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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Ross Tucker our good buddy, the former NFL

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman, host of the Ross Tucker Football podcast, and

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Speaker 1: you can check out the Ross Tucker Football Podcast. Also

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Speaker 1: game analyst for the Eagles in their preseason, also does

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Speaker 1: some college football in NFL for CBS in Westwood One.

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Speaker 1: Ross joins us, Now, how how would you answer that

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Speaker 1: most iconic NFL team in history is? You know, for me,

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Speaker 1: it's probably either the Packers or the Steelers. And it

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Speaker 1: was interesting Dan, hearing you guys talk about it. You

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Speaker 1: know what it really is like for all of us

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Speaker 1: our age group, it's whoever was featured the most on

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Speaker 1: NFL films from the sixties and seventies, you know, like

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Speaker 1: that is what's iconic. I can just picture Vince Lombardi,

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Speaker 1: you know, and on all those videos. Come on, guys,

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Speaker 1: let's go the Green Bay Power sweep or the videos

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Speaker 1: of Lynn Swan being in the air for forty eight

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Speaker 1: seconds catching passes in Super Bowls. I think it's hard

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Speaker 1: for any other team to be more iconic than the

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Speaker 1: teams that were so revered and featured on those NFL

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Speaker 1: films videos from the sixties and seventies. Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: they had a headstart because they were successful at a

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Speaker 1: time when we didn't get to watch all of the games.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you got to see your team featured with Howard

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Speaker 1: Cosell on Monday Night Football with the three minute highlights,

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Speaker 1: but I would probably. I don't think there's a wrong

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Speaker 1: answer if it's the Cowboy, Steelers, Packers or Raiders. It

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Speaker 1: just depends on you know, what was your fandom growing

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Speaker 1: up and was it based off your dad or your grandfather,

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Speaker 1: because that's using where it starts. If you're a fan

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Speaker 1: of that team now and you're in your thirties, chances

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Speaker 1: are it was based off of who your dad was

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Speaker 1: rooting for. How important is preseason? Well, I think to

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Speaker 1: the teams themselves, I think we saw last year, probably

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Speaker 1: not all that important. To the players that are playing tonight,

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Speaker 1: it's everything. I mean. I had some guy on Twitter

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Speaker 1: hit me up at Ross Tucker NFL and say preseason

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you know what, and I just replied back

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Speaker 1: to him, Dan, you know there's ninety man rosters, right,

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Speaker 1: we won't see hardly any starters tonight, so there's at

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Speaker 1: least fifty guys playing tonight. Okay, that we're two time

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Speaker 1: All State, two time All conference in college, maybe the

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Speaker 1: best athlete to ever come from their hometown. That the

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Speaker 1: two and a half three quarters they play tonight it's

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Speaker 1: the most important game of their lives. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: guys fifty to ninety on the roster, certainly sixty five

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Speaker 1: to ninety on each roster. It's the most important game

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Speaker 1: of their life. So if you don't care about that,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. That doesn't bother me. I get it. You

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Speaker 1: just want the starters, You just want the games that count.

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Speaker 1: That's fine. But number one to those guys it means everything.

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Speaker 1: And number two just don't tell me you're the biggest

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Speaker 1: fan ever. Like I always laugh when people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: diehard Cowboys fan, I'm the biggest fan ever. But they

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Speaker 1: don't watch the preseason like there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: fans out there. They watch every second of the preseason

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Speaker 1: because they care about the third string tight end and

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Speaker 1: the O line depth and they want to know who

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Speaker 1: the fourth corner will be. And it's totally acceptable. If

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Speaker 1: you don't feel that way, just do me a favorite.

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Speaker 1: Don't call yourself the biggest fan. Ever, How do you

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Speaker 1: make a roster during preseason. If you're a borderline player,

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Speaker 1: two things. Number one is, first of all, it starts

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Speaker 1: by doing something to stand out. You know, there's ninety guys.

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Speaker 1: Now there's only eighty guys Dan when I was playing,

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Speaker 1: But with ninety guys, especially if you're one of these

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Speaker 1: bottom of the roster, undrafted guys, you must do something

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Speaker 1: unique or different to stand out. And mine was taking

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Speaker 1: the aggression to another level, right, like having the coaches

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Speaker 1: have to tell me to calm down. That's one way

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Speaker 1: they love that. You're like, like Joe Judge has all

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Speaker 1: the Giants players running and doing push ups. Meanwhile the

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Speaker 1: next day he's like, I gotta be honest. That really

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Speaker 1: turned me on. I really liked that they all act

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Speaker 1: like they don't like fights, Dan, They're all full of it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you're a football coach, it's because at one point

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Speaker 1: you loved football and you played it, which means you

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Speaker 1: loved the physical part of it, which means you love

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Speaker 1: that you love it. DA mean, Dan Campbell at least

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Speaker 1: Number one you have to stand out in some way.

