Speaker 1: You're listening and waiting on reparations radio. You wait, No
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Speaker 1: than the day's longest. To keep putting together, keep the calm,
Speaker 1: and stay strong. Every day we've been reminded of retarding
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Speaker 1: park furder forest play gut. So we fun from the jump,
Speaker 1: from the start to day one. That's why we're telling
Speaker 1: them they should pay up preparations for kids and their
Speaker 1: kids and the generations that income. I ain't raising them
Speaker 1: what I say from my jaws when they can't wait
Speaker 1: to deploy. Sam has to stay when send My generation
Speaker 1: of war politicians are all spineless propaganda. Obama drone way
Speaker 1: more kids than Adam Lanza. Mama told me I'll be
Speaker 1: the boss. Tony Danza more of a Georgia Stanza. Put
Speaker 1: you one of my swagger. We're the ones you should
Speaker 1: be just tipping your hat top And the Constitution is
Speaker 1: ripped in the shadows. I'm looking at it with the
Speaker 1: fund doesn't matter, yo, This is dope night. Were hurry up, yo.
Speaker 1: As of now, it looks like Joey Joe Joe's is
Speaker 1: making some progress. But we just got over one hectic
Speaker 1: ass election night, as I'm sure a lot of you
Speaker 1: out there did. Then. Yeah, I maybe slept two to
Speaker 1: four hours a night every night. Yeah, yeah, you've been
Speaker 1: You've been walking around the house kind of kind of
Speaker 1: like I didn't. I didn't even know what to describe it.
Speaker 1: I was like, what because I don't want to say
Speaker 1: nervous breakdown. But it's definitely bad. Well, Um, as you
Speaker 1: guys all know, you know, it was too close to
Speaker 1: call on the night of, but it really wasn't looking well.
Speaker 1: Um as we're recording this episode, which is going to
Speaker 1: come out tomorrow, Um, there was a some shift in
Speaker 1: in everything that happened, you know when I woke up
Speaker 1: this morning, So Biden had just Wisconsin had just been
Speaker 1: called for Biden, Arizona had been called for Biden, but
Speaker 1: not by all of the news outlets. Um, it doesn't
Speaker 1: look good in Pennsylvania right now, but apparently it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: From my understanding of the situation, it seems like Joe
Speaker 1: Biden's going to win electorally eventually. Now that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that the maggots aren't going to cheat. And I think
Speaker 1: this election being as close as it is is kind
Speaker 1: of um, it's asty, It's a travesty, and it it
Speaker 1: totally is a repudiation of the strategy that the Democrats
Speaker 1: used in trying to Republicans way Republicans fucking four sixty
Speaker 1: seven million dollars into the pockets of the Lincoln Project.
Speaker 1: There are no good Republicans in this instance Republicans, and
Speaker 1: I'm becoming increasingly doubtful about the goodness of the Democrats
Speaker 1: well in any event, with everything kind of being tense
Speaker 1: in the air, and with the selection still being up
Speaker 1: for grabs, and with Donald Trump making his total and
Speaker 1: absolute gestopo dictatorship playlist, night is outside of like a
Speaker 1: polling place. I can't remember what city had said, chanting
Speaker 1: stop the vote, Yeah, like I meaning stop the vote.
Speaker 1: They're being really mask off about it right now. And
Speaker 1: something that I've been saying for the last four years
Speaker 1: is that people need to understand and come to grips
Speaker 1: with the idea that at least half of the country
Speaker 1: is cool with everything that Donald Trump is. People dead
Speaker 1: like they got no problem. And the quicker that we
Speaker 1: recognize this, I think the better off our ilk is
Speaker 1: going to be. You know, what I'm saying. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Ship's shops crazy. You know, people are getting attacked by
Speaker 1: Trump supporters in the streets, polling stations, like Mariah just said, um,
Speaker 1: people are having run ins where the other day they
Speaker 1: chased some girl who had a Black Lives Matter thing
Speaker 1: on her car and surrounded her. The cops aren't really
Speaker 1: arresting them, and in some cases seem to be working
Speaker 1: with them. So this got us kind of thinking. You know,
Speaker 1: you feel kind of naked in times like and like
Speaker 1: exactly you know now as yeah, I hate labels and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but just for the sake of what
Speaker 1: we're doing, as two people who are leftists are on
Speaker 1: the left. You know, historically in our personal lives, we've
Speaker 1: at least me, I was speaking for myself, but we've
Speaker 1: been pretty staunchly anti gun like you know, as far
Speaker 1: as like going down the checklist of things was the
Speaker 1: way that we look at things. And I would say
Speaker 1: sometime after COVID for me personally, but within the era
Speaker 1: of post George Floyd, I know Mariah has been kind
Speaker 1: of feeling this way to where our views on gun
Speaker 1: ownership have damn near flipped in reverse. And I think
Speaker 1: it's true for many who consider themselves liberals are on
Speaker 1: the left. Um just given the precipitous rise and gun
Speaker 1: sales over the last couple of months. Um I. And
Speaker 1: but we'll talk about a little bit more in a second.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so today we'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: the history of black gun ownership, some of the obtacles
Speaker 1: that have been placed in our past historically, as well
Speaker 1: as talk about our roommate and colleagues squally about you know,
Speaker 1: having grown up with a very different view of guns
Speaker 1: than us and sort of like the role guns play
Speaker 1: in the black and hip hop communities. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get into it. The ship the be viewed as a
Speaker 1: civil rights issue for black people since the days and abolition,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, the right to bear arms, the right
Speaker 1: to BC is full citizens and be you know, protected
Speaker 1: by the Second Amendment right to bear arms. And so
Speaker 1: we're gonna look today and arguments for the importance of
Speaker 1: army yourself. What you found their way into the music
Speaker 1: of artists from w Way, Enemy, Garri Swan and more.
