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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. What's Shoeler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on a Wednesday, as we'll

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Speaker 2: turn the page a little bit, start to look ahead

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Speaker 2: more than look back. Another massive one for the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 2: of course in Baltimore this weekend. Matt, just before the

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Speaker 2: show today, I did like a quick little fifteen minute

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Speaker 2: podcast hit with our buddy Mick McQuaid. Yeah, awesome Steelers

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Speaker 2: Ireland Pro Football Ireland guy. If you're a Steel's junkie,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've seen or heard Mick on.

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Speaker 3: Shows before his podcast yep.

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Speaker 2: And he's kind of he's been at the forefront of

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Speaker 2: Irish NFL content for a while and specifically Steelers Irish

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Speaker 2: NFL content, and he knows the stuff.

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Speaker 4: He knows his stuff.

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Speaker 2: And he was asking me, you know, what's it like,

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Speaker 2: what's the mentality for Baltimore away? And I was laughing

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Speaker 2: because like we say, like we're going on the road

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Speaker 2: to Baltimore. We're going to Baltimore versus Baltimore road game

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore. In Europe, they'll say Baltimore away. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: the week before Christmas, we have Detroit away. You know,

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Speaker 2: the week after Christmas, we have Cleveland away. Like that's

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Speaker 2: how they say it.

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Speaker 4: And so I was just I was.

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Speaker 3: Laughing that much different. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: It kind of.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like, hey, Sunday, you got Baltimore away. Sound like

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Speaker 2: a big rivalry and a big one, and it certainly is.

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Speaker 3: And uh, and this is an important game.

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Speaker 2: This is a very important game, big week, a few

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Speaker 2: huge days of prep here for the Steelers, a new

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Speaker 2: familiar name thrown into the mix on the practice squad

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Speaker 2: as well. So we've got plenty to get to. But

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Speaker 2: I wanted to start Matt with some fun good news.

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Speaker 3: Today to get us going okay great.

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Speaker 2: And that is quite simply something that we talked about

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Speaker 2: enough doom and gloom, something that we talked about. I

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Speaker 2: can't rememer if it was last week or maybe two

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Speaker 2: weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: It would have been two weeks ago because last week

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Speaker 2: was Thanksgiving and we didn't have a Thursday show that

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Speaker 2: we talked about with Bob Labriola thirteen days ago, and

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Speaker 2: that was Elsie Greenwood and his candidacy for the NFL

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: At that time, he had been named one of ten

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Speaker 2: semi finalists for the senior class, and we talked about

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Speaker 2: how that that would get whittled down to three in

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Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, and how we liked his chances,

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Speaker 2: but there were still some really other big, talented, impressive

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Speaker 2: names on the list.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, good news.

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Speaker 2: Former Steelers defensive lineman Else Greenwood is one of the

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Speaker 2: three candidates to become a fun finalist for the seniors

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Speaker 2: category for the Pro Football Hall of Fame class of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. The furthest else has ever advanced in

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Speaker 3: That's pretty cool. And at the time I thought we

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Speaker 3: said he would be one of our three.

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Speaker 4: He'd be one of our three. We gave some props

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Speaker 2: And Roger Craig, yes you know who the other I know,

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Speaker 2: Ken Anderson was one of them. I'm looking for, okay,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm sure people. Of course, I know they

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Speaker 3: can still find it. That interview with Labs is pretty

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Speaker 3: darn in depth of what elsee was, you know, to

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Speaker 3: a great seventies team, to the steel curtain, which was really,

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Speaker 4: But he's right, He's right. Curtain was the front four.

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Speaker 3: Right, like there's a banner of the you know, the

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Speaker 2: And over the years that gets convoluted in the entire

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Speaker 4: But yes, it was that front four.

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Speaker 2: And everybody that you talk to with the history the

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Speaker 3: Defensive front and they weren't. Everybody ran a four to

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Speaker 3: Ye yeah, I mean really good at rushing the passer.

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Speaker 3: And maybe even folks that watched the seventies Steeler didn't

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Speaker 4: Never rushed the passer, but a little bit in that regard,

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Speaker 2: Much more lauded and appreciated if he did what he

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, have a lot more sacks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, after quarterbacks, edge rushers are maybe the second

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Speaker 3: In the bottom of that where they go in drafts

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Speaker 3: and what they're their contracts correlate. I mean, they always

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Speaker 4: Player of the year, but much like quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Usually the guy that basically leads the league in sacks

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Speaker 4: Like once a decade you'll get a corner.

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Speaker 2: Once a decade you might get a Looke Keakley type

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Speaker 3: The edge donald. You know, once on yeah, an.

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Speaker 2: seven or eight out of ten years, it's an edge

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Speaker 2: is Roger Craig, Ken Anderson the other two to go

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Speaker 2: with else. So it's awesome that Elsie has made it

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Speaker 2: it's nice to see him advance to this point and

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Speaker 2: kind of continue that upward trajectory. Thirteen years as a Steeler,

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Speaker 2: all know. You know, had five fumble recoveries his very

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Speaker 2: Eight and a half sacks, career high eleven sacks in

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Speaker 3: Them double digit. Was a big deal in a run game.

