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Speaker 1: Don't have an address, you know what I'm saying. Uh,

426
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: They expect you to go out there and get some

427
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: type of general relief. They want you to go get

428
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: some food stamps to something else. They won't let you

429
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: be a man. They won't let you build your character,

430
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: you know. Um. And what what's good with me was

431
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 1: Shill Night came to my rescue, and I had a

432
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: good ass baby mama. I had a straight ride of

433
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: dive baby mama. My son Mama was at every prison

434
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 1: I got rolled up to and and she was there

435
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: to pick me up. She had her own ship. She

436
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: never did no county, and I didn't have to worry

437
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 1: about paying the county back. Real good show. If Nick

438
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: ain't got a straight backbone when you come home, you

439
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: out there by yourself. Yeah, let me ask you this, James.

440
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: When you was in prison, how long did you do?

441
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: I did two years and three months. Two years and

442
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: three months. So she came straight to your rescue. He

443
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: came to you, of course, and the rest is history.

444
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: Came to you saying he needed you. Yeah, and that's

445
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 1: when y'all kind of got your thing going, because without you,

446
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have been able to make some of the

447
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: moves he made. I think, and I still say this,

448
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 1: when she came to me, she'll had a purpose. I

449
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: didn't know what it was at the time. I was

450
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: and and I don't have no more grapes. I was

451
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: enjoying my freedom and the ship that he introduced me to.

452
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: I was loving it. I'm fresh out, I'm good. You

453
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you know, if she would

454
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: have just left me alone, and I'd have probably been

455
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: bad married to my first time mother, I probably would.

456
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 1: It would have just had the weather the storm, because

457
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: she had no you ain't gonna do this, We ain't

458
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna do this. But you know that penitentiary

459
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: propaganda bullshit. You oh baby, we're going to church, we

460
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: will will. Didn't happen that way. As soon as I

461
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: stepped foot out, that motherfucker. It was only cracking. The

462
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: first thing you want to do. You want to get

463
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 1: something to drink. You wanna fuck, and you want to

464
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: go see what the homers doing. I don't care what

465
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: you're talking about in prison. And I said, I'm not

466
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: doing none of that, and you can't. Soon as you

467
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: came back, he was just right back on the blade.

468
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: Then that the knock on the door. You know, I'm

469
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: I make it to the house that night, I said

470
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: about that morning before for I even at breakfast, ship

471
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: was at the door, and uh he asked me what

472
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: was going on? Ship nicking fresh out and what's happening?

473
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: He looked out for me, okay, told me he was

474
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: gonna come back this one he was going and forth

475
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: to Vegas. Came and got me to a rod to

476
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: Vegas with him, like fucking let's roll me and me

477
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: and a homeboy time time when he kicked with him.

478
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: Next thing you know, it was on. It was just

479
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: on from there, man, like really man so and we

480
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: didn't gonna turn this back into these things. But I

481
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people know, man, as a

482
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: guy that did at that time. Man, do you think

483
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: that it should wouldn't have came and got you? You You

484
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: think you would eventually wound up going back in. To

485
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: be honest, I think I probably would have had a problem.

486
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: But and then on the other hand, I really don't know, because,

487
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: like I said, my baby mama she was she was strong,

488
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: she was solid, and she had me. But how long

489
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: am I gonna be able to ride her? You know

490
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because all of these things I said

491
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: I want to do and I gotta do and and

492
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: be good to her and and and love my son

493
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: and provide. I can't get it out there with her

494
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: job and her trying to take care of me. What

495
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: that made me look like? So that was like a

496
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: no no. That was like a no no. But then

497
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: when I got to taste that that that freedom was

498
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: should Man, I sucked up my relationship, put my baby

499
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: mama just out there on some other ship, and then

500
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: I went to I think North Carolina was the first

501
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: place we went to when I got out, and it

502
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: was it was just over I was. I was like

503
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: old boy on Harlem nights. Uh tell your MoMA coming

504
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: home no more. I was straight in the streets. So

505
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I made mistakes along the way and and

506
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: and funked it up. But me and her are real

507
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: cool now, you know what I'm saying. But you know,

508
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: she would played a big part in it. I don't

509
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: know if it would have been well, I do know

510
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: it would have been different. It would have been totally

511
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: different because I would have had to I would have

512
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: had to live like a regular motherfucker. But at that time,

513
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: I still had the the gang mentality. I still wanted

514
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: to be I still wanted to be morm James, and

515
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: I was still out there like that. And the way

516
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: the homies was, and the way my brother's and then was,

517
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, my brother Country was going back and forth

518
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: to prison, and you know that part of the life.

519
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't think I was ready to let that go.

520
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: Just just chunk the hood out and just you know,

521
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: now I'm cutting grass and you know, and trying to

522
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: pay bills, yeah, exactly, and they make it to wear

523
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: man like I don't know, no man man that wants

524
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: to live on general relief? What was General releaf like

525
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: two hun month month something like that. A lot of

526
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: a lot of cats get content and they're cool with that. Yeah,

527
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I ain't gotta do ship with sit

528
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: back and smoke weed. It's out there every day and

529
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: everybody out there that's listening. No, I ain't bullshit. It's

530
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: it's just like catch moving in with a chick and

531
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: she got get foods down and stuff. And you know

532
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And she don't want you to do ship.

533
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: You feel me, I got this. As soon as she

534
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: can't pay that bill, she's gonna be like, babe, we

535
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: need to pay the light bill. And you like what

536
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: you're telling me for you don't want you know, I

537
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 1: ain't got it. You gotta get your sorry ass out.

538
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Now she's bringing you down. So now that's you gotta

539
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: attack because you know what I'm saying, You gotta be aggressive.

540
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: So now I'm arguing with you. Now you're telling me

541
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: to get out your till. But he me, don't realize

542
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: that the longer you lay up in her ship and

543
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: be content, that's what you're gonna be. When she put

544
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: you out, you ain't gonna want to get up and

545
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: do it. And a lot of us have have fell

546
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: into that that. Yeah, it's the biggest trap in the world, man,

547
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, you know, So you get

548
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: out to you on parole, man, you can't hanging around

549
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: with no homies. You can't go get a job nowhere

550
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: because they tell you got a record. Now you're on

551
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: general relief and you're pretty much living with some chicken.

552
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: This is the same scenario. I see a dude moves

553
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: in with a bro. She got her section, they crib.

554
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: She paying, you know, fifty dollars a month or whatever

555
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: it was section they give you. Right, she got two

556
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: or three kids, she's getting a couple hundred dollars for

557
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: each kid, right, So it's chicken in the pot every night.

