not saying you is right. I'm just saying when I 457 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: say you, that person that you feel like wronged you, 458 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that person is right. I'm just 459 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: saying that you consciously signed the contract. They did not 460 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: put a gun to your head, and you saw a 461 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: benefit and signing that contract and receiving whatever funds that 462 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: you were receiving at that time. So at that time, 463 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: it was all good, and you were so damn happy 464 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: and you was just loving everything about it. And then 465 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: you made money. You may not have made all the 466 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: money that you wanted to make. I remember Muhammad Ali, 467 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: the Muhammad Ali and the George Foreman fight. They were 468 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: supposed to make five million dollars or something, and I 469 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: think I least said he saw about a million or something, 470 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: but he ain't never had a million or something before. 471 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 1: So it's like, you take that million, it's no way possible. 472 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: You're supposed to. You get a million dollars and you're 473 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: supposed to blow it. Anybody that gets their hands on 474 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: a million dollars should be able to turn that million 475 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: dollars into ten million, and ten million into one hundred 476 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: and so on and so on and so on. At 477 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: the very least you should never be broke again if 478 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: you get a million dollars. Fact. And so I'm just 479 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: looking at like, where is the accountability for the people 480 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: who have made the money for the money that you 481 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: did make? Where is the count of the accountability for 482 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 1: you multiplying your money or at least, at the very 483 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: least sustaining yourself financially. 484 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: You know what I say this. 485 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: And you know this is this is something that I 486 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: tell like every up and coming artist, like every other 487 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 3: coming artist that I was asking me, oh man, like 488 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: any advice you know, you know, any advice like I 489 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 3: always tell them, like for one, like, you know, your 490 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 3: dream is your dream, you know what I'm saying, Like, 491 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: so don't let anybody like deter you from your dream. 492 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 3: Don't let nobody tell you it can't happen, because it's 493 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: your vision. 494 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: Obviously God instilled it in you, and you can see it. 495 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: If you can see I'm a firm believing if you 496 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: can see it, it's achievable, Like if you can picture 497 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 3: it in your mind, if you can picture like I 498 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 3: want to go out here and make some fucking fucking 499 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 3: boots that fly. If you can envision that, like obviously 500 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: you can't. You can't see that, but I can see it. 501 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 502 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: You gotta apply yourself. So with that being said, you 503 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 3: get this deal. You know it's a shitty deal. You know, 504 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: you absolutely know it's a shitty deal. But you work hard, 505 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: you grind hard, like that way when it comes back 506 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: time for that second album, it's time to talk. It's 507 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: time to talk, it's time to negotiate, you know what 508 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like and like, that's what a lot of 509 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: artists don't do, because artists get content with this show 510 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: money or I get to get on the GRAMD and 511 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: I get the stunt and put a hold of money 512 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 3: to my ear and I get to do this and 513 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: do that. Man, excuse me my language. Fuck all that, 514 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: fuck all that, fuck all that, like that money it 515 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: don't last for ever, It really don't. I mean, especially 516 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 3: like if your team not set up properly, like like 517 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 3: hours was, like. 518 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: You will you will. 519 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: Be out here hurt. You will be out here hurt. 520 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: And if you ain't got your sanity, or if you ain't. 521 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: Got like the. 522 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 2: Bounce back, you will be out here sad. You will 523 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: be out here lost, and you will be out here. 524 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 3: Hiding from people, not knowing, not knowing what to do next, 525 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: if that makes any sense, Like you still riding off 526 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 3: of off of Oh, I had a hit single back 527 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 3: in you know, twenty twelve, But I don't even want 528 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 3: to step out the side at the house right now 529 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,239 Speaker 3: because I'm not hot right now. 530 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: I'm not hot. 531 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: No, Like you gotta, Yo, the little leverage that you had, 532 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 3: you got to figure out a way to capitalize off that. 533 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: Like, Yo, man, I get out here, I hustle. 534 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: Mu's go loe to you. 535 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: I hustle, I hustle. I get out here and I hustle. 536 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: Like that's the best thing. I mean, that's the best 537 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 3: advice I can give anybody. Man, Like, Yo, once you want, 538 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 3: you start, just don't stop. Just do not stop at all. 539 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: So you guys, five boys from the hood y'all get 540 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: up to New York. You sign this big deal with 541 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: one of the biggest producers in the game, Puffy. You 542 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: signed the bad Boy Records. You get back to back 543 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: hit albums, you're touring with the like with the likes 544 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: of Genuine and Brian McKnight Destiny's Child. You're getting the money. 545 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, all that happened before huh all 546 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: that happened. 547 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: That's right. Destiny's child was right when you were signing 548 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: him with Matthew and we got to talk about, man, 549 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: you gotta talk about that. That's that's right. We gotta 550 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: talk about that. Yeah. But but but yeah, but you 551 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: you've done you you did that with the other group, right. 552 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: And what was the name of. 553 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 3: Mason, Mason, Mason Road, Mason Road yep, man, Man. 554 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: Okay, we gotta talk about Mason Road. But let's let's 555 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: finish with day twenty six. Yes, sir, you guys win 556 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: Best R and B Male Group, Sir at the BT 557 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: Awards in two thousand and nine. Three years later, twenty twelve, 558 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: you guys break up? What caused the breakup? I need 559 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: the truth, man, I need I need the. 560 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 2: Truth honestly, man. For me, it was. 561 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 3: I just didn't like how our business was being handled, 562 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: you know, and I wasn't gonna stick. 563 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: Around for it. 564 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: You know, I just wasn't who. 565 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: Was messing up the business man? Man. We gotta know, man, 566 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: you know the story got on. 567 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: The team, man, our a team. 568 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: I'll say that. I'll say that somebody was in control 569 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: of that money, man, somebody was touching the money before everybody. 