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Speaker 2: They're only seventy eighteen twenty times a game. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: He has twelve and a half hunches of Steeler teams

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they were held out a little bit

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Speaker 4: That's tied for fifth most in the entire history of.

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Speaker 2: The National Football League. Still, wow, two times. First off,

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Speaker 3: That's when the playoffs are longer now, I mean, like

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Speaker 2: Played, right, more seeds, more rounds right right, right some

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Speaker 4: Good there. That was written by Teresa Varley and the

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Speaker 4: Steelers dot Com article. Big shout out to her for

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Speaker 4: having that one in there.

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Speaker 2: That's one that whoever has to stand up in front

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Speaker 3: It's still it's still holding up.

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Speaker 2: This guy played in an era with less playoff games

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean big deal.

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Speaker 2: And there is some weird stuff in there where like

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Speaker 3: Are on the old decade Team'll be quite a few

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Speaker 2: we'll get that final. Good piece of news, but great

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Speaker 2: to see him advancing as a finalist, and hopefully this

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Speaker 2: So remember how it works, you know, there's all these

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Speaker 2: to go in that group, they pick a contributor finalist,

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Speaker 2: they pick a coach finalist as well.

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Speaker 3: That was Robert Craft and Bill Belichick. I wonder like

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Speaker 3: Belichick's chance.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if they did that on purpose, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think Belichick has a pretty good chance.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll end up with.

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Speaker 2: I think he might be in the National Football Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame one day and can't And yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: Something that we promised you we would update you on.

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Speaker 3: Good news, honor in itself.

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Speaker 2: Total honor in itself, And now will wait and we'll

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Speaker 2: obviously revisit this discussion when we have final word.

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Speaker 3: One last thing I want to touch on this subject

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Speaker 3: is Anderson and Craig. I'm happy that they're the final

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Speaker 3: three in that I think they're the most deserving, but

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Speaker 3: it's Also, I'm not happy because that's the toughest competition

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Speaker 3: for LC. Absolutely kind of like one of those guys

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Speaker 3: But Kenny Anderson was very ahead of his time because

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Speaker 2: He was Bill Walsh's something before Montana, right. He was

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Speaker 2: Bill Walsh's date to the dance before he before.

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Speaker 2: Was his last date before he settled down, put a

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Speaker 2: ring on Joe.

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Speaker 2: Some divisional news. Yes, so let's let's get it all.

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Speaker 2: Lots of moving and shaking happening last night and today

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, I'm doing the hiccup thing again.

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Speaker 3: Just took a big swig of coffee and somebody I was.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any hiccup cures? You know, like there's like, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do it on camera, but this is

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Speaker 3: Yes, grabbed them off waivers, right, grabbed.

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Speaker 3: So the Vikings just let him go. And I'm certain

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Speaker 4: And they've got some. They've got a nice wide receiver room.

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Speaker 3: crafty dude. More slot than outside. I'm talking about his

442
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 3: best days, but i mean in two receiver sets, him

443
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 3: and you know Diggs would be the outside receivers of course,

444
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: but more slaught oriented, decent size. He's not huge now,

445
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 3: he doesn't run great anymore. He's not explosive any or.

446
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 4: I'd be surprised if a thirty five year old did.

447
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, but he knows exactly where to be. And

448
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 3: some of the issues that Rogers has had with receivers

449
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: this season of adjusting routes on the fly, reading coverages,

450
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 3: getting all the hand signals, well, he's gonna be one

451
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: thousand percent on those things, and there's no doubt about that.

452
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,719
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll be a good role model slash, you know,

453
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 3: influence in the wide receiver room because he's very fundamentally

454
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 3: and technically sound. I mean, he knows every trick of

455
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 3: the trade. And those guys tend to fade away slower,

456
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 3: you know, if you're just if you're only a size

457
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 3: speed guy, or if you're just based on speed, and

458
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you start aging and you you know,

459
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 3: rip up your ankle or whatever, and you don't have

460
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: it anymore. So he does have some of that old

461
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 3: man at the Y rebounder game to him, especially against zone.

462
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,640
Speaker 3: I think Man was going to give him a hard

463
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 3: time just getting off press at this level NFL corners.

464
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 3: But he's very smart about sitting down in zones. He's reliable.

465
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 3: He's gonna catch it if you throw it to him.

466
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 3: I haven't watched his twenty twenty five tape. I mean again,

467
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: he hasn't been on the field that much and I

468
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 3: had other things to do, clearly, but I am intrigued.

469
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 3: I mean, will he be active this week? I don't know.

