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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature future production of I Heart Radio. Happy Creature.

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Speaker 1: Read everybody Today on the show, It's a monster mash

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Speaker 1: all the classic horror movie monsters brought to life through

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Speaker 1: the very real world of science. We're looking at animals

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Speaker 1: who can truly call themselves Dracula, real life Frankenstein's Monsters

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Speaker 1: and Goes Sharks. Discover this and more as we answer

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Speaker 1: the Agel question, can adopt lick you to death? So

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Speaker 1: lest you think that evolutionary biologists are too stuffy to

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Speaker 1: care about Halloween and spooky monsters, one of their favorite

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Speaker 1: things to do is to name newly discovered creatures after

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Speaker 1: horror film icons. As listeners of the show, you may

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Speaker 1: know by now that evolutionary biology is better at concocting

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Speaker 1: horror than West Craven, Hitchcock, and Stephen King combined. A

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Speaker 1: lot of animals may get their spooky names after their

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Speaker 1: appearance is alone. Take, for instance, the Halloween Crab, an

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Speaker 1: adorable little terrestrial crab who lives in Central America who

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Speaker 1: is orange and black and looks like a little Jack

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Speaker 1: lantern pumpkin. There's also the Halloween snake, who lives in

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Speaker 1: South and Central America. Who's got orange, white and black stripes.

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Speaker 1: But don't pet this dangerous candy corn noodle. They're highly venomous.

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Speaker 1: Some animals not only get a spooky name in Halloween colors,

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Speaker 1: but their behaviors are truly bizarre or downright horrifying. Joining

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Speaker 1: me today to celebrate Halloween by going on a haunted

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Speaker 1: safari through the world of spooky species is comedy writer,

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Speaker 1: co host of The Bechtel Cast, and proud owner of

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Speaker 1: an animatronic twerking. Mommy Janey loved us credit for Las.

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Speaker 1: How are you pretty good? I'm terrified already this there

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Speaker 1: is yeah. Researching this like, I was like, Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: not too scary, but there is one part where I

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Speaker 1: got nightmares from it. They just look scary or they

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Speaker 1: doing scary things as well. Oh you'll find out. So

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Speaker 1: first I want to talk about the vampire squid. So,

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Speaker 1: first of all, the vampire squid is not really a squid.

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Speaker 1: It's also not really a vampire. So right, so probably

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Speaker 1: wondering why is a vampire Let's go, well, it is

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Speaker 1: a deep sea creature in the order vampiro morphidia. Wait, no,

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Speaker 1: vampiro morphida. That's it. It's ancient form of cephalopod that

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Speaker 1: arose before squid and octopus is diverged. So it lives

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Speaker 1: in the deep sea at depths of up to three

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Speaker 1: thousand feet. So it's it's in there. What is just

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Speaker 1: leg numbers? Yes, it's kind of well, so squids can

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Speaker 1: have different numbers of legs from octopuses, but there's also

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Speaker 1: other morphological differences, like in their mantle and um. But

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Speaker 1: so there used to be one but then they diverge. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think the vampire morphia is the common ancestor,

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Speaker 1: but it is sort of like a predecessor from that time.

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Speaker 1: Scary uncle, scary uncle. That's a good yeah, yeah, uh so. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they're in tropical and temperate oceans all over the world

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Speaker 1: at these deep depths, deeply deeply in there, scary deep

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Speaker 1: down in there. They're cute little guys who can reach

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Speaker 1: up to a foot in length, and unlike typical squid,

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Speaker 1: it has a rounder head and eight webbed tentacles. Uh

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Speaker 1: and the underside of its tentacles are aligned with flesh spines. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the cape of a vampire

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Speaker 1: or a nightmare umbrella. Oh, that's cute. It's the door here.

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Speaker 1: Let me, I'm gonna show you. Yeah, I want to

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Speaker 1: see a video of these guys because they are Wow,

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Speaker 1: they are pretty adorable. Okay, little emil umbrellas. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it's actually scarier than I thought it would be. Picture

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Speaker 1: it's cute. It looks like a lump of flesh and

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Speaker 1: look at it. Go wow. Oh it turns itself inside out, yes,

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Speaker 1: indeed to reveal spiky sparks colored. Yeah, so it's kind

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Speaker 1: of a fleshy red on the outside and a black

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Speaker 1: on the inside, kind of like a reverse Dracula Cape's.

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Speaker 1: It is very goss you know. Yes, it's super gonside.

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Speaker 1: When threatened, it will dramatically turn itself inside out, wrapping

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Speaker 1: It's such a drama. Queen Dracula squid. I am not

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a little insecure squid. I know,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of like hiding inside of its cloak. Do

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Speaker 1: you think like that's why Dracula is always hiding behind

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Speaker 1: his cape? Is he kind of insecure about his teeth

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Speaker 1: or something? I know. It's like it's either insecurity or

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Speaker 1: both at the same time. Dramatic cape swoosh, God, that

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Speaker 1: was so that will hunt me? The fleshy blob in

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Speaker 1: And it's like doing cape swooshes, defining itself by creature

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Speaker 1: of the doc. You're like, yeah, sure. So some of

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Speaker 1: these squids are actually pure black, so they're very super

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Speaker 1: extra goth. But they also have these bright blue eyes

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Speaker 1: and they feed on sea garbage otherwise as marine snow.

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Speaker 1: So you know, like when you look at like these

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Speaker 1: water column. It's man out of dead things, flakes, whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you don't, yeah exactly wow. And then they're like

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Speaker 1: good enough for me. See it's insecure yeah, yeah, secure garbage,

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Speaker 1: like hold yourself to a higher standard. I guess I'll

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Speaker 1: hide in my Mydracula cape and eat this garbage like

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Speaker 1: you deserve more. Poor little emo cephalopods trash all day trash.

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Speaker 1: And it eats by dangling a long thread like appendage

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Speaker 1: called a filament from inside its cape, So it's like

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Speaker 1: it spits out this little floss and then there's these

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Speaker 1: tiny hairs on this filament that pick up the marine snow,

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Speaker 1: the sea garbage. It just sucks it back in like

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Speaker 1: a like a spaghetti littlekebob, Yeah, exactly, and then it

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Speaker 1: uses its tentacles to like pull the marine snow off

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Speaker 1: it eats like garbage snotballs. Gross. Oh come on, I mean,

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Speaker 1: who hasn't look basically today, I eat like a garbage Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I eat the equivalent does it snot garbage constantly?

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Speaker 1: So you can't judge too harshly. God, he sounds like

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Speaker 1: a weird middle schooler. That's like the vibes and getting

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Speaker 1: from it's a weird middle schooler. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: that would be like what you're talking about, middle schooler.

