WEBVTT - #400 Packers Unscripted: Pre-draft prep 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:20.760 Hi everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:23.880 I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside my partner in crime, 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.480 Wes Hodkuwits were coming to you hear from our studios 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.520 at lambeau Field and Weston. Welcome to Draft week. It's here, 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.680 Thank god, it's here. They made it, made it. It's 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.559 like surviving the desert, right like you got to the 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:38.040 other side of it and you start to see that 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.680 mirage or that that waterfall at the end of it 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:45.080 and you're just like man, something of substance to talk about. Again, 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.559 we're not going over all the scenarios of well if 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.080 the Packers move back or move up or or trade 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.640 their pick until you know next year. No, finally all 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.279 the talking stops, we get some action. It is here. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:01.320 We're gonna focus this show on the draft as big 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.120 an overall overview draft preview as we can give you 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:08.160 here in the time allowed on Packers Unscripted. I'm just 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.880 going to dive right in here on offense west You 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.720 look at where the Packers are on offense to me, 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.240 and this is where I'm talking. You know, the the 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.280 upper picks the Packers have, the Packers have four picks 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.240 in the top seventy five of this draft, twelve at 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.640 thirty in the first round, forty four in the second round, 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.200 seventy five in the third round. So we're talking Thursday 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:33.080 and Friday's picks as they stand right now. When I 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.920 look at where the Packers are on offense, I think 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:40.320 the potential of those high using those high picks maybe 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:45.000 falls more likely at offensive line and or tight end 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.680 than perhaps any of the other positions. Now, of course, 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:50.120 we know anything can happen. That's kind of the way 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.880 I see this right now shaping up. What do you think? Well, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.600 I just think you know and again we know nothing 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.360 condition and everything we say. But I do think there's 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:01.440 a lot of big people that are available here in 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.800 the first round that could really make Brian Goodakuinsen his 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.640 scouts think so, whether that's offensive line or defensive line, 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.079 I think there's a lot of talent there that they're 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:11.959 gonna have to consider. To me, it comes down to 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.359 three questions in terms of looking at specifically at the 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.720 number twelve position. One, how many quarterbacks go before? Then 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.200 maybe it's only one. We'll see what happens with Montez 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:23.960 Sweat After some of the medicals and where he's gonna 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.280 fall in two or three, I should say, is how 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.160 many skill position players are we going to see get 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:31.800 on a run here? Is it just gonna be t J. Hockinson? 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.320 Is there someone else? You know, DK Metcalf, somebody else 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.079 that that some team wants to potentially explore. Do you 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:39.360 want to get one of the top guys at those positions? 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:42.280 Once all that shuffles out, I think you're gonna see 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.359 what that board looks like for the Green Bay Packers. 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:46.840 To me, though, I think it's offensive line. I think 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.240 it's defensive line. I think the value is there at twelve, 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.320 and then potentially the position you don't address, maybe it's 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.280 there for you at thirty. Yeah. The interesting thing here 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.480 when you're talking the offensive skill positions. Everyone knows the 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.880 two tight ends from Iowa teach J. Hockins and Noah 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:05.000 Fanse being talked about as first round picks, But there's 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.520 a lot of talk that maybe only one wide receiver 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.760 is going to go in the first round talking Metcalf 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:13.280 from from Ole miss and then a very good chance 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:16.240 there won't be any running backs taken in the first round. 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.200 So it's an it's an unusual draft in the way 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.920 that that is shaping up, but usual too in the 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.160 standpoint that no cornerbacks probably are going to go in 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.040 the top twenty either, unless somebody wants to go up 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.280 and get Greedy Williams. So in terms of looking at 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.960 these past few years, different in that regard where the 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.839 skill position players, the burners aren't really high on that board. Yeah, 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:36.800 and that's where I think I'm with you Wes in 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:40.840 that if you look at offense and defense, the prospects 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:44.119 in the defensive front seven, whether you're talking defensive line, 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.920 whether you're talking edge rushers, even those couple off the 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:49.280 ball linebackers, the two Devons as I like to say, 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:52.200 Devin White Devon Bush from l s U and Michigan respectively. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.200 You look at defensive front seven picks in the depth 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:59.200 of these offensive line picks, particularly the tackles of course 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:02.320 those first the first round type guys, it just looks 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.120 to me like there's going to be a pick of 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.560 the litter, so to speak, at twelve. If Brian Gouda 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.920 Kunz decides to stay at twelve as opposed to move 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.440 around now, he may move around as well, looking specifically 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.280 at offensive line, though The other thing that intrigues me 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.280 is that, say you look at five guys who are 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.520 being talked about here that's kind of the top five. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:26.120 There are three of them, and I'm talking about Jonah Williams, 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.280 Dalton Reisner, and Cody Ford. Three of them are being 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.920 talked about as potential guard or techackle, you know, not 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.880 just being being pigeonholed, so to speak, strictly as a tackle. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.640 Those guard tackle type of guys could be really really 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:45.360 interesting for the Packers and their their potential interest level. 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:47.359 It's a great point you raise here because if you 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.520 look back at the Ted Thompson and now Brian Goods era, 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.799 their m O hasn't been to draft an offensive linemen 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:56.680 early in on in these drafts and move them to guard. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.120 They've liked to take those late round guys, sometimes on 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.480 drafted guys like Lane Taylor who are tried in true guards, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.400 and then let them settle into those positions. Now that's 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.000 not to say they won't always do it. They did 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:08.720 it with j. C. Treader in the fourth round out 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.719 of Cornell, taking him as a tackle, moving him to center. 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.840 But it would be interesting if they would, potentially this 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.680 year make that decision that, Okay, well, we just like 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.040 this guy as a prototype. We like him as a 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.360 guy that could fit our scheme, and then we'll let 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.040 all the other stuff figure it out later on Another 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.080 player too, while he doesn't fit into your definition there 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.520 of that versatility. Andre Dillard, who was a teammate of 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.839 Cole Madison at Washington State, another guy that could potentially 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.279 be in that twelve spot. The number one thing, and 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.640 we've discussed this earlier in the off season, that that 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.599 I take away from the two thousand eighteen season is, 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.240 to steal for a phrase from Vick Catchman, you need 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.320 to get some more jars on the shelf there. The 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.000 Packers have a veteran deep offensive line, but we've seen 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.600 in three of the last four years how injuries can 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.159 really wither away that depth. I think you need to 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:57.919 get a guy that can play both of those spots. 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.240 You need to get another guy to develop there because 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.640 they've had a lot of success at that position. The 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.279 question for Brian good Kuntz and his scouts now is 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.119 whether or not any of these four or five guys 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.560 that could potentially be there at both twelve and thirty 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.960 could be you know, prospects that could fit that vision. Yeah, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.600 and Brian Gooda Kuntz went out in free agency and 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.679 signed Billy Turner, a guy who is also a guard tackle. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.040 They didn't necessarily say this is the position that this 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:24.240 guy is gonna play. So I think all of that 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:27.240 makes the the offensive line prospects at the top of 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.920 this draft interesting. Um. And one more thing to consider too, 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:33.479 There was a time long ago people don't remember but this, 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.960 but in two thousand, third team and Brian Bloga tours 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.640 a c L at family night, David bak tr was 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.680 just starting to crack the lineup at right tackle. Things 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.279 can change quickly. You need to adjust and you want 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:45.800 to find some players that can help you do so 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.360 over the course of a long season. Yeah, looking at 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:52.120 some other spots on offense. Um, if you don't get 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:54.279 one of the top tight ends, one of those two 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.320 Iowa guys in the first round, you don't really know 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.680 how that's gonna fall. But this, this draft has, this 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.320 draft has a handful of tight ends that are definitely 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:05.080 going to be in play, whether you're talking the middle 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.080 of the second round, middle of the third round, middle 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.159 of the fourth round where the Packers have two picks 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.720 in the middle of the fourth round at one fourteen 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.800 and one eighteen, so a total of six picks in 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.760 the first four rounds. You know, I don't have all 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.400 the names off the top of my head, but whether 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:22.880 you're talking Irv Smith from Alabama, Ja Sternburger from Texas, 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.440 A and m um some other, um other other prospects 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:30.960 yet um the Stanford Stanford tight on, another West Coast guy, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.200 there are some there are some ways here that even 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.520 if those Iowa tight ends go off the board, that 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:40.240 the Packers can potentially address and maybe find that tight 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.000 end of the future, even if they don't find them 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.880 on Thursday night. It's a really fun draft for tight ends, 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.680 and we have not been able to say that every year. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.600 It almost seems like for the last maybe three or 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.480 four years, you and I have been talking about the 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.120 dearth of tight end prospects at least up in these 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.720 draft classes. Hockinson and Fans are are just for both 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.720 of them be coming out of the same program is insane. 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.160 They both have entirely different skill sets and they both 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:03.960 look like they're going to be stars in this league. 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:07.080 And it's really interesting. They'll wear these picks line up 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.440 because you don't know if Hockinson would be there at twelve, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.760 especially with some of these questions on the other top 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:13.600 ten guys, maybe a team just wants to go with 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.240 the surefire plug and play tight end. Wouldn't fault them 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:19.200 at all for that. But at the same time, the 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:23.280 the combine that fans had, it's not a given that 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:25.840 he's going to be there at thirty for the Packers. 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.960 So this is where I think IRV Smith Jr. It's 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.040 very interesting for him in this draft class because some 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.480 people have him in the early second round, maybe even 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.040 the late first round, middle second round. I really think 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.880 his value in this draft is going to be determined 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:42.720 by how early those Iowa kids go, because Smith, in 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.640 a lot of years, Mike would be the top prospect 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.640 at that position. Exactly what I was going to say 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.400 in a different year, if Smith from Alabama might be 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:54.040 the top tight end. Everyone has NFL bloodlines, his father 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.720 played in this league. He's coming out of a good program, 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.960 and he has a really good build. I mean, it 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.240 isn't the six five to fifty that a guy like 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.360 Hockinson is, but very talented. Sternberger, obviously out of Texas 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.360 A and M will be interesting to follow too. And 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.480 then another guy I think is really intriguing is call 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:13.079 Hale warning I'm gonna mess up his first name again, 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:15.880 wearing uh from San Diego State. This is a guy 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.000 that was kind of a late convert to that position, 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.079 but a big bodied guy that you might be able 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.400 to have in the second day of the draft, maybe 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.719 the third round. Just a lot of different guys that 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.200 are gonna make NFL teams, including the Packers really consider 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.679 that board. Yeah, And a couple of potential sleepers at 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:32.720 tight end that we've done prospect primers on Josh Oliver 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.240 from San Jose State and uh, shoot, the other one 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:41.640 is escaping me right now. Dawson Knox from from from Ole, 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:45.040 miss Yeah, the Mississippi tight end. He's actually I should 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:47.839 correct myself. Maybe his primer hasn't been on the website yet, 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.440 but I know I did a lot of them. I 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.240 did one on him, and if it's not up, it's 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.280 going up this week before the draft. But those are 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:56.199 another couple of when you're talking you know, mid mid 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:58.960 to even possibly late round guys depending on how this 0:09:59.040 --> 0:10:01.839 falls at tight end the other skill position cheer on 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.000 offense West I want to touch on before we shift 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.360 gears completely to the defensive side. Running back and wide receiver. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.720 We all know the Packers drafted three wide receivers last year. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.319 All three of those guys will be back now learning 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:16.079 a new offensive system with Matt Lafleur, a new head coach, 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:20.560 Nathaniel Hackett new offensive coordinator coming in. At running back, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.599 we know the Packers have Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams. 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.200 I think there are a couple of things that the 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.800 Packers might specifically target at those positions. Not necessarily very 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:31.839 high in the draft, but I'm wondering if they can 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.400 find a running back who maybe is one of these 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.480 really cat quick, speedy guys that just creates a matchup issue, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.200 uh in certain situations for a defensive coordinator. And then 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.400 at wide receiver, do you want to go out and 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:49.240 find that prototypical slot receiver who can step in for 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.160 Randall Cobb or do you just want to add to 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.480 your stable and then see based on the guys that 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.640 you have, if somebody emerges as the slot receiver. Your 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.160 thoughts on maybe which way the Packers go there? Well, first, 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.600 I want to start off at the running backs because 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.080 it's very interesting the situation the Packers find themselves in 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:06.440 because for all intents and purposes, they have two really 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.600 solid options there and in Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams. 