Speaker 1: But we also brought on our friend and fellocy entrepreneur,
Speaker 1: activist and the third roommate of our l Rappo traphouse, Yo,
Speaker 1: what's up. I'm here. I'm exhausted, but I'm honored to
Speaker 1: be all you guys this podcast. This is late. All
Speaker 1: three of us are exhausted, but it's like different levels
Speaker 1: of exhausted, right, Like y'all are exhausted, like Yo, like
Speaker 1: actually putting into work, and I'm exhausted, like man, I
Speaker 1: wrote like three songs today, So I'm like, I'm dead.
Speaker 1: Are you? Can I call you a gun inducis definitely
Speaker 1: definitely yeah, at the very least your gun owner. I'm
Speaker 1: definitely an owner, definitely gun owner. So Mac and I
Speaker 1: our views have changed considerably on the topic of guns
Speaker 1: in recent months, as have many folks on the left,
Speaker 1: but usually have been as a gun owner. I might
Speaker 1: say I love gun and so we wanted to bring
Speaker 1: it in the perspective by somebody that's been gun toting
Speaker 1: for a minute. I like that for a minute, for
Speaker 1: two minutes. So Mac, you and I have both changed
Speaker 1: our views considerably around the topic of guns in recent months,
Speaker 1: as that many people on the left, and I want
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about where that comes from
Speaker 1: for me in particular, like, well, I remember, I'll never
Speaker 1: forget when I was in the mental hospital in two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, and then an eighteen year old girl. She
Speaker 1: was a new mother and she's been putting the hospital
Speaker 1: because she'd expressed suicidal thoughts after her husband, who was
Speaker 1: a veteran, was drunk one night, went and shout himself
Speaker 1: to death in their bathroom. And back then I thought
Speaker 1: a lot about how many people would probably still be
Speaker 1: with us here today if there were stricted gun control
Speaker 1: laws in this country. And the first time I ever
Speaker 1: thought about buying gun was two, that's sixteen. I was
Speaker 1: a really enough time. I was like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: ending this peace out, maybe this maybe I'm like hit
Speaker 1: up the gun shop, and like that's why I knew
Speaker 1: I could never own one up And yeah, I'm said,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I thought I would never own one. I
Speaker 1: still know, But you know, i'd been looking out fine,
Speaker 1: but lots of regarding buying guns, we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: will make the switch for you, So okay. So I
Speaker 1: realized this summer that the people who have been harassing
Speaker 1: me and like the rending my life are probably gun owners.
