Speaker 1: Hi everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside my partner in crime,
Speaker 1: Wes Hodkuwits were coming to you hear from our studios
Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and Weston. Welcome to Draft week. It's here,
Speaker 1: Thank god, it's here. They made it, made it. It's
Speaker 1: like surviving the desert, right like you got to the
Speaker 1: other side of it and you start to see that
Speaker 1: mirage or that that waterfall at the end of it
Speaker 1: and you're just like man, something of substance to talk about. Again,
Speaker 1: we're not going over all the scenarios of well if
Speaker 1: the Packers move back or move up or or trade
Speaker 1: their pick until you know next year. No, finally all
Speaker 1: the talking stops, we get some action. It is here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna focus this show on the draft as big
Speaker 1: an overall overview draft preview as we can give you
Speaker 1: here in the time allowed on Packers Unscripted. I'm just
Speaker 1: going to dive right in here on offense west You
Speaker 1: look at where the Packers are on offense to me,
Speaker 1: and this is where I'm talking. You know, the the
Speaker 1: upper picks the Packers have, the Packers have four picks
Speaker 1: in the top seventy five of this draft, twelve at
Speaker 1: thirty in the first round, forty four in the second round,
Speaker 1: seventy five in the third round. So we're talking Thursday
Speaker 1: and Friday's picks as they stand right now. When I
Speaker 1: look at where the Packers are on offense, I think
Speaker 1: the potential of those high using those high picks maybe
Speaker 1: falls more likely at offensive line and or tight end
Speaker 1: than perhaps any of the other positions. Now, of course,
Speaker 1: we know anything can happen. That's kind of the way
Speaker 1: I see this right now shaping up. What do you think? Well,
Speaker 1: I just think you know and again we know nothing
Speaker 1: condition and everything we say. But I do think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of big people that are available here in
Speaker 1: the first round that could really make Brian Goodakuinsen his
Speaker 1: scouts think so, whether that's offensive line or defensive line,
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of talent there that they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to consider. To me, it comes down to
Speaker 1: three questions in terms of looking at specifically at the
Speaker 1: number twelve position. One, how many quarterbacks go before? Then
Speaker 1: maybe it's only one. We'll see what happens with Montez
Speaker 1: Sweat After some of the medicals and where he's gonna
Speaker 1: fall in two or three, I should say, is how
Speaker 1: many skill position players are we going to see get
Speaker 1: on a run here? Is it just gonna be t J. Hockinson?
Speaker 1: Is there someone else? You know, DK Metcalf, somebody else
Speaker 1: that that some team wants to potentially explore. Do you
Speaker 1: want to get one of the top guys at those positions?
Speaker 1: Once all that shuffles out, I think you're gonna see
Speaker 1: what that board looks like for the Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: To me, though, I think it's offensive line. I think
Speaker 1: it's defensive line. I think the value is there at twelve,
Speaker 1: and then potentially the position you don't address, maybe it's
Speaker 1: there for you at thirty. Yeah. The interesting thing here
Speaker 1: when you're talking the offensive skill positions. Everyone knows the
Speaker 1: two tight ends from Iowa teach J. Hockins and Noah
Speaker 1: Fanse being talked about as first round picks, But there's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk that maybe only one wide receiver
Speaker 1: is going to go in the first round talking Metcalf
Speaker 1: from from Ole miss and then a very good chance
Speaker 1: there won't be any running backs taken in the first round.
Speaker 1: So it's an it's an unusual draft in the way
Speaker 1: that that is shaping up, but usual too in the
Speaker 1: standpoint that no cornerbacks probably are going to go in
Speaker 1: the top twenty either, unless somebody wants to go up
Speaker 1: and get Greedy Williams. So in terms of looking at
Speaker 1: these past few years, different in that regard where the
Speaker 1: skill position players, the burners aren't really high on that board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's where I think I'm with you Wes in
Speaker 1: that if you look at offense and defense, the prospects
Speaker 1: in the defensive front seven, whether you're talking defensive line,
Speaker 1: whether you're talking edge rushers, even those couple off the
Speaker 1: ball linebackers, the two Devons as I like to say,
Speaker 1: Devin White Devon Bush from l s U and Michigan respectively.
