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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back Bachelor Happy Hour listeners. Tasha and

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Speaker 1: I just had a little dance party before just kicked

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Speaker 1: this off. The caffeine is kicking in these days, and

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Speaker 1: you know what, it's a big week because we had

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Speaker 1: a major finale just go down last night, and I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to get into some of the recap, but

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Speaker 1: I more so can't wait to get into our guests today.

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Speaker 1: And I'm so excited because I have my girl Tasha

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Speaker 1: on today. Next week, she'll she'll be taking a break now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm still here filling in for Rachel, but she'll be

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Speaker 1: back next week to reclaim her throne. So don't you

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Speaker 1: less stress. I'm still I'm not ready to leave yet.

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Speaker 1: I'm still having fun. I know this has been such

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Speaker 1: a great time. It's fun to switch things up, and

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Speaker 1: people don't always love change, but I feel like you

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Speaker 1: needed every now and again, and that's what we've had

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Speaker 1: bringing you on taking over Bachelor Happy Hour with me.

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Speaker 1: That's what we saw go down last night during after

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Speaker 1: the final rows. You know, obviously Chris Harrison in his

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Speaker 1: typical fashion, but that's okay because we got something new

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Speaker 1: and fresh, a different perspective, something that I think was needed.

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Speaker 1: So let's just get into last night while we're here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but we have the newly announced bachelorette, not Katie because

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Speaker 1: she's currently in the bubble, but we have none other

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Speaker 1: than my Minnesota girl Michelle coming on and we're so thrilled.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've just been anticipating this conversation. But before that,

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Speaker 1: t Shaw, we saw something very different last night. So

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Speaker 1: let's get into I don't even want to recap the episode.

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Speaker 1: I just want to get into after the final Rows

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Speaker 1: because that was like the big ticket item, the most

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Speaker 1: historical impactful I think after the final Rows Batchel Nation

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Speaker 1: has ever seen. So overall, did you have any highlights,

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Speaker 1: any conversations that really stuck out to you? You know,

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Speaker 1: I just actually say I really appreciated the way that

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Speaker 1: Emanel just approached all the conversations, like he did kind

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Speaker 1: he also he didn't let Matt or Rachel off the hook,

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Speaker 1: like he grilled kind of them both as well as

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Speaker 1: Michelle asking straight up like are you still in love

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Speaker 1: with him? And like he's right here is the last

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Speaker 1: time you're going to see him? You have anything else

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Speaker 1: to say, And I just thought he bought such a

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Speaker 1: fresh perspective and I'm really happy he was the one

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Speaker 1: that was chosen for Afar just putting that out there

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Speaker 1: at first, I am I am too. I think like

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Speaker 1: it's such a weird position to be in. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is nothing like we've ever seen before. Chris Harrison

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Speaker 1: has been doing this twenty years. But I think Emmanuel

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Speaker 1: was the perfect host because it's not like he's infiltrated

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Speaker 1: with Batchel Nation. He's right biased. He approached each never

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Speaker 1: conversation very uniquely, I think, and you could really tell

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Speaker 1: that he sat in those emotions of like when he

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Speaker 1: having to like relive and stir up some of the emotions.

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Speaker 1: But I mean the part where he first sat down

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Speaker 1: with bat James and said, look like, a conversation between

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Speaker 1: two women is completely different than a conversation with two athletes.

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Speaker 1: But like, the conversation between two black men is something unique,

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Speaker 1: and that is something that we have never ever ever

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Speaker 1: and the issues of this franchise and yes, still the

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Speaker 1: love story. I thought. The moment he said that, I

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Speaker 1: different perspective than we've ever gotten, and we ever we

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Speaker 1: would never get really exactly like christ person couldn't have

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Speaker 1: And even if he tried to. This is the thing

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Speaker 1: a totally different level of having someone actually understand what

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Speaker 1: it's like to as Matt James continue to say, be

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Speaker 1: soon as he said that, I was like, no, this

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Speaker 1: else could really. It was just and Chris, I mean

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Speaker 1: It was raw, as he said at times, it was uncomfortable,

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, like there was one. I mean, there wasn't

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Speaker 1: This hits hard, But like this is what we need

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Speaker 1: I think everybody know you're gonna say it's so good.

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Speaker 1: He got, he got well. He his quote wasn't I

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Speaker 1: don't want to watch it. I tried to write it

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Speaker 1: down word for word, but he says, prejudice is a

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Speaker 1: we've been that girl. We've been similar to Rachel. We

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Speaker 1: Like sometimes you don't know what you don't know. But

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Speaker 1: when he said, you know, prejudice is a willful commitment

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Speaker 1: because I'm sitting there, like, you know, I can feel

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Speaker 1: But but he just articulates it in such a good

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Speaker 1: tell that Rachel was really struggling in her conversation with him,

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Speaker 1: it was just like Okay. It kind of makes you

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Speaker 1: And so I just I'm just so happy that Emmanuel

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Speaker 1: the feelings that she uses to motivate her to do better, yes,

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Speaker 1: imagine how your students feel watching you. And let's be honest,

428
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: Like I can say this because I'm from Minnesota, I

429
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: lived there for twenty eight years, that not a ton

430
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: happens in that state, you know, like we have some

431
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: claim to fame, like we had Prayans, But like I

432
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: feel like when I was on spatch Rode, it was

433
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: like the coolest thing that had happened to Minnesota in

434
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: a long time. And now I think that I could

435
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: probably speak from experience. I know like that the people

436
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 1: that live there are probably going to be so excited

437
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,360
Speaker 1: and embrace you. But how has it been for your

438
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: students who maybe not they don't necessarily watch the show,

439
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: but they know kind of you know, oh that my

440
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: teacher's on the screen and she's going to become the

441
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: batch roode. How are they receiving everything and like celebrating you.

442
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,440
Speaker 1: So I had the students that were on that hometown episode.

