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Maybe we need to wait to see 58 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: what exactly happens here between Baker Mayfield and Odell Beckham 59 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: Junior and Nick Jubb, although latest news sounds like certainly 60 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: Chubb is not going to be able to make it. 61 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: The Browns here are at home against the Broncos. They 62 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: are laying now three and a half points. Some books 63 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: are already at three and the total here is a 64 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: minuscool forty two and a half. What do you think 65 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: of this line? 66 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Browns are really hurting with this, and 67 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: you and I I think one of the biggest edges 68 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: you can find NFL. You know, sports betting is just 69 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: getting so much more popular these days that we all 70 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: know the Baker Mayfield injury storyline, the Nick Chubb one. 71 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: I think one of the remaining edges that you can 72 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: find for yourself, that listeners can can handle for themselves 73 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: is looking at offensive line injuries. Defensive player injuries, those 74 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: for obvious reasons, just don't get as much publicity. But 75 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: the Browns in Week six they were out, they were 76 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 2: without Jedrick Wills or Jack Conklin, So you know it's 77 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 2: not just the injuries to the skill position players that 78 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: are bothering them. And I think for most NFL teams, Dan, 79 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure you agree with this, Like if an NFL 80 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: team loses their starting left tackle, you know that's a problem, 81 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: but most teams can you know, recover for that. It's 82 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: where you get multiple two three injuries along your offensive 83 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: line that real issues start to happen. So the combination 84 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: of Baker, who is in the sling in the postgame 85 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: press conference, not having their dynamic running backs, the offensive 86 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: line being banged up. The early lean is just screaming 87 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: Broncos to me, Are you in line with me on 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 2: that or yeah? 89 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely? I think that if you're listening to this and 90 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: the line is still at three and a half, I mean, Brendan, 91 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: we were talking, I mean I think it opened. What 92 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: was it when it opened? Was it closer to five? 93 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: Is that what the opening line was? 94 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 2: I saw it at Browns minus five originally, and understandably 95 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: it's moved. 96 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. I look, there are books already that are out 97 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: there that are at three. As we said, it's at 98 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: three at Fox Bed, it's at three at Fandel. It's 99 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: still the consensus line again at three and a half, 100 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: because that's where it is at Draft Kings points. Bet 101 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: the majority of books. I would bet it immediately. You 102 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: can get it at three and a half because if 103 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: you're getting overfield goal here, even on the road with 104 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: the Broncos. I mean that the Browns are so incredibly 105 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: banged up, and you did mention it that offensive line 106 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: injuries are probably the most impactful from a betting line perspective. 107 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree that the public doesn't necessarily see 108 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: that or feel that as much. But I mean, it's 109 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: not just the fact that they don't have a running back. 110 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: It's not just the fact that bigger Mayfield may not play. 111 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: It's not just the fact that olde Beckham Jner may 112 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: not play, although those are all big factors, but it 113 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: is something where again, the offensive line was absolutely decimated, 114 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: and you know, the scheme is good enough to sort 115 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: of get around that, but not against the Broncos, who 116 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: are really good against the run. They're probably going to 117 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: be pretty angry and pumped up here. They need a 118 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: win here. They start at three and oh they're now 119 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: three and three. So I agree, if you can get 120 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: it over, you know, even getting the field goal, I'm 121 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: fine with it begetting overfield goal. I would love to 122 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: get it. Any thoughts on the total, I mean, it's 123 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: forty two and a half, so it's pretty pretty light here. 124 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: We always know that weird things happen on Thursday night. 125 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: The games just don't always play out the same way 126 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 2: they might have otherwise on a Sunday. So with that, 127 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: you know, and all the Browns injuries, they think, yeah, 128 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: grabbing the points makes sense. This is such a Thursday 129 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: night game too, just in the sense where my instant 130 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: lean is underdog and under expecting kind of a low 131 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: scoing game. Here. The Broncos and Browns have two of 132 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: the better defenses. Again, the Browns are a little banged 133 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: up all around, defensively included. But but yeah, I think 134 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: that that would be the play that I would go to. 135 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: I do know that myself and some others that I 136 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: like to make some bets with we on Thursdays often 137 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: prefer taking the underdog and under just because the games 138 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: are are always so weird and you never know how 139 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: those good to shake, so we will grab the points 140 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: in this case. 141 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. Let's go to The Falcons 142 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: are visiting the Dolphins. The Falcons are laying two and 143 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: a half points here, and the totals forty seven and 144 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: a half. The weird thing here, obviously, is that the 145 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: Dolphins declined the bye after London, so they're gonna be 146 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: a little jet lagged, I'm tureing me, while the Falcons 147 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: came off London and they are on a bye off 148 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: the bye, pardon me, so they're well rested here. Calvin 149 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: Ridley should be back for this one. What do you 150 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: think about this one where the Falcons are laying two 151 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: and a half total forty seven and a half. 152 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: We should mention ahead of time that this is it's 153 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: kind of a gross slate for NFL games this weekend. 154 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: There's not a lot. There's a six teams on a bye. 155 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: A lot of the good teams, the Bills, the Chargers, 156 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: the Cowboys aren't playing this week and this game. I 157 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: forget where I heard this, but I laughed when I did. 158 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: It feels like we've already had this game this year. 159 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: Falcons Dolphins too, obviously of the bigger underperformers this season. 160 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: I do think it's time to start criticizing this Dolphins 161 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: regime a bit. I know it's easy to do so 162 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: after they just lost to the Jaguars in London, and 163 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: it's easy to do so because they only have one 164 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: win this season. But they had so much draft capital 165 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: coming into this rebuild in some of those first round picks. 166 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: It's not just too they took some offensive linemen in 167 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: the first round in twenty twenty who aren't even active 168 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: on game days. It's just been a bit of a 169 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: disaster in that they're on their third offensive coordinator in 170 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 2: three years. You add in the fact that they are 171 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: coming off the London game and the Falcons are coming 172 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: off a buy, and I would lean Falcons in this situation. 173 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: I usually like to zig when others are zagging, and 174 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: you know, take teams coming off a loss and fade 175 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 2: teams coming off a big emotional win. But in this case, 176 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: you just add in all those factors and I can't 177 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: get away from the Falcons. 178 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think I'm probably going to stay 179 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: away from it because I do think that the Dolphins 180 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: are a little bit better than they've shown. They obviously 181 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: have been pretty banged up at receiving or I think 182 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: to help them offensively for sure, But I just I 183 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: don't think I can fully factor in what it's like 184 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: to come off London and come off a bad loss 185 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: to a Jaguars team and then come back to the 186 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: States and play a well rested Falcons team who again 187 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: isn't quite as bad as they look sort of early 188 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: on in the year where I think everybody was burying them. 189 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: So I think it's probably a game that I'm gonna avoid. 