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Speaker 1: It lives in a minimal oxygen zone and it has

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Speaker 1: a very low metabolic rate compared to its squid and

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Speaker 1: octopus relatives. So it moves very slowly. That's nice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't suck blood. It's only called the vampire school

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Speaker 1: it because of its stage presence, because of its cave. Okay,

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Speaker 1: uh so, not only does it have the habit of

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Speaker 1: not actually realizes it has. Yeah, those were scary. Well,

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Speaker 1: but in complete darkness, there are these two blue glowing

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Speaker 1: little spots on its mantle, more like more ornate, like

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Speaker 1: just ornaments exactly. Well, the thought is that potentially they

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Speaker 1: that there's there's some sort of like weird joke to

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Speaker 1: also to me because like it has the eye spots

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Speaker 1: which is nothing. But the very tips of its tentacles

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Speaker 1: like a much bigger animal. That makes sense because when

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Speaker 1: a much larger creature, right like your You wouldn't see

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Speaker 1: with like a gooey light show of muca see rave fluid.

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Speaker 1: it harmful, No, it's just distracting. Like if you were

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Speaker 1: the eyeballs, but are are really something else. The real

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Speaker 1: So onto our next Dracula contender, I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about Goodbye Goodbye Dracula Squid you are very melodramatic and adorable.

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Speaker 1: Grow out of it. It's just a phase. So now

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Speaker 1: the vampire finches, which are a little more serious in

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Speaker 1: little finches that live on the Galapagos Islands. So typically

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Speaker 1: say their hunger, so they attack boobies. No, okay, this

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Speaker 1: I I really taste that one. It's like that is

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Speaker 1: bacteria present in dog saliva. As I say, had like

418
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: a one million chance of this happening, and she was

419
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 1: a winner, poor woman. So she developed gangreen in necrosis

420
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: in her arms and legs. Um so for that, yes, yeah,

421
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: so um. She they weren't all completely amputated, but partially amputated.

422
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: Her immune system went crazy in response to this bacteria

423
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: found in the dog saliva, and it caused these blood

424
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: clots that killed off the tissue in her limbs and

425
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: so they couldn't save it. So they had to do

426
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: a partial amputation. Wow, But you know, if they hadn't

427
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: caught it in time, she would have died. So technically

428
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: your dog can lick you to death, does it? I'm

429
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 1: just trying to I'm like, I don't know. If I don't,

430
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how. My dog has some empathy, but

431
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 1: not as much as your average dog, right right, So

432
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: it's like, did they I wonder if they think that

433
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: they're helping, even if they may be giving you gangreen. Yeah,

434
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they ever intend to give you gang green.

435
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't think that that that you can sort of

436
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: like scratch off. Not malicious, definitely not malicious. I don't

437
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: know if they know whether they're helping. I would assume

438
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: I do. Personally, I do think dogs have some empathy

439
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: for if you can call it that, it's at least affection,

440
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: at least like a positive emotion connected. So I think

441
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: that when they lick a wound or they lick you,

442
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a social activity and they feel gratified

443
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: doing it. Probably helps that our skin is salty and tasty,

444
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: probably helps that our blood taste delicious. Uh, But I

445
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: do think it is a pro social behavior, and I

446
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: would if I had to bet money on it. I

447
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: would think that they feel not like they're getting away

448
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: with something, but that they're doing something positive because they'll

449
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: like lick each other and it's a positive thing. So

450
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: it's it's the golden rule, like my friends, like others,

451
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: as you would have your self licked. That makes sense. Okay, Well,

452
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: so my dog isn't like actively trying to kill me.

453
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: He just might do it by mistake. Well, I don't

454
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: know your dog, but you know I would. He's a

455
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: he's a nightmare. He's going to hell. So your dog

456
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: can accidentally look you to death. But it's typically out

457
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: of misguided love rather than a lust for blood. But

458
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: can animals get a taste of human blood and crave seconds.

459
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: Some animal conservationists caution that when certain predators like big cats,

460
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: get a taste of human blood, once they pop, they

461
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: just can't stop. And it turns out it's because our

462
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: blood is extra delicious. Dr maheshawar to Call, a biodiversity

463
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: expert in the Ministry of Forests and Environment in Nepal,

464
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: warns that leopards who get a sample of human blood

465
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: may never want to go back to the crumbing blood

466
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: they've got it. Home quote since human blo it has

467
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: more salt than animal blood. Once wild animals get the

468
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: taste of salty blood that they do not like the

469
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: other animals. Like dear Dr de Call says, Apparently we're

470
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: season to perfection. The most notorious serial killer kitties where

471
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: the savo lion man eaters of who let's be fair,

472
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: would probably eat people of any gender. These lions eight

473
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: construction workers on a railroad in Kenya and had an

474
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: estimated thirty five victims. According to one worker's diary quote bones, flesh, skin,

475
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: and blood. They devoured all and left not a trace

476
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: behind them. There's a theory that these lions preferred human

477
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: flesh as they had some dental problems making it difficult

478
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: to hunt less soft creatures. But hey, we have salty,

479
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: delicious blood too, So are these big cats serial killers

480
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: or food snobs? When we return, we're going to look

481
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: at another classic movie monster Frankenstein. Could a real life

482
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: Frankenstein exists and we'll be looking at some horrifying scientific

483
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: experiments conducted in the nineteen forties. Imagine that you've been

484
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: kidnapped by some creepy Soviet era scientists. Cool they lay

485
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: you on an operating table and put you under anesthesia. Great, awesome.

486
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: You lose consciousness for what seems like only a minute.

487
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: You awake, relieved you're not dead. You're surrounded by blurry images,

488
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: the smell of antiseptic, and a weird churning sound. A

489
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: bright light shines in your eyes and you blink. You

490
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: hear the excited voices of the scientists. Then someone coax

491
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: you in the eye. You try to lift your arm

492
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: to bat them away. When you realize you can't feel

493
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: your arm or the rest of your body, You look

494
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: down and are horrified to see that instead of your body,

495
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: there's a mass of tubes and red fluid and what

496
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: looks like a vat of churning blood. So, Jamie, this

497
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: is one of the more disturbing things that I'll talk

498
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: about on the podcast because it involves humans being assholes.

499
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: This is yeah, the worst, Okay, So I feel warmed up.

