WEBVTT - Rats Fleeing the Ship: Debate Aftermath & Democrat PANIC

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>It is verdict with Sentater Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with

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<v Speaker 2>you as well, Senator. The debate fallout is continuing. You

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was a bad night on debate night, It's

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<v Speaker 2>gotten a lot worse for the president.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gotten much much worse. The debate heard round the world.

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<v Speaker 3>We recorded a special podcast the night of the debate.

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<v Speaker 3>Within an hour of it concluding, we put it out.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, if you didn't hear our analysis that

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<v Speaker 3>occurred Thursday night, you should go back and listen.

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<v Speaker 4>It was Friday's podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>It was one of the most downloaded pods we've ever

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<v Speaker 3>done because it was immediate analysis of what's happened. We're

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<v Speaker 3>now sitting there a few days later, and a few

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<v Speaker 3>days later, the fallout continues to be massive. I said

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<v Speaker 3>the night of the debate, this is the most consequential

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<v Speaker 3>presidential debate in United States history. I still believe that.

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<v Speaker 3>This weekend, I talked to President Trump. I gave him

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<v Speaker 3>a call. I told him he did a phenomenal job

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<v Speaker 3>on the debate. I told I thought it was his

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<v Speaker 3>best debate performance he's ever done. He and I have

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<v Speaker 3>stood on many of those debate stages together and so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm intimately familiar with how President Trump debates, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think he was as I told him this weekend. He

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<v Speaker 3>was calm, he was measured, he was under control, and

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<v Speaker 3>most importantly, he let Joe Biden talk and hang himself,

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<v Speaker 3>because the greatest damage that was done was when Biden

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<v Speaker 3>was talking and his brain was short circuiting, and the

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<v Speaker 3>entire world saw that. On Thursday night, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>break down the fallout and what's coming next. We're also

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about the landmark Supreme Court decision that

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<v Speaker 3>came down last week overruling what's called the Chevron doctrine.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a big victory for the Constitution, this is

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<v Speaker 3>a big victory for democracy. So of course left wingers

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<v Speaker 3>their teeth.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to explain it all.

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<v Speaker 2>million people that have asked me this question when I've

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<v Speaker 2>had conversations on the phone with Donald Trump. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to ask you the same question that everyone asked me.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you get in touch with Donald Trump when

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<v Speaker 2>you're the one calling him? How does that work? And

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<v Speaker 2>then do you get him right away? So I call

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<v Speaker 2>his phone and it varies. Sometimes sometimes he answers, other

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<v Speaker 2>times he doesn't, and he usually calls me back. In

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<v Speaker 2>this instance, he didn't answer, and he called me back

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty minutes later. And so when he calls you back, like,

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<v Speaker 2>how does it work? Is it talking like to a

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<v Speaker 2>friend or is it more formal?

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<v Speaker 1>What's that?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Look, I mean President Trump and I have

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<v Speaker 3>been through a lot of battles together, uh, initially on

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<v Speaker 3>on opposite sides and then for a lot of years

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<v Speaker 3>side by side when he was president I was by

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<v Speaker 3>far his strongest ally in the US Senate all four

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<v Speaker 3>years of his presidency. And and so he and I

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<v Speaker 3>talk regularly, but just after this debate, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>call and tell him I thought he did really a

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<v Speaker 3>terrific job. And and and and as I said, it's

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<v Speaker 3>the best I've seen him. Because he was measured in

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<v Speaker 3>in control. He didn't he didn't let Biden bait him excessively.

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<v Speaker 3>Biden was trying to bate him, and he didn't. He

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<v Speaker 3>didn't take the bait. And and in particular, he gave

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<v Speaker 3>Biden airtime. That's not ant natural instinct for President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>He he he likes to fill up the oxygen. But

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<v Speaker 3>what needed to happen is for people to see just

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<v Speaker 3>how diminish Joe Biden was. And the only way to

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<v Speaker 3>do that is to keep your mouth shut and force

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<v Speaker 3>Biden to talk. Ironically, the thing that really hammered Biden

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<v Speaker 3>was the thing he and his team insisted upon, which

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<v Speaker 3>is the microphones being shut off when the other person

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<v Speaker 3>was talking. That meant that neither candidate had an incentive

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<v Speaker 3>or temptation to interrupt because their mic was off, And

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<v Speaker 3>so it wouldn't be hurt if they did try to

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<v Speaker 3>interrupt that ended up leaving Joe Biden alone on a

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<v Speaker 3>sinking ship because the only thing that could rescue him

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<v Speaker 3>was his own words. And we saw multiple times where

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<v Speaker 3>he just got completely confused and lost and didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>what he was saying. And you could see it on

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<v Speaker 3>the expression of the moderators of Jake Tapper and Dana Bash.