Speaker 1: You look at defensive front seven picks in the depth
Speaker 1: of these offensive line picks, particularly the tackles of course
Speaker 1: those first the first round type guys, it just looks
Speaker 1: to me like there's going to be a pick of
Speaker 1: the litter, so to speak, at twelve. If Brian Gouda
Speaker 1: Kunz decides to stay at twelve as opposed to move
Speaker 1: around now, he may move around as well, looking specifically
Speaker 1: at offensive line, though The other thing that intrigues me
Speaker 1: is that, say you look at five guys who are
Speaker 1: being talked about here that's kind of the top five.
Speaker 1: There are three of them, and I'm talking about Jonah Williams,
Speaker 1: Dalton Reisner, and Cody Ford. Three of them are being
Speaker 1: talked about as potential guard or techackle, you know, not
Speaker 1: just being being pigeonholed, so to speak, strictly as a tackle.
Speaker 1: Those guard tackle type of guys could be really really
Speaker 1: interesting for the Packers and their their potential interest level.
Speaker 1: It's a great point you raise here because if you
Speaker 1: look back at the Ted Thompson and now Brian Goods era,
Speaker 1: their m O hasn't been to draft an offensive linemen
Speaker 1: early in on in these drafts and move them to guard.
Speaker 1: They've liked to take those late round guys, sometimes on
Speaker 1: drafted guys like Lane Taylor who are tried in true guards,
Speaker 1: and then let them settle into those positions. Now that's
Speaker 1: not to say they won't always do it. They did
Speaker 1: it with j. C. Treader in the fourth round out
Speaker 1: of Cornell, taking him as a tackle, moving him to center.
Speaker 1: But it would be interesting if they would, potentially this
Speaker 1: year make that decision that, Okay, well, we just like
Speaker 1: this guy as a prototype. We like him as a
Speaker 1: guy that could fit our scheme, and then we'll let
Speaker 1: all the other stuff figure it out later on Another
Speaker 1: player too, while he doesn't fit into your definition there
Speaker 1: of that versatility. Andre Dillard, who was a teammate of
Speaker 1: Cole Madison at Washington State, another guy that could potentially
Speaker 1: be in that twelve spot. The number one thing, and
Speaker 1: we've discussed this earlier in the off season, that that
Speaker 1: I take away from the two thousand eighteen season is,
Speaker 1: to steal for a phrase from Vick Catchman, you need
Speaker 1: to get some more jars on the shelf there. The
Speaker 1: Packers have a veteran deep offensive line, but we've seen
Speaker 1: in three of the last four years how injuries can
Speaker 1: really wither away that depth. I think you need to
Speaker 1: get a guy that can play both of those spots.
Speaker 1: You need to get another guy to develop there because
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of success at that position. The
Speaker 1: question for Brian good Kuntz and his scouts now is
Speaker 1: whether or not any of these four or five guys
Speaker 1: that could potentially be there at both twelve and thirty
Speaker 1: could be you know, prospects that could fit that vision. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Brian Gooda Kuntz went out in free agency and
Speaker 1: signed Billy Turner, a guy who is also a guard tackle.