190 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: I actually could see teasing up the Dolphins in a 191 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: two team teaser two eight and a half points, getting 192 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: them over both crossing both key numbers here. But as 193 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: a regular bet, I think I'm just gonna stay away 194 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: from it. But I think if you have to go 195 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: one way, you'd probably go to Falcons, just because again, 196 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: coming off the by, I just don't think that you 197 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: can possibly back the Dolphins at you know, getting less 198 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: than a field goal here. How about Washington now is 199 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: visiting Green Bay. The Packers are currently laying nine and 200 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: a half points and the total is forty eight and 201 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: a half. What do you think? 202 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 2: There are some big spread this week? This is obviously 203 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: one of them. And with the big spreads a lot 204 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: of time, I like to take the points. You know, 205 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: NFL teams are usually closer in competition than the general 206 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 2: public gives them credit for it. This is one where 207 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 2: I would lean the Packers early, and it's part of 208 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 2: it is just really a bet against Washington because it's 209 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: you know, it's no secret their defense has been one 210 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: of the more disappointing units in all of football this season. 211 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: That's a saying that we're hearing a lot lately, and 212 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: it's not just that, It's not just that they don't 213 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: know the talent like their d line is one of 214 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 2: the most talented in the NFL. It's that they don't 215 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: do anything with that talent. They don't run stunts, they 216 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: don't design coverages, and their secondary is just really easy 217 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: to attack. You remember early in the season, the Bills 218 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: offense were struggling. Josh Allen himself was struggling, but heading 219 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: into that Washington game, a lot of people thought it 220 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 2: was a good bounce back spot because Washington's defense, they 221 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: just they play really static. They rush their four passers 222 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,719 Speaker 2: and they sit back and teams, smart teams and good 223 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: quarterbacks can figure it out. And on the other side 224 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: of the ball this week, it's going to be Amon 225 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: Rodgers and DeVante Adams and Matt Lafleur and all those guys. 226 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: So I think this is one where the Packers can 227 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: lay the hammer a bit. I know it's not the Bears, 228 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: but I still expect Rodgers to own them in this one. Yeah. 229 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: I do lean the Packers here as long as it's 230 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: single digits basically, which it is right now. Washington just 231 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: looks like it's kind of in disarray right now. The 232 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: whole team the whole year has kind of just looked unsettled, 233 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: and we mentioned every week on the show. Basically the 234 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: defense and how badly it's underperformed is one of the 235 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: biggest surprises to me as somebody who obviously dives deep, 236 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: not only on a betting side, but from a fantasy standpoint, 237 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: you know, when we get into the season and makes 238 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: projections and everything like that. I'm just I'm shocked with 239 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: how poor the defense is played overall. So you certainly 240 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: could see Aaron Rodgers here carving them up and again, 241 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: given how they performed against Kansas City, given how Taylor 242 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: Heineg's coming back down to Earth, Antonio Gibson is banged up, 243 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: he may not be able to play. Even Terry McLaurin 244 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: coming into the game, They're just it's just a team 245 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: that feels like you want to fade right now. So 246 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,839 Speaker 1: as long as you can get it under ten, I 247 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if it hits ten, by the way, 248 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: because I think this seems like a game where the 249 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: public's probably going to back the Packers here. Under ten, 250 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: then you'll eventually get some resistance. But I wouldn't be 251 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: surprised if it moved up a little bit. So if 252 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: you do like it for me, I would probably hit it. Now, 253 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: let's get to a pretty big here divisional game. You've 254 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: got the Ravens taking on the Bengals in Baltimore. The 255 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Ravens are laying six and a half, the totals forty 256 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: seven and a half. What do you think. 257 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so with the big Bengals and the Ravens, we 258 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: obviously normally think of the AFC North, as you know, 259 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: very tough, run the ball, defense minded football. This season, 260 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: the Bengals and the Ravens are two of the highest 261 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: neutral pass rated teams of the season, meaning that in 262 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: neutral gamescrips, they are a liking to throw the ball. 263 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is dropping back to throw more than he 264 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: ever has in his career. But what the Bengals are 265 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: trying to do this season and the teams with Joe 266 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: Mixon healthy, is really, you know, take some pressure off 267 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 2: the offensive line. I've been pretty impressed with Zach Taylor 268 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: so far this year. I think a lot of us, 269 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: especially like you said in the Fantasy World, kind of 270 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: expected the Bengals to come out and just throw and 271 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: chuck and have no regard for the offensive line. They're 272 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: trying to establish a run game, but it seems like 273 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: they do really want to lean on Mixing when he's healthy. 274 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 2: He is healthy in this one. AFC North the spread, 275 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: I'm not positive what to do with it, but I 276 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: do lean the under with these two. 277 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just a game I don't really want 278 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: to touch at this point. I hate over unders. It's stupid, 279 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: I guess, and it's simplistic, but I really hate over 280 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: unders with the Ravens. I just do because you know, 281 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: at any given time, no matter what, they could look 282 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: totally under control. And you know, I think back to 283 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,719 Speaker 1: the Monday night game, you know, where they eventually won 284 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: in overtime, and how to stagnant their offense looked in 285 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: the first half against the Colts, and then they just 286 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: went absolutely in the second half, which I think they're 287 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: able to do at any given time. So this is 288 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: really something where I don't have a great feel for it. 289 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: I think if I had to go somewhere with the spread, 290 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I would probably lean the Ravens. I have not fully 291 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: bought into the Bengals yet, as impressive as obviously they 292 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: were against I don't know whatever you want to call 293 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: the Lions team from last week, but I'm probably staying 294 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: away from it. I think right now, what about the 295 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Patriots at home taking on the Jets. Patriots laying seven, 296 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: the total is forty two and a half. Patriots coming 297 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: off a really really devastating loss here, a game that 298 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: looked like they were going to at least be able 299 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: to win. Certainly betters are are burned by it, the 300 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: betters who had both the under and the Patriots there 301 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: last week. So lank seven forty two and a half 302 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: in New England. 303 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we like to joke about you, you know, 304 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: being a little bit of an on air pully whenever 305 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 2: I'm around on a pod. But this is I think 306 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: where I get you back, because, as you know, listeners 307 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: know you are a Jets fan, and I'm coming in 308 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: here as a Patriots fan. My team is face. Did 309 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: you say the spread for this one? I think I 310 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: saw it at minus seven? 311 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, at seven? 