Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. Happy Creature.
Speaker 1: Read everybody Today on the show, It's a monster mash
Speaker 1: all the classic horror movie monsters brought to life through
Speaker 1: the very real world of science. We're looking at animals
Speaker 1: who can truly call themselves Dracula, real life Frankenstein's Monsters
Speaker 1: and Goes Sharks. Discover this and more as we answer
Speaker 1: the Agel question, can adopt lick you to death? So
Speaker 1: lest you think that evolutionary biologists are too stuffy to
Speaker 1: care about Halloween and spooky monsters, one of their favorite
Speaker 1: things to do is to name newly discovered creatures after
Speaker 1: horror film icons. As listeners of the show, you may
Speaker 1: know by now that evolutionary biology is better at concocting
Speaker 1: horror than West Craven, Hitchcock, and Stephen King combined. A
Speaker 1: lot of animals may get their spooky names after their
Speaker 1: appearance is alone. Take, for instance, the Halloween Crab, an
Speaker 1: adorable little terrestrial crab who lives in Central America who
Speaker 1: is orange and black and looks like a little Jack
Speaker 1: lantern pumpkin. There's also the Halloween snake, who lives in
Speaker 1: South and Central America. Who's got orange, white and black stripes.
Speaker 1: But don't pet this dangerous candy corn noodle. They're highly venomous.
Speaker 1: Some animals not only get a spooky name in Halloween colors,
Speaker 1: but their behaviors are truly bizarre or downright horrifying. Joining
Speaker 1: me today to celebrate Halloween by going on a haunted
Speaker 1: safari through the world of spooky species is comedy writer,
Speaker 1: co host of The Bechtel Cast, and proud owner of
Speaker 1: an animatronic twerking. Mommy Janey loved us credit for Las.
Speaker 1: How are you pretty good? I'm terrified already this there
Speaker 1: is yeah. Researching this like, I was like, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: not too scary, but there is one part where I
Speaker 1: got nightmares from it. They just look scary or they
Speaker 1: doing scary things as well. Oh you'll find out. So
Speaker 1: first I want to talk about the vampire squid. So,
Speaker 1: first of all, the vampire squid is not really a squid.
Speaker 1: It's also not really a vampire. So right, so probably
Speaker 1: wondering why is a vampire Let's go, well, it is
Speaker 1: a deep sea creature in the order vampiro morphidia. Wait, no,
Speaker 1: vampiro morphida. That's it. It's ancient form of cephalopod that
Speaker 1: arose before squid and octopus is diverged. So it lives
Speaker 1: in the deep sea at depths of up to three
Speaker 1: thousand feet. So it's it's in there. What is just
Speaker 1: leg numbers? Yes, it's kind of well, so squids can
Speaker 1: have different numbers of legs from octopuses, but there's also
Speaker 1: other morphological differences, like in their mantle and um. But
Speaker 1: so there used to be one but then they diverge. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I don't think the vampire morphia is the common ancestor,
Speaker 1: but it is sort of like a predecessor from that time.
Speaker 1: Scary uncle, scary uncle. That's a good yeah, yeah, uh so. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're in tropical and temperate oceans all over the world
Speaker 1: at these deep depths, deeply deeply in there, scary deep
Speaker 1: down in there. They're cute little guys who can reach
Speaker 1: up to a foot in length, and unlike typical squid,
Speaker 1: it has a rounder head and eight webbed tentacles. Uh
Speaker 1: and the underside of its tentacles are aligned with flesh spines. Uh.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the cape of a vampire
Speaker 1: or a nightmare umbrella. Oh, that's cute. It's the door here.
Speaker 1: Let me, I'm gonna show you. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: see a video of these guys because they are Wow,
Speaker 1: they are pretty adorable. Okay, little emil umbrellas. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's actually scarier than I thought it would be. Picture
Speaker 1: it's cute. It looks like a lump of flesh and
Speaker 1: look at it. Go wow. Oh it turns itself inside out, yes,
Speaker 1: indeed to reveal spiky sparks colored. Yeah, so it's kind
Speaker 1: of a fleshy red on the outside and a black
Speaker 1: on the inside, kind of like a reverse Dracula Cape's.
Speaker 1: It is very goss you know. Yes, it's super gonside.
Speaker 1: When threatened, it will dramatically turn itself inside out, wrapping
Speaker 1: itself in its cloak and revealing it's many spines underneath.
Speaker 1: It's such a drama. Queen Dracula squid. I am not
Speaker 1: a squid, but I am very spooky. Oh the poor god.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a little insecure squid. I know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like hiding inside of its cloak. Do
Speaker 1: you think like that's why Dracula is always hiding behind
Speaker 1: his cape? Is he kind of insecure about his teeth
Speaker 1: or something? I know. It's like it's either insecurity or
Speaker 1: a flair for the dramatic, right, it can sometimes be
Speaker 1: both at the same time. Dramatic cape swoosh, God, that
Speaker 1: was so that will hunt me? The fleshy blob in
Speaker 1: the sea. Just think of him as like as a
Speaker 1: theater kid, like who got his handle on the cape,
Speaker 1: And it's like doing cape swooshes, defining itself by creature
Speaker 1: of the doc. You're like, yeah, sure. So some of
Speaker 1: these squids are actually pure black, so they're very super
Speaker 1: extra goth. But they also have these bright blue eyes
Speaker 1: and they feed on sea garbage otherwise as marine snow.
Speaker 1: So you know, like when you look at like these
Speaker 1: deep sea cameras and you see this float, this floating
Speaker 1: detritus stuff in front of the camera, Yeah, exactly, that's
Speaker 1: marine snow. H It's organic junk that floats down the
Speaker 1: water column. It's man out of dead things, flakes, whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah you don't, yeah exactly wow. And then they're like
Speaker 1: good enough for me. See it's insecure yeah, yeah, secure garbage,
Speaker 1: like hold yourself to a higher standard. I guess I'll
Speaker 1: hide in my Mydracula cape and eat this garbage like
Speaker 1: you deserve more. Poor little emo cephalopods trash all day trash.
Speaker 1: And it eats by dangling a long thread like appendage
Speaker 1: called a filament from inside its cape, So it's like
Speaker 1: it spits out this little floss and then there's these
Speaker 1: tiny hairs on this filament that pick up the marine snow,
Speaker 1: the sea garbage. It just sucks it back in like
Speaker 1: a like a spaghetti littlekebob, Yeah, exactly, and then it
Speaker 1: uses its tentacles to like pull the marine snow off
Speaker 1: of its little thread thing, and then it forms a
Speaker 1: ball made out of mucus and the marine garbage. So
Speaker 1: it eats like garbage snotballs. Gross. Oh come on, I mean,
Speaker 1: who hasn't look basically today, I eat like a garbage Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I eat the equivalent does it snot garbage constantly?
Speaker 1: So you can't judge too harshly. God, he sounds like
Speaker 1: a weird middle schooler. That's like the vibes and getting
Speaker 1: from it's a weird middle schooler. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that would be like what you're talking about, middle schooler.
Speaker 1: It lives in a minimal oxygen zone and it has
Speaker 1: a very low metabolic rate compared to its squid and
Speaker 1: octopus relatives. So it moves very slowly. That's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't suck blood. It's only called the vampire school
Speaker 1: it because of its stage presence, because of its cave. Okay,
Speaker 1: uh so, not only does it have the habit of
Speaker 1: turning itself inside out and wrapping itself in its cloak
Speaker 1: to reveal all those spines underneath in defense, it has
Speaker 1: another technique, which is his glowing blue eyes, which are
Speaker 1: not actually realizes it has. Yeah, those were scary. Well,
Speaker 1: so those were his what you saw were his real eyes,
Speaker 1: but in complete darkness, there are these two blue glowing
Speaker 1: dots that look like eyeballs, but they're actually just these
Speaker 1: little spots on its mantle, more like more ornate, like
Speaker 1: just ornaments exactly. Well, the thought is that potentially they
Speaker 1: use those eye, those glowing bioluminous and eye dots to
Speaker 1: distract predators, and then if the predators bite them on
Speaker 1: the top of their head, it's fine, they'll they'll live.
