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Speaker 1: Hey Friday edition of Texans All Access from the Monday

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, John Harris, and we've

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Speaker 1: got plenty of four. You're gonna hear from Cecil Shorts,

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Speaker 1: former Texan, former Jag, former Buck. He sat down with

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Speaker 1: drewe Doherty and talked about any number of things. And

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Speaker 1: you can also see Cecil on Texas three sixty Withdrew

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Speaker 1: on Saturday evening. So put that into your DVRD locking

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Speaker 1: away so you'll hear Cecil later in the show, Budd.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to the Voice of the Texas Mark

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Speaker 1: vannimre a little bit of Texans news on this Friday evening.

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Speaker 1: The Texans have officially released Vernon Hargraves. Hargraves joined the

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Speaker 1: team about halfway through the year. He was released in Tampa,

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Speaker 1: the Texans claiming him on waivers, and Vernon was due

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Speaker 1: in his fifth year because the Buccaneers exercise that option

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Speaker 1: to earn about ten million dollars. It's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of discussion about the Texans trying to renegotiate a deal

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Speaker 1: that would help them and help the cap situation. The

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Speaker 1: Texans aren't in dire cap shape, but Vernon was going

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Speaker 1: to be about a ten million dollar cap hit. It's

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Speaker 1: probably not where his value is. So doesn't mean the

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Speaker 1: Texans won't bring him back in some capacity, but it

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Speaker 1: just means as of right now, he is no longer

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. He is free to negotiate with any team

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Speaker 1: throughout the league, including the Texans. Now that we've gotten

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Speaker 1: our Friday news out of the way, let's bring in

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Texans. Mark Vanni remark, how are

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Speaker 1: you doing, Johnny? Always a pleasure to be on and

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Speaker 1: that what was a TGIG I t F. Thank God

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Speaker 1: is Texans Friday. I mean, we have to copyright that

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Speaker 1: in case the Titans try to steal it for TG

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Speaker 1: I t F Titans Friday. They can't have Titans try

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Speaker 1: to be battle with them. All these things. And I

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Speaker 1: still hear national announcers and I'm sure you do too,

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Speaker 1: every once in a while when they're talking about either team,

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Speaker 1: especially when they're talking about the Texans, they sometimes call

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Speaker 1: the Texans the Titans and second reference. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: really good, isn't it. Yeah. Grand name recognition is a thing, though,

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Speaker 1: like yank that my AFC South breakdown and playoff performances

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Speaker 1: in the O'Brien era, it's the brand name recognition thing.

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Speaker 1: When you have the brand name of the say NFC East,

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Speaker 1: you think, oh, that's a that's a good division. I

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Speaker 1: know they've struggled lately, but they did what a super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: But that's a good division. It's really not. It's not

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Speaker 1: that good a division. No, They've got those big brands, man,

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Speaker 1: the Giants, the Reds, Goods, the Eagles and you know who.

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Speaker 1: I've been watching the r nothing on the Eagles season.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, I love that show. It started. The very

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Speaker 1: first thing they did was the Cardinals back in twenty

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Speaker 1: fifteen was Arians. Yeahs Arians was there and that was

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Speaker 1: the year they went to the NFC Championship Game and

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Speaker 1: it was such a compelling series. And then they did

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Speaker 1: the Rams the next year and it was compelling for

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Speaker 1: a bad reason because they fired Jeff Fisher at the Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Then then they did the Panthers in eighteen. They did

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Speaker 1: the Ezekiel Elliott year where he got suspended, right, and

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Speaker 1: so there was a lot of focus on that. Then

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Speaker 1: they did the Panthers, and this year they actually released

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Speaker 1: it in February, which normally they don't release it until August,

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Speaker 1: so I was really I was glad they did it,

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Speaker 1: and they did the Eagles, and it was really interesting

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Speaker 1: to watch a different team's season over the whole season,

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Speaker 1: players miked up for all these different games and that's

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Speaker 1: this past season. Yeah, it's this past season, the championship,

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Speaker 1: I've gotten to the point of the season. I've gotten

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Speaker 1: the point where the Eagles are five and six, having

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Speaker 1: just lost the Patriots. Now they're going down to Miami

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Speaker 1: get back on track. And that's the game they lose

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Speaker 1: because they had that trick play. Remember that trick play?