312 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah. So, first of all, the story of the 313 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: Patriots season has just been Mac Jones, that the team 314 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: has seemingly found their quarterback. I think Mac against the 315 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: Cowboys this past Sunday was the best game I've seen 316 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: by a rookie quarterback of any of the six rookie 317 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: quarterbacks so far this season. I think the Patriots being 318 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: zero to four at home is not something that necessarily 319 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: should factor into Better's minds. But it's just like this 320 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: Patriots team is not what it once was. Of course 321 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: we know that. I don't think it's dropped or their 322 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: stature within the league has dropped low enough to the 323 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: point where they aren't going to take care of business 324 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: against the Jets. This is the second time we've seen 325 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: these two teams play. I know that Zach Wilson and 326 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: Robert Sala and company are coming off a buye, but 327 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: this is a spot even with the seven points. And 328 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: I don't love huge spreads when the team doesn't have 329 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: a lot of offensive firepower because they might not be 330 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: able to, you know, really extend those leads. But given 331 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: everything we've seen from the Patriots this year, it's just 332 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: such a get right spot for them. I know they 333 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: struggled against the Texans on the road. This is just 334 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: it feels a little different now that it's at home 335 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: and the Pats have had a tough schedule and they've 336 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: gotten some of these games out of their way. So 337 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 2: iilean PATRIOTSY. I know you might criticize me for calling 338 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 2: it a bit of a homer pick, But what say 339 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 2: you about your Jets? 340 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: Ah, I don't really have a good lean on it. 341 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: If it gets too over a touchdown, I will probably 342 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: find the value with the Jets, and I think in 343 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: a vacuum, if you take a step back, this strikes 344 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: me as probably a spot where more quote unquote sharp 345 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: betters are going to be on the Jets. I know 346 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots beat up on the Jets earlier in the year, 347 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: but it's a little bit of a different team. I 348 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: think the Jets, not that they're playing well or anything 349 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: like that, but they're at least a little healthier here 350 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: that get to come off a bye. The Patriots played 351 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: a really tough overtime game. They're probably a little tired 352 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: right now. And really the Patriots just they're not explosive. 353 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: They don't have the horses. And again, they hung with 354 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys absolutely as kind of I expected, and they 355 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: find a way to hang with teams, you know, like 356 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: the Bucks, where they're expected to get blown out, but 357 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: they really haven't played that great against teams that they're 358 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: expected to dominate. So it's probably a stay away for 359 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: me here at seven. If it gets to over seven. 360 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: I probably will take the Jets here coming off the buye, 361 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: but I doubt i'd take the Patriot Like I'm just 362 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: not interested in backing the Patriots team right here with 363 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: anything like a big spread. And we talked, I mean 364 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned it. There are a lot of expreads this week. 365 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: So if you like underdog betting, which you know probably 366 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: the quote unquote sharp side is going to be taking 367 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the underdogs, this is your week. I'm 368 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: not sure it's your week here with the Panthers though, 369 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: visiting the Giants. The Panthers are laying three here. Total 370 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: is forty three. A lot of low totals in these games, 371 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: which again you mentioned it, this is not the most 372 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: exciting week of football games. Actually, with so many teams 373 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: on buy, a lot of the matchups are kind of disappointing. 374 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: But look, the Panthers are coming in here. They somehow 375 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: made a game of that against the Vikings, even though 376 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: they look like they were about to get completely blown out. 377 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: The Giants got demolished by the Rams. You know, felt 378 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: kind of bad for them, frankly. They are dealing with 379 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: offensive line injuries, they are dealing with injuries to their 380 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: receiving corps, not sure who's going to be healthy here, 381 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: Giants getting three at home with the total at forty three. 382 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: What do you think? 383 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I think the Giants is a little bit 384 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: of a similar situation to the Browns, where there's just 385 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: like so many injuries that we need to wait and 386 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 2: see a little later in the week, who exactly is 387 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 2: going to be playing, especially among their receivers, and if 388 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: Sakwan Barkley is going to be back. But in general, 389 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: this game and this game just comes down to two 390 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: teams that one team I like what they're doing overall 391 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 2: as a franchise, and one that I don't like backing 392 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: or like trusting. The Panthers. They are coming off three 393 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: straight losses and they've just they've just been doing a 394 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 2: really lot of smart things the past few years. I 395 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 2: think they've added a lot of defensive talent over their 396 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 2: past three drafts. Brian Burns, Derek Brown, Jeremy Chin, and 397 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 2: then J. C. Horn this year before he got hurt, 398 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: he got he went down, they instantly traded for CJ. Henderson. 399 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: They traded for Stefan Gilmore, and I think Gilmore has 400 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: a chance to play in this one. 401 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: Yep. 402 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: Not saying that that might swing you know, the line 403 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: anything more than like a you know, half a point 404 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: or something like that, but it is just something notable, 405 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: And in general, I do like what the Panthers do 406 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: as a franchise, whereas the Giants, I just don't love 407 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: backing Jason Garrett organizations or teams that have anything to 408 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: do with Jason Garrett. I just don't trust them to 409 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: make the optimal decision at times. So I'm going to 410 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 2: go to the Panthers taking the small favorite here coming 411 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: off the three straight losses and the Giants just dealing 412 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: with everything that they're dealing with injury was. 413 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in a total agreement on this one. So 414 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: it's three is a consensus line over at betting bros 415 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: dot com. It is three at the majority of books, 416 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: but there are a couple of two and a half's 417 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: out there. So if you can get it at five, 418 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: bet at points, bet at a couple other places here 419 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: that I'm looking at, I would hit that certainly at 420 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: two and a half, but even at three, I agree. 421 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I you know the Panthers now, I mean 422 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: you see what they look like when you know they 423 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: have to face a little higher end competition, and they've 424 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: got no Christian McCaffrey, and they've had injuries you mentioned Horn. 425 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 1: Obviously they may be getting a little bit here of 426 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: help coming in, but I still think that the disparity 427 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: between these two teams, it's just it's too great at 428 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: this point to you know, be thinking about backing the 429 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: Giants at a field goal or less here if it 430 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: moves beyond that, maybe because the Giants have a way 431 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: of sort of surprising you not often as home, and 432 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: you know about you know, Daniel Jones's record here at 433 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: home when it comes to covering the spread, it is 434 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: not great as much better on the road. You can 435 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: write that off as narrative, but I think that there 436 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: is actually something to it. And the crowd is pretty 437 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: much abandoning them, so the home field advantage does not 438 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: mean all that much. So I do lean the Panthers here. 439 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: I'd hit it three. I'd probably hit it even if 440 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: it gets over field goal at this point, but certainly 441 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: it's two and a half at a couple of bucks, 442 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: and I would run to do that if I could. 443 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: This is a big one. Now. After this Monday night game, 444 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are visiting the Titans. The Chiefs are laying 445 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: four and a half, and the total here is a 446 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: whopping fifty six and a half. Big wins here for 447 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: both these teams. I mean, the Chiefs kind of had 448 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: a walk in the park against Washington, but they needed 449 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: to get right game. They finally covered a spread, which 450 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: rarely happens for them. The Titans come through here in 451 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: a game on Monday Night football against the Bills. They 452 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: suffer some injuries through it. It sounds you know, I 453 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: don't know how serious h Leo Jones's hamstring is, but 454 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 1: you know, I'd be surprised at this point if he 455 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: suits up on Sunday and there are coming off a 456 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: short week in a hard fought game. So what do 457 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: you think here about the Chiefs visiting and a crazy 458 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: total of fifty six and a half. 459 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: It's funny. I almost wish I would feel a lot 460 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: better about the Titans if they didn't just have that, 461 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 2: you know, huge emotional, exciting win on Monday Night. You know, 462 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: now it's going to be a short week for them too, 463 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: just because of what we talked about early on a 464 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 2: lot of times with betting, you know, the public has 465 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 2: such short memories it's a lot about you know, fading 466 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 2: teams coming off the big wins and you know, buying 467 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: in on good teams that we know are good that 468 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: might have had a disappointing week. So all that being said, though, 469 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: then on the other side, we have this Chief situation 470 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: where there's been a lot and I know they kind 471 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: of got right a bit against Washington, although that game 472 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: was close for a little But there's so much talk 473 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: right now about the Chiefs struggling offense, and really, when 474 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: you look down at it, though, it's just about turnovers. 