570 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean definitely, you know, definitely a person 571 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: that was touching the money before any of us were 572 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: touching it. 573 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: You know, put that out there. This got a politician, man, 574 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: you never was touching the money. 575 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 3: You never know, man, you know I might be running 576 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: for you know, president, you know, and and and you 577 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: know next year, you know anything. 578 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta gotta be careful what I say. 579 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: So your manager burns you. Okay, your manager burns you. Now. Now, Now, 580 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: who who was the guy in the group that was 581 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: the basically the leader? And I know I don't really 582 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: like to say use the word leader, but there's always 583 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: somebody who says, who gathers the troops and say, okay, 584 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: let's do it like this, what y'all want to do? Okay, 585 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: I'll speak on it. Who was the spokesperson for the 586 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: group when ship was going down? 587 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,719 Speaker 3: It was I'll say it was me because I started 588 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: hearing things and at the time, like our our road manager, 589 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Uh, he had came to 590 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 3: me and was like, yo, be like I just want 591 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 3: to tell you, like bro, like. 592 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 2: You, you know you you're a really good dude. 593 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: Man, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, 594 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 3: I don't feel that it's right what's going on. But 595 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 3: he was like, yo, like you'll be a fool. Well no, no, 596 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: I rewinded. He was like on some like YO, like 597 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 3: fuck it, I'm say it, you'll be a fool to 598 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 3: think that YO check and this person's check. 599 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: Are the same. And who is this person? 600 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 3: Man? You know what day twenty six, new project coming? 601 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 2: No, man, you know what? 602 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 3: Man like honestly, like I'm I'm never one to like 603 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: Croyd with spill milk. 604 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: Man, you know what I'm saying, Like, I. 605 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: Get you, but that's the same thing with me though, 606 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: Like I can respectfully respectfully say that I had a 607 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: disagreement with rap a Lot Jay Prince with my contract. 608 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: I left and things fell apart, and then we came 609 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: back together. We fixed. I can say his name. You 610 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It ain't it ain't the boogey man. 611 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: It's not a ghost. This is a human being as 612 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: a person. So I can say this is I had 613 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: a fall out with this and we patched it back 614 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: up and now you know, we dogs again and it's 615 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: been like that for years, you know, So look, man, 616 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: in life. You preach your eulogy the where you live 617 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: your life. And if you don't want people telling the 618 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: truth about the stuff that you did, don't do it facts. 619 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: So I have no problem with people saying if they 620 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: feel like really D wronged them in any kind of way, 621 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: and they speak on it if I wrong them. What 622 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: I have a problem with is the lies facts. If 623 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: somebody lie facts, you try to lie on me, then 624 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a problem. But if you say that's 625 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: what it is, that's what it was cool because I 626 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: know one thing about me. I ain't gonna fuck over 627 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: nobody who didn't deserve to be fucked over. You did 628 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So if I get them, that's because 629 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: they deserved it, and I'll speak on it. I'll stand 630 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: on it. 631 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: You know what, don't see like I don't. I don't 632 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: work like that. Like me, man, I don't want nothing 633 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: more then what's meant for me. 634 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: I'm the same way when when I say fuck over 635 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: somebody for clarity, I mean do them dirty. When I 636 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: say do your dirty, you get what you get when 637 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: you do me dirty. When you offend me, I ain't 638 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: got nothing for you but some pain. Like you do 639 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: me dirty. I ain't got nothing for you but some pain, bro. 640 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: So I don't care what you say and how you 641 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: say it or whatever you get anything. Man Like, I 642 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: don't care about your mom and your grandmama, your kids. 643 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: I was I was everybody. Everybody get to smoke. 644 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: You know. 645 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: It's on that I promised. I was on that. 646 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 3: Whoo. 647 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: I was on that. 648 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: I was on that. Man Like. 649 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: But man. 650 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 3: Me me deciding to like come back to the because 651 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 3: like honestly, really and truly like me getting back in 652 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 3: the group, that wasn't even like the plan, you know. 653 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: At the time, man Like, I just felt like there 654 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: was so much coming down on me, you know what 655 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 656 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: And I was like talking to God like so much. 657 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: Like I mean, don't get me wrong, like I talk. 658 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 3: To God like all day every day, but like at 659 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: the time, man like, I just felt like I was 660 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 3: so heavy with so much going on in my personal life, 661 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: in my career everything. Like I felt like I just 662 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 3: needed to like chill out and talk to God. And 663 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 3: I did that, and I felt like God was telling me, like, yo, 664 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: you trust me? 665 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,800 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, God, I trust you. 666 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: What's up? 667 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 3: And he was like I need you to call. Make 668 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: the phone call just to make things right, not not 669 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 3: not like to get back in the group or anything 670 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: like that, just to make things right. Say what's on 671 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 3: your mind, because like mind you like, I never actually 672 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: spoke to anybody when I exited the group. I exited 673 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 3: with an Instagram post and I blocked everybody. What Yeah, yeah, 674 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 3: so I nobody. I didn't talk to anybody, and so 675 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 3: you know, I, you know, I spoke with them and 676 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 3: I told them exactly the information that I found. I 677 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 3: told them where it came from, showed them the proof, 678 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: you know, obviously denial. You know what I'm saying, And 679 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 3: that's cool. I got off my chest, you know what 680 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 3: I'm saying, and I felt I felt so much lighter. 