Speaker 1: Oh they'll they'll be like, well, my head, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not an important It's just like a flushy part
Speaker 1: the head that's not as important. So just like different eyes, right,
Speaker 1: that's you know, I see there up here. I see
Speaker 1: that there's there's some sort of like weird joke to
Speaker 1: be made there. It's like, I, I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: see where evolution was going with that one. So it
Speaker 1: also has pockets of bioluminescent bacteria on the tips of
Speaker 1: its tentacles. That's what causes those eye spots to glow
Speaker 1: as well. So bioluminescence is often caused by bacteria. The
Speaker 1: it can trigger these bioluminescent spots at will. And it's
Speaker 1: also to me because like it has the eye spots
Speaker 1: and I haven't actually read any evidence for this. This
Speaker 1: is just my intuition. Take that for what it's worth,
Speaker 1: which is nothing. But the very tips of its tentacles
Speaker 1: have this bioluminescence. It's got these eye spots on the
Speaker 1: top of its head. I think it makes it look
Speaker 1: like a much bigger animal. That makes sense because when
Speaker 1: you think about you have, you're limiting the amount of
Speaker 1: information you're giving off. Where you have like a dot
Speaker 1: sort of like a mo cap suit where you have
Speaker 1: a dot on each tentacle, so you just have but
Speaker 1: it's on the extremities, like the eyespots are on the
Speaker 1: very top of the head and all the other glowy
Speaker 1: bits are on the very tips of its tentacles. So
Speaker 1: to me, it looks like it's sort of hinting at
Speaker 1: a much larger creature, right like your You wouldn't see
Speaker 1: those dots and guess that those are absolute extremities and
Speaker 1: that there'll be more around, right, I get that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. It can also so it doesn't have
Speaker 1: ink sacs, but it can eject its bioluminous and mucus
Speaker 1: from the tips of its tentacles. Extra yes, distracting predators
Speaker 1: with like a gooey light show of muca see rave fluid.
Speaker 1: I would be constantly getting in their personal space. Just
Speaker 1: it harmful, No, it's just distracting. Like if you were
Speaker 1: about to eat something and then it's suddenly like exploded
Speaker 1: glowing snot, I'd be a little distracted. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: huh are you good? Yeah, I leave you alone. Wow,
Speaker 1: it's everything about it. It's so cute. It's cute and
Speaker 1: goth and and sort of like dramatic. It's just such
Speaker 1: a drama queen look at and it's got those spikes
Speaker 1: that you see on its underside. Again, that's all. That's all. Bark,
Speaker 1: no bite. They're totally soft, completely soft, harmless. They just
Speaker 1: look menacing. And that's what they're hoping that you'll love
Speaker 1: the eyeballs, but are are really something else. The real
Speaker 1: those are the real ones. The ones on the side
Speaker 1: of its head are real. The ones at the top
Speaker 1: of its head are the fake ones. So I think
Speaker 1: if we're looking at it, these ones might well, it's
Speaker 1: hard to tell. Actually those might be real. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't they If those are fakes, those are very good fakes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the fakes don't look like real eyes like
Speaker 1: in the light. It's just that they glow so in
Speaker 1: the dark. In the dark eyes, yeah, it's sort of decoy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like if you use some glow in the dark paint
Speaker 1: to just draw on a bunch of extra eyes on yourself,
Speaker 1: that's a great costumer all eyes, right, And it's great.
Speaker 1: It's a day to night look because you can like
Speaker 1: be dressed in the day not have extra eyes, and
Speaker 1: then day to night, now you have a bunch of
Speaker 1: extra eyes. No one's going to know where to look exactly.
Speaker 1: So onto our next Dracula contender, I want to talk
Speaker 1: about Goodbye Goodbye Dracula Squid you are very melodramatic and adorable.
Speaker 1: Grow out of it. It's just a phase. So now
Speaker 1: the vampire finches, which are a little more serious in
Speaker 1: terms of they're not just cosplaying as Dracula. They're really
Speaker 1: mean there there. I would say they're a little bit
Speaker 1: kind of assholes, a little bit okay, And they're cute
Speaker 1: little finches that live on the Galapagos Islands. So typically
Speaker 1: they eat seeds, uh, you know, normal finchy nous cut
Speaker 1: so far, cute, so far. But when they run out
Speaker 1: of seeds during a drought, they need something else to
Speaker 1: say their hunger, so they attack boobies. No, okay, this
Speaker 1: show isn't going lewd. Uh. They attack blue footed boobies,
Speaker 1: which is a large sea bird with blue feet. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I I really taste that one. It's like that is
Speaker 1: a hard turn from the middle. Still squid the boobe flare,
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so it goes after it, which is it's
Speaker 1: larger than them, much larger. So the finches about what
Speaker 1: would I would say, like a orange cute clementine, you know,
Speaker 1: little tiny, little little things, and the boobies are bigger.
Speaker 1: They're about i'd say about like three ft Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're much, but they're they're like a large seagull. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when the booby is resting in its nest, the vampire
Speaker 1: finch pecks at the boobie's flesh. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: get over the flesh of the bo the flush of
Speaker 1: the booby, the soft flesh of the booby, until it
Speaker 1: starts to bleed. Then a small crowd of finches will
Speaker 1: gather around the wounded booby and start start drinking the
Speaker 1: boobies blood. Right, isn't that the saddest thing. The finches
Speaker 1: are careful to be as surgical as possible so as
Speaker 1: not to aggravate the booby so that it can continue
Speaker 1: to lap up its blood. And there's a video of it,
Speaker 1: and they're like peck and add swings and then the
Speaker 1: boobies kind of tries to like flap him off with
Speaker 1: his wings. But then they're like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll be more gentle this time. But they're sucking it's blood. Right,
Speaker 1: Oh geez. Okay, so these these are like little tiny killers.
Speaker 1: I would see a movie about this. Killer finches. Klor
Speaker 1: finches cute by day, but when nightfalls, they drink blood
Speaker 1: from your booby this Christmas. This does seem very this
Speaker 1: does seem very contemporary horror, you know, very literal take
Speaker 1: on the horror genre where it's like here's a sexy lady,
Speaker 1: but she's in danger. But you know, if you really
Speaker 1: cut to the chase, it's like, here's some boobies. They're
Speaker 1: in danger. But in this case, protect your boobies. In
Speaker 1: this case, the boobies are actual birds. But you know,
Speaker 1: you get the idea, but like you know, symbolically, symbolically
Speaker 1: and they stand there there a synectic key for the boobs.
Speaker 1: I don't know, the poor the poor blue footed babies.
Speaker 1: It's so sad, Like do their friends just bail? It
Speaker 1: seems like it would be I think they're all they
Speaker 1: all get injured that it sounds like it would be
Speaker 1: easy to kick these finches assies. Well that's the thing,
Speaker 1: is they they One of the theories why the boobies
Speaker 1: don't just kick their asses is that this behavior may
Speaker 1: have started as a symbiotic parasite eating where the finch
Speaker 1: would go on the booby, eat the little bugs off
Speaker 1: the booby, you know, mutually beneficial. But then probably they
Speaker 1: kind of learned it's a lot easier to just like,
Speaker 1: you know, stab him and drink a little savages. They're
Speaker 1: they're a little stinkers. Yeah. And also yeah, like they
Speaker 1: really do try to minimize the amount of discomfort that
Speaker 1: they're putting the booby through so that they don't ruffle
Speaker 1: its feathers um, and they don't they don't really hurt,
Speaker 1: like they don't well, I mean, I'm sure they hurt
Speaker 1: the boobies, but they don't kill the It doesn't kill
Speaker 1: the booby. It's a booby's clot. And then they're okay, yes,
Speaker 1: the boobies survive, and but it's probably really annoying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, these little stinkers keep coming to my house
Speaker 1: and cutting my legs out for food. Oh, they'll also
Speaker 1: steal and eat eggs just because at their dicks they're real,
Speaker 1: they're real little. I think the weekends they need to
Speaker 1: the boobies need to beef up their security detail. It
Speaker 1: felt like they're really like being taken for a ride
Speaker 1: here kind of literally. Yeah, I mean it's like it's
Speaker 1: like if you know, like babies were stealing from us
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, it can't there's baby you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you there's enough babies though honestly, you don't.
Speaker 1: Don't think about babies like one on one with the
Speaker 1: little baby. Yeah, but like when it's you've you've found
Speaker 1: several babies that are like biting you. Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: other adults are like, well, you're not gonna die. Right,
Speaker 1: Just come on to kind of flip the script. Now,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about Dracula ants, okay, which I
Speaker 1: just love. I love the evolutionary biologists. I just like,
Speaker 1: you're a Dracula, You're a vampire. Another Dracula, gonna mix
Speaker 1: it up? I know, I p say that's true. Like,
Speaker 1: can't we get like an Edward like like the Edward
Speaker 1: ance Edward? What's another vampire? Like an Edward? Call it?
Speaker 1: That's what I meant. Okay, yeah, yeah the Twilight Ants?
Speaker 1: Are there any other vampires? I'm pretty sure it's just
Speaker 1: Dracula and Paler was the historical figure, right, oh nose
Speaker 1: for all too, yes for all to those actually would
Speaker 1: be a good name. And Rice and Rice is a
Speaker 1: vampire and ri ant right Antrice? Oh my godfact, Jamie, Jamie,
Speaker 1: you should be in charge of naming animals, thank you.
Speaker 1: Accept So these ant rices are found in the African
Speaker 1: Asian and Australian tropics. So an interesting little kind of
Speaker 1: evolutionary thing here is that the adult ants can't process food,
Speaker 1: which seems like a little bit of an interesting quirk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like a detriment, right. Um. So they have
Speaker 1: a good solution though, which is that they suck the
Speaker 1: blood of infants, you know what, creative. So they specifically larva,
Speaker 1: so their own their own babies, uh yeah, in the family.
Speaker 1: So the adults will go out and hunt prey and
Speaker 1: then they bring it back to the colony. Then they
Speaker 1: feed the prey to the larva and there their praise.