475 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: It's not that they're struggling to move the ball at all. 476 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: They have nine turnovers within the opponent's forty yard line. 477 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: It almost feels sometimes that they're just playing backyard football, 478 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: that they're you know, not as focused as they maybe 479 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: should be because they've been to the big game two 480 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: years in a row now and they just you know, 481 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: the regular season doesn't mean as much for them. But 482 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: they're averaging an NFL high three point two points per drive, 483 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: so they can move the ball. It's just about not 484 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: turning it over. The Titans, meanwhile, we know what they 485 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: want to do is established to run with Derrick Henry 486 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: and the Chief's defense is so horrible. In their last 487 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: game against Washington, Washington's O line graded out by PFF 488 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,120 Speaker 2: as the best O line of the week, and I think, 489 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: you know a big part of that was playing against 490 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. So I think this is the classic case 491 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: where you have the home dog. The Titan strength plays 492 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: into the Chief's weakness. The public is usually going to 493 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: be on the Chiefs. You just add it all up. 494 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: And the Titans, even though they're coming off the big 495 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 2: emotional win, and I weirdly don't love that. I still 496 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: like the Titans in the spot. Everything else about my 497 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 2: process points me in their direction. 498 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't know. The Times are not a 499 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: good football team, and I mean they're not a terrible 500 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: football team or anything like that. I love the Times. 501 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: I back them all the time, and I back them, 502 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, against the Bills here because I just think 503 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: that their hole is greater than the sum of their parts. 504 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: And probably Derrick Henry covers up a lot of ills. 505 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: I mean, their secondary is terrible, and they again they 506 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: have more injuries here after this game. They probably should 507 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: make a trade, but that's something not here or there. 508 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: I think I might use this as a teaser piece here. 509 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: I think I could see this as a game where 510 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: I pushed the Titans up six, get it over ten 511 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: because again, the biggest thing with the Titan it's like 512 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is not human and even off a short week, 513 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter his workloads, Like you can just run 514 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: and run and run, and that is what they're going 515 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: to try to do and control the clock and everything 516 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: like that. Aj Brown thankfully looked healthy. No more food 517 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: poisoning at the very least. So it is something where 518 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: I like that I kind of lean the under a 519 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: little bit. It's just the numbers so high too, Like 520 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: I get that, it's you know, you know, the Chiefs 521 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: can score on anybody and they can put up whatever 522 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: you want. Obviously came in with the under in the 523 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: last game. Both these teams can put up points. But 524 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: I lean under a little bit. Fifty six and a 525 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: half is just I mean, it's just it's silly, you know, 526 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: at this point, and not that it's wrong, but it 527 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: just seems silly. And I know public loves the over, 528 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: so their lines are inflated a little bit. But I 529 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: probably lean under. But it's not something where at four 530 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: and a half again because it's an emotional spot, as 531 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned, and because they're coming off the short week 532 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: and the Jefs are still pretty desperate for a win 533 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: here so they can keep up with the division leaders. 534 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm just probably I'm only going to do it as 535 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: a teaser piece. I'm not going to touch it here 536 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: at that kind of dead number. What about the Eagles, 537 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: who I back routinely for absolutely no reason, getting three 538 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: here visiting Las Vegas with the Raiders a total at 539 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: forty nine. 540 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: So I didn't touch the Raiders Broncos game in Week six, 541 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 2: and part of that was just, you know, coming off 542 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: the whole Grooden situation, I didn't know how the Raiders 543 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: would respond. I thought it was such a huge factor though, 544 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: that it could go one way or the other. Either 545 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 2: the team is demoralized and you know, they just lay 546 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: an egg, or they play really fired up and inspired 547 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: and they play really well. And that's what happened, is 548 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: the latter situation. Now, the question is will that last? 549 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 2: Was that a one week thing for them, or is 550 00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: this going to be, you know, the new Raiders and 551 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 2: that we can buy back into them similar to how 552 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 2: we were during the first three weeks of the season. 553 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: One little note that I found studying this game is 554 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 2: that Derek Carr has been great against zone defenses this 555 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: year and that the Eagles play some of the least 556 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: amount of man in the NFL, so that would be 557 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: another reason to go in the direction of the Raiders. This, again, 558 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: just the whole Vegas situation for me, is the biggest 559 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 2: stay away in football right now. So I think a 560 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: lot of it comes down to your feel on the Raider, 561 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: and that's you know, I'm definitely you and I both 562 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: know more analytically minded guys, so we don't typically bet 563 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: off things like feel in that. But I think that 564 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 2: this is what it comes down to, and that's why 565 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily trust my numbers on it. I'd picked 566 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: the Raiders if I had to because about that note 567 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: about Car against zone defenses, but I just cannot overlook 568 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: the coaching factor and what that might do to this game. 569 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't want anything to do with this game as 570 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: of right now. Now. It's funny because sometimes I say 571 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: that on a Monday or Tuesday, and then I dive 572 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: into it. I usually what just you guys know when 573 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: you were listening, because I mean, we do our best 574 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: bet Show on Thursday, and I generally I don't know 575 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: what I'm like nine to three or something over the 576 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: last four weeks because I take a lot of time. 577 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: On Wednesday is when I really kind of dig into 578 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: everything as best I can, and then on Thursday as well, 579 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: depending on when we record before I kind of reach 580 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: my final consensus on it. So sometimes I have a 581 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: feeling early on in the week and then I get 582 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: to a different point later on the week. But I 583 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: can't imagine I'm going to want anything to do with 584 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: this game again. The Raiders like fantastic a great win 585 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 1: over the Broncos. They dominated that game. That's great, But 586 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: is this now a letdown spot? And the Eagles, who 587 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: I think are so much better than what we have 588 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: seen from them, and so I always sort of lean 589 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: towards wanting to back them, and I back them against 590 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: the Bucks and that wound up working out, although it 591 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: was pretty ugly. I just can't trust the coaching staff 592 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: right now, Like I'm not impressed at all with what 593 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni has done. And again, you know, I'm hopeful 594 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: that the Eagles sort of understand that they need to 595 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: run the ball now more you saw them have success 596 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: here with Miles Sanders. That is where the Raiders are 597 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: a little more vulnerable than through the air. But man, 598 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: this is