Speaker 1: They didn't necessarily say this is the position that this
Speaker 1: guy is gonna play. So I think all of that
Speaker 1: makes the the offensive line prospects at the top of
Speaker 1: this draft interesting. Um. And one more thing to consider too,
Speaker 1: There was a time long ago people don't remember but this,
Speaker 1: but in two thousand, third team and Brian Bloga tours
Speaker 1: a c L at family night, David bak tr was
Speaker 1: just starting to crack the lineup at right tackle. Things
Speaker 1: can change quickly. You need to adjust and you want
Speaker 1: to find some players that can help you do so
Speaker 1: over the course of a long season. Yeah, looking at
Speaker 1: some other spots on offense. Um, if you don't get
Speaker 1: one of the top tight ends, one of those two
Speaker 1: Iowa guys in the first round, you don't really know
Speaker 1: how that's gonna fall. But this, this draft has, this
Speaker 1: draft has a handful of tight ends that are definitely
Speaker 1: going to be in play, whether you're talking the middle
Speaker 1: of the second round, middle of the third round, middle
Speaker 1: of the fourth round where the Packers have two picks
Speaker 1: in the middle of the fourth round at one fourteen
Speaker 1: and one eighteen, so a total of six picks in
Speaker 1: the first four rounds. You know, I don't have all
Speaker 1: the names off the top of my head, but whether
Speaker 1: you're talking Irv Smith from Alabama, Ja Sternburger from Texas,
Speaker 1: A and m um some other, um other other prospects
Speaker 1: yet um the Stanford Stanford tight on, another West Coast guy,
Speaker 1: there are some there are some ways here that even
Speaker 1: if those Iowa tight ends go off the board, that
Speaker 1: the Packers can potentially address and maybe find that tight
Speaker 1: end of the future, even if they don't find them
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. It's a really fun draft for tight ends,
Speaker 1: and we have not been able to say that every year.
Speaker 1: It almost seems like for the last maybe three or
Speaker 1: four years, you and I have been talking about the
Speaker 1: dearth of tight end prospects at least up in these
Speaker 1: draft classes. Hockinson and Fans are are just for both
Speaker 1: of them be coming out of the same program is insane.
Speaker 1: They both have entirely different skill sets and they both
Speaker 1: look like they're going to be stars in this league.
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting. They'll wear these picks line up
Speaker 1: because you don't know if Hockinson would be there at twelve,
Speaker 1: especially with some of these questions on the other top
Speaker 1: ten guys, maybe a team just wants to go with
Speaker 1: the surefire plug and play tight end. Wouldn't fault them
Speaker 1: at all for that. But at the same time, the
Speaker 1: the combine that fans had, it's not a given that
Speaker 1: he's going to be there at thirty for the Packers.
Speaker 1: So this is where I think IRV Smith Jr. It's
Speaker 1: very interesting for him in this draft class because some
Speaker 1: people have him in the early second round, maybe even
Speaker 1: the late first round, middle second round. I really think
Speaker 1: his value in this draft is going to be determined
Speaker 1: by how early those Iowa kids go, because Smith, in
Speaker 1: a lot of years, Mike would be the top prospect
Speaker 1: at that position. Exactly what I was going to say
Speaker 1: in a different year, if Smith from Alabama might be
Speaker 1: the top tight end. Everyone has NFL bloodlines, his father
Speaker 1: played in this league. He's coming out of a good program,
Speaker 1: and he has a really good build. I mean, it
Speaker 1: isn't the six five to fifty that a guy like
Speaker 1: Hockinson is, but very talented. Sternberger, obviously out of Texas
Speaker 1: A and M will be interesting to follow too. And
Speaker 1: then another guy I think is really intriguing is call
Speaker 1: Hale warning I'm gonna mess up his first name again,
Speaker 1: wearing uh from San Diego State. This is a guy
Speaker 1: that was kind of a late convert to that position,
Speaker 1: but a big bodied guy that you might be able
Speaker 1: to have in the second day of the draft, maybe
Speaker 1: the third round. Just a lot of different guys that
Speaker 1: are gonna make NFL teams, including the Packers really consider
Speaker 1: that board. Yeah, And a couple of potential sleepers at
Speaker 1: tight end that we've done prospect primers on Josh Oliver
Speaker 1: from San Jose State and uh, shoot, the other one
Speaker 1: is escaping me right now. Dawson Knox from from from Ole,
Speaker 1: miss Yeah, the Mississippi tight end. He's actually I should
Speaker 1: correct myself. Maybe his primer hasn't been on the website yet,
Speaker 1: but I know I did a lot of them. I
Speaker 1: did one on him, and if it's not up, it's
Speaker 1: going up this week before the draft. But those are
Speaker 1: another couple of when you're talking you know, mid mid
Speaker 1: to even possibly late round guys depending on how this
Speaker 1: falls at tight end the other skill position cheer on
Speaker 1: offense West I want to touch on before we shift
Speaker 1: gears completely to the defensive side. Running back and wide receiver.
Speaker 1: We all know the Packers drafted three wide receivers last year.