500
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: We started with the cute stuff, the cute and have

501
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: your happy space beat the Dracula squid. I will go

502
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: back into my theater squid. If I get scared, I'll

503
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: just hide myself in my spiky cape. Yeah, yeah, your

504
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: mental spiky cape. So there's a Soviet film, which is

505
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: apparently a documentary called Experiments in the Revival of Organisms,

506
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: showcasing experiments by Soviet scientists Sergey S. Bruconico. Yeah, that's

507
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: a that's a Russian name. Uh. If you're a dog lover,

508
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: you may want to skip ahead, which is also a

509
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: horrible pun, as you'll find out. Yes, but yeah, it

510
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: is genuine. This upset me. I have a pretty strong

511
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: constitution that comes to creepy things. Not like I'm a

512
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: dog owner. I'm I have a little dog. And when

513
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: I was like reading through this, I was just imagining

514
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: this happening to my dog. I was just like, this

515
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: is awful, this is horrifying. So it's a little you know,

516
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my chance. Yeah, yeah, I mean Jamie

517
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: doesn't have a choice, but you the listeners. Um so

518
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: uh it's this old timey medical film. Let me show

519
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: it to you. Um, Okay. At least it's black and white,

520
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: so it feels less like it's happening to send me

521
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: the dog. It's got creepy music. Great, uh, and so

522
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: here's it starts out with a heart that they claim

523
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: is uh and you hear this like creepy detached narrator

524
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: the whole time. Yeah, in this part, they have what

525
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: they claim as a dog's heart attached to a sort

526
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: of artificial pumping mechanism that's pumping blood in and out

527
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: of the heart and keeping it beating. Um, so they

528
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: show they show some footage of the heartbeating. Yeah, a

529
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: giant thing pumping blood into it. It's all extremely terrible. Boy.

530
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: And then um, and that's not the worst part. They

531
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: also show a pair of lungs being quote unquote brought

532
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: back to life by this artificial pump that's pumping in blood.

533
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: That scene in Midsummer is there what happens, I guess

534
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: spoilers is not relevant to the plot. They're like one

535
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: of the guys they kill and they cut him open

536
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: and hang him up like style, and then his lungs

537
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: are still. You're like, oh no, oh, yeah, they call

538
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: like a death eagle or something. Yeah, that's awful. I'm

539
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: scary Swedish stuff. This is there's a cartoon. Yeah, it's

540
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: it gets worse than a cartoon. But as you can

541
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: see by the diagram, it's a dog's head attached to

542
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: a machine and the issue the machine is called an

543
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: autoject or that pumps oxygenated blood into the head and

544
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: allows the used blood to pump out of the head,

545
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: and so it's allegedly functioning as an artificial heart. And

546
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: I keep saying allegedly. I'm going to talk about whether

547
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: or not this video is actually real and just a bit,

548
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: I know, right, So they show an actual video of

549
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: of a dog head reacting to sounds, reacting to stimuli.

550
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: So they the eyes twitched when being poked, the nose

551
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: twitches when being tickled with a feather. The dog licks

552
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: its mouth when citric acid is placed on its lip,

553
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: and citric as it is just like the stuff in

554
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: like lemons and stuff. It's okay, we're kind of going

555
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: a little bit yeah, yeah, and you can see you

556
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: can see it licking its lips and sort of reacting

557
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: like a dog sort of normally would um right, well,

558
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: Soviet Russia, like we've gotta now, do we, although I

559
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: got to say America is not much better, as we'll

560
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: find out in a little bit for sure. So uh.

561
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: Later in the film, a dog is drained of all

562
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,959
Speaker 1: of its blood and is allegedly brought back to life

563
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: by the auto jector, and the film claims it goes

564
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: on to live a normal life. So we've gone through

565
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: it does so we've gone through all the horror of

566
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: this like artificial blood pump supposedly bringing dogs back to life.

567
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: So let's talk about the veracity of the film. This

568
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: was actually really hard for me to find out. I

569
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: would love if like, save you're a listener and like

570
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: this is your field of study and you know everything

571
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: about this film, Like, please get in touch with me,

572
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: because I really want someone to just tell me, no,

573
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: it's not real. Um. So here's the issue. The film

574
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: never shows like the whole experiment, just like the doghead.

575
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: You can't even really see the stuff hooked up to it. Um.

576
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: It's highly possible that they just sedated a dog, stuck

577
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: its head through a whole in the table, and then

578
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: started doing this stuff. Um, you know, doing all these reactions.

579
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: But there is so the film itself could be kind

580
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: of like fake ish. But there are scientists who went

581
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: and observed the experiment and they claimed that it was real. However,

582
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: far from the doghead surviving hours as the film claimed, uh,

583
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: the dog had only survived a minute or two. Um,

584
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: which makes more sense, to make more sense, and it

585
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: also is more brutal somehow if they're like, look, we

586
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: can bring a dog back to life for a minute

587
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: for no reason. Yeah, Well, to me, actually having it

588
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: live for hours is worse because it's like, at least

589
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: for a minute, maybe it doesn't have enough time to

590
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: register what's going on, really feeling Yeah, good lord. And

591
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: then furthermore, witnesses to the experiment where the dog was

592
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: there's a dog that was exanguinated, which means all of

593
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: its blood was drained out and then brought back to

594
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: life with this auto ject or. Rejector is also a

595
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: very villainous. It's a terrible name for a thing, right,

596
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: and it's like, it's so just let me describe it,

597
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: just in case it's kind of unclear. It's like a

598
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: vat of blood that gets artificially oxygenated, gets pumped into

599
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: the poor creature's head, and then the deoxygenated blood gets

600
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: pumped out. So it's supposedly working like a real heartwood,

601
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: but horrible in every possible conceivable way. It does look

602
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: like a movie problem. It does, which also makes me

603
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: slightly suspicious it is. But you know, there are there

604
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: are witnesses who claimed that this is sort of you know,

605
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: at least has some truth to it. So witnesses to

606
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: the experiment where the dog was drained of its blood

607
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,399
Speaker 1: and brought back to life claim that the dog had

608
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: severe brain damage and didn't live for more than a

609
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: couple of days, which again a normal life, right exactly.