Speaker 1: Like other insects and small things. Yeah, the larva can
Speaker 1: eat and process the prey and the adults, I mean,
Speaker 1: they still are living creatures and they need nourishments. So
Speaker 1: they'll chew a little pinhole in the larva and suck
Speaker 1: it's blood. Um, And insects blood is called is hemolymph
Speaker 1: um basically insect blood. Yeah, bud blood, bud goo and
Speaker 1: this is uh. I saw one article where they called
Speaker 1: it a communal stomach or social stomach. Gross, just a
Speaker 1: social stomach flopping its way around town talking about talking
Speaker 1: about other stomachs. This does sound sound like, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: sounds more like a family family drama shoe. It's like
Speaker 1: a show succession, like all these rich people suck at
Speaker 1: each other's blood metaphorically draining the life from the youth
Speaker 1: in order to live longer. Calling you out, boomer, you're
Speaker 1: suing us dry here. Uh, the it's called it's a
Speaker 1: cannibalism though that doesn't actually kill or harm the larva,
Speaker 1: and it helps the success of the colony. So it's
Speaker 1: it's called quote non destructive parental cannibalism, which you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like therapists take issue with that. Kind of
Speaker 1: does sound like some trauma. But then I guess if
Speaker 1: you think about like I don't know, if you think
Speaker 1: about it, like reverse breast milk, Yeah, who is sucking
Speaker 1: blood right, Like you're like technically draining m Maybe this
Speaker 1: doesn't work, we're technically sorted. Well, No, it is reverse
Speaker 1: breast milk in a way because with babies they can't
Speaker 1: process solid food. We eat the solid food. We you know,
Speaker 1: leak fluid out of our chest parts into the baby
Speaker 1: and they receive nourishment in these in these dracula ants,
Speaker 1: the babies eat the food and then the adults suck
Speaker 1: their blood. It's the same thing. Well, but the babies
Speaker 1: get but you're still putting food on the baby because
Speaker 1: you're going out and hunting, you know, providing them with
Speaker 1: the food. So you're feeding the baby. You just also
Speaker 1: suck the baby's blood. It's just a cultural difference really.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you can't really judge these ants
Speaker 1: until you've walked a mile in there. Yeah. Um, so
Speaker 1: the workers will also regurgitate this baby blood into their
Speaker 1: queen's mouth. Oh see, that's weird. It's at you know,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. So, like I said before, the larva are
Speaker 1: unharmed except for a bunch of holes and scars in
Speaker 1: their bodies, which you know, all the adults have those
Speaker 1: two from when they were baby, because I think the
Speaker 1: larva as it as it pupates in um morphs into
Speaker 1: the adult form probably I guess heals up sheds it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So it's just emotional scars, yeah, exactly, and exactly, which
Speaker 1: who cares about emotional shows. We're all barfin in the
Speaker 1: mouth of the queen at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: That's so profound. That cuts me deep. Though the adults
Speaker 1: can't eat solid food, they're extremely good hunters. As of
Speaker 1: the dracula ants, mandibles are the fastest known moving body
Speaker 1: part in the animal kingdom. They can snap their jaws
Speaker 1: at two hundred miles per hour, which is five thousand
Speaker 1: times faster than blinking. Ah. This is fast enough to
Speaker 1: generate force that stuns and kills their prey. Uh so,
Speaker 1: listeners of the show or maybe just people generally interested
Speaker 1: in animals, and you know that mantis shrimp are also
Speaker 1: really fast at snapping their claws. Mantis shrimp can snap
Speaker 1: their closet about twenty three ms per second, whereas the
Speaker 1: dracula ants can snap their mandibles at ninety per second.
Speaker 1: So it's way faster than the mantis shrimp. Now, I
Speaker 1: don't know if it generates more forced than the mantis
Speaker 1: shrimp because there they're the mandible. The way the mandible
Speaker 1: snap are very different, So that mantas shrimp has sort
Speaker 1: of a pocket and like hammer situation, the dracula ant
Speaker 1: has sort of snaps its mandibles like it's snapping its fingers,
Speaker 1: where it rubs one mandible against the other and it
Speaker 1: like kind of creates a force against each other and
Speaker 1: then it slides past it and releases like when you're
Speaker 1: snapping your fingers same basically the same kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh it's uh, it's still incredibly devastating to
Speaker 1: the little prey items that are in their path. So
Speaker 1: I mean getting back to the baby blood, is a
Speaker 1: baby blood acting as some sort of hyper stimulants, like mainline,
Speaker 1: like baby blood will make you really get your mandibles
Speaker 1: all quick. Well, you know there's no evidence for it,
Speaker 1: but I almost feel like I do love the image
Speaker 1: of a bunch of these ants like getting together and
Speaker 1: being like there's nothing The best part of waking up
Speaker 1: is baby blood. Your cup really put some pep in
Speaker 1: their step. It gets right in the day like a
Speaker 1: number one mom cup and then it's just a bunch
Speaker 1: of baby blood in her own baby's blood. So, speaking
Speaker 1: of blood and things and people drinking blood and all
Speaker 1: that happening, um, I want to tell a personal story
Speaker 1: about my dog licking my own blood. So my dog
Speaker 1: likes to lick me. It's kind of annoying because she'll
Speaker 1: like lick the same spot over and over until snub
Speaker 1: and it's kind of painful and gross and annoying, but
Speaker 1: right exactly, but she's so cute. And then also when
Speaker 1: I tried to move her. She starts growling at me
Speaker 1: with and she was really she was like licking my shoulder.
Speaker 1: I was really into it, was like, huh, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: And then I look over and just pouring blood. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. So apparently I had like a little cut
Speaker 1: or blemish there that she had started licking because it
Speaker 1: was maybe bleeding a little bit. But here's the thing is,
Speaker 1: she kept looking at like opening up the wound war
Speaker 1: so it started to just bleed and then it's it
Speaker 1: looked like a lot more blood than it was because
Speaker 1: I guess it was mixing with her salivor's like it
Speaker 1: around like oh god, oh my god. And I was wondering.
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, she drink like drinking my blood.
Speaker 1: But to her, Yeah, So I think that. So, dogs
Speaker 1: and other social animal mammals will often lick each other's wounds,
Speaker 1: and wound licking is not technically a form of parasitism
Speaker 1: because it is a supposedly mutually beneficial activity, like rats
Speaker 1: who lick each other's wounds will have been found to
Speaker 1: increase the rate of wound healing. Of course, a dog
Speaker 1: licking your wounds is not necessarily good if anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: seems like it could make the matter worse. In fact,
Speaker 1: it does sometimes to the really horrible extent. Uh So
Speaker 1: sometimes if you're extremely unlucky, if a dog licks you
Speaker 1: too much and you get dogs aliva on you, you
Speaker 1: may have to have your limbs amputa. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be alarmist because you have like a one in
Speaker 1: a million chance of this happening. So don't like throw
Speaker 1: your dog out off of your couch, but your dog
Speaker 1: in the trash. Don't put your dog in the trash um.
Speaker 1: But this does occasionally happen. So a woman had to
Speaker 1: get her limbs partially amputated after getting an infection from
Speaker 1: bacteria present in dog saliva. As I say, had like
Speaker 1: a one million chance of this happening, and she was
Speaker 1: a winner, poor woman. So she developed gangreen in necrosis
Speaker 1: in her arms and legs. Um so for that, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: so um. She they weren't all completely amputated, but partially amputated.
Speaker 1: Her immune system went crazy in response to this bacteria
Speaker 1: found in the dog saliva, and it caused these blood
Speaker 1: clots that killed off the tissue in her limbs and
Speaker 1: so they couldn't save it. So they had to do
Speaker 1: a partial amputation. Wow, But you know, if they hadn't
Speaker 1: caught it in time, she would have died. So technically
Speaker 1: your dog can lick you to death, does it? I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to I'm like, I don't know. If I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know how. My dog has some empathy, but
Speaker 1: not as much as your average dog, right right, So
Speaker 1: it's like, did they I wonder if they think that
Speaker 1: they're helping, even if they may be giving you gangreen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think they ever intend to give you gang green.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that that you can sort of
Speaker 1: like scratch off. Not malicious, definitely not malicious. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they know whether they're helping. I would assume
Speaker 1: I do. Personally, I do think dogs have some empathy
Speaker 1: for if you can call it that, it's at least affection,
Speaker 1: at least like a positive emotion connected. So I think
Speaker 1: that when they lick a wound or they lick you,
Speaker 1: I think it's a social activity and they feel gratified
Speaker 1: doing it. Probably helps that our skin is salty and tasty,
Speaker 1: probably helps that our blood taste delicious. Uh, But I
Speaker 1: do think it is a pro social behavior, and I
Speaker 1: would if I had to bet money on it. I
Speaker 1: would think that they feel not like they're getting away
Speaker 1: with something, but that they're doing something positive because they'll
Speaker 1: like lick each other and it's a positive thing. So
Speaker 1: it's it's the golden rule, like my friends, like others,
Speaker 1: as you would have your self licked. That makes sense. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: so my dog isn't like actively trying to kill me.