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, why would I sit back
Speaker 1: and remain defenseless and never one never want to take
Speaker 1: a life. But if they come for me, they come
Speaker 1: for me. Ought to be ready. And particularly there was
Speaker 1: a couple of incidences like of protesting where that I
Speaker 1: was with leftists who had guns. I was protesting white
Speaker 1: people who had like r like that, and so like
Speaker 1: for example, when we went to we counter protesting against
Speaker 1: these white supremoses and Stone Mountain, there was a ton
Speaker 1: there was a ton of like Antifa with like guns,
Speaker 1: and I felt like really calm being around like a supremos.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, forgot unstrap and then like yeah,
Speaker 1: same thing at the Erwin County Attention Center when we
Speaker 1: drove down to also the Georgia to like protest Ice,
Speaker 1: the organizers were like everybody staying in the cars, there's
Speaker 1: a militia here. And then I was scan the crowd
Speaker 1: and that solid dude like the A R art again
Speaker 1: when I was like I'm marching. Yeah, that increasingly, but
Speaker 1: none of that in these scenarios were like I was
Speaker 1: put at ease by the fact like we had guns too,
Speaker 1: because brought me around the line. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it's weird, like I've my views have changed like yours
Speaker 1: we were talking about the other day, But at the
Speaker 1: same time, they're kind of the same. It's like a
Speaker 1: practical way that I look at it, because it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, so guns literally have no other function than
Speaker 1: to make it to to allow a human being to
Speaker 1: kill something in the most efficient way possible with the
Speaker 1: least amount of effort. Well, I mean, it's funny. It's
Speaker 1: like I've almost completely adapted the right wing position on
Speaker 1: gun ownership and stuff, which is like, I have a
Speaker 1: I have a legitimate fear of government induced tyranny at
Speaker 1: this point, so you know, I mean, first and foremost,
Speaker 1: my biggest gripe with pro gun people who has always
Speaker 1: been just keep it real about what you're doing and
Speaker 1: what you want, you know. So it's of a motherfucker
Speaker 1: being like, yo, I need this gigantic a R with
Speaker 1: the scope and extended clip because if I don't have that,
Speaker 1: then I can't defend my family. It's like, YO, shut
Speaker 1: the funk up, you know what I'm saying. Instead of
Speaker 1: just coming out and being like yo, I like collecting these.
Speaker 1: I like taking pictures of myself with them. I like
Speaker 1: fred him out on the floor and then looking at them,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I like taking videos where
Speaker 1: I'm posing that I like going to the shooting range
Speaker 1: and shooting stuff. I mean, it's still goofy as the funk,
Speaker 1: but I it's just when motherfucker's is lying and not
Speaker 1: being real, that's what kisses me off. But again, if
Speaker 1: in two thousand and twelve or two thousand thirteen, you
Speaker 1: were worried about, oh man, Obama is gonna come with
Speaker 1: the female camps and the jack booted thugs are gonna
Speaker 1: put us in hobbit homes and you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: he's gonna declare marsh lah blah blah blah blah. That
Speaker 1: was the right wing position on why you know, the
Speaker 1: kids getting shot up in Sandy Hook wasn't enough of
Speaker 1: a reason for gun reform. So now I'm saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: well everybody should own a gun because I mean the
Speaker 1: cops literally, you literally can get abducted off the street
Speaker 1: by dudes in tactical gear and you don't know if
Speaker 1: their cops are not. So the danger that conservatives have
Speaker 1: historically always been laughing about is now a reality for
Speaker 1: people like me and Yaw And now as a result,
Speaker 1: I think every man, woman and child should be armed
Speaker 1: and trained. Straight up. Now, my view still hold in
Speaker 1: terms of what the negative effects of that are, you know,
Speaker 1: mass shooting and the effects that guns have on crime, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: I just feel that the political situation kind of outweighs
Speaker 1: those risks. I mean, I'm sure that the science and
Speaker 1: the number are still hold up. That they're being more
Speaker 1: guns than people in the country's like not good, Like
Speaker 1: your niggers know that's bad, right, But as it stands now,
Speaker 1: you know, there's three hundred million plus guns in the country,
Speaker 1: and it's definitely not the majority of people who own that. So,
Speaker 1: just like with everything, you know, if guns are power,
Speaker 1: then it's being hoarded by those who can afford to
Speaker 1: hoard them. And you know, now, I really think we're
Speaker 1: in a reality where it's like, you gotta wonder why
Speaker 1: they're hoarding them, and let me get some, let me
Speaker 1: get let me get a couple of those. Uh. I
Speaker 1: have mixed views about guns. Um even though your owner,
Speaker 1: because I like, a gun to me was survival, it
Speaker 1: was it was survival for me. Um. I grew up
Speaker 1: in a completely dangerous atmosphere um to where a gun
Speaker 1: was a necessity even being a kid ten eleven years old. UM,
Speaker 1: So my perception on a gun would be different from
Speaker 1: someone who doesn't share those experiences. Um. But I also
Speaker 1: feel like a gun in the wrong hands is a
Speaker 1: problem as well. Um Am. I like so avid on
Speaker 1: the laws. I never really cared about them, honestly. My
Speaker 1: first gun, I was ten years old. It was a
Speaker 1: small twenty two um and my brother gave it to me.