558
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: He get this three hundred dollars a month. He's sitting

559
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: around smoking weed all day and watching cable TV. And

560
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: he gets accustomed to that, Like you said, the next

561
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: when the time comes when they need that bill pay.

562
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: How can you live in the house with a woman?

563
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: And then she regulating ship because she paying all the ship.

564
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: You you gotta come in, so long as you don't

565
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: come in at a certain time. Now, no argument ship starts,

566
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm saying. So she paying all the

567
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: vills and you're just sitting there chilling some cash. Are

568
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: intent like that? But a real nigga that want to

569
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: get his own ship and have his own ship, letting

570
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: the homies pick me up and all this other bullshit

571
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: ain't having it. But we we just get lazy and comfortable.

572
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna depend on this female to take

573
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: care of me. I can't. And you know there's a

574
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: lot of women out there say they'd rather have a

575
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: half a man than a real man. She lost her

576
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: motherfucking mind. You don't want the real nig You ain

577
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: a real bit, you know what I'm saying. So I

578
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be with her anyway, fun taking care

579
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: of me. I gotta get out here and get my

580
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: own Now. If you tell me to put that back

581
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: in your pocket, I'm gonna put it back in my pocket.

582
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah see see you know what I think happens, though, Man,

583
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,959
Speaker 1: it's a really big trick bag man with just us

584
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: as black man, because the separation of the family don't

585
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: been going on for so long, man, because they tell

586
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, even when the women are on Section eight,

587
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: they get told they're not allowed to have nobody in

588
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: the house but them and their kids. A man is

589
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: technically not supposed to be around for the first time. Yeah,

590
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: the first time you piss her off, all she gotta

591
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: do is make a phone call. This dude is in

592
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: here and he won't leave. You're going to getting as leaves.

593
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: So what they're pretty much telling that woman you could

594
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: push out as many babies as you want to and

595
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: we go get you. I don't. I don't know whether

596
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: he knows, so people don't don't. I don't want to

597
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: see it in the comments, and I I don't know what

598
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Is it three to five hundred dollars

599
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: a baby or something they have? So you figured woman

600
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: got three kids in the house. That's plus she's getting

601
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: food stamps and all that kind of other stuff, and

602
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: she probably I think, on the um, what is it

603
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: on the section, Nate, But they're paying a couple of

604
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: dollars a month and they create the Yeah, exactly, So

605
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: she's getting tailored from them. So you got it in

606
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: that bros here from the time she little where her

607
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: mama telling her all them news ain't ship. They this

608
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: ain't ship. So she don't really need a man in

609
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: her mind, so the first time she gets one, she's

610
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: in the position to control almost that kind of you

611
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: kind of went from from the mama. Now everything is

612
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: a system norm and you see it every day. The

613
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: home girl. The home girl got section eight. She got

614
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: a dude stand with her. But they don't want nobody,

615
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: no male figure in the house. Why why why this

616
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: my just my boyfriend because he should be able to provide, right, Okay,

617
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: but it's a little deeper than that. What happens when

618
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: you got the mom and daddy living together and raising

619
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: their kids. Oh, everything go trying to be righteous? Yeah,

620
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: you got a strong foundation. You well, now I'm gonna say, Sean,

621
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: but you have a foundation with without both hairs. You

622
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: just got the mama trying to raise knuckle heads such

623
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: as myself. What you have exactly what they want you

624
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: to have. We I can't keep my job if I

625
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: don't have nobody to put in jail. If they patrolled

626
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: the good and what do they see? They see us?

627
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: That's why you get some kinds that don't get a column.

628
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: They block your gass up, put dope on you and

629
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: all the other ship. I'm going I'm going like like

630
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: losing myself. But it's everything is a is designed for

631
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: us to lose, you know, and it's a thing we

632
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: don't see it. When we see it, it's too late.

633
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: When we don't understand it, it's too late. I was

634
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: I was reading, uh this guy somebody uh a text

635
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: and I was reading and you know, just listening, and

636
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: half of the ship that they you know, people say

637
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: it's crazy. M hmm. Every baby in mama had was

638
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: none of them was ever on the county, none of them. Um,

639
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: I don't have nobody to blame pretty much but myself

640
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: for half of the ship that I did. You know

641
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Because I accepted cocaine over my baby mama.

642
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: I accepted gang banion over my baby mama's. You know,

643
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: if I had got my motherfucking mind right at the beginning,

644
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: when I first had my first son, then I think

645
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 1: I would have been cool. I wouldn't have went to prison.

646
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have did this. And and you know, having

647
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: my son come to prison and see me in prison

648
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: was the worstest fucking feeling, but it was a good

649
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: feeling at the same time. I was able to sing,

650
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: I was able to pick him up and hug him

651
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: and watch him running around that goddamn up visiting room,

652
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, pointing people and tell him that's my daddy,

653
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: that's my daddy. And it was a good thing. But

654
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: just to watch them leave it was another thing. You know.

655
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy, man. Yeah, well you know what I think, man,

656
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 1: I got the biggest behind that. That's why I brought

657
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: up this guy in the beginning, man, because it seemed

658
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: like they wanted them back there so bad. I think

659
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 1: prison has turned into a gold mine for these people.

660
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this. You know, they're talking about the

661
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: prison phone industry, and that's a market dominated by several

662
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: large five the Hill firms that earned an estimated at

663
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: one point to billion dollars a year. They make one

664
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Speaker 1: point two billion dollars years just from Nikka's call at

665
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: home and and the phone because the phone is different.

666
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: You gotta put the ship on the car now you

667
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: can't call collect exactly. And then uh Sherman Sherman Block

668
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: daughter runs the canteen in the county jail. She she

669
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: making millions of dollars. She she breaking it up. So yeah,

670
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: they swished it for them to make money. And then

671
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: look at what they're doing right now. They have removed

672
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: the in person family vegetation room to make way for

673
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: video vigitation terminals, and those are provided by private firms

674
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: to wishing charges as much as thirty dollars for forty

675
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: minutes of screen time. One prison phone company, Securious Technology,

676
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: says in the marketing materials that this is paid up

677
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: one point three billion dollars and commissions over the past

678
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: teen years. So that makes me think, you go back

679
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: to this Charles guy, right, they let him out of jail,

680
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: then somebody looks up and says, you messed with my money,

681
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: and I'll bring that niggas ass back to jail. I don't.

682
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean, what if he wouldn't getting visits? What if

683
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: he wouldn't uh, let's say a productive inmate like that. So,

684
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: I mean, that wouldn't make no sense to holding back

685
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: in jail. They had a reason to go you know what.

