1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Readily, readily donks look at this now. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: Tip to Tim. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: This this Morning Combat. It is Monday, January eleventh, twenty 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 3: twenty one, and it is time diggity donks for Morning Combat. 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 3: Hi everybody, it is Fight week right here on the 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: MK Show. My name is Luke Thomas from CBS Sports, 10 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: one half of your hosting duo. I am joined by 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: the gentleman on the other side of the screen who 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: can only be accurately called the mcguver of microphones. 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 4: My friend is yours, Brian Campbell. 14 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,959 Speaker 1: Hi, Brian, Yes, I am sick with the stick, as 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: they like to say, Luke. That's indeed right. Welcome Luke, 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: another show, another week. Fights are back. As you mentioned, 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed your weekend, you know, after round 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: a little bit relaxed. Maybe I don't know how big 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: you are, Luke. On on stress reduction, you seem to 20 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: cling to conflict, but I hope you had a good 21 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: one just the same. 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the guy who clings to conflict, says the 23 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 3: guy who's being passive aggressive. Yes, my weekend was fine. 24 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: I did a lot of no idea what you're talking about? 25 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: There? Are we gonna be able to get through this 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: show today without your microphone disintegrating like Cotton Candy and 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 3: the Toddler's. 28 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: Well, well, I blame I blame one Jay Aaron for 29 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: his shoddy production skills and mailing this concoction to me, Luke. 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: But if it does break, I'll just handhold it like 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: I do you through much of the show. But let's 32 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: do it, Luke. I'm ready. I'm passively aggressively aggressive, So 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: let's do it. 34 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: Yes, you certainly are all right. As always, we have 35 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: a lot to get to today. It is fight week. 36 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: The UFC has been off for a while, but things 37 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: go back to normal sort of this Saturday. So we 38 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: will talk about that card and of course gets you 39 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: ready for that card throughout the course of this week. 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: We'll start things off today. We got some McGregor updates, 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: We've got some Diaz Brothers updates, We've got some Broner updates. 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: It's and a whole lot more. 43 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: Okay, video, give it a thumbs up, hit the subscribe button, 44 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 3: tell a friend about the show. 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But 55 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: let's also remind folks that they can get Showtime Showtime 56 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: dot Com thirty day free trive. You'll like it, you 57 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 3: can keep it. If not, you can go pound sand 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 3: And what else am I missing here? We see we 59 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 3: got that. I give all the housekeeping up front. I 60 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: haven't done this since I think you. 61 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: Did a fantastic job. We also have Jay Aaron the 62 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: producer back Jay back Off not come on screen yet. 63 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: You know, uh, he'll be back later in the show. 64 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: Have you seen the shitty will be addressing the unforgivable. 65 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: The footage has leaked of his nineties attempt at shameless 66 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: fame that went belly up, but it will be great 67 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: to hear from him. He's got a lot explaining to 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: do after Lukey viscerated him, So we'll see what happens later. 69 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: Yes, he certainly does. We'll do that during the have 70 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: you seen this shit segment of the show. But let's 71 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: get things started if we can. As I mentioned, you 72 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: know when there's fights, you know, nearly fifty weeks out 73 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 3: of the fifty two weeks in the calendar year, saying 74 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: that its fight week doesn't necessarily have the greatest impact 75 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: in the world. But we have been off for a while. 76 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: The UFC returns to action this Saturday with a card 77 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: headlined by Max Holloway taking on Calvin Caterer. I believe 78 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: it's going to be UFC on ABC one again. There's 79 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: other pieces to this card, other dimensions to this fight. 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: In fact, maybe will get to throughout the course of 81 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: the week. But BC, let's start the week off with 82 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: this consideration. This is a fight at featherweight. You have 83 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: Max Holloway coming off of a lost, very disputed one 84 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 3: to Volkanovsky. Meanwhile, Calvin Cator just recently beating Jeremy Stevens 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: and Danygay red hot never been hotter, so Let's talk 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: about it from both sides of the fence here, but 87 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: start with the former champion. What would it mean for 88 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: the one hundred and forty five pound division for Max 89 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: Holloway to win on Saturday. 90 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: Look, it would be huge because I think he's getting 91 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: this opportunity, which is the main event the A side 92 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: of a ABC show, which is the kickoff as we 93 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: mentioned to two weeks of huge fights UFC back on 94 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: the map. They took one of their hard and true 95 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: company favorites in Max Holloway, who's still in his prime 96 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: and his peak of his prime here, let's not forget that. Look, 97 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: this gives him an opportunity to get a big win 98 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: that he needs coming off of the losses to Volkanowski. 99 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: But I think to do it in a way that 100 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: could leap him right back to the front of the line. 101 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: You're not again, you're not gonna put him in this 102 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: showcase if you're the UFC to rein in casuals or 103 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: reign in you know, haphazard outside the mold fans. If 104 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't get a title shot afterwards with a victory, 105 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: and obviously we know Volkanovsky has the belt or Tega 106 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: probably next, but Max still has a bit of unfinished 107 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: business when you consider how close those two losses were 108 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: to Volkanowski. If any one sort of deserves the trilogy 109 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: in a series in which he's lost the first two, 110 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: it's seemingly Max. He's been a company guy through and through. 111 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: He's not over the hill yet. There's still time Luke 112 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: ten twenty one where we started, you know, back in 113 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: the previous years with Max on top. So this is 114 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: a nice close up opportunity to prove that he's still elite. 115 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: And please try to talk me out of any scenario 116 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't end with a title shot. 117 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: A few wins here, you know, it's funny. 118 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: I was looking up the ages because Calvin Cator is 119 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: sort of sitting just outside the top five. 120 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 4: I believe he is sitting at number six. 121 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: In the rankings. Again, for whatever that is worth, I 122 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 3: think that's right, he's sitting at six. So I was 123 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: looking up Chan Sung Jung, Aero, Rodriguez, Maga, mitcheripov Ortega, 124 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 3: and Holloway. Now I don't know how old Rodriguez is. 125 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: Let's see here very quickly. Eric Rodriguez is twenty eight 126 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: years old, which would make him the youngest, but Max 127 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: Holloway only twenty nine, Calvin Cator actually thirty two, So 128 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: you would not you'd be getting fresh blood in the 129 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 3: division with Cater, which we'll talk about in just a second, 130 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: but you would not necessarily be getting somebody younger. You 131 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: would not be having this sort of youth movement, of 132 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: this natural turnover that happens. So what happens if Max 133 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 3: Holloway wins BC. I have to tell you this. I 134 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: don't know exactly what the UFC is going to do, 135 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: but when you said he has unfinished business, if you 136 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 3: asked Volkanovsky that, I don't think he would agree. If 137 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 3: you asked a lot of people that who are maybe 138 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: just casual observers, I don't know what the temperature is 139 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: on that, but I have to tell you I agree 140 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: with you. I think they're kind of is And I 141 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: would also say this, Max made a dramatic improvement between 142 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: the first and second fights. By the way, some people 143 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: think you won the first one. I don't think that's 144 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 3: really all that fair, but there are some out there. 145 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: Second one highly disputed because Max was able to make 146 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: serious adjustments. I actually interviewed Eugene Berman after the second fight, 147 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: and he was saying that he was blown away at 148 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: how good their adjustments and his team was. In fact, 149 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: what he said was that the Gracie Technics guys and 150 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: Max's team, they're the most underrated team maybe in all 151 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: of MMA. That they are incredibly intelligent, and no one 152 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 3: seems to realize just how good they are. I wonder, 153 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: I really truly wonder if you had a third crack 154 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: at the guy, given how improved you were from the 155 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: first to second fights, there's a decent reason to believe 156 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: that he could, even like, even if you thought he 157 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: won the second one, win the third one outright. More 158 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: to the point, if he sticks around there and he 159 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: beats Calvin Cater. I mean, I realized that Ortega is 160 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: kind of up next for Volkanovsky given his win over 161 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: the Korean Zombie, So you kind of have to do that. 162 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 3: But I just feel like you couldn't deny the guy 163 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: at that point. You'd be having somebody in Calvin Cator 164 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: who is absolutely no doubt about it, red hot. If 165 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: Max Holloway stops him, who else is he supposed to fight? 166 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: Rodriguez or Serapov? Both of those guys don't seem to 167 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: be I don't know actively really making a case that 168 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: they're the next one to get a chance at the champion. 169 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 3: And last thing I'd say on this, we see if 170 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 3: I may Volkanovsky's style is incredibly hard to defeat. He 171 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: does a lot of things in the modern way for 172 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: best practices that are just incredibly difficult to overcome. And 173 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 3: if he goes up against someone who's really overmatched, they're 174 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: gonna get bludgeoned. But if he goes up against somebody 175 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: who's also good at sort of managing the round and 176 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: the risk, you're gonna get a lot of what you've 177 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: been getting, which is a lot of just long decisions, 178 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: whether that's against Aldo, whether that's against Max twice. Obviously 179 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: he ran through Chaedmands after having a little bit difficulty early. 180 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 3: But I'm telling you, like his style is not necessarily 181 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: built for the kind of action that I think the 182 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 3: UFC prefers. It's built to be just insanely difficult to solve. 183 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: I wonder if they might also want to reinstall Max Holloway, 184 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: if at all possible, back in a championship kind of 185 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: possies they. 186 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: Do Luke, he's the biggest brand in the division, so 187 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: that would make a lot of sense that they would 188 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: want to do that, But I want to couple that 189 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: with a lot of the points you just said. He's 190 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: still in the in his prime he really is. I mean, look, 191 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: you made a great point of kowski. If he can 192 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: beat you at chess while you're playing checkers, he's gonna 193 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: beat you. But what can he do given his size 194 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: deficiencies against the very elite when you're even with him? 195 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: And I think in that rematch, Max Holloway proved to 196 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: us that his IQ is on that level. He's of 197 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: that super elite cerebral level. I don't need to watch 198 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: the rematch forty nine times to see that. So when 199 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: you are able to cancel that out, I certainly like 200 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: Max's physical advantages. Maybe that's why I liked him in 201 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: that very close fight. Although credit to Volkanowski in the 202 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: rematch for rallying making, you know, being adaptable and all that. 203 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to see how this division plays out, 204 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: whether Ortega gets that chance and beats Volkanowski, whether we 205 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: end up in a trilogy bout with Max here and 206 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: obviously where that would be saying a lot in looking 207 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: past Calvin Cators, you know, full on chance here to 208 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: get a win. Coming in as the underdog is a 209 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: very good fight. Let's not look past that. But I 210 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: think if you believe in fighting karma at all, Luke, 211 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: you gotta believe Max kind of deserves a third crack 212 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: in a city situation that is just not normal. No 213 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: one gets a third chance out of guy they lost 214 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: to twice. But let's not forget how long he had 215 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: to prove himself in this division just to get a 216 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: title shot. I mean, the guy was never ending amount 217 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: of wins in a row, having to beat everybody just 218 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: to get to that point. He was a fun champion, 219 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: He was a great champion. We know he'd be willing 220 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: to come out of nowhere and fill in the hole 221 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: at two twenty three against a bab He be willing 222 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: to do anything. So I think he's gonna get this 223 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: opportunity in part, in part because of that, Luke. He's 224 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna get a good receipt here for the goodwill done 225 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: as a top elite fighter. 226 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 3: All right, So let's now change the equation. Calvin Cater 227 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: guy who does interviews but not necessarily super outspoken, not necessarily. 228 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's an interesting guy, but doesn't try to 229 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: be you know, mister Charisma, tries to be professional, tries 230 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: to go about his day, has some of the best 231 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: pure boxing in the division. A little bit of a 232 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: slow starter, but once he gets going, man alive, he 233 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: is a handfull. What happens if he wins for one 234 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 3: forty five BC, well. 235 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: Look, obviously again I always put this in there, there's 236 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: different kinds of wins. I mean, if he came out 237 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: and you know, stopped Max Holloway, then you're like, we 238 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: have to recalibrate what's possible next. But if you gotta win, 239 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: got a strong upset win. I think though, because of 240 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: where he's coming from, because this is a pretty top 241 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: heavy division. There's big names here, there's the holes, the 242 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: beat elephant in the room hasn't fought in a while too. 243 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: I think this would just get him access to the 244 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: upper room featherweight at one forty five to the true elite. 245 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: He would get a big fight off of it, but 246 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: he wouldn't necessarily be in the title conversation because or 247 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: take us there, you gotta do something big, was the beat. 248 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: This is a you know all those guys you mentioned 249 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: as well, Korean Zombiere Rodriguez, This is a very good division. 250 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: I think it would get him into there, but he's 251 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: certainly not gonna cut the pack unless you do something dramatic. 252 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if he you're right, if he goes 253 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 3: in there and just bludgeons Max, right, which I don't 254 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 3: necessarily think is the likeliest outcome, But stranger things have happened, 255 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: I suppose. But if he does that, then he might 256 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 3: just jump everybody. But if he does it, there we 257 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: mentioned he's sitting at six. Now. Granted, inside that top 258 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: five is Chance Sung Junk, who just had something of 259 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: a overmatched, languid performance against Brian Ortega. So, okay, you 260 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: leap frog Ham. That's fine. 261 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: I think he's sitting at five. 262 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: But you're right. You got a mega met Shecherapol sitting 263 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 3: in there. You got your har Rodriguez sitting in there. 264 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 3: Brian o'tega has already got uh DIBs on it. So 265 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 3: you got a. 266 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Few Josh Emmett. You got Josh emmittt there? 267 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't he Isn't he injured again? I could be 268 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: wrong about that. 269 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: He'll fight, He'll walk again someday. I mean, you know 270 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: he'll fight again. Right, He's caught off a huge win. 271 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: He's probably the most underrated guy in that division, a 272 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: least Calvin Cator fight Island. If they did anything for 273 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: the guy, it would sort of prove that he's ready 274 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: to take a step up in competition. This being the 275 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: this being the reward, so to speak, for all the 276 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: work that he's done, Emmett has a little bit more 277 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: to go in terms of that recognition after the Shane 278 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: Burgos fight some of the other spectacular things that he's done. 279 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 3: But if he would do it, it would change the 280 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: division a way where Max is kind of a you know, 281 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 3: it's it's hard to call Max a roadblock exactly at 282 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 3: one forty five, because you know, while Ortega is gonna 283 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: get the title shot, there's not exactly a clear line 284 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: of contendership. After that. 285 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: There's contenders, but as I. 286 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: Mentioned, Scherf Paul back up by Sharapov and Rodriguez not 287 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: exactly going out there and really banging the door down 288 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,599 Speaker 3: to prove that they should be next. Still, if you 289 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 3: got him removed and so now Cater even if he 290 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 3: doesn't replace that position, it would take away a future 291 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 3: potential problem. Because here's the other thing I could consider, 292 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: what if Max has a third fight with Volkanovsky, and 293 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 3: that one is equally controversial, where it's some kind of 294 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 3: split decision where Max maybe wins, but now people are 295 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: just outraged because maybe he shouldn't have. Are you gonna 296 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: redo that one over and over again? I have a 297 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 3: feeling that every time Holloway and Volkanovski fight, to the 298 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: extent that there are subsequent contests, they're all gonna be 299 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: really kind of dicey. They're gonna be a little bit 300 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 3: back and forth, hard to parse everything you've seen, just 301 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: a little bit more of that, and so you really 302 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: get a problem removed, so to speak. If you're able 303 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: to get a guy who's got that kind of relationship 304 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 3: with the existing champion, push him out of the way, 305 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: and now you can sort of really open the spigot 306 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: and get that kind of thing going again. It does 307 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: change the division in that way, but I do think 308 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: you also lose, as you indicated, the biggest brand at 309 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five currently, Luke. 310 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: This discussion open the show has really become a de 311 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: facto state of the union for this division as a whole. 