681 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 3: I felt so much better after having those conversations. After that, man, like, 682 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 3: you know, opportunity came with us possibly getting back in 683 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 3: the studio working on another project, and we end up 684 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 3: doing that. We end up, man, we got an amazing album. Man, 685 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 3: like I can't wait for the world to hear it. 686 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all reconnected in twenty two right last year? 687 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 3: Yes, sign your sign patched it back up? Yeah, Yeah, 688 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: the album is crazy. 689 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: I saw a photograph of you guys too. Man, all 690 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: y'all still look young and you know fresh. I guess 691 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: black black don't crack real talk, man, y'all look like 692 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: y'all could be a group that come out for the 693 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 1: first time to date. 694 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: Man, if you hit this new project, you would you 695 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,479 Speaker 3: would think the look, Yo, the music is surpassing the look. 696 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie like this is. 697 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 3: I mean, my solo album is crazy too, but this 698 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: this Day twenty six album is crazy. 699 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: Can you do me a favor? 700 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 3: Man? 701 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: What's up? Bro? So that song that you sung to 702 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: get your spot, well it actually wouldn't. It didn't really 703 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: give you your spot, but it made everybody look at 704 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: you like, oh yeah, he gonna make it. He gonna 705 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: be in the group. Are you talking about the road man? 706 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: When you pop that out on? Oh yeah yeah. And 707 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: let me say this too. Being a Houstonian myself and 708 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: I could speak for everybody else. We were so proud 709 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: of you. I appreciate you. We would ride for you. 710 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 2: What I appreciate You know what's crazy? 711 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 1: Man? 712 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: I always say, man, like, Yo, do you usould not 713 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 2: rock with me? 714 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: Or what? 715 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 3: Man? Cause it's like, Yo, I see this artist that artist, 716 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 3: this artist, that artist. 717 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 2: Like, Yo, I'm writing your back yard, Yo. Like these 718 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: promoters are. 719 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: Different, man, You're different, That's true. And I will say 720 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: that the promoters are different, But the fans are different too. 721 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: Many of the fans are different too, because I remember 722 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: one time I was at a club called what was 723 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: that huge club off of I Hush back in the day, Yo, 724 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: hush Man. I was at Hush and Little Wayne is 725 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 1: in concert. Little Wayne is in concert, and it's one 726 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,959 Speaker 1: of those nights where they're charging five hundred dollars to park. 727 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: I think I was there at night. 728 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the city came out and it's is when Wayne 729 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: was on fire fire, So it's like they're charging five 730 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: hundred to park man to park your car, anything else 731 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 1: you had to park down the street five hundred to park. 732 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm standing outside a basketball player, one of pro basketball players, 733 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: and a few girls and we are in the front 734 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at they got a VIP line, a 735 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: super VIP line, and general admission. General admission was one 736 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, the VIP line was two fifty, and the 737 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: super VIP was a thousand, and all of the lines 738 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: was filled. But for what this place, you know, The 739 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: capacity was three thousand. It was filled and they everywhere, 740 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: I mean, people came out of the best and I'm 741 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: looking and I'm like, look at this shit. I was 742 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: hating on the cold this motherfucker. I was like, I 743 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: was like, look at this shit. I say, these fuckers 744 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: can do this shit for us. And this girl said, ah, 745 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 1: WILLI D we love you. We love to get old boys. 746 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna do this for y'all. Say stop lying, she say. 747 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: She said, we do love y'all. Y'all just got to 748 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: give us some new music. I said, why do we 749 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,959 Speaker 1: have to keep on putting out new music to get 750 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: this type of support? Mains ain't put out a damn 751 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: record in two decades and y'all still going to the 752 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: to the concerts and filling up the arenas for man, 753 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: why do we have to keep putting out new music? 754 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: The Rolling Stones ain't put out a damn album in 755 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: a hundred. 756 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 2: Years YouTube Rolling Stones? 757 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,919 Speaker 1: Why do we have to continue to put our brand, 758 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: brand new music for y'all to appreciate us? 759 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,720 Speaker 3: Honestly, we don't support each other like everybody else support 760 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 3: each other. And it's sad, you know what I'm saying. 761 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,879 Speaker 3: Us as black folks, like we be so quick too. 762 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 3: I mean, you don't get me wrong, Like like I love 763 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 3: my people, like I absolutely love my people, but like 764 00:40:54,520 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 3: we we're so into these these these fast like cancer 765 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 3: culture and we're so into Oh. All it takes is 766 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 3: the right person to say the wrong thing about you 767 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 3: and that person's followers. Because you know, DJ Envy and I, 768 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,479 Speaker 3: like years ago, you know, back when we first became 769 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 3: a group, he and I had like a you know, 770 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: we bumped heads for for for us for a second. 771 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 3: Well what it wasn't just Dj Envy, it was it 772 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 3: was Miss Jay as well. You remember when Envy was 773 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 3: over at uh Hot ninety seven before before he went 774 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 3: to Power. They you know, they were like, you know, 775 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 3: basically like calling us, you know, gay twenty six. 776 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: What Yeah. 777 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: I was like, yo, like, dude, you call us that 778 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: one more time, it's gonna be a problem, you know. 779 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 2: And you know, he mind you. 780 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 3: We're on air, this the number one station in the 781 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 3: entire country. 782 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 2: Let alone the world. 783 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and you're calling this gay 784 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 3: twenty six. You gotta understand, bro, when you say stuff 785 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 3: like that, you got people that follow and hang on 786 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 3: to every single thing that you say, so you become 787 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 3: an influence to this person. You know what I'm saying, Like, 788 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 3: watch how you handle me, because just like you got kids, 789 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 3: I got kids. I got to take care of as well, 790 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So like be just be 791 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 3: mindful of the words that you that you put out there, especially. 792 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 2: You on the radio. Bro, you on the radio. And 793 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 2: he was like, you know what, I get it, I 794 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 2: get it, my bad. 795 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: So why did he say he was saying it in 796 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 1: the first place. Was he saying it just to be funny? 