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<v Speaker 3>They both looked with complete horror at just how much

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden was crashing and burning.

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<v Speaker 2>What was President Trump's just reaction to Biden. Did he

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<v Speaker 2>even think it would go this well for him or

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<v Speaker 2>really this bad for Joe Biden? Was he is as

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<v Speaker 2>much shocked as I think everyone else that was watching.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, I don't want to share what he said

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<v Speaker 3>just because conversations I have with President Trump. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to respect what he said. I'll share what I said, though,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that I'm concerned that the debate went so

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<v Speaker 3>well that they're going to yank Biden from the ballot.

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<v Speaker 3>And I repeated to him what I said on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>which is that this will be the most consequential debate

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<v Speaker 3>in American history if it ends up changing the names

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<v Speaker 3>on the ballot, if it ends up forcing the Democrat

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<v Speaker 3>Party to pull the plug on Biden and replace him.

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<v Speaker 3>And as I've said multiple times, going back to nine

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<v Speaker 3>months ago, I predicted they would pull pull Biden out

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<v Speaker 3>and replace him with Michelle Obama. I think that will

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<v Speaker 3>happen in the next three weeks. I think we have

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<v Speaker 3>a short fuse on that happening.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got a million questions on that, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been getting them on social You may have been seeing

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<v Speaker 2>some of the same questions. Democrats say that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is a threat to democracy, that the Republican Party is

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<v Speaker 2>a threat to democracy, that they're the people that care

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<v Speaker 2>about democracy. How would they justify pulling Biden, replacing them

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<v Speaker 2>with a him, with a candidate that no one voted

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<v Speaker 2>for in an election cycle, and then said, here it is,

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<v Speaker 2>how is that democracy? And it's a fair question. I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of Americans are asking right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, listen, at the end of the day. Under their rules,

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<v Speaker 3>each party selects their nominee, and they have provisions if

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<v Speaker 3>a nominee is incapacitated. Look, if either Donald Trump or

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden fell over dead tomorrow, it's not like the

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<v Speaker 3>Republican or Democrat Party would say Okay, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have a presidential nominee. Never mind, you replace someone,

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<v Speaker 3>and that happens. It has not happened with presidential candidates,

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<v Speaker 3>but it happens sometimes with congressional candidates, sometimes with senate

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<v Speaker 3>candidates or House candidate. It's where people have either they

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<v Speaker 3>die or or they have health issues that prevent them

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<v Speaker 3>from running and and and so the natural way for

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrats to do this would be with Joe Biden's cooperation,

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<v Speaker 3>that he comes forward and says, you know, my health

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<v Speaker 3>has deteriorated such that I'm no longer able to be

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<v Speaker 3>a candidate.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I could when when we launch the campaign,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm no longer physically able to be a candidate

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<v Speaker 3>for four more years. And in that instance, uh, I

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<v Speaker 3>think we would see the Democrats replacing him.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>The exact procedure is complicated, and it's much more complicated

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<v Speaker 3>if Biden is not willing. If he's not willing, it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes practically impossible. And so a critical critical piece of

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<v Speaker 3>this is can the graybeards of the Democrat Party collectively

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<v Speaker 3>pressure him to say enough is enough?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they certainly don't seem to be leaning towards him

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<v Speaker 2>dropping out. They've been doubling down. They had their event

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<v Speaker 2>after that night of the debate, and the next day

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<v Speaker 2>they had another event, and they're trying to get him

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<v Speaker 2>out there looking like everything's fine and quote, he just

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<v Speaker 2>had a cold. That was one of the parts that

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<v Speaker 2>made me laugh was how they're like, well, we had a cold,

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<v Speaker 2>he had a cold. Well, this was just because he

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<v Speaker 2>had a cold. I don't think that helps him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>People will believe that it was a cold that caused

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<v Speaker 2>him to have a terrible night. It's insulting, I think

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<v Speaker 2>too many voters. I actually think that can make it

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<v Speaker 2>even worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and the White House spin was, well, he's usually

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<v Speaker 3>lucid between ten am and four pm, and so we've

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<v Speaker 3>just learned to do any White House meetings during those

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<v Speaker 3>hours because that's when his brain operates. And you think

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<v Speaker 3>about that as their explanation, and you're going, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that's good. Maybe putin and she, but before launching a

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<v Speaker 3>military attack, maybe a terrorist, before murdering America. NS will

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<v Speaker 3>be sure to do it between ten am and four pm,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, if you do after Luby's is closed,

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<v Speaker 3>after the Jello at the cafeteria. I'm afraid the Commander

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<v Speaker 3>in chief is just not there and not able to

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<v Speaker 3>handle it like that is a terrifying statement, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is from the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>So the only way that this goes smoothly, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a great point of clarification, is if