Speaker 1: He just might do it by mistake. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know your dog, but you know I would. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a nightmare. He's going to hell. So your dog
Speaker 1: can accidentally look you to death. But it's typically out
Speaker 1: of misguided love rather than a lust for blood. But
Speaker 1: can animals get a taste of human blood and crave seconds.
Speaker 1: Some animal conservationists caution that when certain predators like big cats,
Speaker 1: get a taste of human blood, once they pop, they
Speaker 1: just can't stop. And it turns out it's because our
Speaker 1: blood is extra delicious. Dr maheshawar to Call, a biodiversity
Speaker 1: expert in the Ministry of Forests and Environment in Nepal,
Speaker 1: warns that leopards who get a sample of human blood
Speaker 1: may never want to go back to the crumbing blood
Speaker 1: they've got it. Home quote since human blo it has
Speaker 1: more salt than animal blood. Once wild animals get the
Speaker 1: taste of salty blood that they do not like the
Speaker 1: other animals. Like dear Dr de Call says, Apparently we're
Speaker 1: season to perfection. The most notorious serial killer kitties where
Speaker 1: the savo lion man eaters of who let's be fair,
Speaker 1: would probably eat people of any gender. These lions eight
Speaker 1: construction workers on a railroad in Kenya and had an
Speaker 1: estimated thirty five victims. According to one worker's diary quote bones, flesh, skin,
Speaker 1: and blood. They devoured all and left not a trace
Speaker 1: behind them. There's a theory that these lions preferred human
Speaker 1: flesh as they had some dental problems making it difficult
Speaker 1: to hunt less soft creatures. But hey, we have salty,
Speaker 1: delicious blood too, So are these big cats serial killers
Speaker 1: or food snobs? When we return, we're going to look
Speaker 1: at another classic movie monster Frankenstein. Could a real life
Speaker 1: Frankenstein exists and we'll be looking at some horrifying scientific
Speaker 1: experiments conducted in the nineteen forties. Imagine that you've been
Speaker 1: kidnapped by some creepy Soviet era scientists. Cool they lay
Speaker 1: you on an operating table and put you under anesthesia. Great, awesome.
Speaker 1: You lose consciousness for what seems like only a minute.
Speaker 1: You awake, relieved you're not dead. You're surrounded by blurry images,
Speaker 1: the smell of antiseptic, and a weird churning sound. A
Speaker 1: bright light shines in your eyes and you blink. You
Speaker 1: hear the excited voices of the scientists. Then someone coax
Speaker 1: you in the eye. You try to lift your arm
Speaker 1: to bat them away. When you realize you can't feel
Speaker 1: your arm or the rest of your body, You look
Speaker 1: down and are horrified to see that instead of your body,
Speaker 1: there's a mass of tubes and red fluid and what
Speaker 1: looks like a vat of churning blood. So, Jamie, this
Speaker 1: is one of the more disturbing things that I'll talk
Speaker 1: about on the podcast because it involves humans being assholes.
Speaker 1: This is yeah, the worst, Okay, So I feel warmed up.
Speaker 1: We started with the cute stuff, the cute and have
Speaker 1: your happy space beat the Dracula squid. I will go
Speaker 1: back into my theater squid. If I get scared, I'll
Speaker 1: just hide myself in my spiky cape. Yeah, yeah, your
Speaker 1: mental spiky cape. So there's a Soviet film, which is
Speaker 1: apparently a documentary called Experiments in the Revival of Organisms,
Speaker 1: showcasing experiments by Soviet scientists Sergey S. Bruconico. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a that's a Russian name. Uh. If you're a dog lover,
Speaker 1: you may want to skip ahead, which is also a
Speaker 1: horrible pun, as you'll find out. Yes, but yeah, it
Speaker 1: is genuine. This upset me. I have a pretty strong
Speaker 1: constitution that comes to creepy things. Not like I'm a
Speaker 1: dog owner. I'm I have a little dog. And when
Speaker 1: I was like reading through this, I was just imagining
Speaker 1: this happening to my dog. I was just like, this
Speaker 1: is awful, this is horrifying. So it's a little you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my chance. Yeah, yeah, I mean Jamie
Speaker 1: doesn't have a choice, but you the listeners. Um so
Speaker 1: uh it's this old timey medical film. Let me show
Speaker 1: it to you. Um, Okay. At least it's black and white,
Speaker 1: so it feels less like it's happening to send me
Speaker 1: the dog. It's got creepy music. Great, uh, and so
Speaker 1: here's it starts out with a heart that they claim
Speaker 1: is uh and you hear this like creepy detached narrator
Speaker 1: the whole time. Yeah, in this part, they have what
Speaker 1: they claim as a dog's heart attached to a sort
Speaker 1: of artificial pumping mechanism that's pumping blood in and out
Speaker 1: of the heart and keeping it beating. Um, so they
Speaker 1: show they show some footage of the heartbeating. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: giant thing pumping blood into it. It's all extremely terrible. Boy.
Speaker 1: And then um, and that's not the worst part. They
Speaker 1: also show a pair of lungs being quote unquote brought
Speaker 1: back to life by this artificial pump that's pumping in blood.
Speaker 1: That scene in Midsummer is there what happens, I guess
Speaker 1: spoilers is not relevant to the plot. They're like one
Speaker 1: of the guys they kill and they cut him open
Speaker 1: and hang him up like style, and then his lungs
Speaker 1: are still. You're like, oh no, oh, yeah, they call
Speaker 1: like a death eagle or something. Yeah, that's awful. I'm
Speaker 1: scary Swedish stuff. This is there's a cartoon. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it gets worse than a cartoon. But as you can
Speaker 1: see by the diagram, it's a dog's head attached to
Speaker 1: a machine and the issue the machine is called an
Speaker 1: autoject or that pumps oxygenated blood into the head and
Speaker 1: allows the used blood to pump out of the head,
Speaker 1: and so it's allegedly functioning as an artificial heart. And
Speaker 1: I keep saying allegedly. I'm going to talk about whether
Speaker 1: or not this video is actually real and just a bit,
Speaker 1: I know, right, So they show an actual video of
Speaker 1: of a dog head reacting to sounds, reacting to stimuli.
Speaker 1: So they the eyes twitched when being poked, the nose
Speaker 1: twitches when being tickled with a feather. The dog licks
Speaker 1: its mouth when citric acid is placed on its lip,
Speaker 1: and citric as it is just like the stuff in
Speaker 1: like lemons and stuff. It's okay, we're kind of going
Speaker 1: a little bit yeah, yeah, and you can see you
Speaker 1: can see it licking its lips and sort of reacting
Speaker 1: like a dog sort of normally would um right, well,
Speaker 1: Soviet Russia, like we've gotta now, do we, although I
Speaker 1: got to say America is not much better, as we'll
Speaker 1: find out in a little bit for sure. So uh.
Speaker 1: Later in the film, a dog is drained of all
Speaker 1: of its blood and is allegedly brought back to life
Speaker 1: by the auto jector, and the film claims it goes
Speaker 1: on to live a normal life. So we've gone through
Speaker 1: it does so we've gone through all the horror of
Speaker 1: this like artificial blood pump supposedly bringing dogs back to life.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the veracity of the film. This
Speaker 1: was actually really hard for me to find out. I
Speaker 1: would love if like, save you're a listener and like
Speaker 1: this is your field of study and you know everything
Speaker 1: about this film, Like, please get in touch with me,
Speaker 1: because I really want someone to just tell me, no,
Speaker 1: it's not real. Um. So here's the issue. The film
Speaker 1: never shows like the whole experiment, just like the doghead.
Speaker 1: You can't even really see the stuff hooked up to it. Um.
Speaker 1: It's highly possible that they just sedated a dog, stuck
Speaker 1: its head through a whole in the table, and then
Speaker 1: started doing this stuff. Um, you know, doing all these reactions.
Speaker 1: But there is so the film itself could be kind
Speaker 1: of like fake ish. But there are scientists who went
Speaker 1: and observed the experiment and they claimed that it was real. However,
Speaker 1: far from the doghead surviving hours as the film claimed, uh,
Speaker 1: the dog had only survived a minute or two. Um,
Speaker 1: which makes more sense, to make more sense, and it
Speaker 1: also is more brutal somehow if they're like, look, we
Speaker 1: can bring a dog back to life for a minute
Speaker 1: for no reason. Yeah, Well, to me, actually having it
Speaker 1: live for hours is worse because it's like, at least
Speaker 1: for a minute, maybe it doesn't have enough time to
Speaker 1: register what's going on, really feeling Yeah, good lord. And
Speaker 1: then furthermore, witnesses to the experiment where the dog was
Speaker 1: there's a dog that was exanguinated, which means all of
Speaker 1: its blood was drained out and then brought back to
Speaker 1: life with this auto ject or. Rejector is also a
Speaker 1: very villainous. It's a terrible name for a thing, right,
Speaker 1: and it's like, it's so just let me describe it,
Speaker 1: just in case it's kind of unclear. It's like a
Speaker 1: vat of blood that gets artificially oxygenated, gets pumped into
Speaker 1: the poor creature's head, and then the deoxygenated blood gets
Speaker 1: pumped out. So it's supposedly working like a real heartwood,
Speaker 1: but horrible in every possible conceivable way. It does look
Speaker 1: like a movie problem. It does, which also makes me
Speaker 1: slightly suspicious it is. But you know, there are there
Speaker 1: are witnesses who claimed that this is sort of you know,
Speaker 1: at least has some truth to it. So witnesses to
Speaker 1: the experiment where the dog was drained of its blood
Speaker 1: and brought back to life claim that the dog had
Speaker 1: severe brain damage and didn't live for more than a
Speaker 1: couple of days, which again a normal life, right exactly.