312 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: So I have a question and a statement to close here, 313 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: Which one do you want. 314 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 3: First, Luke, to me your statement. 315 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: First, All right, I've done the math. I've watched video. 316 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: I've gotten not the slide rule, you know what I'm saying. 317 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: I've watched fights in black and white with no sound. 318 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: I've streamed them covered in peanut butter. As a beat 319 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: Magomed Scheripov is the best fighter at one hundred and 320 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: forty five pounds. I'm just gonna let you know that statement. 321 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a ridiculous statement. 322 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: But okay, Luke, I'm not sure it's not. Though he does. 323 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: He have to prove that. Yes, he's gonna have to 324 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: prove it, and he's maybe a big win away from 325 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: a title shot in doing just that. But can you 326 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: can you not no sell me? Can you look at 327 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: the same figures I have, Luke, and deduce that that 328 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: there's somebody out there more talented than him, potentially once 329 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: he does get to. 330 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: That time, Yeah, somebody who can fight affirmatively five rounds. 331 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: So you're gonna use round three against Cater against him 332 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: until he proves you wrong? 333 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: Is I'm going to use the fact that Cater was 334 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: putting it on him in round three. If that one 335 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: was five rounds, it's a virtual guarantee. I think cater 336 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: would have won, Luke. 337 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: Is that a little bit like using rounds four and 338 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: five of the Ayaquinta fight against Fa against Haabib negatively 339 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: or using round one against of Michael Johnson against Habib 340 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: as as something to cling to and not seeing the 341 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: full picture. Luke, I don't want you to be the 342 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: last to know. 343 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 3: As Britney once said, yeah, I've done tape study on Mega, 344 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 3: Butcheripov he is very talented. I would not. I don't 345 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: think he's earned the position he's in, you know, fraudulently. 346 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: He's very very good, but there are major, major red 347 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: flags about the longevity of what he can do, about 348 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: his inability to be a finisher against the top that 349 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: guys like Kate I think have much more effectively answered, 350 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: even if in a three round contest. 351 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, Luke. I think he's better 352 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: than Cater. I think he hit a little bit of 353 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: a wall. It was a look Jose. Although Mark round five, 354 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: Mark Kamenick's eyeball coming out of his head didn't look 355 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: great in that one round. Still a great fighter all 356 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: around that, Luke. It was it was a moment he 357 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: needed We'll have that debate for another day when Zabeat 358 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: finally shows it to us, and no, this isn't rooted in. 359 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: If you got a Nabe Lincoln and you look like 360 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: you're from Dagistan, root for this guy, he's probably gonna 361 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: win the title. But in this case it's true. My question, though, Luke, 362 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: is we talk about, Okay, what happens here for Calvin 363 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: Cator if he wins or loses. If he loses, how 364 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: long until Bryce Mitchell enters this conversation and effectively becomes 365 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: the new Calvin Cator who's on the verge of proving 366 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: to us whether he's truly a leader or not. 367 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 3: Bryce Mitchell, I think has an incredibly fun, good, suffocating, 368 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: challenging ground game, but the lack of the totality of 369 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 3: the game gives me a little bit of pause. He's 370 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: done very well against the talent he's been given, and 371 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: those are not chumps. He has beaten some good opposition, 372 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: but there's a long way to go before I'm ready 373 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: to declare him, you know, the next big thing at 374 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five pounds, where I'm really taking 375 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: his prospects of putting UFC gold around his waist quite seriously. 376 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: I'm not discounting it either. I'm still just saying it's unknown. 377 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: But if there is any kind of question to some 378 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: kind of hill he has to climb, it's not really 379 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: is to beat a lot of other guys, because I 380 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: don't think he's fought any top ten competition yet. More 381 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 3: to that point, he is beating them very single handedly, 382 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: which number Comana was able to do, but nomber Goamana 383 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: was able to do that because he is a generationally 384 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: special talent. Is bres Mitchell that at one hundred and 385 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: forty five? Yeah, the jury is still kind of out 386 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: on that one. I think. 387 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: Look, well, correct me if I'm wrong, though, but your 388 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: default as an analyst is not to fall prey to 389 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: the victim in getting seduced by the drug of proclaiming 390 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: somebody a god before they have a chance to prove 391 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: it to you, which also doubles as an explanation for 392 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: your atheist. 393 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: Correct. That was a river of inane shit that you 394 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: just said. That was both incoherent and very you know, very. 395 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: Much like the ending scene in Billy Madison. I get it, 396 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: but that was that was pretty good though, you know, 397 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: the puppy found his way in the end. 398 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 3: Listen, there's nothing wrong with with with Bryce Mitchell as 399 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: a fighter, is nothing wrong. There's something like, oh wow, 400 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 3: he's really terrible at that. I don't think that's quite true. 401 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: But it's like you win in a very lopsided way, 402 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: which is fine, that's a choice, but if you're going 403 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: to do that, that that lopsidedness has to be just 404 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: truly overwhelming. And he's only ranked at fourteen, by the way, 405 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: sitting at thirteen, Ryan Hall, I mean, try that shit 406 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: on him, right, I don't. It's not I don't. I'd 407 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: be very skeptical he could do that to Ryan Hall. 408 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 3: I think Ryan Hall would have his back or his 409 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: ankle pretty quickly. And so there's a long line of 410 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 3: guys where you have to try that on before you 411 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 3: can really say this, really, this stands the test of 412 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: elite pushback from one to forty five, Kabibe can say 413 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: his game stands the test of elite one fifty five 414 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: vers and probably then some Okay. 415 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: Here we all go quickly in passing Luke. You know, 416 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: I didn't search the market for having few seltzers to 417 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: prove to you that Kalo is the best. I just 418 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: took a taste and I knew it. I took the 419 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: taste tests on the beat. I know it. Bro Okay, 420 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: so time will tell, but you'll see. 421 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: Okay, we will see. 422 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 3: And when that proves to be wrong, you let me 423 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: know just how much crow you're ready to swallow. We'll 424 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: look at some crow hot dogs over at Cumberland Forms. Okay, 425 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: point number two, this is one I find a little 426 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 3: bit that I don't know. I don't know what I 427 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: want to call this. Maybe you can help me out 428 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: be c UFC president Dana White has made a series 429 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: of remarks about the daz brothers, one of the in 430 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 3: many ways, I kind of understand both of them. In 431 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: many ways, I don't Here's what I mean, just to 432 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: set this up so the audience understands in the event 433 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: that they missed it. 434 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 4: When it comes to the older Nick. 435 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: Diaz, whose manager has said that he's almost certainly going 436 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: to have a comeback this year of some variety, he said, 437 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: why would anyone even want to see Nick Diaz fight? 438 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 3: If you look at what he's been doing on Instagram? 439 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 3: Dana White said, it's not exactly clear that you know 440 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: he has prioritized the athlete's kind of life, and it 441 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: certainly is true up to a point, although more recent 442 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: indications seem to tell us that he has been back 443 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 3: in the gym for whatever that is worth. Again, a 444 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: lot of this is just hard to exactly know what's true. 445 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 3: But yes, there were years of partying on social media. 446 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what the current state of things are exactly. Okay, Now, 447 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 3: when it comes to Nate Diaz, he did say he 448 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: was looking to have Nate return to the octagon in 449 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, but basically, whether or not he can 450 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: make it happen, your guess is as good as mine. 451 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 3: He did not appear necessarily all that enthusiastic about let's 452 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: say it's prospect of happening. OKABC, here is my question 453 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 3: to you, does the UFC really want to make fights 454 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 3: with the DZ brothers or is there something else at 455 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 3: play here? 456 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: Yes and no, here's the deal. All of these comments 457 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: I believe did come from that Q and A that 458 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: we referenced on Friday with Laura Sankos. So you got 459 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, new fresh. But I know 460 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: Brett also has an interview along on with Dana that 461 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: I haven't chipped into yet. But I think Dana's comments 462 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: have been very dismissive of Nick, but they're not wrong. 463 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: But if this is the road Dana wants to go, 464 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: saying Nick just doesn't look like he has it or 465 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: wants it or should be in there anymore, then I 466 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: think they should cut him straight up. Luke, you know 467 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not really up to Dana whether 468 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: Nick is ultimately in the right by wanting to continue 469 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: his career. We've all said long in multiple times that 470 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: a reunion with Scott Cooker, if Nick wants to keep 471 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: fighting for real, probably the best bet for a lot 472 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: of different reasons, and why don't we just see that happen. 473 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: I think Nate's a little bit different because he's got 474 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: more left in the tank, and because we just understand 475 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: that it's hard to negotiate with the Diaz brothers. I 476 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: have largely been on the side of the brothers when 477 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: looking back at the last five six years and looking 478 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: for both Despite the two Connor fights, UFC didn't do 479 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: what it had to do to cash in on them enough. 480 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: If they wanted to, they could have made both of 481 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: these guys major pay per view stars, not just in 482 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: the way of being Connor McGregor's B side, as Nate was, 483 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: and that's how he truly crossed over. But you know 484 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: they could have built on that and not allowed him 485 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: to sit out the multiple years that followed. And I 486 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: think Nate, into some degree is in that same category. 487 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: So I do give some leeway to Dana that, even 488 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: though I've been pro dias in this discussion, they're not 489 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: easy to deal with and negotiate. This could be more 490 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: of a response to some of the feelers he does 491 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: get when he talks to Nate's team in terms of 492 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: the money and opponent he's looking for next. I wouldn't 493 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: doubt that Nate is basically like, give me Connor every 494 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: time he talks to him, or give me habib, or 495 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: give me five million dollars or something, where Dana is 496 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: just like nah, I'm not sure he really wants to 497 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: fight anymore. So I think we'll see Nate again in 498 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: the UFC. I love it two three more times, no guarantee. 499 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Nick ever fights in the octagon again. 500 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't think he should either, but if he wants 501 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: to do, if he wants to have an ending, there 502 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: are places to have a happy ending, not talking at 503 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: all about that studio in Jersey or Robert Craft's after 504 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: work stop. But you know where I'm going with. 505 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 3: That, I don't. But what I'll say is, I think 506 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: you're right about Nick Diaz. I don't understand how you, 507 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 3: as a promoter can make a statement like that, which is, 508 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 3: you know, he didn't say I'm not sure if it's 509 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: a good idea for Nick to be fighting right now exactly. 510 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: He didn't say, like, you know, Nick and I have 511 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: to figure out some things before I'm even really comfortable 512 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: with this, where you know, you're sort of opening the 513 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: door to the possibility of things and expressing some degree 514 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 3: of concern for the you know, the medical responsibility that 515 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 3: you might have as a promoter to put somebody in 516 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 3: there who you don't think is really eligible for these 517 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: kinds of contests anymore. If you had said that, it 518 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: would still be a little bit eyebrow raising, but you could, 519 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 3: I think a little bit more justified. But just saying 520 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: why would anyone even want to see him? Well, gee, guy, 521 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: if no one really wants to see him, or even 522 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 3: should want to see him, why are you still in 523 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: business with him? Cut him, release him. You have nothing 524 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: to do with this guy anymore. If your real objection 525 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 3: is that not only should there not be fights with him, 526 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: what on earth would compel someone to even want to 527 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: see him out there and listen. I don't even think 528 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 3: it's a crazy thing to say that. I don't think 529 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: it's wrong to necessarily look at the guy's history of 530 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: what he's been doing and say, oh, well, maybe he's 531 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: making a turn around now. Yeah, it could be too little, 532 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: too late, you know, I don't buy this recent act. 533 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: I don't think that's a crazy statement for me to make, 534 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 3: for a fan, to make, for a neutral observer to make, 535 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 3: who maybe was introduced to this information. It's weird for 536 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: the guy in business with him to say that if 537 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: you're in business with the guy, that is everything you need, 538 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 3: Like that's the opposite of how you would want of 539 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: view any of this, or just don't be in business 540 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: with him anymore. And I think the assessment is otherwise, 541 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: you know, debatable, but not crazy. 542 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: When it comes to Nate. 543 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: That's the other one that I always bristle when folks 544 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: are like, he's hard to negotiate with, hard to negotiate 545 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 3: with relative to what, like, what is he saying there? 546 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: That data has to go in there and suck his 547 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 3: toes and shovel his walk when it gets snowy, and 548 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: give him piggyback around when he feels like it at 549 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 3: you know, four in the morning, when he needs to 550 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: go to Shua Wah to get hot dogs made especially 551 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: for him. Like, what is he saying? 552 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: The only snow in the two nine is white lightning? 553 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: If you know what I mean, Okay, I. 554 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 3: Understand what you mean. I'm just saying this. I've talked 555 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 3: to Diaz as people for a long time, and I've 556 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: heard what the other side is asking. It's not what 557 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: people think it is. Yes, it is certainly way more 558 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: than the average UFC headliner is even accustomed to getting. Yes, 559 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 3: it is relative to that standard. He is certainly pushing 560 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 3: the boundary relative to what an a side might get 561 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 3: in boxing. 562 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: And I recognize BC. 563 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: I get it. This is not boxing, I understand, But 564 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you, relative to what those guys might get, 565 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 3: there's nothing crazy about it. It's not crazy at all. 566 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: So I understand that the UFC has a role to play. 567 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 3: They want to negotiate blah blah blah, but then coming 568 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: out there and bad faithing this whole thing, and then 569 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 3: making the daz Is look like what they want is, 570 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 3: you know, a pink limousine to pick them up, to 571 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 3: give them rides to Disneyland and to have Disneyland closes 572 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 3: at their best. Well, they're not. They're not asking for 573 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: things that any other headliner in a a side headliner 574 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: combat sports wouldn't ask for. 575 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: And Dana's a bad faither. He lies publicly and under 576 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: the grounds of negotiation and intimidation. The only time he 577 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: took an l was at Wyami Bay. We get this, Luke, Okay, 578 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: I mean it is what it is in that regard, 579 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: But what will happen? First, get your sorcerer hat on, 580 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: tell me my future, Luke, Nate Diaz, Jorge maz Vidal too, 581 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: or Nick Diaz, Paul Daily to under the Belator MMA banner. 