470
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: I would think that's a long shot, but I want

471
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 3: to bring that up to Chris when we talked to

472
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 3: him later too. Yeah, you know, it's a snooper around

473
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 3: a little bit when we're down there, but it's kind

474
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 3: of like a reliable wood bee for Aaron Rodgers on

475
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 3: his forty second birthday. Here's your birthday present, you.

476
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, it's I think is it's about all you

477
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: can do at this moment. In December laid into this process,

478
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: trade deadline is you know, came on you know a

479
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: month ago. This is about it, and I think there's

480
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: you know, they tried this a few weeks ago with

481
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 2: with MVS with Marquez Valdez scaling.

482
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 3: Is he still in the fresh squad?

483
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 4: I believe he is, so yeah, I believe he.

484
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 3: Is similar type. I was gonna bring that up, but

485
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 3: I can add myself he's still wrong.

486
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 2: So I think there's some tea leaves to be read

487
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: there of like if they would have liked what they

488
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 2: saw from him in practice over the last couple of weeks,

489
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: maybe he'd be getting elevated or getting an opportunity it

490
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: go out and try again with somebody else.

491
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 3: You know. I think there's something we said for both

492
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: those guys being experienced receivers that know how to win

493
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: in this league, and we'll be on the same page

494
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 3: with Rogers, and I don't think it's been a huge problem.

495
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: I don't think he's like mad at Austin or Wilson

496
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 3: or etc. That they're dumb they can't get it or

497
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: anything like that. But I also think their lack of

498
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 3: size is not helping matters, having both those dudes being

499
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 3: smaller guys, because Deelan's always played bigger than he's listed.

500
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: Bout As Scantling is a six three sixty four type dude.

501
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know if he the one

502
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: will even ever see the field or not, but I

503
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 3: would like Theland's chances more than Voutez Scantlings, I would say.

504
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: I agree, I think, especially the way that kind of

505
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 2: this timeline has has played out out here.

506
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it would just with like think of Scanley

507
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: if he was if they were.

508
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 2: Excited about him, they would be you know, maybe bumping

509
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 2: him up to the active roster or not going out

510
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: at least and trying to sign another wide receiver to

511
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 2: practice squad.

512
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 3: I mean then is way more surehanded. Yes, yes, so

513
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 3: why not you know, again, you've nothing invested in it.

514
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, it doesn't cost you much.

515
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say like it's a low risk high reward,

516
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: but it's a low risk some reward.

517
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he might catch passes for you.

518
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 4: Like Asante Samuel Junior. Feels like a low risk, high reward.

519
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, he may.

520
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 4: He could.

521
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: He could start for the next three four, four years,

522
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: five years if this goes well. Whereas hey, you're hoping

523
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: to just maybe get some last juice to squeeze out

524
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: of out of adam feeling of a veteran wide receiver

525
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: who's done it at a high level for a long

526
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: time in this league.

527
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 3: And I don't think it's any secret. I mean, they

528
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: can't be thrilled with the receiver room right now.

529
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so, wouldn't wouldn't think so.

530
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 4: So, yeah, those are all kind.

531
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: Of it all makes sense to me.

532
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 4: Things that will things that will continue to keep an eye.

533
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: On with Kent. I'm intrigued with him too. Dante Kent.

534
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, So that's what I was getting to here,

535
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: right he as of today, this was uh, this was

536
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 2: posted by the Steelers a little after one o'clock today.

537
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 2: Cornerback Dante Kent return to practice. He will remain on

538
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: the reserve injured list designated for return, activating that twenty

539
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: one day window for the remainder.

540
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 4: Of the season.

541
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: He was placed on the reserve injured list all the

542
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: way back on August twenty eighth, of course, was the Steelers.

543
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, any preseason.

544
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: He I was going to say, I think he played.

545
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: He played a little bit of play. Yeah, yeah, I

546
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 3: think he August would definitely.

547
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: Late August, so I think so. I think he did.

548
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: And you know, he was a guy that I think

549
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: they were pressed by what they saw at training camp.

550
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, like he was getting a lot of spin, a lot.

551
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: Of opportunities, talking about and more talking about him more

552
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: and more.

553
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: He's involved in special team stuff, he's involved in defensive stuff. Yeah,

554
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: he's a seventh round pick. But they seem to be

555
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: giving this guy plenty on his plate for a seventh

556
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: round rookie and see how he can handle it. So

557
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: now he's back to practice. Good news there. Who knows

558
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: what that means for him the rest of the season.

559
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: My hunches, you'll never see an NFL field this year.

560
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: But if you can at least get three weeks of

561
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: practice for him before the end of the year, great,

562
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: Or if.

563
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 3: Someone gets hurt between now and then and they did

564
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: just move on from Sleigh, I mean they're they're definitely

565
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 3: looking for special teamers and maybe in two three weeks

566
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: they'll need him. I'll be honest. The second they drafted him,

567
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 3: I had never heard of him. And that happens in

568
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 3: the seventh round, you know. Yeah, and then the more

569
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: homework after the draft, I was impressed. He was a

570
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 3: really good tester, ran a really good forty. He's not

571
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 3: particularly big or thick, but he can play some outside

572
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 3: corner at least at the college level, and projects too.