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Speaker 1: Now the Philadelphia Eagles, you would think minus had two

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Speaker 1: you ready? I'm ready for quarterback roulette? Would you like

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Speaker 1: Mark Vanderber, I'll spin it, Johnny, Yeah, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Roll at spin that wheel. That sounds like an old

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Speaker 1: AFC South the Tennessee Titans. Now, the Tennessee Titans quarterback

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Speaker 1: situation is as follows. Ryan Tannehill unrestricted free agent, Marcus

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Speaker 1: of people thought, well, they'll definitely sign him before he

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Speaker 1: the market like for Ryan Tannehill? Considering who else is

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Speaker 1: well with him. Is he the guy? I think more

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Speaker 1: You're probably thinking, well, look, he's a free agent. We're

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Speaker 1: offensive chronology I like to use. That could be pretty

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Speaker 1: scary for the AFC South. So what becomes more important

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Speaker 1: to typically? Typically, Yeah, we know that the quarterback position

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Speaker 1: Which guy is more important to sign? You can sign

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is running the football, well, but you need

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Speaker 1: somebody who's steady, reliable, and apparently the team really responded

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Speaker 1: would say Henry's the more valuable guy. However, Johnny, if

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Speaker 1: you invest in Henry, then who's your quarterback? A quarterback

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Speaker 1: we go that roll that wheel? Okay, love that sound.

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Speaker 1: England Patriots. Who's the quarterback in New Who is the

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady is an understricted free agent. The backups Jared

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Speaker 1: Will Brady go back to New England? Will he be

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Speaker 1: the dice with Jared Stidham a second year man? So

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Speaker 1: What do the Patriots do at quarterbacks? Well? As interesting

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Speaker 1: England right now? What are they talking about? What is

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Speaker 1: the level of openness that Brady has with the organization

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Speaker 1: right now? As far as he'll definitely come back if

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Speaker 1: you want me? Do you want me? Do they want him?

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Speaker 1: he's so proven, so many pelts, everybody falls in line

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Speaker 1: great I think it's a great option. I think it's

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Speaker 1: one of the Chargers have to consider. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: maybe the Lasick changes things now. I think I think

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Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn and Tom talesco city now going how much

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Speaker 1: did Philip rivers turnovers annoy us a lot? Well, then

425
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Speaker 1: maybe Jamis isn't isn't that guy. But to your point,

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Speaker 1: all right, you got Lasick, maybe in our system it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit better go and get a couple of

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Speaker 1: free agents on the offensive line to get to help

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Speaker 1: him out. I gotta move to football too, I mean

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Speaker 1: I got he vision ball. No, you bring up a

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Speaker 1: great point, and at the vision you're gonna beat the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs playing small ball. Probably not. And you know how

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Speaker 1: coaches feel. Aleck Arians took some chances, you know, the

434
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Speaker 1: no risk and no biscuit. Well they risked it a

435
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Speaker 1: few times and they lost some biscuits with Winston's picks.

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Speaker 1: They feel like if they reel them in a little

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Speaker 1: bit here, they can still get some of that downfield,

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Speaker 1: big chunk play momentum they're looking for moving into the

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Speaker 1: new building. I don't know how much that plays into it,

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Speaker 1: but that's boy. Do they need that new build. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you. Let me ask you this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna present this option to you. You can have

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Speaker 1: either Jamis Winston or you'll have the money to resign

444
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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry and you make a deal. You give up

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Speaker 1: a third rounder, third rounder for Andy Dalton. So one

446
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Speaker 1: side you got Jamis Winston. On the other side you

447
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Speaker 1: got Andy Dalton and Hunter Henry coming back and Henry