686
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: But but they had a reason to go back and

687
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: get him. But but that's the thing though, It's like

688
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: we're more valuable inside man than we are out, you

689
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, because it's let's say, it's

690
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: profitable to have you and and and incrocerated in the

691
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: county jail, in any any prison, because they found a

692
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: way to break your family, to work your family out

693
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: of money, just like selling drugs. Put that money fifty

694
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: seventy dollars on the card and that should go like this.

695
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: You don't control the minutes or none of that ship,

696
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: then the the food. You can't send the package like that.

697
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: Like out of TVs, everything is through a catalog. Now

698
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: whoever control that catalog is making a lot of goddamn money. Okay,

699
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: check this out. The commissary in prison earned one point

700
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: six billion dollars last year. So that same dude you're saying, yeah,

701
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: he might not have got no phone calls, but that

702
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: motherfucker eat and he works in there. Everybody you're working for.

703
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, saying, That's what I'm saying.

704
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: Them things that they built, and you think they're not

705
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: making the profit off of them, They the police is

706
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: making profits. But you ain't gotta pay number in there

707
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742
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743
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Speaker 1: If you don't know how to make frames, if you

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Speaker 1: don't know, if you don't have a hustler in there,

745
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: your asses out living, just think you gotta wump with

746
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: the motherfucker's on every day. Think about its ninety five

747
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: degrees out of here. How to degree ease. But if

748
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749
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: Yeah that's real talk. So if if you gotta live

750
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: in that station ship everything every time you walk, it's

751
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: gonna remind you where you at. But you got cash

752
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: out there living and got their own motherfucking me. I

753
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: had my own shoes, my my own ship, you know

754
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But it's rough. But they're making a

755
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: lot of money off of it because they figured the

756
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: way out. They got a plan. So everything you're doing there,

757
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing there, is making them money. Yeah. That's

758
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: the thing, man. That's why I tell my kids, I

759
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: tell all my nephews and stuff. Man, if you can

760
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: stay out that system, stay out of this this, don't

761
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: even get started in there, because the thing is, it's

762
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: almost like they're waiting to trap you know, once they

763
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: get ahold of you, they got you forever. Almost have

764
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: seemed like, you know, you've been very fortunate, James, you know,

765
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: just you know, some of the stuff that has happened

766
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: in your life, man, just to be able to make

767
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: that transit and I speaking to that, so you wanna

768
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: flay it again when you do that right before the

769
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: going oh yeah, and in between the quarantine, yeah yeah, flatished.

770
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: Me and Black became really cool, um, you know, conversation wise,

771
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, we we don't hang out

772
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: or nothing like that. Um, you know, father conversation. You know,

773
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: hearing like me on a lot of ship ship that

774
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, And I was gonna say

775
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: that earlier. People say you need to do this, and

776
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: you need to that. You man, read some books. I

777
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: started reading books. I started paying attention more like Black

778
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: was saying. Um, a lot of a lot of stuff

779
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: people say about Black. I listen, But then I don't

780
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: see that in him. Well, you know the thing he

781
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: was man, and I ain't gonna get into a big

782
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: conversation about Lad. Lad is not Lad is not a

783
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: bad dude to me. Lad promotes the show constantly. I

784
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: don't have nothing bad to say about the man. First

785
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: of all, I don't know him like that like him,

786
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: but all my interactions with him has been pretty positive.

787
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: It's one question he asked, though. He asked about the

788
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: KEYPD thing we were doing. That is going to happen,

789
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: But so for your information, we are going to do that.

790
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, let's go do it, but it has to

791
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: be at the right time. We are in the middle

792
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: of a quarantine and we did try to set that

793
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: meeting up with Keifi a few times before it happening.

794
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: And he was taking this time getting by it. So

795
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: it ain't just like it was just on me and

796
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: James to make that happen. But that is something that's

797
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen, um. And you know, I think, like I

798
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: told you before, I try to make moves without rushing

799
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Speaker 1: into things. You know what I'm saying. It has to

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Speaker 1: be right. We're gonna do it. We're gonna do I'm

801
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: learning I had no patience whatsoever, and I'm I'm learning that.

802
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: And I know it's a lot of brothers out there

803
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: like me that that lives that life and want to

804
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: change it. And the beginning of it. The whole recipe

805
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: is you gotta have patience. Sh It ain't gonna change

806
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: for for us overnight because we still gotta battle out

807
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: here and then we gotta deal with ourselves. This right

808
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: here was the worstest part fighting myself, you know what

809
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's it's a lot of guys out there,

810
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: and and I get it in my comments Facebook all that,

811
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: that's that's man trying to find that way out. But

812
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: it's hard as your motherfucker. Your way out might not

813
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: be the same way my way out. It's not hard.

814
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: You just gotta really like say funk that this is

815
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Speaker 1: the way for me. I gotta do it. I don't

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Speaker 1: give a funk if he thinking it's fucked up hard,

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Speaker 1: I'm turning into a pussy. Show me. I'm a pussy,

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Speaker 1: y'all to know what you're that's what you have to

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Speaker 1: find your own way because you know we us are you.

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00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: I get like at least maybe ten fifteen brothers a

821
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: week hitting me, man, I got a story? Can I

822
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: do a podcast? And it's just like I tell him,

823
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: I say, whatever was James the way yours? Maybe something

824
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Speaker 1: else different, bro, But everybody just can't go get a

825
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Speaker 1: podcast and crack off like that. This is a lot

826
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Speaker 1: of work too. It's a lot of time that goes

827
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Speaker 1: into it. It It ain't just like we just come in

828
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Speaker 1: here and just six we just go in and talk.

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Speaker 1: If it was up to me, I would have told him, hell, yeah,

830
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Speaker 1: you can do a podcast. You you want to come

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Speaker 1: in and shoot in on the podcast, or you want

832
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Speaker 1: to just talk about your story, because I guarantee you

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00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: this is what helped, This is what helps Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: Now if they want to come in and be a guest,

835
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Speaker 1: I'm more than willing to do that. But what I

836
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: always like being I always like to help people manage

837
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: the expectations, right the first step, come in and talk

838
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: to us. Tell your story if it's something that because

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Speaker 1: right I don't decide who gets a podcast to people do.

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Speaker 1: If we have a guest and somebody is writing in

841
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,520
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842
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: him on it, then that's when I have to literally say,

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00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe it is to make an evest.

844
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,200
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845
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,319
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00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: You just told me about that situation with him. How

847
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: many months before we actually met, maybe two months to

848
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: three meetings, you know. So the thing it was after

849
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: while I had to think about as a businessman, think, okay,

850
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this thing now if I get this

851
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: cat some money, is he gonna run off? Is he

852
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 1: gonna trail over? You know? How can we do it

853
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: to where? Don't is? I'm not an lose either. And

854
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: one thing about it is um like a lot of

855
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: people don't know. We're don't talk about the business too much.