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Speaker 1: And the number two the coaches have to trust you.

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Speaker 1: They have to trust you, which means you cannot mess

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Speaker 1: up mentally. Honestly, Dan, I wasn't that physically gifted, but

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Speaker 1: of my ability. And that's like the only reason I

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Speaker 1: made it with Schottenheimer as a rookie and then stuck

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Speaker 1: around for a while. But I guess you get cut

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Speaker 1: then if you do mess up something mentally, if you're alignment,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing yeah, any position, Dan, it is the single

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Speaker 1: biggest reason why guys don't make it. I think NFL

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Speaker 1: football is way more complicated or at least detailed. Then

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Speaker 1: that bench press six hundred pounds. They just couldn't figure

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Speaker 1: it out. I've seen guys that were way more talented

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Speaker 1: defense would change their alignment. And honestly, some of the guys,

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Speaker 1: Dan I actually felt bad for There was a kid

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Speaker 1: I remember, he was really gifted. He spent every second

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Speaker 1: Dan studying the playbook and if you would ask it him,

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Speaker 1: he would know it. You say, well, what happens did

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Speaker 1: then when he actually got out there, Dan and they're

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Speaker 1: a different type of intelligence. And some guys it comes

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Speaker 1: And if you really struggle with the football IQ the FBI,

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Speaker 1: if you will football intelligence, you're gonna have a really

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Speaker 1: tough time sticking around the NFL as a player. More

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Speaker 1: intriguing team this season the Steelers of the Cowboys, They're

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Speaker 1: both pretty intriguing. I'm gonna say Steelers because of what

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Speaker 1: and because of Big Ben. I mean, I go on

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh radio. I live in central Pennsylvania. There were

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Speaker 1: for Big Ben, and they wanted to turn the page.

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Speaker 1: They thought Big Ben, and think that Big Ben's washed up.

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Speaker 1: They wanted to see what Mason Rudolph could do in

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Speaker 1: his last year under contract, and or turn the page

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Speaker 1: and get the next guy. I thought they were nuts.

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers did the right thing giving Ben

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Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL until the Wheels came off.

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Speaker 1: How many legitimate Super Bowl contenders do you think we

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Speaker 1: I wonder if our expectations a little high on the Rams,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the odds are, but that's my

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Speaker 1: MVP pick. And then all of a sudden, I started

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Speaker 1: to see where there are a lot of people who thought, oh,

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford could be the MVP. Like Peter King was

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Speaker 1: I don't know, our expectation level a little too high

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Speaker 1: most of these years, if you looked at quarterback rankings,

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Speaker 1: Stafford was probably somewhere between ten and fifteen, and Golf

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Speaker 1: I mean, how much of a difference is that, Dan

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Speaker 1: Is that that a two or three win difference? Is

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Speaker 1: We'll see if it works this year. Luttman Clove and

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Speaker 1: you're rolling your He's back there at Ross Tucker Well.

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Speaker 1: Stafford was ranked ten to fifteen when he was with

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Speaker 1: the Lions. Now these with Sean McVeigh and the Rams,

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Speaker 1: mean he might, that's certainly what they're counting on. I

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Speaker 1: guess I would say about the Sean McVeigh thing always

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Speaker 1: makes me laugh. He's obviously a good coach, right, But

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Speaker 1: you ever notice how for four years every time the

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Speaker 1: my impersonation right there. Sean mcvah, Oh my gosh. He's

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Speaker 1: the greatest coach of all the best. He's got a

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Speaker 1: great house away When when whenever the Rams stunk, it

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Speaker 1: It's all Jared Goff's fault. You can't have it both ways, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you can't. You can't. Everything positive can't be McVeigh and

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Speaker 1: everything negative is golf. Like, let's let's split up both

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Speaker 1: of them a little bit. Yeah, but that happens with

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. When that offense is clicking, that's Kyle Shanahan's offense.

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Speaker 1: But when it's not that Jimmy Garoppolo can't play. It's

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Speaker 1: a great point. It's a great point. They both deserve

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Speaker 1: a slice of the success and futility. Pie, I agree.

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Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you. And what do you

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Speaker 1: mention right now? Not enough? Oh, by the way, how

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Speaker 1: about this last friday on the beach? Okay, I did

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Speaker 1: an hour walk on the beach, and every five minutes

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Speaker 1: I did twenty push ups, so I had done one

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Speaker 1: and sixties. I don't like, I don't I don't max out,

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Speaker 1: Gonna get tough in my seventies, certainly my eighties, but

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Speaker 1: I want to try to do my age push ups.