610
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: It's I mean, that's the thing is I would really

611
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 1: hope the film is like a d percent fall. I

612
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: have a feeling it's sort of mixing creative cinematography with

613
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: maybe some realish results, but then like vastly out of proportion,

614
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: like very overblown results, like you bring a dog head

615
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: back for a minute in a terrible way, like yeah, congratulations,

616
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: right exactly. Uh yeah, So there are eyewitnesses accounts of

617
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: doctor Bruko Nico being able to keep a doghead alive

618
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: for at least brief periods of time, which is horrible,

619
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: And so there are other experiences that have shown that

620
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: this kind of very maccab science is possible, even though

621
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: it's still like why please don't I think the intention

622
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,439
Speaker 1: isn't just to be insane, but I think it's too

623
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: Oh here, we could save people's lives by bringing them

624
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: back to life in this way from right, that makes

625
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: so you know, maybe not cartoonish villain, but also awful,

626
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: terrible stuff going on here. Also like even worse that

627
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: they're like it sounds like falsely reporting the results. Yeah,

628
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Speaker 1: we could bring someone back to life. It would be

629
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,959
Speaker 1: for a very short time and there would be an

630
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 1: immense pain. But right, they could do it. Their life

631
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: would be confused, agony, but hey, right, it's like Jesus.

632
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: So the US, US of America, the United the USA

633
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: of America heard of it, Yes, decided that it, being

634
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: the Cold War, we have to get in on this horrifying,

635
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: dog brutalizing action. So in I know, right. In nineteen

636
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: sixty five, neurosurgeon Robert J. White conducted some really creepy experiments.

637
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 1: He transplanted the brains of dogs into the necks of

638
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: other dogs, which you know, of course, sure why not

639
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 1: cool right uh, and showed e G activity in the brains,

640
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: indicating that they were alive to whatever extent you could imagine.

641
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't know, like you don't know if

642
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: they're conscious, you don't not. It's like dog in a

643
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: neck now, probably not getting any sensory information. That's horrible. Um,

644
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: And so that wasn't enough existential horror. To satisfy Dr

645
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: White invent, he transplanted the head of a reesus monkey

646
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: onto another monkey's body. The monkey could supposedly see here

647
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: and taste things, or at least reacted as if it did,

648
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: though it was paralyzed and only lived for about a

649
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: week of what I imagine was just pure horror. Just

650
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: tear it like the worst week of your second life, right, exactly? God,

651
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean, so, I don't want to you know this,

652
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: this show is a very pro science podcast. I don't

653
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: want to get down on I think there's a lot

654
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: of really important scientific research that involves animals that help

655
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: um pure disease and stuff. I feel like the Saint

656
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: it chief. No, this feels a little overly ambitious and

657
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: clearly has failed a number of feels flamboyant in a way,

658
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna decapitate a monkey and so it's head

659
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: onto another monkey. It's like, is that really necessary? And

660
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: is that actually? Is that the best use of your Yeah,

661
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: exactly that, And it's that the best way to science?

662
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know that it is. It feels

663
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: like it feels I'll say it's a bit much. It's

664
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: a bit much um, speaking of a bitch month much

665
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,280
Speaker 1: you uh may have heard of this guy, Sergio Cannevero,

666
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: who is or Canevero, who is an Italian neurosurgeon who

667
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: claims he is getting close to be able to do

668
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: human head transplants. Oh no, I didn't know that. So

669
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: here's the problem with head transplantation. I mean, actually there's

670
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: a few problems, Okay, So primarily it's the problem with

671
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: any kind of uh organ transplantation, which is the donor

672
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: body or head may reject the donor body or head.

673
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what you would cut. Would you call

674
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: it the donor head or the donor body because the

675
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: head is sort of it feels like where you would

676
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: think donor probably, yeah, I guess. I mean the body

677
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: is bigger, so you think of it as being a

678
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: donor head, but the head is you. I guess you're

679
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: getting another person's brain. Well, but then that would be you.

680
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: I'm confused. Are they trying to bring the body back

681
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: to everything? You're trying to bring the head back to life, right, right?

682
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: So that's so it would be a donor body, right,

683
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: a body transplant really, because you're you're the head and

684
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: you get a new body Uh, that sounds like a

685
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: bad dream. Yeah, it's not. It's not to me. It's

686
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: not a group. Well, let me talk about the problem.

687
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: So you there could be rejection of the body or

688
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: head and or both, because that's a big problem with

689
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: donating organs, and often people have to be on medications

690
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: that help the like kind of calmed down the immune

691
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: system for the rest of their lives and they get

692
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: a donor organ. So with a head and a body

693
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: seems big step, high us, high us. The second problem

694
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: is that this is all terrible and horrifying and Jesus Christ,

695
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: this poor dogs and monkeys. I just anyways, Um, but no,

696
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: So the real second problem is that mending the spinal

697
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 1: cord between the severed head and the body is not

698
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: something we can do just yet. Um. As you can imagine,

699
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: like if you tried to transplant a human head onto

700
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: a donor body, you probably get a result pretty similar

701
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: to that poor poor reeseless monkey where you're paralyzed and

702
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: only live about a week. And it's probably probably and

703
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: it's you know, not to say that people with paralysis

704
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: can lead very happy lives, but I think it's significantly

705
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: different when it's just you're being brought back to life

706
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: under what we can assume as vastly different circumstances. Yes, exactly.

707
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: No one asked for that. I don't know. I mean

708
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: some people might mean, like you know something certain movie moguls.

709
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: Well that's the think. Isn't that like that, even if

710
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 1: the people can find a way to make that process work,

711
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't it just be used to bring back like assholes? Okay,

712
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 1: so let's skip it, asshole transplant scaler, Like, let's bring

713
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: assholes of the past back to life because they had

714
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: enough ego to preserve brothers back like right, like we do,

715
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: thank you? Wow? Finally yeah, because only do you insanely

716
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: rich would be able to do this. Insanely rich are

717
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: often extremely afraid of death. So it's it's, you know,

718
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: like some Peter Teal stuff. Peter Teal would protect his

719
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: own head totally. Elon musk. He's going to freeze your

720
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: body replace his body with like he's yeah, he's too

721
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: narcissistic to even accept a donor. Body's like, no, grow

722
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:56,959
Speaker 1: me a new one. I want a fresh body. He'll

723
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: get a clone donor. I mean, I'm sure there's just

724
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: like a big storage facility full of clone mustle just

725
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: ready to go horrible. So here's the problem with mending

726
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 1: the spinal cord is that is very difficult and hard

727
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: to do also, so we're getting better at spinal repair

728
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: in extremely skilled spinal surgeons at the Lady Cilento Children's

729
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: Hospital in Brisbane, Australia, repaired to Toddler's spine that had

730
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: been internally decapitated. Okay, which sounds bad. I know this

731
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: sounds bad, but this is slightly less alarmingly called a

732
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: C one C two vertebra dislocation. Slightly more alarmingly, it

733
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: has a sixty eight percent fatality rate. So basically, this

734
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: poor little kid's school had become detached from the rest

735
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: of his spine. Now I wouldn't be talking about this