443
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: Those were my students that I had the previous two

444
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: years actually, and so I knew them really well, they

445
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: knew me really well. And to leave for the film

446
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: of The Bachelor, I had only been in the classroom

447
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: that I'm in now with those students for two weeks,

448
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: and so this is kind of a new group that

449
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm working with, and there's been a lot of adjustments

450
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, and so we're kind of in

451
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: a position where it's we're like on week two of

452
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: getting to know each other, and nobody had mentioned anything

453
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 1: for the first week or so, and then I had

454
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: to leave to tape Afar, and when I came back,

455
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: I was completely interrogated, and they had found out and

456
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: they had all of the questions in the world and

457
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: they were miss young. Why didn't you tell us and

458
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, can you imagine having this conversation

459
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 1: with your students, well, you know exactly, And so I

460
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: let them ask a few questions. And I had thought

461
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: they found out earlier because someone said, miss Young, I

462
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: know that you're famous, and I'm thinking, okay, here we

463
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 1: go and they're like, yeah, you're on TV. And I'm like,

464
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: all right, I got by so so much time without

465
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: actually having people find out we're saying anything. And then

466
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, we're basketball. So there are all these

467
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: moments where I thought they knew, But according to last week,

468
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 1: they all know. Now. Um, I'm not sure of if

469
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: they know about the whole bachelorette thing quite yet. Um,

470
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 1: they'll have time the basketball that someone's gonna find out.

471
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: But I mean they think it's pretty cool. Um, their

472
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: families or their parents watch, and I've spoken highly of me.

473
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're a little star struck at times. But

474
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: you know, when I give them homeless back into shape.

475
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: So if you get your A on your test and

476
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,679
Speaker 1: you can ask me a question like, yeah, one thing

477
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: I do want to touch on throughout your entire season

478
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: with Matt and even at Afar and the conversation that

479
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: you had in the last episode with Matt's family was

480
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: a lot of it was about trust, which I think

481
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: any woman can late to wanting and meant to man

482
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: can relate to wanting in a relationship. It was such

483
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: a big thing for you and Matt, and obviously at

484
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: the end of this you were very blindsided in the

485
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 1: way that he ended things. You know, most people go

486
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: into that last day either expecting to get engaged or

487
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: get broken up with at that older quote unquote if

488
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: you will say that, so, I'm sure you didn't expect

489
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 1: him to call things off when he did. So what

490
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: was it like when in terms of trust, what was

491
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: it like when when he was sitting there talking with

492
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: you about to leave and breaking things off? And then

493
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: is it still something moving forward that you keep high

494
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 1: on your list in relationships when you become the batchright

495
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: moving forward? Yeah, it's gonna I mean when after people watch,

496
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: it's very clear that I didn't excuse me, I didn't

497
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,719
Speaker 1: know it was coming. It was a thing where I'm

498
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: a person that I read other people's body language, and

499
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, if I kind of felt like he was

500
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: holding back a little bit, I would have two and

501
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: I would have you know, kind of figured out what's wrong,

502
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: what's going on. But that was something that you know,

503
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: Matt and I even spoke about. He kind of put

504
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: on a face that day. And as much as I

505
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: understand that, it was also really difficult because, as you know,

506
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,959
Speaker 1: being on the show a few hours or minutes together,

507
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: your relationship really is expedited. This is not a situation

508
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: where you know, you spend all day, every day together

509
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 1: and it's a slow moving relationship. It's like every hour,

510
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: every minute counts. And so for me, it was so

511
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: hard to continue to put myself in that vulnerable position

512
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: and fall even throughout that, you know, repelling the chateau date,

513
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: and continue to fall to then get to the evening portion.

514
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: And these uneasy feelings were going on the entire time,

515
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 1: and so I think that was the difficult part is

516
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: I understood that things were going to change fast. I

517
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: understand that I wanted the best for him, and the

518
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: show was about him find his person, But it was

519
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: more for me caught off guard as I asked how

520
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: he was doing it, asked, you know, all of those

521
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: questions during the day, and I kind of kept getting

522
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: a positive response, and so that was the hardest part.

523
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 1: For me is that I felt like I did the

524
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: groundwork to you know, cover my bases, to make sure, okay, cool,

525
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep being vulnerable, and then it was

526
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, pulled away a little bit and also the

527
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: nature of this show, and I get that, but that

528
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:30,959
Speaker 1: I honestly think I was sitting there trying not to

529
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: throw up because my stomach was turning when I was happening,

530
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: and so it was difficult. It really is. But I'm

531
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: doing okay well. For women who have gone through something

532
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: similar and have been you know, we've all been now

533
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: broken up in very weird ways, very probable ways. It's

534
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: never comfortable. It's never easy. You know, at the end

535
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: of the day, I hope that you realize, like you

536
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: came out on top, you're winning now and every I

537
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: hate to say this because it's so cliche, but everything

538
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: happens for a reason. And I think you, like you

539
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: needed that moment and I'm kind of glad that he

540
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: did it prior to actually that last day where you

541
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: think you could potentially be getting engaged. But yeah, it's

542
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: never easy, like and it's so hard to articulate those

543
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: breakups because like when you're blindsided at least for me,

544
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: like I'm shocked. I don't know how to put into

545
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: words when I'm feeling. But you expressed yourself so well,

546
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: and in the moment, I think women especially I mean

547
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: me watching it, when you were like, well do I

548
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: need to fight for you? Like what is this? I

549
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: was like, yeas girl, you asked those questions because I

550
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: felt like when I was being broken up with on

551
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: the after the Bachelor season, I just like shut down

552
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: completely and didn't have any words, like didn't you couldn't

553
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: even fathom the questions at that point. And so I

554
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: think in that moment during that breakup and then even

555
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: at Afar, like you asked the right questions, like you

556
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: worded everything so well where you left it all out

557
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: on the table. I hope you got your closure. How

558
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: are you feeling now after seeing him on that stage? Yeah?

559
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: I after that up, it was really hard for me

560
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: to get closure, and there was a conversation that I

561
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: wanted to have because I was really struggling, and as

562
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: I was coming back to Minnesota leaving Pennsylvania, it was

563
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: really I felt like I was spinning in circles and

564
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: I felt like I was trying to put the relationship

565
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: down and I had, but emotionally I wasn't able to

566
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: move forward. It was really difficult. And so because I

567
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: wasn't able to get that closure from Matt at that time,

568
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: I think that's what was making it hard for me.