582 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 3: It's gotta be the rematch of the BMF. There are 583 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: still people who think that like Diaz was in that fight. 584 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: I'm not one of them, but. 585 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: I think Canelo was one of them because he was 586 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: sleeping on the couch watching it. 587 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: Luke. Yeah, Yeah, that was fun. That was a fun, 588 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 3: fun time for his own. Yeah. The idea that I mean, 589 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 3: here's the thing. Danny can say what he wants about Nick, 590 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: well about anything really, But you know, you accusing a 591 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 3: promoter of you know, bad faithing it, or you know, 592 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 3: being contradictory, is you know, accusing of Zebra of having stripes? 593 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 3: I mean, this is just what promoters do, no matter 594 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: who they are, no matter where they are, just just 595 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 3: different degrees and in different ways. So the idea that 596 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: they're going to release Nick knowing that he would be 597 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: a pay per view commodity for somebody else or a 598 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: huge a side let's say, I just don't find realistic. Plus, 599 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: you know, Scott Cooker has a proven ability to work 600 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: with the Diaz brothers at least Nick, you know, with 601 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 3: Strike Force, so you know they should. 602 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 4: It's the responsible thing to do. 603 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: But is it? What have you thought of the idea? 604 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: It's it's odd because in some ways, a big part 605 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: of Nate Diaz, I'm sorry, Nick Diaz, the older brother, 606 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: becoming a star was the crossroads opportunity he got in 607 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: Strikeforce against Frank Shamrock and he beat the legend and 608 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: sort of, you know, it took there was a little 609 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: bit of a transaction that night of a future star 610 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: on the rise. Can can can Nick play that role 611 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: for Belat or would he want to? There are enough 612 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: fights to be made in there. Could he competently pull 613 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: off that role, which is just going there and make 614 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: some fun win and lose celebrity fights. 615 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 3: I mean the other part is ken belt Or afford him. 616 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 3: I don't know if Beltor can afford him. They have 617 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: to really pull some strings. They don't. I don't know 618 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 3: they I don't. I don't know if they have a 619 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: guy on the roster who could command the payday that 620 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 3: Nick could command, assuming like he could say, Hey, I 621 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 3: could still draw X for UFC, you should pay me 622 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 3: something commensurate to come and work with you, in part 623 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: because I'm not even sure who the opponent would be. Again, 624 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: you could do the daily fight again, but would that 625 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: really draw the numbers to justify the PA. 626 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Can't serve him up to MVP, right, Yeah? 627 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 3: That and the like. Also, you'd have to put that 628 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: on CBS. You know, this is the guy that got 629 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: him kicked off of CBS to a degree. Like, there's 630 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 3: a lot of moving parts there with Belto. They don't 631 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: make it so easy. I'm just saying, if you think 632 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: that nobody should even want to see him. What are 633 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 3: you doing in business with him? I mean that makes 634 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: zero sense. 635 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 5: So yeah, that's uncle Joey Gladstone on that right, that's 636 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 5: your move, that's your go to joke, right, yes, all right? 637 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Hey is this thing? I'm luke. I don't want to 638 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: touch it. It doesn't break. 639 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: All right? Top topic topic Topic number three. If I 640 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: go the wrong side here, I'll go to this side. Sorry. 641 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: Adrian Broner is returning to the ring on Showtime of 642 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 3: All Places BC. It'll be in February, I believe, the 643 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: day before Valentine's Day BC. Let me tell you something 644 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 3: sad that I saw in researching this. Now he's been 645 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: off for two years. There was a time when he 646 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: was a what a four division champ, four time world 647 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: champion anyway where he had won numerous titles. I remember 648 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: when they were right in glowing h you know, reviews 649 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 3: of him and he had his nickname ab about billions. 650 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 4: But he is O's because he was sued for. 651 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: Damages for assaulting somebody, a woman I believe in a nightclub. 652 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: He was sued and he was forced to pay over 653 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: eight hundred thousand. He is doing cash app requests on 654 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: social media and I think he's still seven hundred thousand 655 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 3: plus short that try. By the way, that hearing again 656 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 3: is going to be in February before this contest. My 657 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: guess as much of this purse is going to go 658 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: to downplay pay that And he was being mocked by 659 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: his own viewers in the comments. I won't even say 660 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 3: some of the mean things they were saying. 661 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: Where is Broner? 662 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: How much should we care? Can he still be good? 663 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: He seems to be training very hard, trying to really 664 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: get back. He seems to be on the road to recovery. 665 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: Give us your sense of things about what is still 666 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: possible for this guy. 667 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: Now, look, you have to understand again, we don't choose 668 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: who we love. I don't love Adrian Burne. I'm not 669 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: an AB super fan, but I have what I call 670 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: the zab Judah disease with him, where sometimes we have 671 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: these fighters where we just believe in their their ceiling, 672 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: maybe more than they do, maybe more than their critics do, 673 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: maybe more than the el's we've seen them take do. 674 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: I use zab Judah as the reference because that was 675 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: a guy who had freaking through the roof talent, even 676 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: though he was a world champion of multiple divisions and 677 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: had a good run. He never quite matched that out 678 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: yet he also you never counted them out even in 679 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: his late thirties. You're like, well, I what if Zep 680 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: could have one more run there? I believe that about 681 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: ab Luke because the tools are there, he just doesn't 682 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: use them. He's only thirty one. He's had enough bad headlines, arrests, 683 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: public almost suicide attempts on Instagram. He's had enough really 684 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: bad things happened to him that he shouldn't even be 685 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: in this conversation in some ways where we're like, could 686 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: he still turn it around? Yet in some degree, I 687 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: think he can still turn it around. What does that mean? 688 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: Not become a pound for pound fighter, not going to 689 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: become you know, that kind of level, but become a 690 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: competent big fight fighter and use his brand and actually 691 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: win a big fight again. I think it's possible. And 692 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: the reason why is because he's always had certain intangibles 693 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: that you just can't teach a chin, a willingness to 694 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: go after it when he's plugged in and focused, you know, 695 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: quickness in power that does carry up to one forty 696 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: not really so much at one forty seven. The problem 697 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: has always been him, not just the lack of training 698 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: and you know, taking his career in personal life seriously. 699 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: But in the ring, he fights like a guy who 700 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: has he you know, he fought at one thirty five 701 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: like a large lightweight with big power. He never evolved 702 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,479 Speaker 1: out of that mentality and became more of a boxer, 703 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: which is what he needs to do. He has great 704 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: natural skills that really haven't been fully eroded yet. It's 705 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: not impossible that he puts it back together, gets himself 706 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: back into it, even a big pay per view fight 707 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: where you're like, wow, it looks pretty good. He might 708 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he has a chance to win this 709 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: rather than just being a ratings draw and a clown. 710 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him that chance because I've seen the 711 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: videos he's he's seems to have gotten clean for alcohol abuse, 712 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: gotten back in shape. We don't know what it's going 713 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: to look like. This fight is not official, hasn't been announced, 714 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: but you see the reports, the rumors. I think Mike 715 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: Coppinger of the Athletic I saw it on boxing scene. 716 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: It could be of Pedro Kampa I think was the 717 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: opponent's name. Thirty one to one in one, but hasn't 718 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: beaten anybody. Maybe this is the right type of comeback fight, 719 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: just show yourself. But Luke, I'm I've been. I've been 720 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, called out for this in the past. I'm 721 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: just not ready to close the book on him. Maybe 722 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: I never will be. Maybe I'll always have the zab 723 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: Judah blinders on. I just see a guy with a 724 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: lot of talent who's really never actually properly used it. 725 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: Is he a foreign division champion, Yes, but it's as 726 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: weak a statement as you can make in modern proliferation 727 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: of belts boxing, where he never beat an established champion. 728 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: Even the biggest win of his career poly Malanaji for 729 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: the welterway title was a split decision, very disputed, and 730 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: ab kind of took his foot off the gas. But uh, 731 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, Luke, you know what I want best 732 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 1: for him. I certainly don't want a tragic ending. I 733 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: certainly want somebody who can go back out there, make 734 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: a living for his family, get out of the trouble 735 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: that he's in, and put himself in a spot to 736 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: win a big fight to close his career, because that's 737 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: really the problem with him. Yeah, he had the big 738 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: win over Antonio DeMarco at one thirty five. Yeah, that 739 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: Paul Malanauje when I talked about, But it's very hollow 740 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: in between. I mean, did he fight Jesse Vargas in 741 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: a fun brawl and it was good to see. Yeah, 742 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: but he hasn't had that big win, Luke, You're not 743 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: gonna remember this, but the big loss of his career, 744 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: the big big loss, the Madonna fight that broke the 745 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: internet that night he was coming on late. People forget 746 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: that AB was coming on in the final round. There 747 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: there's a fighter's heart deep inside there. I want to 748 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: see him pull it back out eight one. 749 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 3: That was eight years ago. 750 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: It was. Yet he hasn't disqualized somehow, Lukey has not 751 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: disqualified his his long term potential. I still think there's 752 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of glimmer left and maybe it's a 753 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: want more than a belief. But uh, it's in there, Luke, 754 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: it's in there. 755 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you what his best win was, 756 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 3: you said, Paul Melanauji. I was there for the Theafhane fight. 757 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 3: People were upset that he Now that was a stoppage. 758 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: People thought that. I remember because my wife and I 759 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 3: were leaving the DC Armory, and I remember sort of 760 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 3: listening to what the crowd was saying about the fight. 761 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 3: They all thought Berner was losing up until he managed 762 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 3: to score the stoppage, but they were not happy with 763 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: the way that the fight was conducted or Broner's overall performance. 764 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: I guess you could say he goes on to beat Grenados. 765 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: That was his last win. That was in February of 766 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen. Man, it'll been four years nearly to the 767 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 3: day by the time he gets back in there. 768 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: But I'm not going to try to like paint a 769 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: Rosie picture. He's a He's a tragic item, right, Like 770 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: this is all his own fault, Luke, and you know not. 771 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: And there's a reason to hate him, right, I mean, 772 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: in his biggest fight. 773 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,439 Speaker 3: I'm not telling the audience to hate him. I'm simply 774 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 3: still describing he had a moment there. We had a 775 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: couple of losses, my Donna Porter, Okay, fine, you got 776 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 3: you got some stumbling along the way. But what happened 777 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 3: was things begin to go wrong there in his personal 778 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 3: life and his last three fights. He had the Garcia loss, 779 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 3: the Vargas draw, and then the Pacquiao loss. The Pacio 780 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: loss was January of twenty nineteen. He hasn't fought since then. Well, 781 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 3: that was even more legal trouble since then. 782 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: You can hate him for the legal trouble and the 783 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: inappropriate comments and all that, but even that aside, real 784 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: boxing fans hate him, Luke, because he stopped trying in 785 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: some of his biggest fights. Right. It was a lifeless 786 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: loss to Mikey Yarcia, a lifeless loss to Pacquiao where 787 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: he almost got stopped and was kind of running for 788 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: his life. We didn't see the same fighting heart and 789 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 1: defeat that he had against My Donna that he had 790 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: even against Sean Porter when he rallied to drop him 791 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: in the final round despite taking the loss in that one. 792 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: That's what you really want to see for him, win 793 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: or lose. You just want to see the best Browner 794 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,359 Speaker 1: has left. You know, you're not gonna make a lot 795 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: of money betting that he has a lot left. But 796 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's impossible here, Luke. 797 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,479 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I think also if somebody can get clean, 798 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: and these are ifs, but if somebody can get clean, 799 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 3: and if somebody while still thirty one can train hard, 800 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 3: and if somebody can begin to reflect on their mistakes 801 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 3: and if somebody can say, all right, some of the 802 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 3: damage here to my life and to my career is irreversible, 803 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: but there is still something left positively for me to contribute. 804 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 3: There are some major, major paydays I can contribute. There 805 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 3: are some lessons I can learn from my mistakes. There 806 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 3: is living on a straight and narrow There is getting 807 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 3: clean to the extent that that's a real thing that 808 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 3: he does, and well, there's no way to know until 809 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 3: time shows us. But to the extent that that's real, 810 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: that's impossible to root against. You cannot cheer against that 811 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 3: if someone is really trying to make a change, both 812 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 3: for the health of themselves, the health of the mind, 813 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: and the health and the well being of the people 814 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 3: around them. Broner has made every mistake almost imaginable at 815 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 3: this point, but not so much that there is still 816 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: not that possibility in front of him. 817 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 4: So can he do it? We shall see. 818 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what it's gonna look like real quick. 819 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: Whether he can do it, it's got to stay away from 820 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: welterweight unless he is gonna completely rebuild his style to 821 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: be solely around boxing and not punching. He can't. He 822 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have the power to compete with these welterweights. And 823 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 1: when he does get in there with him, he tries 824 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: to act like a puncher. It's the big fights have 825 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: to come at one forty and he's gonna have to 826 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: step on the gas. He's gonna have to establish a jab. 827 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: He cannot be the low output counterpuncher. If you see 828 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: him in a comeback fight, maybe not this one, maybe 829 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 1: a bigger one after that, and you see him letting 830 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 1: his hands go early and the fights at one hundred 831 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: and forty pounds, that will be, in my opinion, the 832 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: only foundation that he can really sit on to try 833 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: to make this comeback work. 834 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I'm curious to see what he 835 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 3: can do. I have managed expectations. I think you do 836 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 3: as well, But I am curious because he is talking 837 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,959 Speaker 3: a big game about just doing the right thing. Now, 838 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 3: can he do it? That's a hard thing to do 839 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 3: after you've made that many mistakes in your life. But 840 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: we shall certainly see. 841 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: I remember who was calling him out the PBC Galaxy One. 842 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 3: People people were saying. People were saying that Browner should 843 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 3: be Campa, and I agree he should, but this to 844 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 3: me is the right kind of fight to get back. 845 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 3: Based on where he was and where he's been, he 846 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:39,399 Speaker 3: needs a bit of a softer reintroduction to get more. 847 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 3: Even talk about the rugaroos of the world, who's the 848 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 3: elite in that division, so that that will. 849 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,919 Speaker 1: Get him a mere con, give him a big name 850 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: with us bad chin, get him a mira con already, 851 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: let's do it. 852 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 4: Whom I just quit if you touch him lightly on 853 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 4: the balls? 854 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 3: Okay? Topic number four not much of a topic, which 855 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 3: is kind of a fun thing to entertain here for 856 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 3: a second, b see do I go this way again? 