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden willingly said an sence, Hey, I'm gonna step aside.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no medication he's going to do that. So far,

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<v Speaker 2>based on what the White House and what Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>and the First Lady are doing, they're wanting to squash

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<v Speaker 2>this instantly. We also got a tweet, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned in the last pod, but Barack Obama finally

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<v Speaker 2>came out and said, hey, he's our guy. Here's his website,

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<v Speaker 2>basically almost twenty four hours after the disaster of the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>You can read into that what you want. But if

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden and Joe Biden say we ain't going anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>then the Democratic Party in essences has their hands tied

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Well maybe maybe not so look at the debate

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<v Speaker 3>that is playing out real time. So Barack Obama jumped

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<v Speaker 3>out pretty quickly in his tweet. Let me read it

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<v Speaker 3>all because it's relevant what he said. Obama says, quote

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<v Speaker 3>circle the wagons. Bad debate nights happen, Trust me, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But this election is still a choice between someone who

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<v Speaker 3>has fought for ordinary folks' entire life and someone who

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<v Speaker 3>only cares about himself, between someone who tells the truth,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows right and wrong and will give it to

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<v Speaker 3>the American people straight, and someone who lies through his

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<v Speaker 3>teeth for his own benefit. Last night didn't change that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why so much is at stake in November.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's Obama trying to tell Democrats circle the wabbit wagons. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>David Axelrod, Obama's political guru, here's what he put out.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, quote reality check. Joe Biden is the nominee

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<v Speaker 3>of the Democratic Party, nominated by voters in primaries across

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<v Speaker 3>the country. Unless the potus himself decides to quit, which

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<v Speaker 3>he won't. That issue is settled. The discussion that is

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<v Speaker 3>going on now was timely a year ago when few

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to have it. It's largely irrelevant today now point

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<v Speaker 3>out a year ago Axelrod was saying this. He was saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Biden's too old. But what is striking so You've got

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of folks there saying stick with stick with Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>But you've also got the New York Times, and the

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<v Speaker 3>New York Times put out a blistering editorial, a blistering

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<v Speaker 3>editorial calling on Biden to drop out, saying his candidacy

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<v Speaker 3>is a reckless gamble. And it's not just the New

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<v Speaker 3>York Times. The Chicago Tribune also called on Biden to

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<v Speaker 3>drop out. The Washington Post editorial board strongly suggested that

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<v Speaker 3>Biden quit the race. And so, if you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the powers that be in the Democrat Party, the corporate

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<v Speaker 3>media is intertwined and is in fact the left wing

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<v Speaker 3>of the Democrat Party. And seeing the New York Times,

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<v Speaker 3>the Chicago Tribune, and the Washington Post all coming out

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<v Speaker 3>against Biden, We've never seen anything like that in his

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<v Speaker 3>entire presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we also have the Seer Report, and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to get your reaction from NBC News, it said that

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<v Speaker 2>President Joe Biden is having a family cumbea meeting Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about his re election campaign with family, following

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<v Speaker 2>a nationally televised debate that left many fellow Democrats worried

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<v Speaker 2>about his ability to beat former President Donald Trump. So

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<v Speaker 2>they're not really worried about his cognitive decline. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>worried about the fact you may lose. And in that

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<v Speaker 2>article it said quote Biden was ascribed by one person

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with his mood as humiliated, devoid of confidence, and

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<v Speaker 2>painfully aware that the physical images of him at the

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<v Speaker 2>debate ies staring into the distance, mouth agape, will live

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<v Speaker 2>beyond his pency. Now, that's what NBC News reported about

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<v Speaker 2>his general, I guess mood. And then there was other

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<v Speaker 2>things that were said in there, basically that look, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy who is smashing the glass in the

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<v Speaker 2>glass in case of emergency phase of his presidency, is

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<v Speaker 2>how they described it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's coming from NBC. That's shocking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and let me say the point you made just

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<v Speaker 3>there is really important. The Democrats who are panicking, who

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<v Speaker 3>are freaking out, the editorial boards, who are panicking and

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<v Speaker 3>freaking out, they don't care that the president of the

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<v Speaker 3>United States is not mentally competent. They don't care that

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<v Speaker 3>the President of the United States is, in the words

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<v Speaker 3>of the Biden Department of Justice, not mentally fit to

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<v Speaker 3>stand trial, not competent to stand trial. They don't care

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<v Speaker 3>about that they don't care that the commander in chief

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<v Speaker 3>can't string two sentences together. Look, the man I saw

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<v Speaker 3>on that debate stage, I'm not sure i'd let him

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<v Speaker 3>drive a car, much less have his finger on the button. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no Democrat cares about that at all. They don't care

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<v Speaker 3>that the White House is saying he can't handle any

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<v Speaker 3>crisis that happens if it happens before ten am or

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<v Speaker 3>after four pm, and and and even then it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's touch and go. None of that matters. The reason

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<v Speaker 3>they're they're panicking is one thing. They're like, uh, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna lose. He's gonna lose to Trump, and then

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<v Speaker 3>suddenly like, okay, now it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we need someone else.