573
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: But I would think he's more of a slot, sort

574
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: of an undersized slot.

575
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: And that's how they were using him during the camp

576
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 2: and the very very little that we saw.

577
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: I mean, he has some pump return. He mentioned special team.

578
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 3: He has some pump return, and certainly it has real

579
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: gunner qualifications. I mean, I think that might be where

580
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: his bread is buttered in this league, you know, like

581
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: how Pierre started something like that. But again, I mean

582
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: when we got to camp, there's always five or six

583
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: guys whose name you just start saying more and more

584
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: when you're watching practice from the booth or whatever. And

585
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 3: he was one of them. And when I remember he

586
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 3: got hurt, he was on my Well, I'm glad he'll

587
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: be in Latrobe next year.

588
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 4: Conversation might work out well longer term. Yeah, frustrating, it is, right.

589
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: Right, because I didn't know if he could even make

590
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: the team on the roster.

591
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: You and I have that conversation.

592
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: We'd have it with Dale, always with Modes whoever, like

593
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: we all have this conversation of Okay, who's probably not

594
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: going to make the team, but you hope they're back

595
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 2: here in Latrobe.

596
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 4: Again next year. I'd love to see next year and

597
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: he was one of those guys.

598
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe he's even going to be accelerated from.

599
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: That, absolutely absolutely, and you would take that. You would

600
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: take that all day. You need be be thrilled with that,

601
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 2: I think.

602
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: In fact. And so yeah, maybe he's got a chance

603
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: to be part of the final roster next year.

604
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 2: Maybe exactly right, But you should be a win, exactly right,

605
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: to be a big win I think absolutely for a

606
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: seventh round pick and a good news that he's back

607
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 2: at practice and uh, and we'll at least have three

608
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: weeks here to uh to start to get acclimated and

609
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: acquainted with with his teammates once again.

610
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,880
Speaker 3: It means he's healthy. Oh, by the way, his recoveries

611
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: must be.

612
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: Going well, exactly right, exactly right.

613
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 3: Everyone just assumes these guys all recover the same and

614
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: they're fine, and you know.

615
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 4: That's hey, no, there's no doubt.

616
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: That's why there's that's why we talk about injury setbacks

617
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: and things of that nature all the time. Right, Matt,

618
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: Let's get to our final break of the first hour here.

619
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Sean Watson's window got open.

620
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 4: Oh that's right. I think there was something.

621
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: I was forgetting. I don't know what to make of that,

622
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: but I mean even at the beginning of the year,

623
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: people told me there's a chance he sees the field.

624
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: You know, I thought Flacco picket the two. Yeah, I mean,

625
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 3: like as if it wasn't crowded enough. When when the

626
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 3: season broke, a Flacco picket in both draft picks, and

627
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: Watson is, Oh, by the way, this massive elephant in

628
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: the room that's making a bazillion dollars. But like ten

629
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 3: minutes ago they opened up his practice window. I have

630
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 3: no clue what to make of that, but I thought

631
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 3: it was noteworthy.

632
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,719
Speaker 4: I certainly think it is.

633
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: I thought he may never throw football again.

634
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

635
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah what, I don't know what to make of it either, right,

636
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: I mean he like I do feel like I remember

637
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: back in July or August or sometime in that training

638
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: camp timeframe where I almost said dante quet, where Deshaun

639
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 2: Watson was like, I want to play football again.

640
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 4: I want to play football this year. Yeah, Like, I

641
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: feel like I remember him saying that.

642
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: But it was kind of like I thought so, and

643
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, does anybody want you to play?

644
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: They just drafted two quarterbacks Kenny Pickett, and they've still

645
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: got Joe Flacco around.

646
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 4: Well, all of a sudden, now Picket's gone, Flaco's gone.

647
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah.

648
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's kind of the onus for him, is

649
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: like if I can get out here for the last

650
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: couple of games and maybe that gives me something going

651
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: in the future.

652
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: I don't know. Maybe Cleveland want to see him in

653
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 4: the last couple of games.

654
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: Maybe they're hoping he looks phenomenal, looks like the Texans

655
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: version and there there it ends up being a good trade,

656
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: As I snicker to myself, you know, yeah, but I

657
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 3: thought that was very noteworthy.

658
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: Maybe it'll elevate is not being the worst trade in

659
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: NFL history.

660
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Speaker 3: I thought he might even get to the point like,

661
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Speaker 3: you're not invited to the facility. I mean, he must

662
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Speaker 3: have been sitting in a quarterback meeting room all year

663
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Speaker 3: possibly whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly.

665
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Speaker 2: So that's another thing that we'll keep an eye on,

666
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Speaker 2: especially with the Browns on the docket a few weeks

667
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: from now.