448
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Speaker 1: coming back. I like Katie High School, Andy Dalton, I do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and Los Angeles doesn't exactly light my fire,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I know exactly what

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Speaker 1: you're saying. I knew exactly what you're saying. What are

452
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Speaker 1: they called the ginger rifleman, the injured, the redhead rifle though,

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Speaker 1: the red rifle. I don't know. They love them in Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: though Buffalo. I mean, speaking of Baltimore, who's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the quarterback for a ball. Oh we already okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: we know what that's gonna be. Though. You're getting me

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Speaker 1: all excited there for a moment. No, all right, the

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Speaker 1: next one is okay, the next one's a good one. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: here we go. I thought I heard the wheel of spit.

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Speaker 1: Was that just a practice spit? Yeah? I was just

461
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Speaker 1: kind of practicing. I got you, let's do it, and

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Speaker 1: well let's do it again. All right? What you landed

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Speaker 1: on one you didn't like? Yeah, I didn't like that one? Side?

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Speaker 1: You do it? What do we got? The Indianapolis Colts?

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Speaker 1: All right, it's about time, by the way. Yeah, I

466
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Speaker 1: think that when we look at the big three in

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Speaker 1: this case, in our situation, because the Texans play all

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Speaker 1: three of these teams, the Titans of the Colts in

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Speaker 1: the division, and the Patriots out of the divisions, and

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Speaker 1: it feels like the Patriots are almost in your division

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Speaker 1: at this point you play them so much. But when

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Speaker 1: you look at those three, the most likely to parture

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Speaker 1: or change, because Brissette might still be with the team,

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Speaker 1: but change as a starting quarterback occurs in which of

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Speaker 1: those cities, I would say it's probably Indianapolis even though

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Speaker 1: they have Brissette under contract, Yes, and the Titans don't

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Speaker 1: have Tannehill under contract. This is just how I'm gonna

478
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Speaker 1: pick it right here, that they think we gotta do

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Speaker 1: something at quarterback. We gotta do something a little bit

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Speaker 1: different here. We're not moving the football the way we want.

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Speaker 1: And I think, in fairness to Brissette, injury probably had

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Speaker 1: something to do with this. They would know that a

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Speaker 1: whole lot better than I do from a farm. But

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Speaker 1: I still say that this is the most likely one

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Speaker 1: to change over. And is it going to be a

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Speaker 1: free agent if Brady were available, would they do it?

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Speaker 1: Would Rivers aggravate them too much? I think so. I

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Speaker 1: don't think I see Rivers in Indianapolis. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's their kind of guy. I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: very turnover a verse. They're gonna want to grind out games,

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Speaker 1: and he's not a game grinder. Okay, I don't think

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Speaker 1: they see it like that. So I don't see Rivers

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Speaker 1: in Indie watch movie totally wrong. Um, And it's a

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Speaker 1: great question, like what am I? I could see Bridgewater

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Speaker 1: in Indy Okay, but I just signed him to Las Vegas, right?

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Speaker 1: You send him to darn it. So I'm running out

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks here. Who else do I have on my

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Speaker 1: availability list? Okay? So Tom Brady Patriots, Marcus Mariotte is available,

499
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Speaker 1: case Keenom's available. Teddy Bridgewater we sent to Las Vegas.

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Speaker 1: We've got Philip You just talked to yourself out of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I did. Got a very interesting who I know the

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Speaker 1: next team I gotta come up with. Okay, uh, you

503
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Speaker 1: got Drew Brees. You sent Jameis Winston to the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton right now is still a Bengal, Still a Bengal.

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Speaker 1: You have Nick Fole still a Jaguar. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something. And Derek Carr is now out on the

507
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Speaker 1: market because you've moved Teddy Bridgewater. If Drew Brees were available,

508
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Speaker 1: this is a great spot for him, and it's not

509
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Speaker 1: far from his college. Okay, there's that to think about.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that plays into it at all, but

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Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting to point out at this juncture.