857 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 3: I can never remember. Yes. Oh, someone's ringing the doorbell 858 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: and my family's nowhere to be found. They're probably having 859 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 3: a keen signiera again outside my door. I don't know 860 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 3: what's going on. Okay, well, there's just a melee here 861 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 3: happening in my fucking living room. Uh. Connor McGregor BC 862 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 3: took to Instagram looking absolutely jacked beyond all belief, not 863 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 3: suggesting he's on the Yusada hitlist, just saying looks like 864 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 3: he's been training very very well. On top of that, 865 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: put out one of his mystic mac predictions. BC was 866 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 3: very complimentary of Dustin. I have to say I found 867 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 3: that very interesting, called him not just a good fighter, 868 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,839 Speaker 3: any elite fighter, but even at elite. He noted there 869 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: are different levels, and the level he's at is just 870 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 3: too great for someone like Dustin Poirier. So saying he's 871 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 3: gonna knock Parier out inside of sixty seconds, what are 872 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 3: you expecting physically given these pronouncements, Giving what we're seeing 873 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 3: on Instagram? Where where's your head at on McGregor these days? 874 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: Again not trying to Robert barsh but I think we're 875 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: gonna see the very best of what McGregor has left 876 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: in this fight, and I think this will start a 877 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: really big year for him in a big chapter. I 878 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna beat Dustin right, We'll get 879 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: our predictions as we get closer. We'll we'll really fine 880 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: tooth it. I certainly like his style. I certainly believe 881 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: that what we saw in that Cowboy fight was not 882 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: fool's gold. You know, it was cowboy. It was Cowboy 883 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: didn't even show up in some ways too, but it 884 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: was also the mindset, the look in the eyes. 885 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 3: You know. 886 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: Had a great talk if you missed this with Rashad 887 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: Evans during our UFC two fifty seven early preview show 888 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: we did last week that just like when you see 889 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: a this is this is not gonna be the Connor 890 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 1: of old again, because that Connor's gone, meaning the guy 891 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: who gets so freakin fired up emotionally to prove you 892 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,439 Speaker 1: wrong and outman you and all that. What we saw 893 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 1: and look in the Cowboy build is really where Connor 894 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: should be operating mentally to be in the right spot, 895 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: which is you know, almost a little bit reformed, humble, 896 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: but but smart and confident and knowing where he is. 897 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: So what do I believe when I see these physical 898 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: pictures both of him making the way easier than ever 899 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: before and also being you know, pretty damn jacked, It 900 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: shows me that he's gonna put his best foot forward, Luke, 901 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: And I think we should expect not only a great fight, 902 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: which you got expected in this in this match, this 903 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: rematch is so freaking good on paper for so many 904 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: different reasons. But I think you, if you are a 905 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: Connor guy and you want to believe that he can be, 906 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 1: you know, a truly elite pound for pound fighter, one 907 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: more time, have one more big run. He's doing. He's 908 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: setting the foundation here he's doing what I think he 909 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: needs to do, which is getting himself obviously physically mentally 910 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: ready for this Luke. I could not be more confident 911 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: at the version of him we're going to see now Again, 912 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: that may never be enough to beat this version of Dustin. 913 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: That's why this fight's so good. But I think there's 914 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: enough reason to believe that you can actually favor you 915 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: can actually bet on Connor, and you can believe that 916 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: that he can do this. Luke. He's not going to 917 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: be the same guy he was in twenty sixteen. He's 918 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: a different person. But I think the lost Weekend, the 919 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: lost years in between, they haven't been as damaging as 920 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 1: maybe they could have been. He's back in a very 921 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: good spot looking to do some big damage here. So 922 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm a believer. 923 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 3: Two things I would say. One, I've always felt like 924 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 3: one to fifty five Connor is the most dangerous Connor. Now, 925 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 3: we don't have a ton of tape on that. As 926 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 3: a consequence of some you know, he had the fight 927 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 3: against Alvarez and then the fight against Kabib, and the 928 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 3: could be fight had some certainly some questions around it, 929 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 3: although he had some good moments. 930 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 4: In that fight as well. 931 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 3: But you know, I still believe that if he's dialed 932 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 3: in right opponent, staying consistent one fifty five, it lets 933 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 3: his power come to life. But not he still has 934 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 3: to maintain weight and really have a discipline game plan 935 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 3: in life in order to really get the maximum out 936 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 3: of that weight class. Whereas one forty five too much 937 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 3: of a drain, one seventy too much leeway. So I 938 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 3: really like the goldilocks nature of that one to fifty 939 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 3: five division for him, and he appears to be, you know, 940 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 3: bearing the fruits of that. The second thing I'd say 941 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 3: is one of the reasons John Jones is super elite, 942 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: at least not just now, but like when he was 943 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 3: doing something really special. Yeah, he was beating all these 944 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 3: guys and that was really important, But the thing that 945 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 3: was just blowing everyone away was he wasn't for a time, 946 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 3: even living in Albuquerque. He would go there for a 947 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 3: while and then come back to where he was living. 948 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 3: Certainly he changed that up, but what I mean to 949 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 3: say is he wasn't doing the conventional GSP thing where 950 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 3: you were just twenty four to seven martial arts. You 951 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 3: maybe just ramped up your training during camp. John would 952 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 3: just take time off. Now, what's interesting is you can 953 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 3: see boxers do that, but boxers a the best practices 954 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 3: in that sport are a little bit more well known 955 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 3: and developed too. A lot of those guys start when 956 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 3: they're very young, right, So you picking up a skill, 957 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 3: almost like a language, you could take a little bit 958 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 3: of time off if you're already that far ahead of 959 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 3: your peers and not lose and seed too much ground. 960 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 3: I never thought of Connor in that way, and I'm 961 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 3: not here ready to declare him that, but maybe in 962 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 3: the striking department when he was talking about how much 963 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 3: more advanced he was in his opposition, there may be 964 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 3: something to that. Dot dot dot. If he can beat 965 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 3: Dustin Is in sixty seconds, I don't know, but let's say, 966 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 3: get an authoritative win if you can take time off 967 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 3: from the game in which he has taken off considerable 968 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 3: amounts at this point, literally years. If you add it 969 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 3: all up during portions of his prime and still beat 970 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 3: this version of Dustin Poirier, let's see. Let's say again, 971 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 3: you know, uh, whatever it means, but authoritatively by the 972 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 3: time he gets his hand. 973 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 4: Raised, dude, that is special. That is very, very difficult 974 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 4: to do. 975 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 3: Not a lot of people can do that, So we 976 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 3: are speculating very much about what will happen. Maybe Poorio 977 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 3: goes in there and blows the doors off of him, 978 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 3: fair enough, But if he can even remotely bring to 979 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 3: life the kinds of things he is talking about, if 980 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 3: you can get in there, compete, do well win while 981 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,879 Speaker 3: having these extended break specie, you know, you may have 982 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 3: to reconsider exactly just what Connor McGregor we were getting 983 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 3: during that one forty five mediorc rise. And that's even 984 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 3: with all of the praise and amplification we've already given it. 985 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I get that there are people that 986 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: are listening to this that are just like, you know, 987 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: don't believe in Cottoner anymore, And I get that, or 988 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: maybe it never did, and are sort of like, you know, oh, 989 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 1: you American journalists sucking him off and all that. But 990 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: let's look at this. Look, if he's gonna do this 991 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,399 Speaker 1: and re establish his prime and have another super elite run, 992 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: he'll be doing what only the truly great ones have done. Like, 993 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: in reference to some of the points you're making, it 994 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 1: almost like GSP coming back against Bisbeeing or Sugary Leonard. 995 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 3: Or quite that GSP was a proven commodity in ways 996 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 3: that Connor just can't be true. 997 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not apples to apples, but the whole 998 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: idea of taking long stretches off and coming back and 999 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: needing to be right back at your very best. You know, 1000 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,720 Speaker 1: Sugary Leonard against Marvin Haler, Roy Floyd Mayweather multiple times 1001 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: during the second half of his run when he would 1002 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: go away for a year or two or whatever. I 1003 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: that was part of the fuel Luke of why I 1004 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: picked him to beat Habib in that fight, and why 1005 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,240 Speaker 1: everyone was, you know, telling me and you know rightfully, 1006 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: so right it's a bad style matchup. Habib really is 1007 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: that good? I was like, no, the magic's still there. 1008 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: I still believe that, you know, this guy is truly 1009 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: of that upper upper upper ill. He'll figure this out now. 1010 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean I was necessarily wrong. I was maybe 1011 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: wrong about how Beebe's upper bound limits to steal Luke 1012 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: Fras and his ability to do ultimately what he did 1013 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: to Connor. But am I am I grasping for a 1014 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: straw to believe some of the excuses or reasons Connor 1015 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,919 Speaker 1: has had that the two twenty nine camp really wasn't 1016 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: on the up and up, that he was partying in between, 1017 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,240 Speaker 1: that he wasn't listening to coaches, that he was sparring 1018 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: too much, that he was not you know, that he 1019 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: was focusing too much on wrestling defense than trying to 1020 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 1: go out there and finish. I think there are actually 1021 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: enough reasons to actually believe that, Luke. And again, this 1022 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: might all be a great story. Connor as focused as ever, 1023 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,959 Speaker 1: the best shape he's ever been in, blah blah blah, 1024 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: and as you mentioned, it still might not be good 1025 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 1: enough to be pouriech, so it could be a moot point. 1026 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: But I just don't think no matter how critical and 1027 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 1: hard you look at Connor in general, you can't see 1028 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: these signs as being very positive and at least talk 1029 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 1: yourself into the idea that the guy at two twenty 1030 00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: nine that wasn't the real Connor. You know, jury's out 1031 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,799 Speaker 1: if the real quote unquote real Connor is still in there, 1032 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: but I believe he is. 1033 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 3: We're gonna get a real clear shot of who the 1034 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 3: real Connor is here. I think this is gonna be 1035 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 3: very telling. Is this a guy who still retains all 1036 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 3: the advantages he once did as a striker at one 1037 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,799 Speaker 3: fifty five. We're gonna find out. Is this a guy 1038 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 3: who had a run and the magic is over. We're 1039 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 3: gonna find out is this a guy who you know 1040 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,760 Speaker 3: was able to get past Dustin Poarier back when they fought. 1041 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 4: Was it six years ago or so at this point? 1042 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,919 Speaker 3: Uh, and it's still pretty good, but not good enough 1043 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 3: now against Dustin Poarier. In no words, is there a 1044 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 3: big back and forth. Both guys get dropped at Poitier 1045 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 3: gets his hand raised. In the end, we're gonna see 1046 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,759 Speaker 3: exactly where he is. I'm merely articulating that I don't 1047 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 3: believe in the mystic mac bullshit. But what I am 1048 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 3: saying is if he looks this good and again at 1049 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 3: one fifty five, we have reason to think that's his 1050 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,319 Speaker 3: best weight class, and then on top of it, goes 1051 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 3: up there and has a dominant performance. That is an if. 1052 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 3: That is not a guarantee. In no way shape performs 1053 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 3: at a guarantee. But if he does, given the time off, 1054 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 3: you just have to at that point, if if we 1055 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 3: get there, you'd have to call a spade a spade. 1056 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 3: And it's not an implausible scenario where you just how 1057 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 3: could that ever happen. That's a real distinct possibility that 1058 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 3: could happen in a matter of two weeks. You have 1059 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 3: to take that very seriously. So we're just saying, thinking 1060 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 3: about to use the phrase I like to use BC 1061 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 3: the upper bound limit of what is possible for McGregor, 1062 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 3: it's huge. Now we'll have a conversation about this down 1063 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 3: the road, about Poitier as well. But for those reasons, 1064 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 3: I think it just adds enormous amounts of intrigue to 1065 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 3: the economy gregor story. 1066 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: To use another Luke term, to the extent I have 1067 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: no idea what that means. But to the extent Luke, 1068 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: don't count out the mystic mac bullshit. Yet the magic, 1069 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: the magic wasn't there two twenty nine, doesn't mean it's dead, Luke. 1070 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: Because even though the magic or against Floyd, even though 1071 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: the magic orgon orgons nate the first time, I think 1072 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: he extinguished a bit of the potential of the magic 1073 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: by by you know that the headspace he was in. 1074 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is do I what do I 1075 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 1: believe in this real magic? It's like it's the force 1076 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: or something. Well, sometimes it can be like that, But 1077 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: I think the magic is fueled by the combination of 1078 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: being in the best freaking shape as dialed in as 1079 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: you can possibly be, and then having that other worldly 1080 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: confidence and belief in yourself, like the Muhammad Ali level 1081 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: confidence that just raises your game in the highest moments. 1082 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: Don't be uh, don't be talking bad about that magic, 1083 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 1: because that magic might kick your ass. 1084 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 3: Luke. 1085 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so you can you can you know, sit in 1086 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 1: front of me the mayor three times and beatlejuice it 1087 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: out of him. But it's still it could still be 1088 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: there called January twenty third, Luke, I have no idea 1089 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: of what I just said was uh, you know, absolute 1090 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 1: genius in expanding people's minds, or or it's gonna get 1091 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 1: as closer to uh to never making a hundred hundred. 1092 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you that, you know, if you 1093 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:41,919 Speaker 4: here's it Like. 1094 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people think we're just talking 1095 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: into this microphone. 1096 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 3: Luke, what are you doing? Art? 1097 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: Bro? 1098 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 1: This is art? You know what I'm saying? Like this 1099 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 1: is like this is like like a you know, like 1100 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,959 Speaker 1: like a like a painting, like this is you. 1101 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 4: Know, you wildly overestimate your gifts. 1102 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 1: Okay, this is speaking. 1103 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 3: Of someone who has wildly overestimated his gifts. Let's talk 1104 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 3: about President Trump here for just a second, and at 1105 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,239 Speaker 3: least UFC's relationship to him. So folks were doing some 1106 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,320 Speaker 3: digging and I verified it as well, and it is truly 1107 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 3: the case right now. As of now, they've actually gone 1108 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 3: back and changed it. But as of last night this 1109 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 3: was certainly true. The UC had put out a propaganda piece, 1110 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 3: which is their right, but that's what it was, called 1111 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 3: Combatant in Chief, this sort of piece grossly overstating the 1112 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 3: importance that President Trump played in the role of the UFC. Now, 1113 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 3: he did play a role that is I think at 1114 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,280 Speaker 3: least worth acknowledging, which was when the UFC was struggling 1115 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 3: at times to get venues in major locations, they were 1116 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 3: able to go to Trump taj Mahal in Atlantic City 1117 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 3: and put on some of their fights. And this was 1118 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,600 Speaker 3: when there was regulatory battles, there was battles about getting 1119 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 3: what kind of exposure in terms of broadcast opportunities they had. 1120 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 3: So certainly certainly true that he played a helpful role 1121 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 3: in that regard, and as we all know, he was 1122 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 3: there for the Massvitol and DS fight. I think FC, 1123 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 3: were you there for that fight. The security was nuts 1124 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 3: trying to get in there. No, I was at the 1125 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right. Security was crazy trying to 1126 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 3: get in there. So, you know, he has been a 1127 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 3: fight fan for a long time, and I think that 1128 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,920 Speaker 3: deserves to be acknowledged. Okay, fair enough, But this idea 1129 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 3: that like he saved the UFC or but for those 1130 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 3: shows they would never have continued, was just, you know, well, 1131 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 3: can we. 1132 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: Just be honest The UFC was cheap entertainment for his 1133 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 1: casinos that were kind of struggling at that moment. 1134 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 3: And also right, also true, so he was a competitor. 1135 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 1: Yes, he also tried to help Affliction, you know, take 1136 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,360 Speaker 1: down the UFC. So can we you know, can we 1137 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 1: chill out here? 1138 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 3: There's a bigger picture here to play. Here's my point. 1139 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 3: Those videos are gone. They're not in their YouTube channel. 