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<v Speaker 3>It really is sad that that there is no one

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<v Speaker 3>stepping forward and saying this is this is dangerous for America. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>if you haven't seen it, one thing I retweeted, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's visual, so it's gonna be very hard to describe

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<v Speaker 3>on an audio pod. But John Stewart, right after the

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<v Speaker 3>debate put together a montage of images of Biden when

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't speaking, and it is damning. It's hysterical, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is damning. You just read that quote from NBC News,

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<v Speaker 3>the look of just comple elite confusion. Didn't know where

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<v Speaker 3>he was, just looking around like someone clearly not in

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<v Speaker 3>control of his faculties. And here's how John Stewart, the comedian,

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<v Speaker 3>referred to it. He said, it's not often you see

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<v Speaker 3>someone with resting twenty fifth Amendment face. That was John

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<v Speaker 3>Stewart's phrase. And by the way, the twenty fifth Amendment

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<v Speaker 3>is the amendment to the Constitution that provides for removing

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<v Speaker 3>a president from office, a sitting president when he is

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<v Speaker 3>no longer competent to do the job. And that look,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the punchline of a joke, but it's not much

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<v Speaker 3>of a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a great point.

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<v Speaker 2>a complicated issue. Can you break it down. Let's say

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<v Speaker 2>that he has a meeting with the family. It comes

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<v Speaker 2>out this week that he's not going anywhere after this

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<v Speaker 2>family meeting. This koumba ya and Democrats then just say

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<v Speaker 2>we got to turn on this guy. How does it work,

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<v Speaker 2>How does the twenty fifth work? And would Republicans have

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<v Speaker 2>to go with it?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it can be done by the Vice president and

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<v Speaker 3>a majority of the cabinet. And the vision that is

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<v Speaker 3>relevant the twenty fifth Amendment is Section four of the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty fifth Amendment. Here's what section four says. Quote, whenever

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<v Speaker 3>the Vice President and a majority of either the principal

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<v Speaker 3>officers of the executive departments that means the cabinet members,

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<v Speaker 3>or of such other body as Congress may by law

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<v Speaker 3>provide transmit to the President pro Tempore of the Senate

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<v Speaker 3>and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written

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<v Speaker 3>declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers

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<v Speaker 3>and duties of his office. The Vice President shall immediately

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<v Speaker 3>assume the powers and duties of the office as acting President. Thereafter,

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<v Speaker 3>when the President transmits to the President pro Tempore of

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<v Speaker 3>the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives

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<v Speaker 3>his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume

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<v Speaker 3>the powers and duties of his office, unless the Vice

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<v Speaker 3>President a majority of either the principal officers of the

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<v Speaker 3>Executive Department, or as such other body as Congress may

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<v Speaker 3>by law provide, transmit within four days to the President

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<v Speaker 3>pro Tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the

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<v Speaker 3>House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is

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<v Speaker 3>unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon,

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<v Speaker 3>Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours

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<v Speaker 3>for that purpose, if not in session, if the Congress

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<v Speaker 3>within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration,

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<v Speaker 3>or if Congress is not in session within twenty one

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<v Speaker 3>days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two

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<v Speaker 3>thirds vote of both houses that the president is unable

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<v Speaker 3>to discharge the power and duties of his office. The

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<v Speaker 3>vice president shall continue to discharge the same as acting president. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 3>the president shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

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<v Speaker 2>So this could happen in theory if they decided to

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<v Speaker 2>do it, but it would take Kamala Harrison the cabinet

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<v Speaker 2>going against the president very quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>It could happen.

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<v Speaker 3>If you had a written declaration signed by Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 3>and a majority of the cabinet, they would submit that

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<v Speaker 3>rec written declaration to the President pro Tem of the

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<v Speaker 3>Senate and the Speaker of the House. And as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as they do so, Kamala Harris is the acting president.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden is no longer the president. Now the next

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<v Speaker 3>step would beat is Joe Biden fight him. Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 3>could then submit a written statement saying I'm just fine, damnit.