Speaker 1: It's I mean, that's the thing is I would really
Speaker 1: hope the film is like a d percent fall. I
Speaker 1: have a feeling it's sort of mixing creative cinematography with
Speaker 1: maybe some realish results, but then like vastly out of proportion,
Speaker 1: like very overblown results, like you bring a dog head
Speaker 1: back for a minute in a terrible way, like yeah, congratulations,
Speaker 1: right exactly. Uh yeah, So there are eyewitnesses accounts of
Speaker 1: doctor Bruko Nico being able to keep a doghead alive
Speaker 1: for at least brief periods of time, which is horrible,
Speaker 1: And so there are other experiences that have shown that
Speaker 1: this kind of very maccab science is possible, even though
Speaker 1: it's still like why please don't I think the intention
Speaker 1: isn't just to be insane, but I think it's too
Speaker 1: Oh here, we could save people's lives by bringing them
Speaker 1: back to life in this way from right, that makes
Speaker 1: so you know, maybe not cartoonish villain, but also awful,
Speaker 1: terrible stuff going on here. Also like even worse that
Speaker 1: they're like it sounds like falsely reporting the results. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could bring someone back to life. It would be
Speaker 1: for a very short time and there would be an
Speaker 1: immense pain. But right, they could do it. Their life
Speaker 1: would be confused, agony, but hey, right, it's like Jesus.
Speaker 1: So the US, US of America, the United the USA
Speaker 1: of America heard of it, Yes, decided that it, being
Speaker 1: the Cold War, we have to get in on this horrifying,
Speaker 1: dog brutalizing action. So in I know, right. In nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty five, neurosurgeon Robert J. White conducted some really creepy experiments.
Speaker 1: He transplanted the brains of dogs into the necks of
Speaker 1: other dogs, which you know, of course, sure why not
Speaker 1: cool right uh, and showed e G activity in the brains,
Speaker 1: indicating that they were alive to whatever extent you could imagine.
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, like you don't know if
Speaker 1: they're conscious, you don't not. It's like dog in a
Speaker 1: neck now, probably not getting any sensory information. That's horrible. Um,
Speaker 1: And so that wasn't enough existential horror. To satisfy Dr
Speaker 1: White invent, he transplanted the head of a reesus monkey
Speaker 1: onto another monkey's body. The monkey could supposedly see here
Speaker 1: and taste things, or at least reacted as if it did,
Speaker 1: though it was paralyzed and only lived for about a
Speaker 1: week of what I imagine was just pure horror. Just
Speaker 1: tear it like the worst week of your second life, right, exactly? God,
Speaker 1: I mean, so, I don't want to you know this,
Speaker 1: this show is a very pro science podcast. I don't
Speaker 1: want to get down on I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of really important scientific research that involves animals that help
Speaker 1: um pure disease and stuff. I feel like the Saint
Speaker 1: it chief. No, this feels a little overly ambitious and
Speaker 1: clearly has failed a number of feels flamboyant in a way,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna decapitate a monkey and so it's head
Speaker 1: onto another monkey. It's like, is that really necessary? And
Speaker 1: is that actually? Is that the best use of your Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly that, And it's that the best way to science?
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that it is. It feels
Speaker 1: like it feels I'll say it's a bit much. It's
Speaker 1: a bit much um, speaking of a bitch month much
Speaker 1: you uh may have heard of this guy, Sergio Cannevero,
Speaker 1: who is or Canevero, who is an Italian neurosurgeon who
Speaker 1: claims he is getting close to be able to do
Speaker 1: human head transplants. Oh no, I didn't know that. So
Speaker 1: here's the problem with head transplantation. I mean, actually there's
Speaker 1: a few problems, Okay, So primarily it's the problem with
Speaker 1: any kind of uh organ transplantation, which is the donor
Speaker 1: body or head may reject the donor body or head.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you would cut. Would you call
Speaker 1: it the donor head or the donor body because the
Speaker 1: head is sort of it feels like where you would
Speaker 1: think donor probably, yeah, I guess. I mean the body
Speaker 1: is bigger, so you think of it as being a
Speaker 1: donor head, but the head is you. I guess you're
Speaker 1: getting another person's brain. Well, but then that would be you.
Speaker 1: I'm confused. Are they trying to bring the body back
Speaker 1: to everything? You're trying to bring the head back to life, right, right?
Speaker 1: So that's so it would be a donor body, right,
Speaker 1: a body transplant really, because you're you're the head and
Speaker 1: you get a new body Uh, that sounds like a
Speaker 1: bad dream. Yeah, it's not. It's not to me. It's
Speaker 1: not a group. Well, let me talk about the problem.
Speaker 1: So you there could be rejection of the body or
Speaker 1: head and or both, because that's a big problem with
Speaker 1: donating organs, and often people have to be on medications
Speaker 1: that help the like kind of calmed down the immune
Speaker 1: system for the rest of their lives and they get
Speaker 1: a donor organ. So with a head and a body
Speaker 1: seems big step, high us, high us. The second problem
Speaker 1: is that this is all terrible and horrifying and Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: this poor dogs and monkeys. I just anyways, Um, but no,
Speaker 1: So the real second problem is that mending the spinal
Speaker 1: cord between the severed head and the body is not
Speaker 1: something we can do just yet. Um. As you can imagine,
Speaker 1: like if you tried to transplant a human head onto
Speaker 1: a donor body, you probably get a result pretty similar
Speaker 1: to that poor poor reeseless monkey where you're paralyzed and
Speaker 1: only live about a week. And it's probably probably and
Speaker 1: it's you know, not to say that people with paralysis
Speaker 1: can lead very happy lives, but I think it's significantly
Speaker 1: different when it's just you're being brought back to life
Speaker 1: under what we can assume as vastly different circumstances. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: No one asked for that. I don't know. I mean
Speaker 1: some people might mean, like you know something certain movie moguls.
Speaker 1: Well that's the think. Isn't that like that, even if
Speaker 1: the people can find a way to make that process work,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it just be used to bring back like assholes? Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's skip it, asshole transplant scaler, Like, let's bring
Speaker 1: assholes of the past back to life because they had
Speaker 1: enough ego to preserve brothers back like right, like we do,
Speaker 1: thank you? Wow? Finally yeah, because only do you insanely
Speaker 1: rich would be able to do this. Insanely rich are
Speaker 1: often extremely afraid of death. So it's it's, you know,
Speaker 1: like some Peter Teal stuff. Peter Teal would protect his
Speaker 1: own head totally. Elon musk. He's going to freeze your
Speaker 1: body replace his body with like he's yeah, he's too
Speaker 1: narcissistic to even accept a donor. Body's like, no, grow
Speaker 1: me a new one. I want a fresh body. He'll
Speaker 1: get a clone donor. I mean, I'm sure there's just
Speaker 1: like a big storage facility full of clone mustle just
Speaker 1: ready to go horrible. So here's the problem with mending
Speaker 1: the spinal cord is that is very difficult and hard
Speaker 1: to do also, so we're getting better at spinal repair
Speaker 1: in extremely skilled spinal surgeons at the Lady Cilento Children's
Speaker 1: Hospital in Brisbane, Australia, repaired to Toddler's spine that had
Speaker 1: been internally decapitated. Okay, which sounds bad. I know this
Speaker 1: sounds bad, but this is slightly less alarmingly called a
Speaker 1: C one C two vertebra dislocation. Slightly more alarmingly, it
Speaker 1: has a sixty eight percent fatality rate. So basically, this
Speaker 1: poor little kid's school had become detached from the rest
Speaker 1: of his spine. Now I wouldn't be talking about this
Speaker 1: unless the kids survived, and the kid did survive and
Speaker 1: full recovery. Very so happy ending. Don't want to creep
Speaker 1: you in spend su um. So after surgery, like I said,
Speaker 1: Toddler could walk within three weeks, which is incredible. So
Speaker 1: the key was that the spinal cord itself, which contains
Speaker 1: all your bundle of nerves going from your brain to
Speaker 1: the rest of your body, it hadn't been severed, so
Speaker 1: it was just the vertebrae that had become broken and dislocated,
Speaker 1: so which still it's an extremely tricky thing to reattach
Speaker 1: the vertebrae prevent there from being any any damage to
Speaker 1: the spinal cords. So they were able to mend the spine,
Speaker 1: prevent the spinal cord from becoming damage and the little
Speaker 1: kid made a full recovery, which is great. And there's
Speaker 1: been obviously a lot of research into mending spinal cords
Speaker 1: or regrowing spinal cords, but it's a very new science, uh,
Speaker 1: and it's it's an exciting path of research because obviously
Speaker 1: this would be revolutionary for people who have paralysis and
Speaker 1: nerve damage. And it's obviously it would open up a
Speaker 1: whole new field of medicine. But if we have this
Speaker 1: technology now to do head like if we could do
Speaker 1: a head transplant, we could certainly do much more in
Speaker 1: terms of healing paralysis, one step at a time. Right. However,
Speaker 1: Dr Canavero claims that mending spinal cord damage is very
Speaker 1: different from a head transplant because you can precisely and
Speaker 1: surgically decapitate someone, making reattachment easier um And he demonstrated
Speaker 1: this at a ted X talk about uh yeah, with
Speaker 1: bananas and spaghetti of course. So he he's like, he
Speaker 1: holds a banana and he's like, so, first I got
Speaker 1: to make a disclaimer. I'm skeptical of this guy. I'm
Speaker 1: coming from a place of skepticism. Yeah, I can't imagine why.