797 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: He thought that, you know, he had some type of evidence. 798 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: What's what's no? 799 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 3: I think that was a thing to do, you know 800 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. We you know, we some we're an 801 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 3: R and B singing group. Obviously, you know that's the 802 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 3: thing that everybody want to say, Oh he an R 803 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 3: and B singer, he a little whatever whatever. But I 804 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 3: think I think missus Jay had gotten offended because the 805 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 3: group had we had been interviewed by them before, and 806 00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 3: we had kind of went in there with a plan, 807 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 3: like a strategy, you know what I'm saying, because we 808 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 3: knew like Miss Jay was gonna go in because she 809 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 3: goes she used to go in on everybody. 810 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: So we were like, Yo, we're just gonna go in there. 811 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 3: We're gonna butter up, We're gonna be sweet, you know 812 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, and hopefully you know what I'm saying, 813 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 3: that'll you know, get us past the other stuff. 814 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: And you know, it did that first time, but it 815 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: was weird. 816 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 3: They made a request to interview us again like three 817 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 3: weeks later, and Yo, they brought in a huge like no, lie, 818 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 3: sandwich had to be about ten feet for Mike, for 819 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 3: Big Mike. They brought in like a twelve foot long 820 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 3: sandwich and they were going even harder. We're calling us 821 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,399 Speaker 3: gay twenty six, Gay twenty six, And I was just like. 822 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: Yo, they said this, why yacht there wasn't saying that. 823 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 1: Why y'all were there? Yeah, they called y'all y'all were there? 824 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why we almost Yeah yeah, well like yeah. 825 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 2: It was, it was, it was I mean, you know 826 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 2: that was yo. That was literally like almost sixteen years ago. 827 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: That was a while ago. 828 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man saying. 829 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: Something like that. 830 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 3: Yeah No, I mean, like you know what though, man, honestly, 831 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 3: like I like listen to them now and like I 832 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 3: even watch it on v h one and and and 833 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 3: uh BT, like yo, like the growth in him and 834 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 3: Charlemagne is like it's crazy, it's crazy, crazy crazy because 835 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 3: like yo, I remember like when we we did Wendy Williams, 836 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,879 Speaker 3: and Wendy Williams was going in on a group as well, 837 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 3: but she was like, well, you know what, I'm getting 838 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 3: a little HRR you do from everybody but Brian and 839 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 3: you know all the main was cool then, you know 840 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 841 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 2: But yeah, we had a problem. 842 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 3: Well they had a problem with Wendy Williams as well, 843 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 3: so you know, obviously you know that's home team. So 844 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,919 Speaker 3: if they got a problem, I got a problem too, 845 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 3: you know. So I mean that's just kind of how 846 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 3: it went. 847 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,359 Speaker 1: Man. 848 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 3: But like the growth and both those guys are like 849 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 3: night and day, like you can tell like they were 850 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 3: young back then and like to like see them now, 851 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 3: it's like wow, the growth is like uncanny. 852 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: Reloaded podcasts will be right back after the poet who 853 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 1: reached out to who to put the group back together, well. 854 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 3: I reached out to them just to talk, just to 855 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 3: get it off my chest, you know what I'm saying 856 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 3: that I was like, this is not for me to 857 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 3: get back into group or anything like that. 858 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 2: This is just, you know, I need to get this 859 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 2: off my off, my heart, off my soul, you know. 860 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 3: And my my play cousin a mirror who I hadn't 861 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 3: talked to in a while either. He called wind of it, 862 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 3: and he's a super successful songwriter. He's written for like 863 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 3: August Alsina, TLC, a couple other people. He reached out 864 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 3: to Sean McMillan. Sean McMillan like writes all of August 865 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:28,240 Speaker 3: Alcina's music, Like every single song you've heard from August 866 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,240 Speaker 3: Sean has written. 867 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,279 Speaker 2: He reached out to. 868 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 3: Sean was like, Yo, I'm gonna reach out to Brian 869 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 3: and like try to see if he can get back, 870 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 3: well if he'd be willing to get back in a group, 871 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 3: and if so, like I want you to like put 872 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 3: together a project for him. So we all got on 873 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 3: the phone, we talked, we chopped it up. I was like, 874 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 3: you know, I you know, I'll see what it's about, 875 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:56,280 Speaker 3: you know. And obviously you know, they started sending music 876 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 3: and everything else like that, and I'm like, okay, you know, 877 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 3: some some good music, you know, make you come back, 878 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 3: you know. So yeah, man, we went out to Atlanta 879 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 3: for a whole stuff, like a month and a half 880 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,560 Speaker 3: and we recorded the album. Man, it's crazy, like topped 881 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 3: the bottom like crazy. 882 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 883 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's pretty much how we got back together. 884 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't It wasn't nothing like you know, 885 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 3: like you would have wanted it to be, like you know, 886 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 3: it wasn't like you know, party. You know, it was 887 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 3: just like, yo, you know what, like I got this 888 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 3: opportunity and if y'all want to do it, it's here, and 889 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 3: you know, talking amongst the group, man, we all decided 890 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 3: we were going to do it. 891 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: Let me tell you how I remember Mason road breaking up. 892 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: This is just from the whispers that I heard. I 893 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 1: heard that everything was good until you guys got the 894 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: contract and then some of the guys you know, had 895 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 1: a problem with with the contract. 896 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 2: No. 897 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 3: Uh, everything was cool until some of us start realizing, 898 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 3: like yo, like this cat and not for to do 899 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 3: nothing with us, We're just gonna be sitting here wasting 900 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 3: our lives away. 901 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,479 Speaker 1: That was made y'all think that because y'all there. 902 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: Was never any contracts that came yeah with genuine jagged is. 903 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: No, No, these were all so these were all promotional dates. 904 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, for a whole entire tour, like we were just 905 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 3: out there, no real like crazy. 