1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,519 Speaker 1: Welcome in his Verdicus Center. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with you, and We've got a 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: lot to unpack on the show, especially when it deals 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: with the issue of Iran and where we are right now. 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: Well, Israel is winning massive victories in Iran that they 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: have decimated Iran's military leadership. We've seen one chief of 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: staff after another after another of Iran's military taken out 8 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 3: by Israel. We have seen nuclear facilities across Iran taken 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: out by Israel. The attacks have been incredibly effective. Iran 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 3: is striking back. They are firing ballistic missiles into Israel, 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: trying to kill civilians. Israel is attacking military targets, Iran 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: is attacking civilian targets. So far, the degree of success 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: has been spectacular. 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 4: But yet the question remains, what is America's role? What 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 4: do we do? 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: Is America as the Trump administration, going to be directly 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: involved in taking out the Ford Oh nuclear facility in Iran. 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: We're going to break that down in this podcast. 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: I want to also just talk to you real quickly 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: about what you can do to help the people in Israel. 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 2: And we've been talking for a long time about an 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: organization called the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And 24 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: right now, after you're witnessing what is happening, you may say, 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: you know what, I want to stand with the people 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: in Israel and what we're saying it is disturbing Anti 27 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: Semitism on the rise, not just in the Middle East, but. 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: Even here in America. 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: We're seeing Jewish schools, they are being targeted, synagogues, they 30 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: are being threatened, Families that are living in fear, and 31 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 2: it's a whole nother level of pain that we're witnessing 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: in Israel. And that's why I want you to get 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: involved with the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. They're 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: on the front lines and they're giving food and shelter 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: to so many displaced Jewish families that are under threat. 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: They're also literally as we speak, building bomb shelters just 37 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: for children to be able to save more children with 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: all of the rockets that are coming in. They're helping 39 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: survivors of hate rebuild their lives and their homes. And 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: they don't just respond to this crisis, they work every 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: day to prevent future crisis from even happening. Now, how 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: can you help, Well, you can have a simple gift 43 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: of just forty five dollars that will help support their 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: life saving work by providing food and sheltering so much 45 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: more so, if you want to stand with the people 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: in Israel, you can do it right now by getting 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: involved with IFCJ. You can call to make a donation 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 2: eight a eight four eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: eight four eight eight four three two five. You can 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: also give securely at IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ dot org. 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: Every dollar helps. Don't wait. Be the difference IFCJ dot 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: org or eight at eight four eight eight IFCJ. All right, 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: So Center, you started your day very early dealing with 54 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: this issue of Iran. 55 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: First off, well I did. 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: I spent two hours in my office first thing this 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 3: morning doing an interview with Tucker Carlson. Now, you and 58 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: I both know Tucker well, we like Tucker. I agree 59 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: with Tucker on eighty percent of the issues. I think 60 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: he's been fantastic on a ton of issues. He's been 61 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: fantastic on securing the border. He's been fantastic on standing 62 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: up to COVID lockdowns, to standing up to COVID vaccine mandates. 63 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: He's been great on free speech. He's been great on 64 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: the Second Amendment. We agree, and in fact, I will 65 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: say during the idiotic COVID lockdowns, Tucker's monologue every night 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: on Fox was the single best thing on television, which 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: I told him at the time, and I agree with him. 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: I will say. 69 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: On foreign policy, Tucker has gone back crap crazy. He's 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: gone off the rails. He is suddenly a hardcore isolationist. 71 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: And so he asked. 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 3: He asked about a month ago, Hey, I'd like to 73 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: come interview, and I knew he was coming in to 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: interview me, and it was not going to be pleasant. 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 3: He disagrees with me on foreign policy, so we were 76 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 3: going to have in a rough and tumble fight. We 77 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 3: agreed to this interview a month ago. And yet it 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: ended up happening today, right when Israel and Iran are 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: in a war and Tucker has spent the last several 80 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: days attacking Donald Trump and saying Donald Trump was. 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: It was just really odd. Can we talk about that. 82 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that are shell shocked right now, saying, like, 83 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: what is happening? Tucker Carlson, who's usually hanging out with 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Donald Trump during the campaign and up on stage, is 85 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: now attacking Donald Trump. 