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Speaker 1: Who's the strongest guy that you were ever around? Either

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Speaker 1: who was ridiculously strong. I think he benched like seven

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Speaker 1: flunked out. I said, no, no no, no no, But I

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Speaker 1: always tell people, Look, if I was smart enough to

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Speaker 1: get into Stanford, I was also smart enough to know

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Speaker 1: when to leave. What always showed up? I said, you know,

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Speaker 1: this doesn't look so good for the bambino here. Oh

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Speaker 1: how would you describe him for those who didn't see

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Speaker 1: him when he came in in eighteen nineteen years of age.

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00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: He I mean, he had the same arm that you

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Speaker 1: saw as an NFL player, And again I actually saw

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Speaker 1: it in high school. What I think is funny is

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Speaker 1: some of these guys have really smooth motions, right, and

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Speaker 1: the ball just kind of so wow? Where did they

436
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: generate that power? Every time he threw, I swear it

437
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: looked like he was going to tear his rotator cuff.

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Speaker 1: You can just picture him, can't you, in the pocket

439
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: on his toes, chin up, and then he just ripped

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Speaker 1: the ball. But never we get too like two practices in,

441
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Speaker 1: a guy ran a hook round at about twelve yards

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Speaker 1: and literally just toward the receiver's finger, straight off, straight

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Speaker 1: back bone out. Oh well yeah, that's At first I thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, guys really like to catch my ball when

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Speaker 1: I was there, we were competing at Stanford there, and

446
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: then I realized, you know what, they really just don't

447
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: like to catch John's because it comes in about a

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Speaker 1: hundred miles in our minds. You know. I always like

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Speaker 1: it when they say this guy throw is a catchable ball.

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00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: That means he's got a week ard and that many

451
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: times the problem is it's catchable for the DNA. Reasonly's

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Speaker 1: for the office. Have fun tonight, babe. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: check in with you during the season. And thanks for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Yes, sir, my pleasure. Thank you, Dan appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 1: this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on

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Speaker 1: my podcast Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your

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Speaker 1: of Famer Charlie Stunner seventeen seasons as the Dodgers, played

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Speaker 1: by play voice on AM five seventy LA sports Chads,

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Speaker 1: Good to have you back. What was the atmosphere like

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Speaker 1: there the last two nights? It was fun. It was electric.

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Speaker 1: The first game, the fans were angry, I mean there

474
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: was an open hostility. And then when they got down

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Speaker 1: three zip and we had more inflatable trash cans than

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Speaker 1: I'd ever seen in my life, and we had Usually

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Speaker 1: when there's a home run, a ball is thrown back

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Speaker 1: onto the field. There were foul balls that were thrown

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00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: back onto the field. So the first game it was

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00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: a little bit dicey. Last night, for a change, it

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00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: was in fact the players and their bats that did

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Speaker 1: most of the talking, So both of the Knights were

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00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 1: dramatic and theatrical. Last night in Hollywood, where they're always

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00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: strived for a happy ending, at long last there was.

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Speaker 1: But also I wonder if winning a World Series has

486
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Speaker 1: diffused this just a little bit for Dodger fans. No, no,

487
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: but it was fascinating because one of the beauties of

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Speaker 1: working at Dodger Stadium, it's a home field advantage. It's,

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Speaker 1: you know, a visually spectacular ballpark. The sun says the same,

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Speaker 1: Gabriel Mountains are off in the distance, and you have

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Speaker 1: fifty two thousand and each of the first two nights.

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Speaker 1: The first night there was this air of trepidation. And

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Speaker 1: after being shut out in the first game, last night,

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Speaker 1: Max Scherzer shows up, Have gun, Will Travel. He might

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Speaker 1: have been Paladin, and the way he came out and

496
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: did his business, the Dodgers were in desperate need of

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Speaker 1: a win. They were feeling awful of out the previous night,

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Speaker 1: and then there was this sense of okay, now it's

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Speaker 1: the player's turn to speak their vengeance, and they did

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Speaker 1: so with their bats, and the crowd was a little well,

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00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: I can't say, subdued, a little more gentlemanly last night

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Speaker 1: than they were in the first night. But there were

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Speaker 1: two terrific theatrical games between two terrific teams who of

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Speaker 1: course submit in the World Series in seventeen. So it

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00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: was great, great theater and and Scherzer just turned in

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Speaker 1: one of those performances so that you if you ever

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Speaker 1: needed reminding of how great this guy is and how

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Speaker 1: he is able to withstand and even embrace the pressure

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Speaker 1: of the moment. It was a It was a brilliant

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Speaker 1: athletic theatrical production last night. How do you think history

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Speaker 1: will treat the Astros? Not well. I think the end

512
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: of the day they will always have that scarlet letter.