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Speaker 1: I like Breeze an Indie from a Breeze Indie standpoint,

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Speaker 1: I don't like it as a Houston Texas. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: I do not want to see that. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: if somehow you end up with like Brady in no

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Speaker 1: in like what are you doing to me? That's like

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Speaker 1: five version of hell, oh my god, stop no, and

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Speaker 1: then Jacksonville is like falls miss new I am not ready. Yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 1: uh let's go. Yeah, well I can't go breeze here

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Speaker 1: because I already shipped Bridgewater off. Yeah, keep in mind

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Speaker 1: you can also put in a rookie as well. You

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Speaker 1: can also say the Colts are going to draft, and

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Speaker 1: I think we talked about that in recent on a

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Speaker 1: recent episode of this program. Yes, I kind of think

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Speaker 1: that if they're gonna change Brisett under contract not huge money,

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Speaker 1: but why not drafter guy and go ahead and develop

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Speaker 1: them with Jacoby there to take the starters reps. That's

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Speaker 1: what I thought. I don't know if if he wins

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Speaker 1: the job, he wins the job. If he doesn't right away,

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Speaker 1: I can wait, I can drew lock him. You know.

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Speaker 1: Now Locke was injured though, right he got injured a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a different deal. But you get my drift. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get your drift. Okay, you're ready for the last one? Yes,

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Speaker 1: all right, hold on here, let me get the war.

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Speaker 1: We get the wheel. Ready, we get the wheel ready.

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Speaker 1: Here we go spending one more time. We're running out

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Speaker 1: of teams to land out, so maybe we don't land

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Speaker 1: on the same one twice for some reason with this wheel. Oh,

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Speaker 1: if I could speak French, I would talk to you

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Speaker 1: about the New Orleans Saints in French. We yeah, we

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Speaker 1: we the New Orleans Saints. Okay, so pretty interesting. Drew Breeze,

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Speaker 1: we'll be an understricted free agent. His contract voids on

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Speaker 1: March eighteenth. Teddy Bridgewater, We've are talked about that. Oh,

544
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Speaker 1: and then there's the guy Taysom Hill that everybody has

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Speaker 1: been talking about lately. Who is the quarterback for the

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints in twenty twenty. Yeah, Hill's throwing so

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Speaker 1: many passes that no, he hasn't exactly And I can

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Speaker 1: tell you I'm not going to start right now. Taysom

549
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Speaker 1: Hill is not going to be the Saint starting quarterback

550
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. If I'm in the NFC South, That's

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Speaker 1: what I want more than anything right now. Please have

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Speaker 1: him be the starting quarterback in twenty twenty. Yes, Falcons,

553
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: Bucks and Panthers would be cheering. I think the guy's

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Speaker 1: a hell of a football player. I just you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to quarterback. Yeah, and he might be

556
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Speaker 1: some day. I don't know. I mean, give him a shot,

557
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Speaker 1: but not right now. If you're the Saints, look, the

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00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: most likely thing is that Brady stays in New England

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Speaker 1: and Breeze stays in New Orleans. Right, Rivers has already

560
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: departed with the LA He's done. Yeah, so it is

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Speaker 1: possible that you see these long time bonds broken between

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Speaker 1: player and team. I think Breeze ultimately stays, though, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: But let me ask you this, between New England and

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Speaker 1: Brady and Breeze and New Orleans, does either of those

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Speaker 1: dominoes change? I was gonna say fall, but I'm mixing

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Speaker 1: metaphors here. I don't think. So. You don't think they

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Speaker 1: don't think Brady stays, Breeze stays. I absolutely. I think

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Speaker 1: if anybody moves, I think it might end up being Breeze.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I felt like the last two years

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Speaker 1: you've seen some physical decline in Breeze. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the year, he does not look the same as

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Speaker 1: he did at the beginning of the year, So I

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Speaker 1: think there's some bread and be honest, I watched Tom

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Speaker 1: up close. You saw rethrow. I saw rethrow. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see a physical decline in Tom. I just saw you

576
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Speaker 1: didn't have any weapons. Did anybody throw it weapons? Pass

577
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Speaker 1: rush breaks, I mean that pass rush gets to it.