86 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: This is not what anyone was expecting. 87 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: Yes, he's blasted Trump as complicit in this horrible attack, 88 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: and he keeps saying World War three is gonna happen. 89 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: And he's been just over the top. And I will 90 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: tell you we sat down, we did it in my office, 91 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: and it started off. Look, I did not intend to 92 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: get combative, but it started off his first question. He 93 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: was throwing haymakers at me, and he was coming at me. 94 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 3: And it was a two hour interview. The interview will 95 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 3: come out Wednesday at one pm, and so you can 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 3: watch the whole two hour interview. And he attacks Trump, 97 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 3: he blasts what he calls the APAC lobby, and he 98 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: spends twenty minutes focused on how he thinks the APAC 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: lobby is dominating American foreign policy. And I will tell 100 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: you it gets pretty rough. 101 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: And because I for people that, by the way, don't 102 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: know APAC, can you explain what that is? 103 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: So APAK is the American Israel Political Action Committee and 104 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 3: it is a group of Americans who care about standing 105 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 3: with Israel. And Tucker argued, they are a foreign lobby 106 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 3: working for the government of Israel that should register and 107 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 3: should be prosecuted for not being registered. And it was 108 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: just unhinged. And I get like their conspiracy sections of 109 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: the Internet that that that are worried that like Apak 110 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: is running the world. 111 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 4: It's just not reality. 112 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: And and and he didn't like like it when I 113 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: called him out on it, and and I did. 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: He also that there's. 115 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: A completely surreal portion where I pointed out that Iran 116 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: is actively trying to murder Donald J. Trump has hired hitman. 117 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: And he just said, that's not true. I've never heard 118 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: anything about it. I don't know anything about it. Well, 119 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: it happens to be a fact. It happens to be. 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: Do oj is indicted Iranian hitman for trying to murder 121 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: Donald Trump? 122 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: And and so that. 123 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: You know that. By the way, when you brought that up, 124 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: or was he refusing to accept. 125 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: He insisted I was lying. He was just like, that's 126 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: not true. So I'll say this Today's podcast is on Wednesday, 127 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: Friday's podcast. We're going to break down in depth this 128 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: interview because it's it's important that the foreign policy divide. 129 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: I think isolationists those who oppose And by the way, 130 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: I went back at Tucker and I said, Okay, is 131 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 3: there any military intervention that that that Trump has done 132 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: that you agreed with, and he wouldn't agree with anything. 133 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: And it's just in my view. And I lay this 134 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: out at length and listen Friday podcast, we're going to 135 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: do a deep dive. But traditionally there have been two 136 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: polls in Republican foreign policy analysis, interventionists and isolationists. I 137 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: think they're both wrong. I consider myself a third point 138 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: on the triangle. I am a non interventionist hawk. I 139 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: am very reluctant to engage in military conflict, just like 140 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: Trump is. But I also believe in peace through strength. 141 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: The best way you avoid war is being strong enough 142 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: your enemies don't want to stand up to you. And 143 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: I gotta say Donald Trump the first term. In the 144 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: second term, I am very hard pressed to think of 145 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: a single foreign policy decision that I disagree with. And 146 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: that's not accidental. I spend a lot of time talking 147 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 3: with the President, and on foreign policy, he has agreed 148 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: with me overwhelmingly. We're on the same page. Tucker is not. 149 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: He thinks Trump is wrong and if you listen to 150 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: the rhetoric, and he's right now as we're sitting there, 151 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: it is twelve twenty five am Tuesday night. He's putting 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: out little snippets like blast me and his views. Anyone 153 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: who wants to stand with Israel and stand up to 154 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: Iran is a crazy warmonger. I just I think that's wrong. 155 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 3: I don't think Trump is a crazy warmonger. I think 156 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: he's a strong commander in chief. I think he is 157 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: defending America. I think he's defending Israel, and I think 158 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: he's standing up to a theocratic zealot who wants to 159 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: murder as many Americans as he can and as many 160 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: Israelis as he can. 161 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: By the way, I will say that quote all day 162 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: that's been going through my head with this is your 163 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: my one of my favorite quotes of yours. When you 164 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: say we live in interesting times, and it is an 165 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: interesting day. When you and Donald Trump are together and 166 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson is against the two of you, we are 167 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: living in interesting times. 168 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: It's actually it's a quote. It's an old Chinese curse. 