569
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: But I think the most valuable thing that I've actually

570
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: learned from this process is that I now know that

571
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: I can get the answers and closure within myself to

572
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: give that. So even walking on that stage for Afar,

573
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: I had the closure I needed. I had some questions,

574
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: but I also wasn't putting the ability for me to

575
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: get closure on Matt's responses, if that makes sense, and

576
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: so so yeah, it was it was hard to sit

577
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: down and have those conversations and honestly get back into

578
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: that headspace of leaving and what that felt like and

579
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: the questions that I had at that time because in

580
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: the end I had already given myself closure. I love

581
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: that you say that you are able to ask the

582
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: questions in order to get the response you kind of need,

583
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: like you were doing the ground where you could try

584
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: to understand if, like you know, get the reassurance, because

585
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: I feel like it's so important in this process and

586
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why you can make this

587
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: such a transforming journey if you will on yourself, because

588
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: again you're shut off from the world, but you rely

589
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: on yourself to make those questions and decisions. You don't

590
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: have anybody else to really consult, being like okay, so

591
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: should I call them or text? You don't have the

592
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that, So you like are sitting in

593
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: the moment and you're trying to get as much clarity

594
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: as you can, and when you don't get it, it's

595
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: more like a feeling. You have to just be like no,

596
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: like I know better, you know, and she always gonna

597
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: go with this, Oh yeah. But the fact is, as

598
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: hard as this journey was for you, I'm so I'm

599
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: kind of happy you went through it. So that way,

600
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: when you are the bachelorette, you kind of understand how

601
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: these people are feeling, you know, in that moment of time.

602
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: And again, as hard as it was for him to

603
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: break up with you that day, as opposed to like

604
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: making you go to the ultar like I've even been

605
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: there in that situation, and as weird as it, it's

606
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: hard to comprehend he was doing that because he cares

607
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: for you, so it's like one day you will You're

608
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: gonna see it very soon. But um, you'll be in

609
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: that situation to where you can kind of I don't know,

610
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: you'll you'll be feeling the same things. You'll kind of

611
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: get it on a different level. So but the fact

612
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: that you were able to I don't know. Yeah, and

613
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: that's something back, Yeah, I look back and understand is

614
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: that you know, I'm very a black and white person

615
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: at times asking the questions and just just say yes

616
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: or just saying that I don't need a reasoning. Thats do.

617
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: I fight for that too? Okay, you know, but I wish,

618
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: But I mean to go back to what you said also, Becca,

619
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: it really has helped me think about what I would

620
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: do for the men coming in on my season of

621
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: how do I handle those situations? How you know, when

622
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: someone is pouring their heart out to me and maybe

623
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: I don't feel the same way, how can I respond

624
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: in an honest and authentic way, you know, at times

625
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: when I know that the relationship is no longer going

626
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: to be there and I'm going to be putting down

627
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: or I have to put it down. And so yeah,

628
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: it's such a hard balance. I mean, yeah, I'd be

629
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: curious to learn about any tips you have for that.

630
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that this is going to be

631
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: the first of many conversations that you will have with

632
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: all of us women. And welcome, I guess let me

633
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: just say that to welcome to this Bachelorrette family. If

634
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: you will, we will. You will soon be added to

635
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: the group chat between all of us women. It's such

636
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: a fun, uplifting, supportive group, like we're all behind you,

637
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: supporting both you and Katie all of the way. So

638
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: and anytime, I mean like we are all open books here,

639
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: like come to us at any point. We will give

640
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: you lots of advice. I don't know if you should.

641
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: I mean, what's madness. You probably shouldn't take my advice,

642
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: but stop it, stop it, Yes you should. But you

643
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: have something that Matt James never had, Like he had

644
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: never filmed anything before, like this was his first season

645
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: going into it blind with you women, and so now

646
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: you have the ability to know. Okay, I've been on

647
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: the contestant side, I've been one of many women, so

648
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: I kind of know how the men will be feeling

649
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: in this situation or if this were to happen, or

650
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: if somebody were to say this, or if they're upset

651
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 1: over something like you can you can revert to where

652
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: you just were in Matt season to know kind of

653
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: how you would be feeling and how to navigate that,

654
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: which I think gives you such a like up. You know,

655
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: it'll help you empathize with them so much more than

656
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: what Matt was ever able to do. Um, So you're

657
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: in a really great position for that. But like, let's

658
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: just get in to the men. Let's get into the future,

659
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: because that is the exciting stuff, like big, you just

660
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: lit up. Okay, I saw you show. Let me just

661
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: say this one more time. You are the bachelorette. It

662
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: still hasn't sunk it a thousand more times. And then

663
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: maybe I'll wake up one morning and be like, Okay,

664
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: you might not like I still to this day, three

665
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: years I'll wake up and I'm like that, like, did

666
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: that actually happen? I will feel like that for a

667
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: while and I still got I got a man by

668
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: my side. I'm like, but where did you come from?

669
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: Oh yes, let's just look down at that ring, like,

670
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we went through all of that to get

671
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: to this moment. I'm telling you right now, I don't

672
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: think it takes a minute to think it. It's such

673
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: a surreal experience. But I'm very happy to be passing

674
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: my crown to one of my favorites along with another favorite.

675
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: So I'm happy for you. We are so excited. Oh

676
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: my gosh, Michelle. Yeah, but you are glowing and it's

677
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: just incredible. And it's only just begun. It's only just begun.

678
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: To buckle up. Okay, one thing before we get into

679
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: the future and all the incredible things. What's something major

680
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: or something that we didn't learn about you on your

681
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: season that you feel like the world now that you

682
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: are announced as Batcherette, needs to know about Michelle Young.

683
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: It's such a strong question. I think that, I mean,

684
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: this is a side that people maybe had glimpses of.

685
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: But I am pretty goofy, Like I'm pretty, you know,

686
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: don't get embarrassed easily. I'm constantly laughing at myself. I

687
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: don't really take life too seriously, but I can have

688
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: serious conversations, and so yeah, I think that America might

689
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: see my goofy side come out a little bit more.