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Speaker 1: Drew Breeze has weapons. I just felt like physically he

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Speaker 1: started to kind of break down at the end of

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So yeah, put it this way,

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Speaker 1: like what offense would you want to operate in if

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Speaker 1: you're a free agent quarterback? New Orleans, the England? I mean,

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Speaker 1: drop me right, drop me right into New Orleans? Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: go give me Kamara and Michael Thomas both under contract.

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Speaker 1: An offensive line for the most part that's under contract

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Speaker 1: except for Andre's Pete. You gotta findal left guard Jered

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Speaker 1: Cook under contract. Drop me right into New Orleans. Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's said with that coaching staff that said, I still

589
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Speaker 1: think it's Breese. What do you say, I say that

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Speaker 1: New Orleans sticks with Breeze. I think that's the most

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Speaker 1: likely thing that's gonna happen this offseason. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: as I said, I think it'd be really interesting for

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Speaker 1: the NFL and it's fans if you had massive chaos

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Speaker 1: here in terms of quarterbacks leaving their long time perchase

595
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: like Breezes in New Orleans, Brady in New England. You

596
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Speaker 1: already had Rivers. Let's get Rothensburger out of Pittsburgh. Shake

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Speaker 1: up the whole thing, the whole thing. Yeah, I appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, John. Shake up the whole thing, baby, Let's

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Speaker 1: go all right. Speaking of shaking it up, a guy

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Speaker 1: that could do his work in the slot shake some

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Speaker 1: dbs out of their socks was Cecil Shorts. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: join us next to talk about how we got to

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Speaker 1: Mount Union and what the combine was like for a

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Speaker 1: guy from a D three school. Do that next the

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access. We've got one final segment of this

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Speaker 1: Friday issue of Texas All Access from the Texans Radio Studio,

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Speaker 1: sponsored by our friends at Hyundai. I'm your host, John Harris.

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Speaker 1: That's fun talking about quarterbacks with Mark Vannimer. I think

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Speaker 1: this gets to be one of the most intriguing, interesting,

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Speaker 1: use whatever adjective you want to use to describe this

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Speaker 1: offseason for quarterbacks. It's going to be wild. I think

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Speaker 1: think of these names, Brady Newton, Tannehill, Mariota, Keena, Bridgewater, Rivers, Breeze,

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Speaker 1: Winston Dalton, falls Car. Those are all names we've gotten

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Speaker 1: used to seeing Brady with the Pads, Newton with the Panthers. Keena, well,

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Speaker 1: Keena has been in a lot of different places, but

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Speaker 1: Rivers with the Chargers. Those are all players that really

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Speaker 1: established in certain places, and this year could upset the

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Speaker 1: apple cart all over the place. Not to mention players

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Speaker 1: coming into the league to a tongue of violoa, Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, Jordan Love, Jake from those are all players

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Speaker 1: that were definitely gonna have to keep eyes on during

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Speaker 1: the draft. But this free agency period when things can start,

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Speaker 1: it will go crazy and it we'll start about a

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Speaker 1: month from today. I think it's about a month from today.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere in there, the new league year starts and then

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Speaker 1: free agency starts taking place, start getting things together. The

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Speaker 1: draft follows after that, and then you're on into the

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Speaker 1: OTAs in mini camp, and then you're to the desert

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00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: and then training camp and then twenty twenty seasons here already.

630
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: How awesome is that? All right? Speaking of quarterbacks, guy

631
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: that's about to join the show it Drew Doherty was

632
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: a former quarterback. He was a quarterback in high school

633
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: when he got to college, they said, well, we think

634
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: you've got an opportunity to play at a higher level

635
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: out of receiver. He played at Mount Union. Mount Union

636
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: a Division three powerhouse. He was draft to buy the

637
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: Jags and then moved to the Texans in twenty fifteen.