169 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: And so the Chinese curse is, may you live in 170 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: interesting times, and it's meant to be that that's going 171 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 3: to be a real problem. And I say all the time, 172 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 3: we do, we live in interesting times, and it means 173 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: the challenges facing America in the world are massive, but 174 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: also the opportunities are massive. And I got to say, I. 175 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 4: Love living where we are right now. 176 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: I think America, you know, President Trump has said we're 177 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 3: in a golden age. I think there's an enormous amount 178 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 3: of truth to that. We have a strong president who's 179 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: fighting for America, who's defeating our enemies, who's fighting for freedom, 180 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 3: who's fighting for free enterprise. We've got Republican majorities in 181 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: the House and Senate. It's an exciting time right. 182 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: Now, it really is. 183 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 2: So let's give an update, and obviously we're going to 184 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: deal with that interview on Friday, but let's get into 185 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: the matasa of what's happened in the last forty eight hours. 186 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: And a lot of it comes down to some news 187 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: that has obviously caught the world by surprise. Number one, 188 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: we know that the President said, where the leader of 189 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: Iran is, we could have taken out if you wanted to. 190 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: We've decided not to. 191 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: However, we may also be engaging and standing with Israel 192 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: in some sort of attack on Iran, and that would 193 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: specifically be on their nuclear program. 194 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: And let's break all that down as well. 195 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 196 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: So if you look at what Israel is doing, they 197 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: have been surgical in their precision. They have taken out 198 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 3: senior military leaders. And by the way, if you didn't 199 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: listen to Monday's podcast, you should listen to Monday's pod. 200 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: We break down, we list all of the senior military 201 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: leaders they've taken out, one after the other after the other. 202 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it is the leaders of the IRGC, it 203 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: is the chief of staff of the military. 204 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: It is. 205 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: It's at the point with where if you're an Iranian 206 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 3: military officer and they say, hey, Ben, you want to 207 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 3: be head of the Iranian military, your answer should be. 208 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: Hell, no, no, I'll pass on that. 209 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm dying in twenty four hours. Because Israel 210 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: has been so effective, they literally promote someone boom they're dead. 211 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: Promote someone, Boom, they're dead. And it's a little bit 212 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: it reminds me of when Israel did the pager operation 213 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: against Hesbla and the pager operation against Hesbla. Hesbela leadership 214 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: gave pagers to terrorists and an israel planet a little 215 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: bomb the pagers, they detonated them and it was the 216 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: most accurately targeted military attack I think in history. Yeah, 217 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: because hesbel leadership decided who gets the pagers only the 218 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: people who were backcrap crazy enough that we want terrorists 219 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 3: able to page at a moment's notice to go kill people. 220 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: So they gave the pagers to them. They blew up 221 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: and they they either killed or wounded a ton of 222 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: hesbel A terrorists. The next day, Israel had a second 223 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: operation where they had walkie talkies that Hesbela was using, 224 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: and the walkie talkies had bombs in them and they 225 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 3: started exploding. And the beauty of it is hesbel A terrorists. 226 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: I think those guys were terrified at phone rings and 227 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: they jump and run screaming like. It was incredibly effective. 228 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: And I actually think what Israel is doing against the 229 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: military leadership is similar, where if you're an Iranian soldier, 230 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: you're looking around going wait, every time someone gets promoted 231 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: to run this thing, they die the next day. That 232 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: is fantastically effective in terms of limiting Iran's ability to 233 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: wage war, limiting Iran's ability to wage war against Israel, 234 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: limiting Iran's ability to wage war against America, limiting their 235 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 3: ability to sponsor terrorism. So that has been incredibly effective. 236 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: They're also taking out Iran's nuclear scientist. And so this 237 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 3: is all about you have a crazy iatola who is 238 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: a religious zealot who routinely chants death to America and 239 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: death to Israel, and he's trying to build nuclear weapons, 240 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 3: and he's trying to build ICBMs. And here's an important point, 241 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: ben on ICBM stands for an intercontinental ballistic missile. You 242 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: don't need an ICBM to get to Israel. Iran is 243 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: attacking Israel with ballistic missiles. On ICBM, the intercontinental aspect 244 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: of it is entirely to take a missile to America. 