906 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the truth, bro, I ain't really 907 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: mad at y'all didn't get paid about it. I mean, 908 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm not in the skin and 909 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: I didn't have to go through the experience. But I'm 910 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: just saying I'm not mad about a group who ain't 911 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: sold no records not getting paid on tour, you know 912 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So so you know we went on 913 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: tour and after the tour, how long are you sitting 914 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 1: on the shelf before you guys say yo, no, this 915 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:15,680 Speaker 1: is not working. About a year, you know, and there's 916 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: no activity whatsoever. Man. 917 00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 3: We were rehearse about sixteen hours a day. And not 918 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 3: only did we rehearse there, like we recorded there at 919 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 3: the studio. I lived in the studio at the time, 920 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 3: like I ain't no where to go, like I was 921 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 3: living there, so like my my life, my everything was 922 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 3: at Music World. Yes, my life was at that studio, 923 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 3: like all my clothes everything, and I remember, like. 924 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 2: I ain't up getting a job. 925 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: And for clarification, when you say you lived at the studio, 926 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: did you was that your like address. 927 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I slept in in the back room of the studio. Okay, 928 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 3: you remember how music World was, right, yeah, all right, 929 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 3: you go all the way back and there was a 930 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 3: lounge right here in the very very bad and then 931 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 3: there was a door in that lounge where she where 932 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 3: she kept all the like Destiny's childs like. 933 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 2: Touring stuff. 934 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 3: I slept in the back room. Miss Tina walked in 935 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 3: on me one time. I was sleep I had to 936 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 3: blanket over my head and she's like, oh, baby, I'm sorry. 937 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. Man, 938 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 3: Miss Tina man man one of the nicest man you know, 939 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 3: man like man, Miss Tina one of the nicest souls 940 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 3: on this earth. 941 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: Man. 942 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,839 Speaker 2: She was like, baby, you've been living back here. I 943 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 2: was like, yes, ma'am. She was like, I gotta go 944 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 2: talk to Matthew. 945 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 3: And man, I remember I remember going to ask Matthew. 946 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 3: At the time I had I had like this little 947 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,760 Speaker 3: station wagon, you know what I'm saying. And I remember 948 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 3: my water pump was broke on it, so I couldn't 949 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,479 Speaker 3: like go to work nothing. And I went and asked 950 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 3: Matthew for seventy eight dollars. That was gonna pay for 951 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 3: the water pump and the installation on it. Dude told 952 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 3: me I ain't got it, kind of kind of like 953 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 3: rub me the wrong way. I was like, kind of 954 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,879 Speaker 3: like you ain't got it on you, well, you don't 955 00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 3: have it at all. He was like, I don't have 956 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 3: it at all. And I remember kind of like telling 957 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 3: Miss Tina about it. Miss Tina like literally reaching her 958 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 3: wallet and like bless me with one hundred dollars so 959 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 3: I can get my car fixed. 960 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,800 Speaker 1: See see that ain't the Matthew. I know. So when 961 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,600 Speaker 1: that when that went down, you. 962 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 3: Know, because Matthew ain't got nothing cast up said about me. 963 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well from I understanding. 964 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna move on there. No no, no, no, no no no. 965 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:50,520 Speaker 1: We can talk about it now, you. 966 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 2: Know you want to No, let's talk about this. No, 967 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 2: let's let's talk about this. 968 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 3: Man. 969 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: My god, man, that's my dude. Man, Like like you know, 970 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: just like was the something before that happened, Like was 971 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: there a person of vendetta? I mean, did you do something. 972 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 2: To No, sir, none at all. 973 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 3: I was always respectful, you know what I'm saying, like 974 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 3: still to this day, like you know what I'm saying, 975 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 3: Like I'm still respectful, but like from my understanding, like 976 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know people like run into 977 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 3: him every once in a while that like know me 978 00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,359 Speaker 3: that he knows that knows me, and he always has like. 979 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Brian, uh, Brian got me a nice little check. 980 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 3: Basically like saying that, like, yo, like Puff cut him 981 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 3: a check so that I could be in the group 982 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 3: talking about he still had me signed the paperwork. 983 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: He didn't. 984 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 2: I presented Puff with the released forms and everything. 985 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 3: Yo, I got. I got stories for days, Bro, I 986 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,479 Speaker 3: got stories for days. I can tell you a whole 987 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 3: lot of stuff, Bro, a whole lot of stuff. 988 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: Yet, yeah, you. 989 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 2: Might want to edit that out right. 990 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Man, I hate it when brothers that 991 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,400 Speaker 1: I that I cut for, you know, bump hiss. 992 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 3: Man, I'm bump his man. 993 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 2: I don't bump here with nobody, Bro. Like if anybody 994 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:11,920 Speaker 2: got like. 995 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: You bumped forever you said it. 996 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, But like I'm the type of person I can 997 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:23,279 Speaker 3: talk to you as a man and you know, fish 998 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 3: through the you know, the the bullshit and then you know, 999 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 3: get down to the whatever and then leave it at that. 1000 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We can either we neither 1001 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 2: squash it or just leave it alone. 1002 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: Have you ever reached out the math to just try 1003 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: to get an understanding like you did with the group, 1004 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: because y'all got a lot of history, no matter what, 1005 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: y'all got a lot of history. And I'm sure you 1006 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: don't hate Matthew. I don't hate you. So I mean, 1007 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 1: if y'all ever like, like, have you ever tried to 1008 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 1: reach out? I mean, I don't. 1009 00:53:53,760 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 3: I honestly, I have no problem with Matthew at all. Hell, 1010 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 3: I mean, he got a he got a nice check. 1011 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 3: He go around telling people like he even told my 1012 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 3: cousin a mirror like, you know, a mirror was trying 1013 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 3: to write something for a group that he had at 1014 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:10,439 Speaker 3: the time. 1015 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,480 Speaker 2: Uh they were called Blush. 1016 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 3: And he even told the mirror like, yeah, you know, 1017 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 3: Brian got me a nice check, like kind of like bragging, 1018 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:26,439 Speaker 3: like really, brouh, we're doing this? How do you we're 1019 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 3: doing this? 1020 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 1: Okay? Do you still talk to the guys in the group. 