1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: Hi everyone. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, joined alongside my partner in crime, 3 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Wes Hodkuwits were coming to you hear from our studios 4 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and Weston. Welcome to Draft week. It's here, 5 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: Thank god, it's here. They made it, made it. It's 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: like surviving the desert, right like you got to the 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: other side of it and you start to see that 8 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: mirage or that that waterfall at the end of it 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: and you're just like man, something of substance to talk about. Again, 10 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: we're not going over all the scenarios of well if 11 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: the Packers move back or move up or or trade 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: their pick until you know next year. No, finally all 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: the talking stops, we get some action. It is here. 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna focus this show on the draft as big 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: an overall overview draft preview as we can give you 16 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: here in the time allowed on Packers Unscripted. I'm just 17 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: going to dive right in here on offense west You 18 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: look at where the Packers are on offense to me, 19 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: and this is where I'm talking. You know, the the 20 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: upper picks the Packers have, the Packers have four picks 21 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: in the top seventy five of this draft, twelve at 22 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: thirty in the first round, forty four in the second round, 23 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: seventy five in the third round. So we're talking Thursday 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: and Friday's picks as they stand right now. When I 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: look at where the Packers are on offense, I think 26 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: the potential of those high using those high picks maybe 27 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: falls more likely at offensive line and or tight end 28 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: than perhaps any of the other positions. Now, of course, 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: we know anything can happen. That's kind of the way 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: I see this right now shaping up. What do you think? Well, 31 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: I just think you know and again we know nothing 32 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: condition and everything we say. But I do think there's 33 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: a lot of big people that are available here in 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: the first round that could really make Brian Goodakuinsen his 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: scouts think so, whether that's offensive line or defensive line, 36 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of talent there that they're 37 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: gonna have to consider. To me, it comes down to 38 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: three questions in terms of looking at specifically at the 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: number twelve position. One, how many quarterbacks go before? Then 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: maybe it's only one. We'll see what happens with Montez 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Sweat After some of the medicals and where he's gonna 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: fall in two or three, I should say, is how 43 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: many skill position players are we going to see get 44 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: on a run here? Is it just gonna be t J. Hockinson? 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Is there someone else? You know, DK Metcalf, somebody else 46 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: that that some team wants to potentially explore. Do you 47 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: want to get one of the top guys at those positions? 48 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: Once all that shuffles out, I think you're gonna see 49 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: what that board looks like for the Green Bay Packers. 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: To me, though, I think it's offensive line. I think 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: it's defensive line. I think the value is there at twelve, 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: and then potentially the position you don't address, maybe it's 53 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: there for you at thirty. Yeah. The interesting thing here 54 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: when you're talking the offensive skill positions. Everyone knows the 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: two tight ends from Iowa teach J. Hockins and Noah 56 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: Fanse being talked about as first round picks, But there's 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: a lot of talk that maybe only one wide receiver 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: is going to go in the first round talking Metcalf 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: from from Ole miss and then a very good chance 60 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: there won't be any running backs taken in the first round. 61 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: So it's an it's an unusual draft in the way 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: that that is shaping up, but usual too in the 63 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: standpoint that no cornerbacks probably are going to go in 64 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: the top twenty either, unless somebody wants to go up 65 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: and get Greedy Williams. So in terms of looking at 66 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: these past few years, different in that regard where the 67 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: skill position players, the burners aren't really high on that board. Yeah, 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: and that's where I think I'm with you Wes in 69 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: that if you look at offense and defense, the prospects 70 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: in the defensive front seven, whether you're talking defensive line, 71 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: whether you're talking edge rushers, even those couple off the 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: ball linebackers, the two Devons as I like to say, 73 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: Devin White Devon Bush from l s U and Michigan respectively. 74 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: You look at defensive front seven picks in the depth 75 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: of these offensive line picks, particularly the tackles of course 76 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: those first the first round type guys, it just looks 77 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: to me like there's going to be a pick of 78 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: the litter, so to speak, at twelve. If Brian Gouda 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: Kunz decides to stay at twelve as opposed to move 80 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: around now, he may move around as well, looking specifically 81 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: at offensive line, though The other thing that intrigues me 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: is that, say you look at five guys who are 83 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: being talked about here that's kind of the top five. 