1140 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 3: And I checked on fight Pass, which is where I 1141 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,759 Speaker 3: originally saw it. It's not a fight Pass either. Now, 1142 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 3: someone told me that these videos did not come down 1143 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 3: this week following the results of the insurrection of the Capitol. 1144 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 3: They've been down for some weeks, maybe even some months 1145 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 3: at this time. I'm not exactly sure what the date is, 1146 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 3: but it's not this week. It happened prior to that. 1147 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 3: But BC, I mean, if you saw these videos and 1148 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 3: I saw him or the video, I should say. I mean, 1149 00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 3: I gotta be clear about this. They didn't just heat 1150 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 3: praise on Trump. They heaped an extraordinary amount on him. 1151 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 3: Why would they take them down? 1152 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,879 Speaker 1: Well, Look, I don't think it's a coincidence. I've seen 1153 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 1: those same tweets of people saying chill out the whole series, 1154 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: meaning the twenty five documentaries for the twenty fifth year anniversary, 1155 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,840 Speaker 1: their claiming was taked down. I didn't do the research 1156 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,359 Speaker 1: and see it, But Luke, I don't believe that it's 1157 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: a coincidence that Dana also took down the four minute 1158 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: video attacking the media, you know, talking about their fake 1159 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,479 Speaker 1: news in almost a Trumpian way, and delivering fake news 1160 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: in return. What I'm about to say next is not 1161 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 1: actually a political debate or discussion and really doesn't fall 1162 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: into whatever side you fall on. It's more of looking 1163 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 1: at what Dana White and company has done with their 1164 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: allegiance to Trump as a power move, and in some 1165 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 1: ways it was Look, it's like pro wrestling, of which, 1166 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: by the way, Donald Trump is a WWE Hall of Famer, 1167 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,240 Speaker 1: you align yourself with somebody, you get the rub. UFC 1168 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: the last four years got a very sort of mainstream 1169 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: rub from Donald Trump, you know that basically put them 1170 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: up to the forefront, government approved, you know, Don Junior 1171 00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,439 Speaker 1: showing up at the fights with the other other guy too. 1172 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: It's sort of you know, it was a beneficial mutual 1173 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: relationship in that regard. Dana spun it off to help 1174 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 1: him out and speak at the gatherings and all that. 1175 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 1: But now that brand is, you know, rightfully so toxic 1176 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 1: at the moment, or disputed at the moment, or under 1177 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: fire at the moment. So it would be smart, especially 1178 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: that this isn't UFC, the independent zoofa company privately owned. 1179 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: It's you know, the mainstream WME parent company which does 1180 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: business with Disney and ESPN and all these other things. 1181 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 1: It seems like a smart time to not do anything drastic, 1182 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: but just take a step back. And I was very 1183 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: surprised at that moment that that Scientology recruitment video that 1184 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: Dana put out there putting me at the forefront as 1185 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,080 Speaker 1: public enemy number one was taken down, because I figured 1186 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 1: that would live forever. Knowing Dana as like the you know, 1187 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: f you But Luke, that was very Trumpian and it seems, 1188 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,439 Speaker 1: you know, day in a company are just like, yeah, 1189 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: let's let's let this thing play out wherever it's going 1190 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: to go, so we don't end up like not on 1191 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: the wrong side of history, but like in the in 1192 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: the wrong side of the bed in history next to 1193 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 1: that man. So did do you have any other theory? 1194 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 3: Luke? Yeah, I mean I think the initial part of 1195 00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 3: your point is the is the correct one, which is 1196 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,800 Speaker 3: the prior to getting to bed with Trump in a 1197 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 3: political way. In the last few years, the UFC had 1198 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 3: an openly uh and with thusdation casinos as well with 1199 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 3: the Fertidas had an open league what do you want 1200 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 3: to call it? Cordial professional maybe even working relationship with 1201 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,719 Speaker 3: Harry Reid, who was sort of a you know, played 1202 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 3: a prominent role in the Senate as a Democrat for 1203 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 3: many many years. 1204 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,840 Speaker 4: Of course, he's from Nevada, who's a fight fan himself. 1205 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,920 Speaker 3: So the point being is, if there's somebody who is 1206 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 3: a leading politician that could play a role in the 1207 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 3: regulation of their sport, whether they are Democrat or the Republican, 1208 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,359 Speaker 3: if they're elite in some kind of way, so right, 1209 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 3: you're the you are in control essentially of the Senate 1210 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 3: or the presidency, or you know, you can play a 1211 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 3: big role in a committee something like that. They want, 1212 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 3: they want to probably talk to you. They probably want 1213 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,879 Speaker 3: to have some kind of open channel of communication with you. Now, 1214 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 3: I do think that Dana going and speaking on behalf 1215 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 3: of Trump at not one, but both conventions going to 1216 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 3: be a little bit hard to undo that legacy. That's 1217 00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 3: a little bit more than I think he ever did, 1218 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 3: as far as I'm aware, for any democratic politician. But 1219 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 3: in general, in general, if you're in a space where 1220 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:33,400 Speaker 3: you are potentially at peril essentially for your business of 1221 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 3: being regulated by federal authorities, it might be good to 1222 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,680 Speaker 3: have a working relationship with both sides, because Hello, there 1223 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 3: tends to be this overturn of power every two to 1224 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 3: four to six to eight years, and this might just 1225 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 3: be part of that. It might just be anticipatory of 1226 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,319 Speaker 3: that kind of thing. The idea that they would take 1227 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 3: it down for like, oh, we're taking down on all 1228 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 3: of our twenty fifth anniversary stuff, that to me seems bogus. 1229 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 4: Why would you do that, Like. 1230 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 3: What would you don't need there's no need to take 1231 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 3: it the video about the journalists being taken down, you know, 1232 00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 3: in an era where are real threats to them, that 1233 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 3: seems a little bit more understandable. But like the idea like, oh, 1234 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,320 Speaker 3: it was just part of a house cleaning of extra videos, 1235 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 3: give me extra unecessary videos I have all over YouTube 1236 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 3: and there, and if I passed, that seems to be 1237 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 3: a ludicrous explanation. So we'll have to see what they say. 1238 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 1: Business works luke tuor false? Okay, if we sadly, if 1239 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,319 Speaker 1: we sadly found out tomorrow that our own Jay was 1240 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,719 Speaker 1: just an absolute dirt hole privately and was you know, 1241 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,279 Speaker 1: involved in many hashtags that have brought some despicable activities 1242 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 1: to light, you know, not necessarily speaking about his business 1243 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: relationship with Ron Johnson, but you know, you do the math. 1244 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 1: We would probably remove all footprints of him on this 1245 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 1: show very quietly, right, take him out of the documentary, 1246 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: restore all proper technological advances in the show, and probably 1247 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: avoid Actually, look, now that we think about it, you 1248 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: want to do that anyway you want to. I mean, 1249 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,839 Speaker 1: this guy is kind of holding us back, right, I mean, 1250 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, technologically we are falling behind the competition due 1251 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 1: to our relationship with it. But you get my point. 1252 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say that you ever seen Garfield? 1253 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 3: He would mail was it normal to Abu Dhabi? He 1254 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 3: would literally stick I don't know if it was Normal 1255 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 3: or somebody else, but he would literally take the animal, 1256 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 3: stuff him in a box, go to the post office 1257 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 3: and mail him to Abu Dhabi. That's what we should 1258 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 3: do to Jay. We should just mail him, you know, 1259 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, in some kind of box where he 1260 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 3: could live in the box. But then get to Abu 1261 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 3: Dhabi and you just go live there. Guy, how about that? 1262 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 3: I think that's what we should do. 1263 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,360 Speaker 1: What language do they speak? 1264 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:32,560 Speaker 3: There? 1265 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,240 Speaker 1: Is that Farsi? 1266 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 3: No, that would be Iran. They speak Arabic and Abudabi. 1267 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: Okay, okay. 1268 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 3: That is it for our five main topics. It is 1269 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 3: now a time for you, the viewer, the listener to 1270 00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 3: ask us questions. It's time for dms from Diggity Donalds. 1271 00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 3: All right, let's get this going from Terrence Krounan. How 1272 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 3: many Instagram followers would Mike Tyson have if Instagram was 1273 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,040 Speaker 3: around in the late eighties one hundred mil plus Connor, 1274 00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,640 Speaker 3: by the way, sitting currently at thirty eight mil. Yes, 1275 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 3: all of them. 1276 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,680 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean look Mike Tyson at 1277 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,439 Speaker 1: the uh you know, thought right around the Michael Spinx fight, 1278 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: like he's the biggest name in sports. You could argue 1279 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: that he was the biggest name in pop culture. Look, 1280 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: you can argue he's the most famous American at that moment. 1281 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it was like stupid, the level that he got, 1282 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,920 Speaker 1: Like he wasn't just bigger than Jordan, he was a 1283 00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 1: lot bigger than Jordan and Bo Jackson and Larry Burden, 1284 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,920 Speaker 1: his contemporaries of that moment, Luke. I mean, it's just ridiculous. 1285 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 3: I mean maybe the most popular human alive entertainer. I 1286 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 3: mean that maybe that's not true because that was an 1287 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 3: era with Michael Jackson. So okay, maybe he was the 1288 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 3: most popular alone. 1289 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 1: We's not Jacko levels, but he's he's for an athlete, 1290 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: that's ridiculous. 1291 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, he would have had I think Rishiano 1292 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 3: Ronaldo has the most of anyone on uh on in 1293 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 3: Instagram and he has let's see Ronaldo has or Ronaldo 1294 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 3: I guess, as they would say in Brazil, has two 1295 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty three million. Yeah, he'd have a shitload. 1296 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 3: He'd be like that he'd be like that. Uh okay 1297 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 3: from Tehran Morris ninety eight BC. What sells more pay 1298 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 3: per views? Spence Crawford again, same question, Spence Crawford or 1299 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: Tank versus Ryan. We had this conversation. I'm glad they 1300 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 3: picked this question because we literally did ten or fifteen 1301 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 3: minutes on it on the very last show, So why 1302 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 3: not just recycle the conversation. 1303 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,200 Speaker 4: But to that point, we. 1304 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: Notice we don't have the same producers per show, Luke, 1305 00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 1: so that could be a part of it. I mean, 1306 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: Gaff has Look, we've been on a Gaff's basically firing 1307 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 1: a no hitter in the last couple of weeks. Like, yeah, 1308 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:47,080 Speaker 1: we've got the normal technological bullshit, you know, land mines 1309 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: to walk over, but Gaff has been driving this ship 1310 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: at a fairly functionable level in comparison. Like I mean, again, 1311 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to push Jay to the want it ads, 1312 00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: but you know, well, what. 1313 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,160 Speaker 4: Do you want to say? Do you want to just 1314 01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 4: have the conversation again? 1315 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 3: Do you want to tell people to go watch episode one, 1316 01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 3: oh fucking three or whatever? 1317 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, in theory, it should be Spence Crawford, but 1318 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: it's probably not because of the impact of the follow 1319 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: the followers and and celebrity friends that both Garcia and 1320 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Dravonte have built in short time, especially for you know, 1321 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,920 Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia lately. I mean, he'd already been big with 1322 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: the seven eight million Instagram followers from the young girls 1323 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: point of view, But what's just happened since his knockout 1324 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 1: victory over Luke Campbell and then the Mike Tyson thing 1325 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: and all that is He's I mean, he's making huge leaps. 1326 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,479 Speaker 1: So head to head right now, I'll take the younger guys, 1327 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,720 Speaker 1: I would. I think they can self promote themselves on 1328 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 1: a level that Spencer Crawford wouldn't know how to and couldn't. 1329 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 3: All right, let's go to at m a a artwork. 1330 01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,000 Speaker 3: Did you see Felice Harriggs only fans? This is a 1331 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 3: question for BC. He literally wrote that in the question. 1332 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know she had a only fans And no, 1333 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't mess with that area of life. 1334 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys realize this am happily 1335 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: married manner. I mean, there is a sanctity of marriage. 1336 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: You know, it is a thing, right, So not really 1337 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: into going on you know, the IG profiles of female 1338 01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 1: fighters and you know, snoop, snooping or chasing the muff 1339 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: around not really my thing. A lot of people in 1340 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 1: the quit in the comments and dms going. You had 1341 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,919 Speaker 1: PVZ on. You never even called her page. Uh only Zen, 1342 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: only vans En, And it's like, no, no stop, Okay, 1343 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what happens on OnlyFans, Luke. Okay, 1344 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 1: they say it goes down to the dms. 1345 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 3: All right. 1346 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,000 Speaker 1: I've asked Luke Rockole these no sold me on camera 1347 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 1: before about it. My dms don't look like that. My 1348 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: dms are very phallic in shape, Luke. They don't. They 1349 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,040 Speaker 1: don't look a lot like uh, you know, I don't. 1350 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't know about this. Should I should I be? 1351 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Should I? Should I secure the Dark Web? Should I 1352 01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: delete my search history and try to go out? 1353 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 4: It's not the dark web? 1354 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 3: Which is the web I'm looking here on the Felice Harrig, 1355 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 3: this is you can't see anythingunless you log in. And 1356 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 3: I am not paying for any of this, but Felice Harrig, 1357 01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 3: she's verified on only Fans and here's her. Here's her bio, 1358 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,600 Speaker 3: warm and fuzzy on the inside. Ninja Skills on the outside, 1359 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 3: lover and a fighter by popular demand. Feet she has 1360 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 3: a foot emoji and please don't send me dick pics 1361 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 3: talking to UBC. 1362 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: If somebody was gonna look her up on there, Luke, 1363 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: what was the addressed note? You kid? Just kidding. 1364 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 3: It's just oldfans dot com slash Foleice Herrick. 1365 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 1: By the way, it's spectacular. 1366 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 3: It's eight bucks a month, or you can get twenty 1367 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 3: one p fifty seven for three months or thirty eight 1368 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 3: thirty five for six months. I'm not mad at it. 1369 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,280 Speaker 3: I just here's my thing. I'm not mad at these 1370 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 3: women who want to do OnlyFans like God bless them. 1371 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:38,480 Speaker 4: You know, if there's a market for it, you can 1372 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 4: get paid. 1373 01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 3: Go get paid. Who cares? But I do have to say, 1374 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 3: I wonder is there any relationship between that and the 1375 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 3: level of pay that they get. That's my only question. 1376 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: In the UFC. You mean, yeah, are you saying that 1377 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 1: they are bringing down their potential value in the UFC 1378 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:57,360 Speaker 1: by doing this? 1379 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,560 Speaker 3: Are you saying I'm saying if there is, I'm saying, 1380 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 3: if their purses let's say, just doubled overnight in in UFC, 1381 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,920 Speaker 3: would they still do this? Maybe because it might be 1382 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 3: lucrative for some. I don't know, but I do wonder. 1383 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: Luke, since I don't go to that website or or 1384 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, pay for this is the expectation that you're 1385 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: getting nudity if you're a fan and you're doing I've asked. 1386 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 3: I've asked about this. My understanding. I don't think you 1387 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 3: get straight up porn. I don't think you get that. 1388 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 3: I think you get an equivalent. I think you get 1389 01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,880 Speaker 3: the equivalent of anywhere between Maxim Magazine and Hustler. 1390 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: Like I think it's more single than double penetration there, 1391 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Bob. 1392 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, I don't. I don't. I don't describe 1393 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 3: pornography like I'm on a trucker's CB radio telling him 1394 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,439 Speaker 3: ten to four at the end of the message. But uh, yes, 1395 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,800 Speaker 3: My understanding is it's anywhere between like f HM and Hustler. 1396 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, somewhere in there, somewhere in there, Luke. 1397 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, But you know what only the fans know, BC. 1398 01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:01,040 Speaker 1: No, here we started MKO. Only fans where we tell 1399 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 1: where we speak like we normally would speak. And I 1400 01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,040 Speaker 1: don't mean I know, ohs BC, that's when we do 1401 01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: the real racist joke. Stop that shit already. Right, No, 1402 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 1: that's when we uh, that's when we talk about Instagram profiles, right, Luke. 1403 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,880 Speaker 3: Yes, things that would absolutely get us fired. All right, 1404 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 3: let's go to Shark Attack three sixteen. This fool dms 1405 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 3: me all the time. Who is going to the super Bowl? 1406 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 3: We see, I tell you who is COVID? 1407 01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,600 Speaker 4: COVID gonna bring that ask to the super Bowl. 1408 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 1: I know that COVID's gonna be the Super Bowl LV MVP. 1409 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 3: All right, gonna be. He's gonna be in the he's 1410 01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 3: gonna be in the DJ booth, He's gonna be on 1411 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 3: the fucking field. All right. 