856
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: But James own is a part of against the chronicles.

857
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: It's not you know, you know, I'm just being real

858
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: now because we have to start doing stuff. What I

859
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: really want brothers to start doing is it's okay to

860
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: go to different people and do interviews and stuff like that,

861
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: but learn how learn how to own your own stuff

862
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: well and and and that's hard to do because I've

863
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: never thought that I would be in a position. And

864
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: that's one thing. We got to stop selling ourselves short.

865
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: But I never thought i'd be in a position to

866
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,839
Speaker 1: say I want a part of anything. So everybody is

867
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: not can't get that break, but the beginning of it,

868
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody got their own way and the way

869
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: it is right there. Chalk about your situation because everybody

870
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: out there doesn't live this life. The majority of the people.

871
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: Everybody can't say they pretty much did it rough like that,

872
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: or or they can't believe that you know, cats live

873
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: like that. But we all lived a ship and everybody's

874
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: story is different, you know what I'm saying. But not

875
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: to just let everybody know your business or this and that.

876
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 1: Like even even the podcast, the first thing I asked,

877
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: what you want to talk about? What you don't want

878
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: to talk about? Because I don't want to put you

879
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: out there and and and put you on the spot.

880
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: Me and Blair talked to about that type of ship.

881
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: It's up to me to shay and speak on what

882
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: what I speak on. If I don't want to talk

883
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: about it, I'm not scared of nobody. I'm not scared

884
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: of Lad. I'll just shut the funk up. So we

885
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: all have. I ain't even got the right word for it,

886
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: but we all. I'll make up my own mind exactly,

887
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: and I and I know how far I'm gonna go,

888
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: and and and to each his own. Everybody got their

889
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: own way. And that's the thing. Man. Like I said

890
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: before and before I say what I'm gonna say, I

891
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: don't have no problem with Lad. Lad has promoted this show,

892
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: He promotes stuff. Lad treats me with utmost respect every

893
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: time we talked. As far as I'm concerning, Vlad is

894
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: a good brother. I'm gonna tell you one thing that

895
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: I didn't like that M and Adam tween two did.

896
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: I admit Damon Dash could be an asshole. I think

897
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: Damon Dash is arrogant. I think cocky sometimes, you know.

898
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: I think he just kind of overtalks itself so much

899
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: with leads with which may lead the people who want

900
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: to see him lose. But I didn't like and it

901
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: wasn't so much just Lad. I don't like the way

902
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: Adam twenty two and them put him out there about

903
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: the fives. I thought that was kind of like, you know,

904
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: just kind of like it's almost like they got hard on.

905
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what daming him dead to him, but

906
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: I didn't like that because it kind of made him

907
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: look a little you know, at the end of the day,

908
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: I'm always right with my brothers, you know. I didn't

909
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know if that was so much

910
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: Lad as it was versus Adam, but then Adam have

911
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 1: been up there. I don't have personal problems with these

912
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: guys though, so when people hit us up in the comments,

913
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 1: I look at people sometimes it's not saying what the

914
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: hell is Vlad done to you for you to feel

915
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: that way about him? You feel what I mean because

916
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: the old on, because these brothers have a choice of

917
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: answering these questions when they go up there. I don't

918
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: see Vlad with no gun and nobody's head making somebody

919
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: answer some ship. Well, I'm on the same side, okay.

920
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: On this side of the table is black. On this

921
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: side of the table. It's it's me. M Blad has

922
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: got a platform. Blad want to speak on things and

923
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: get you to say things. That's gonna boost the views

924
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: on this show. Yeah. Sure. So if he didn't do that,

925
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: then how good is this show gonna be? And how

926
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 1: many people are gonna view it to say oh that's

927
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: that's or to see the next clip or whatever. And

928
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna happen if you don't get no juices ship.

929
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, you know what I'm saying. So he's doing

930
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: what he has to do. It's up to me being

931
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: to say, Man, I'm not gonna answering that ship. Why

932
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: are you asking me that it's being good? Because you

933
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: know all of that mac teen? Right? Um, Me and

934
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: mac teen was talking another day and he hit me

935
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: and it was kind of tripped me out because I

936
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: ain't talking to Mack in a minute. He hit me.

937
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: It was like, still you see the Lad interview we

938
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: did And I said, yeah, looked at it a little bit.

939
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: He was like, man, I wasn't about the answer of

940
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: that stuff, and that was his choice. He did this

941
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: move as hell. You know, Lad asked something, He's like,

942
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: what did you think? Do you know you know what

943
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: I mean. So I think it's everybody's choice, and I

944
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: think lad is pretty much doing his job. He got

945
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: a platform. If he was on there talking about with everybody,

946
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: would nobody be looking at that ship? Exactly? So who

947
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: do you blame when when if I asked you a

948
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: question and you answer it, that's my fault because I

949
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: answered that ship. You know what I'm saying, So however

950
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: came out of me. That's that's the same perception people

951
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna get. Yeah, exactly. And that's and that's the thing, man,

952
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 1: you know, just going back to all this, I look

953
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: at this guy, you know, going back to him that

954
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: we started off talking about now, brought him up just

955
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: to go back to the point about the prison industrial

956
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: system about how they like to keep brothers locked up.

957
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: You know. You know who came to his rescue, right,

958
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian. Why well, she's the one that brought it

959
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: up about when they want to put him back in jail.

960
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: She started advocating for him. And you know, I guess

961
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 1: this relationship that that that that um that the wests

962
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: have with our president is pretty strong, because you know,

963
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: Trump maybe to where he got to jail after five

964
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: more years. You know what, I don't know if it

965
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: was five more years he did. I got to go

966
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: back and do the research. Maybe we had to bring

967
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: the fact check back. Yes, we got research that. I

968
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: don't know if he did five more years, but he

969
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: definitely went back to sailing. Did some time. If it

970
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: was a month, it was too much, you know, it

971
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: was a month too much, you know, because they just

972
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, they let their brothers, gave his freedom and

973
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: then want to drop him back in jail, you know

974
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like I said, every time we put

975
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: our pants on and walk out the door and getting

976
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: board and some ship's double jeoparty, we we wake up

977
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: taking a chance. We wake up in the middle of

978
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: some ship. You think we have We think we have opportunity.

979
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: We think today're gonna be better. But as soon as

980
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: you walk out that door, all the bushes started hitting you.

981
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: Living is not designed for us, I mean to be comfortable.