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: There are three of them, and I'm talking about Jonah Williams, 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: Dalton Reisner, and Cody Ford. Three of them are being 86 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: talked about as potential guard or techackle, you know, not 87 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: just being being pigeonholed, so to speak, strictly as a tackle. 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: Those guard tackle type of guys could be really really 89 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: interesting for the Packers and their their potential interest level. 90 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: It's a great point you raise here because if you 91 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: look back at the Ted Thompson and now Brian Goods era, 92 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: their m O hasn't been to draft an offensive linemen 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: early in on in these drafts and move them to guard. 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: They've liked to take those late round guys, sometimes on 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: drafted guys like Lane Taylor who are tried in true guards, 96 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: and then let them settle into those positions. Now that's 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: not to say they won't always do it. They did 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: it with j. C. Treader in the fourth round out 99 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: of Cornell, taking him as a tackle, moving him to center. 100 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: But it would be interesting if they would, potentially this 101 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: year make that decision that, Okay, well, we just like 102 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: this guy as a prototype. We like him as a 103 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: guy that could fit our scheme, and then we'll let 104 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: all the other stuff figure it out later on Another 105 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: player too, while he doesn't fit into your definition there 106 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: of that versatility. Andre Dillard, who was a teammate of 107 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: Cole Madison at Washington State, another guy that could potentially 108 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: be in that twelve spot. The number one thing, and 109 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: we've discussed this earlier in the off season, that that 110 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: I take away from the two thousand eighteen season is, 111 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: to steal for a phrase from Vick Catchman, you need 112 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: to get some more jars on the shelf there. The 113 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: Packers have a veteran deep offensive line, but we've seen 114 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: in three of the last four years how injuries can 115 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: really wither away that depth. I think you need to 116 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: get a guy that can play both of those spots. 117 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: You need to get another guy to develop there because 118 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: they've had a lot of success at that position. The 119 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: question for Brian good Kuntz and his scouts now is 120 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,119 Speaker 1: whether or not any of these four or five guys 121 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: that could potentially be there at both twelve and thirty 122 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: could be you know, prospects that could fit that vision. Yeah, 123 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: and Brian Gooda Kuntz went out in free agency and 124 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 1: signed Billy Turner, a guy who is also a guard tackle. 125 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: They didn't necessarily say this is the position that this 126 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: guy is gonna play. So I think all of that 127 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: makes the the offensive line prospects at the top of 128 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: this draft interesting. Um. And one more thing to consider too, 129 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: There was a time long ago people don't remember but this, 130 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: but in two thousand, third team and Brian Bloga tours 131 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: a c L at family night, David bak tr was 132 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: just starting to crack the lineup at right tackle. Things 133 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: can change quickly. You need to adjust and you want 134 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: to find some players that can help you do so 135 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: over the course of a long season. Yeah, looking at 136 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: some other spots on offense. Um, if you don't get 137 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: one of the top tight ends, one of those two 138 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: Iowa guys in the first round, you don't really know 139 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: how that's gonna fall. But this, this draft has, this 140 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: draft has a handful of tight ends that are definitely 141 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: going to be in play, whether you're talking the middle 142 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: of the second round, middle of the third round, middle 143 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: of the fourth round where the Packers have two picks 144 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: in the middle of the fourth round at one fourteen 145 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: and one eighteen, so a total of six picks in 146 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: the first four rounds. You know, I don't have all 147 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: the names off the top of my head, but whether 148 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: you're talking Irv Smith from Alabama, Ja Sternburger from Texas, 149 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: A and m um some other, um other other prospects 150 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: yet um the Stanford Stanford tight on, another West Coast guy, 151 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: there are some there are some ways here that even 152 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: if those Iowa tight ends go off the board, that 153 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: the Packers can potentially address and maybe find that tight 154 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: end of the future, even if they don't find them 155 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: on Thursday night. It's a really fun draft for tight ends, 156 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: and we have not been able to say that every year. 157 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: It almost seems like for the last maybe three or 158 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: four years, you and I have been talking about the 159 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: dearth of tight end prospects at least up in these 160 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: draft classes. Hockinson and Fans are are just for both 161 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: of them be coming out of the same program is insane. 162 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: They both have entirely different skill sets and they both 163 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: look like they're going to be stars in this league. 164 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: And it's really interesting. They'll wear these picks line up 165 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: because you don't know if Hockinson would be there at twelve, 166 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: especially with some of these questions on the other top 167 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: ten guys, maybe a team just wants to go with 168 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: the surefire plug and play tight end. Wouldn't fault them 169 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: at all for that. But at the same time, the 170 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: the combine that fans had, it's not a given that 171 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: he's going to be there at thirty for the Packers. 