736
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: unless the kids survived, and the kid did survive and

737
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: full recovery. Very so happy ending. Don't want to creep

738
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: you in spend su um. So after surgery, like I said,

739
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: Toddler could walk within three weeks, which is incredible. So

740
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: the key was that the spinal cord itself, which contains

741
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: all your bundle of nerves going from your brain to

742
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: the rest of your body, it hadn't been severed, so

743
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: it was just the vertebrae that had become broken and dislocated,

744
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 1: so which still it's an extremely tricky thing to reattach

745
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: the vertebrae prevent there from being any any damage to

746
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: the spinal cords. So they were able to mend the spine,

747
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: prevent the spinal cord from becoming damage and the little

748
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: kid made a full recovery, which is great. And there's

749
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: been obviously a lot of research into mending spinal cords

750
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: or regrowing spinal cords, but it's a very new science, uh,

751
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: and it's it's an exciting path of research because obviously

752
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: this would be revolutionary for people who have paralysis and

753
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: nerve damage. And it's obviously it would open up a

754
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: whole new field of medicine. But if we have this

755
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: technology now to do head like if we could do

756
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: a head transplant, we could certainly do much more in

757
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: terms of healing paralysis, one step at a time. Right. However,

758
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: Dr Canavero claims that mending spinal cord damage is very

759
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: different from a head transplant because you can precisely and

760
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: surgically decapitate someone, making reattachment easier um And he demonstrated

761
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: this at a ted X talk about uh yeah, with

762
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: bananas and spaghetti of course. So he he's like, he

763
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: holds a banana and he's like, so, first I got

764
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: to make a disclaimer. I'm skeptical of this guy. I'm

765
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: coming from a place of skepticism. Yeah, I can't imagine why.

766
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: So he holds a banana. He's like, this is like

767
00:48:56,320 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: a spinal cord that's gone through damage through trump and

768
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: then he squishes it and throws it on the ground,

769
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: which accurate scientific model of a spinal cord goes through

770
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: when it's physically damaged. Then he takes a banana and

771
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: he's like, this is what would happen if you surgically

772
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: decapitate somebody, And he like slices it with a knife

773
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: and he's and then he starts poking the halves together.

774
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: It was like, see this can be repaired. Checks out right? Yeah.

775
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: He also he also has this cool way of demonstrating

776
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: how he would reattach the spinal cord by sticking a

777
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: bunch of spaghettis, dry spaghettis and a banana and sticking

778
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: them into another banana. This is like obsurd. Okay, I

779
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: don't trust this man. I mean what's cool is that

780
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: we share a lot of animatomical features with the banana. Yeah,

781
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean I think it really when you cut me open,

782
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: I bleed spaghetti. That's why my dog was looking. She

783
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: loves spaghetti. She's probably watched this guy's ted talk and

784
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,720
Speaker 1: she's like, oh my god, she bleeds spaghetti. Wow. There.

785
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know about that.

786
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: I mean all wrong. I did study psychology, but I'm

787
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 1: not a neuroscientist. However, my layman's opinion is that spinal

788
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: nerves aren't really exactly like uncooked spaghetti. I mean I

789
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: think that that is a fair inference to make. Yes, yeah, well,

790
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: someone tell this man with the PhD that I mean,

791
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: to be fair. He's probably using this as sort of

792
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: a demonstration of what he you know, like like a

793
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: visual aid for the uneducated. However, it doesn't, like you said,

794
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't exactly inspire confidence, you know, if someone's like, no,

795
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: it's exactly like this is gonna work. I mean it

796
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: does have like the fatality rate is not good. If

797
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: a doctor walks into a hospital room and like says,

798
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: all right, let me give you a visual ADI brings

799
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: out a cucumber and like some baby carrots. I'm gonna leave,

800
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: Like I actually think I'm good unless he's offering me

801
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: a salad, and which guy is I'm happy for? Uh? So,

802
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, I think we're a little ways off of

803
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: actually reattaching human heads. Sounds that way. I mean, look,

804
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's impossible. And he makes a sort

805
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 1: of interesting point with like, if you surgically sever a

806
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: spinal cord with a really thin knife, it isn't theory

807
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: easier to attach because like that's what a lot of

808
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: like complex surgery use very thin things, so you can

809
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: reattach tendons or nerves, and we can kind of do

810
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: that to some extent. It's just the spinal cord is

811
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: way more complicated. And this is I think we're a

812
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: few decades at least away from this, um, I trust you.

813
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 1: But we have, however, made the big milestone of reanimating

814
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 1: dead pig brains. Oh good, if this sounds familiar to anyone,

815
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: we have actually talked about this on the show before.

816
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: I think in the Eat Prey Diet episode, Yale neuroscientists

817
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: brought pig baines back pig brains back to life, kind

818
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: of maybe so the pig brains were taken from a

819
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: slaughterhouse and we're pumped with artificial blood called brain X. Now, scientists,

820
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: let me let me talk to you here for a second.

821
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: Just just when you're naming your like blood pumping device

822
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: or your brain artificial blood, maybe go with it names

823
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: other than auto jector or brain X, because then you

824
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: just sound like a villain. You did, Like, it's so

825
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: easy to not You just need to give it a

826
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: complicated name to people, right, understand, right, like you know

827
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: synthohemo or something. Right, You're like, oh, that sounds boring,

828
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: sounds want. Here's the thing about medicine. I want to

829
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: be bored by medicine that sounds smarter than me. Right,

830
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: that's the best case scenario. When a doctor talks to

831
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: me and I'm bored, that's good, that's good news. If

832
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: a doctor talks to me and I'm confused and alarmed,

833
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: that's very bad. Why does this sound? Why are you

834
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: talking about brain? Explain anyways, not to not to demean

835
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: these extremely intelligent neuroscience at least that is true, you know,

836
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: like just like what about I mean brain jelly is fun?

837
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's like if you're going to go that

838
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: way all the way right exactly. Yeah, So they brought

839
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: the brains back to life for up to thirty six hours. Um. Now,

840
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: the researchers reported that there was no evidence that the

841
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: brains had regained consciousness, which is good. However, we don't

842
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: know how to measure consciousness. So I don't know how

843
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: you can say, well, it's a complicated science. Because you know,

844
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: you you can there are certain signs that maybe you're

845
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: conscious in terms of brain activity, and so you can

846
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: often sort of say, okay, this this is brain death

847
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: because there's not this activity or this isn't showing conscious thought.

848
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: But it's again, it's it's not. We don't it's not

849
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: like completely well defined it. We can't. We don't have

850
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: like a consciousness meter, which I would call call the

851
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: contracts God. Okay, so I mean thirty six hours old.