982
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I ain't saying we can't be productive, because

983
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of black people out there that's doing

984
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: a thing. But to come from where we come from,

985
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: just being in the hood and and and living the

986
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: body life and all of the other bullshit in prison,

987
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: it's totally different. The odds are against us, it's against you.

988
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk how do you do it?

989
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: And it's it's just totally different. It's you know, our

990
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: our sisters out there ain't um like they used to be.

991
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's some good ass black

992
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: women out there, no doubt, you know what I'm saying.

993
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: But the ones that that was that was stick by

994
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: their dude. You know what I'm saying. When man, I

995
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: don't want to get all of my personal business, but

996
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: every every woman I had in my life, all my

997
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: baby mama's had good jobs. You know what I'm saying,

998
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: They just fucking with the wrong dude me because I couldn't.

999
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: I my weird life and my way of thinking wasn't

1000
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: getting the funk up and going to work and then

1001
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: coming home and bringing a woman my money. Being in

1002
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: the hood and hanging with the home girls and drinking

1003
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: and and and everything else was was my thing. I

1004
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: was more comfortable living like that. So that's why I say,

1005
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: we can't blame nobody for our get down. This is

1006
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: what I chose to do. At the end of the day,

1007
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 1: you got to learn how to appreciate what you can

1008
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: do and where you had at that point, because then

1009
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: I lost a lot of good friends. You know what

1010
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. You know, when they died, they didn't

1011
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: have that, you know, their son to carry on and

1012
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 1: they didn't have nothing. We just just young niggas and

1013
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: they're gone, you know what I'm saying. So, Man, I

1014
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: appreciate everything every day every morning. Oh for sure, you

1015
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: have to, man. And you know as far as that go, man,

1016
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: I think that, Um, we all have a we all

1017
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: have a major part to play in our own life, man,

1018
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: and we can pretty much. I never talked about my

1019
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: story too much. Man. I came out to California, man

1020
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: in and when I say, you know how they talked

1021
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: about the story of carrying the stick. You know, you

1022
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: see the little things back in the day with the

1023
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: guy with the kid carrying the stick with the little

1024
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: um tied tied up with his belongings in it on

1025
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: the tip of the stick. That was literally me. Man.

1026
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: I came out here from Cleveland, Ohio, man with um,

1027
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: I think maybe seenti five dollars in my pocket right

1028
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: and um, back in the day, they used to have

1029
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: them vultures that used to getting the back of the

1030
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: newspaper buy tickets anywhere in the country for two hundred dollars. Right.

1031
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: They didn't have no tickets to go to l A.

1032
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: They had tickets to go to Vegas. And so that's

1033
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: back then we had the maps. Right. I looked, I said,

1034
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: what Vegas ain't That was before the internet. It wasn't

1035
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: the internet to go on and got no stuff. Right,

1036
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: So I said, what man, Vegas ain't too far away

1037
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles, right, So I coordinated it. Man, where

1038
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 1: you figured? I was seventeen eighteen years old at the time.

1039
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: I caughta um the playing out the Vegas Man got

1040
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: in the Vegas like a twelve thirty at night. Man,

1041
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 1: got to the Greyhound station. Don't remember how I got there.

1042
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 1: I might have very well walked right went over there.

1043
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: Man went to call my mama. Man turned around, somebody

1044
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: on stole my luggage. Luckily I have my UM. Luckily

1045
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: I have my bus ticket in my thing. Man. So

1046
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: I caught a great hound man from Vegas and the

1047
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: Long Beach, California man and winning setting the bus um

1048
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: winning setting the studs man at Long Beach City College.

1049
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: Because I was out there to play football. I got

1050
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: the Long Beach City College man, maybe at four in

1051
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: the morning and setting the steps of the football office

1052
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: and just smiled and watched the sun rise. A lot

1053
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 1: of people might have been like, Man, I would have

1054
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: been panicking, But no, you figured I can't. Why well,

1055
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: how I wasn't shi out there for me? Man? If

1056
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to stay, you know how I wound

1057
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: up there in prison somewhere. It was just was nothing

1058
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: from me out there. I had to get it from

1059
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: out there. So I say that to say this, man,

1060
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: I came out here man, selling the steps. Man. The

1061
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: coach came over the morning, said are you okay? Like

1062
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just a young dude sitting on the steps,

1063
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: and I'll say, I'm Norman Steel. I'm here to play football,

1064
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so they took care

1065
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: of me. Man. I've been going strong ever since. Man.

1066
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: But you know, um, everything in life, man is up.

1067
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: We we determined how successful we are, man, and we

1068
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: really have to believe in ourselves, man, to the point

1069
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: to where we're willing to go put some skin in

1070
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: the game. I got up off my ass left Ohio,

1071
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: came out west and when I came out here doing

1072
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: a D eight James. You know, it was on a

1073
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: cracking out here. It wasn't an easy place to live.

1074
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: You know. You just couldn't up and say you just

1075
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: gonna move from the Midwest to California and just not

1076
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, it was banging was on at the fullest back.

1077
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: But you had to figure it out and at every

1078
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: we all got options. You can either go this way

1079
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: and get involved in this football shaped over with, or

1080
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: stick with it. You know what I'm saying. It's hard

1081
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: to stick with something positive when everything around you as negative.

1082
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because you started you don't

1083
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: know nobody out here. I gotta eat, but how how

1084
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: am I going to eat? So you gotta sit here

1085
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: and figure out a way how to eat. So it's

1086
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: it's just it's crazy, but you was one of the

1087
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: lucky ones. Everybody don't got it right here like that,

1088
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's one of our biggest problems.

1089
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: We all ain't strong like that, you know what I'm saying.

1090
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: And that's that's the demise of the majority of us,

1091
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: because we don't see nothing else but the hood. My

1092
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 1: vision was only comforting my vision was only the hood.

1093
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: My vision where where I'm gonna be at by six

1094
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: o'clock tonight, I'm gonna be on Pine Street getting drunk

1095
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: and motherfucker, I don't want to hear nothing now and

1096
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: after that smoking a fucking premo. Let's let's go roll

1097
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: trying to go to work. You know what I'm saying.

1098
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: That type of ship my vision was was short. I

1099
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: didn't have no nothing where. Okay, it's gonna take me

1100
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: here until after prison. Getting out of prison. Now getting

1101
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: out of prison, now you're back involved in and the

1102
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: ship that shunned you back to prison. So how do

1103
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: you work both of these to stay out of prison? Okay?

1104
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: One thing when you talk to police, police right to

1105
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: ship down, police put it in the computer. Now they

1106
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: got something. They know who you is the whole nine.