172 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: So this is where I think IRV Smith Jr. It's 173 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: very interesting for him in this draft class because some 174 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: people have him in the early second round, maybe even 175 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: the late first round, middle second round. I really think 176 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: his value in this draft is going to be determined 177 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: by how early those Iowa kids go, because Smith, in 178 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: a lot of years, Mike would be the top prospect 179 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: at that position. Exactly what I was going to say 180 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: in a different year, if Smith from Alabama might be 181 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: the top tight end. Everyone has NFL bloodlines, his father 182 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: played in this league. He's coming out of a good program, 183 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: and he has a really good build. I mean, it 184 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: isn't the six five to fifty that a guy like 185 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: Hockinson is, but very talented. Sternberger, obviously out of Texas 186 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: A and M will be interesting to follow too. And 187 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: then another guy I think is really intriguing is call 188 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: Hale warning I'm gonna mess up his first name again, 189 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: wearing uh from San Diego State. This is a guy 190 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: that was kind of a late convert to that position, 191 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: but a big bodied guy that you might be able 192 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: to have in the second day of the draft, maybe 193 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: the third round. Just a lot of different guys that 194 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: are gonna make NFL teams, including the Packers really consider 195 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: that board. Yeah, And a couple of potential sleepers at 196 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: tight end that we've done prospect primers on Josh Oliver 197 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: from San Jose State and uh, shoot, the other one 198 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: is escaping me right now. Dawson Knox from from from Ole, 199 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: miss Yeah, the Mississippi tight end. He's actually I should 200 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 1: correct myself. Maybe his primer hasn't been on the website yet, 201 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: but I know I did a lot of them. I 202 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: did one on him, and if it's not up, it's 203 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: going up this week before the draft. But those are 204 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: another couple of when you're talking you know, mid mid 205 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: to even possibly late round guys depending on how this 206 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: falls at tight end the other skill position cheer on 207 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: offense West I want to touch on before we shift 208 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: gears completely to the defensive side. Running back and wide receiver. 209 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: We all know the Packers drafted three wide receivers last year. 210 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: All three of those guys will be back now learning 211 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: a new offensive system with Matt Lafleur, a new head coach, 212 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett new offensive coordinator coming in. At running back, 213 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: we know the Packers have Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams. 214 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: I think there are a couple of things that the 215 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: Packers might specifically target at those positions. Not necessarily very 216 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: high in the draft, but I'm wondering if they can 217 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: find a running back who maybe is one of these 218 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: really cat quick, speedy guys that just creates a matchup issue, 219 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: uh in certain situations for a defensive coordinator. And then 220 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: at wide receiver, do you want to go out and 221 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: find that prototypical slot receiver who can step in for 222 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb or do you just want to add to 223 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: your stable and then see based on the guys that 224 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: you have, if somebody emerges as the slot receiver. Your 225 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: thoughts on maybe which way the Packers go there? Well, first, 226 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: I want to start off at the running backs because 227 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: it's very interesting the situation the Packers find themselves in 228 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: because for all intents and purposes, they have two really 229 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: solid options there and in Aaron Jones and Jamal Williams. 230 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: But as I believe, if it correct me, if I'm 231 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: wrong in this, and if I am, I will be 232 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: the first one to admit it. But I believe it 233 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: was Matt Lafleur that was talking about it this offseason, 234 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: how you need to have three options there just because 235 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: of how the season plays out. You saw it last 236 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: year for him and with the Titans in even to 237 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: some extent here in Green Bay. So in that regard, 238 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: there are a lot of interesting prospects. David Montgomery probably 239 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: fits that mold that you were talking about as a 240 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: guy that can pretty much do it all. Packers also 241 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: have number eighty eight available if they want to go 242 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: that direction with another kind of slash player playing eight 243 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: eight that has the last name of Montgomery. Never know. 244 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary is a guy that I really like coming 245 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: out of f a U. Yeah, Singletary is one who 246 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: who's who's interesting to me. I looked at some stuff 247 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: on him for a prospect primer, and yeah, there's there's 248 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: a lot to be intrigued with. But Darryl Henderson, I mean, 249 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: Elijah holy Field, very famous name as well. There Bryce 250 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Love Benny Snell. I just think that over the course 251 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: of this three days, we're gonna be really gonna find 252 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: out what Brian Goodkins thinks about this class and how 253 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: potentially those guys can maybe helped compliment Aaron Jones and 254 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Jamal Williams. Wouldn't surprise me either if the Packers don't 255 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: even draft anybody, But I just think if they do 256 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: take somebody at that position, it's going to be a 257 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: player they really really really like. Yeah, I I uh, 258 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: I think a draft pick at running back is going 259 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: to tell us a lot potentially about what exactly is 260 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: the skill set that Matt Lafleur absolutely for in his offense. 