just a game I'm going to stay away from, 599 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: which I don't mind it all. You can stay out 600 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: a game, that is what I'm going to do here. Brandon, 601 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: you said you really really don't like these giant spreads, 602 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: and we've got several of them. So let's just start 603 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: off with the Lions visiting the Rams fourteen and a 604 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: half points. The total is fifty and a half. Are 605 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,959 Speaker 1: you willing to you know, take an underdog getting more 606 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: than two touchdowns here with the Lions or what? 607 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: So? Yeah, just looking at my show notes here, and 608 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: we're moving for listeners who are following along, We've moved 609 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: on to the four five, four to twenty five pm 610 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: Eastern time games, and this is where all the huge 611 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: spreads are. So a lot of the public, I know, 612 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: will you know, do teasers and parlays around you know 613 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: what time the games are at, so they'll do a 614 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: one o'clock parlay, a four o'clock parlay. Because of that, 615 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: with all the huge spreads in the late afternoon slay, 616 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: I think we could see some really interesting teasers coming 617 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: from all of these. Now, this isn't the one of 618 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 2: the three that I want to take the underdog in. 619 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a sec. But my note 620 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: for this game is, you know, the Rams their thing 621 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: with their offense right now, especially for fantasy. We know 622 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 2: that they score a lot of points and that they 623 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: have a great offense, but they don't, you know, run 624 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: a million plays a game. They're not trying to generate 625 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: offense by pure volume. It's just that they're playing so 626 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: efficiently right now. I mean, it's one of those things 627 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: that before the season, this is a prediction that I 628 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 2: know I had a lot of people had, but it 629 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: just worked out the way you expected. It's, oh, you 630 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: take Sean McVay and you take away Jared Goff, and 631 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: you're putting Matthew Stafford, and the offense is going to 632 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,239 Speaker 2: look a lot better. It's exactly what happened. We can 633 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 2: all feel good about how that worked out. You know, 634 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: that doesn't always happen with our preseason takes, especially when 635 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: it comes to fantasy football. But so you add that in. 636 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: This is the Jared Goff ball, by the way, he 637 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: is going to play against the Rams. So there's that 638 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: name revenge game. 639 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: Man, let's go. 640 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would lead the Rams. This one is 641 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: to stay away for me of the bunch, just because 642 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 2: just because with the Rams, I don't know if the 643 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: number of plays that they're gonna run is gonna lead 644 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: them to, you know, extending that huge lead. 645 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: I have no interest in this game. Like I again, 646 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: when you get to spread this big, it's nuts. It's 647 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: almost impossible to back the favorite. And what's funny, Brendan 648 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: is that before this last game against the Bengals, sort 649 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: of the whole narrative on the Lions. I like the 650 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: Lions getting three and a half. I didn't bet it, 651 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: but I liked it more against the Bengals because they 652 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: fight right, they fight with Dan Campbell, they put up 653 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: they keep things close or they'll come back at the 654 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: end of the game. And then they got completely blown 655 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: out against the Bengals. So the bottom line is just 656 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: like there's such a disparity in talent level on these 657 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: teams every which way. I mean, I think if you 658 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: had to, the Rams could put up fifty points by 659 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: themselves if they wanted to write, if they were like, 660 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: you know what, we just got to keep our foot 661 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: on the gas. We're gonna go crazy here. The lines 662 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: would have, you know, difficulty putting up points. If I 663 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: had to go one way, I'd probably go with a 664 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: favorite over fourteen and a half. And again that's just 665 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: the consensus line, and that is where it is at 666 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: most books. You go to a Fox, bet it's fifteen. 667 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: You go to Fandle or bet mgm, it's fifteen and 668 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: a half. Like, it's just nuts for me at this point, 669 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: But I don't care, Like I'll stay away and my 670 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: guess is not getting down to fourteen. So I don't 671 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: think you have to rush to bet this wherever you 672 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: are because it really doesn't matter at this point. But yeah, 673 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: this is just crazy, as is the next game, which 674 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: is the Texans visiting the Cardinals. The Cardinals are laying 675 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: a tidy seventeen points in this game. The total is 676 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: forty seven, So, Tuma, what do you think about this one? 677 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? These are just getting insane. I think the biggest 678 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 2: thing to note Tyron Taylor with his hamstring injury. It 679 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: doesn't look like he'll be back to this one, which 680 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: will mean another week of Davis Miles. When it comes 681 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: to these really big spreads, I think the thing you 682 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: want to look at is the defense, because we know 683 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: for a team to you know, get out your big league, 684 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 2: they probably need to have some sort of explosive offense 685 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: or at least, you know, an effective offense, which we 686 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: know that the Cardinals do with Kyler Murray. But I 687 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: think the thing about Arizona is that over the past 688 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: few years the defensive efficiency has improved ever since you know, 689 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury got there, advanced Joseph as the defensive coordinator. 690 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: What this means, though, is that they can hold leads. 691 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: It's not like a chief situation where they can get 692 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: out to these big leads and then the defense is 693 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 2: just gonna let the other team right back in it, 694 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: which allows way back to a cover. Is the Cardinals 695 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 2: defense is surprisingly good enough to the point where I 696 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: could see them holding down this lead again. This spread 697 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: is we'll still get to my favorite one of it 698 00:31:59,160 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: still isn't kind. 699 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: Of Oh we haven't even gotten to your favorites by 700 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: of the week. 701 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: No, we haven't yet. Oh my goodness's going to be 702 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: coming up next again. This is another situation where I 703 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: lean Cardinals because I believe that that defense can hold 704 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: onto the big lead, but man, it is terrifying to 705 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: take a minus seventeen. 706 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: I think I could do it Brendan like again here. 707 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if people have followed me, they know, like, 708 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm not often interested in taking these giant spreads on 709 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: either side, just because it's so silly to do it, 710 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: and I certainly don't want to take a favorite almost 711 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: ever with these times. Again, I would take the Rams 712 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: if I had to go one way and another, because 713 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: the potential for back to our cover is just always there. 714 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 1: Something flukey can happen, and you mentioned it right from 715 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: the start. These are NFL teams, like they're all NFL teams. 716 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: They're the you know, elite athletes of the elite athletes, 717 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: So having these giant spreads is really something that's crazy 718 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: to me. If I had to go somewhere here, I 719 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: probably would take the Textan just because I think that 720 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: they're probably able to put up enough of a fight offensively. 