Speaker 1: So he holds a banana. He's like, this is like
Speaker 1: a spinal cord that's gone through damage through trump and
Speaker 1: then he squishes it and throws it on the ground,
Speaker 1: which accurate scientific model of a spinal cord goes through
Speaker 1: when it's physically damaged. Then he takes a banana and
Speaker 1: he's like, this is what would happen if you surgically
Speaker 1: decapitate somebody, And he like slices it with a knife
Speaker 1: and he's and then he starts poking the halves together.
Speaker 1: It was like, see this can be repaired. Checks out right? Yeah.
Speaker 1: He also he also has this cool way of demonstrating
Speaker 1: how he would reattach the spinal cord by sticking a
Speaker 1: bunch of spaghettis, dry spaghettis and a banana and sticking
Speaker 1: them into another banana. This is like obsurd. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't trust this man. I mean what's cool is that
Speaker 1: we share a lot of animatomical features with the banana. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it really when you cut me open,
Speaker 1: I bleed spaghetti. That's why my dog was looking. She
Speaker 1: loves spaghetti. She's probably watched this guy's ted talk and
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, she bleeds spaghetti. Wow. There.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: I mean all wrong. I did study psychology, but I'm
Speaker 1: not a neuroscientist. However, my layman's opinion is that spinal
Speaker 1: nerves aren't really exactly like uncooked spaghetti. I mean I
Speaker 1: think that that is a fair inference to make. Yes, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: someone tell this man with the PhD that I mean,
Speaker 1: to be fair. He's probably using this as sort of
Speaker 1: a demonstration of what he you know, like like a
Speaker 1: visual aid for the uneducated. However, it doesn't, like you said,
Speaker 1: it doesn't exactly inspire confidence, you know, if someone's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's exactly like this is gonna work. I mean it
Speaker 1: does have like the fatality rate is not good. If
Speaker 1: a doctor walks into a hospital room and like says,
Speaker 1: all right, let me give you a visual ADI brings
Speaker 1: out a cucumber and like some baby carrots. I'm gonna leave,
Speaker 1: Like I actually think I'm good unless he's offering me
Speaker 1: a salad, and which guy is I'm happy for? Uh? So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we're a little ways off of
Speaker 1: actually reattaching human heads. Sounds that way. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's impossible. And he makes a sort
Speaker 1: of interesting point with like, if you surgically sever a
Speaker 1: spinal cord with a really thin knife, it isn't theory
Speaker 1: easier to attach because like that's what a lot of
Speaker 1: like complex surgery use very thin things, so you can
Speaker 1: reattach tendons or nerves, and we can kind of do
Speaker 1: that to some extent. It's just the spinal cord is
Speaker 1: way more complicated. And this is I think we're a
Speaker 1: few decades at least away from this, um, I trust you.
Speaker 1: But we have, however, made the big milestone of reanimating
Speaker 1: dead pig brains. Oh good, if this sounds familiar to anyone,
Speaker 1: we have actually talked about this on the show before.
Speaker 1: I think in the Eat Prey Diet episode, Yale neuroscientists
Speaker 1: brought pig baines back pig brains back to life, kind
Speaker 1: of maybe so the pig brains were taken from a
Speaker 1: slaughterhouse and we're pumped with artificial blood called brain X. Now, scientists,
Speaker 1: let me let me talk to you here for a second.
Speaker 1: Just just when you're naming your like blood pumping device
Speaker 1: or your brain artificial blood, maybe go with it names
Speaker 1: other than auto jector or brain X, because then you
Speaker 1: just sound like a villain. You did, Like, it's so
Speaker 1: easy to not You just need to give it a
Speaker 1: complicated name to people, right, understand, right, like you know
Speaker 1: synthohemo or something. Right, You're like, oh, that sounds boring,
Speaker 1: sounds want. Here's the thing about medicine. I want to
Speaker 1: be bored by medicine that sounds smarter than me. Right,
Speaker 1: that's the best case scenario. When a doctor talks to
Speaker 1: me and I'm bored, that's good, that's good news. If
Speaker 1: a doctor talks to me and I'm confused and alarmed,
Speaker 1: that's very bad. Why does this sound? Why are you
Speaker 1: talking about brain? Explain anyways, not to not to demean
Speaker 1: these extremely intelligent neuroscience at least that is true, you know,
Speaker 1: like just like what about I mean brain jelly is fun?
Speaker 1: I mean it's like if you're going to go that
Speaker 1: way all the way right exactly. Yeah, So they brought
Speaker 1: the brains back to life for up to thirty six hours. Um. Now,
Speaker 1: the researchers reported that there was no evidence that the
Speaker 1: brains had regained consciousness, which is good. However, we don't
Speaker 1: know how to measure consciousness. So I don't know how
Speaker 1: you can say, well, it's a complicated science. Because you know,
Speaker 1: you you can there are certain signs that maybe you're
Speaker 1: conscious in terms of brain activity, and so you can
Speaker 1: often sort of say, okay, this this is brain death
Speaker 1: because there's not this activity or this isn't showing conscious thought.
Speaker 1: But it's again, it's it's not. We don't it's not
Speaker 1: like completely well defined it. We can't. We don't have
Speaker 1: like a consciousness meter, which I would call call the
Speaker 1: contracts God. Okay, so I mean thirty six hours old.
Speaker 1: That's like, that's better than that's better than the scary
Speaker 1: dog guys. That's true, and it maybe it's it's more
Speaker 1: it's like it gives you time to finish your unfinished
Speaker 1: pig business. If you could be time for some some
Speaker 1: good hard conversation, right, like if you could put uh,
Speaker 1: I mean you know, you have this pig brain. Maybe
Speaker 1: it has a way to like you got some robot
Speaker 1: eyes and like a way to communicate, and like you
Speaker 1: have to tell them that they're using their body and
Speaker 1: some kind of like taco bell, you know, Nacho Cheese,
Speaker 1: bole stack, Cheetah's dust and crusted nightmare, and they're like
Speaker 1: really really, but it's not. I mean I would come
Speaker 1: back to life, reconcile with my son and then be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta go back to this and your
Speaker 1: son is to be clear, that animatronic twerking mummy that
Speaker 1: you posted on Twitter, right, yes, of course. So I'll
Speaker 1: explain it for people who are not aware of the
Speaker 1: twerking mummy. Jamie, um, my good friend Jamie here, she
Speaker 1: has bought a twerking mummy from CVS twelve dollars for
Speaker 1: twenty dollars. Um, I've actually seen I saw a bunch
Speaker 1: of these at another CVS and my first thought was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's his cousins. People have been sending me videos
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, this is disruptive in the CVS.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you should do it, but starting that
Speaker 1: one absolutely do a little. But to go up. You
Speaker 1: can't in Unison. You cannot stock your store with animatronic
Speaker 1: twerking mummies that you can as a consumer test and
Speaker 1: not expect that to happen. It's an occupational hazard. Truly.
Speaker 1: I hope that people who work at CVS absolutely despise them.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tip CVS workers because like I would like
Speaker 1: if I, because then maybe it would be like, look,
Speaker 1: I know this is gonna be annoying and it's gonna
Speaker 1: play like what song does it play when they're working?
Speaker 1: It's like a B side pit Bull song. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's bad. That's really heinous for the work there. But
Speaker 1: if I could tip them, like a nice tip and
Speaker 1: be like, look like nobody's happy about this, but I
Speaker 1: have to do it, but like, hang in there, ill
Speaker 1: be worth the journey. God, they're so fun. Their butts
Speaker 1: are so big. Why are they're but so big? It's happy,
Speaker 1: happy butterween Alligators don't need the help of creepy Soviet
Speaker 1: scientists to cheek death. They do it by entering cryogenic stasis.