690
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: And I mean they saw they saw glimpses of it

691
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: in the bloopers. But yeah, yeah, I like to joke,

692
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: ram I can't wait. I mean you you seem so

693
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: well rounded, like intelligent, kind, patient, and we did see

694
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: the goofy side you out of any of the women

695
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: on Matt season, I think brought out that fun, playful,

696
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 1: goofy side to him. I agree with that. I completely

697
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: agree with that, and you picked it up like right away.

698
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: It was never like it took a little bit of progression.

699
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: It was just like boom boom boom. But wait, okay,

700
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: so something that they haven't learned about you? But what

701
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: about like for your relationship, like something that you're like

702
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: truly looking for in a guy, and what kind of

703
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: guys do you date? What's your type? What are you

704
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: looking for? I think, you know, I think the biggest

705
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: thing that I look for and someone is if they

706
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: have that intrinsic motivation. I'm a very motivated person. I

707
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: have a lot of goals. I want to make an impact,

708
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: and that's super important for me to have that in

709
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: my partner. And you can bring the best side out

710
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: of each other when you're with the right person, and

711
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: I love that. But also I think it's super important

712
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: for whoever I'm with to come into that relationship with

713
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: that intrinsic motivation, because that's something that I'm really attracted

714
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: to somebody who is not just going to super cliche

715
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: talk to talk, but also walk the walk. Also emotional intelligence.

716
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, are you not that you have to perfectly

717
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: be able to talk about your feelings, but to know

718
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: what you're feeling and to be empathetic to the person

719
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: that you're with, and to be open minded. I mean,

720
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: have an argument with someone who's closed minded, and that's

721
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: that's a really difficult situation. And so I think those

722
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 1: are the two things that I'm really looking for challenged

723
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. I love that I can't wait to

724
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: watch this season. I'm just gonna say, like I obviously

725
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: have to watch it for the podcast, but I have

726
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: no doubt that you are going to have some of

727
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: the best conversations. You are going to push these men

728
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: in ways that they've probably never been pushed before. And

729
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: I mean in terms of emotional intelligence. You know, going

730
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: on the show, like there are certain like everything is

731
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: so sped up, and there are certain conversations and discussions

732
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: that have to be had, like very very early on,

733
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: and I think it's a good test to see who

734
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: is able to kind of get themselves out of that

735
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: comfort zone and who might be more guarded and able

736
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: to open up. And I think you will do an

737
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: incredible job at that with the men. I think that

738
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 1: they'll be able to feel comfortable with you in the past.

739
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: Have you ever dated like a certain type of guy?

740
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: Like are you? Are you like? Is there anything on

741
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: your list that you like? Are really besides the motivation

742
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: in EI like looks wise like anything else or that

743
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: you want or do not want that? What is a

744
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: hard no for you? Oh? I'm like in the hem

745
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, to see with eyes open? Yea, yeah,

746
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: that was. You could add that to my list everyone

747
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: listening up, all the casting producers add that to the

748
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: very top. But I think one thing. I mean, I'm

749
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: a very active person as far as lifestyles, and so

750
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 1: I go to the gym, I lift weights, I stay active,

751
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: I you know, play on club basketball or kickball or

752
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: all these different things. And not that you have to

753
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: be this chiseled athletic person, right, but I want you

754
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: to be able to live fit lifestyle with me because

755
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: I think that's, you know, something that can hold two

756
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: people together and when life gets busy and you both

757
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: are going to work or you have all these other

758
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: things going on. Being able to go to the gym

759
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: together and knock out a quick workout is something that

760
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: I would love to have in my partner, and so

761
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: I think that's something that I really look for. They

762
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: got to keep up with you. You got to be

763
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: able to keep up with me. You know, if you

764
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: could keep up with the whole classrom of kids, that

765
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: means you got like you got the energy to do it.

766
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: They better stab. Oh yeah, that's a different type of energy.

767
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: I'll say that. That's a more exhausted energy. I can

768
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: only imagine. Well, okay, we just got to throw this

769
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: out there. This is the perfect time to say, because

770
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: like we want nothing but the best for our baby,

771
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: Like we want the top of the line men, but

772
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: a brother, a cousin, a best friend, just an incredible

773
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: man in your life. Please submit them for our girl, Michelle.

774
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: And if you don't know where to go, I mean

775
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: we say it before and every during every episode, you

776
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: have to just head to bachel Nation dot com slash

777
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: apply and like, I'm not Katie when I say Michelle,

778
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: like I'm ready to sift through some of these applications

779
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: and find men for you because we need it's going

780
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 1: to be hipped men who are motivated, who are driven,

781
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: who are ambitious, who are kind, like all the things like,

782
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: please apply for great men for our girl, Michelle. What

783
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: kinds of things does a guy have to do to

784
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: really impress you? Like, what's one thing if a man

785
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: does it on a date or just like in general,

786
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, damn, he's a good one. I think

787
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: when somebody listens to the small things, and so listen

788
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: to the small things. And it's not just I mean,

789
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm not going to even go into the love languages,

790
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: because I feel like everyone goes into the love languages,

791
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: but I think it's super important that when you are talking,

792
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: that that other person is genuinely listening to you and

793
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: genuinely interacting in those conversations and is able to bring

794
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: up those things that you said at a later time,

795
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: because that's how you know that they were listening. And

796
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: so that's something that I look for. And obviously that's

797
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: going to be kind of hard for me too. That's

798
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: gonna be a challenge because now I have this wide

799
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: array of men and I have to listen and I'm

800
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: going to do my best to remember everything that is said.

801
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, I have a lot of people helping you

802
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, it's gonna be hard, but you'll be fine.

803
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: You'll be fine. I seen there with a little notepad

804
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: making notes, but I could you imagine that. But yeah,

805
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: somebody can truly listen and understand and learn about you,

806
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: and somebody who actually wants to continue to learn about you.