721 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: It's not great. I don't expect to Hoteller to be back, 722 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: but if you know, if the Cardinals take their foot 723 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: off the gas a little bit here that they would 724 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: you know, the Texans would be able to get it 725 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: back to their cover. But it's just not something where 726 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm going I want to go anywhere near. I don't 727 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 1: care where the line moves. But all I really care 728 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: about is getting into your favorite spread. Please tell me 729 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: that it involves the Bears visiting the Bucks and the 730 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: Bear is getting thirteen points and or the total of 731 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: forty seven and a half. 732 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: It does. And I'm scared to say this on air 733 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: to back Matt Maggie led team as my favorite spread 734 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: of the week, But I do like the Bears in 735 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 2: this situation. And it's again going off what I was 736 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: just talking about with the Cardinals and being able to 737 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: hold onto that big lead. That's not what this Bucks 738 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 2: defense is able to do right now. They were having 739 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: major issues in the secondary. They brought in Richard Sherman 740 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: and now he's hurt as well. So right now the 741 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: Bucks defense. You know, we all expect the Bucks to 742 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 2: put up points here, obviously, but I don't necessarily. I 743 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: don't feel like I can count on them to hold 744 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: that lead. Now, if you told me that the Bears 745 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 2: were going to come out and that they were going 746 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 2: to run that Cowboys game, remember Week one, the Cowboys, 747 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: they just didn't even bother running Zeke. They would just 748 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 2: throw a throw throw, which, as we've learned, is the 749 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 2: way to attack the Bucks. If you told me that 750 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: they were going to lead into that strategy, I would 751 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: love this bet so much. Even more, I oddly feel 752 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 2: like I can't trust the Bears coaching staff right now 753 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 2: to do that. And I can see, you know, them 754 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 2: more so, wanting to take pressure off their offensive line, 755 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 2: take pressure off their rookie quarterback by trying just to 756 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: run into an absolute brick wall that's the Bucks d line. 757 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 2: But I do think you know, I don't think you know, 758 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: in sports gambling we should necessarily try to predict what 759 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 2: the coaches will do in that situation. I think we 760 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: should just look where the edges are and the Bears 761 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: passing game, I think justin Fields is getting a little 762 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: more comfortable. Betters might not want a bet on him 763 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: because he hasn't erupted just yet, but this as good 764 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: of a spot as long as the Bears a line 765 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: can protect him for you know, at least a few 766 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 2: seconds to get the ball out and expose that secondary. 767 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: And you know, this is the exact type game where 768 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: I think the odds for a backdoor cover are higher 769 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: than in the either the rams or the cardinal spreads. 770 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: You know, I actually like in this game. I like 771 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,959 Speaker 1: the over. That's where I would lean and I would 772 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: bet it. Now, there is a forty seven, you know 773 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: there it's between forty seven forty and forty seven and 774 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: a half. So if you're out of forty seven and 775 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,919 Speaker 1: a half, you want to wait for forty seven, that's fine. 776 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: But to me, I agree with a lot of what 777 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: you're saying. But I think to me that says more 778 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: of the over rather than the Bears being able to cover. Now, 779 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,800 Speaker 1: I know the Bears have a solid defense and everything 780 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: like that, and they don't put up a ton of 781 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: points or anything like that. I was I don't want 782 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: to use the word impressed because I think that's too much, 783 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: but I was less unimpressed with Justin Fields last week, 784 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: you know again, and they he had a career high 785 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: at least in pass attempts and completely and I think 786 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: that you know, he has an arm. You can push 787 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: the ball down the field a little bit. With Darnell 788 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: Mooney in this game, so I think, you know, with 789 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: him being a running quarterback, not that it did Jalen 790 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: Hurts all that much, but that you know, they were 791 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: able in the end to put up points here, this 792 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: does strike me as a game where both teams are 793 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: going to be able to put up points and the 794 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: Bears are going to be able to put up more points. 795 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: And I think most people expect here with this game. 796 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 1: And I do think i'd lean the over here at 797 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 1: forty seven and a half. Again, I'm not really taking 798 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: I just don't want to go with the spread here 799 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: at this point. It sounds like you like it at thirteen. 800 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: What if it drops? Does it matter? Brendan? I mean, 801 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: you know it's obviously under two touchdowns. Do you care 802 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: about whether or not it's thirteen, twelve, twelve and a 803 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: half anything like that? Are you just good with it 804 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: basically at around that level? 805 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: I do agree with you that the over is, you know, 806 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 2: the other play in this game, that if that's your 807 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 2: belief of how this game is going to go, that 808 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 2: I'm fine with betting that. Yeah. I would. I would 809 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: take the Bears if it went down to twelve and 810 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 2: a half. I do think we want to be priced 811 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: sensitive and not just take them at no matter what 812 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 2: the number is. But with these three huge spreads in 813 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: the four o'clock games, at least in the Eastern time zone. 814 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 2: I do think that there's something about Vegas is building 815 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: in a couple extra points towards the favorites. They just 816 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: don't want to get, you know, crushed on the favorites covering. 817 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 2: So I almost feel like we're almost with all these 818 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 2: games getting you know, just tacking on you know, who 819 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: knows how many one and a half, two, two and 820 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 2: a half points to each of these spreads, because Vegas 821 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: needs to somehow find a way to get the public 822 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 2: to bet on these bad teams. And I think, you know, 823 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: of the three of them, the Bears is definitely the 824 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 2: one that I would want to attack the most. 825 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: All right, here's one of my favorite games of the weekend, 826 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: so I'm interested to hear what you think. It's Sunday 827 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: Night Football. It is the Colts visiting the forty nine 828 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: Ers off of by The Colts are getting three and 829 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: a half points here. It's pretty much universal across every book. 830 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: The total is forty five. You've obviously got the forty 831 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: nine ers coming off the buy here. It sounds like 832 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: it's going to be Jimmy Garoppolo. The Colts put up 833 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: a big win over the Texans as they needed to 834 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: do coming off that horrific loss against the Ravens, they 835 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: have some injuries. Of course, Paris Campbell's probably going to 836 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: miss this game here with his foot injury. You've also 837 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: got Ty Hilton maybe going to miss the game with 838 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: his quad injuries. So do you have any feelings on 839 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: this one? The forty nine Ers laying three and a 840 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: half total forty five. 841 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the forty nine Ers, And I think 842 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan is just one of the most interesting coaches 843 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 2: in football because I think when it comes to you know, 844 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: general team building and maybe some in game management stuff, 845 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: he's definitely extremely questionable and probably a bit overrated. But 846 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 2: just as a pure play caller, I think, you know, 847 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 2: he might be the best offense, the best quote unquote 848 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator in the league. And I almost think that 849 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 2: would be you know, his perfect role moving forward. But 850 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 2: so for him to come off a bye and have 851 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 2: you know, just two weeks to prepare, you know, all 852 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 2: the plays that he wants to draw up to attack 853 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: this Colts defense, I am interested in that. And I 854 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 2: think the other thing is, you know, the public might 855 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 2: be willing to go in on the Colts a little 856 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: bit more because of how well they played, I'll bite 857 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: it coming against the Texans. One note is that Wentz 858 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: earned the highest single game PFF grade of his career 859 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 2: last week, which is really surprising considering, you know, some 860 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: of the highs he had with the Eagles. But I 861 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: think the thing with that game is is that it 862 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 2: was perfect conditions. And I think that's where where we're 863 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 2: at with Wentz. That if he has all the time 864 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: in the world to throw the ball with good offensive 865 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: line playing, he's playing against a bad defense, you know, 866 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: he can look still pretty formidable. But you know, going 867 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 2: on the road on Sunday night, coming off the Texans 868 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: game into San Francisco, I don't think that these conditions 869 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: will be nearly as good for him. And again, just 870 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: you know Shanahan coming off of bye, I'm going to 871 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: try to trust the play caller in him. In general 872 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 2: for season long stuff, I do think, you know, I 873 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 2: tend to shy away from a lot of forty nine 874 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 2: ers things because of the questions I brought up. But 875 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 2: you know, for this one game, I do like the 876 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 2: forty nine ers here. 877 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm on the other side. I get 878 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: that it's Sunday night football, and I get that the 879 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: forty nine ers are off the bye. Everything you said 880 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: is true, I just don't I think there are two sides, 881 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,879 Speaker 1: So number one, I don't trust the forty nine ers 882 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: offense right now, and I think it's going to be 883 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, which I don't know if it's a good 884 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,320 Speaker 1: thing or a bad thing for whatever they have. Obviously, 885 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: Lance was exciting but made a lot of mistakes. But 886 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: they could have very easily beaten the Cardinals in that game. 887 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: But they don't have George Kittle. I think that really 888 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: hurts when you've got Jimmy Garoppolo. 