668
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Speaker 4: Oh wow, could we see DeShawn.

669
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Speaker 2: Out there in the cold December weather at Huntington Bank

670
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Speaker 2: Fields Stadium in a few weeks. We shall wait and

671
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: we shall see. I guess that's actually that's the weekend

672
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Speaker 2: after Christmas, so that's still it four weeks away in

673
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: the middle of that window.

674
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Speaker 3: If you were to get activated, Yeah, he could be

675
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 3: on field.

676
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: Oo, that would be that.

677
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: Would be surprising to say, to say the least. Let's

678
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Speaker 2: take our last break here of the first hour and

679
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: we return on the other side. We kind of mentioned

680
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: that we would do this yesterday, just didn't have time

681
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: to get to it. Let's talk some playoff scenarios AFC

682
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 2: across the NFC and specifically for the Steelers and the

683
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: Ravens this Sunday, Baltimore away there at M and T

684
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Speaker 2: Banks Stadium. We'll do all that when we return to

685
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Speaker 2: wrap up the first hour of the show. West Shuler,

686
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson, It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on

687
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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

688
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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

689
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Down the homestre of the first hour, and it's time

691
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Speaker 2: to talk some NFL playoff scenarios. The NFL playoff picture

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Speaker 2: here entering week fourteen. Wow, week fourteen already, I know,

693
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: you know, has anyone ever said this? But it's like

694
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: it's really like the road is narrowing right about now

695
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: that Has that ever been said before?

696
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: Has anyone said this? Have you heard this? Have you

697
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: heard about this?

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00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 3: And this other thingeople say all the time too? Is

699
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: like the league in covering the league and being in

700
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: the league is a grind. But we're talking about Latrobe

701
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: that felt like five minutes ago, you know what I mean?

702
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: So I do agree with you, but it's it's a

703
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: weird dichotomy, maybe is the word.

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00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: I'm looking like.

705
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: The Jets game feels like one hundred years ago.

706
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: In a lot of ways, Latrobe and the Jets game

707
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 2: feel like yesterday, and a lot of ways they feel

708
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 2: like five years ago.

709
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: It's a very weird.

710
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure you can relate to this as like like

711
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: being a father of two children. Yeah, yeah, Like my

712
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: daughters are now like four and a half and two

713
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: and a half, and in some ways it feels like

714
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: they were born yesterday. In some ways it feels like

715
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: they were born twenty years ago.

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Speaker 3: Oh like a thousand per man. I was a much

717
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: younger man when my college freshman right to making news.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, so Matt's son freshman at the university.

719
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're on Twitter, so it's not like it's a

720
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Speaker 3: big secret. Right.

721
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:21,239
Speaker 2: Got to take a couple half court shots yesterday at

722
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: the Kentucky UNC game. It's a don of twenty thousand people, yes,

723
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: famous rupp Arena, uh for a half court shot for

724
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars, and he actually got pretty close.

725
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Speaker 3: He did.

726
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: He got pretty close. Man.

727
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Speaker 3: I don't know how he got picked.

728
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Speaker 4: But it was story we need to find out.

729
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Speaker 3: He was thrilled just to go to the game as

730
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Speaker 3: his first ever Kentucky game and they're playing UNC.

731
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,479
Speaker 4: It's like twenty match incredible.

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right, So he's texting me as he's walking

733
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Speaker 3: in and I guess Rapp Aerna's put a lot of

734
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: money into it, so I mean, like it's it's He's like,

735
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Speaker 3: it's the nicest arena I've ever been in. And he's

736
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Speaker 3: like this, I'm gonna be the biggest Kentucky hoop fan ever.

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Speaker 3: In football, they're not.

738
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Speaker 2: Sure, they're not much, but basketball, I mean they are, yes,

739
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: amongst royalty.

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Speaker 3: Them and they've already lost three games on they lost

741
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Speaker 3: to UNC Michigan State, which I heard about from pursuit,

742
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 3: and Louisville is a huge back. But they're all like

743
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 3: top twenty teams. Yeah, but they're like burning couches and

744
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: bad things in a bad way, right because they've already

745
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: lost three games. But anyway, so he was super psyched

746
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Speaker 3: to goes his first ever alma mater college games. Awesome,

747
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: and he would have went other times, but he was

748
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 3: it's not against.

749
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: Like, it's not against some Bimigi state, with all due

750
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: respect to Bimigie State, It's against the part I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

752
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: I mean a big time Texas and Ohio State and football.

753
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: And she watched it. They kept calling it a blue

754
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: blood game. Yeah right, yeah, I was there, you know.

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00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 4: Yeah right, that's Michigan and Oklahoma. I mean that's like.

756
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: Packed to the gills, right, So yeah, it's like Dick

757
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: Vitale called the game, you know.

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00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 4: Right.

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00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: So he's just texting me as he's you know, as

760
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: a start and as he's going in, how psyched he is.