245 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: The reason Iran is building ICBMs is they want to 246 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: be able to carry a nuclear war head to the 247 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 3: United States of America and detonate it in the skies 248 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: of New York or Los Angeles or Washington, DC and 249 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: murder as many Americans as possible. And so President Trump 250 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: has been incredibly consistent saying Iran will not get a 251 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 3: nuclear weapon, period the end. And in fact, I want 252 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: to play a montage of a couple of minutes of 253 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 3: President Trump's saying this over the years. For more than 254 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: a decade he has said this line. And yet some observers, 255 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: including Tucker are acting shocked that President Trump is saying 256 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 3: Iran can't get a nuclear weapon. He has said this 257 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: without deviation for more than ten years. 258 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: Give a listen. 259 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 5: You cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. You cannot 260 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 5: let it happen because bad things will happen if that happens. 261 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 5: But everybody stopped. They were ready to make a deal. 262 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 5: We would have made a deal. It was great for everybody. 263 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 5: No nuclear weapons. You can't give them nuclear weapons. Now 264 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 5: they're gonna have a nuclear weapon. 265 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: Don't let Iran have nuclear weapons. 266 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 5: That's my only thing I have to tell you today. 267 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: Don't let them have it. 268 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 5: They would have never had them, including around we would 269 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 5: have They can't have a nuclear weapon, that's all. They 270 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 5: can't have nuclear weapons. It's too too destructive, too powerful. 271 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: They can't have it. 272 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 5: But I wanted to make a deal with them. No 273 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 5: nuclear weapons. You can't have nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are 274 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 5: the single greatest threat to this world, to the whole world, 275 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 5: and Victor Orban understands that, and some others do too. 276 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: I just don't want them to have a nuclear weapon, 277 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 5: and they weren't going to have one, and they cannot. 278 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: Have a nuclear weapon. That was the only thing, the 279 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: one thing I said you cannot have. 280 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 5: I just didn't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon. 281 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: I said, you know, we're going to make a great deal. 282 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 5: Everybody's going to be happy, You're going to be rich 283 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 5: as hell again, everything's going to be great. But you 284 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 5: cannot have a nuclear weapon. You can't let Iran have 285 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,479 Speaker 5: nuclear weapons. 286 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon. Very simple. They cannot 287 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: have a nuclear weapon. 288 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 5: Instead, we have a very hostile country that wants nuclear weapons. 289 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: Can't let that happen. 290 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: The main thing is Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. 291 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: That was my main thing. The deal was a simple deal. 292 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: Iran can't have a nuclear you know, it can't have 293 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 5: a missile, can't have a nuclear missile. It cannot have 294 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 5: that nuclear capability. 295 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: You listen to president. 296 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: By the way, we've got another nine and a half minute, 297 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: so the President saying this over and over again. 298 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, the ship is sixteen minutes long. 299 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: So we literally cut it short. 300 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: I was like, look, we can't play a sixteen minute 301 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: clip on the podcast. But that is President Trump for 302 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 3: more than a decade. I'll tell you a story. So 303 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: back in the twenty sixteen presidential election, Trump and I 304 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: are running against each other. And I organized a rally 305 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 3: on Capitol Hill against the Obama Iran nuclear deal, and 306 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: we had thousands of people come out against it, and 307 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: I was saying, this is a terrible deal. 308 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: It will result in. 309 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: Iran getting a nuclear weapon. And I invited Donald Trump 310 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 3: to come to the rally, and Trump, look key and 311 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 3: I were running against each other. We were friends, but 312 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: we were opponents in that race. And so I remember 313 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 3: Trump showed up and he's like, Ted, why the hell 314 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: did you invite me to your rally? Like I don't understand, 315 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: Like we're running against each other, and you invited me 316 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: to your rally, And I said, I said, Donald, it's 317 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 3: real simple. When you show up, you bring a crap 318 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: ton of TV cameras and the press all covers it. 319 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: And I care about this issue, and if we do 320 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 3: not stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon, we are 321 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: endangering the lives of millions of Americans. And so Trump 322 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: and I together, in the middle of the campaign where 323 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: we're campaigning against each other, we stood on the stage 324 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: together and said we agree, Iran cannot get a nuclear 325 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: weapon and America must do whatever is necessary to stop 326 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. We were unified a 327 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: decade ago in that that has been Trump's consistent position. 