1107
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: We can't function doing what we're doing, and then everybody

1108
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: know who the funk we is. We've been a good

1109
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,959
Speaker 1: caught up. So now you gotta figure out to slow

1110
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 1: your role. Are you just continued running reckless? No, I

1111
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: ain't nothing, pression you know, ain't nothing, ain't nothing at all.

1112
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: So I mean, we just gotta understand our surrounded and

1113
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: what the fun is going on and where we're at

1114
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: at the time. Yeah, I just think, man, that um

1115
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: us as black man, and um I think the biggest

1116
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: thing we gotta stop doing. Man, it's just imagined, like

1117
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, because I hear people always talk about the man, right,

1118
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: like the white man, this the white man, and I

1119
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 1: think we give that too much power roll sometimes, Manah,

1120
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: you know that they have a certain amount of power.

1121
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: But this also was up to man to get up

1122
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: off our tail feathers and go do something. You know.

1123
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: It's it's like the thing is, man. When I first

1124
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: started this network, Man, it almost started by accident, right,

1125
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: But I never looked for that nobody, you know. For

1126
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 1: the first thing we have to do is get out

1127
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: the thing that somebody owes or something. Right, don't nobody

1128
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: owe us the damn thing. We owe it to ourselves, man,

1129
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: to really do as much as we can. Man. And

1130
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: if we're doing what we're supposed to do. Man, I

1131
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: tell people all the time, Man, if you keep swinging

1132
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: the X, man, and you keep swinging the hammer, events

1133
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 1: you to tree go fall. It might take a little

1134
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: longer than than it would it be if you had

1135
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: to change so or something like that. But you keep

1136
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: swinging the X man, eventually that tree go go and

1137
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 1: fall down, you know what I mean. So we really

1138
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: have to really, man, just still on our peas and queues, man,

1139
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: and stop being so damn lazy and look for the

1140
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: hook up all the time. We just gotta start believing

1141
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: in ourselves, come being and doing the streets. Man. We

1142
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: gotta start paying attention. The police job is to lock

1143
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: you up to say whatever they gotta say to get

1144
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: you to say what they want you to say, period, period.

1145
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: Stop hating your your your brother, let it ride until

1146
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: you see otherwise. The only way, motherfucker I can prove

1147
01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: to a motherfucker that that motherfucker telling on me if

1148
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: he's sitting in that chair and he pointed at me.

1149
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: These guys ain't gotta don't have to happen like that

1150
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: no more, because as soon as the police say y'ada, y'ada,

1151
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna went down, you feel me, we gotta start

1152
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: believing in our in our motherfucking's self. And some of

1153
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: the homeboys and everybody ain't like that, But the police

1154
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: create the ship, and we're so easy to let other

1155
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: people put it in our fucking mind to where we

1156
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: believe it, and then we go nuttie on the ship

1157
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: not knowing the truth. And that's because the majority of

1158
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: us are aren't uneducated, and and we have that fuck

1159
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: the mentality where I'm not listening to ship, I don't

1160
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: want to hear ship. We gotta change that with us.

1161
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna better. We have to really change that, man,

1162
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: because I look at so many man of us, like,

1163
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what the biggest opportunity it is

1164
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 1: man for us as a people in the last twenty years,

1165
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: Man is really on our own content. We have the

1166
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: talent to sing, We got telling you know music, you know, rappings, music,

1167
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: just all around entertainment. Man. It's stuff that we're doing

1168
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: right now for example. Man, we have the opportunity now

1169
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: more than every man. I tell people all the time

1170
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: when they you know, I used to work in the

1171
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: music industry. People ask me all the time, how could

1172
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: I get on to do this and do that? I

1173
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: should tell them, man, I always tell them, stop waiting

1174
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: for somebody to give you something. You can do your own.

1175
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: Ship are rappers of California. Are not the a cons

1176
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: of Africa. The money that they're putting out there and

1177
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: building schools and all of this other ship. We're not

1178
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: doing that with ourselves out here. We're not taking a

1179
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 1: building and opening that building and putting the ship that's

1180
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: constructive to teach our little homies, our youngsters that y'all

1181
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: can meet in the middle. You in this class, y'all

1182
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 1: doing this and you you're learning the trade. We're not

1183
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: opening the building. You know, these guys can come together

1184
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: and put their money together, because the first time of

1185
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: two black niggers put their money together, the first thing

1186
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: come out of their mouth that they can cheating me,

1187
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he coming up on me? Or why you

1188
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 1: getting more money than me? And and and we divide

1189
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: ourselves from that. We ain't no good together. Yeah, we

1190
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: really got to change that narrative, because you look at us,

1191
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: we do good business together everybody. I don't have no

1192
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: problems with nobody on the networking. And I think, man,

1193
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: we really have to change that narrative among us and

1194
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: start really just thinking that everybody to come with us

1195
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: as enemies and the part of that same this communication too.

1196
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: It's hard for us and I'm gonna use Games of

1197
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: Chronicles as an example. It's hard for for for brothers

1198
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: to be together and be successful and see each other

1199
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: come up, not watch you come up? Are you come up?

1200
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: And my whole concept since I start doing this is

1201
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: a we week is I want to see us come up.

1202
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't funk the fame aspect of it or this

1203
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: other bullshit that that all these other cats, I won't mind.

1204
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk about them. That's where is

1205
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: the money ain't no good. You're gonna do what you

1206
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: do with it. But it is as you build, you're

1207
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 1: creating enemies. You're creating that. To me, everybody is stagnated.

1208
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: Everybody you're not getting nowhere because you're hating on him

1209
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: and he hating on you and you hate on him.

1210
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: Now with us, I think if we're all on the

1211
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: same page, we're all good. But something that somebody's gonna

1212
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: fall off. You can't get fire motherfucking niggas together, black

1213
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: men together and everybody thinking be on the same page.

1214
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: It's hard. It's very hard. It is not just hard,

1215
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: it's almost impossible because I think the big elephant in

1216
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: the know, even with us, what we're talking about, the

1217
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: gangster chronic goes on. I think people have noticed that

1218
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: Alex hasn't been on the show, probably like the past

1219
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: three episodes. Right, Well, I'm gonna say this, and and

1220
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,959
Speaker 1: I've been getting a lot of that with the things

1221
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: that Alex has got going on. That Alex handah was business.

1222
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: Uh once again, James gonna try to hold this ship down.

1223
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 1: You know, we gotta wait on Reggie. And then here

1224
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: comes the creator of the Gangs to Chronicles. Had to

1225
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: come in and sit down because you know, my two

1226
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: hosts had gone, My my my brothers is gone. You

1227
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I didn't ask for this ship.