261 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: So that is definitely something to keep an one. With 262 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: regards to wide receiver, Okay, we know Davante Adams is 263 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: your number one Geronimo Allison will be coming off of 264 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: an injury, but I would have to say is the 265 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: front runner for the number two wide receiver spot. At 266 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: this point, You've got the three draft picks from last year, 267 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: Valda Scantling, Jamon Moore, e q st Brown. You have 268 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: Jake Kumero in the mix. You have Alan Lazard, a 269 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: late season pick up in the mix. One thing I 270 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: guess we'll have to see. To me, the Packers have 271 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: of you know, have some depth there at wide receiver 272 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: already going in. It's almost as though, if there is 273 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: that difference making, playmaking type of wide receiver, who's there 274 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: at a good value in a certain spot. I could 275 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: see the Packers maybe taking a receiver with with one 276 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: of those picks on the first couple of days. But 277 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: otherwise I'm just not sure if you if you pick 278 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: somebody just to add another wide receiver to the mix, 279 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, it's like whether you're talking 280 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: that specific slot receiver guy or you're gonna or you're 281 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: gonna go up top to draft a guy you think 282 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: is the bona fide number two and go with Davante Adams. 283 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: I just don't know if you're gonna do much in 284 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 1: the middle ground with everything that you already did last 285 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: year in the draft at the position. It's just my 286 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: gut feeling. Here's the thing that's very different from the 287 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: Brian Goodkinst era from when we were with Ted Thompson 288 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: here in Green Bay. Thompson really diversified the receivers a lot. 289 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: When you had Donald Driver, then you had Greg Jennings, 290 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: and you had Randall cop You also had your Jordy 291 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: Nelson's of the world too, But for most part they 292 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 1: had guys that could do a lot of things and 293 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: pretty much fit into that anywhere from five ten five 294 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: eleven to six ft two six ft three range. Now 295 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: they got a boatload of really tall receivers. Traditionally that 296 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: hasn't been the prototype for a slot player. But I 297 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: think one of the things they've really stressed here the 298 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: last couple of years is being multiple at that position, 299 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: not having a guy that you just pinpoint as your 300 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: slot guy and then you you go about your business. 301 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: So the thing I'm looking for is, yeah, I don't 302 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm not expecting a Hakim Butler. I'm not expecting, you know, 303 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: one of these big tall targets to come in. But 304 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: do you look at one of those five ten guys? 305 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: Do you look at one of those because there's several 306 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: of them and that five ten to six foot range 307 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: that would fit the more traditional slot role. But and 308 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: you don't need to use necessarily a to get one 309 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: of those guys. I mean you look at my point. Yeah, 310 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean you look at the way that this goes out. 311 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: You wrote about Hunter Renfree Renfro already from Clemson, But 312 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean then you got what is it here? I 313 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: was just looking, um, Yeah, I mean Penny Hard from 314 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: Georgia State is five eight. I mean, you've got a 315 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: bunch of guys in that six foot range. I mean, 316 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: and early on Marque's Browns five nine Oklahoma out Oklahoma. 317 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: So that is gonna be much like we're talking about 318 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: with the running back position. Seeing exactly what they do 319 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: at receiver, I think is also gonna be a real 320 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: telltale sign of how they view the receiver position and 321 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like in terms of their assignments 322 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: going into Yeah, alright, well, I want to take care 323 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: of some sponsor business and then we'll get back to 324 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: talking defense. The Green Bay Packers get ready for game 325 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: day with the powerful noise canceling technology of Bo's Quiet 326 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: Comfort thirty five headphones. 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Okay, getting back to the defense of 336 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: side of things, Looking at some of those top picks 337 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: the Packers have again to rattle them off for your twelve, thirty, 338 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,239 Speaker 1: forty four and seventy five are your picks on Thursday 339 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: and Friday in the first three rounds if Goodacoon stays put, 340 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: which we know is no guarantee. But I think the 341 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: point you brought up at the beginning of the show 342 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: is really interesting when you look at the front seven 343 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: and how this draft could fall at the top. Mantes 344 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: sweat and what with the type of athletic ability and 345 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: what he did at Mississippi State and where he was 346 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: being talked about a month or two ago or coming 347 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: out of the combine too. Now all of this the 348 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: medical issue that we're hearing with regards to something about 349 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: an enlarged heart. And I don't want to get into 350 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: all the medical without knowing exactly what's being talked about. 