328 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: So I've got to say it's remarkable watching the Tucker 329 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 3: Carlsons of the world react with shock. Why the hell 330 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: does Trump want to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon? 331 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 3: The reason is simple, and this is where look in 332 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: foreign policy. People think in a very binary sense. Either 333 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: you're an interventionist who wants to invade every country on Earth, 334 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 3: or your an isolationist who never wants to engage in 335 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 3: military force. 336 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 4: Both views are wrong. 337 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 3: The touchstone for military action should be protecting the vital 338 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: national security interests of the United States. The reason President 339 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: Trump is standing with Israel, Israel is doing a massive 340 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: favor to us. Every one of us should stop and 341 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: say thank you to the tiny nation of Israel. It 342 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 3: is the size of the state of New Jersey. 343 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not big. A lot of people don't realize. 344 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: That it is tiny, and they are actively taking out 345 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 3: Iran's nuclear capability right now. And listen, those nuclear weapons. 346 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 3: If Iran developed them, there's a real possibility that would 347 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 3: be used against Israel, but there is at least an 348 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: equal possibility they would be used against America. To murder 349 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 3: millions of Americans. And so it's not America. Also, it's Israel. 350 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: It's taking this out. 351 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and let's bring in this new aspect because this 352 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 2: is some of the breaking news that President Trump has 353 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 2: called for Rand's unconditional surrender and also called the Supreme 354 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: Leader out, saying, look, we know where you are. You're 355 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: an easy target. You might want to hurry up and 356 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: get a deal done here. Clearly, the President's not advocating 357 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: for regime change. What he is advocating for is making 358 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: sure that they never get a nuclear weapon. 359 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: Well, and I will tell you on the point that 360 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: he said we know where you are. He said it 361 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 3: in reference to protecting American servicemen and women. And when 362 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: this war broke out, we did a podcast that night 363 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 3: and we said, listen, every one of us should pray 364 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 3: for the people of Israel because we're going to see 365 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: a massive ballistic missile onslaught of Israel and we're going 366 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: to see a lot of Israelis killed. 367 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 4: You know. 368 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 3: I talked on Sunday night to a good friend of 369 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: mine whose mother is in Jerusalem right now now, and 370 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: he said, his mom, since this war started, he said, 371 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 3: she hasn't slept a night because every night they wake 372 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,239 Speaker 3: up at two or three in the morning and they 373 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 3: rush the air raid sirens are going off. They rush 374 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: to a bomb shelter because they're facing incoming missiles constantly. 375 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 3: That's a hard circumstance. And so I will say to 376 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: all of our listeners, pray for the people of Israel. 377 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 4: That is hard. 378 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: They are doing this because the risk of an Iranian 379 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 3: nuclear weapon is a massive murder of Israelis, potentially on 380 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 3: the order of magnitude of the millions. So it is 381 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: the right thing for them to do. But Israelis are dying. 382 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: They're dying every day from because Iran is targeting civilians. 383 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: But secondly, old, let me make this other point, Ben Iran, 384 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: there is a real threat of Iran targeting American servicemen 385 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: and women. And we've got thousands upon thousands of servicemen 386 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: and women in the Middle East. 387 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 4: And I will tell you. 388 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: I called on Sunday, I called President try and I said, hey, 389 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: I just want to tell you thank. 390 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: You for what you're doing on Iran. In Israel. 391 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: You are doing an incredible job. In the last few days, 392 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 3: these have been some of the best days you have 393 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: had as president, because President Trump is standing unshakably with Israel, 394 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: which is where we should be. But he's also made 395 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: absolutely clear to Iran, if you attack American servicemen and women, 396 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 3: you will face a devastating response. And as you noted 397 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: the tweety scent, he said directly the Ietola, we know 398 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: where you are. And the point is clear if you 399 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: kill American servicemen and women. To be clear, Iran could 400 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: kill some of our soldiers. I mean they could fire 401 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: enough missiles that we would have active duty military killed. 402 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 3: And what Trump has said as the commander in chief 403 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 3: is if you do that, you are going to regret 404 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 3: it because we are going to strike back. You cannot 405 00:20:54,800 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: attack American active duty military. And thank god Trump is 406 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: being a strong commander in chief. Joe Biden could never 407 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 3: get that sentence out of his mouth. But President Trump 408 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: is protecting our servicemen and women. And I so I 409 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 3: called him on Sunday and just said, hey, thank you. 410 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 3: It's making a real difference protecting our servicemen and women. 