852
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: That's like, that's better than that's better than the scary

853
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: dog guys. That's true, and it maybe it's it's more

854
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: it's like it gives you time to finish your unfinished

855
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: pig business. If you could be time for some some

856
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: good hard conversation, right, like if you could put uh,

857
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean you know, you have this pig brain. Maybe

858
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:35,320
Speaker 1: it has a way to like you got some robot

859
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: eyes and like a way to communicate, and like you

860
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: have to tell them that they're using their body and

861
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: some kind of like taco bell, you know, Nacho Cheese,

862
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: bole stack, Cheetah's dust and crusted nightmare, and they're like

863
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: really really, but it's not. I mean I would come

864
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: back to life, reconcile with my son and then be like, Okay,

865
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta go back to this and your

866
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: son is to be clear, that animatronic twerking mummy that

867
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 1: you posted on Twitter, right, yes, of course. So I'll

868
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: explain it for people who are not aware of the

869
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: twerking mummy. Jamie, um, my good friend Jamie here, she

870
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: has bought a twerking mummy from CVS twelve dollars for

871
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: twenty dollars. Um, I've actually seen I saw a bunch

872
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: of these at another CVS and my first thought was like, oh,

873
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: it's it's his cousins. People have been sending me videos

874
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, this is disruptive in the CVS.

875
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you should do it, but starting that

876
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: one absolutely do a little. But to go up. You

877
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: can't in Unison. You cannot stock your store with animatronic

878
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: twerking mummies that you can as a consumer test and

879
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: not expect that to happen. It's an occupational hazard. Truly.

880
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 1: I hope that people who work at CVS absolutely despise them.

881
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tip CVS workers because like I would like

882
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: if I, because then maybe it would be like, look,

883
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: I know this is gonna be annoying and it's gonna

884
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: play like what song does it play when they're working?

885
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: It's like a B side pit Bull song. Yeah, so

886
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: that's bad. That's really heinous for the work there. But

887
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: if I could tip them, like a nice tip and

888
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: be like, look like nobody's happy about this, but I

889
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: have to do it, but like, hang in there, ill

890
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: be worth the journey. God, they're so fun. Their butts

891
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: are so big. Why are they're but so big? It's happy,

892
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: happy butterween Alligators don't need the help of creepy Soviet

893
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: scientists to cheek death. They do it by entering cryogenic stasis.

894
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: So have you ever wondered what happens if an alligator's

895
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: habitat freezes over? Alligators don't typically have to deal with

896
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 1: frozen waters as they live in warm areas in the South,

897
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: but they do sometimes live in North Carolina, where a

898
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: cold snap can cause the swamps to suddenly turn into

899
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: a sheet of impenetrable ice. For example, there's an alligator

900
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: preserve called Swamp Park which once froze during a cold snap.

901
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: The manager looked out and saw all these little alligator

902
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: noses sticking out of the ice and panicked, thinking they

903
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: were dead. Turns out they were just fine. They instinctively

904
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: positioned their snouts above the water so that when the

905
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: ice formed, it's sealed around their nose, so their nostrils

906
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: were sticking out of the ice. What happened is their

907
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: bodies enter a state of brumation, which is hibernation for

908
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 1: cold blooded animals. Their metabolism and heart rates slows down

909
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: to a crawl, and all they need to do is

910
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: chill out, suspended by their noses to the ice, breathe

911
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: in and out, and essentially take a deep, deep nap.

912
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: When we return, Wait, what's that I saw something? Oh no,

913
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 1: it's a ghost. We'll be right back from the spooky cock.

914
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: Now it's time for a ghost story. Did you know

915
00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: that Nashville's Belmont Hillsboro neighborhood is haunted by a goose dog,

916
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: according to the novel ghost Dogs of the South Yeah.

917
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: Ever since nineteen sixty two, there have been tales of

918
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: ghostly barking and ethereal canine encounters in the sleepy little neighborhood. Apparently,

919
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: a friendly dog who was a boxer named Preston was

920
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: accompanying tricker treaters on a Halloween night. A truck driver

921
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: didn't see the little tricker treaters on the dark streets,

922
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: but before the children were hit by the speeding truck,

923
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: Preston dove in front of the truck, pushing the tricker

924
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: treaters out of the way into safety. But Preston was

925
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: hit and flew into the air, landing into a nearby yard.

926
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: But when the horrified children ran over to check on

927
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: the dog, there was nobody to be found. Ever since then,

928
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: tricker treaters have reported hearing ghostly barks, a spectral wet

929
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: nose on their hands, or sightings of a phantom pooch.

930
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: Legend has it that Preston spirit roams the streets, gently

931
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: nudging trick or treaters out of the street to protect

932
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: them from cars and probably leaving ghostly duties on the

933
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: side walk. That's so cute. That's the cutest dogs ghost

934
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: story ever know. Also, the source I read said that

935
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: there's a lady who left out biscuits every Halloween for

936
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: the dog, just in case, just in case, in case,

937
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 1: ghost dogs eat ghost dog. I love ghost dog, ghost dog,

938
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: so I would watch that movie, I know, right. Uh,

939
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: so you know, are there real life ghost dogs? I

940
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: don't know. I'll let you be the judge. But there

941
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: are real life ghost sharks I'm in which are like

942
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 1: the puppies of the sea. So ghost sharks. These are

943
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: some spooky boys. Um. They are not actually a shark,

944
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: And I mean, are they a ghost? I don't know. Look,

945
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm not a ghost ologist. Um. They are an order

946
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: of fish known as chimera forms. I believe I pronounced

947
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 1: that correctly, which includes a number of species. Uh. They're

948
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: also known as spook fish or chimeras spooky fish. So spooky. Um.

949
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 1: So this is not to be confused with the motion

950
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: picture ghost Shark. Oh. I was about to ask, this

951
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: is my favorite movie we're talking about. Have you heard

952
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: of this movie? I have not. Um, well, it's a

953
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: supernatural horror romp um Uh. Let me first, I'm gonna

954
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: show you just some clips from this movie, because it

955
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: is peak shark movie. It's a very it's a very

956
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: good plausa. I don't think it is. I think it's

957
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: someone who looks like it. Oh, here comes the ghost shark. Done, done,

958
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: ghost shark. Oh, it's all glowy glow. It's a glowy

959
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: ghost shark. Don't anger that ghost or not. Shore people

960
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: just splashing around in the water. Here's the infamous pool

961
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: scene where teens at a pool are having a good

962
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:05,439
Speaker 1: time being teenagers. But ghost eat someone right as he's

963
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: about to do a sick cannonball. That was a quick that.