638
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: And it's in Houston where we had a chance to meet,

639
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: get to know and learn all about Cecil Shorts. Well,

640
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: Drew Dolready caught up with him to talk about his

641
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: time at Mount Union and also what it was like

642
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: to go to the combine. Since the combines coming up,

643
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: what I get you your take on things because I

644
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: remember when you were at the combine? Really, I absolutely,

645
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: I've been to every combine since twenty ten. Wow. And

646
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: I remember because you have Cecil Shorts. That's not a

647
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: common name. It's a different name. So I remember when

648
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 1: I heard your name, I was like, oh, that's interesting.

649
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: And then three or four years later you wind up

650
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: signing with the Texans. What was it like going through

651
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: the combine? And we're gonna hear this story and then

652
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: I want you to rewind back and tell another story.

653
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: But your combine experience was a different one because you

654
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: were coming from three Division three and the combines essentially

655
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: peppered with d ones. Oh Man, you were you were

656
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: sort of an outlier there. What was that like for

657
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: you coming coming into that. It's crazy because when you

658
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: had Division three school you still root for Division one programs.

659
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: So we were all we all had our you know,

660
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: we loved the Ohio state. We're in Ohio, yep. Commos

661
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: is about three and three and a half hours from us,

662
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: so we'd loved the Ohio state. Most of us that

663
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: were from Ohio, and then you got got some order

664
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: that loved you know, Miami or Florida State or whatever

665
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: SEC schools and everybody had different teams. So when you

666
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: go when I got to the combine and seeing like

667
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, somebody you watching, you know, we will play

668
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: our game and then that evening we'll watched Cam Newton

669
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: last TV. Yeah, because he was playing in primetime that year.

670
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: There were at practice, you know, doing the Superman sign

671
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: and stuff. So it was it was weird because I

672
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: was kind of like a fan of a lot of

673
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: the players there, and I had to realize, like, yo,

674
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: you were here for business too, Like you you're you're

675
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: good too, U. And that was a battle I had

676
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: with a lot of my career just try to try

677
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: to prove that I was I belong But the Combine

678
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: experience was great. Man. I never got so many so

679
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: much free stuff before ever from under Armor, under Armor, Nike, Adidas.

680
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: Especially when guys try to lure you in to sign you, um,

681
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 1: they give you as much stuff as you as you want,

682
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 1: and it's it's so much that goes on. Man, it's

683
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: kind of crazy because everybody's like set up for like

684
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: you see the land yards at the players wear and

685
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: they got little cards and on the car let you

686
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: know the meetings and the times and the rooms and

687
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: where where to go. So each day you got you know,

688
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: meetings and it's just one room though where it's like

689
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: a madhouse, and it's like position coaches and and I

690
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: guess there's manly position coaches from each team and they

691
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: have a list of guys they need to find out

692
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: or need to talk to. So one of the guys

693
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: from like Keenny mccartell, I think he's working with the

694
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: Reskines at the time, and he just wouldn't let me leave,

695
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: so gat me at the table and talk to him,

696
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: was talking like yeah, like what you can do? We

697
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: think we can get you into somewhere in the third

698
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: or fourth round. You can compliment so and so, and

699
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: you guys can do well together because there's a strategy

700
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: to what he was doing there. He was he's kind

701
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: of boxing you out from other teams and because there's

702
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: only a time limit that you can be in this room, right, Yes, yeah,

703
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy because he was trying to

704
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: not let me go to see different teams. And I'm like,

705
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do, but I was enjoying

706
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: the conversation like it's Kenny McCardell talking. But eventually, you know,

707
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: moved to two different different thing four or five different

708
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: teams that that that particular day, and you had the

709
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: big meetings where you're in a room like similar to this,

710
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: like I guess like an office office room, and you

711
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: have the head coach. I remember meeting with the Dot

712
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: Scout Boys and it was Jason Garrett and it was