1021 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 2: For Mason Roll, Oh yeah all the time. 1022 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 3: Man. You know. One of them was my little brother, 1023 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 3: so Vaughn. I still talk to him all the time. 1024 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 3: But talked to Steve all the time. 1025 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,640 Speaker 1: So I never knew you had a brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, sir. 1026 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,759 Speaker 1: Uh And where's von Vaughn Man? 1027 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,840 Speaker 3: Vaughn is uh if he ain't out in La with 1028 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,400 Speaker 3: jazz like he he he. 1029 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 2: And and and somewhere in the country of Texas. 1030 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:57,720 Speaker 1: With jazz frinds. 1031 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. You know they call him the gumbo guy. 1032 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 3: That the gumbo man, you know. Man, Like you know, 1033 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 3: Vaughn Vaughan has his own his own food truck now, 1034 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 3: so like he's super successful, stay in the country, built 1035 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,240 Speaker 3: the house out there, and you know he just cooking 1036 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 3: and farming. That's all he's doing now. I mean he's 1037 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 3: still putting on music as well through y EMG. 1038 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, how many kids? You got five? And what's 1039 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 1: that like? You know, like, what's what's fatherhood like for you? 1040 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,760 Speaker 1: What's a typical date in the life of you, Brian Angel? 1041 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: Daddy you wake up in the morning, Wake up in 1042 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: the morning. Man, you got five kids out there? Man, 1043 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 1: five kids? You wake up? Damn I'm daddy, Debt. 1044 00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know what my two youngest ones live 1045 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 2: with me. 1046 00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 3: Man a daily man, it would be I wake up 1047 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 3: in the morning, cook breakfast, get them ready for school, 1048 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 3: drop them off, try my girl off at work, come home, 1049 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 3: get the house situated or whatever. That's if I'm if 1050 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,840 Speaker 3: I'm not working. You know what I'm saying, you know, 1051 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:10,880 Speaker 3: get the house situated. 1052 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 1053 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 3: Make sure their lunch is cooked so when they get 1054 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,399 Speaker 3: home they you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm pretty domesticated. 1055 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, I'm pretty domesticated. 1056 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,840 Speaker 1: Man. There you up for that? 1057 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 2: Huh? 1058 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 1: The Manisphere. Manisphere that's a group of well not just 1059 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 1: a group, but people that it's we're actually a group 1060 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: of people who are bloggers, hosts, writers who basically ah 1061 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,240 Speaker 1: talk about the significance of the man and how important 1062 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: the role is for a man and how you know 1063 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: women should be uh submissive. They hear this, They're coming 1064 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,839 Speaker 1: for you like that, dude, domestic d You see that's 1065 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,520 Speaker 1: what's wrong. 1066 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 3: No, man Like I feel like I feel like I 1067 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 3: feel like you be cooking? 1068 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,640 Speaker 1: Man? What you cook? Man? 1069 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 2: I cook everything? 1070 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 3: Man Like I can cook, cook though I don't like 1071 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 3: I don't just like I don't just cook. 1072 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: You cook For breakfast? 1073 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:25,240 Speaker 2: This morning, I. 1074 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 3: Made uh some turkey sausage, Uh, some scrambled eggs hash 1075 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 3: browns and. 1076 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 1: Some rifles. Yeah, so you feel like what when the 1077 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 1: manisphere come at you and say, man, what you doing cooking? 1078 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: That's your woman job. 1079 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 3: I mean, y y'ah, nigga's living under in the stone age, 1080 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 3: you can't like really like you know, I mean, this 1081 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 3: is this is twenty twenty three. You know what I'm saying, 1082 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,920 Speaker 3: Like you got that mindset like brother, you need to pray. 1083 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: But you know, it's a lot of things happening in 1084 00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three that has got the world off its 1085 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,720 Speaker 1: access and then really got our community in a jam. 1086 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you can just really just 1087 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: attribute to change of gender roles to just oh, this 1088 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: is twenty twenty three. It doesn't necessarily mean that we're 1089 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,479 Speaker 1: evolving in the right direction just because it's twenty twenty three. 1090 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you're right, but I'll say this, 1091 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,200 Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with. 1092 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 3: Like I feel like I feel like a relationship, like 1093 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 3: especially in like a family dynamics, like it should be 1094 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 3: all hands in you know, all hands on deck. You 1095 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like whatever, you know what I'm saying, like, 1096 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 3: do what you got to do to make sure that 1097 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 3: your household runs properly, you know what I'm saying, Like, 1098 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 3: I don't think that when a person has that mindset, 1099 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 3: they don't really think like that, like because like I mean, yeah, 1100 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean I can go out, hunt, bring home to 1101 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 3: meet whatever, whatever. 1102 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 2: But like, are you are you really like happy with 1103 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 2: just sitting back and just chilling while your wife is 1104 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 2: doing this and doing that? 1105 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 3: Like me, I have no problem with helping out, you 1106 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like I feel like when you're 1107 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 3: a relationship, like that's supposed to be your helpmate. 1108 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's like meaning like you 1109 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 2: help each other. 1110 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:42,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1111 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 3: Like anything else, I don't understand. I'm sorry, I don't understand. 1112 00:59:51,600 --> 01:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Your wife? So does she? I got to ask these questions. 1113 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 1: What do is something pop up in my head? Man? 1114 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: I just gotta see it, man, because I know a 1115 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: lot of people probably thinking the same thing. Uh So, 1116 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 1: but does your wife, like because she does work and 1117 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 1: when you're not working, you're at home, she's out working 1118 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,200 Speaker 1: and you're at home taking care of the house, does 1119 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,400 Speaker 1: she come in and? Uh? Does she have the final say? 1120 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 3: So? 1121 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 2: Hell, like, we don't. We don't operate like that. 1122 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: Like do you have a fan to say something? 1123 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 1124 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 3: I wouldn't somebody got to find yes, I do, but 1125 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 3: I don't try to run my household like that, Like 1126 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 3: like I'm like, what do you how do you feel? 1127 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 3: How does this make you feel? You know what I'm 1128 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 3: saying like that way, Like I do it that way 1129 01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:00,040 Speaker 3: so that everybody's happy. You know what I'm saying and 1130 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,520 Speaker 3: like so to speak, it's not all about me. It's 1131 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 3: not it's not all about like my wishes. It's not 1132 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 3: all about like what makes me happy? Like does this 1133 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,919 Speaker 3: make you comfortable? Does this make you feel the type 1134 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,000 Speaker 3: of way? Like I like that type of person. I 1135 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,040 Speaker 3: am like I need to know, like I need to 1136 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 3: know what's on your mind, what's on your heart, and 1137 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 3: if it doesn't make you feel totally one like comfortable 1138 01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 3: or confident, Okay, let's try to find like another alternative, 1139 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 3: or let's let's try to figure out to where both 1140 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 3: you and I are happy. 