1412 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,680 Speaker 1: Well, this is gonna be a painful conversation to any 1413 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: real football fans, Luke, because I really haven't watched this year. 1414 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I did watch a little bit of the playoffs. This 1415 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,480 Speaker 1: this I didn't want. I mean, look, I'm not gonna 1416 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: follow the Bills in Brown's train of all these lovable 1417 01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,640 Speaker 1: losers that are eventually Yeah, I get it, enjoy the moment, 1418 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,240 Speaker 1: but uh, you know my situation. I don't really have 1419 01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: a team. I guess it was okay, see and Brady 1420 01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,560 Speaker 1: do that they're not going to the super Bowl though, 1421 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 1: Luke Washington team's done. I mean, who the hell is 1422 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 1: gonna end up in the damn super Bowl? 1423 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 4: Luke telln I gotta say. 1424 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,400 Speaker 3: Here's who look good over the weekend. Baltimore looked good 1425 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 3: over the weekend. Chiefs obviously played the Browns. They're gonna 1426 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 3: look fucking great. Saints Buccaneers is gonna be interesting. Uh, Chiefs, Packers, 1427 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,439 Speaker 3: Packers looked really good. They look really good. 1428 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,880 Speaker 1: So you're telling me the Chiefs Ravens AFC Championship game 1429 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 1: that is imminent will be that. That's that's the super Bowl. 1430 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 1: That's the damn game right there. 1431 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 4: Probably the winner of that. I suspect we'll win, but 1432 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 4: we'll see. 1433 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,640 Speaker 3: The Packers looked really good in their last game, so 1434 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,720 Speaker 3: they have to play the Rams on Saturday. We'll see 1435 01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 3: how that goes. 1436 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 1: Look what year, what year and team were you the 1437 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 1: Were you the biggest fan of in NFL history? Jesus like, 1438 01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 1: like ninety one Redskins? Is that where we're going with? 1439 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably ninety one Redskins. When the Hogs were in there, 1440 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,000 Speaker 3: you know, doing their thing, I was I was. I 1441 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,720 Speaker 3: was an art monk, dead ender, you know, back when 1442 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,720 Speaker 3: he was doing his thing over on RFK Stadium. They 1443 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:01,040 Speaker 3: used to live on East Capital, so he'd walk outside 1444 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 3: and it's literally down the street. And so that was 1445 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,720 Speaker 3: before the Metro was down there, and so people would 1446 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 3: just walk past and chuck fucking beer cans in your yard. 1447 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 3: It was a great time. But you know, they were 1448 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 3: a winning franchise back then, I'll just put it that way. 1449 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 3: Also also, you know, but as an adult, you know, 1450 01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,440 Speaker 3: the twenty twelve Skins with RG three before you know, 1451 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:25,720 Speaker 3: his leg turned into pre Cooks spaghetti. That was. 1452 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 4: That was a fun time. He ceased at the City 1453 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 4: of Blaze. 1454 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, ninety one Redskins. Great team, you know, I remember 1455 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:33,560 Speaker 1: they beat the line. I mean they had an easy 1456 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 1: playoff run the damn Falcons, the Lions. 1457 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, Luke, you know, yeah, but you know, 1458 01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,880 Speaker 3: come on, Mark Rippian, the hogs suck a dick. All right, 1459 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:47,320 Speaker 3: let's go lastly to Piper Dog Best Dog. I just 1460 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,120 Speaker 3: found out my wife and I were expecting, So I've 1461 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 3: been putting together a pre baby bucket list for lack 1462 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,280 Speaker 3: of a better term. 1463 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 4: Do you guys have anything like that? And what was 1464 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 4: on it? 1465 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, find out who the father first, secure who the 1466 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,760 Speaker 1: father actually is, let's just get that thing safe and secure. Luke, 1467 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,640 Speaker 1: let's not let that be a question, right. 1468 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 3: Is he talking about like things I would have done? 1469 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, kid gadgets? I mean you know that was twelve No. 1470 01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,919 Speaker 3: No, no, no, I've been putting together a pre baby bucket list, 1471 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,520 Speaker 3: meaning before we have kids. I want to do these 1472 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 3: things in my life. 1473 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 1: Oh well, I can't tell what was he asking? Was 1474 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,080 Speaker 1: he asking what activities I should do and get out 1475 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:28,560 Speaker 1: of my system? Or was he asking what helpful? How 1476 01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,000 Speaker 1: what brand of diaper pale did you buy? Is that 1477 01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:31,560 Speaker 1: what he's asking? 1478 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,040 Speaker 3: No, no, no, he's asking, like, I've got nine months 1479 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 3: to get, you know, freedom out of my system. What 1480 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 3: do I do? Firstly? Sleep? 1481 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: Sleep the Oh god, I say that to anybody who 1482 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,560 Speaker 1: is like engaged but not living with their future wife, 1483 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: Like sleep every day all day, So just keep sleeping, 1484 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:52,000 Speaker 1: Just get as much. 1485 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:54,439 Speaker 4: Because that's not going to happen once the kid gets here. 1486 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what else? 1487 01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 3: What else would you do? 1488 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 1: Jump out of a plane? Probably have you ever done that, Luke? 1489 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 3: No, out of a plane. I want to fast roped 1490 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,200 Speaker 3: out of a helicopter. That was fun, but that's not 1491 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 3: the same thing. 1492 01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 1: Probably a weekend at Bangkok is probably good thing to 1493 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: get to, just get it out of your system. 1494 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 3: Right. You wouldn't believe what they cleaned with their mouths. Uh, 1495 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm not really I don't. I don't. 1496 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 4: I don't ever live like that. 1497 01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 3: I didn't, I don't know. Like to me, it's travel, 1498 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,599 Speaker 3: you know, take a trip if you can. But now 1499 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 3: now that your wife's pregnant, she might just be sick 1500 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 3: the whole time. Like we went on vacation. I find 1501 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,519 Speaker 3: out my wife was pregnant like a week a week 1502 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,360 Speaker 3: before we flew to Spain, Beirut and Greece, and so 1503 01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,680 Speaker 3: she was sick the entire time. We like, you know, 1504 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 3: we could do some stuff, but you know she was 1505 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:55,720 Speaker 3: struggling a bit. 1506 01:08:55,840 --> 01:09:00,720 Speaker 1: And uh, you were vacationing in Doha. It's not like it's, 1507 01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:01,599 Speaker 1: you know, Paradise. 1508 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,880 Speaker 3: I was vacationing in Athens, Barcelona and Lebanon's where I 1509 01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 3: was going, buddy, not quite the same thing. 1510 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 1: If we if we did an MK pilgrimage to Doha, 1511 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:12,639 Speaker 1: would you be able to show us your old house 1512 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,560 Speaker 1: and it would be like Luke going back to Tattooine 1513 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,799 Speaker 1: in a way, right, you know, like this is this desert. 1514 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,600 Speaker 3: I like, how your understanding of Doha is based a 1515 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 3: in Star Wars and be a totally primitive understanding of 1516 01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,000 Speaker 3: what is actually happening. Two you know goddamn well, or 1517 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 3: be whatever it is you know, goddamn well. I couldn't 1518 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 3: show you around, don't know fuck all about it? And 1519 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 3: three fuck you? How about that? 1520 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: That's not like I was like, let's go to India, Luke. 1521 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, you know, man with a deep backstory. 1522 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 1: All right, Luke, embrace it? 1523 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 3: Okay he I could barely show you around Marietta, Georgia 1524 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 3: at this point, much less. 1525 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: Do you have Indian citizenship? 1526 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,200 Speaker 3: No? I did not. 1527 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,320 Speaker 1: But don't you have birthrights? You were born there? 1528 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 3: I was born, not on Indian soil. Right Where were 1529 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,639 Speaker 3: you born? You're born in the US Embassy BC. Where 1530 01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:00,719 Speaker 3: do you think I think I was born? 1531 01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 1: Look, I don't pretend to know your history. I don't 1532 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: even pretend to know you for most of the most 1533 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:06,680 Speaker 1: of this year. 1534 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:08,639 Speaker 3: You also pretend not to know facts about the world. 1535 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,560 Speaker 3: It's American territory. 1536 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 1: Okay, so because it so, Look, I didn't know that 1537 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,599 Speaker 1: if it was if it happens on the embassy, which 1538 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,679 Speaker 1: I know is like fake America. It's not American territory. 1539 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:16,920 Speaker 3: Luke. 1540 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,040 Speaker 1: Okay, good god. That so you're not that doesn't count, 1541 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:21,639 Speaker 1: is what you're saying. That does not count. 1542 01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,879 Speaker 3: It does count account. It doesn't count towards Indian citizenship, 1543 01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 3: but it counts towards American The more you know, Luke, right, 1544 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,040 Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, these are things you should have learned 1545 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:32,599 Speaker 3: in high school. 1546 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,200 Speaker 1: Okay, teach me that at Naugatuk Valley Community Technical College. 1547 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:37,759 Speaker 1: They did not teach me that there. 1548 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,520 Speaker 4: Were you majored in bedpan technology. 1549 01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: Uh okay, I got an as in general studies. 1550 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,000 Speaker 4: I might add we had a we had a teacher 1551 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:47,639 Speaker 4: in high school. 1552 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 3: His name was doctor Siegel, and doctor Siegel used to 1553 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 3: insult everyone who did poorly in his calculus class and 1554 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 3: statistics by saying that they were going to fail out 1555 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,559 Speaker 3: of life and then go to like, you know, podunk 1556 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 3: you and in bedpan technology. So shouts to doctor Siegel, 1557 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,719 Speaker 3: who was the world's biggest hater. Okay, with that in mind, BC, 1558 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 3: speaking of bedpans, piss and ship, it's time for your segment. 1559 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna bring on Jay in 1560 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,599 Speaker 1: a minute. But hey, I got some goodies for you. 1561 01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 1: We scoured the globe. We uh we we scoured the 1562 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 1: corner of the bedpan, Luke for uh, for all things, 1563 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:23,840 Speaker 1: what is what is Trump doing on there? 1564 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 2: For? 1565 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,200 Speaker 1: Uh? It's called have you seen this ship? Trump? Not 1566 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: on this not on this version though. Jee there we go, Hey, Luke, 1567 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 1: we actually did have fights over the weekend. Shout out 1568 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 1: to Tim Boseo's Twitter account. In Poland. We had a 1569 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 1: heavyweight bout as Lucas Rozansky, Luke. You know, he really did. 1570 01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 1: He scored eight knockdowns in four minutes of action, Luke, 1571 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,200 Speaker 1: against some guy who probably drove the eighteen wheeler complete 1572 01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,040 Speaker 1: with the ring in the back home afterwards, Luke. 1573 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 3: Dude, this had this. This was the guy who was 1574 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 3: setting up the lighting. 1575 01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think he's got sneakers on if you look 1576 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,839 Speaker 1: close enough. His name is oz Can sent in Kaya 1577 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 1: of Turkey. But uh, he got knocked down eight times 1578 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,800 Speaker 1: before the referee stopped it early in the second round. 1579 01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 1: Eight times, Luke, Good god? 1580 01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,320 Speaker 4: This Well, the good news say is he's definitely in shape, 1581 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 4: so that's okay. 1582 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,280 Speaker 1: Is that a golden palace tattoo on the back of 1583 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,680 Speaker 1: that Polish fellow's back. Wow, all right, Luke, already off 1584 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,840 Speaker 1: to a ridiculous start. Might as well bring in the 1585 01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,560 Speaker 1: clown pubes. Right, you think I'm kidding, Luke, here's a 1586 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 1: nice party gift for your daughter's birthday party, right, real 1587 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:27,920 Speaker 1: clown pubes. 1588 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:33,680 Speaker 3: Luke, how do you What are you supposed to do 1589 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 3: with those? 1590 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but if they're all out there, hogy 1591 01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,600 Speaker 1: farts will find them on Instagram, So shout out to 1592 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 1: the fine folks. 1593 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 3: Were supposed to go to someone's house and like peel 1594 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,719 Speaker 3: on the seat and then throw these on top. 1595 01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, clowns are gross people underneath it all, Luke. I mean, 1596 01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,800 Speaker 1: why else would they be hiding behind that paint? Luke, 1597 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: let's go down to some passenger shaming here. Uh, I'm 1598 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,160 Speaker 1: sure you can get these people ready for the gallows. 1599 01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 1: Look like this guy. 1600 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 3: Just throw him off the fucking plane. Now look at 1601 01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:09,479 Speaker 3: this fucking orangutang Are you shitting me? Oh sir, here's 1602 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 3: our in flight meal. It's a fucking banana, you fucking primate. 1603 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,960 Speaker 3: Fuck you, fuck you guy. 1604 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,479 Speaker 4: Hope you got COVID, you piece of shit. 1605 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Wow? Wow, Actually, Lucy was the guy who sat in 1606 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: the seat after him that obviously got COVID. All right, Luke, 1607 01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 1: that wasn't the best use of toes this week, though. 1608 01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: Check out this transaction. I thought it was pro Gonzales 1609 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 1: at first, Luke, it's not. But uh, this is very creative. 1610 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:35,800 Speaker 1: Is this what you look for in a woman? Luke? 1611 01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:38,799 Speaker 4: Well, she is not unattractive. 1612 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:48,599 Speaker 1: All right? Yeah? That is uh that's a John Claude 1613 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:49,679 Speaker 1: van dam shit right there. 1614 01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:50,400 Speaker 3: Right man. 1615 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,080 Speaker 4: This is like, this is like my apex predator right here. 1616 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,320 Speaker 1: This is like dohat porn right here. This is great all. 1617 01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:01,879 Speaker 4: Right, Luke, Yeah, you have found my wheelhouse. Okay, yes, 1618 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:02,559 Speaker 4: I have. 1619 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,240 Speaker 1: Hey, let's bring on some drunk chicks. I got an 1620 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:14,680 Speaker 1: epic fail here, Luke went to the bar and it 1621 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 1: was open mic night. Karen stepped up on top of 1622 01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: the bar. It was coyote ugly indeed, Luke, And look 1623 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,040 Speaker 1: at this air drumming. What else we got from this? 1624 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:24,920 Speaker 3: No, she's air fist pumping. 1625 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh that's only the second best fall of 1626 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 1: the week. 1627 01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:37,599 Speaker 3: Is she doing like a Michael Jackson thing? 1628 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Because she's like I think, yeah, it doesn't matter if 1629 01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,680 Speaker 1: you're black or white. She thinks you're she thinks you're 1630 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 1: a piece of crappy either way, Luke, and she did 1631 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 1: storm the capitol, thank you very much. All right, Luke, 1632 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,880 Speaker 1: let's see the real best fall of the week. Check 1633 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,919 Speaker 1: out this dude. H sir, Please don't go chasing waterfalls anymore. 1634 01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 1: Please stick to the rivers in the lakes that you're 1635 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:56,760 Speaker 1: used to. 1636 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 3: Good. 1637 01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: No, she can't get your. 1638 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,800 Speaker 3: Is he hammered? What happened here? He must be his. 1639 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 1: Footing wasn't good on those stairs, Luke, and then the 1640 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,599 Speaker 1: wind took him down. Uh, you know, it's a price 1641 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,920 Speaker 1: you pay for a badass selfie these days, Luke, it 1642 01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 1: really is. They're actually I actually do have a good 1643 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 1: headkick for you. Let's go over to one championship. Check 1644 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:20,200 Speaker 1: out this headkick. But watch the fall. Oh god, it's like, yeah, 1645 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 1: there's the coffin. Just go right in. Save the guy out. Yeah, 1646 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 1: we don't need to lift the body. 1647 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 3: Why is this guy beating up on another guy from 1648 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 3: the Lollipop Guild. Look at how short this dude is 1649 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:31,720 Speaker 3: on the left. 1650 01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,559 Speaker 1: Dime store Tyson Griffin over there. Yeah, that is just wow. 1651 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,839 Speaker 1: All right, Luke, Uh, Luke, Luckily we do have talented 1652 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 1: people on this earth. Let's check out this big fella, 1653 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 1: he's figured out his one skill in life. 1654 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 4: It's definitely not haircuts, Luke. 1655 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,360 Speaker 1: There really are wizards out there who have bowling tricks 1656 01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,200 Speaker 1: that will blow your mind. This guy's in. I mean, 1657 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,240 Speaker 1: how do you juggle that big ass ball? And then 1658 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,520 Speaker 1: you yeah? 1659 01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, fat guy, no mask doing thing? 1660 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 3: All right. 1661 01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,120 Speaker 1: He didn't choose bowling, Luke, Bowling chose him. 1662 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 3: Hey you ever see a Russian wedding before Luke bow 1663 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:09,639 Speaker 3: How God, don't switch yet? 1664 01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 4: How good of a bowler are you? 1665 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,480 Speaker 3: Like? What's your high score? 1666 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,760 Speaker 1: Maybe like one ninety eight? Not so good you? 1667 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,240 Speaker 4: I'm about about my best ever is two hundred or so, 1668 01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:20,000 Speaker 4: like right around there. 1669 01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 1: That now, okay, that would be a fun thing to 1670 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,679 Speaker 1: do over some beers, Luke, Okay, some bowling. 1671 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. 1672 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 4: Let's get we should only do it hammered, hammered. 1673 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,360 Speaker 1: While the microphones are turned on. We'll do a live 1674 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:31,479 Speaker 1: podcast each of us. 1675 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 4: You know. 1676 01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:33,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I gotta I got it down already. 1677 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,519 Speaker 1: Deal all right, Luke, this brings new meaning to a 1678 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:42,720 Speaker 1: shotgun wedding. Here, Luke, Damn, this ceremony is so good. 1679 01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,000 Speaker 1: I gotta shoot some shit. 1680 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 3: Up, Luke. 1681 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 1: Uh wow, I mean it might be looking, but this 1682 01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: might be Spider Man. Meantime, your first date was at 1683 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,439 Speaker 1: the shooting range to or Falls. 1684 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I wouldn't call this firearms safety at its finest. 1685 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 1: You're telling me Abuela didn't just get get get an 1686 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,200 Speaker 1: a k during the reception, and just no, it didn't 1687 01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:11,080 Speaker 1: didn't happen, all right, no, no, all right. Scorpion King 1688 01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,679 Speaker 1: auditions continued this week. Luke, you sent me this fantastic video. 