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00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 3: This is better than I thought, Dad, Kentucky hoops forever,

762
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 3: I'm in. I'm in. And then he texted me, like,

763
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 3: you know, very shortly after he's like, oh, and I

764
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: think I'm going to shoot a half court shot at

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Speaker 3: for ten grand at halftime or you know, so it

766
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: wasn't halftime as before or whatever. I'm like, he's lying.

767
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: He was just like lol or whatever. That's hilarious. And

768
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Speaker 3: he never really wrote back and then sends a video

769
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Speaker 3: of him doing it. Yeah, and he did pretty well.

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Speaker 3: He did, Yeah, yeah, he did much better.

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Speaker 4: I would have been bricking it, man.

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Speaker 3: I was great, but I would have made it. I

773
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 3: would have got three shots.

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Speaker 2: I would have hit the poor popcorn vendor like way

775
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: off on the in the left corner or something.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't even have been close.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked they gave you three shots for ten grand.

778
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: That's pretty down on how he got pulled out of

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00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 3: the student section.

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00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 4: But the start, we have to hear that's yeah, awesome though,

781
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 4: that's so cool.

782
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: So the first two videos or were his buddy's filming

783
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 3: it from there sea Yeah, and then I guess somebody

784
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 3: for Kentucky filmed like him walking on the court. Cheerleader

785
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: gives him a ball and he's doing a lot of this.

786
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 3: You know, he's wound up right. Air ball is the

787
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: first one. Second one was like as close as you

788
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: could get to knockout.

789
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: It was about as close as you can rattling around,

790
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: rattling around.

791
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then then the second one. The third one

792
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: was an airball too, but they weren't like bad.

793
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 4: Air balls, No, they weren't. They were airballs that were

794
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: like six inches away from the rim.

795
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: Ye yeah. Like, and he's six five, but he never

796
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: he played a lot of pickup hoops, like I did,

797
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 3: you know, But it was.

798
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Speaker 2: Pretty cool, and hey, it's amazing it would have been

799
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: for him to win the ten grand obviously, pretty pretty

800
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 2: step and awesome story first ever college game, right.

801
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: Right, right, Yeah, that's pretty cool deal. Very yeah. I

802
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: threw it out on Twitter and I also put it

803
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 3: on Facebook too.

804
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: But you know, I like how he's all in for

805
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: Kentucky hoops. Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be give him, give

806
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: him a few years. He's gonna be a sickoh like

807
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 2: like Mike Pursuit and I just walking around talking about

808
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: his alma mater all the time.

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00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure I think he is not with hoops. I mean,

810
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 3: how could you not be totally wrapped into that.

811
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: It's awesome.

812
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll get big into Kentucky baseball, because I think

813
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: they're pretty already stinking good as well.

814
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: Matt.

815
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 4: Let's talk some NFL playoff pictures here. The road is narrowing.

816
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 3: Week fourteen is a huge game.

817
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 2: Thursday is a massive, massive the Battle of Texas right now.

818
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: Thursday is Dallas at Detroit, or.

819
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 4: Sorry, Dallas at Detroit is Thursday.

820
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, because the other one is Houston.

821
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 4: The other one in Houston Kansas City.

822
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 3: And they're almost the same deal. Like, if Dallas or

823
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: Kansas City loses, it's basically done for them and the

824
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 3: other ones. It gets real tight if you lose that game. Yes,

825
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: Texas teams, yes, it does. No, got me confused, Detroit

826
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: or Huge Detroit. Yes, but they have massive ramifications and

827
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: obviously Steelers Ravens does too, but for different reasons. That's

828
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: more for the division as opposed to conference implications.

829
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 2: So let's start with the AFC slate, since that's the

830
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: Steelers and that's the Ravens, and that's where we're at,

831
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: and that's where the high leverage affairs are on tap

832
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: for this Sunday this week fourteen, Steelers at Ravens, Right

833
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: the number nine seed in the AFC currently against the

834
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: number four seed, ninety two percentage points combined leverage in

835
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: terms of how it affects their probability ninety two percent

836
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 2: swing in this.

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00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: One wow win or loss, win or loss.

838
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: Ninety two percent point swing combined for playoff odds. Texans

839
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: number eight seed at Chiefs number ten seed, seventy five

840
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: point swing there, and then Jags.

841
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: Three host's chances if they win.

842
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: I love Houston's chances.

843
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 3: I think they might be the best team in the

844
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 3: AFC range.

845
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 2: They could at least certainly be the hottest Jags number

846
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: three seed, Jags at number six seed, Colts fifty two percent,

847
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: fifty two point swing in.

848
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: That might be the first of two with them, like

849
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: the Steelers Ravens, because I get what you, Yeah, I

850
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: think I'm not sure if they've played yet, they might

851
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: have two.

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00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: And Colts I believe have two more still I think,

853
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: so yeah, still still to come out.

854
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: They no Bears, Packers do Texas.