964
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a great this is a good scene. Um,

965
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: this is good for women, I think. Actually, let me

966
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: first explain some of the mythos behind behind Ghost Shark.

967
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: A shark is tortured by a fisherman and his daughter.

968
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: As the shark's dead, tortured body drifts down to the

969
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: bottom of the sea, it is resurrected as it sinks

970
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: to the bottom and lands in a supernatural underwater cave. Now,

971
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: this shark is hounngry for revenge, and revenge is a

972
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 1: fish best served cold. I like this idea a lot.

973
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,439
Speaker 1: This is a real movie. I'm this is not a bit.

974
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: This is an actual movie. You can look up and

975
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,479
Speaker 1: watch sci fi. Yeah, I think it was on sci

976
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: Fi or something. So the shark kills the fisherman and

977
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: his daughter out of venge, but then also everybody else

978
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: on the boat. And uh normally this is when the

979
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: ghost moves on, like you've settled your unfinished business. But

980
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: not Ghost Shark. Now she wants to eat the entire

981
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: seaside town of Harmony. I don't actually know the shark's gender,

982
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: but I feel like I'm just gonna say she because

983
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: this it progressive women right exactly. I'm going to offset

984
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 1: some of the gratuitous bikini shots with making the protagonists

985
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: a a woman shark love it. So with her new

986
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 1: spectral ghost shark body, she is able to teleport into

987
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: anybody of water, such as a pool, bathtubs, buckets of water,

988
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: or glasses of water, killing anyone who dares approach any

989
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: amount of water, no matter how small. Uh So, Ghost

990
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: Shark even kills someone by operating at the end of

991
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 1: a slipping slide and just chowing down. Perfect And also

992
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 1: explodes out of a person at some point. I'm not

993
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not really sure how that happened exactly.

994
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: I can see it though, yeah it So here's the

995
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: let me, I got it. It's just too good. So

996
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: here's here's the women is doing the car wash thing,

997
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing where you get get dressed

998
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: in your sexiest clothing and then you you get in

999
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: a car for five crap all over your boobs. Yeah yeah.

1000
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: And then here's here's a guy like doing some plumbing

1001
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: and then oh oh no, plumbing technically is water. So

1002
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: and he goes gets sucked up by the ghost shark.

1003
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: Here's kids on a slip and slide, which is ironically

1004
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: shark themed. And so this, this little ginger kid is

1005
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: a gonzo because now comes out of nowhere and eats

1006
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: him off the slip and slide. That was a brutal

1007
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: that um. And now, so you think you're safe with

1008
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: a bucket of water, Sorry, but no ghost shark can

1009
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: be inside a bucket of water. And they're really lingering

1010
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: on the bikini and not getting to the shark eating

1011
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: the ladies. So I'm gonna yeah, I don't know if

1012
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: the shark is a woman. If this is the p

1013
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the shark just eats everyone. The

1014
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 1: shark doesn't discriminate, just a cold blooded killer. Right. Well,

1015
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm now bored by all of the actual plot of

1016
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: the movie, but suffice it to say that shark pops

1017
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: out of a bucket and and kills a lady slip

1018
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: inside kill was terrific. That was good. That was perhaps

1019
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: the most incredible cinematography moments in film history. Yeah, that's

1020
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: going to be in the history of film that always

1021
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: shows up that iconic scene. So the mayor of this

1022
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: town is uninterested in the plucky young teens who wants

1023
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,280
Speaker 1: to solve the ghost Shark mystery as he is up

1024
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: for a re election. So the plucky teens team up

1025
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: with a grizzled, drunken lighthouse keeper. Together they solved the

1026
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: mystery of ghost Shark and finally end her reign of

1027
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: terror by laying her body to rest by blowing up

1028
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: the supernatural cave in which ghost Shark was resurrected. So

1029
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: problem solved. This is this is perhaps the best movie.

1030
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: I love this. Yeah, I'm absolutely hooked. It makes sense.

1031
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: I think we can all as in a logical progression

1032
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: of ideas and plot points. Yes, um, and the shark

1033
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: eats some kid off of a slipping slide. Like, what

1034
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 1: more do you people want? Yeah, if you want to,

1035
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, snobs. So now let's move on to the

1036
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,439
Speaker 1: real ghost shark. So deep sea fish, as I said,

1037
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 1: a chimera form. Uh. And it lives at depths of

1038
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 1: around eight thousand, five hundred feet under the sea. They

1039
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 1: grew up to about five ft long. They're not huge,

1040
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: but they are very spooky looking. So let me show

1041
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: you a video of the real ghost shark. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: Oh was cuter than I expected. Exactly right. They got

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Speaker 1: like a weird little nose, a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of fin fin action going on. Uh. And they are

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Speaker 1: they're squire, they're little jelly boys because like sharks, their

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Speaker 1: skeletons are made out of cartilage. Um. And unlike sharks,

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Speaker 1: they kind of have a retractable weiener on their foreheads.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I mean that's fun. That's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of kinky fun. Yeah. To be fair, it's not a

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Speaker 1: real weener. It's more like a retractable vibrator. Um. It's

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: it's not a functional penis, but it is used to

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01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: stimulate the female sex organs and to pull her closer.

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Speaker 1: So it's like a sex toy finger forehead, a finger

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01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: for finger, but only for pickering, right exactly. And it

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Speaker 1: looks like a spiked club. And here is a picture

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Speaker 1: of it. Oh that is phallic. Yeah, very sex toy esque. Um.

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Speaker 1: It's called scientifically, it's called a class berm, but I

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01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: like to call it a dongus because that's what it

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01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: looks like to me. Uh. They also have a venomous

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01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: spike in the dorsal fin. Just for fun, I guess

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01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: some of them also have a weird floppy snout. And now,

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Speaker 1: since they're deep sea animals, whenever you bring a deep

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01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: sea animal up to the surface, it's always gonna go

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Speaker 1: through a process of what I like to call dupification,

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Speaker 1: where they look a lot more doofy out of the

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Speaker 1: water because stuff happens to their skin because they're under

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Speaker 1: immense pressure. So when they're brought up out of that,

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Speaker 1: it's um. So here here he is, though, and it

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Speaker 1: looks pretty boy, what a saucy little kid, these guys.