1228
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how to do this, you

1229
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So here you are, and I

1230
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: know people are gonna ask questions. Everybody knows where Reggie at.

1231
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, can't wait till you get

1232
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: his ass home. Well, me and Reggie gonna have a

1233
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: fight in June. Then we're gonna have a drink and

1234
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: then we're gonna come to work. That's how I see it.

1235
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, So get that ship out of the way.

1236
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: And and you know the craziest shit about it is

1237
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you that's how we're so fucked up.

1238
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: The people are Reggie sitting to jail. Let Reggie do

1239
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: is goddamn time and jail. Reggie don't need to know

1240
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: what the fund is really going on on the street.

1241
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: But people are are are getting that Reggie and talking

1242
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: to Reggie. That makes his time harder. You might not

1243
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: understand that, and people don't get it, you know, just

1244
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: sitting in jail to knowing what's going on on the streets.

1245
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: You want to be there, you know what I'm saying.

1246
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: You want to be there, um and and and and

1247
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 1: Reggie's living like that, Reggie and jail, knowing the whole

1248
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: everything what's going on, and and that Reggie do his time.

1249
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 1: That that's gonna make his time harder at the end

1250
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: of it, because now that you know he's gonna come

1251
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 1: home and just people need to stop talking to him

1252
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: and being in his ear and let Reggie do his time.

1253
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: When Reggie come home, Reggie gonna be ready to go

1254
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: to work, ready to do his thing and just get

1255
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: back into it, especially getting that them with some negative ship,

1256
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: because you know that's what both But I here all

1257
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,440
Speaker 1: the time. You know, well I heard that y'all did

1258
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: this and that, and you know half the ship. Don't

1259
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: be true, like where you get that from every once again,

1260
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: a man got a man gonna make up his mind.

1261
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: Don't react to react off of some bullshit that you

1262
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: don't even know is right or wrong. Because I can

1263
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: make a phone call, I can get in touch with you.

1264
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: And that's one of our biggest problems. We don't want

1265
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: to look at each other in the eye. And had

1266
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 1: that conversation. We don't want to be one hunt with

1267
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: each other. But we say one hunt every day, but

1268
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: we don't want to keep it one hunted. So a

1269
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 1: motherfucker gonna shot away. But when this cat right here

1270
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: trying to be one huney with you, he on some

1271
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: bullshit or he this, and that the story gets turned around. Yeah, exactly.

1272
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm pretty sure that e Gene deal interview we

1273
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: did a few weeks ago. I'm pretty sure somebody that

1274
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 1: went back until Reggyo. They Haggene on the show when

1275
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,320
Speaker 1: he said this net butine did he apologize to that

1276
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: man on the show. And it was the beat and

1277
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: it was letting noon that we ride with racing. Well,

1278
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: everybody out there, No, I'm a Robert Reggie. The only

1279
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 1: problem I got it, and what we don't have a

1280
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: day with each other's loyalty and and I think every

1281
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: since I started this, since Reggie introduced me to and

1282
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm and I'm saying this and I ain't gonna say

1283
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: no more introduced me to the the the interviews and

1284
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: the in the gamest chronicles and all that I thought

1285
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: coming in with him, I'm doing. We're good, So showing

1286
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: my loyalty to you, Alex Brian, the whole nine. And

1287
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: that's always been my biggest slogan. If something happened while

1288
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: we're all here together and the motherfucker come tripping, I'm tripping.

1289
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: I'm just it ain't just your fight is our fight.

1290
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: If you take anything outside of that and go next

1291
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: door and and switching around, that's on you. That's on you.

1292
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: My loyalty having having changed, it's not gonna change. So

1293
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: when you get to talking and saying it about me, Nick,

1294
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 1: I don't think I ain't gonna bite back you bark

1295
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: at me. I'm gonna bark at you. You know what

1296
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I gotta I gotta right to you

1297
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: feel me. And I'm not trying to bring up the

1298
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: other ship, but we shouldn't if we're rocking together like

1299
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: that I ain't got nothing bad to say. I ain't

1300
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 1: gonna say nothing about you or no other motherfucker can

1301
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: sit in my presence and talk about you. That's just

1302
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: my loyalty to money. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's

1303
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: how it should be, man. And uh, you know the

1304
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: thing is, man of us, I go go back to

1305
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: it again. It's communication. Man. Like you said, it's like

1306
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,720
Speaker 1: we have a problem with looking each other in the

1307
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: eye and telling each other what it is that we

1308
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,720
Speaker 1: got on our minds. You know what I mean. Some

1309
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: of us was taught that back in our days, that

1310
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: when you look at him man, looking him in his

1311
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: eyes and talk to him, you know, don't don't talk

1312
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: to me with your head down. Catch these days, they

1313
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: ain't getting that. The younger generation ain't getting that. And

1314
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: I think, how do we put that back? You need

1315
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: we got boys, everybody that have kids. We need to

1316
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 1: instill that in them, you know what I'm saying, Our nephews,

1317
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 1: our cousins, and then they let other motherfuckers know. This

1318
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 1: is how men talk. You know what I'm saying, This

1319
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: is how we're supposed to be. If you got something

1320
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: to say to me, said, well, I'm offended or not.

1321
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: If it's wrong, I'm gonna tell you why it's wrong.

1322
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 1: But if it's the truth, I can't say, ship, you

1323
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: can't do nothing about that. It is what it is.

1324
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: But we don't accept that. We just want to get

1325
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 1: mad and we want to be violent. We are not

1326
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: just yeah we are. We were violing creatures, we somewhe

1327
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: but I mean, it's it's it's so easy for us

1328
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: to change who we are and what we want to be.

1329
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: Let's just stop blaming every motherfucking body for for our problems.

1330
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: Because ain't no motherfucker on the TV told me to

1331
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 1: get my gun and go shoot this motherfucker. Ain't nobody

1332
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,320
Speaker 1: on TV told me I need to drib somebody to

1333
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: eat that. I know this, I know what I'm doing.

1334
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: It ain't your fault, it ain't your fault. We let's

1335
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: stop blaming everybody for our ship. Let's get our ship right.

1336
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: I swear the guy when I get good and and

1337
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,919
Speaker 1: then and ready, then I'll be able to show instead

1338
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: of talk that ship, I'll be able to walk that walk.

1339
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Because I've always preached that

1340
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: I need a house for for for boys to get

1341
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: him in there and then to show them like my

1342
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: grandson so much practice. I'm rubbing him at three years old. Man,

1343
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: and and and I feel good because I didn't use

1344
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: that formula on my two sons. Us they they they

1345
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 1: my voice straighten them niggers out. I didn't have to

1346
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: whoop my sons. I went by the older son one time,

1347
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 1: my youngest son. As soon as I got aggressive, he

1348
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: put up the prayer of hands okay, dad, please please please.