855
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: They both played the Texans already once, but I don't

856
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: think i've played each other got yet once if I'm

857
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: if I'm remembering correctly here. So right now, Patriots are

858
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: on their bye week, so they're not really factored into this,

859
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 2: but they have a greater than ninety nine percent chance

860
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs.

861
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, boy, wouldn't advantage now to have those late bots unbelievable.

862
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 2: Unbelievable and a thirty six percent chance to be the

863
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 2: one seed Broncos. Broncos also greater than ninety nine percent

864
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs.

865
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're basically in uh.

866
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: Forty eight percent chance to make the one seed even

867
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: if they lose. They still have a ninety six percent

868
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs even if they were to

869
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: lose this week. So for the Patriots and the Broncos,

870
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 2: it's really just one seed they'll.

871
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: Start battling for. Yeah, they'll lock up a division probably

872
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 3: here in a couple of weeks.

873
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: Yes, the Jags are the three seed right now in

874
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: the AFC at eight and four, and with some tie breakers,

875
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: they have a seventy nine percent chance to make the playoffs.

876
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: If if they beat the Colts, that number rises up

877
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: above ninety five percent.

878
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 3: Say that has to really skyrocket.

879
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: If they lose, it only falls to sixty seven percent.

880
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: I knew they were still in pretty decent shape with

881
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: the loss. They've put a lot of money in the bank.

882
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 3: They think they have a lot of AFC wins.

883
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: They've got some good tie breaking. Yeah, they're kind of

884
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: the opposite of the Chiefs in that regard. They've got

885
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: so important, so important, and they've they've got that going

886
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: for him. So the Jags are in a good spot.

887
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: Especially if they win, they're in a great spot. But

888
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: even if they lose, they've still got a strong opportunity

889
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: to go to the postseason.

890
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 3: That's something I tend to bring up early in the

891
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: year that people don't think about or people will even

892
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: tweet me sometimes to be like a loss of a

893
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: lost Williamson, Like when the Steelers lost the Seattle I'm like,

894
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: it's not as bad a loss you think, folks, you know,

895
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: like losing to a conference.

896
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: You said that like way back when everyone's saying that now,

897
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: But you said that way back when.

898
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: You have to think about those things in September too.

899
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 3: They all mean the same. But I mean, you lose

900
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: a conference game, it hurts you. I mean everyone knows

901
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: the division loss hurts you bad. But losing to an

902
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: NFC team isn't that big a deal.

903
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: Like you would have much rather beaten the Bills than

904
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: the Bear, Like if you could have.

905
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: One thiose are Bengals rather than.

906
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 4: If you could have one of the two games. Yeah, yeah, like.

907
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: You'd much rather have those back than than Chicago and

908
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 2: Green Bay. And that's just the nature of the tiebreaker scenario.

909
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 3: Like beating the Colts was really beneficial.

910
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: Yeset know right, Yes, Ravens at six and six, they

911
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: are the four seed currently a sixty nine percent chance

912
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs.

913
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 4: You see the massive swing here.

914
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 2: If they win on Sunday against the Steelers, that goes

915
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: up to eighty four percent. If they lose, it drops

916
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: all the way down to thirty eight percent.

917
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: So the one thing I saw today that that kind

918
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 3: of stat pack that the NFL sends out. I steal

919
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: a little bit from there for Matt's stats, but it's

920
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: like it's a game preview I didn't realize. And you

921
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: know how I like strength the schedule more for like

922
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 3: the Warren Sharp way of looking at it and win totals.

923
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: But if you look at the Steelers schedule just in

924
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 3: terms of winning percentage against the Raven schedule, the Raven

925
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: schedule is much much harder in terms of current records

926
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 3: of upcoming opponents.

927
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: They still have to play, I can't they still have

928
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: to play Green Bay and New England. One of those

929
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: is on the road. I forget which one. I think

930
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 2: maybe they host green Bay and go to New England.

931
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: But the Packers are going to be desperately jockeying for

932
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: playoff spots. Yeah, the Patriots, while that one's towards the

933
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: end of the year, they're gonna be in the hunt

934
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: for the number one overall.

935
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 4: Seat in a bye.

936
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's not an easy You look at

937
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: the Steelers schedule and it's tough the rest of the way,

938
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: But it's the same.

939
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: Like the record. Yes, Detroit's not playing great, no, you know,

940
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: and they could lose Thursday.

941
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 2: Like that Detroit game looked incredibly daunting at the beginning

942
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: of the Yeah, and I'm not saying it looks easy

943
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: or anything like that.

944
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 3: Now the Steelers be a dog.

945
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: The Steelers would be a dog, but it's not as

946
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: daunting as it looked in August or September, whereas.

947
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 4: Miami's gone the opposite way.

948
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: That looked like an easy win and now it seems

949
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be a tough one against a team

950
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: who I mean, other than the Texans might be playing

951
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 2: as well as anybody in the AFC right now.