411 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: Well, let's also talk about what's happened with the air 412 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: superiority or the lack of security that Iran actually had 413 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: over their own country. Yes, and and that could also 414 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: spell trouble for the leadership in Iran because now the 415 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: people may realize, wow, we may have been played by 416 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: these these these horrible leaders. And there is total air 417 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: superiority now by Israel or anybody that wants to to 418 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: go after Iran. 419 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 3: So Israel and potentially America have complete air superiority over Iran. 420 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: And Israel has taken out Iran's air defenses, so they're 421 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: not able to stop Israeli jets in the air, and 422 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: and and and the bombers are bombing the hell out 423 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 3: of As of two days days ago, there had been 424 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: over seven dred and twenty military strikes in Iran. The 425 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: numbers substantially higher now I don't have the current number, 426 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 3: but it was seven hundred and twenty two days ago. 427 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: And Iran is not able to do any thing about 428 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 3: it because their air defenses have been destroyed, and so 429 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 3: they're just sitting ducks. They're just and I will tell 430 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 3: you the dynamics. So there's a delicate question. Israel has 431 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 3: been able to and it actually has succeeded in taking 432 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 3: out a massive amount of the military leadership of Iran. 433 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: They have also succeeded in pounding the hell out of 434 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: Iran's nuclear facilities, like the Natan's facility, which is where 435 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: they do much of the nuclear enrichment. Israel has bombed 436 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 3: the living crap out of The one exception that Israel 437 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: is not able to take out is the four Doh 438 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 3: Nuclear Research Facility. Now four Doah is built literally in 439 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: the base of a mountain, and it was built into 440 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 3: a mountain particularly to withstand a bombing attack. And Israel 441 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 3: does not have the military hardware to take out FORIDA. 442 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: Their bombs are not big enough. America does we have 443 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 3: bunker buster bombs that are thirty thousand pounds, that are 444 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 3: massive bombs that can take out on underground, under mountain 445 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: nuclear facility like FIDA. Israel also does not have bombers 446 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 3: that are big enough to carry a thirty thousand pound bomb. 447 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: That's a big ass bomb. And so the B two 448 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: bomber which America has is big enough to carry that bomb. 449 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: Israel doesn't have bombers that big. And so one of 450 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 3: the open questions Israel is asked, America, will you fly 451 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 3: in the B two bombers and drop your bunker busters 452 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 3: on fourd Oh and take it out as you and 453 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: I sit here at twelve what is it, twelve forty 454 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: three am on Tuesday night, Wednesday morning. I do not 455 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: know if President Trump's going to do that. This is 456 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: being actively debated. It could by the time this podcast 457 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 3: comes out, it is possible that America will drop those 458 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 3: bunker busters. I think that is a real possibility in 459 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 3: the next few hours, in the next few days. And 460 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: and in my view. 461 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 2: With that being said, then I got to ask this 462 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 2: questions that people understand. I I said this earlier night 463 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: on Chris Cuomo's show, and I said on Pierce Morgan's show, 464 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: and I said, I'm Fox the same thing. 465 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 3: I am not in favor, but Ben, you're a lot 466 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: of lefty shows, peer, I'm fighting the commis every day. 467 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: You know, is like does Bernie Sanders have a show AOC, 468 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 3: like like are you going on with with She of China? 469 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: Trying to go on with Tucker next? 470 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: You know, and just see if I can, I can, 471 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 2: I can explain them what my foreign policy is. But 472 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: it's I'm not in favor of putting troops on the ground. 473 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's on in favor of putting troops around. 474 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely no, no, no, no troops on the ground. 475 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 2: So what we're advocating for is simply this. If America 476 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: gets involved, it would be to do exactly what you 477 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 2: just said. It would be to do what Israel can't do, 478 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 2: to take out a nuclear drop. 479 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 4: A couple of bombs. 480 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: Threat, Yes, to drop a couple of bombs, to drop 481 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: a couple of bombs that Israel can't like their bombs 482 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: are not big enough to take out Florida. And I 483 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:25,119 Speaker 3: will say this from a perspective, my overwhelming touchstone is 484 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: what protects American national security interest, what keeps American safer. 485 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: It's America first. It's President Trump's foreign policy. That is 486 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 3: my foreign policy. And I will say when he and 487 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: I talked on Sunday, his comment when I was telling him, 488 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: you're doing a great job. What you're doing is fantastic. 489 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 3: As comment is, He said, Ted on foreign policy, you 490 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: and I are twins. And that's right. I agree with 491 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: him on foreign policy. The reason there is I think 492 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: a compelling argument for America to take out FIDAH is Florida. 