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<v Speaker 3>And if that happens, then it gets kicked to Congress

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<v Speaker 3>and Congress has to decide. And it takes two thirds

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<v Speaker 3>of both houses to conclude that the president is unable

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<v Speaker 3>to perform his duties. And so that listen. That is

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<v Speaker 3>by design a high threshold removing a president is not

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<v Speaker 3>a big deal. Look, if it's triggered by the Vice

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<v Speaker 3>president of majority of the cabinet coming to that conclusion,

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<v Speaker 3>that is a massive shift.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, you're like me, we're flying blind because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a bunch of insiders at this Biden's White House

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<v Speaker 2>and not many friends in the cabinet. What are the chances,

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<v Speaker 2>just your gut on that even happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'll give you a little bit of the legal background.

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<v Speaker 3>So the principal draftsman of the amendment was a man

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<v Speaker 3>named John Ferick, and here's what he wrote. He said

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<v Speaker 3>that Congress deliberately left the terms unable and inability undefined quote,

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<v Speaker 3>since cases of inability could take various forms, not neatly

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<v Speaker 3>fitting into a rigid definition. The debates surrounding the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>fifth Amendment indicate that those terms are intended to cover

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<v Speaker 3>all cases in which some condition or circumstance prevents the

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<v Speaker 3>president from discharging his powers and duties.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is again all up to the Democrats. So

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<v Speaker 2>in essence, aside the faith of Joe Biden, whether they

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<v Speaker 2>stick with him, if they can't push him out, or

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<v Speaker 2>if they say, you know what we're going to do

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<v Speaker 2>it anyway because you're not listening to us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one way or the.

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<v Speaker 4>Other, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, there are fifteen members of the cabinet.

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<v Speaker 3>Secretary of State, Secretary of Treasury, Secretary of Defense, the

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<v Speaker 3>Attorney General, the Secretary of the Interior, the Secretary of Agriculture,

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<v Speaker 3>the Secretary of Commerce, the Secretary of Labor, the Secretary

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<v Speaker 3>of Health and Human Services, the Secretary of Housing and

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<v Speaker 3>Urban Development, the Secretary of Transportation, the Secretary of Energy,

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<v Speaker 3>the Secretary of Education, the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Secretary of Homeland Security. And so it is those

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen eight of them, plus Kamala Harris could remove Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden as president today.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you another question, and that is Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden moving forward if he stays. There's another debate on

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule. There was an interesting commentary on Fox about this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want you to listen and get your reaction.

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<v Speaker 5>In the offering before or that we get to that.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to collaborate on that a little bit. I

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<v Speaker 5>want to I want to ask you, you've worked in

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<v Speaker 5>white houses, how could the advisors who've been working closely

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<v Speaker 5>with him. I mean, they prepped him for a week.

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<v Speaker 1>In detail. I mean, they clearly knew his capacities.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, they know that enough because they always lay him

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<v Speaker 5>out with a teleprompter. They don't give him a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of impromptu possibilities. They write scripts for him. How could

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<v Speaker 5>they let this happen?

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<v Speaker 6>Paul, I don't know, And that is the great unanswered question. Look,

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<v Speaker 6>the people in the White House not only know his capabilities,

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<v Speaker 6>they deal with him day in and day out.

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<v Speaker 1>They never should have agreed to this debate.

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<v Speaker 6>It was completely unnecessary, and they had to know about

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<v Speaker 6>his limitations and bluntly a week out, ten days out.

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<v Speaker 6>If they sensed this, there was ample opportunity for an

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<v Speaker 6>international crisis or crisis to lead to a cancel. Every

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<v Speaker 6>decision the White House staff made, including the briefing for

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<v Speaker 6>Thursday night, failed, But the fundamental judgment on this debate

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<v Speaker 6>and participation was the wrong one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a former advisor to the Clinton White House who's

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<v Speaker 2>saying that, how on earth would you even move forward

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<v Speaker 2>if he stays? Is he stuck? Now he's got to

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<v Speaker 2>do the second debate? Or would you cancel and use whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Bs? Hey, I've got a cold, so I can't show

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<v Speaker 1>up tonight.

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<v Speaker 4>Look who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, let me point out that once again shows

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<v Speaker 3>the cynicism of today's Democrats. You know what he's saying

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<v Speaker 3>there is they should never agree to the debate. Why

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<v Speaker 3>because he's not mentally competent at all. And if he

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<v Speaker 3>does a debate, the American people will realize that their

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<v Speaker 3>commander in chief, like can't tie his own shoes. They're

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<v Speaker 3>not worried about having a president who can't tie his

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<v Speaker 3>own shoes. They're not worried about having a president whom

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<v Speaker 3>our enemies think is a joke. They're not worried about

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<v Speaker 3>having a president who the people who wish harmon America

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<v Speaker 3>look to, I mean, every enemy of America watched that

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<v Speaker 3>debate Thursday night, and listen, if you want to do

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<v Speaker 3>something bad, talk about a screaming invitation. There is nobody

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<v Speaker 3>in this White House who is scaring, intimidating anyone. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's really bad that that. Look, it was painful to

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<v Speaker 3>watch the debate.