952
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 4: And those maybe Patriots and Broncos too.

953
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: The reason I bring it up is if the Steelers

954
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: lose Sunday but win the other one against the Ravens,

955
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 3: the games in between might favor Pittsburgh more than Baltin. Yeah.

956
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 4: You know, good point, very good point.

957
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: If either one of these teams sweeps the series.

958
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 4: It'll almost sc Yeah.

959
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: Chargers of the five seed, currently a sixty one percent

960
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs. If they win on Sunday,

961
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: it goes up to seventy six. If they lose, it

962
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: drops to fifty percent. The Colt's sixth seed eight and

963
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: four seventy two percent chance to make the playoffs right now.

964
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: This is a you know, that big swing with Jacksonville

965
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: goes all the way up to eighty six percent chance

966
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: if they win and beat the Jags at home, only

967
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 2: drops to fifty five if they lose.

968
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be a little startay, a little concerned tho

969
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: if I'm Colts and Chargers, actually Chargers.

970
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little bit better with the Chiefs, feeling

971
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 2: like they could go by the way side because there's

972
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: a chance I think that of like the Chargers part

973
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: of me, the Colts, the Jags, and Houston, all three

974
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 2: can make the playoffs. I still think that's a real

975
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: I think that's a real possibility. And then the Bills

976
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: are your other wild card team unless somehow.

977
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: Maybe only one out of the West. Yeah, I don't

978
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: think that's crazy talk, qpecially if the Chiefs lose this week.

979
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right, So again we'll see. But then

980
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo seven seed, but they currently have a ninety but

981
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: they have the.

982
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: Third best odds going.

983
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: They have the third best odds in the AFC to

984
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, behind the Patriots and the Broncos. If

985
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: they win this week, it goes all the way up

986
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: to ninety six percent. If they lose, still seventy nine percent.

987
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: I think Buffalo's going.

988
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

989
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: Now here's where it really gets interesting for the bubble teams.

990
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: The eight seed Houston Texans currently at seven and five.

991
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: If they were to win, sixty three percent chance to

992
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 2: make the playoffs or sorry, part of me right now,

993
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: sixty three percent chances to.

994
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 4: Make the playoffs.

995
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 3: I'd say win. I would thought would have been higher.

996
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: If they win, Matt it's an eighty five percent chance.

997
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: If they could take care of business at the Chiefs

998
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: because they I think part of that is eliminating.

999
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: The Chiefs from the That's a huge part of eighty.

1000
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: Five percent chance to make the playoffs. If they lose

1001
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: forty nine percent about fifty.

1002
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: Fifty, they're compete with four teams instead of five. Yes,

1003
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 3: with a win, but they started owing three, you.

1004
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 2: Know, impressive, and they lost CJ. Stroud for multiple games

1005
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: of this winning streak, this hot streak. Steelers the nine

1006
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 2: seed currently thirty one percent chance to make the playoffs.

1007
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: If they win, that number goes all the way up

1008
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: to sixty two percent. If they lose, it falls all

1009
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 2: the way to fifteen percent.

1010
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow.

1011
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: And then finally, the Kansas City Chiefs, the ten seed

1012
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: right now in the AFC, currently a thirty five percent

1013
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: chance to make the playoffs, which is wild to me

1014
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: that they have a better chance right now than the

1015
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: Steelers because there's no way they're winning their division.

1016
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 4: But whatever.

1017
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, if the Chiefs win, forty nine percent chance to

1018
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, if they lose just eleven percent chance

1019
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: to make the post seeds.

1020
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: Do you agree that only one team's coming out of

1021
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 3: the North. Yes, yeah, I think that.

1022
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 4: I'm almost like willing to write that in blood.

1023
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's pretty clear right now that.

1024
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: That that there's just going to be one team in

1025
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: the North, and I think there's going to certainly be

1026
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: two in the AAC West or East part of Ye.

1027
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 4: Yes, for sure, New England, Buffalo.

1028
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: And I think there's at least two in the South

1029
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: at least.

1030
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least but yeah, and if then so then

1031
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: it comes down to the Chargers versus the third place

1032
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 2: team in the South.

1033
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: It feels like HM for that final wild card spot and.

1034
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: Less Kansas City goes crazy and.

1035
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: Less Kansas City, which could certainly have good but they

1036
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 2: need they need to start with a victory against the

1037
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: tech of the hot Houston Texans this week and go

1038
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: from there. Matt, first hour in the books. When we

1039
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: come back to start our number two, you want to

1040
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: take a look at the NFC playoff picture. Is that

1041
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: all right with you?

1042
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: Sure? There's some cool stuff there too. The North is wacky.

1043
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: It's our number two. We're gonna do that.

1044
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: We're gonna do around campus and we're gonna talk to

1045
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: our buddy Chris Hallick.

1046
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: So plenty to get to in the back half of

1047
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 4: the show.

1048
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,480
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1049
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