889 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 2: You know. 890 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: Again, Elijah Mitchell is fine, but the running back situation 891 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: is not exactly. They don't have you know, Rehemoster back there, 892 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: which does make a difference. Brandon a Yuk has been 893 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: completely irrelevant this year. It's all Deebo Samuel. And conversely, 894 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 1: I think the Colts are finding their footing a little bit, 895 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: and I think, to be as fair as possible, a 896 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: lot of it is just Carson Wentz being healthy now, 897 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: and again, Wentz was horrific last year in Philadelphia, and 898 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: I think almost all of that had to do with 899 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: the fact that once that offensive line was terrible and 900 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: he was pressured pretty much every time he dropped back, 901 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: he got in his own head. He couldn't get out 902 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: of it. The offensive line for the Colts, I mean, 903 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: they've been banged up, they've had their issues, but they're 904 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: you know, you know, five hundred percent better than what 905 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 1: we saw last year from the Philadelphia offensive line. I 906 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: think that's given him a little bit of confidence. And again, 907 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: yeah it was against the Texans, but Brendan he played 908 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: very well against the Ravens too on the road in 909 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,439 Speaker 1: that game. So you know, I think for me, I'm 910 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: starting to more come to the table here a little 911 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: bit with now Wentz getting healthier, with having more time 912 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: in Frank Reich's system and everything like that. Jonathan Taylor 913 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: is an absolute stud. They were using him correctly. This 914 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 1: strikes me as a game that they're going to be 915 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 1: able to keep close. And if I'm getting it over 916 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: a field goal, which I think, by the way, it's 917 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: probably going to stay. I don't I don't think this 918 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,280 Speaker 1: is going to be something where again a Colts team 919 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: going on the road on a Sunday night football game 920 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: to take on a very very strong forty nine ers. 921 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: You know, defense at home, you know again on Sunday 922 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: night football off of bye I don't see, you know, 923 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: everybody coming out here to back the Colts. But that's 924 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: actually where I come in at over a field goal here, 925 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 1: So I'm. 926 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: Gonna go there. 927 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna be on opposite side of the game, which 928 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 1: is fine. Do you have any thoughts on the total? 929 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: I kind of lean the under here. I don't. It 930 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as a huge offensive explosion. I know, 931 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,399 Speaker 1: forty five, forty five and a half not a huge 932 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: number or anything, but it still strikes me as something 933 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: where I don't expect a ton of points to be 934 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:30,919 Speaker 1: scored here. 935 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, if anything, I could see, I agree with you 936 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 2: that the spread will probably stay where it is, and 937 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 2: that if anything, the over under might go a little 938 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 2: bit up on the over. So if you do want to, 939 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 2: you know, bet the under, which is my lean, I 940 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: would maybe wait till later in the week to see 941 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 2: where it settles in at. And yeah, I do think 942 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 2: it matters. What you said about that is a good 943 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: point about Wentz getting healthier. You and I, you know, 944 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 2: we came up through the Fantasy Pros news desk, so 945 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 2: we're always monitoring the you know day to day practice reports, 946 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 2: if a player is limited or full and all of that. 947 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 2: And you know Wentz early in the year he was playing, 948 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 2: but he was only getting in limited practices and now 949 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,439 Speaker 2: he's been the past two weeks, he's been getting in 950 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: full practices, So there is legitimacy to the saying that 951 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 2: Wentz is getting healthier. 952 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: And again you just watch him, you know what's going on. 953 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: And the fact that he played in Week one mind 954 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: boggling because again again that five to twelve week timetable. 955 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: They really pushed them. And to be fair, their backup 956 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: quarterback situation is one of the worst in the league. 957 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: So I guess I get it in that sense. But 958 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: now that he's getting healthier again, regardless of whether or 959 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: not to Y Hilton can play. The fact that Michael 960 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: Pittman Junior is there, their scheme opens up everything. And 961 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: again Jonathan Taylor and their defenses is fine. You know, 962 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 1: it's not quite as strong as it was. Their secondary 963 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: has been really banged up all year, but I don't 964 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 1: think that matters that much against the forty nine ers. Again, 965 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: great coaching staff, they've had an extra week to prepare. 966 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 1: That's a great thing for them, but I still lean 967 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: towards the Colts at overfield goal. Last game here, Monday 968 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,360 Speaker 1: night football. You know, you go back a year, Brandon, 969 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: and you go back two years, this game would be 970 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: the most exciting game history man kind. Right now, it's 971 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: very much a all right, it's Monday Night football, so 972 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: I'll watch it. The Saints are visiting the Seahawks. The 973 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 1: Saints right now are laying five points. The total is 974 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: forty three and a half. Man, again, you go back 975 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: a year or two, the total in this game is 976 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 1: like fifty five and a half at this point. But 977 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: what do you think here, Tuma? You know you've got 978 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure Geno Smith again. You know, you know they're 979 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,799 Speaker 1: kicking the tires on the quarterbacks. But I'm sure it's 980 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: going to be Gino Smith here again for the Seahawks. 981 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: What do you think, man? 982 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 2: Do you have this up? Did this move already a 983 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 2: point or two in the direction of the States? I 984 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 2: think it might have opened at three and a half. 985 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there are some books that are still 986 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: out there at four and a half at this point, 987 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: but it's the consensus is five. When I'm looking through 988 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: all the books, almost everyone is at five There is 989 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: a five and a half out there at FanDuel, there's 990 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: a four and a half at bet MGM. So it's 991 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: all over the place. But yeah, it moves here obviously, 992 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: you know from what we saw on Sunday night. 993 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the more the higher it gets, the more scared 994 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 2: I get, because that came in prepared to, you know, 995 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 2: really talk up the Saints in this spot. I think 996 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,719 Speaker 2: the Geno Smith factor all the you know, maybe it's 997 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 2: just you know, the crowd that I follow and interact 998 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 2: with on Twitter, but it feels like a lot of 999 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 2: people really want Geno Smith to do well, and they're 1000 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: rooting for Gino Smith and he just already had a 1001 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 2: prime time game and he helped you know betters who 1002 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 2: might have you know, wanted to bet on him cover. 