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<v Speaker 4>It it It was yes, and there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Someone described it to me afterwards and the analogy

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<v Speaker 2>was spot on. It was like watching a funeral of

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<v Speaker 2>a person that was still alive.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, has a single Democrat has a

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<v Speaker 3>single media outlet apologize to the American people for lying

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<v Speaker 3>for the past three years. Yeah, because they've said, over

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<v Speaker 3>and over again, Oh, he's fit, he's so able, he's

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<v Speaker 3>he's like the smartest, most brilliant person you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>They knew that was a lie. They knew that was

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<v Speaker 3>a lie before the debate, and they kept on telling

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<v Speaker 3>that lie. They kept on telling that lie over and

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<v Speaker 3>over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's interesting that a lot of the

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>people the Democratic Party are saying he's got to go.

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 2>All these editorials are saying he's got to go that

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned, But there's two old people in Washington, Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. They're acting like the debate the

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<v Speaker 2>other night didn't even happen. Here is Nancy Pelosi when

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<v Speaker 2>she was asked a question about it, what do you make.

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<v Speaker 1>The Democrats of calling for by the business. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who's doing that. I don't know who's doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's doing that. I don't know who's

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. I don't know I'm not doing it. Quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Nancy Pelosi, Like, give me a break.

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<v Speaker 4>They're trying desperately to be in denial.

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<v Speaker 3>Here, I want you to listen to this montage of

0:27:42.840 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 3>Democrats talking about how sharp and fit Biden is and

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<v Speaker 3>how on his game he is. Just listened to this montage.

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<v Speaker 7>He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focus.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a man who is sharp, who is on

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<v Speaker 2>top of his game, who knows what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's tough, smart, he's on his game.

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<v Speaker 7>His mental acuity is great.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very sharper president. This is a man

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<v Speaker 1>that's on his game. President is absolutely there's there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a problem. He's he's fit, he's always answering questions.

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<v Speaker 4>He is on the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sharper than anyone I've spoken to. He is sharp,

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<v Speaker 1>he is on top of things.

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<v Speaker 6>He's out of my mind that the president is mentally

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<v Speaker 6>foss Spiden has proven himself to have a strong member.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's completely mentally sharper.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at the top of his game.

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<v Speaker 2>He's at the top of his game. I mean, these

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<v Speaker 2>are all the people around him. By the way, many

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<v Speaker 2>of those would have to be would be the same

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 2>people that would have to decide to move forward with

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty fifth who were telling you he's the top

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<v Speaker 2>of his game.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but but remember they care about power over everything else.

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 3>And so if if they become convinced that that Biden loses,

0:28:57.360 --> 0:29:00.120
<v Speaker 3>rats fleeing from a sinking ship would not move as

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<v Speaker 3>fast as they will move.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great way to discuss in this part

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<v Speaker 2>of the discussions, that's for sure, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to and actually, hold on a second, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to play something else, sure, which is I want

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<v Speaker 3>to play a contrast of two different moments in the

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<v Speaker 3>in debates. Number one, I want to play a segment

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<v Speaker 3>from a debate back in twenty twelve. Twenty twelve, Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden was vice president and he was debating Paul Ryan,

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<v Speaker 3>who was the Republican nominee to be vice president.

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<v Speaker 4>He was running with Mitt Romney.

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<v Speaker 3>I want us to play that, and then I want

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<v Speaker 3>us to play just a clip from Thursday's debate. So

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<v Speaker 3>in twelve years we'll hear how much it's it's changed.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start with this is Joe Biden debating Paul Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>twelve years ago in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 4>Give a listen.

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<v Speaker 7>You can cut text rates by twenty percent and still

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<v Speaker 7>preserve these important preferences for middle class taxpayers.

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<v Speaker 1>Not mathematically possible.

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<v Speaker 7>It is mathematically possible. It's been done before. It's precisely

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<v Speaker 7>we're proposing.

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<v Speaker 1>It has never been done before.

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<v Speaker 7>It's been done a couple of times, has never Jack

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.959
<v Speaker 7>gunnedy Lord, tax race, increased growth, Ronald Reagan, Oh you're

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<v Speaker 7>Jack Kennon, Ronald Reagan. Republicans and Democrats. Republicans and Democrats.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 7>I've worked together on this. You'll under saying, you guys

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<v Speaker 7>aren't used to doing.

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<v Speaker 1>What we're gonna do. When we did it with Democrat here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to work. We said to fill in the details.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly details. That's how you get things done. You

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<v Speaker 1>work with Congress. Look, let me say it this way.

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<v Speaker 5>Tom Winfeld Republican Congress working bipartisanly.