Speaker 1: But you know, when he gave it to me, he
Speaker 1: told me this was for survival and you're never You're
Speaker 1: never using it unless you know you're defending yourself. Other
Speaker 1: than that, like your gun is in the house put up, Um,
Speaker 1: it's for your protection. Um. But then you get those
Speaker 1: people that have guns and they're just crazy or whatever.
Speaker 1: So I definitely got some mixed views on it. I
Speaker 1: just know myself personally, I'm very levelheaded and I'm probably
Speaker 1: not gonna pull out a gun or anything or do
Speaker 1: anything crazy or it up at school or anything of
Speaker 1: that sort. But I do want to feel protected and safe.
Speaker 1: So can you think of can you think of a
Speaker 1: time when you're growing up where like you feel like,
Speaker 1: looking back now that you're a girl, asks man, or
Speaker 1: you're like, damn if I hadn't had a piece, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might not be here right now, like that that
Speaker 1: never happened a couple man, like a couple. My um
Speaker 1: my dad was murdered when I was a child, and
Speaker 1: if I didn't have a gun to shoot back, I
Speaker 1: probably would have been killed too. And I and I
Speaker 1: wasn't shooting back to aim. I was just shooting just
Speaker 1: to scare people. Um And to me that I feel
Speaker 1: like that saved my life. And I know a lot
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends that got themselves out
Speaker 1: of like crazy situations just because they showed a gun.
Speaker 1: They didn't even have to shoot it, they just showed
Speaker 1: it and it got them out of certain things. So
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's good and bad with guns. You
Speaker 1: just kind of gotta take it for what it is.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's just like any other power, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like in in reality, there's like
Speaker 1: only two things that you can really consider to be
Speaker 1: like a superpower, having a billion dollars, and if you
Speaker 1: have a billion dollars, you're a gun. You can change
Speaker 1: the physical reality around you, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you can do they don't want to do billion
Speaker 1: dollars or a gun. It makes me think what if
Speaker 1: the Native Americans had guns, or what if the Africans
Speaker 1: had had guns? If the Africans actually had guns, um,
Speaker 1: then then where would the course of history have win?
Speaker 1: All a gun is as a tool, Like my I'm
Speaker 1: my father was in the military, so like I have
Speaker 1: like a military upbringing like that to where it's like
Speaker 1: guns were even when watching movies, it's like it's always
Speaker 1: like treated technical and like a serious thing. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be taken serious. That's why as I grew up,
Speaker 1: not only was it like having that sort of like
Speaker 1: attitude towards guns where it's like the serious thing that's
Speaker 1: not to play with. Then on top of that, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm Liberian. So when the war happened, and then it's
Speaker 1: like you're actually seeing gun violence, and you're seeing more
Speaker 1: than actually seeing gun violence, you're seeing the effects of
Speaker 1: gun violence. Like every other week, my mom's like learning
Speaker 1: that somebody that she knows got shot, or this cousin
Speaker 1: here got shot. At this with my grandma, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh damn. You know when people
Speaker 1: are like spraying like this and not looking like the
Speaker 1: bullets go somewhere, and they they do, you know, they
Speaker 1: really do what if the what of the Africans had guns?
Speaker 1: And it made me think the naturnal rebellion and that
Speaker 1: the muskets and firearms were too difficult for them to
Speaker 1: collect for their rebellions but draw so much attention to themselves.
Speaker 1: I think at this time, um, yeah, eight thirties, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of the books of like guns, like actually
Speaker 1: go and confiscate if you go into any like black home,
Speaker 1: even if you're a free man, and like to just
Speaker 1: take wofully sees waping. So they didn't want to draw
Speaker 1: attention to themselves, so they use knives, hatchets, access he
Speaker 1: killed a woman with a fence post. Sounds like some
Speaker 1: current day stuff the very course of American history. It's
Speaker 1: like natural. Why were the Black panthers so dangerous? Logically dangerous, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know they did it in a way to
Speaker 1: where it was like we're protecting our own we're protecting
Speaker 1: our people, our streets, we're not killers, were not dangerous,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna stand up for what we believe in.
Speaker 1: So I think that it's based on the owner man,
Speaker 1: like you could you get those people that shouldn't have
Speaker 1: a gun at all, like the white boy that's getting bullied.
Speaker 1: I don't know how, but he has a gun. He
Speaker 1: shouldn't have a gun. Well, I mean that that's just one.