1003 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 2: And now there's another chance, you know where it's you know, 1004 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 2: an Island game and people can come in and say, oh, 1005 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 2: I want to bet on Geno Smith. You know he 1006 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 2: did well for me last week. And you know, the 1007 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 2: Seahawks are at home and everything too, But man, I 1008 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 2: do kind of want to fade Gino at this spot. 1009 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 2: I know that's nothing crazy to say for when it 1010 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 2: comes to you know, sports gambling people who were betting 1011 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 2: against Geno, you know, five eight years ago when he 1012 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 2: was a starter for your favorite team, the Jets. But 1013 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 2: I just think, you know, the Saints again coming off 1014 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 2: of buy I don't want to put too much weight 1015 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 2: into that with all these games, but it is a 1016 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 2: little bit of a factor. I also think that there's 1017 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,439 Speaker 2: now tape out there of what Seattle wants to do 1018 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 2: with Gino. I mean, they didn't change things up too 1019 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 2: much as to what they did with Russell Wilson, and 1020 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,919 Speaker 2: you know, week to week, Pete Carroll isn't the type 1021 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 2: where he's going to overhaul the game plan. You know. 1022 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 2: The Seahawks kind of are what they are and they 1023 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 2: try to go out and match teams and they often 1024 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 2: do well. But I just you know, again coming off 1025 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 2: the high of Gino, I would you know, like it 1026 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: a lot more. The closer down you can get to, 1027 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 2: you know, whatever it is, four three and a half, 1028 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,520 Speaker 2: maybe we'll see where the line goes. But so as 1029 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 2: of right now, this is one I definitely wait on 1030 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 2: to see where it settles. I want to be on 1031 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 2: the Saints, but I also again want to be price 1032 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 2: sensitive and I don't want to be taken, you know, 1033 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 2: minus five and a half on the road for on 1034 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 2: the other side of the ball. Let's be honest, I'm 1035 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 2: not sure we can fully trust in Jameis Winston either. 1036 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is that I make the Princess Bride analogy 1037 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: a lot. I clearly cannot choose the wine in front 1038 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 1: of me, and I clearly cannot choose the wine in 1039 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: front of you, which is something you probably don't get 1040 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: because you're ten years old. But regardless, I don't know 1041 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: what to do with this one here as I look 1042 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: at it. It's just something where Look, the Seahawks, they 1043 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 1: played better than expected, I think, you know, even Pittsburgh here, 1044 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 1: you know, against the Steelers, they put up a fight. 1045 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: There were moments for Gino, you know, before he eventually 1046 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,359 Speaker 1: blew it. But they're going to be tired here again. 1047 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they get the extra day, so even though 1048 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 1: they played Sunday night. You've got the Saints coming off 1049 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: a bye. The Seahawks, you know, they want to run 1050 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: the ball, but they it's unclear whether or not Alex 1051 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: Collins is even going to be healthy for this game here. 1052 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: Coming into the game, they just don't really have the horses. 1053 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: The Saints defense is very solid, but the dead number 1054 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: of five, it's just not a game I really want 1055 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: to go near, you know. I And again you think 1056 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: about it, Maybe it's a teaser piece. Maybe tease it 1057 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: up to eleven, you get it above ten, But even then, 1058 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 1: I just don't. You know, the Seahawks are well coached, 1059 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 1: but you know, the Saints at any given moment, even 1060 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: with James Winston out there, you know, can put up 1061 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, a thirty spot if everything breaks right for them. 1062 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: They're not gonna have Michael Thomas back or anything like that, 1063 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure it matters when you get them 1064 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: off buy here. So this is this is a really 1065 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,439 Speaker 1: gross slate of games, Brendan, Like this is I'm sorry 1066 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: that we had you on for what amounts to you know, 1067 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: a slate that probably nobody really wants to wants to 1068 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,160 Speaker 1: bet at this point. But your favorite bet, Brendan, as 1069 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,839 Speaker 1: you look at this weekend, I mean we talked about 1070 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. Is it the Bears getting thirteen or 1071 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 1: is that just your favorite of the big spreads. 1072 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 2: That's definitely my favorite going in right now. Yeah, I 1073 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,279 Speaker 2: was gonna say, I appreciate you having me on on 1074 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:27,240 Speaker 2: the grossest slates. 1075 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the only way I get on. That's it. 1076 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 2: But part of part of that is, like like we 1077 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 2: said up top, you know, the six teams on buy, 1078 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 2: a lot of the good teams are on by So 1079 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 2: for me just looking as the overall slate as the 1080 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 2: as a whole, you know, Washington is still the Washington 1081 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 2: defense is still just a unit I really want to 1082 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 2: attack and I just really trust you know, Anne Rodgers 1083 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 2: and Matte Lafour what to do in that spot. And 1084 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 2: then on the other side, it is you know, for 1085 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 2: an underdog pick, it would be the Bears getting plus 1086 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 2: their team. I just I really think when it comes 1087 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 2: to those big spreads that the thing that you want 1088 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 2: to look at is the favorites defense and whether or 1089 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: not we can trust them to protect those big leads 1090 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: and give us insurance against you know, backdoor covers. 1091 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, whenever you're listening to this, I do 1092 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: like the Broncos getting three and a half, which I 1093 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: would like that again overfield goal for sure. I lean 1094 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: the Panthers getting three against the Giants as well visiting 1095 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 1: New Jersey technically, which I'm there. I like the Cults 1096 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: getting three and a half. I mean, maybe I'll feel 1097 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: differently about this once I dig into them, once I 1098 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 1: look a little more into the trends and everything like that. 1099 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,720 Speaker 1: But I feel like the Colts are, you know, something 1100 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: where they could have let even against the Texans, they 1101 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: could have let that Monday night completely derail their season. 1102 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: They didn't. They played well, and they did exactly what 1103 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 1: they needed to do, and I could see them coming 1104 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: out here and putting up a big effort. So that's 1105 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: why Lean, Brendan, thank you for doing I talk to 1106 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: every day anyway, Brendan, so I appreciate it you you know, 1107 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: doing it on a podcast as well. Remind everybody where 1108 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: they can find you and more of your work. 1109 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on Twitter at too much too. Might do 1110 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 2: a lot of fantasy writing for Fantasypros dot com. You 1111 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 2: know a lot of base we're in the offseason right now, 1112 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,400 Speaker 2: but also you know several NFL articles a week, a 1113 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,880 Speaker 2: lot of the expert notes that you read when you 1114 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 2: click on a player on Fantasy Pros and you go 1115 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,840 Speaker 2: to that little note section. You can find some of 1116 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 2: my rating on that as well. Dan, this was a 1117 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 2: lot of fun. I appreciate it. 1118 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: It was, and I will say for baseball. By the way, 1119 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, you're probably just a gambler, 1120 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,640 Speaker 1: sports gambler generally, probably not limited to just football. There 1121 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of MVP betting talk that we had 1122 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: on the fans Bro side of our football podcast for baseball, 1123 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: which again we do a lot of. And so if 1124 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: you listened, certainly to Joe who hosted one of the shows, 1125 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,880 Speaker 1: you probably got in on Sho Hao Tani very early. 1126 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: You also got in on Bryce Harper as an MVP 1127 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 1: very early when it was plus three thousand, which right 1128 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: now looks like the favorite. So it's a good listen 1129 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 1: for that as well as just if you do happen 1130 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: to play fantasy. All right, guys, we're going to be 1131 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: back as usual on Thursday with our best bets of 1132 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,439 Speaker 1: the weekend, where we have been very very You're hot 1133 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,359 Speaker 1: right now, so that is great, So make sure you're 1134 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: subscribed here again. Go to our YouTube channel a YouTube 1135 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: dot com slash Betting Pros to make sure you are 1136 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: subscribed there as well, and I will talk to you 1137 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: again on Thursday.