713
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: the whole coaching staff clapped. No, he didn't clap. That's

714
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: his name as clapp one. No, he didn't clap. But

715
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: he grilled me and he asked me what was my

716
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: favorite play and right my favorite player on the board,

717
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 1: and asked me about myself, and you know, I didn't

718
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: get a crazy questions from what I can remember at

719
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: the combine, but it was like a surreal moment coming

720
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: from Division three, um, where you basically are paying to

721
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: go to school and you're paying to play right, and

722
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: then you're in this you're in this room with Jason

723
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: Garrett or you're in this room with um Um. I

724
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: was in the room with U. Who was the head

725
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: coach in Jacksonville that time? Del Rio? Jack Jack del

726
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: Rio and whoever was the head coach with since that

727
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: San Diego charges that time, I can't remember who the

728
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: head coach was twenty eleven back then? Was it it

729
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: might have been mccore. I can't remember either. Like going

730
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: in those rooms and sitting there against the whole staff

731
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: and then grilling you. It was a you can prepare

732
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: for it, but it's something once you get in there,

733
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: it's like wow, you know what I mean? And then

734
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: coming from D three, it's like I was kind of

735
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: stunned and kind of like trying to prove myself for

736
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: as a guy that's you know, a Cam Newton to

737
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: those guys they've been they seeing all types of guys

738
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: Old Jackson went to their school or whatever there, They're

739
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: used to walking in those terms with those guys. So

740
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: you okay, so you were a standout in D three,

741
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: but it's not like you were just some haycy walking

742
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: into I mean you you had an agent he yea.

743
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: The agency probably helped prepare you for a like did

744
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: you But even with all the preparation, how much of

745
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: a shock was it or had you been well prepared

746
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: by that? Though? I was. I was well prepared. But

747
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: it's just a shot, like I'm actually talking to and

748
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: so I'm actually in the same It's one thing to

749
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: hear it from your agency, but then a few weeks

750
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: later actually go through it, actually go through it something

751
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: it's something different. I think I handled myself well. Um.

752
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: Obviously those teams stayed interested throughout the process, but it

753
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: was just like surreal that I'm like, it was almost

754
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: a dream almost like you coming from Division three and

755
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: now you were at the comb and now you're with

756
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: some of the best athletes in the world, and it's

757
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: it's crazy. And if you can look back, that wasn't

758
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: just any combine. That wasn't just any draft class. You've

759
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: already mentioned Cam Newton J. J. Watt was in that one.

760
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: Tyrann Smith. I mean you can go down the one.

761
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: Julio Jones, A J. Green, Andy Dalton was the second round.

762
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: And not that he's up with their level, but I

763
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: mean there was name after name after Richard Sherman was

764
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: in that class. Yeah, yeah, I mean there were some

765
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: justin Houston, name after name after name. It was. That

766
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: was a talented, talented class. You wound up sticking in

767
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: the league seven eight years, you know. I mean that's

768
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: that's saying something. You know, a lot of a lot

769
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: of guys they last two three years, that's it. Some

770
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: of them don't even make it. Yeah, that's it's tough, man,

771
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because the same hunger you have coming

772
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: into the league is what you have to keep, yeah,

773
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: because that got you there, but you got to figure

774
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: out a way to keep you there, right, And people

775
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: always say, it doesn't matter how you get to the NFL,

776
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: it's about how you stay in the NFL. And that

777
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: gets harder and harder each and each and every year

778
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: because these guys are good. Yeah see last you know,

779
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: seven eight years, Like we're talking about the NFL. Why though,

780
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: did you start out at Mount Union? Why didn't. Why

781
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: weren't you out of Ohio State. I mean, surely Ohio

782
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: State could use a guy, or could you could have

783
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: a receiver that was was gonna wind up being seven

784
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: eight years in lad was pretty small as a small school.