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Speaker 1: He's got a floppy nose and this kind of weird

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: mouth and he looks um. He kind of just looks

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01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 1: like a dufus, just a nice guy, I know, with

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Speaker 1: the kindness and the thoughtfulness of having a dongas on

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Speaker 1: his forehead. I really yeah like us for her, for her,

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01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: for her pleasure, ribbed for her pleasure. Most species would

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01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: never I know, right. I mean, this is like a

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Speaker 1: progressive shark. This is a shark that cares if you

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01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: come or not. And that is a beautiful thing. Um.

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Speaker 1: And so you also don't really have to be worried

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01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 1: about this shark killing you, first of all, because they

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01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 1: are kind of small, and also because they mostly eat

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01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: invertebrates and shellfish and they don't really have teeth. They

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01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 1: have grinding plates that they use to crush up clams

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01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: and crabs and other small invertebrates. So they are I

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01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: like these guys sweethearts. They're sweet little they're they're just

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01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: a little bit golf. They're sweet little dongases. Yeah that's nice.

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Speaker 1: That was an uplifting line, I know, right, um, And

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01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 1: so uh now I want to talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: just to kind of close out the show about lemurs.

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Speaker 1: And the word lemur comes from the Latin word for

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: ghosts and the whole so there's not too much that

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01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: is ghostly about lemurs except for and they're very cute.

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Speaker 1: If you've seen lemurs, cute little guys. Their calls, like

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01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: their vocalizations are the creepiest sounding thing come out of

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01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: these cute, fluffy bodies. So let's start off with the

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01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 1: call of a ring tailed lemur. Yeah, it sounds like

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01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: it sounds it sounds like a horror movie sound effect,

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01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, it sounds like like if you

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01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 1: googled like scream stube or the shrieking violins and psycho.

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01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 1: Oh I benef you layered those. Yes, yes, yes, this

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01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 1: is I mean like it sounds like like Heredity, you know,

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Speaker 1: the horror movie Hereditary Heredity. Yeah. God um, And now

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01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 1: let's move on to the black and white ruffed lemur. Oh,

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01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: it just sounds like he's going to like eat your bones.

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01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: Sounds like audio glitching too, right, like some kind of

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01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 1: demon computer very seven days to Live or like the

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01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, like how that horror movie thing of like

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01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: things like you know where it's got that sound to it,

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01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 1: which but then look how cute he is. He's got

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01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: a chin beard. I know, I was like, I trust him,

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01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: but I'm like, he's he's got a dark side for sure. Right.

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Speaker 1: Um so these vocalizations are thought to be, or or

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01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: have been sort of historically thought to be, like the

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01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 1: calls of the spirits of the Island. Yeah, that's kind

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01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 1: of cool because they do sound pretty uh. I mean

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01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: these are some ordinary spirits though, I got a say. Yeah,

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01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,559
Speaker 1: and they chose the cutest possible vessels. I know, I

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01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,360
Speaker 1: give them that. It's like it's like a haunted kitten

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01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: that just goes like like, oh, but it's so cute.

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Speaker 1: I guess you can come home with me. Wow. Well

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01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: that is that's all the horror that I have for you.

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01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: It's a very haunted episode. I know, it's very spooky.

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Speaker 1: You got any you got any spooky stories, Jamie, Any

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01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: spooky stories? Um? Well no. Most of the spooky stories

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01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: were made up. And my my dad was really good

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01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: at like making up speaking stories before bed. He would

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01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: always talk about a sports editor at his paper that

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01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: didn't exist, who would cut his fingers off for missing deadlines?

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01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: Do they give you're not gonna be two hundred words

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01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: per minute, I'll remove your fabies. It was a whole

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01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 1: series of stories. Yeah, people who go mysteriously missing from

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01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: the sports department. My dad did this thing when I

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01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 1: was a little kid that freaks my little brain. It

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 1: was he got a it was like an encyclopedia or

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01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: dictionary where they had the pictures and he said, I'm

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01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 1: going to do a magic trick. I'm like, okay, sure, dad,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like five years old. And I was a

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01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: pretty you know, pretty cynical five year old, and I

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01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: didn't think necessarily that's okay, you can't do magic with

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01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 1: a dictionary. But he, uh, he got a He was like,

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01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: here's a picture of a jack rabbit. I'm like, yeah, okay,

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: sure dad. Cool cool tricked out, this is boring. Then

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01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 1: he turned the page and like, here's a picture of

1144
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 1: an antelope. And I was like, yeah, alright, cool dad.

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01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: And then he waved his hand over the book and

1146
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: he's like here here, and we're combining them with magic.

1147
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: And he opened it up to a jackalope and I

1148
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 1: was like, oh, what the hell I was? I was

1149
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: a like certain that my dad was a book sorcerer.

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01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: It freaked me out. Wow, I thought the book was haunted.

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 1: That's a very smart deception. That was a good dad troll.

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01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: That's a very good dad troll. Yes, that's off I

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 1: used to tell my brother that there was one book

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01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: in every library that if you took it off the shelf,

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01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: the whole library would explode. And so he that's actually true.

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 1: That's actually true though, Yeah, there's it's not actually that

1157
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: the library explodes, it's that there's a load bearing book

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01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: that if you remove it, the whole library collapses. Well,

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01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: my mother to this day has never read a bout. Okay,

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01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: she really helped with his education. Thank you so much

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01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: for joining me on this spooky Halloween special, Jamie, than

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01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: for having you got any you got anything a plug

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01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: other than your trking mummy? Oh, I mean check out

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 1: the twrking Mummy. Twitter dot com got flagged by t

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Speaker 1: s A last week because of the tworking Mommy. I

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: thought something was in the ass. It was they thought it?

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01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: Did they think it? They thought that there might have

1168
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: been drugs. Oh, they thought there might have been drugs

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01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 1: in the app. It is a plump as you could

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: fit drugs in it, hide something in there. So check

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Speaker 1: out the mummy and then listen to the bec del Casta,

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Speaker 1: which I co host right here on our radio with

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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: Caitlin Toronte every Thursday. Yeah, I've seen you guys around

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01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: doing things. I was sure. I wasn't really sure what

1175
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 1: you're doing in here, in this here studio. Larking around

1176
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: has to do with the dogshead. Where can people find you?

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Speaker 1: On social You can find me on Twitter at Jamie

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Speaker 1: off His Help and Instagram at Jamie christ Superstar. And

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Speaker 1: you can find us on the internet at well first

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today. If you're

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Speaker 1: I mean, but just for listening. Thank you, that's great.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Happy Halloween, stay out of traffic

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01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: or else ghost Dog Preston is gonna gonna get mad

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01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: at you sort of. He's got your back. He's got

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01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: your back, that's true. He's a friendly ghost dog. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to the Space Classics for their super spook tacular song.

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