Speaker 1: All three of those guys will be back now learning
Speaker 1: a new offensive system with Matt Lafleur, a new head coach,
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett new offensive coordinator coming in. At running back,
Speaker 1: we know the Packers have Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams.
Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of things that the
Speaker 1: Packers might specifically target at those positions. Not necessarily very
Speaker 1: high in the draft, but I'm wondering if they can
Speaker 1: find a running back who maybe is one of these
Speaker 1: really cat quick, speedy guys that just creates a matchup issue,
Speaker 1: uh in certain situations for a defensive coordinator. And then
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, do you want to go out and
Speaker 1: find that prototypical slot receiver who can step in for
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb or do you just want to add to
Speaker 1: your stable and then see based on the guys that
Speaker 1: you have, if somebody emerges as the slot receiver. Your
Speaker 1: thoughts on maybe which way the Packers go there? Well, first,
Speaker 1: I want to start off at the running backs because
Speaker 1: it's very interesting the situation the Packers find themselves in
Speaker 1: because for all intents and purposes, they have two really
Speaker 1: solid options there and in Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams.
Speaker 1: But as I believe, if it correct me, if I'm
Speaker 1: wrong in this, and if I am, I will be
Speaker 1: the first one to admit it. But I believe it
Speaker 1: was Matt Lafleur that was talking about it this offseason,
Speaker 1: how you need to have three options there just because
Speaker 1: of how the season plays out. You saw it last
Speaker 1: year for him and with the Titans in even to
Speaker 1: some extent here in Green Bay. So in that regard,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of interesting prospects. David Montgomery probably
Speaker 1: fits that mold that you were talking about as a
Speaker 1: guy that can pretty much do it all. Packers also
Speaker 1: have number eighty eight available if they want to go
Speaker 1: that direction with another kind of slash player playing eight
Speaker 1: eight that has the last name of Montgomery. Never know.
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary is a guy that I really like coming
Speaker 1: out of f a U. Yeah, Singletary is one who
Speaker 1: who's who's interesting to me. I looked at some stuff
Speaker 1: on him for a prospect primer, and yeah, there's there's
Speaker 1: a lot to be intrigued with. But Darryl Henderson, I mean,
Speaker 1: Elijah holy Field, very famous name as well. There Bryce
Speaker 1: Love Benny Snell. I just think that over the course
Speaker 1: of this three days, we're gonna be really gonna find
Speaker 1: out what Brian Goodkins thinks about this class and how
Speaker 1: potentially those guys can maybe helped compliment Aaron Jones and
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams. Wouldn't surprise me either if the Packers don't
Speaker 1: even draft anybody, But I just think if they do
Speaker 1: take somebody at that position, it's going to be a
Speaker 1: player they really really really like. Yeah, I I uh,
Speaker 1: I think a draft pick at running back is going
Speaker 1: to tell us a lot potentially about what exactly is
Speaker 1: the skill set that Matt Lafleur absolutely for in his offense.
Speaker 1: So that is definitely something to keep an one. With
Speaker 1: regards to wide receiver, Okay, we know Davante Adams is
Speaker 1: your number one Geronimo Allison will be coming off of
Speaker 1: an injury, but I would have to say is the
Speaker 1: front runner for the number two wide receiver spot. At
Speaker 1: this point, You've got the three draft picks from last year,
Speaker 1: Valda Scantling, Jamon Moore, e q st Brown. You have
Speaker 1: Jake Kumero in the mix. You have Alan Lazard, a
Speaker 1: late season pick up in the mix. One thing I
Speaker 1: guess we'll have to see. To me, the Packers have
Speaker 1: of you know, have some depth there at wide receiver
Speaker 1: already going in. It's almost as though, if there is
Speaker 1: that difference making, playmaking type of wide receiver, who's there
Speaker 1: at a good value in a certain spot. I could
Speaker 1: see the Packers maybe taking a receiver with with one
Speaker 1: of those picks on the first couple of days. But
Speaker 1: otherwise I'm just not sure if you if you pick
Speaker 1: somebody just to add another wide receiver to the mix,
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, it's like whether you're talking
Speaker 1: that specific slot receiver guy or you're gonna or you're
Speaker 1: gonna go up top to draft a guy you think
Speaker 1: is the bona fide number two and go with Davante Adams.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if you're gonna do much in
Speaker 1: the middle ground with everything that you already did last
Speaker 1: year in the draft at the position. It's just my
Speaker 1: gut feeling. Here's the thing that's very different from the
Speaker 1: Brian Goodkinst era from when we were with Ted Thompson
Speaker 1: here in Green Bay. Thompson really diversified the receivers a lot.