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Speaker 1: And in this town now, I don't know if it's

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00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: one and one A or they're just tied for first

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00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: between Altuve and Carrasco. The booze were genuine, they were visceral.

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00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: The other guys they were politely booed because they're the

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00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: other team. But those two guys, they really got it.

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Speaker 1: And last night, when Scherzer began the game by striking

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00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: out Al two, the arch enemy number one, out here

520
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: the place went crackers. And that was the scene, that

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00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: was the field, that was the vibe throughout the nights.

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Speaker 1: It was great, great theater. What are the Dodgers issues

523
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: right now? They have to figure out when Kershaw gets back.

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Speaker 1: They have to solidify their bullpen sum. You know, they

525
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: still haven't gotten the Trey Turner to arrive as yet.

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Speaker 1: But last night, for instance, then Scherzer comes back after

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Speaker 1: his spectacular performance and it was you know, it was

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Speaker 1: hotel qualities, as Kenny would say, he comes back to

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Speaker 1: the dugout and he is greeted by Clayton Kershaw. Mookie

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Speaker 1: bets Albert Pooh holds. I mean it was a star

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Speaker 1: studded attraction greeting him. And in all the years I've

532
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: been doing it, and I've been working with Rick Monday

533
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: now for seventeen years, we're talking about I had never

534
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: seen a picture receiver a curtain call. Usually when he

535
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: is finished, he goes into the dugout, gets his high fives,

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Speaker 1: goes about his business. Last night, it was a curtain

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Speaker 1: call and he was pushed out by whoever. Oh, it

538
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: just happened to be Clayton Kershaw. It was one of

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: those magical moments. I swear I don't ever remember a

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Speaker 1: picture after a performs after coming out of the game

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Speaker 1: then getting a curtain call. So it really was a magical, electric,

542
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: charismatic moment last night. What can you sum up what's

543
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: going on with Cody Bellinger? No, he really is lost.

544
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: You know, he's still getting over a shoulder issue and

545
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: so that may be part of it. But right now

546
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: he is in one of those slumps nobody ever wants

547
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: to be in. He's he's dead last or anybody who's

548
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: got at least two hundred AD bats. He's hit in

549
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: the buck sixty something and you know it's been a

550
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: soft one and sixty something. You know how this is

551
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: eventually going to play out don't know. But one of

552
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: the things about Bellinger he may not be hitting much,

553
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: but he's still is good a defender in center field,

554
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: right field, or first base as areas. So he does

555
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: he does bring a a palpable strength to the club

556
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: right now, just isn't with his bat. It's great to

557
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: catch up with you, Charlie Hope. You're well. I'm doing great.

558
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: You know, they still haven't caught up to me, and

559
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: apparently I haven't caught up to you either. Somebody asked

560
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: about the Andrew Shoe Sports Center commercial where we traded

561
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: you from Sports Center to Melrose Place. YEP, I ask

562
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: you this one question. Where is he now? That trade

563
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: worked out? I like it. I like that. Where did

564
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: you shoot that commercial where you're the Poolboy? We flew

565
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: out to California, We flew out onto the set, and

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Speaker 1: when we did, I don't know. It was nineteen ninety

567
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: ish and Melrose Place was a big deal and I

568
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: remember getting out there and the women on the set

569
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: had no idea who the hell I was. They had

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Speaker 1: no the guy is. All they wanted to do is

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Speaker 1: talk sports. And then they put me in that get

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00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: up and it was the first and only time I

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Speaker 1: had a schmot on my head. I had, you know,

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Speaker 1: my arms, and I'm Bobby the f pool Boy, and

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Speaker 1: I had no idea it would turn out the way

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Speaker 1: it did. We actually went on site to do a

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00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: Sports Center commercial. That's how long ago and how much

578
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: fun it was ago and people forget when we first started.

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Speaker 1: And I remember going to John Walls, who was our boss,

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Speaker 1: and I said, why don't we promote Sports Center? We

581
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Speaker 1: promote every other show, we don't promote Sports Center. He goes, well,

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Speaker 1: we don't have to, and he said, you know, let

583
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Speaker 1: me see, let me see, and then he brought in

584
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Speaker 1: Widen and Kennedy and then they followed us around. And

585
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: then Widen and Kennedy, people who were the geniuses behind it,

586
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: said hey, we can't get any athletes because we don't

587
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Speaker 1: pay for anybody to do these commercials. And I reach

588
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: out to Grant Hill and Jason Kidd and I said, look,

589
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: you don't get paid, but you get your own commercial.