Speaker 1: That's just one like a specific like archetype of what
Speaker 1: you're talking about though, but like that that thing exists
Speaker 1: that you're describing, it like exists in all humans, especially
Speaker 1: men in Texas, that same sort of like mentality that
Speaker 1: like the same thing that the white kid is going
Speaker 1: through when he gets bullied. It's like I gotta take
Speaker 1: a gun to school. Obviously it's not the same because
Speaker 1: you know, black people don't really take those shot everybody,
Speaker 1: but it's like but but that same sort of sense
Speaker 1: of like, oh, something I was wrong and now I
Speaker 1: need to exert my will through the power of a gun.
Speaker 1: Like the same thing that's going on internally with that kid.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing that happens when somebody's on a
Speaker 1: ball court and they get embarrassed and they gonna start
Speaker 1: licking shot or even shooting somebody. You know, it's that
Speaker 1: same sort of like feeling. That's how That's one of
Speaker 1: the things that made me feel like I shouldn't own
Speaker 1: a gun because was when I was like younger in
Speaker 1: my early twenties. I was had like an ill Napoleon
Speaker 1: complex and was like, Yo, I'm gonna start to fight
Speaker 1: first because I'm sure it's like I'm gonna be the
Speaker 1: wildest motherfucker there and then all I would to have
Speaker 1: my back and ship like that, so I would get
Speaker 1: in fights, and I know that like when I'm in
Speaker 1: a fight with a bigger person, just like and drinking,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I'm a drinker, it's
Speaker 1: like I don't need to And it's not not just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like go out with a gun and ship
Speaker 1: like that, but it's like I don't need to come
Speaker 1: home to a gun being in the house back then,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. As far as the way
Speaker 1: I was looking at it, then okay, Well, given that
Speaker 1: I said that, you know, nobody's really, at least nobody
Speaker 1: I know of, it's really advocating for let's take all
Speaker 1: the guns away. Squally, What do you feel about the
Speaker 1: just restrictions on guns and legislation on guns. Do you
Speaker 1: think that anybody, everybody should just be able to own
Speaker 1: any gun, no um and death something that I feel
Speaker 1: like the Black community, we have guns, but we don't
Speaker 1: know how to use them or win to use them. UM.
Speaker 1: I don't think like the average civilians should just be
Speaker 1: able to go and buy freaking a R fifteen or
Speaker 1: a K That's ridiculous. Um. Handguns are okay, UM, but
Speaker 1: it's all based on the own it really is. UM.
Speaker 1: I have you know some big guns that I've never
Speaker 1: even put out unless it's probably like kind of crazy war. Um.
Speaker 1: But that's me, you know, I'm I'm a logical thinker.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna just go and shoot someone and just
Speaker 1: end up in prison for the rest of my life. UM.
Speaker 1: Guns are like so easy to get. You can get
Speaker 1: a gun before you can get a car or a
Speaker 1: house or it's like it's really insane fanning certain kinds
Speaker 1: of firearms. Is that you think you're a turn criminals
Speaker 1: from doing criminal as considers creating criminals because you're feeding
Speaker 1: an underground market the same way that like you might
Speaker 1: as well lines of drugs because at least then you
Speaker 1: can get you know, he treated in the public health
Speaker 1: does you get healthy? Got problems all about boards? You
Speaker 1: can regulate this as they ain't putting vanil in the
Speaker 1: heroin or whatever. My as wealth may go down little
Speaker 1: so you can regulate them heavily. It's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a slippery shoa. What about back in the day Chris
Speaker 1: rock had a Was it Chris Rock? I forget it
Speaker 1: might have been Chris Rocker Davie somebody had a joke
Speaker 1: or a bit back in the day where they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: you should make guns super expensive and like make bullets
Speaker 1: cast of five hundred dollars so that motherfucker's will think
Speaker 1: twice before they shoot people and ship that's true, and
Speaker 1: then that could also cause some type of weird situation
Speaker 1: when people only rich people can have guns. President for this,
Speaker 1: so in Illinois singled out poor citizens for a gun
Speaker 1: band by starting out it is late nine eight, the
Speaker 1: Chicago House of Authority, the Chicago Police apart a man
Speaker 1: UM enacted a policy Operation Clean Suite, which applied to
Speaker 1: all housing units owned and operated by the Chicago Housing Authority,
Speaker 1: and the purpose was the confiscation of firearms and illegal
Speaker 1: art products and war of the searches. They're doing war
Speaker 1: less searches. Um. They had a visitor exclusive policy, so
Speaker 1: severely limiting the right of c J C a J
Speaker 1: tenants to associate with with associated their residences, the family
Speaker 1: members and other guests and all these restricted policies. But
Speaker 1: they pretty much said, if you live in public housing,
Speaker 1: we're gonna come take your guns, and the a c
Speaker 1: l U, this is the a c l U file
Speaker 1: the lawsuits UM against it, saying that um, that's technically
Speaker 1: against your constitutional right for right suits to say pore
Speaker 1: people can't have them. We made Oh, let's make both ways,
Speaker 1: but a little make freends, lay yourself up. It's suscriminatory
Speaker 1: against poor folks who might have more reason to protect
Speaker 1: themselves because in the environment the children, that's what they do.