493 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: They are doing research on nuclear weapons technology, they're trying 494 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: to develop nuclear bombs. They're not doing it because the 495 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 3: Iyatola thinks climate change is a problem and he wants 496 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: to create civilian nuclear power generation. It is entirely creating 497 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 3: a bomb that could murder millions of Americans or millions 498 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: of Israelis. They put it in the basement of a 499 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 3: mountain because they didn't want to be bombed. Only America 500 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: can take them out. And I got to say, I 501 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: think dropping those bombs, I have zero interest. We will 502 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 3: not send boots on the ground. We are not going 503 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 3: to invade Iran, and I have zero interest in coming 504 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 3: into the country and trying to turn it in into 505 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 3: a democratic utopia. 506 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: We don't. Look it would be. 507 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,719 Speaker 3: Wonderful if Iran woke up tomorrow and it was Switzerland. 508 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: But I'm not willing to risk your children or my 509 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: children to go in and fight a war to make 510 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: that happen. It is a very different calculus to say, 511 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 3: should we drop a couple of bombs and take out 512 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 3: a lab and fasciacility where they're developing nuclear weapons to 513 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 3: murder Americans? And I think that's a compelling argument. And 514 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: I got to say, I think there's a real possibility 515 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 3: in the next few hours or days that's exactly what's 516 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: going to happen. 517 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 2: Final question on this, if Donald Trump does in fact 518 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: make this decision. I actually don't think this is a 519 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: tough decision or a hard decision. I think it's a 520 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 2: simple decision, as you described it. If we must protect 521 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 2: the homeland and we must protect our allies at the 522 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: same time, and we're both a target, and we know 523 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: what a RAM would do if they got a nuclear weapon, 524 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: and we know that even if they didn't do it, 525 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: they might give it to their proxies to do it 526 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: as well. You add all that up, I think this 527 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 2: decision is actually pretty clear. If the President does that 528 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: and we move forward. There's also this big obsession in 529 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: the media out there's some massive divide in the MAGA world, 530 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: and this is going to split the Republican Party. I 531 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: actually think that's going to be a blip and we're 532 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: going to move back on to all the issues that 533 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 2: we do agree on. 534 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm not taking the bait on that. I want your 535 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: take on it as well. 536 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 537 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 3: Look, so I did Sean Hannity this evening, and Hannity 538 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: had a poll that came out that showed seventy five 539 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 3: percent of Americans agree with President Trump that we should 540 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: act against Iran to prevent them from getting a nuclear 541 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 3: weapons using, and the question in the poll was whatever 542 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 3: means necessary seventy five percent. I don't know that seventy 543 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 3: five percent of Americans agree on butterflies or rainbows or 544 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: peanut butter and jelly like, that's a big percentage in 545 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 3: today's divided world, and so it is frankly a handful 546 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 3: of people who are disagreeing. Tucker is really an outlier 547 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: on this. And I made the point, and we're going 548 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: to talk about this. Friday's pot is going. 549 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 4: To be all about this. 550 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: But Tucker used to be twenty years ago. Tucker was 551 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: a neo Khan interventionist who was a cheerleader for the 552 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: Iraq War, and he practically had on a short skirt 553 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 3: and pomp pumps. I think the Iraq War was a 554 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: catastrophic mistake, and so I think he was far too 555 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: intervention and Tucker does too. He thinks he was wrong, 556 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 3: and I respect that. Look, look, intelligent people will assess 557 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: change circumstances and be willing to change their position based 558 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 3: on the facts, and so I respect that he changes views. 559 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,959 Speaker 3: But the point I made is he went from being 560 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 3: an interventionist far too eager to send in the Marines 561 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: to being an isolationist who says we should never ever 562 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: use the military, even when we've got a lunatic, theocratic 563 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: zealot who is trying to murder Americans and has murdered 564 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: hundreds of Americans, and and and so I actually think 565 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 3: that view is a really fringe view in America. It's 566 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 3: a fringe view in Maga, uh, and it's a fringe 567 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: view across the country. And and and I think the 568 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 3: American people want a president who's going to say we 569 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: will protect ourselves against people who want to kill us. 570 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: That's exactly what Donald Trump is doing. 571 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, don't forget that. 572 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: We will be doing another show on Friday, and that 573 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: will be a big show in response to the interview 574 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: with Tiger Carlson. 575 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: So make sure you join us for that. 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