590
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: And Grant Hill played the piano in the lobby. Jason

591
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: Kidd came in and a helicopter to drop off his

592
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: highlight tape while he's in his MAVs uniform. After that,

593
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: everybody wanted their commercial, and you know, we we were

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00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: forever indebted to Grant Hill and Jason Kidd. You did

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00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: you have one of those? Was there one other moment

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00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 1: that stood out as far as doing those with you? Well?

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00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: For me, I guess the one that still has legs

598
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: and it's crazy, it's now what thirty years almost follow

599
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: me to freedom? They two K, the y two K,

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Speaker 1: and I guess Evander come looking for me, come get

601
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 1: your whooping. The worst part when that spot first came out,

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00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, again, you and I were at a time

603
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: when we didn't written know or realize ESPN was about

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00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: to become what it would eventually become. Then all of

605
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, these commercials took place. I'd be walking through

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00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: an airport and I'd have like some seven year old

607
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: kid come up to me to be all excited and said,

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00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: come get your whooping, you know, and it's like, come on.

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00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: That's when I realized these these commercials were onto something. Look,

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00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: you and I and all of us who were there

611
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: then going through that evolution bordering on revolution, ESPN popping

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00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: onto the scene, and then those spots the irony was

613
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: at you. Recall we use have nice Christmas parties. We

614
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: were a couple of hundred people would show up and

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00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: everybody knew one another. And by the end of the

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Speaker 1: time we would go to our own parties and we

617
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Speaker 1: have no idea who they were who were there, and

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00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: they wanted autographs from Yeah, and at the one party,

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Speaker 1: Steve Bornstein is and it's late at night, so picture

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Speaker 1: the ambiance and we were all sufficiently liquored up at

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Speaker 1: two in the morning. And Bornstein says to me, the

622
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Speaker 1: late John Saunders and Boomer. He said, in a perfect

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Speaker 1: world Sports center would be anchored by monkeys and clowns,

624
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: and all we really need is the ESPN logo behind us.

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00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: And then he says, after another belt of some hooch,

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00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: he points at me and Saunders and Boomer and he said,

627
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: but you and you have screwed up our plan. And

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00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: within several weeks everybody had this notion of maybe we

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Speaker 1: could do something to promote us. And again they were

630
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: trying to submerge our personalities initially. Now all of a

631
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: sudden the commercials come out and it changed only everything. Well,

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Speaker 1: Steve Bornstein is the author of the famous quote where

633
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: he called me at lunch while he wanted me to

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00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: sign an extension, you're just bleeping talent, using the F word.

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Speaker 1: So we're having lunch and he says, you're just bleeping

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Speaker 1: talent and that's a good opening gambit. Yeah yeah, and hey,

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Speaker 1: we want you to sign an extension, so make up

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Speaker 1: your mind. I'm just f and talent or hey we

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Speaker 1: want you to stay for a little while. And I

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Speaker 1: signed the extension. Yeah I had fourteen years here, how

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Speaker 1: many do you have? Eighteen? All right? Yeah, So look,

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Speaker 1: it was a great run while it was, And here

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Speaker 1: we are, and you know, one of the things I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about the other night, Dan watching Kenny and

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Speaker 1: Rich doing the Olympic stuff on Peacock. It was like

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Speaker 1: a Sports Center reunion, you know, Sports Center twenty years later,

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Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you, I don't know about you.

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Speaker 1: I felt so proud, especially with Mike who's anchoring the

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Speaker 1: whole shooting match, Kenny being Kenny, and Rich being Rich.

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Speaker 1: It reminded me of how good we were then a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent, how good they are now? Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: lot of talents. And Tarenko came in. He was just

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Speaker 1: a kid, and it was like, yeah, get in get

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Speaker 1: in line. And Kenny was the guy who was covering

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Speaker 1: Tanya Harding in Seattle, and it's like, well, so we

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Speaker 1: brought them in, and they brought me and I had

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Speaker 1: no television talent, but somehow they put this thing together.

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Speaker 1: And for all the years you've been doing, you've been

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Speaker 1: doing all the years I've been doing what I'm doing,

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Speaker 1: in that heyday, that was about as much fun as

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Speaker 1: I ever had in my career. I mean, there we

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Speaker 1: were ice stationed Zebra aka Bristol, just doing what we

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Speaker 1: did and did it reasonably well and left a little,

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Speaker 1: very little blood on the floor. It's good to catch

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Speaker 1: up with you, Charlie, and thanks for joining us. As always,

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Speaker 1: then good to see you