Speaker 1: When you had Donald Driver, then you had Greg Jennings,
Speaker 1: and you had Randall cop You also had your Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson's of the world too, But for most part they
Speaker 1: had guys that could do a lot of things and
Speaker 1: pretty much fit into that anywhere from five ten five
Speaker 1: eleven to six ft two six ft three range. Now
Speaker 1: they got a boatload of really tall receivers. Traditionally that
Speaker 1: hasn't been the prototype for a slot player. But I
Speaker 1: think one of the things they've really stressed here the
Speaker 1: last couple of years is being multiple at that position,
Speaker 1: not having a guy that you just pinpoint as your
Speaker 1: slot guy and then you you go about your business.
Speaker 1: So the thing I'm looking for is, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting a Hakim Butler. I'm not expecting, you know,
Speaker 1: one of these big tall targets to come in. But
Speaker 1: do you look at one of those five ten guys?
Speaker 1: Do you look at one of those because there's several
Speaker 1: of them and that five ten to six foot range
Speaker 1: that would fit the more traditional slot role. But and
Speaker 1: you don't need to use necessarily a to get one
Speaker 1: of those guys. I mean you look at my point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you look at the way that this goes out.
Speaker 1: You wrote about Hunter Renfree Renfro already from Clemson, But
Speaker 1: I mean then you got what is it here? I
Speaker 1: was just looking, um, Yeah, I mean Penny Hard from
Speaker 1: Georgia State is five eight. I mean, you've got a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys in that six foot range. I mean,
Speaker 1: and early on Marque's Browns five nine Oklahoma out Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: So that is gonna be much like we're talking about
Speaker 1: with the running back position. Seeing exactly what they do
Speaker 1: at receiver, I think is also gonna be a real
Speaker 1: telltale sign of how they view the receiver position and
Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like in terms of their assignments
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Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers. Okay, getting back to the defense of
Speaker 1: side of things, Looking at some of those top picks
Speaker 1: the Packers have again to rattle them off for your twelve, thirty,
Speaker 1: forty four and seventy five are your picks on Thursday
Speaker 1: and Friday in the first three rounds if Goodacoon stays put,
Speaker 1: which we know is no guarantee. But I think the
Speaker 1: point you brought up at the beginning of the show
Speaker 1: is really interesting when you look at the front seven
Speaker 1: and how this draft could fall at the top. Mantes
Speaker 1: sweat and what with the type of athletic ability and
Speaker 1: what he did at Mississippi State and where he was
Speaker 1: being talked about a month or two ago or coming
Speaker 1: out of the combine too. Now all of this the
Speaker 1: medical issue that we're hearing with regards to something about
Speaker 1: an enlarged heart. And I don't want to get into
Speaker 1: all the medical without knowing exactly what's being talked about.
Speaker 1: But what we're hearing is that some teams are taking
Speaker 1: them off their board entirely supposedly because of this medical issue.
Speaker 1: Teams are going to have different opinions on that. But
Speaker 1: when you're talking about a guy who was projected as
Speaker 1: a potential top ten, top twelve pick and now all
Speaker 1: of a sudden nobody knows where he's gonna go, that's
Speaker 1: a you know, that's the old wrench thrown into the
Speaker 1: system here. And when you're trying to figure out who's
Speaker 1: going to be there at twelve, and we don't know
Speaker 1: what the Packers are thinking with regards to Sweat or
Speaker 1: if they like other players better. Well, and the other
Speaker 1: thing was too, I mean, coming off of Sweats Combine,
Speaker 1: I just wrote him off that he's not going to
Speaker 1: be there at twelve. I didn't think. And if he's
Speaker 1: not there at twelve, that means that some other team
Speaker 1: took him, which means another player falls to the Packers.