807
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: And when I was on the season with Matt, I

808
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: talked a lot about staying in love and I got

809
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: a lot of that from my parents because I've watched

810
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: how they treat each other, how they listened to each

811
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: other when they're talking, and that goes such a long way. Well, okay,

812
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: I want to get into your parents because I think

813
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: all of America fell in love with them when we

814
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: saw them at your hometown, like they were just the

815
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 1: absolute cutest. I mean, can I just say hashtag couple

816
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: goals like they were. They're like they just seemed like

817
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: they had sot like this zess and this love for

818
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: each other and for you. It was very apparent. It

819
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: was and we've said this on the podcast, like it

820
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: was one of our favorite hometowns, especially this season. I

821
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: would say for sure. So, how are they feeling for you,

822
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: Like what if they could manifest anything for you, what

823
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: would they want for you? You know, in the episode

824
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: where Matt got to meet my family and my mom

825
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: asked us here to like dad, that was something that

826
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: was very true. Is when I was dating, when I

827
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: was looking for my person, and when I'm going to

828
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: be looking for my person, it is somebody who really

829
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: does treat me like my dad treats my mom because

830
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: he's so respectful, he continues to go out of his

831
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: way to do whatever he can for her. He's so supportive,

832
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: gives her a voice in times and vice versa. And

833
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: so I think that's what I'm so thankful for is

834
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: that I had this amazing, healthy relationship that I could

835
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: see grow continuously as I was growing up and still

836
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 1: now and supporting each other. And that's something that I'm

837
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: going to look for, and I know it's out there,

838
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: might it might be hard to find, but that that's okay.

839
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to settles. It's so rare too. So

840
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: congratulations to your parents and able to like show you

841
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: exactly what a healthy, good relationship is. And I think

842
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: it's so hard to I don't know, especially when you're

843
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: in your own relationship, there's so much to navigate, and

844
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: if you don't know how to do those like navigated

845
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: properly and you have those tools, it makes it really hard.

846
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: I mean it's doable still, but it just makes it

847
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: really hard. And so you're honestly one step ahead kind

848
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: of been a lot of people so which and also too,

849
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: I mean you like you're coming in in such a special,

850
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: unique way and much like like you're coming in your

851
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: face like your parents are this beautiful interracial couple. Like

852
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: have you been able to and maybe you had this

853
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: prior to the show too, but also being on the

854
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: show and like moving forward knowing that you're going to

855
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: meet twenty five thirty men of all walks of life

856
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: of you know, black, white, Asian, you'll see more so

857
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: than you've ever been able to date, probably in Minnesota.

858
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: Are you able to navigate those types of relationships with

859
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: your parents and get advice in terms of like potentially

860
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 1: being in an interracial couple with them. Yeah, I think

861
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: my parents have a lot of insight on sometimes the

862
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: challenges of being an interracial couple and growing up by

863
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: me and I knew that there were some situations that

864
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: my parents had experienced where they were traveling and they

865
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: walked into a restaurant and were treated completely different because

866
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: they were an interracial couple. And so we've talked about

867
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: those things, We've talked about those challenges. I've seen how

868
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: they've handled those challenges, and so that kind of gave

869
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: me a perfect example of what to do, how to

870
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: handle it having children that are biracial and potentially the

871
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: challenges that that can bring with people's views unfortunately. And

872
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, I do think that I'm in a good

873
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: place where I have had that example and I can.

874
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean, they're always going to support me, and they're

875
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: always willing to give my advice, give me advice in

876
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: an open way. So I'm yeah, I'll be leaning on

877
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: them a little bit. Yeah, I'll definitely say. You're going

878
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 1: to start dating people that you probably have never even

879
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: imagined yourself dating. But I think that's the best part

880
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 1: about this process, is like you are given opportunities that

881
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: you might not have had before and just to lean

882
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: in into every single one. You never know who will

883
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: surprise you. And I feel like, I mean, that's what

884
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: happened to me, and I feel like, I don't know,

885
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: just be so open minded and don't take anything off

886
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: the table, like feel it out, like this is your

887
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: time to actually do it, because you might be coming

888
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: out like engage, you know, and then you ain't got

889
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: no time to do it again. Take a full advantage

890
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: and definitely utilize your parents when they come. I am

891
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: so excited for you to do this entire journey. I

892
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: feel like it's it definitely comes out of nowhere. I

893
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: know that, but I feel like you have such a

894
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: good foundation and you're exactly what you know the franchise

895
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: needs and an example for a lot of people. So

896
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're you're coming up, Honey, you're coming up,

897
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: coming up. I want to I want to leave some

898
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: time because I feel like, so we've had a bad

899
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: shread Bible in the past where we've passed it down

900
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: to all of the bad charts. I think it was

901
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: given to me actually on my season so three years

902
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: ago from Caitlin, Jojo and Rachel. But do you have

903
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: any advice or do you want to ask us any

904
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: advice or tips before you go in? I mean, I

905
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: know that you have some time. Like I said, we

906
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: will continue to talk, but right now, just since it's

907
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: also fresh, like anything that you want to ask us

908
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: since we've been in your shoes, I honestly want to

909
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: know what you feel like. The helpful the most helpful

910
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 1: tip is going into this position or after you've finished,

911
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: if you're looking back and you're like, oh, oh, I

912
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: really wish I did this or I really wish I

913
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: would have thought of that beforehand. So, now that you've

914
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: been through the experience that you have, what is the

915
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: biggest tip or yeah, that you would have for someone

916
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: like me. Oh, one thing that I would say and

917
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you're going to do this, like so

918
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: I feel like I don't even really need to like

919
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: explain it that much is to stay open minded in

920
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: the sense of, like you know, when you're dating, you

921
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: have the luxury to like go on one day and

922
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: be like, m they're not for me, I'm not into

923
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: them here. You still have to keep a certain amount

924
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: of guys around each week, as you know, and when

925
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: I say stay open, like, you never know who's going

926
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: to surprise you. So you could have one date or

927
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: one group date with somebody or one conversation and be like,

928
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're for me, Like you know,

929
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: it's not all there yet, but keep pushing through because

930
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: some people will pleasantly surprise you and you will be

931
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: so talked. Like I went through most of my entire

932
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: season thinking it was going to be one person. I

933
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: was like dead set, and then like towards the end,

934
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: I started to open up and be more surprised by

935
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 1: like the other men, where I was like, Okay, I'm

936
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: glad I didn't write this person off week one or

937
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: week two and they got to week five or six whenever.