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<v Speaker 7>Mitt Ron seven rating.

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<v Speaker 1>Mitt Ron, you listen to that.

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<v Speaker 2>In twenty twelve, that's a guy that was I would

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<v Speaker 2>argue sharp and I mean I agree with anything he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was a very good debater that night.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Look, he was coming on hard. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve is what I was elected. That that was

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<v Speaker 3>the vice president who swore me in. That's the Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden who I knew, who swore me in and and

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<v Speaker 3>and you look at his line to to to Paul Ryan.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, now you're Jack Kennedy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and he's if you watch the video, he's

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<v Speaker 3>grinning ear to ear. It was very effective. He was sharp,

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<v Speaker 3>he was engaged, he was back and forth. Now listen

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<v Speaker 3>to to to just a snippet from from Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 3>twelve years later.

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<v Speaker 8>You can see he is six foot five and only

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<v Speaker 8>two hundred and twenty thirty pounds thirty five pounds. Well

0:31:19.720 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 8>you said six four two hundred anyway, that's a year. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 8>Just take a look at what he says he is,

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<v Speaker 8>and take a look at what he is. Look, I'd

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<v Speaker 8>be happy to have a driving contest in him. I

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<v Speaker 8>got my handicap, which when I was vice president down

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<v Speaker 8>to a six. And but by the way I told

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<v Speaker 8>you before, I'm happy to play golf. If you carry

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<v Speaker 8>your own bag, I think you can do it.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the biggest lie.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a six handicap, of all.

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<v Speaker 8>I was an eight handicap now eight. But I you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen this wig.

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<v Speaker 8>I know you Wig.

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<v Speaker 1>President, I mean you hear that.

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<v Speaker 2>And the funny part was he's the one that was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll play golf with you and I'll show you they're

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<v Speaker 2>not even the same human being.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, it is dramatically different. And listen, all of

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.840
<v Speaker 3>us are aging. All of us will shuffle off this

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 3>mortal coil. We are headed that direction eventually. But different

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:24.479
<v Speaker 3>people age at different speeds. And Joe Biden is a

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<v Speaker 3>very very old eighty one and the diminishment is indisputable.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why the Democrat Party and that's why the

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<v Speaker 3>corporate media are panicking. And let's be clear the cover

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<v Speaker 3>of Time magazine that the title is panic with Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden walking off the stage, because it is indisputable now

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<v Speaker 3>and none of the Democrats care that it's a problem

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<v Speaker 3>that the president isn't fit. They care that politically the

0:32:56.920 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 3>voters might be concerned that the president is not fit.

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<v Speaker 2>It is one that has not been on the front

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<v Speaker 3>So last week, the US Supreme Court decided a decision

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<v Speaker 3>of the Supreme Court, the Chevron decision, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>a decision Chevron versus Natural Resources Defense Council. The Chevron

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<v Speaker 3>is Chevron deference. It was a doctrine that said, the

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<v Speaker 3>courts will defer to federal agencies on rules and regulations

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<v Speaker 3>What it did is it gave enormous powers to unelected bureaucrats,

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<v Speaker 3>and Chevron you can trace in a very direct line

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<v Speaker 3>rise to the Chevron doctrine, because when an agency of

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<v Speaker 3>unelected bureaucrats issued a brand new rule, the courts would

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<v Speaker 3>enforce that rule and say, well, it's the expert agency,

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<v Speaker 3>even if Congress never passed this into law. And so

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<v Speaker 3>the Court last week overruled Chevron. What that means now

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<v Speaker 3>is that it is Congress. It's the elected members of

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<v Speaker 3>Congress that have to make policy decisions that impact the

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<v Speaker 3>American people, not the army of bureaucrats who have no

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<v Speaker 3>democratic accountability.

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<v Speaker 2>What type of president that will this have moving forward?

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<v Speaker 2>And what is a state of corporations as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>What it will do is weaken federal regulators. And let's

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<v Speaker 3>take for example, the facts here. So the facts here

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<v Speaker 3>concerned a family fishing company, and the federal government issued

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<v Speaker 3>a regulation that required the family fishing company number one

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<v Speaker 3>to allow a fishing monitor a person on board their ship,

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<v Speaker 3>but also forced the family fishing company to pay the

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<v Speaker 3>salary of the federal fishing monitor, even though the law

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<v Speaker 3>passed by Congress had no such requirement. So, in other words,

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<v Speaker 3>this regulator said, okay, you the fisherman, you got to

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<v Speaker 3>allow a federal bureaucrat on your ship, and you got

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<v Speaker 3>to pay a salary. Why because we said so, Because

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<v Speaker 3>we want you to pay a salary. And the court said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a second. When Congress passed the law, it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>say that where did you this come up with? Where'd

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<v Speaker 3>you come up with this? You just made this up.