785
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: He came from combo things. What was it? I think

786
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: it was the combo of things. Um, it's interesting. I

787
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: think I was a late bloomer. Yeah. I was like

788
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: five ten, five eleven, one fifty five soaken wet in

789
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,479
Speaker 1: high school played four sports baseball, basketball, football, and track,

790
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: and I was getting recruited by some max schools like

791
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: the Acorns, the Kent States, those type of schools. And

792
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: then once January hit my senior year, or actually when

793
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: December hit my senior year, after our season was over,

794
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: I really didn't hear for anybody. Everybody kind of just

795
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: fell off at the waiver, like I didn't hear it

796
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: fell off the clip. I didn't hear from no Division

797
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: one school, and I'm like, okay, what's going on? So

798
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: then then the one double Lights school hit me up

799
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: to call Youngstown State and they asked me to walk

800
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: on and I'm like, well, thank you for the offer,

801
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: but you know, I think you know I'm going to

802
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: have some offers coming soon, so I appreciate it. You know,

803
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: I'll keep that a gym Trustle at that point, was

804
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: it Jim Trustle? No, it was somebody else. It was

805
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: somebody else. And then um, January come nothing, February come nothing.

806
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: So I'm like devastated. I'm like, I let my family

807
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: down because I'm the oldest of six kids. I have

808
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: seven kids. I'm the oldest and six kids. Yeah, I'm like,

809
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: I let my family down. Just so many, so much emotion,

810
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: and I gave him my all. I was all stating track,

811
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: and I was all conference in baseball and football. I

812
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: was mentioned All States in football. I'm like, this is

813
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: what else can I do? And then, um, you know,

814
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: my dad took me across My dad was my head

815
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: coach in high school, and he took me across the

816
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: whole Middlewest. So I was in front of all these people,

817
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: all the combines, everything, and think just didn't work out

818
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: nothing for me. I just think I was a late bloomer.

819
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: So I en't up going to Mount Uni Division three.

820
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: I could have went to and I was a quarterback too,

821
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 1: so as a quarterback in my whole entire life, and

822
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: I could have went to a couple of D two schools.

823
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: You know, a D two scholarship is basically whatever you

824
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: don't get from financial way, they'll take care of the

825
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: rest of it. Right. So, but those schools that one

826
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: of me were terrible, like they just weren't good at

827
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: the time at the time, or we're good, weren't good teams,

828
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: or weren't good schools or just weren't good teams. The

829
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: school was decent, but this wasn't good, like a program

830
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: that makes sense either up and building program or a

831
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: program wasn't good, or they wanted me to switch positions

832
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: and then that at that time, like no, I'm a quarterback,

833
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: this is where I want to play boom. They wanted

834
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: me to play running back or I'm like running back

835
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: with the heck or defensive back and I'm like, nah,

836
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: nobody ever asked me play receiver, which is weird. So

837
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: I ended up going to Mountain Union. They showed them

838
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: most like they showed me where they showed me, I

839
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: guess the most love I felt most wanted there, And

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Speaker 1: I was always told with my dad, you want to

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Speaker 1: go someone that wants you. That's someone one that's going

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Speaker 1: to tolerate. They were winners too, and they were winners.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing that got They went to the national

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Speaker 1: championship a lot, and then my five years, they want

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Speaker 1: a national championship every single year. Yes, Mountain Union was

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Speaker 1: dominant and they beent dominant for a very very y

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Speaker 1: long time. Fifty seven and three is pretty sick. Five years,

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Speaker 1: five championship opportunities, that's just incredible. Great stuff there from

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Speaker 1: Cecil Shorts, Mount Union alum, and that's a great football

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Speaker 1: players there. Cecil might be the best one they've ever had,

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Speaker 1: so we appreciate him jumping on the show. Big thanks

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Speaker 1: to Drew for getting that to us so we could

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Speaker 1: share it with you as well. Go check out the

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Speaker 1: full interview with Cecil over at our podcast in live.

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Speaker 1: Go check it out, fun fun stuff. Big thanks to

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Speaker 1: Mark for stop by, you guys for listen. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you on Monday, and there's always go Texans