Speaker 1: How that domino effect, you know, plays out, We're going
Speaker 1: to find out on Thursday night. But I love this
Speaker 1: draft for defensive players I mean, Quinn and Williams is
Speaker 1: being looked at his potentially once in a generation type player.
Speaker 1: Devin White is probably my favorite player in this year's draft.
Speaker 1: I just think he's athletic and versatile. He's he might
Speaker 1: be mine as well, and he's coming out of Dave
Speaker 1: Randa's system. I'm not saying there's just you know, pinpoint
Speaker 1: parallels between what a Randa does and what you know,
Speaker 1: Mike Petton does, but I just I really like what
Speaker 1: he brings the tables and every down player. Ed Oliver
Speaker 1: was running really hot. Now there's been some questions about him,
Speaker 1: it's still a real good talent. Rashaan Gary is a
Speaker 1: phenomenal interview. I mean, I find a story fascinating, his
Speaker 1: goals in life and what he wants to achieve, and
Speaker 1: just seeing exactly who's gonna be there. Again, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna depend on the dominoes here, but you know Boss
Speaker 1: is gonna go, you know, Josh Allen's gonna go, you
Speaker 1: know Williams is gonna go. Figuring it out from there.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's kind of just a toss up,
Speaker 1: But I mean there's just so much talent that I
Speaker 1: think is really going to make teams consider him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look at you look at three guys from the
Speaker 1: in the defensive front seven from Clemson. You've got Dexter
Speaker 1: Lawrence and and Cleveland Farrell and the other defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: His name is escaping me at the moment. He's Christians Wilkins. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I believes the kid that graduated like two and a
Speaker 1: half years or whatever. Yeah, and he's probably he could
Speaker 1: be the one who's drafted the first out of those three.
Speaker 1: But but just the Clemson defensive alone is giving you
Speaker 1: that ed inside linebacker you mentioned Devin White. The other
Speaker 1: Devon is Devin Bush from Michigan. Everything that I'm seeing
Speaker 1: and reading indicates that there's a there a significant drop
Speaker 1: off at inside linebacker after those two to kind of
Speaker 1: everybody else that's in the draft. So that's another thing
Speaker 1: that's interesting to me. Now, the Packers obviously have Blake
Speaker 1: Martinez as a key communicator, signal caller, and and tackle
Speaker 1: machine so to speak. In this Mike Petton defense. You
Speaker 1: spent a third round pick on Orn Burke's last year.
Speaker 1: You're looking for that second year jump from him. But
Speaker 1: you just wonder if one of those Devon's is there
Speaker 1: at number twelve, with as big of a drop off
Speaker 1: as they're saying there is at that position in this draft.
Speaker 1: You wonder if now I don't think Devin White is
Speaker 1: going to be there. I think maybe the question is
Speaker 1: whether Devin is whether Devin Bush would be there. You
Speaker 1: wonder if Brian Gudakunst, you know, makes that move right there.