1141 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: What do you think about the people out there who 1142 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 1: say that you know, alpha male, bea male? What do 1143 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean? What do you think about those titles? 1144 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to dispect nobody man, 1145 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,120 Speaker 3: But I think it's I think it's ignorant. I think 1146 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,000 Speaker 3: it's a Stone Age way of thinking. You know what 1147 01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like I I don't believe in the whole 1148 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 3: alpha male or the beta male. Like I'm I am 1149 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,720 Speaker 3: the alpha male in my home. You know what I'm saying, 1150 01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 3: Like I'm I am. I am a male, I'm an 1151 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,280 Speaker 3: alpha male when I step out my house. You know 1152 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like it's I mean, you're gonna see it, 1153 01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,560 Speaker 3: You're gonna feel it. I like when I walk past you, 1154 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 3: you're gonna ain't no, ain't no second guessing. 1155 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:22,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 1156 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 3: But I don't feel like I have to go around 1157 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 3: like talking about it or yeah, man, you know things 1158 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 3: ain't running my way, then there's no way at all. 1159 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 2: Like that's that's no there's no way to like be. 1160 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1161 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1162 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 2: There's no way to be. If you ask me, I. 1163 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Think you are right, man, because at the end of 1164 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 1: the day, I do believe that the best way for 1165 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: someone to operate within a relationship, it's to do what 1166 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 1: makes them sleep well. You know, like if it makes 1167 01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 1: you sleep well, to acquiesque to your woman's man, then 1168 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 1: that's what you do. No, bro, I'm messing with you. 1169 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm messing with you, you know, really, really really, but 1170 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: all in all and all sincerity, I really think that, 1171 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 1: I really think that when people find something that works 1172 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: for them, that's all that really matters. When you find 1173 01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: something that works for you, that's what matters, because you know, 1174 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 1: like people don't. I can talk all the stuff that 1175 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 1: I want to, but I don't have to wake up 1176 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:44,800 Speaker 1: and smell this woman's morning breath. I don't have to 1177 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 1: worry about how she's budgeting the money. I don't have to, 1178 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, worry about how she's teaching and training and 1179 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 1: coaching my kids and counseling my kids. I don't have 1180 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,960 Speaker 1: to worry about how she represents herself when she walks 1181 01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 1: out of the door, and how she repens it's me. 1182 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about any of those things. 1183 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 1: So I don't put that much stock into how people 1184 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 1: run their relationships, because as long as it works for them, 1185 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:16,160 Speaker 1: that's really all that matters. I know people who have 1186 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: these adequated ideas about how relationships should go, and some 1187 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 1: have these new wave ideas about how relationships could go 1188 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 1: should go, and those people are unhappy, right, So sometimes 1189 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,439 Speaker 1: you know it's the guy. You got the guy he's 1190 01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's this he's afrobe because you got this 1191 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 1: guy he's beta. You got this woman, she's submissive. You 1192 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 1: got this woman she's aggressive. But at the end of 1193 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 1: the day, it balls down to what works for you 1194 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: and yours. 1195 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 2: They don't make and you know what's crazy, man, They 1196 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:56,680 Speaker 2: don't make women out they used to either. 1197 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 3: They don't man like women like like I mean, I'll 1198 01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 3: say this. 1199 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 2: Women used to. 1200 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 3: Be so soft and so like. You know, what's the 1201 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 3: word I'm looking for? Man Like women used to be 1202 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:22,200 Speaker 3: like loving women are like savages now you know what 1203 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 3: I'm saying. I think that's why I hold on the 1204 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 3: mind soul. 1205 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,240 Speaker 1: I think you are treading on thin ice, so shut up. 1206 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Not not shut up, but I think it needs to 1207 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 1: be more directed towards a specific type of woman, because 1208 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,840 Speaker 1: all women are not made like that. Cause I hear 1209 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 1: but I just I just despise generalizations, just for the 1210 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: simple fact that sometimes you hear women saying the same 1211 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: thing about men. Oh these men today, Hell, I'm man, 1212 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 1: what are you talking about me too? Be talking that shiit? 1213 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,120 Speaker 1: Men today? I just don't understand these these guys today. Man, 1214 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,919 Speaker 1: they're just these ad they's just losers and they don't 1215 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,400 Speaker 1: want anything. They're lazy. They want they want to be kept. 1216 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,560 Speaker 1: And and I'm like, I mean, hey, hey, I'm over here. 1217 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm a man, Like you're not. I know you're not 1218 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 1: talking about me. And I understand what she mean. I 1219 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 1: know she's not talking about me. But when she verbalizes, 1220 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,360 Speaker 1: she she includes me. When she she speaks on these things. 1221 01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: She's talking about men, she's talking about me. So I 1222 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 1: think it's important for us to be specific, specific about 1223 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, the criticism that that we levy towards a 1224 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 1: particular I say this, right. 1225 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:38,919 Speaker 2: I say this, ladies, It's okay to be soft. It's 1226 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 2: okay to be. 1227 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 3: The woman that you envision yourself as a child, if 1228 01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 3: that makes any sense, Like you know, like being like 1229 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 3: you know, having the having the family, and you know 1230 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 3: women have that when they're you know, when when they're 1231 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,000 Speaker 3: growing up, you know what I'm saying. And fellas, it's 1232 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,320 Speaker 3: okay to like love one woman, it's okay to be 1233 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 3: with just one woman, you know what I'm saying. Like, 1234 01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,880 Speaker 3: I think that's where we got it messed up at. 1235 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,080 Speaker 1: I think that I think that is enough blame to 1236 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 1: go around. It's not one group that's out of pocket. 