351 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: But what we're hearing is that some teams are taking 352 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: them off their board entirely supposedly because of this medical issue. 353 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Teams are going to have different opinions on that. But 354 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: when you're talking about a guy who was projected as 355 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: a potential top ten, top twelve pick and now all 356 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: of a sudden nobody knows where he's gonna go, that's 357 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: a you know, that's the old wrench thrown into the 358 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: system here. And when you're trying to figure out who's 359 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: going to be there at twelve, and we don't know 360 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: what the Packers are thinking with regards to Sweat or 361 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: if they like other players better. Well, and the other 362 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: thing was too, I mean, coming off of Sweats Combine, 363 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: I just wrote him off that he's not going to 364 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: be there at twelve. I didn't think. And if he's 365 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: not there at twelve, that means that some other team 366 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: took him, which means another player falls to the Packers. 367 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: How that domino effect, you know, plays out, We're going 368 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: to find out on Thursday night. But I love this 369 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: draft for defensive players I mean, Quinn and Williams is 370 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: being looked at his potentially once in a generation type player. 371 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Devin White is probably my favorite player in this year's draft. 372 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: I just think he's athletic and versatile. He's he might 373 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: be mine as well, and he's coming out of Dave 374 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: Randa's system. I'm not saying there's just you know, pinpoint 375 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: parallels between what a Randa does and what you know, 376 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: Mike Petton does, but I just I really like what 377 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: he brings the tables and every down player. Ed Oliver 378 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: was running really hot. Now there's been some questions about him, 379 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: it's still a real good talent. Rashaan Gary is a 380 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: phenomenal interview. I mean, I find a story fascinating, his 381 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: goals in life and what he wants to achieve, and 382 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: just seeing exactly who's gonna be there. Again, it's just 383 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: gonna depend on the dominoes here, but you know Boss 384 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: is gonna go, you know, Josh Allen's gonna go, you 385 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: know Williams is gonna go. Figuring it out from there. 386 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's kind of just a toss up, 387 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: But I mean there's just so much talent that I 388 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: think is really going to make teams consider him. Yeah, 389 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: you look at you look at three guys from the 390 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: in the defensive front seven from Clemson. You've got Dexter 391 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: Lawrence and and Cleveland Farrell and the other defensive lineman. 392 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: His name is escaping me at the moment. He's Christians Wilkins. Yeah. 393 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: I believes the kid that graduated like two and a 394 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: half years or whatever. Yeah, and he's probably he could 395 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: be the one who's drafted the first out of those three. 396 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: But but just the Clemson defensive alone is giving you 397 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: that ed inside linebacker you mentioned Devin White. The other 398 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: Devon is Devin Bush from Michigan. Everything that I'm seeing 399 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: and reading indicates that there's a there a significant drop 400 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: off at inside linebacker after those two to kind of 401 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: everybody else that's in the draft. So that's another thing 402 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: that's interesting to me. Now, the Packers obviously have Blake 403 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: Martinez as a key communicator, signal caller, and and tackle 404 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: machine so to speak. In this Mike Petton defense. You 405 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: spent a third round pick on Orn Burke's last year. 406 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: You're looking for that second year jump from him. But 407 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: you just wonder if one of those Devon's is there 408 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: at number twelve, with as big of a drop off 409 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: as they're saying there is at that position in this draft. 410 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: You wonder if now I don't think Devin White is 411 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: going to be there. I think maybe the question is 412 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: whether Devin is whether Devin Bush would be there. You 413 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: wonder if Brian Gudakunst, you know, makes that move right there. 414 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: But again, he's going to be leaving some other you know, 415 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: defensive front or edge rusher type players still on the board. 