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.719 But as I believe, if it correct me, if I'm 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.600 wrong in this, and if I am, I will be 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:15.360 the first one to admit it. But I believe it 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.600 was Matt Lafleur that was talking about it this offseason, 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.079 how you need to have three options there just because 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:21.920 of how the season plays out. You saw it last 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:23.880 year for him and with the Titans in even to 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.600 some extent here in Green Bay. So in that regard, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.400 there are a lot of interesting prospects. David Montgomery probably 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.120 fits that mold that you were talking about as a 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.280 guy that can pretty much do it all. Packers also 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:34.960 have number eighty eight available if they want to go 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.080 that direction with another kind of slash player playing eight 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.000 eight that has the last name of Montgomery. Never know. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.720 Devin Singletary is a guy that I really like coming 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.120 out of f a U. Yeah, Singletary is one who 0:11:45.160 --> 0:11:47.560 who's who's interesting to me. I looked at some stuff 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.160 on him for a prospect primer, and yeah, there's there's 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.040 a lot to be intrigued with. But Darryl Henderson, I mean, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.280 Elijah holy Field, very famous name as well. There Bryce 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.800 Love Benny Snell. I just think that over the course 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.480 of this three days, we're gonna be really gonna find 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.520 out what Brian Goodkins thinks about this class and how 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.880 potentially those guys can maybe helped compliment Aaron Jones and 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.520 Jamal Williams. Wouldn't surprise me either if the Packers don't 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.880 even draft anybody, But I just think if they do 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.920 take somebody at that position, it's going to be a 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.640 player they really really really like. Yeah, I I uh, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.160 I think a draft pick at running back is going 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.400 to tell us a lot potentially about what exactly is 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:28.679 the skill set that Matt Lafleur absolutely for in his offense. 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.760 So that is definitely something to keep an one. With 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:34.800 regards to wide receiver, Okay, we know Davante Adams is 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.240 your number one Geronimo Allison will be coming off of 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.760 an injury, but I would have to say is the 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:42.800 front runner for the number two wide receiver spot. At 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.480 this point, You've got the three draft picks from last year, 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.640 Valda Scantling, Jamon Moore, e q st Brown. You have 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.079 Jake Kumero in the mix. You have Alan Lazard, a 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:55.559 late season pick up in the mix. One thing I 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.760 guess we'll have to see. To me, the Packers have 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.120 of you know, have some depth there at wide receiver 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:07.080 already going in. It's almost as though, if there is 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.040 that difference making, playmaking type of wide receiver, who's there 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:13.600 at a good value in a certain spot. I could 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.760 see the Packers maybe taking a receiver with with one 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.520 of those picks on the first couple of days. But 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.880 otherwise I'm just not sure if you if you pick 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.520 somebody just to add another wide receiver to the mix, 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.520 I don't know. To me, it's like whether you're talking 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.840 that specific slot receiver guy or you're gonna or you're 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.000 gonna go up top to draft a guy you think 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.760 is the bona fide number two and go with Davante Adams. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:38.440 I just don't know if you're gonna do much in 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.959 the middle ground with everything that you already did last 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.680 year in the draft at the position. It's just my 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.920 gut feeling. Here's the thing that's very different from the 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.360 Brian Goodkinst era from when we were with Ted Thompson 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:52.160 here in Green Bay. Thompson really diversified the receivers a lot. 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.440 When you had Donald Driver, then you had Greg Jennings, 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:58.240 and you had Randall cop You also had your Jordy 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:00.960 Nelson's of the world too, But for most part they 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:02.599 had guys that could do a lot of things and 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.480 pretty much fit into that anywhere from five ten five 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.480 eleven to six ft two six ft three range. Now 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:12.720 they got a boatload of really tall receivers. Traditionally that 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:15.480 hasn't been the prototype for a slot player. But I 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.120 think one of the things they've really stressed here the 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.440 last couple of years is being multiple at that position, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.800 not having a guy that you just pinpoint as your 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.240 slot guy and then you you go about your business. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.200 So the thing I'm looking for is, yeah, I don't 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.000 I'm not expecting a Hakim Butler. I'm not expecting, you know, 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.240 one of these big tall targets to come in. But 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.800 do you look at one of those five ten guys? 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:36.560 Do you look at one of those because there's several 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:38.360 of them and that five ten to six foot range 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.760 that would fit the more traditional slot role. But and 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.840 you don't need to use necessarily a to get one 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.800 of those guys. I mean you look at my point. Yeah, 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.280 I mean you look at the way that this goes out. 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.680 You wrote about Hunter Renfree Renfro already from Clemson, But 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.560 I mean then you got what is it here? I 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.960 was just looking, um, Yeah, I mean Penny Hard from 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:57.520 Georgia State is five eight. I mean, you've got a 0:14:57.560 --> 0:14:59.720 bunch of guys in that six foot range. I mean, 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:05.200 and early on Marque's Browns five nine Oklahoma out Oklahoma. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.200 So that is gonna be much like we're talking about 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.320 with the running back position. Seeing exactly what they do 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.360 at receiver, I think is also gonna be a real 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:16.320 telltale sign of how they view the receiver position and 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.360 what it's gonna look like in terms of their assignments 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:20.840 going into Yeah, alright, well, I want to take care 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:22.600 of some sponsor business and then we'll get back to 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.400 talking defense. The Green Bay Packers get ready for game 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.280 day with the powerful noise canceling technology of Bo's Quiet 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.920 Comfort thirty five headphones. 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Okay, getting back to the defense of 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.240 side of things, Looking at some of those top picks 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.600 the Packers have again to rattle them off for your twelve, thirty, 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.239 forty four and seventy five are your picks on Thursday 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:14.120 and Friday in the first three rounds if Goodacoon stays put, 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:17.720 which we know is no guarantee. But I think the 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.440 point you brought up at the beginning of the show 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.320 is really interesting when you look at the front seven 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.680 and how this draft could fall at the top. Mantes 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:30.000 sweat and what with the type of athletic ability and 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.000 what he did at Mississippi State and where he was 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.200 being talked about a month or two ago or coming 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.240 out of the combine too. Now all of this the 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:43.000 medical issue that we're hearing with regards to something about 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.840 an enlarged heart. And I don't want to get into 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.920 all the medical without knowing exactly what's being talked about. 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:49.920 But what we're hearing is that some teams are taking 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:54.520 them off their board entirely supposedly because of this medical issue. 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.200 Teams are going to have different opinions on that. But 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.080 when you're talking about a guy who was projected as 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.800 a potential top ten, top twelve pick and now all 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.399 of a sudden nobody knows where he's gonna go, that's 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:09.040 a you know, that's the old wrench thrown into the 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.159 system here. And when you're trying to figure out who's 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.159 going to be there at twelve, and we don't know 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.520 what the Packers are thinking with regards to Sweat or 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.360 if they like other players better. Well, and the other 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.720 thing was too, I mean, coming off of Sweats Combine, 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.280 I just wrote him off that he's not going to 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:23.600 be there at twelve. I didn't think. And if he's 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.720 not there at twelve, that means that some other team 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.800 took him, which means another player falls to the Packers. 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.159 How that domino effect, you know, plays out, We're going 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.199 to find out on Thursday night. But I love this 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.920 draft for defensive players I mean, Quinn and Williams is 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.000 being looked at his potentially once in a generation type player. 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.840 Devin White is probably my favorite player in this year's draft. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.439 I just think he's athletic and versatile. He's he might 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.200 be mine as well, and he's coming out of Dave 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.720 Randa's system. I'm not saying there's just you know, pinpoint 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.280 parallels between what a Randa does and what you know, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.199 Mike Petton does, but I just I really like what 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.760 he brings the tables and every down player. Ed Oliver 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.960 was running really hot. Now there's been some questions about him, 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:02.720 it's still a real good talent. Rashaan Gary is a 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.359 phenomenal interview. I mean, I find a story fascinating, his 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.200 goals in life and what he wants to achieve, and 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:13.000 just seeing exactly who's gonna be there. Again, it's just 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:14.920 gonna depend on the dominoes here, but you know Boss 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:16.680 is gonna go, you know, Josh Allen's gonna go, you 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.160 know Williams is gonna go. Figuring it out from there. 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.080 I mean, it's it's kind of just a toss up, 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.199 But I mean there's just so much talent that I 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.200 think is really going to make teams consider him. Yeah, 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.159 you look at you look at three guys from the 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.560 in the defensive front seven from Clemson. You've got Dexter 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:37.480 Lawrence and and Cleveland Farrell and the other defensive lineman. 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.280 His name is escaping me at the moment. He's Christians Wilkins. Yeah. 0:18:41.359 --> 0:18:43.119 I believes the kid that graduated like two and a 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.640 half years or whatever. Yeah, and he's probably he could 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:47.760 be the one who's drafted the first out of those three. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.879 But but just the Clemson defensive alone is giving you 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.120 that ed inside linebacker you mentioned Devin White. The other 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.800 Devon is Devin Bush from Michigan. Everything that I'm seeing 0:18:57.800 --> 0:19:01.159 and reading indicates that there's a there a significant drop 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.760 off at inside linebacker after those two to kind of 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.520