Speaker 1: They'll put the gun shop close close to the to
Speaker 1: the poverty crime field places and then charge lower prices
Speaker 1: for guns. Well, the Second Amendment wasn't meant for black people,
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't with black people in mind. The Constitution
Speaker 1: together wouldn't really Like there's some people who think like
Speaker 1: that ship was pretty much you know the whole like
Speaker 1: organized militia, well armed organized militia stuff is like yo,
Speaker 1: that was put there to put down slave rebellions when
Speaker 1: they would happen, so that there would be a well
Speaker 1: armed militia to stop that ship from happening. The word
Speaker 1: thinking about us when they're right. Yeah, that's true. They
Speaker 1: decided the Dress Scott decision pretty much a holy slavery.
Speaker 1: One of the riots that know, blacks were said not
Speaker 1: to have because we weren't citizens, was the right to
Speaker 1: come ship. That's I'm saying, that's that's pretty much just
Speaker 1: so they can stay in control. It's such a complex
Speaker 1: situation because it's like another thing of my views that
Speaker 1: used to change is like I always have like, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of even though my parents, my dad were for
Speaker 1: the government, I'd always have like a general, you know,
Speaker 1: conspiratorial view towards like the US government. Probably watched too
Speaker 1: much X files when I was a kid, but you know,
Speaker 1: for that reason, I used to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: be swayed back in the day or like I always
Speaker 1: thought that was a good point that right wingers had
Speaker 1: about guns, like yo, you don't want these jackbooted thugs
Speaker 1: to come to your house. But as I got older
Speaker 1: and thought about it more, I started feeling like, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna fucking stop the army. Dude, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I don't care who you I don't care how many
Speaker 1: guns you have, evan your arsenal or whatever. If they're
Speaker 1: coming for you. You're not going to stop them. Like terrors.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's that like got mad bombs and guns in layers
Speaker 1: and basses where they've been training for this ship since
Speaker 1: they were eight. The motherfucker's get murked. And you think
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get murked and fucking Wichita or some ship.
Speaker 1: The military is not gonna find you in Wichita. Dude,
Speaker 1: you're hidden, you're good, you're safe. And then even when
Speaker 1: ship does go down, that's not who you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to fight, you know what I'm saying. It's like you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to fight like other citizens. You know, if
Speaker 1: the ship were to go down like that, which we
Speaker 1: don't want it to happen because don't, but just hypothetically,
Speaker 1: if the ship goes down, it's gonna be good old
Speaker 1: boys and pickup trucks riding around like the Taliban and
Speaker 1: ship that you're gonna have to worry about. And that's
Speaker 1: not gonna be necessarily the troops or any official troops
Speaker 1: that are trying to put you down. Scary s, very
Speaker 1: scary stuff. I just don't like the situation. Man deal.
Speaker 1: The gun ranges are always in the like white neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: So like the richer white people get to learn how
Speaker 1: to shoot guns and they get to do it for leisure,
Speaker 1: and then in the black neighborhoods the guns are for
Speaker 1: like survival and population control. Well, how do you feel
Speaker 1: when you when you go up to the shooting rangeing, like,
Speaker 1: have you ever been the one? I mean I've been
Speaker 1: the yeah before the one. I can promise you you're
Speaker 1: gonna be the only black person ye know when I went,
Speaker 1: When I went, yous been like a barrier for me
Speaker 1: to like get into it my gun. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna trying to like I'm not going to applyde armory
Speaker 1: or they have like trump twine putty four signs outside
Speaker 1: and I'm not going down to the gun range where
Speaker 1: they're gonna be. Like, it's even weird being black when
Speaker 1: you're when you're black and you walk in a gun range,
Speaker 1: it's like everybody's turning, like because it's a it's a
Speaker 1: cultural it's a cultural thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like the sort of white people that are giving you
Speaker 1: that look are like steeped in gun culture that like
Speaker 1: excludes black people. Yes, and they're in there with their
Speaker 1: freaking five year old son and five year old daughter
Speaker 1: and they both got a RS and they know how
Speaker 1: to shoot, and we don't. We don't know how to shoot.
Speaker 1: We aim at everything, we don't know. We just don't.