1689 01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:20,640 Speaker 3: I had the time of my life and now my 1690 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:27,000 Speaker 3: spine is fucking broken in two parts. I'm in a wheelchair. 1691 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 1: Nobody paralyzes baby in the corner, Luke, except for this guy. 1692 01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:34,759 Speaker 1: This is great stuff, right man? Wow? 1693 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,599 Speaker 4: Does this mean I don't have to marry you now? 1694 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 3: Bitch? 1695 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not the only Karen k Oh of the week, Luke, 1696 01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:43,439 Speaker 1: This lady, this is. 1697 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,559 Speaker 4: This is why a shocker. 1698 01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:46,040 Speaker 3: They're white. 1699 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,479 Speaker 4: But b this is why as a man you should 1700 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 4: lift weights. 1701 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:54,840 Speaker 3: You can tell you know, fucking uh what Tucker underneath 1702 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 3: here not been in a weight room anytime recently? 1703 01:17:57,960 --> 01:17:59,759 Speaker 1: Oh? Oh wow? 1704 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 4: She is she dead? 1705 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,439 Speaker 1: Is she she's she's not walking again? I'll tell you 1706 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 1: that much. I like to see you in the homeless 1707 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,120 Speaker 1: guy practice this look in your front yard, just to 1708 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:10,920 Speaker 1: really get the technique down. 1709 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:15,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, front raises homeless style. 1710 01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,760 Speaker 1: It is that man's dream. Can you just let him 1711 01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 1: cash in that ticket one time? 1712 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,760 Speaker 3: By the way, I haven't seen that dude. Haven't seen 1713 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 3: that dude in weeks at this point. 1714 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's busy putting poop on the Capitol wall. Luke. Okay, 1715 01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:28,920 Speaker 1: thank you very much, sir. All right, let's go over 1716 01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 1: to Karen here on the boat. Luke, this is so incredible. Ko. 1717 01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,519 Speaker 1: Here's what happens when you have too many white claws 1718 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:35,080 Speaker 1: during the day. 1719 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:39,840 Speaker 3: Luke. Wow, just like that is what happens when you 1720 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:41,920 Speaker 3: lose like a fish out of the cooler at the 1721 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 3: end of the trip. Look at this one two bob, 1722 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 3: and then you think it's did she She's gonna drown? 1723 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not getting They're getting all right. And look, 1724 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,360 Speaker 1: have you ever been inside a Canadian man cave. They're 1725 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,720 Speaker 1: making huge advancements North shout out to these people. Check 1726 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 1: this out. You would love this. 1727 01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,000 Speaker 3: Right, man. That's how cold my room is at night 1728 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:11,280 Speaker 3: when I sleep. I keep it chilly. 1729 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: No women allowed in this cave rightfully, So it's. 1730 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 3: Less no women allowed versus you know you're not going 1731 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,639 Speaker 3: to convince a normal woman to get in this thing. 1732 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:26,839 Speaker 3: But yeah, define six, one, half a dozen the other, Luke, check. 1733 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 1: Out this great feet of of of boldness another thing 1734 01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 1: Daniel White won't do? 1735 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:35,919 Speaker 3: What man, I'm still wondering. And look at the splash 1736 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,960 Speaker 3: of the lack of it on that one. That is incredible. 1737 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,880 Speaker 3: How high is too high? There must be a mathematical 1738 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:41,600 Speaker 3: equation for this? 1739 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 4: How high? 1740 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,360 Speaker 1: Can I put that equation to the test by filling 1741 01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,679 Speaker 1: up a tub with water? Luke? And I've tried that before. 1742 01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: You know, how high can we get here? Yeah? You 1743 01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,719 Speaker 1: can get too high? Luke, this is too high? 1744 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 4: No, I'm saying, before you die from the jump. 1745 01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,439 Speaker 1: Well, I think it still depends on if you can 1746 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,599 Speaker 1: enter as seamless as possible with toes or hands pointed 1747 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 1: in right. 1748 01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 3: There's gotta be a point though, at like which the 1749 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 3: human skin can no longer take it or something. 1750 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, or you just got a vicious concussion whiplash death, 1751 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, upon entry. Yeah, i'd like to see that happen, Luke. 1752 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:20,679 Speaker 1: All right, Hey, you gotta be careful I know everybody 1753 01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 1: wants to be an ex game superhero and do backflips 1754 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 1: off of cliffs, but not everybody should be on the 1755 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 1: rope swing near the creek. Luke, this guy takes a 1756 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 1: very very regrettable l hair. Uh this guy, Yeah, can 1757 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:38,480 Speaker 1: we get him a bell? Oh my god, God God. 1758 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 3: Hey bro, we're gonna go play this game where you 1759 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:48,680 Speaker 3: actually just bounce off of rocks. Oh, the fatter you 1760 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,599 Speaker 3: are the better. First of all, pull your pants up. 1761 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:51,840 Speaker 3: Sound like I'm my dad. 1762 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:57,680 Speaker 1: But seriously, oh god, he may have they may he 1763 01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,680 Speaker 1: may live. I think he left. He may have lived 1764 01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 1: from that. 1765 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 3: Jay noticing that this gentleman is actually not white. This 1766 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,240 Speaker 3: is a rare example. But you know what, I guarantee 1767 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,080 Speaker 3: he was talked into this by his white friends. Guaranteed, 1768 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,040 Speaker 3: one hundred percent fact. 1769 01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,960 Speaker 1: Somewhere Karen is laughing. She's having a big cackle like the. 1770 01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 4: Guy holding the camera. Guaranteed he's white. 1771 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 1: No big MMA this weekend, so let's celebrate some spinny 1772 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,800 Speaker 1: shit gone right of the past year. Check this one 1773 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,880 Speaker 1: out from Aca MMA. The man's name is Roman Osdaal 1774 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:33,559 Speaker 1: who God, jeez, he picks he chose that elbow from hell? 1775 01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:38,439 Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, little little back action, little spinning back elbow. 1776 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,479 Speaker 3: Yikes, that's nice. That's a nice one. 1777 01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,240 Speaker 1: Can you do that in a bar fight? Luke? Can 1778 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:47,719 Speaker 1: you can you bring that into uh? 1779 01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:48,759 Speaker 4: I think it's possible. 1780 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:52,680 Speaker 1: Well if asked that, Jeff Goldblum look like guy, if 1781 01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 1: you could pull that off on the street. Here's your 1782 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,680 Speaker 1: dessert of the week. I never even thought of this 1783 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,320 Speaker 1: till Holgi Fart's picked up on it. Would you eat 1784 01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 1: this big being popsicle? 1785 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 3: Luke? 1786 01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:03,160 Speaker 4: Fuck? 1787 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 2: No? 1788 01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 3: What am I. 1789 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:06,599 Speaker 4: A raccoon? 1790 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 3: Are you out of your goddamn mind? Is this the 1791 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,360 Speaker 3: new treat that Arby's is selling you? You fucking animal? 1792 01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,360 Speaker 1: I would try it once, just like the McDonald's hot dog, 1793 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 1: which I think I had it like two thousand and three. 1794 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 1: It was the grossest thing ever ever. Oh my god, 1795 01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,800 Speaker 1: it was so thick, it was this disgusting. I would 1796 01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 1: try this once. 1797 01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,559 Speaker 4: Definitely Arby's get diarrhea for cheap. 1798 01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:30,960 Speaker 1: Luke. Have you have you been smart enough on a 1799 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,559 Speaker 1: hot dog to put the baked bean down, baked beans 1800 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:36,000 Speaker 1: down top of it, and then the layer of ketchup 1801 01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 1: over that? Have you ever done that? 1802 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,040 Speaker 3: You are? Do you need help? You need? 1803 01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,080 Speaker 1: You've never done that, Luke. 1804 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,680 Speaker 3: You've ever taken a hot dog, defecated on it then 1805 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:47,840 Speaker 3: urinated on it? 1806 01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:55,280 Speaker 4: That? No? No, I've never done Heinu's ship. 1807 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,120 Speaker 1: No, you never like line the inside of a hot 1808 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 1: dog bun with American cheese, then put the baked beans down, 1809 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,439 Speaker 1: then put the hot dog on top, and then the 1810 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:04,120 Speaker 1: ketchup on top. 1811 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,280 Speaker 3: If you do it that way, baked beans are for 1812 01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:10,280 Speaker 3: basic bitches. There's way better beans to eat than this 1813 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:14,880 Speaker 3: kind of fucking dnty more bullshit from chef Boyard fuck face, 1814 01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:24,320 Speaker 3: no chance, no chance, no chance, this is prison buh. 1815 01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,640 Speaker 1: We'll close with this family photo of the week. I 1816 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,240 Speaker 1: went down to the Marietta, Georgia Public Records Office and 1817 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 1: found this from your youth, Luke. Your parents are? They 1818 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 1: were looking They were looking good, Luke, not a bad 1819 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,559 Speaker 1: look back in back in eighty four, Luke, look at that? 1820 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? What's that? 1821 01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:40,880 Speaker 2: Parents? 1822 01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:41,120 Speaker 3: Name? 1823 01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,720 Speaker 4: This guy on the left, all right? 1824 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:45,559 Speaker 3: His left? 1825 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 4: But all right, I mean you can't. You can't parody this, 1826 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 4: You can't. 1827 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:55,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a living, breathing self parody. In fact, 1828 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,599 Speaker 1: there's a parrot, Luke, I mean, what is going on here? 1829 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,519 Speaker 3: Bro? That parrot features prominently in this thing. I mean, wow, bro, 1830 01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:03,360 Speaker 3: and they got that last with the shades on, and 1831 01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:04,919 Speaker 3: she's got the k bar with the bayonet. 1832 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 1: Oh man, that track jacket is fantastic. 1833 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,120 Speaker 3: She also has it on upside down too. It's just 1834 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:10,960 Speaker 3: kind of interesting. 1835 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,360 Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, you think this guy loves them some 1836 01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 1: Alabama some uh some uh Conway Twitty. 1837 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,679 Speaker 3: This guy has definitely had a hooker in his bed 1838 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,639 Speaker 3: with pro wrestling on on the TV. 1839 01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 1: What was the wife and that firearm present during this transaction? 1840 01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:29,840 Speaker 4: Dudek parrot? Do you know the parrot was. 1841 01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,360 Speaker 3: I don't know about the bayonet, but the parrot was 1842 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:34,520 Speaker 3: knows where the humanity. 1843 01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 1: That's the thing. You gotta be careful that you want 1844 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:38,320 Speaker 1: to go before the parrot does. 1845 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,839 Speaker 3: This dude has definitely this dude has definitely had ARB's 1846 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 3: wrappers on the floor, a prostitute in his bed while 1847 01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,120 Speaker 3: w c W Nitro was on his fucking TV. 1848 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,720 Speaker 4: Guaranteed Locke, I would. 1849 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,639 Speaker 1: Argue Dana White in the nineties probably had the same 1850 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 1: thing going on, Luke. 1851 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,400 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe that's a hell of a picture. 1852 01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:57,599 Speaker 3: Man. 1853 01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,559 Speaker 1: Thank you to Hogy Farts for dominating to have you 1854 01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,959 Speaker 1: seen the show. That's all the shit I got, except 1855 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,679 Speaker 1: for Luke a big moment in this show. We did 1856 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:09,040 Speaker 1: screw the proach a little full disclosure. I thought Jay 1857 01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,760 Speaker 1: was gonna be on last week's episode when we did 1858 01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:16,280 Speaker 1: unveil the MTV video Lift Sync Challenge game. I don't 1859 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,160 Speaker 1: know what it's called. Does it really matter in hindsight, Luke, 1860 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 1: we brought on this video of producer Jay Aaron a 1861 01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:26,880 Speaker 1: by the way, a world renowned documentarian, a professionals professional 1862 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:31,839 Speaker 1: keep going, but this was his younger prime Rutgers Hoos 1863 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,920 Speaker 1: chasing days. Luke and you eviscerated this man based on 1864 01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:40,000 Speaker 1: the indefensible quality of this here video. Do you want 1865 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,240 Speaker 1: to say anything before we give the Florida Jay to 1866 01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,679 Speaker 1: attempt at any length to save his soul here? 1867 01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,080 Speaker 3: No, I think I think at this point what we 1868 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,240 Speaker 3: needed to be, what we needed to say, has been uttered. 1869 01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,920 Speaker 3: Now we need to hear from Jay and his oversized 1870 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,559 Speaker 3: pants why he would do this in front of DJ 1871 01:25:58,680 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 3: Scribble Jay. 1872 01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 2: Those pants were not oversized, first of all. Second of all, 1873 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 2: I was still a minor when this when this was filmed. 1874 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,280 Speaker 2: Contrary to the release form that I filled out and 1875 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 2: changed my birthday on however, uh, this is this is 1876 01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,720 Speaker 2: living your best life. I mean, just me and Scribble 1877 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 2: and the beautiful Kim Smith. Jay. 1878 01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:23,040 Speaker 1: A lot of talk in the YouTube comments sections about 1879 01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,439 Speaker 1: what happened between you and the other fellow in the 1880 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,960 Speaker 1: red shirt as soon as this show went on, you. 1881 01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,040 Speaker 3: Got did you guys bang? Did you guys bang? 1882 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,719 Speaker 2: Funny story? You should mention that because I tried tagging 1883 01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 2: him in that video. 1884 01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:39,280 Speaker 1: Oh I'm him, but I. 1885 01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:39,200 Speaker 4: But I. 1886 01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,320 Speaker 2: Probably could have chosen a better So what happened? 1887 01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 3: You don't have to give his name away? But like, 1888 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,719 Speaker 3: what is he doing with his life now? Aside from undergo? 1889 01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:52,599 Speaker 2: It was in the clip. 1890 01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,840 Speaker 1: No, I haven't. 1891 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,840 Speaker 2: I probably haven't talked to him since this. 1892 01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,719 Speaker 1: We weren't. We weren't like him had a bath house? 1893 01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 3: Jay? Is this? 1894 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:01,800 Speaker 1: Where is this? How this stuff starts? 1895 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,519 Speaker 2: No, in all seriousness, we were from the same town 1896 01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:06,599 Speaker 2: and we went to the same elementary school, and then 1897 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,160 Speaker 2: we worked at a summer camp together this summer that 1898 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,320 Speaker 2: this happened, and then we saw the audition, We're like, hey, 1899 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 2: you like to dance, I like to sing. Let's you know, 1900 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 2: let's make this happen. So I really haven't talked to him. 1901 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,600 Speaker 2: Much since then, and I looked him up. And do 1902 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,800 Speaker 2: you find when you look up like old friends from 1903 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 2: your youth, that when you type their name in, the 1904 01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,519 Speaker 2: first thing you get is like seven different legal things 1905 01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,200 Speaker 2: like this one's in jail, that one's in jail, all 1906 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:30,439 Speaker 2: people with the same name. Maybe it's him, I'm not sure, 1907 01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:32,920 Speaker 2: but that was the best I could do to find 1908 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,320 Speaker 2: him with somebody who got indicted and sent to prison. 1909 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,719 Speaker 3: I don't even know, Jay hold On, I don't even 1910 01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:40,880 Speaker 3: understand the premise of the show because you both can't 1911 01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,000 Speaker 3: this is the number one show. 1912 01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,680 Speaker 2: Can't sing, Oh no, I could definitely sing this is 1913 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 2: the number one. This is the This is the number 1914 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:51,200 Speaker 2: one show on MTV At the time, it was called 1915 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,160 Speaker 2: Say What Karaoke? It was in primetime. The idea was 1916 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 2: it was, you know, MTV's overblown karaoke. 1917 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:56,800 Speaker 3: That's it. 1918 01:27:56,840 --> 01:27:57,800 Speaker 2: That's all it was. 1919 01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,679 Speaker 1: Was there a hope or an expectation on you that 1920 01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:04,080 Speaker 1: this like was this before No Escape or not? Like, 1921 01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 1: where was this in the time? 1922 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,840 Speaker 2: This was in the No Escape era? This was right 1923 01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,639 Speaker 2: in the same year, so this was the year two thousand. 1924 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,160 Speaker 2: This was over twenty years ago, which is a little scary, 1925 01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,479 Speaker 2: but yeah. No, escape was within months of this airing, 1926 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,559 Speaker 2: within months, and then the rock band came later. 1927 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,200 Speaker 1: When you never know, Luke, some executive could have been 1928 01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,519 Speaker 1: watching this and say, man, who's this? This? 1929 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,360 Speaker 2: This? That was kind of the point there. Yeah, that 1930 01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:27,439 Speaker 2: was what we were looking for. 1931 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:27,680 Speaker 3: You know. 1932 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,639 Speaker 2: The judge in the middle, who's somewhere in this clip 1933 01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:34,080 Speaker 2: is smiling adoringly at me. She she was the model 1934 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,400 Speaker 2: in the It's Gonna Be Me video four and sync 1935 01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:37,080 Speaker 2: same person. 1936 01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:37,960 Speaker 1: Who is that? 1937 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 3: Is that? 1938 01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 2: Christina Millie Kim Smith? You can google her. 1939 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:42,080 Speaker 3: She's gorgeous. 1940 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 2: We won this show, by the way, we did win. 1941 01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 1: But what did you wine? 1942 01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:49,280 Speaker 2: So, in typical MTV fashion, nothing, You don't win anything. 1943 01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:53,120 Speaker 1: You surely don't regain your soul back upon leaving the billing. 1944 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,599 Speaker 2: No, I do come with a challenge though. About six 1945 01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,080 Speaker 2: months after this aired, there was another show on MTV 1946 01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,799 Speaker 2: called VJ and I. I was featured on that program 1947 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:08,960 Speaker 2: as well, where they shaved my head on TV to 1948 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 2: look like Justin Timberlake because it was the first time 1949 01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,080 Speaker 2: that he had shaved his head. And that show features 1950 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,639 Speaker 2: some clips that are far more embarrassing. Brian Campbell, you 1951 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,160 Speaker 2: with your super salutibility. If you could track down that episode, 1952 01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,080 Speaker 2: it would be the greatest fine that you ever made. 1953 01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,280 Speaker 4: I'm already this conversation. 