938
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: So just keep that in mind, like there's gonna be

939
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: times where you're gonna be exhausted and you're gonna make

940
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: a I'm over this person, like I wasn't feeling it

941
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: this night. They might have had an off night. You

942
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: might have had an off night. So just just be

943
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 1: open to that, Like you never know when it's going

944
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: to slop you in the face and you're like, oh,

945
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: I actually really like this person one thing in hindsight,

946
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: and I can say this now years later because I've

947
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 1: done a lot of thinking about it, and you know, um,

948
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: really going back through like how I handled my season

949
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: versus then and now, ask the right questions in the

950
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: right way. I went in thinking, you know, I wentn't

951
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: thinking knew, and I know what like I know what

952
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm here for, I know what I want, I know

953
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: what I need in a partner when I'm demanding under

954
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: these men. And I thought I did an okay job

955
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: at the time of like navigating certain conversations and asking

956
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: certain questions, whether it was on camera or off. Looking back,

957
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: now I didn't. And so now I would just like

958
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: be so direct and intentional in what you're wanting to

959
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: find out about these men, even if it's uncomfortable, even

960
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: if it's going to be hard, even if it could

961
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 1: lead to like the end of whatever relationship you're having

962
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: with any of the men. Just be very intentional about

963
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: what and how you're asking things. Good point, that's me.

964
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean I could I could go on and on,

965
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: but like, like the main takeaways at this point, Dasha

966
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: probably has completely different ones. No, that's not true. I

967
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: kind of agree with you. But I feel like you

968
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: know that now because you're you're you're more mature, like

969
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: you've grown and you know what you want now. I

970
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: feel like, Michelle, you have a really good head on

971
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: your shoulders, and I feel like I don't know, I

972
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: feel like I'm not worried about you asking the questions

973
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: that you're gonna need answer it. But I feel okay,

974
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: So going in, I will say, have I already told

975
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: you have no expectations and don't just cling to what

976
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: you're used to. I feel like that's what you would

977
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: be most pleasantly surprised at. It is because like when

978
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: you open yourself and you're just allowing the moment to

979
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: just happen and not overthinking everything, it allows you to

980
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: put your guard down. The guys actually see who you are.

981
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: They automatically become more like calm and like able to

982
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: open up to you, and it it just take it

983
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: for as normal as you can make it. It's very abnormal.

984
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: But at this point you kind of have a little

985
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: bit of experience under your belt and just be confident

986
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: in who you are, like you own it, like you

987
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: know what you have to offer. So just go make

988
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: them work a little. Just just be you like it's fine,

989
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: don't think about it, and like I said, test out

990
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: all the waters. But as far as like looking back,

991
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, obviously, I don't regret anything

992
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: because I'm happily engaged, but I really truly think that

993
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: I was myself, and even if I did mess up

994
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: or I, you know, I could have asked a little

995
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: bit more questions. I think that I have a good

996
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: enough intuition and I think I have a good enough,

997
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, sense of self that I was able to

998
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 1: navigate those waters. And so I think that's also really

999
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: a big part of it again, being reassured that you

1000
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: know what you're doing and you're making the right decisions,

1001
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: because you can continuously think that you're not doing the

1002
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: right thing and then they're away. Another relationship that should

1003
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 1: have been you know what I mean, like second guess

1004
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: in yourself. You don't need to do all that. We

1005
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: always play a fun game with our guests, which we

1006
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,240
Speaker 1: will get into, but I want to leave the floor

1007
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: open to you because your big moment will be coming

1008
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: up in a few short months. But before that, we

1009
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: obviously know that Katie is going to be the current

1010
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: Bachelor at a little bit before you, so before before

1011
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: she goes off into filming and all that, is there

1012
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: anything that you want to say to her, any words

1013
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: of encouragement, Like what sentiment would you leave for Katie

1014
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: at this point? I think it's a lot about what

1015
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: you too just spoke about is truly being yourself. I

1016
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: mean this process if you do throw yourself in. I

1017
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: mean there's that quote that everyone says, trust the process process,

1018
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: But really, when you put down social media in your

1019
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: phone and you kind of put down small talk, you

1020
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: can really dig deep and get to know one And

1021
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing is to not she doesn't

1022
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: need to be robotic. She can be her complete, genuine,

1023
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: authentic self, so that at the end of this, even

1024
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: when the cameras are done rolling, those two people, her

1025
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: and whoever you know, hopefully she ends up with truly

1026
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: know each other and it's not necessarily the situation where

1027
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: it's a surprise coming later. And obviously there are going

1028
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: to be bumps because it's a relationship in such a

1029
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: short period of time. But I think Katie will stick.

1030
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 1: I think Katie will stay true to herself, and I

1031
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: think she'll do a really good job with that. But

1032
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,479
Speaker 1: like you, like you just posted, that's the biggest thing

1033
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: that someone in this position can do. Wait, I want

1034
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: to know, Michelle, who were you closest with at the resort? Yeah,

1035
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: I was, quote well Ryan, we were. We were roomies

1036
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: for a little bit, and then Serena pe and Bree. Okay,

1037
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: oh good group. Oh cool? And do you still stay

1038
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: in touch with most of the women or I guess

1039
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: those women? Oh yeah, we talk every day. Yeah, I

1040
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: love it. Maybe seems more your faces on your season too, So, um,

1041
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: I can't wait. Okay, game time because we know that

1042
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: you're all about the games. Okay, So Michelle being the

1043
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: new batcherette, we're gonna play a game called a Rose

1044
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: or goes. I'm gonna try to put on my best

1045
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: announcer voice. Okay, Rose or goes. We're gonna give you

1046
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: a few scenarios that could happen on your season, okay,

1047
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: and you have to tell if it's a rose or

1048
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: if they'll go. So I will kick it off. We're

1049
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: just gonna give you different scenarios. You tell us are

1050
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: they gonna stay? Are they gonna get that rose or go?