Speaker 1: So have you ever wondered what happens if an alligator's
Speaker 1: habitat freezes over? Alligators don't typically have to deal with
Speaker 1: frozen waters as they live in warm areas in the South,
Speaker 1: but they do sometimes live in North Carolina, where a
Speaker 1: cold snap can cause the swamps to suddenly turn into
Speaker 1: a sheet of impenetrable ice. For example, there's an alligator
Speaker 1: preserve called Swamp Park which once froze during a cold snap.
Speaker 1: The manager looked out and saw all these little alligator
Speaker 1: noses sticking out of the ice and panicked, thinking they
Speaker 1: were dead. Turns out they were just fine. They instinctively
Speaker 1: positioned their snouts above the water so that when the
Speaker 1: ice formed, it's sealed around their nose, so their nostrils
Speaker 1: were sticking out of the ice. What happened is their
Speaker 1: bodies enter a state of brumation, which is hibernation for
Speaker 1: cold blooded animals. Their metabolism and heart rates slows down
Speaker 1: to a crawl, and all they need to do is
Speaker 1: chill out, suspended by their noses to the ice, breathe
Speaker 1: in and out, and essentially take a deep, deep nap.
Speaker 1: When we return, Wait, what's that I saw something? Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's a ghost. We'll be right back from the spooky cock.
Speaker 1: Now it's time for a ghost story. Did you know
Speaker 1: that Nashville's Belmont Hillsboro neighborhood is haunted by a goose dog,
Speaker 1: according to the novel ghost Dogs of the South Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ever since nineteen sixty two, there have been tales of
Speaker 1: ghostly barking and ethereal canine encounters in the sleepy little neighborhood. Apparently,
Speaker 1: a friendly dog who was a boxer named Preston was
Speaker 1: accompanying tricker treaters on a Halloween night. A truck driver
Speaker 1: didn't see the little tricker treaters on the dark streets,
Speaker 1: but before the children were hit by the speeding truck,
Speaker 1: Preston dove in front of the truck, pushing the tricker
Speaker 1: treaters out of the way into safety. But Preston was
Speaker 1: hit and flew into the air, landing into a nearby yard.
Speaker 1: But when the horrified children ran over to check on
Speaker 1: the dog, there was nobody to be found. Ever since then,
Speaker 1: tricker treaters have reported hearing ghostly barks, a spectral wet
Speaker 1: nose on their hands, or sightings of a phantom pooch.
Speaker 1: Legend has it that Preston spirit roams the streets, gently
Speaker 1: nudging trick or treaters out of the street to protect
Speaker 1: them from cars and probably leaving ghostly duties on the
Speaker 1: side walk. That's so cute. That's the cutest dogs ghost
Speaker 1: story ever know. Also, the source I read said that
Speaker 1: there's a lady who left out biscuits every Halloween for
Speaker 1: the dog, just in case, just in case, in case,
Speaker 1: ghost dogs eat ghost dog. I love ghost dog, ghost dog,
Speaker 1: so I would watch that movie, I know, right. Uh,
Speaker 1: so you know, are there real life ghost dogs? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'll let you be the judge. But there
Speaker 1: are real life ghost sharks I'm in which are like
Speaker 1: the puppies of the sea. So ghost sharks. These are
Speaker 1: some spooky boys. Um. They are not actually a shark,
Speaker 1: And I mean, are they a ghost? I don't know. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm not a ghost ologist. Um. They are an order
Speaker 1: of fish known as chimera forms. I believe I pronounced
Speaker 1: that correctly, which includes a number of species. Uh. They're
Speaker 1: also known as spook fish or chimeras spooky fish. So spooky. Um.
Speaker 1: So this is not to be confused with the motion
Speaker 1: picture ghost Shark. Oh. I was about to ask, this
Speaker 1: is my favorite movie we're talking about. Have you heard
Speaker 1: of this movie? I have not. Um, well, it's a
Speaker 1: supernatural horror romp um Uh. Let me first, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: show you just some clips from this movie, because it
Speaker 1: is peak shark movie. It's a very it's a very
Speaker 1: good plausa. I don't think it is. I think it's
Speaker 1: someone who looks like it. Oh, here comes the ghost shark. Done, done,
Speaker 1: ghost shark. Oh, it's all glowy glow. It's a glowy
Speaker 1: ghost shark. Don't anger that ghost or not. Shore people
Speaker 1: just splashing around in the water. Here's the infamous pool
Speaker 1: scene where teens at a pool are having a good
Speaker 1: time being teenagers. But ghost eat someone right as he's
Speaker 1: about to do a sick cannonball. That was a quick that.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a great this is a good scene. Um,
Speaker 1: this is good for women, I think. Actually, let me
Speaker 1: first explain some of the mythos behind behind Ghost Shark.
Speaker 1: A shark is tortured by a fisherman and his daughter.
Speaker 1: As the shark's dead, tortured body drifts down to the
Speaker 1: bottom of the sea, it is resurrected as it sinks
Speaker 1: to the bottom and lands in a supernatural underwater cave. Now,
Speaker 1: this shark is hounngry for revenge, and revenge is a
Speaker 1: fish best served cold. I like this idea a lot.
Speaker 1: This is a real movie. I'm this is not a bit.
Speaker 1: This is an actual movie. You can look up and
Speaker 1: watch sci fi. Yeah, I think it was on sci
Speaker 1: Fi or something. So the shark kills the fisherman and
Speaker 1: his daughter out of venge, but then also everybody else
Speaker 1: on the boat. And uh normally this is when the
Speaker 1: ghost moves on, like you've settled your unfinished business. But
Speaker 1: not Ghost Shark. Now she wants to eat the entire
Speaker 1: seaside town of Harmony. I don't actually know the shark's gender,
Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm just gonna say she because
Speaker 1: this it progressive women right exactly. I'm going to offset
Speaker 1: some of the gratuitous bikini shots with making the protagonists
Speaker 1: a a woman shark love it. So with her new
Speaker 1: spectral ghost shark body, she is able to teleport into
Speaker 1: anybody of water, such as a pool, bathtubs, buckets of water,
Speaker 1: or glasses of water, killing anyone who dares approach any
Speaker 1: amount of water, no matter how small. Uh So, Ghost
Speaker 1: Shark even kills someone by operating at the end of
Speaker 1: a slipping slide and just chowing down. Perfect And also
Speaker 1: explodes out of a person at some point. I'm not
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not really sure how that happened exactly.
Speaker 1: I can see it though, yeah it So here's the
Speaker 1: let me, I got it. It's just too good. So
Speaker 1: here's here's the women is doing the car wash thing,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing where you get get dressed
Speaker 1: in your sexiest clothing and then you you get in
Speaker 1: a car for five crap all over your boobs. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: And then here's here's a guy like doing some plumbing
Speaker 1: and then oh oh no, plumbing technically is water. So
Speaker 1: and he goes gets sucked up by the ghost shark.
Speaker 1: Here's kids on a slip and slide, which is ironically
Speaker 1: shark themed. And so this, this little ginger kid is
Speaker 1: a gonzo because now comes out of nowhere and eats
Speaker 1: him off the slip and slide. That was a brutal
Speaker 1: that um. And now, so you think you're safe with
Speaker 1: a bucket of water, Sorry, but no ghost shark can
Speaker 1: be inside a bucket of water. And they're really lingering
Speaker 1: on the bikini and not getting to the shark eating
Speaker 1: the ladies. So I'm gonna yeah, I don't know if
Speaker 1: the shark is a woman. If this is the p
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the shark just eats everyone. The
Speaker 1: shark doesn't discriminate, just a cold blooded killer. Right. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm now bored by all of the actual plot of
Speaker 1: the movie, but suffice it to say that shark pops
Speaker 1: out of a bucket and and kills a lady slip
Speaker 1: inside kill was terrific. That was good. That was perhaps
Speaker 1: the most incredible cinematography moments in film history. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: going to be in the history of film that always
Speaker 1: shows up that iconic scene. So the mayor of this
Speaker 1: town is uninterested in the plucky young teens who wants
Speaker 1: to solve the ghost Shark mystery as he is up
Speaker 1: for a re election. So the plucky teens team up
Speaker 1: with a grizzled, drunken lighthouse keeper. Together they solved the
Speaker 1: mystery of ghost Shark and finally end her reign of
Speaker 1: terror by laying her body to rest by blowing up
Speaker 1: the supernatural cave in which ghost Shark was resurrected. So
Speaker 1: problem solved. This is this is perhaps the best movie.
Speaker 1: I love this. Yeah, I'm absolutely hooked. It makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think we can all as in a logical progression
Speaker 1: of ideas and plot points. Yes, um, and the shark
Speaker 1: eats some kid off of a slipping slide. Like, what
Speaker 1: more do you people want? Yeah, if you want to,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, snobs. So now let's move on to the
Speaker 1: real ghost shark. So deep sea fish, as I said,
Speaker 1: a chimera form. Uh. And it lives at depths of
Speaker 1: around eight thousand, five hundred feet under the sea. They
Speaker 1: grew up to about five ft long. They're not huge,
Speaker 1: but they are very spooky looking. So let me show
Speaker 1: you a video of the real ghost shark. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: Oh was cuter than I expected. Exactly right. They got
Speaker 1: like a weird little nose, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of fin fin action going on. Uh. And they are
Speaker 1: they're squire, they're little jelly boys because like sharks, their
Speaker 1: skeletons are made out of cartilage. Um. And unlike sharks,
Speaker 1: they kind of have a retractable weiener on their foreheads.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean that's fun. That's a little bit
Speaker 1: of kinky fun. Yeah. To be fair, it's not a
Speaker 1: real weener. It's more like a retractable vibrator. Um. It's
Speaker 1: it's not a functional penis, but it is used to
Speaker 1: stimulate the female sex organs and to pull her closer.