1237 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: It's not one gender that's out of pocket. It takes 1238 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 1: two to tango facts, and so there's enough blame to 1239 01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 1: go around. But look, man, we can complain all day, 1240 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: but after we complain, you gotta do something about it. Facts. 1241 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,200 Speaker 1: You know, that's what grown folks do. Facts. No kids 1242 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:41,280 Speaker 1: are just complaining, complain, complain, playing, but they're not solution oriented. 1243 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: Grown folks are solution oriented. So we can complain, but 1244 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,760 Speaker 1: after we complain, we do something about it. Because I 1245 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 1: can tell you that I do know a number of 1246 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 1: women who were taught to be aggressive, to be self 1247 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: sufficient and independent because they saw their mothers and grandmothers 1248 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: being abandoned for the other woman or for the streets. 1249 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:16,839 Speaker 1: They saw, they saw men die, their grandfathers die without 1250 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:22,320 Speaker 1: a will or without an insurance policy, and they don't 1251 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:27,479 Speaker 1: want to be in that same position. So I cannot 1252 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,760 Speaker 1: fault them for that. But what I do is I 1253 01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 1: can hold all of us accountable for falling for the 1254 01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:38,680 Speaker 1: banana in the tailpipe where we're not working as a 1255 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: cohesive unit, because at the end of the day, we 1256 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:51,839 Speaker 1: can lose a lot of battles, but we cannot lose 1257 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,479 Speaker 1: the gender war. We have fought and worn a lot 1258 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,000 Speaker 1: of wars, but we cannot win a gender war. We 1259 01:08:59,040 --> 01:08:59,719 Speaker 1: can't survive. 1260 01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 2: No, you can't. 1261 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 1: None of us can survive. A woman can't survive without 1262 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:11,440 Speaker 1: a man. We can't survive without each other. No, it's impossible. 1263 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:21,479 Speaker 1: Anybody that's preaching that is an uncivilized mutt. We can't 1264 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,880 Speaker 1: survive without each other. We we We were made for 1265 01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: each other. We were made for each other. Men were 1266 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 1: made for women, Women were made for men. I don't 1267 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:38,120 Speaker 1: give a damn, I said I. I said it many 1268 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: and I'm here to represent it. I cannot I cannot 1269 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 1: be canceled. I said it. I ment them here to 1270 01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,600 Speaker 1: represent it. And I was saying on stage at and 1271 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,880 Speaker 1: and and at at NRG Stadium in front of seventy 1272 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 1: thousand people. I get on TV and broadcast it internationally. 1273 01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 1: Men were made for women, Women were made for men. 1274 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,599 Speaker 1: And that's the way it is. Ain't nothing gonna change that. 1275 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,920 Speaker 1: You can go out there and act like however you 1276 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 1: want to act, and you can do whatever you want 1277 01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: to do, but that's what it is. And until somebody 1278 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,719 Speaker 1: showed me different. That's what I'm standing on. 1279 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,719 Speaker 2: You know where you you're talking about that. 1280 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 3: Like, like, especially with everything that's going on right now 1281 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 3: with you know, how do you feel about the do 1282 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:33,639 Speaker 3: you feel that it's an agenda being pushed off right now? 1283 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 1: Absolutely is an agenda. Okay, that absolutely is an agenda. 1284 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:45,959 Speaker 1: And even the people that's even the people that benefits 1285 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,960 Speaker 1: from the agenda know what the truth is, but they 1286 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,120 Speaker 1: can't say it out loud. It's kind of like it's 1287 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:57,880 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, white folks knowing that white 1288 01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 1: privilege is is real, but they can't say it out 1289 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 1: loud because then they have to do something about it. Right. Yeah, 1290 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: so we know, not absolutely right, we know what it is, 1291 01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:16,439 Speaker 1: you know, we know, we know what it is. And man, 1292 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: you know, hey, uh you know, hopefully you know we'll 1293 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,720 Speaker 1: be all right. Hopefully our babies would be all right, 1294 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 1: you know, man, you know, hopefully we can leave this 1295 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 1: world in a better place than what we found it. 1296 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 2: Man, that's what I pray about. 1297 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:29,320 Speaker 1: Man. 1298 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 3: I pray so much like for my children, man, like 1299 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,519 Speaker 3: especially like the way things are like, Man, I pray 1300 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,760 Speaker 3: I pray that like I can. I talked to God 1301 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 3: all the time, Like I want to stay here as 1302 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,839 Speaker 3: long as possible just to make sure that my children 1303 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 3: are on their way, you know what I'm saying, like 1304 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:49,280 Speaker 3: and and headed in the right direction. This world is 1305 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 3: so like just even when when from from when I 1306 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 3: was growing up, man, Like this world is so different, man, 1307 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 3: Like so different. 1308 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,479 Speaker 2: Like you know, I don't I don't smoking like that. 1309 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,000 Speaker 2: I eat edibles, you know what I'm saying. 1310 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,760 Speaker 3: So what I do is, man, I'll eat edible and 1311 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,920 Speaker 3: I'll watch like old school TV TV. Like that's why 1312 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm a huge fan of two B because 1313 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,599 Speaker 3: they got all the old school Yeah, they got all the. 1314 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 1: Old school shows. Improving man. 1315 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah you know what man, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1316 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,280 Speaker 1: Honestly got a financial injection somewhere. 1317 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, But like too B is Too 1318 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 2: Be is dope. 1319 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: Man. 1320 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:33,120 Speaker 3: But like I watch like old school old school shows 1321 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:39,759 Speaker 3: like like Different Strokes and that's my mama and uh shoot, 1322 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 3: what's happening? Yeah, good time? Man, Like like that's that's 1323 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,800 Speaker 3: that's the TV that I watched as a kid with 1324 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,479 Speaker 3: my grandparents. You know what I'm saying, Like to me 1325 01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,880 Speaker 3: because like that's when you know what I'm saying like 1326 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 3: life was life. You know what I'm saying Like this 1327 01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 3: right here, I mean, I just feel like now we 1328 01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,439 Speaker 3: live in u uh a. 1329 01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,760 Speaker 2: Day and age where everything is a race. Everything is 1330 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 2: a race. Everything is a race. 1331 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 3: But like I get high, I eat my otibles, and 1332 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,839 Speaker 3: I watch my old school TV because it just reminds 1333 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:11,240 Speaker 3: me of times. 1334 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: Where life was simpler. 1335 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,160 Speaker 2: Thank you you took the words rapping my mouth. 1336 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 1: Life was a whole lot simpler, Ladies and gentlemen, Brian Angel, 1337 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:24,680 Speaker 1: thank you man, Thank you. 1338 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 3: For stopping by man, Thank you for having me by 1339 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,559 Speaker 3: the thank you, thankin No More Talk. 1340 01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by a King and brought to 1341 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 1: you by the Black Effect Podcast Network at iHeartRadio