Speaker 1: But again, he's going to be leaving some other you know,
Speaker 1: defensive front or edge rusher type players still on the board.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, right, I mean, you obviously you only
Speaker 1: have one peg to fill the holes, so I mean
Speaker 1: figuring out what you want to do with it is
Speaker 1: always interesting. But then you look at what ro Kuan
Speaker 1: Smith did last year for Chicago and showing up Vic
Speaker 1: Fangio's defense, being the top ten pick early on in
Speaker 1: the top inside linebacker on the board. I think both
Speaker 1: of those guys are going to be really good NFL
Speaker 1: football players every down, players built for defenses in two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen UM. But again, it depends on what the
Speaker 1: Packers want to do. They feel good about Blake Martinez,
Speaker 1: but we also know that Mantra, you can never have
Speaker 1: good enough football players. They had to use a safety
Speaker 1: at that other inside linebacker position for the most of
Speaker 1: last season. You know, do one of those two guys
Speaker 1: make you consider going back to a more traditional player
Speaker 1: in that role. Yeah, And when you look at the
Speaker 1: safety position, if there is a position on defense, even
Speaker 1: after free agency, with you know, signing the two Smiths
Speaker 1: at outside linebacker, signing Adrian Amos at safety, there's still
Speaker 1: basically a wide open starting spot on this Mike Petton
Speaker 1: defense at safety. Right now. I don't see the Packers
Speaker 1: using the twelve pick at safety, but certainly there are
Speaker 1: going to be some options there at number thirty a
Speaker 1: couple of guys that we've talked about. Thornhill from Virginia
Speaker 1: is an interesting prospect as a guy who has played
Speaker 1: some corner, had a lot of cover skills intercepted I
Speaker 1: believe six passes last year as a center field for
Speaker 1: the for the Cavaliers, So a lot of a wide
Speaker 1: ranging skill set there. And then of course, the the descendants,
Speaker 1: so to speak of the Packers Hall of Famer Herb
Speaker 1: at Ely, I'm talking about Nasir Adderly now if I
Speaker 1: have it correct, from the story I wrote from the Combine,
Speaker 1: it's Nasir's grandfather who is a cousin of Herb. But
Speaker 1: Nasir and Herb have known each other. They they connected
Speaker 1: during high school and they've known each other for a
Speaker 1: while now, so he's well aware of the of the
Speaker 1: bloodlines and everything, and and that name and what it
Speaker 1: means in terms of, you know, a pro football Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer and the family and the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: and whatnot really interesting prospect from Delaware that you know,
Speaker 1: the Packers might consider at thirty or at forty four
Speaker 1: something like that, you know, on Thursday or Friday. And atterly,
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal football name to have. Obviously his his cousin.
Speaker 1: Don't get me into figuring out the trees of all that.
Speaker 1: I don't never have understood that second cousin, once removed
Speaker 1: or whatever. But the thing I love most about him, though,
Speaker 1: who does in my opinion, maybe you disagree, who does
Speaker 1: he really remind you of? To me, it's Nick Collins.
Speaker 1: I just you look at where he came from, his
Speaker 1: humble beginnings, the school pedigree, and and just played out
Speaker 1: of his mind at that level. Ball hawking pedigree, A
Speaker 1: smart football player that seems seems to have a good
Speaker 1: natural fit for the position, whether it's Greenberrier. Otherwise, I
Speaker 1: think they're getting a good player in aderaly Um. But
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, I mean also some other talented guys
Speaker 1: in this Taylor rap from Washington. The former teammate I
Speaker 1: believe of Kevin king over there coming out of d
Speaker 1: b U H was sort of an under the radar
Speaker 1: prospect became a really solid football player for them. So yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of talented safeties and a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that you consider going with Amos back there. Yeah, all right, well,
Speaker 1: I think we could talk about this draft preview stuff
Speaker 1: till till the cows come on. You've got something I'm
Speaker 1: going to There's one more guy I want to talk
Speaker 1: about because we didn't get to it. It was the
Speaker 1: number one name on everybody's tongue after the combine. Do
Speaker 1: you remember who that was? Brian Burns coming out of
Speaker 1: the edge rushing position. I swear to you, Mike, after
Speaker 1: his combine, I had every Packer fan on Twitter saying,
Speaker 1: go get that guy. He could potentially be in the
Speaker 1: cards there as well. But it's gonna depend on what
Speaker 1: they want to do after signing these other outside linebackers.
Speaker 1: I just want to leave that on the table. You
Speaker 1: can never have enough edge rushers, and Burns really increased
Speaker 1: his stock over the last couple of months. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 1: He's a guy who was who is being who is
Speaker 1: being talked about now as a top fifteen guy one
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago that wasn't necessarily He put
Speaker 1: himself in a great position, put on good, healthy weight,
Speaker 1: a really good football player. Has seems like he has
Speaker 1: zone tendencies to be able to do some dropping. I
Speaker 1: just think he's gonna be He's gonna help somebody out
Speaker 1: in this draft and could potentially be another player the
Speaker 1: Packers have to consider at twelve. Alright, well, we'll do
Speaker 1: one more show this week before the draft on Thursday,
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