1954 01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have it, but I'm telling you, if 1955 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 2: you think this is bad, wait till you find my 1956 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,640 Speaker 2: episode of VJ for a day. I don't have a 1957 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:37,320 Speaker 2: j I don't really Jay. 1958 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,280 Speaker 3: This is like Jay, this is like looking at a 1959 01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,200 Speaker 3: terrorist attack, and be like, if you think this is bad, 1960 01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,240 Speaker 3: I don't think it's bad. It's bad. 1961 01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:49,160 Speaker 1: Now Looke, do you add Look it takes I was 1962 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 1: so close here. It takes some mystic mac level belief 1963 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,639 Speaker 1: in yourself to put yourself through this and take your 1964 01:29:56,680 --> 01:29:59,840 Speaker 1: swing in front of America. Do you respect the commitment, 1965 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 1: the devotion, the balls on one note, No, that's that opposite. 1966 01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 3: Because I was a year twenty. I was what twenty 1967 01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,519 Speaker 3: or something, nineteen or twenty. So I was doing I'm 1968 01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:14,600 Speaker 3: not gonna say, you know this kind of thing, but 1969 01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:17,439 Speaker 3: I was doing tons of stupid shit. But I wasn't 1970 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,240 Speaker 3: you know, I wasn't putting it on camera. I was, 1971 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,400 Speaker 3: you know, doing it in secret so I could get 1972 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 3: it out of my system. So by the time I 1973 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:26,000 Speaker 3: was trying to do something interesting with my life. I 1974 01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 3: was a little bit more ready for it. Jay was like, 1975 01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,040 Speaker 3: fuck it rough drafts, just let's just fire it out 1976 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:30,600 Speaker 3: and publish it. 1977 01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you shouldn't. 1978 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,840 Speaker 2: Be surprised at all. This shouldn't surprise you in the least. 1979 01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:38,200 Speaker 2: But I thought this was totally normal. Yeah, completely totally 1980 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:38,639 Speaker 2: Did you. 1981 01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,719 Speaker 1: Think leaving the studio this day, Jay, that this would 1982 01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:45,559 Speaker 1: help you get to your dream of being the next 1983 01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:46,759 Speaker 1: land Space. 1984 01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,400 Speaker 2: I was shooting more for the top for mister Timberlake himself. 1985 01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,200 Speaker 2: But I shot this this summer before I started college, 1986 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,800 Speaker 2: and I did think and this was pre taped, so 1987 01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:58,720 Speaker 2: we shot it in August and it aired in like 1988 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,000 Speaker 2: late September or whatever. I did think this would help 1989 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:04,160 Speaker 2: me get late in college. It didn't really have that effect. 1990 01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,599 Speaker 4: No, Okay, I'm done with this, Thank you, Jay. 1991 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm leaving now. 1992 01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:10,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1993 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,160 Speaker 1: Luke just woke up from his one night stand. He's like, 1994 01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:17,200 Speaker 1: oh God, we gotta get your audie. Here's cab Fair, 1995 01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,439 Speaker 1: here's your Derek Jeter gift bag. You need to go. 1996 01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 1: I'm just not I'm not. 1997 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm done. I am done with this part of 1998 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,040 Speaker 3: the conversation. Okay, see Tom for odds and ends. What 1999 01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:26,519 Speaker 3: do you got? Uh? 2000 01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:26,720 Speaker 4: You know? 2001 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:31,280 Speaker 1: I I was touched by something the length the commitment, 2002 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 1: not of Jade to be so shamelessly in pursuit of fame, 2003 01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:39,599 Speaker 1: but to one Amanda Hebas's father. I believe his name 2004 01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:43,680 Speaker 1: is Marcelo, who we found out through Amanda's Instagram account 2005 01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:47,400 Speaker 1: put a tribute out there to his daughter what he 2006 01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,880 Speaker 1: feels was her greatest accomplishment, making her UFC debut a 2007 01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:52,760 Speaker 1: few years back. Right now, of course, she's got a 2008 01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,479 Speaker 1: fight coming up this week, this coming week, and she's 2009 01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:59,439 Speaker 1: obviously a potential big time contender at either strawweight where 2010 01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,519 Speaker 1: she wants to comp or maybe even flyway. But a 2011 01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,000 Speaker 1: couple of years back, she'd beat Emily Whitmeyer and her 2012 01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:07,280 Speaker 1: UFC debut, and it was such a breakthrough moment for 2013 01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 1: Amanda's fight journey. If you remember, she had been popped 2014 01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:11,920 Speaker 1: by Yusada, was supposed to be a two year ban, 2015 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,639 Speaker 1: ended up finding out it was just a tainted supplement, 2016 01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,640 Speaker 1: so she ended up getting back into the game. So 2017 01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 1: this debut meant a lot. Father was so proud, Luke 2018 01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,759 Speaker 1: he got a freaking killer badass tattoo on his left 2019 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:27,280 Speaker 1: forearm of her choking whitmyer out and then had the 2020 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,479 Speaker 1: belt added below as sort of something to shoot for. 2021 01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,400 Speaker 1: This is a it's a bold move. It's you know, 2022 01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,760 Speaker 1: not necessarily Kevin Lee, but it's a bold tattoo move 2023 01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,160 Speaker 1: to get this. But not only is the art quality 2024 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:45,360 Speaker 1: pretty damn awesome, Luke, Dude, I don't think that's a 2025 01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,519 Speaker 1: bad artie. I think that's her. 2026 01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:52,240 Speaker 3: Thing is is jacked. That thing is badly jacked. The line. 2027 01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:55,479 Speaker 1: Well, here's what I'll say, Luke. I want your breakdown 2028 01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,040 Speaker 1: on that in a second. You're you're a girl. Dad, 2029 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,200 Speaker 1: This is this is pretty awesome, any. 2030 01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:03,360 Speaker 3: I mean, for a dad to be this supportive is amazing. 2031 01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:07,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's a wonderful father. Don't misunderstand me. I 2032 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,120 Speaker 3: love the spirit, love the spirit. That thing is jacked. 2033 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:11,320 Speaker 3: That thing is what's. 2034 01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,120 Speaker 1: Jacked about that, Luke. It looks it looks fine to me. 2035 01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,240 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, well you need glasses because I mean, look 2036 01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:19,000 Speaker 3: at the lettering on UF and C. It's not lined up. 2037 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,040 Speaker 3: The piece behind it bows out on the bottom of 2038 01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:25,000 Speaker 3: the F. It's all different script on the glove. There's 2039 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:26,439 Speaker 3: no symmetry with the lettering. 2040 01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,400 Speaker 1: Let me finish, Please don't please, don't find tooth calment. 2041 01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:29,920 Speaker 1: I think from it. 2042 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,960 Speaker 3: It's not it's not fine tooth calmb dude, it's it's jacked. 2043 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,360 Speaker 3: Those things have to be correct when you do them. 2044 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,120 Speaker 3: If you look at her arm, the hand is much 2045 01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,160 Speaker 3: further away from the wrist than it should be for 2046 01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,040 Speaker 3: the choking arm. It doesn't make any sense. The shading 2047 01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:49,920 Speaker 3: is uneven. The line work of the cage makes no sense. Dude. 2048 01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:52,759 Speaker 3: This is not like BC. You know fuck all about tattoos. 2049 01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,719 Speaker 3: I actually know a little bit. I'm not an expert. 2050 01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,400 Speaker 3: I mean I know a little bit. That's not a 2051 01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:57,839 Speaker 3: good tattoo, not by anything. 2052 01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Commission a four minute video against your response just now, 2053 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:08,000 Speaker 1: then our artistic ability aside. Luke, Uh, pretty awesome dad move. Okay, 2054 01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:09,720 Speaker 1: I know your father doesn't watch the show. 2055 01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:16,880 Speaker 3: Two thumbs up on the Dad move. Tattoo needs some work. Sorry, 2056 01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 3: it does well. 2057 01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:18,960 Speaker 1: I can't wait. 2058 01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:21,960 Speaker 4: Arms is all fucked up? That thing is that thing is? 2059 01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:22,759 Speaker 4: That thing is jacked? 2060 01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:27,479 Speaker 1: Wow? Okay, Luke Uh. Sorry. When we reach five hundred 2061 01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:29,920 Speaker 1: K and I get an MK inspired tattoo, I'm sure 2062 01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,439 Speaker 1: we'll have you on to break down afterwards. How bad it. 2063 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:33,400 Speaker 4: No, here's what we'll do. 2064 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:35,519 Speaker 3: When we get there, I'm going to take you to 2065 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,439 Speaker 3: a good place that does high end tattoos. That's the difference. 2066 01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,320 Speaker 1: This is very similar to the drinking episode we did 2067 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,800 Speaker 1: that time. Not going to tell the story about your 2068 01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,040 Speaker 1: lack of forgiveness for me being late due to the 2069 01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,759 Speaker 1: trials and tribulations of the New York Public Transmit system, 2070 01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:57,679 Speaker 1: but your outright misogyny against the power of alcohol brand 2071 01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,960 Speaker 1: that turned out to be a sponsor of a sponsor 2072 01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,200 Speaker 1: of a partner that had to be I mean, you 2073 01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:05,160 Speaker 1: think the Pat Tillman joke was a long term distraction 2074 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,400 Speaker 1: to our future. This made the jmma L episode look 2075 01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:08,920 Speaker 1: like nothing. 2076 01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:11,519 Speaker 3: Luke, Okay, I don't know what you're talking about, because 2077 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,360 Speaker 3: that was a word salad of nothingness. 2078 01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:14,639 Speaker 4: Bring Jay back in here. 2079 01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,560 Speaker 3: Jay doesn't know fuck all about tattoos either, but I 2080 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,080 Speaker 3: would love to get his perspective here. Jay, what do 2081 01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:20,920 Speaker 3: you think about that tattoo? It's jacked right. 2082 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,559 Speaker 2: So interestingly when I first saw it, when Brian sent 2083 01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,960 Speaker 2: it yesterday, I was like, Oh, that's such a nice 2084 01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:30,479 Speaker 2: thing to do. That's cool. And as you've run it down, yeah, 2085 01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,080 Speaker 2: you could see. 2086 01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,640 Speaker 3: Full of errors. It's full of anatomy mistakes. There's no 2087 01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:37,320 Speaker 3: symmetry in the lettering whatsoever. The line work is such. 2088 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:39,840 Speaker 2: But Luke, you have to understand how a simple guy 2089 01:35:39,880 --> 01:35:41,640 Speaker 2: from a factory town could look at that and just 2090 01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:43,400 Speaker 2: go like, oh, that's nice, you know. 2091 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,479 Speaker 1: Jay, at least can you shame him for him, you know, 2092 01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:49,320 Speaker 1: hurting our sponsor relations that time and now we can't 2093 01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:50,679 Speaker 1: drink alcohol anymore on the show. 2094 01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:52,439 Speaker 2: I don't know how much I should say about that, 2095 01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:54,799 Speaker 2: but let's just say you're recounting the event happened. 2096 01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,880 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, well here's what I would say. 2097 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:01,800 Speaker 3: BC. You love to use ignorance and being from the 2098 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,360 Speaker 3: factory town as a shield for it, whereas I say, hmm, 2099 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:10,080 Speaker 3: rather than being ignorant, maybe I should learn about these things. Ah, 2100 01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:10,920 Speaker 3: that's the difference. 2101 01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:15,599 Speaker 1: Do you tell Picasso what color to use, what point 2102 01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,040 Speaker 1: on his ear drum to insize it? No? You don't, Luke, Okay, 2103 01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:22,040 Speaker 1: you don't tug on Superman's cape. Here's the deal. There 2104 01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,800 Speaker 1: are a lot of shows out here, combat fight talk shows. 2105 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,599 Speaker 1: You know what they are, Huh, the talk? Okay, Luke, 2106 01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:29,759 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk going on in this space. 2107 01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:33,639 Speaker 1: This what we do here, This is art and sometimes aren't. Luke, 2108 01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,760 Speaker 1: people will not realize it's art, Like what is art? 2109 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,640 Speaker 2: We are aware that isn't the guy who cut his 2110 01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:40,040 Speaker 2: ear off? 2111 01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,200 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's why I made that joke, Luke, Jay. 2112 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:43,760 Speaker 1: You gotta stay ahead of the game here. I'm always 2113 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:44,840 Speaker 1: always two jokes ahead of you. 2114 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:45,360 Speaker 3: Hear right? 2115 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:50,200 Speaker 1: So, Luke, you know our is subjective. It can't be 2116 01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:51,920 Speaker 1: it can't be put in a box, you know what 2117 01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We're like Luke. There will come a time 2118 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,160 Speaker 1: years from now, probably like a true artist, probably after 2119 01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,520 Speaker 1: we die, where people will find this show and realize. 2120 01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:04,360 Speaker 3: You go to your local tattoo studio to get good 2121 01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,640 Speaker 3: line work, what you think is good line work, and 2122 01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,200 Speaker 3: I'll go to somebody who's actually good at line work, 2123 01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,000 Speaker 3: and then you can tell me how your tattoo is 2124 01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:15,280 Speaker 3: just as good. Holy shit, that's amazing line work. 2125 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,920 Speaker 1: Where I come from, good line work means you know 2126 01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:19,280 Speaker 1: a guy who can get you an apall. You know 2127 01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:19,679 Speaker 1: what I mean. 2128 01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 3: Look, the guy's an amazing dad, is an amazing dad, 2129 01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:28,000 Speaker 3: but the tattoo is not good at all. Okay, for 2130 01:37:28,120 --> 01:37:29,840 Speaker 3: my odds and ends, I'll keep you very brief because 2131 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,439 Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil it for you, But Victor 2132 01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:35,639 Speaker 3: Rodriguez is a writer over at Bloody Elbow and has 2133 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:39,879 Speaker 3: put together a two part series on one Championship, And basically, 2134 01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:43,519 Speaker 3: here's the story. There's many different little component pieces to it, 2135 01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,080 Speaker 3: all of which are worth reading. Now the story is 2136 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,840 Speaker 3: especially long, but I just mean it's broken up. But 2137 01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,400 Speaker 3: they talk to a bunch of fighters and a bunch 2138 01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:55,120 Speaker 3: of managers and without revealing their names, and found all 2139 01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:57,519 Speaker 3: kinds of problems. You guys know, one will be like, oh, 2140 01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:59,840 Speaker 3: we have nine trillion viewers for a show you didn't 2141 01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:03,080 Speaker 3: have nine trillion where we make more money than anyone 2142 01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,720 Speaker 3: else in MMA. And it turns out that they are 2143 01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,840 Speaker 3: burning through money, although they have raised a ton, but 2144 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,160 Speaker 3: they're certainly burning through money. At any enormous clip here 2145 01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:14,920 Speaker 3: they go through complaints about favoritism, mismatches, improper relationships with 2146 01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:18,720 Speaker 3: the gym evolve, and much more than that. There's a 2147 01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,760 Speaker 3: whole lot of things, including like not being able to 2148 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,080 Speaker 3: post about injuries after fights on social media, really sort 2149 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:26,559 Speaker 3: of restrictive. 2150 01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,960 Speaker 1: Not being able to say anything negative publicly. 2151 01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,200 Speaker 3: Right, disparishment clauses the whole nine yards. So I really 2152 01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,760 Speaker 3: encourage you to read that again, whenever someone makes a 2153 01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,240 Speaker 3: claim about One, I can't tell you that it's false. 2154 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,080 Speaker 3: Something positive like oh, Eddie Alvarez's contract is like nine 2155 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,240 Speaker 3: to ten figures. I cannot tell you that it is false. 2156 01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:45,880 Speaker 3: What I can tell you is it is in your interest. 2157 01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:48,280 Speaker 3: And I said this on Joe Rogan's podcast too, it 2158 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,960 Speaker 3: is in your interest to not accept any part of 2159 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,599 Speaker 3: it at face value. Do not do that. So please 2160 01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:54,320 Speaker 3: read those articles. 2161 01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:57,479 Speaker 1: There you go, There you go, all right, I mean, yeah, 2162 01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 1: I can believe I can believe anything about One at 2163 01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,120 Speaker 1: this point, except for everything one says about one. 2164 01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:03,519 Speaker 3: Luke. 2165 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:04,439 Speaker 1: All right, that's. 2166 01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:07,160 Speaker 4: Right, That's that's a good that's a great way to 2167 01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:07,799 Speaker 4: put it exactly. 2168 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:08,760 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 2169 01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,479 Speaker 1: Okay, And I think Shatri just send us a season is. 2170 01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:17,120 Speaker 4: For We are probably banned from Singapore as it stands, Luke. 2171 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,840 Speaker 1: They also bowed Bob Dylan when he plugged in. Just 2172 01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,080 Speaker 1: a reminder on on the on that and what art 2173 01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,360 Speaker 1: really is and what we're putting out there in the universe. 2174 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,439 Speaker 1: It doesn't know boundaries, it doesn't know race, right, It's 2175 01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:32,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just I think I say it, Luke. 2176 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,200 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, if you want to follow Morning Combat on 2177 01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 3: Twitter or social media, you certainly can. It's Morning Combat everywhere, 2178 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,200 Speaker 3: same name with the M and the K. But if 2179 01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:43,759 Speaker 3: you want to follow me and BC on install or Twitter, 2180 01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,080 Speaker 3: it varies with the names there. So take a screenshot 2181 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,400 Speaker 3: and give us a follow if you want. We will 2182 01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:52,400 Speaker 3: do reader and I should say viewers submissions, fan submissions 2183 01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:55,200 Speaker 3: on Wednesday. We'll do dead wrong on Friday. Best place 2184 01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:56,640 Speaker 3: to get those emails in to send us all that 2185 01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,559 Speaker 3: stuff Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. 2186 01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:01,680 Speaker 4: Com at at gmail dot com. That's the place to go. 2187 01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,280 Speaker 3: Uh, you want to try Showtime, you can Showtime dot 2188 01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,280 Speaker 3: com through the day free trial. You're likely you can 2189 01:40:06,360 --> 01:40:08,120 Speaker 3: keep it. If not, you can go watch I don't 2190 01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,599 Speaker 3: know anything else that appeals to idiots. And uh yeah, 2191 01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:14,360 Speaker 3: you can buy some merch store dot show or is 2192 01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:16,439 Speaker 3: it show dot store dot com. I also forget that 2193 01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:19,320 Speaker 3: store dot show dot com. And you can get some 2194 01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:21,519 Speaker 3: mk hats. You can get some tumblers, you can get 2195 01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:24,680 Speaker 3: some mugs, all kinds of good stuff right there for 2196 01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:27,160 Speaker 3: you and anything else we see. 2197 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:32,400 Speaker 1: Any final thoughts, uh, you know, just basically art related. 2198 01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,160 Speaker 1: You know, I think you got the gist of where 2199 01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:34,680 Speaker 1: I was going like. 2200 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:40,760 Speaker 3: Art is not an excuse to have low standards. There's 2201 01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:44,920 Speaker 3: a big difference. Yeah yeah, put that, put that, put that, 2202 01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:50,720 Speaker 3: put that, put that condom on your balls there, doctor yeah, yeah, 2203 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,920 Speaker 3: all right for everyone at showtime at Malka at CBS Sports, 2204 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,840 Speaker 3: that's Brian Campbell. I'm Luke Thomas until Wednesday, and all 2205 01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:56,800 Speaker 3: of your games be loyal, Yes,