Speaker 1: So it's like a sex toy finger forehead, a finger
Speaker 1: for finger, but only for pickering, right exactly. And it
Speaker 1: looks like a spiked club. And here is a picture
Speaker 1: of it. Oh that is phallic. Yeah, very sex toy esque. Um.
Speaker 1: It's called scientifically, it's called a class berm, but I
Speaker 1: like to call it a dongus because that's what it
Speaker 1: looks like to me. Uh. They also have a venomous
Speaker 1: spike in the dorsal fin. Just for fun, I guess
Speaker 1: some of them also have a weird floppy snout. And now,
Speaker 1: since they're deep sea animals, whenever you bring a deep
Speaker 1: sea animal up to the surface, it's always gonna go
Speaker 1: through a process of what I like to call dupification,
Speaker 1: where they look a lot more doofy out of the
Speaker 1: water because stuff happens to their skin because they're under
Speaker 1: immense pressure. So when they're brought up out of that,
Speaker 1: it's um. So here here he is, though, and it
Speaker 1: looks pretty boy, what a saucy little kid, these guys.
Speaker 1: He's got a floppy nose and this kind of weird
Speaker 1: mouth and he looks um. He kind of just looks
Speaker 1: like a dufus, just a nice guy, I know, with
Speaker 1: the kindness and the thoughtfulness of having a dongas on
Speaker 1: his forehead. I really yeah like us for her, for her,
Speaker 1: for her pleasure, ribbed for her pleasure. Most species would
Speaker 1: never I know, right. I mean, this is like a
Speaker 1: progressive shark. This is a shark that cares if you
Speaker 1: come or not. And that is a beautiful thing. Um.
Speaker 1: And so you also don't really have to be worried
Speaker 1: about this shark killing you, first of all, because they
Speaker 1: are kind of small, and also because they mostly eat
Speaker 1: invertebrates and shellfish and they don't really have teeth. They
Speaker 1: have grinding plates that they use to crush up clams
Speaker 1: and crabs and other small invertebrates. So they are I
Speaker 1: like these guys sweethearts. They're sweet little they're they're just
Speaker 1: a little bit golf. They're sweet little dongases. Yeah that's nice.
Speaker 1: That was an uplifting line, I know, right, um, And
Speaker 1: so uh now I want to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: just to kind of close out the show about lemurs.
Speaker 1: And the word lemur comes from the Latin word for
Speaker 1: ghosts and the whole so there's not too much that
Speaker 1: is ghostly about lemurs except for and they're very cute.
Speaker 1: If you've seen lemurs, cute little guys. Their calls, like
Speaker 1: their vocalizations are the creepiest sounding thing come out of
Speaker 1: these cute, fluffy bodies. So let's start off with the
Speaker 1: call of a ring tailed lemur. Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: it sounds it sounds like a horror movie sound effect,
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, it sounds like like if you
Speaker 1: googled like scream stube or the shrieking violins and psycho.
Speaker 1: Oh I benef you layered those. Yes, yes, yes, this
Speaker 1: is I mean like it sounds like like Heredity, you know,
Speaker 1: the horror movie Hereditary Heredity. Yeah. God um, And now
Speaker 1: let's move on to the black and white ruffed lemur. Oh,
Speaker 1: it just sounds like he's going to like eat your bones.
Speaker 1: Sounds like audio glitching too, right, like some kind of
Speaker 1: demon computer very seven days to Live or like the
Speaker 1: you know, like how that horror movie thing of like
Speaker 1: things like you know where it's got that sound to it,
Speaker 1: which but then look how cute he is. He's got
Speaker 1: a chin beard. I know, I was like, I trust him,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, he's he's got a dark side for sure. Right.
Speaker 1: Um so these vocalizations are thought to be, or or
Speaker 1: have been sort of historically thought to be, like the
Speaker 1: calls of the spirits of the Island. Yeah, that's kind
Speaker 1: of cool because they do sound pretty uh. I mean
Speaker 1: these are some ordinary spirits though, I got a say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they chose the cutest possible vessels. I know, I
Speaker 1: give them that. It's like it's like a haunted kitten
Speaker 1: that just goes like like, oh, but it's so cute.
Speaker 1: I guess you can come home with me. Wow. Well
Speaker 1: that is that's all the horror that I have for you.
Speaker 1: It's a very haunted episode. I know, it's very spooky.
Speaker 1: You got any you got any spooky stories, Jamie, Any
Speaker 1: spooky stories? Um? Well no. Most of the spooky stories
Speaker 1: were made up. And my my dad was really good
Speaker 1: at like making up speaking stories before bed. He would
Speaker 1: always talk about a sports editor at his paper that
Speaker 1: didn't exist, who would cut his fingers off for missing deadlines?
Speaker 1: Do they give you're not gonna be two hundred words
Speaker 1: per minute, I'll remove your fabies. It was a whole
Speaker 1: series of stories. Yeah, people who go mysteriously missing from
Speaker 1: the sports department. My dad did this thing when I
Speaker 1: was a little kid that freaks my little brain. It
Speaker 1: was he got a it was like an encyclopedia or
Speaker 1: dictionary where they had the pictures and he said, I'm
Speaker 1: going to do a magic trick. I'm like, okay, sure, dad,
Speaker 1: And I'm like five years old. And I was a
Speaker 1: pretty you know, pretty cynical five year old, and I
Speaker 1: didn't think necessarily that's okay, you can't do magic with
Speaker 1: a dictionary. But he, uh, he got a He was like,
Speaker 1: here's a picture of a jack rabbit. I'm like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: sure dad. Cool cool tricked out, this is boring. Then
Speaker 1: he turned the page and like, here's a picture of
Speaker 1: an antelope. And I was like, yeah, alright, cool dad.
Speaker 1: And then he waved his hand over the book and
Speaker 1: he's like here here, and we're combining them with magic.
Speaker 1: And he opened it up to a jackalope and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, what the hell I was? I was
Speaker 1: a like certain that my dad was a book sorcerer.
Speaker 1: It freaked me out. Wow, I thought the book was haunted.
Speaker 1: That's a very smart deception. That was a good dad troll.
Speaker 1: That's a very good dad troll. Yes, that's off I
Speaker 1: used to tell my brother that there was one book
Speaker 1: in every library that if you took it off the shelf,
Speaker 1: the whole library would explode. And so he that's actually true.
Speaker 1: That's actually true though, Yeah, there's it's not actually that
Speaker 1: the library explodes, it's that there's a load bearing book
Speaker 1: that if you remove it, the whole library collapses. Well,
Speaker 1: my mother to this day has never read a bout. Okay,
Speaker 1: she really helped with his education. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining me on this spooky Halloween special, Jamie, than
Speaker 1: for having you got any you got anything a plug
Speaker 1: other than your trking mummy? Oh, I mean check out
Speaker 1: the twrking Mummy. Twitter dot com got flagged by t
Speaker 1: s A last week because of the tworking Mommy. I
Speaker 1: thought something was in the ass. It was they thought it?
Speaker 1: Did they think it? They thought that there might have
Speaker 1: been drugs. Oh, they thought there might have been drugs
Speaker 1: in the app. It is a plump as you could
Speaker 1: fit drugs in it, hide something in there. So check
Speaker 1: out the mummy and then listen to the bec del Casta,
Speaker 1: which I co host right here on our radio with
Speaker 1: Caitlin Toronte every Thursday. Yeah, I've seen you guys around
Speaker 1: doing things. I was sure. I wasn't really sure what
Speaker 1: you're doing in here, in this here studio. Larking around
Speaker 1: has to do with the dogshead. Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: On social You can find me on Twitter at Jamie
Speaker 1: off His Help and Instagram at Jamie christ Superstar. And
Speaker 1: you can find us on the internet at well first
Speaker 1: of all, Creature feature Pod dot Com, Creature Feature Pod
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and Creature Feet Pod on Twitter. That's f
Speaker 1: E a T, not f et. The other one is
Speaker 1: very different. You can find me at Katie Golden and
Speaker 1: of course, as always I fight for the rights of
Speaker 1: our A B and overlords at pro bird Rights. Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today. If you're
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Speaker 1: I mean, but just for listening. Thank you, that's great.
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Happy Halloween, stay out of traffic
Speaker 1: or else ghost Dog Preston is gonna gonna get mad
Speaker 1: at you sort of. He's got your back. He's got
Speaker 1: your back, that's true. He's a friendly ghost dog. Thanks
Speaker 1: to the Space Classics for their super spook tacular song.
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