1051
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: It's very straightforward obviously, um. And some of these have

1052
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: happened on past seasons, so I don't know if you

1053
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: would handle them the same way. Some maybe are just

1054
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: like made up scenarios. But here we go. It's night

1055
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: one and a guy steps out of the lima wearing

1056
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: a costume, maybe a squirrel costume is it a rose

1057
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: or does he go oh gosh, I feel like I'd

1058
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: had to talk to the squirrel. But I'm gonna say Rose. Okay,

1059
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: maybe nobody, maybe not my final Rose. I don't know,

1060
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: but some kind of that's we're working with. Maybe you

1061
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: were the costume. I feel like they don't ever make

1062
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: it that far. Well, oh that's true. I mean, remember

1063
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: open minded, you don't know you're construe. I would talk

1064
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: to the squirrel. And I always say this people. People

1065
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: always knock the costumes, but night ones are always long,

1066
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: there always freezing, and so it's like if they can

1067
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: get a leg up and stay warm in that costume.

1068
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I had a guy show up in a

1069
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 1: chicken party, but I was jealous by the end of

1070
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: the night because I was so cold. I was like,

1071
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: can I wear this? Yeah? Okay, rapid fire, Okay, you

1072
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: gotta go quickly to theives. Okay. Ready, You're at a

1073
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: cocktail party and a guy spray champagne in his face.

1074
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: Is he a rose? Or goes Rose? Rose? Rose? Alright,

1075
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: it's night one and a guy wants to be the

1076
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: life of the party and cannonballs into the pool. Rose

1077
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: or goes goes Yeah, a guy arrives late a few

1078
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: weeks into your journey rose or goes rose? Obviously a rose?

1079
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: Look at look at the gold we got out of

1080
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: the literally literally yeah. What if a guy rides up

1081
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: in a horse rose, A guy walks up the drive

1082
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: a with all for one Sarah eating you? Does he

1083
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: get a rose? Or does he go? He gets a rose? Okay?

1084
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: What about a guy? What about if a guy drives

1085
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: up in a hot tub car? Did I get in? Yeah?

1086
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: You better? Okay? What if a guy steps out of

1087
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: a little and speaks to you in another language? Rose

1088
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: or goes after I Google translate M can tell you

1089
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: what are you saying? If he just leaves your hanging,

1090
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: It's like, come on it? What else do that talking

1091
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: to do? Okay? What I wants to do? A wedding

1092
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 1: photo shoot with you? Goes? Speed up? Take Tasia and

1093
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: Zach they had to do this? Awkward? Why didn't shoot

1094
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: date and look and look at this ring on her finger?

1095
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: Show it off, Tasia? Well, I'm getting it resized, so

1096
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't have it all right now? This is really awkward.

1097
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: Literally so up. I swear it should be coming tomorrow

1098
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: or whatever anyway, but I will say, look, that was

1099
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: the most uncomfortable situation. But literally the way that he

1100
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: handled it is what kind of made me second, Like

1101
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: like take him seem a different light, and I was like,

1102
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: oh wait, he's very attentive. This is amazing. As long

1103
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: as they're not like one up in you and like

1104
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: taking all the spotlight in this photo, it's okay, Like

1105
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: he clearly knew I was uncomfortable. It was like, maybe

1106
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do you know, so it might be it

1107
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: might be helpful. Okay, what is something that a guy

1108
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: can do that definitely means he's getting the rose. Oh

1109
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think about something different than I already

1110
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: said something different. Um, I don't motivated. Honestly, if someone's lazy,

1111
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: that's like the biggest turn off for me. Do you

1112
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: do you like overly confident men or does it kind

1113
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: of rudy out if it's like borderline cocky. I want

1114
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: them to have confidence, but I want them to be humble.

1115
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: I want them to be sure of themselves or of

1116
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: what they bring to the table, but I don't want

1117
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: them if they have to feel like they are showcasing

1118
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: it all the time, or you know, you get a

1119
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: huge group of men, if they're trying to one up

1120
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: each other well spoken, like a true minnisote. My mom's

1121
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: going to be listening to this and be like, I

1122
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: love that. Michelle Young when I when I when I

1123
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: left for my season, She's like, just stay humble, stay humble,

1124
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: make sure the guys are humble. So she's gonna love

1125
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: this conversation. How do you feel about like kissing? Night one? Like,

1126
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 1: if a guy came out and kiss fresh Lemo, how

1127
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 1: would that make you feel? Um? I like to take

1128
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: things slow, which I'm cracking up because I'm a bachelor.

1129
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: Good luck. I mean depending if he's a good kisser,

1130
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: if his eyes are closed right, if it's not hard

1131
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 1: to be I heard his do people, but his eyes open,

1132
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: then you know we might. Would you send him home?

1133
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: Night one? If you knew he was kissing me with

1134
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: his eyes open top it, you would not, Michelle? I

1135
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,959
Speaker 1: would not, No, No, I would talk. He has PTSD?

1136
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: This girl's scarred? Are you okay? PTSD? But I would

1137
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 1: definitely a hard time to say that. What is something

1138
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: that if a guy did this, he would have to

1139
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: go right away? Um, if he drank too much and

1140
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: was super sloppy, honestly. Yeah, no one likes sloppy. No

1141
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: one likes sloppy. And this is why this is great

1142
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: because everyone listening in can know exactly what we are

1143
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: looking for and not looking for. And I say we like,

1144
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm with you because like a composed man that's kind humble,

1145
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: that does make you laugh like children, It's sweet, but

1146
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: like also motivated, also kind of doesn't need to work

1147
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: out a lot, but is still fit. A family guy,

1148
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: family guy. Yeah huge. Yeah, So anybody, if that applies

1149
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: to you, go apply for Michelle season the Bachelorte. Now

1150
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: I feel like a cohost or a host commercial. Yeah,

1151
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: this is this is weird. Okay, yeah, so go apply.

1152
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so excited, Michelle. I feel like

1153
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: we could have you on like a pardon. We doesn't

1154
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: want to let you go, but I also realize you

1155
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: are a teacher. You have to get to class. You

1156
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: have thirty I'm sure thirty students that you have to

1157
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: you know, look over, so we can't hug all of

1158
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: your time. One last question before we let you hop off.