416 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: That's the thing, right, I mean, you obviously you only 417 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: have one peg to fill the holes, so I mean 418 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: figuring out what you want to do with it is 419 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: always interesting. But then you look at what ro Kuan 420 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: Smith did last year for Chicago and showing up Vic 421 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: Fangio's defense, being the top ten pick early on in 422 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: the top inside linebacker on the board. I think both 423 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: of those guys are going to be really good NFL 424 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: football players every down, players built for defenses in two 425 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen UM. But again, it depends on what the 426 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: Packers want to do. They feel good about Blake Martinez, 427 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: but we also know that Mantra, you can never have 428 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: good enough football players. They had to use a safety 429 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: at that other inside linebacker position for the most of 430 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: last season. You know, do one of those two guys 431 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: make you consider going back to a more traditional player 432 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: in that role. Yeah, And when you look at the 433 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: safety position, if there is a position on defense, even 434 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: after free agency, with you know, signing the two Smiths 435 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: at outside linebacker, signing Adrian Amos at safety, there's still 436 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: basically a wide open starting spot on this Mike Petton 437 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: defense at safety. Right now. I don't see the Packers 438 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: using the twelve pick at safety, but certainly there are 439 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: going to be some options there at number thirty a 440 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: couple of guys that we've talked about. Thornhill from Virginia 441 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: is an interesting prospect as a guy who has played 442 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: some corner, had a lot of cover skills intercepted I 443 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: believe six passes last year as a center field for 444 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: the for the Cavaliers, So a lot of a wide 445 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: ranging skill set there. And then of course, the the descendants, 446 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: so to speak of the Packers Hall of Famer Herb 447 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: at Ely, I'm talking about Nasir Adderly now if I 448 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: have it correct, from the story I wrote from the Combine, 449 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: it's Nasir's grandfather who is a cousin of Herb. But 450 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: Nasir and Herb have known each other. They they connected 451 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: during high school and they've known each other for a 452 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: while now, so he's well aware of the of the 453 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: bloodlines and everything, and and that name and what it 454 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: means in terms of, you know, a pro football Hall 455 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: of Famer and the family and the Green Bay Packers 456 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: and whatnot really interesting prospect from Delaware that you know, 457 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: the Packers might consider at thirty or at forty four 458 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: something like that, you know, on Thursday or Friday. And atterly, 459 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: is a phenomenal football name to have. Obviously his his cousin. 460 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: Don't get me into figuring out the trees of all that. 461 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't never have understood that second cousin, once removed 462 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: or whatever. But the thing I love most about him, though, 463 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: who does in my opinion, maybe you disagree, who does 464 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: he really remind you of? To me, it's Nick Collins. 465 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: I just you look at where he came from, his 466 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: humble beginnings, the school pedigree, and and just played out 467 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: of his mind at that level. Ball hawking pedigree, A 468 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: smart football player that seems seems to have a good 469 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: natural fit for the position, whether it's Greenberrier. Otherwise, I 470 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: think they're getting a good player in aderaly Um. But 471 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, I mean also some other talented guys 472 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: in this Taylor rap from Washington. The former teammate I 473 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: believe of Kevin king over there coming out of d 474 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: b U H was sort of an under the radar 475 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: prospect became a really solid football player for them. So yeah, 476 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: a lot of talented safeties and a lot of guys 477 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: that you consider going with Amos back there. Yeah, all right, well, 478 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: I think we could talk about this draft preview stuff 479 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: till till the cows come on. You've got something I'm 480 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: going to There's one more guy I want to talk 481 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: about because we didn't get to it. It was the 482 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: number one name on everybody's tongue after the combine. Do 483 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: you remember who that was? Brian Burns coming out of 484 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: the edge rushing position. I swear to you, Mike, after 485 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: his combine, I had every Packer fan on Twitter saying, 486 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: go get that guy. He could potentially be in the 487 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: cards there as well. But it's gonna depend on what 488 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: they want to do after signing these other outside linebackers. 489 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: I just want to leave that on the table. You 490 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: can never have enough edge rushers, and Burns really increased 491 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: his stock over the last couple of months. Yeah, he did. 492 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: He's a guy who was who is being who is 493 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,719 Speaker 1: being talked about now as a top fifteen guy one 494 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago that wasn't necessarily He put 495 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: himself in a great position, put on good, healthy weight, 496 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: a really good football player. Has seems like he has 497 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: zone tendencies to be able to do some dropping. I 498 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: just think he's gonna be He's gonna help somebody out 499 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: in this draft and could potentially be another player the 500 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: Packers have to consider at twelve. Alright, well, we'll do 501 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: one more show this week before the draft on Thursday, 502 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,919 Speaker 1: But for now we're going to sign off on this 503 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to follow all of 504 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: our coverage of the team on Packers dot Com. Subscribe 505 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: to us if you're a podcast listener on iTunes like 506 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: us there as well. If you don't mind, you can 507 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: follow him on Twitter at west had i Am at 508 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks for 509 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: tuning in, everybody, See you next time.