Speaker 1: We don't have knowledge of guns or anything. We just
Speaker 1: get them. I'm I'm I'm seeing Killer Mike in the
Speaker 1: outline where this is a very loose episode late this job.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing Killer Mike in the outline. But you're just
Speaker 1: saying that reminded me of something that Killer Mike was
Speaker 1: talking about one time where he was talking about like,
Speaker 1: you're not ready for the revolution if you don't like,
Speaker 1: you don't know martial art, your kids don't know how
Speaker 1: to shoot guns. And oh you gotta think, what what
Speaker 1: do most black kids grow up wanting to do? Play basketball, football,
Speaker 1: wrap or wrap, and white kids get put in like
Speaker 1: workers from ballet mars. This household just that, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you it's insane. You will go in there and see
Speaker 1: a six year old white kid with the a are
Speaker 1: disassembling the magazine. He'll he'll he'll empty the thirty clip
Speaker 1: and all thirty bullets will be in the center of
Speaker 1: the freaking target. Like they know how to shoot, their
Speaker 1: train as kids how to shoot. It's like a common
Speaker 1: thing for them. It's insane. That's what I feel like
Speaker 1: with our people. If we're gonna have guns, we need
Speaker 1: to know how to utilize guns. But I mean, it's like,
Speaker 1: and we'll get into it when we talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about, you know, the guns and rap music and stuff,
Speaker 1: but the sort of gun culture that exists within like
Speaker 1: the black community. And I don't want to use that
Speaker 1: as a blanket term, but it's just like the white
Speaker 1: people's gunship is like again, it's like that, Yo, this
Speaker 1: is a tool I would take. I'm gonna teach my
Speaker 1: son how to break this down. Blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And whereas I feel like
Speaker 1: with our ship, it's more glorified. Yeah, it's more glorified.
Speaker 1: It's it's more of a civil social status, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like it is not a civil
Speaker 1: social status a certain kind of person, Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: But I mean Andrew Clyde running for Congress and the
Speaker 1: ninth district in Georgia has a fucking like a R
Speaker 1: on his campaign signs some people's yards. There's a part
Speaker 1: of it that's a status symbol to his bubble of people.
Speaker 1: But then another aspect of it is virtue signaling on
Speaker 1: like a set of political beliefs. A politician showing you
Speaker 1: that he's a proud gun owner lets you know, like
Speaker 1: se of what his positions are without However, when fucking
Speaker 1: Chief Keith points there to the a k at the
Speaker 1: camera with thirty shirtless niggas and they all got the camera,
Speaker 1: it doesn't have that same poetical behind it, right, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he's right, it's like for us, yeah, for
Speaker 1: for us, Yeah, like he's right, because for us it's
Speaker 1: like some sort of like expression. Um, there's no anything
Speaker 1: behind it. It's just, oh, I got this, I'm cool.
Speaker 1: It's so weird, so weird. They're never holding the guns right, nobody.
Speaker 1: No one's looking through a skulle. It's horrible. What's the skull,
Speaker 1: what's the sighting, what's the nig It's terrible. And white
Speaker 1: kids are learning about guns from when they're like three
Speaker 1: to four. They're gonna give them a baby gun or
Speaker 1: like a water gun. They're gonna know how to use that,
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna start huntings and they're gonna how
Speaker 1: to use a shotgun. By the time they're like fourteen
Speaker 1: and fifteen, they're gonna be fully versed in a handgun,
Speaker 1: in a shotgun, and in a semi automatic. The average
Speaker 1: black kid will never get that type of experience. And
Speaker 1: let's let's keep it real though. And it's like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say that. I don't think we should
Speaker 1: try to make it seem like that's like white people.
Speaker 1: There's there's a there's there's an overwhelming amount of white
Speaker 1: people that are I don't funk with guns like that.
Speaker 1: It really is like a weirdo minority. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I am telling you all that as of now, my
Speaker 1: mindset is every man, woman and child should owe the gun.