1159
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: Overall throughout the entire season, everything that you just lived through,

1160
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: what was your rose and what was your thorn? My

1161
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: rose was finding other really impactful women that are so

1162
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: close to me, know, I mean, Ryan, Serena Peebree. We

1163
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: have such a special bond that we just get what

1164
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: each other went through and being able to we say

1165
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: it every day because this season has been hard. The

1166
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: season season has been super heavy, but when we're on

1167
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: the FaceTime at the end, we always are like, I

1168
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: would do it again, or this was all worth it

1169
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: because I had that because I came out so yeah,

1170
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: I didn't come out with Matt, but I came out

1171
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: with three bomb best friends. That's yeah, our lifelong pro

1172
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: pretty funny. Honestly, it's the best. It's the bass and

1173
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: those girlfriends will get you through a lot of things.

1174
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: So I'm so happy you had such a good experience

1175
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: and you have another one coming up, and we were

1176
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: so happy to talk to you. Yeah, Michelle, it has

1177
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: been such a pleasure, so excited for everything to come

1178
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: for just for the world to see your own love

1179
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 1: story unfold, like it's going to be something so special.

1180
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. So thank you for joining us today.

1181
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: Please stay in touch when I come back to Minnesota.

1182
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna make you hang out with me.

1183
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna grab wine, we'll grab coffee, whatever it might be,

1184
01:03:56,160 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: we will catch up. Oh right, Tasia, I it. I

1185
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: have to say I have a girl crush on the show.

1186
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: I know she really is like the sweetest thing, but

1187
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: she's just so I don't know, it's not I don't

1188
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: want to say like down to earth, because obviously she is,

1189
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: but like it's just she's humble, she's quiet, she's kind

1190
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: of like reserved, like this is all very shocking to her,

1191
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,959
Speaker 1: which I is that what it is. I'm just gonna

1192
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: keep saying that. She just I mean even even the

1193
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: second she stepped out of the limbo like that not

1194
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: her I mean her night one, but not at the

1195
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 1: top of the season, Like she just brought out this different,

1196
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: like wow factor. I think with that and like we

1197
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: saw it early on, like she was never one to

1198
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: like be guarded. She's always been very open, very vocal,

1199
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 1: like fun, playful, smart, like all the things wrapped up

1200
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: into one. She is going to make such an incredible

1201
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: bad setor I both heard Katy will like completely agree

1202
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 1: he can't wait to see what this year has in store.

1203
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: Like and after like the this last season, I mean,

1204
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: it felt like it just was being dragged on and

1205
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: on and on and yeah so much. I truly hope,

1206
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 1: and I say this every season, but I truly hope

1207
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: for her sake, like back to the basics, back to

1208
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: that love story, like she deserves somebody, like so incredible. Um,

1209
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: so I can't wait, you know, And hopefully she'll stay

1210
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 1: in touch with us and we can bounce ideas off

1211
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: with her and give her advice whenever she needs. I

1212
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: feel like she's not going to hesitate to be shy

1213
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 1: about reaching out to any of the Batcherets, which absolutely

1214
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: no I could already seeing. I already see her being

1215
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: part of the girl very quickly. So she did such

1216
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: a phenomenal job and she's gonna I can't wait to

1217
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: see her men, and like it hasn't even started yet.

1218
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: We've gotta get through Katie first, but one na um,

1219
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna be great. But we also want to say, Matt,

1220
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 1: thank you for being such an amazing bachelor, Like personally,

1221
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: I thought you handled a lot of the situations with

1222
01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: such grace and as well as you could. Um. But

1223
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 1: we're wishing you the very very very beast and however

1224
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: that journey may look like. And I think he'll figure

1225
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: it out. He's got to be good having shoulders. He

1226
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, he went through a wild ride on his season.

1227
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: It's not something that I think he expected or anyone expected.

1228
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: That was very clear during you know, his chats during Afar.

1229
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: But he is smart. He I'm sure has learned a

1230
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: great deal about just being vulnerable and expressing more feeling

1231
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: and emotion and what he does and does not want

1232
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: in a relationship. So, Matt, your journey in this regard

1233
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: may have come to a close, but your journey in life,

1234
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: I think is just starting. So go off, take care,

1235
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: stay healthy. We wish you nothing but the best, and

1236
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: we hope that you find what you're looking for one

1237
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 1: day very soon. Also, I just want to say thank

1238
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: you guys so much, and you Becca for taking me

1239
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: in these past couple of weeks. It's been so much fun.

1240
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: But your girl Rachel has come and actually we'll be

1241
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 1: here next week for another episode as per usual. But

1242
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. This was so much fun. Titia.

1243
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: It's always so great to have you. I love our

1244
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,720
Speaker 1: girl chats. You just brings something different and unique and

1245
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 1: fresh to these conversations. And I mean you you are

1246
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 1: the Batchel right that literally just lived through this, so

1247
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: it's it was so good to have you on to

1248
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 1: speak with Michelle, you know, to let her know kind

1249
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: of what she's in store for because I'm a little

1250
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: bit removed. I don't remember everything. I'm getting old, I'm

1251
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: forgetting things in the page of money. So thank you

1252
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: for coming, and you guys, one more time, I'm going

1253
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: to say it again. Please, if you have any incredible

1254
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 1: men in your life that you think would be a

1255
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: great fit for Michelle, don't forget to sign them up

1256
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: for the show. If you want to do that, you

1257
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: can head to batchelornation dot com slash apply today. So

1258
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 1: everyone out there listening, thank you for listening through this

1259
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: entire season. I know it was a rollercoaster of everything,

1260
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: and I always thank you for hanging out with us

1261
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: each and every Tuesday. And a huge shout out to Michelle,

1262
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,479
Speaker 1: thank you for stopping by. I know that your life

1263
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: is crazy busy and it's going to get even busier,

1264
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: so we're so excited for you and we hope to

1265
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: talk to you again very soon. And as always, you

1266
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: guys keep writing to us and letting us know your thoughts,

1267
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: open and concerns, questions, all the things, So if you

1268
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: don't know where to find us, if you're on Instagram,

1269
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: you can check out at badge or happy Hour and

1270
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: then it's at Badge Happy Hour on both Facebook and Twitter.

1271
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: And if you never want to miss out on an episode,

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