1349
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying my my grandson, it's it's

1350
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 1: like hands on when he when he when he sucking up,

1351
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: stand right here and he no, no, and start doing this.

1352
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: I want to laugh at him, but I got him

1353
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: right here and he put his head down and do this,

1354
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 1: lift your head out, talk to Papa, look at me

1355
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: and and and he sit there and he looked at

1356
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: me like this, and he said no or whatever for

1357
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: going on. The situation might be. He don't put his

1358
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 1: head back down no more. And he talked to me.

1359
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 1: I want to teach him not to be scared of me. Yeah,

1360
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: I understand me, but we get it twisted when we

1361
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 1: don't understand that. And you know, some cats and you

1362
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: know when I see him jerkob pull away or don't

1363
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 1: want to come close to me. Don't be afraid of me.

1364
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm your papa. I got you. You know what I'm saying.

1365
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 1: And everything I do, he's attached to it. And he

1366
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: started doing this ship I do. So he getting it

1367
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: and he understanding. And I wanted to rub off on

1368
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,599
Speaker 1: him because the way I feel now and about myself,

1369
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 1: I'm just wrapped up in so much good ship. I'm cool, Yeah, exactly,

1370
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of positive stuff going on. Man.

1371
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm not angry whatsoever, no more. Yeah, man, And that's

1372
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: good because you've been able to use this as a

1373
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: platform to heal man. You know when I think that's

1374
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: what it is about. You know, the thing is, man,

1375
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 1: a lot of us need therapy. Man, a lot of

1376
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: us we don't need. Can't nobody sitting me in the

1377
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: chair and talk to me and tell me about me?

1378
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: And I and I made that quite clear in the

1379
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: fourth grade with a with a psychiatrist. That psychiatrist don't

1380
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: know jack shit about me. You can't tell me what

1381
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 1: I am today. You can't tell me. Take that pencil

1382
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: and draw all of those those squares and triangles and

1383
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 1: and make that start right there. Okay, I'll do that.

1384
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: I sat there with the pencil. That motherfucker walked out

1385
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 1: the dough, I put the put the the circle on

1386
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 1: the paper, and I traced that motherfucker and and and

1387
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: I did all of them. The butterfly, all that ship.

1388
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: I traced it and and put the pilce down and

1389
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 1: left it right there. Just say he ain't crazy for real,

1390
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: real talking, I'm not finn. I'm not gonna play that game.

1391
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna figure the easy way out. So

1392
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: it's that. I don't think it's nothing room with therapy, though, James,

1393
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: you know some people, some people need it, man, you

1394
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: know some people. You think about it. You got fortunate,

1395
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: man that she was able to go out and talking,

1396
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, able to get it all like your system

1397
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,360
Speaker 1: with this. Everybody don't have that though, you know what

1398
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean. This didn't this, this, this was the better

1399
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 1: part of it. I had to get to understand where

1400
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to go and with the fun what I

1401
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 1: don't want to do no more, what I was uncomfortable

1402
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: with doing. I didn't want to carry my pistol on

1403
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 1: the daily. I don't want to go out there and

1404
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: shoot at a brother that that this should have don't

1405
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: mean nothing. It don't mean nothing. Game banging was was

1406
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: senseless at this point to me, Why continue to destroy

1407
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: when you could be a total different way? Why, I mean,

1408
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: just just just going to sleep, just the nightmares, just

1409
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 1: to think in the way I was thinking looking out

1410
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: the fucking windows. Think. I mean, it's so much ship,

1411
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 1: come with this. It ain't just you game banging and

1412
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: you're just living that life and everything is is easy. Man.

1413
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,640
Speaker 1: I had to find a way, liquor, what's my way

1414
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: to cope with a lot of this ship. I had

1415
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: to get fucked up drunk, pissy drunk, not to even

1416
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 1: worry about that type of ship. So man, it's it's

1417
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: it's a it's a process. Here's a big learning process.

1418
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: So if you're not ready to go through that, then

1419
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. You're just gonna be where you at.

1420
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: So every man, that just every individual has to figure

1421
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: out a way and what's the best way for me

1422
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: to change get my ship together? And and that's where

1423
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: it all starts. Once you figure that out, and and

1424
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: and and learn how to respect your homeboys, and learn

1425
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:56,320
Speaker 1: how to respect your mama. Learn how to respect your sisters,

1426
01:17:56,360 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 1: because if you don't respect your mama and your sisters,

1427
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna respect nowatire on the street. But on

1428
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: that note, I mean, you know, we got great stuff coming.

1429
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 1: We got uh Willie D coming, Yeah, we got Willie

1430
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: D coming up. If that brother every hits me back again,

1431
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: we got mac ten coming up. We got a lot

1432
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: of incredible stuff coming. Man. We want to thank you

1433
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: all man for sitting here with us today on another

1434
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 1: episode of the Gains the Chronicles. Make sure now we

1435
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: got something that's real special for y'all. We have an

1436
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: option on YouTube for the YouTubers out there to where

1437
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: you can join for our premium channel and you can

1438
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: get an extra episode of the Gamest the Chronicles every month,

1439
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,200
Speaker 1: something that don't nobody else see, man, something nobody else see.

1440
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: You'll get to see my man right here, James go Live.

1441
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: We have some stuff from James coming up on there

1442
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: for you. But and it's not that expensive. Man. We're

1443
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 1: talking about from a dog nine nine or four nine

1444
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,719
Speaker 1: nine a month. So if you want to take advantage

1445
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 1: of that, man, hit the joint button right now. All right,

1446
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,599
Speaker 1: we see you all at minute. I got one more thing.

1447
01:18:55,680 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: Um my boy, Nino Capaccino. I got to give a

1448
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 1: shout out to him, and I think it's only right.

1449
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: That's just my boy. Uh, he got his podcast, ain't

1450
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: going rules of engagement check him out. He owned some

1451
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 1: positive ship. He's trying and I'm with the uplift. I'm

1452
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 1: trying to support my brother because he's doing his ship

1453
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: on his own. One hunter to you, rules of engagement,

1454
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:27,799
Speaker 1: check him out, Nino Brown. I mean, where's where's ninos?

1455
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: Some podcasts? That is everywhere I've listened on Spotify And

1456
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: what I do is I get a link for you

1457
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: and I put it in our things so we can

1458
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: get their brothers subscribed. But shut off the Nino cappuccino

1459
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: all the time. One we're out