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<v Speaker 3>And so in this case I led an amicus brief,

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<v Speaker 3>a friend of the court brief in the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 3>It was joined by seventeen other senators. Mike Johnson, the

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<v Speaker 3>Speaker of the House, led an amicus brief in the

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<v Speaker 3>House of Representatives. Let me read you the first couple

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<v Speaker 3>of paragraphs of the brief that I filed in the

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<v Speaker 3>Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's the summary of the argument. Quote.

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<v Speaker 3>The Court should unequivocally abandon the contemporary Chevron deference doctrine

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<v Speaker 3>because it contradicts Articles one, two, and three of the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 3>Decades of application of Chevron deference have facilitated the exercise

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<v Speaker 3>of functions by the executive branch that more properly belong

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<v Speaker 3>to the legislative and judicial branches. Agencies exploit general or

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<v Speaker 3>broad terms and statutes to engage in policy making functions

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<v Speaker 3>of questionable legality, with the assumption that the courts will

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<v Speaker 3>grant deference and not independently evaluate the lawfulness of those

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<v Speaker 3>agency interpretations. And then I quote from a dissent of

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<v Speaker 3>Justice Thomas's quote. The founders expected that the federal government's

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<v Speaker 3>powers would remain separated and the people's liberty secure only

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<v Speaker 3>if the branches could check each other. Therefore, the Constitution

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<v Speaker 3>imposes structural constraints on all three branches and the exercise

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<v Speaker 3>of power free of those accompanying restraints subverts the design

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<v Speaker 3>of the Constitution's ratifiers. The Court agreed with the amicus

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<v Speaker 3>brief that I filed for seventeen senators. It agreed with

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<v Speaker 3>the amicus brief Mike Johnson, the Speaker the House filed

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<v Speaker 3>for a number of House members. And the result today

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<v Speaker 3>is there is more power in the elected members of Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason that matters is where power resides. You

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<v Speaker 3>want it to reside where there's accountability. If Congress votes

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<v Speaker 3>for an idiotic law that hurts the American people, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what the voters can do. They can throw the

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<v Speaker 3>bums out. If an unelected bureaucrat issues a rule that says,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, fishermen, you got to let a bureaucrat

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<v Speaker 3>on your vote and you got to pay a salary. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, you can't fire that bureaucrat. That bureaucrat

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't run for office, that bureacrat doesn't do town halls,

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<v Speaker 3>that bureaucrat never sees the people he's hurting. And so

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<v Speaker 3>this was a victory for democracy and a victory for

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<v Speaker 3>the Constitution, which of course means democrats and the media

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<v Speaker 3>are horrified.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this reminds me so much of the parallels

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<v Speaker 2>and what you're describing with what we saw with doctor Fauci.

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<v Speaker 2>A guy elected by no one gets more money than

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else in the United States government.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally, that's not a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Making more than the president makes and being able to

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<v Speaker 2>basically make up and put laws on all of us

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<v Speaker 2>and certain you know, lockdowns, etc. On all of us

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<v Speaker 2>and change the entire way we did our life, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was in essence no checker balance for him. This

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<v Speaker 2>seems like where the country is moving now, paying attention

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<v Speaker 2>more to these type of situations.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and look, we see a whole series of decisions

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<v Speaker 3>from the Supreme Court that are all about enforcing the

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<v Speaker 3>Constitution and enhancing democracy.

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<v Speaker 4>You take the.

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<v Speaker 3>Dobbs decision that overturned ROVERSUS weighed what did it do.

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<v Speaker 3>It moved questions of abortion that are hotly contested that

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<v Speaker 3>people passionately disagree on. It moved them to the elected

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<v Speaker 3>branches of government. It moved them to the fifty states,

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<v Speaker 3>where the citizens of each state could decide what should

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<v Speaker 3>the rules be in your state? And nobody would expect

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<v Speaker 3>that Texas would have the same rules that California has

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<v Speaker 3>because the city since have different values and where there

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<v Speaker 3>are contested policy issues that ought to be the voters

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<v Speaker 3>deciding now. Interestingly enough, even though Democrats on the corporate

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<v Speaker 3>media love talking about how much they want to defend democracy,

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<v Speaker 3>they are horrified whenever the voters actually get to decide.

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<v Speaker 3>They want unelected judges deciding so long as they agree

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<v Speaker 3>with what the judges are deciding, and they want unelected

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<v Speaker 3>bureaucrats deciding, and they know they're going to agree with

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<v Speaker 3>that because the bureaucrats are overwhelming the left wing and

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<v Speaker 3>disconnected from the harms that their rules and regulations are causing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great point, don't forget. We do this show Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>What will Democrats do next? We'll cover all of that

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