Speaker 1: That's true. And also if you own like fifty guns,
Speaker 1: you're fucking weirdo. You know, I'm sorry, you're weird. It
Speaker 1: does look cool in like a call of duty sort
Speaker 1: of way, but it's fucking weird. I don't have the numbers,
Speaker 1: but I do think it's some sort of crazy sort
Speaker 1: of ship where it's like some large percentage of the
Speaker 1: guns and the country's owned just like with money, it's
Speaker 1: owned by a small amount of the population, like has
Speaker 1: all the guns and stuff like that like, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not. You can't just be like, hey, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna pick a random white person off of our block
Speaker 1: and I bet you god motherfucker got a dungeon full
Speaker 1: of guns. It's just the teachings behind it. I really
Speaker 1: can't explain. I don't know if it's like the environment
Speaker 1: is we just black, We don't utilize guns the way
Speaker 1: we should. There's no teachings. There's now how would squally
Speaker 1: if Squally ruled the world and you could make that change,
Speaker 1: what attitude would you instill in like black families and
Speaker 1: black communities in general about like guns and stuff, protection
Speaker 1: um protection only. Do you think that there's something that
Speaker 1: can be done by people like us culturally to like
Speaker 1: helps get that message across. I think that our like
Speaker 1: black veterans and people that are well versed with guns
Speaker 1: and well skilled with guns, if they got together and
Speaker 1: created some sort of school or organization to where they
Speaker 1: would teach the kids on how to use the guns
Speaker 1: and we're there for and and still those like principles
Speaker 1: in those children. I think that would be a good idea.
Speaker 1: Teach our kids don't know military tactics, Our kids don't
Speaker 1: know combatives. They don't know if we if we had
Speaker 1: a civil war today, our kids wouldn't survive it. Man.
Speaker 1: If the fucking electricity and internet went out for three months,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's would start eating each other in this country. If
Speaker 1: you told Americans that their big mac had to have
Speaker 1: one less patty, these motherfucker's would start tearing each other's.
Speaker 1: Flash off. This toping m guns today because it need
Speaker 1: Since March. So in the twelve days after Trump issued
Speaker 1: a proclamation declaring national emergency because of COVID firearms, salves
Speaker 1: jumped over a hundred twenty thousand per day. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: hundred seventy six thousand on March sixteen, and then a
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand additional firearms was sold in March. Uh.
Speaker 1: Some analysis done by the Brookings Institute suggested almost three
Speaker 1: million more firearms have been sold from March to July
Speaker 1: than ordinary. That increase occurred in June alone. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a hot but this it's like a hot
Speaker 1: topic right now. That was excited talk to like anarchists
Speaker 1: and people like that, and they're like, oh, I was
Speaker 1: talking about guns, and they're all very pro oh my guns.
Speaker 1: But it's like if ship really goes down and there's
Speaker 1: like massivil unrest to the point that like the supply
Speaker 1: chain started breaking down, there's no food to the grocery store.
Speaker 1: We should really get concerned about. Do you know how
Speaker 1: to grow your own food for sure, you know how
Speaker 1: to sell your unclothes for sure, you get pressuring water
Speaker 1: for sure, and so yeah, I mean, like if we're
Speaker 1: really talking about and it goes downloads down, that's the same.
Speaker 1: There isn't even the first thing to be And it's crazy.
Speaker 1: We only needed done because you don't have any of
Speaker 1: the other necessary supplies to it's gonna be people loving
Speaker 1: each other because they don't they're down. What did I
Speaker 1: ask you when when fucking COVID first hit you? Remember
Speaker 1: I think Mariah might have been out. I think you
Speaker 1: might have been to go see your mom. And I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, little brother hold one of them thinks yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Because there was this there
Speaker 1: was this feeling COVID it like in the beginning felt
Speaker 1: like felt like it was about to be mad. I
Speaker 1: felt like it's gonna be some crazy stuff. On walking understanding,
Speaker 1: it's crazy that you mention June because the gun shop
Speaker 1: on Lexington Road. I can't remember them. Thornton's, they dropped
Speaker 1: their gun prices like like a hundreds of two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: There was like nine millimeters on sale for eighty dollars.
Speaker 1: A gun shouldn't cost less than the PlayStation. Man. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: I mean during that time they dropped PlayStation controller. Man.
Speaker 1: Go on, you were talking about the fact that like
Speaker 1: there's not guns upon the black community. Do you say
Speaker 1: days if you want, oh, should the PlayStation? Did you
Speaker 1: just want only weird people happen? Na, That's not what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's more of a comment about proliferation, which,
Speaker 1: in the context of guns, I think is kind of
Speaker 1: universally a bad thing because even your proliferation of guns
Speaker 1: can even be a way of targeting communities in a way.
Speaker 1: If in a poor community or a black community, if
Speaker 1: all of the males have easier access to a gun
Speaker 1: than a fucking job, that's not you know, that's not
Speaker 1: a sign that the gun companies are saying, Yo, we
Speaker 1: really care about black people. Let's make sure they're all
Speaker 1: armed so they can stop the fucking proud boys. You know,
Speaker 1: that's gun proliferation to an at risk community, So that
Speaker 1: they kill each other. Like I'm poor. If you were
Speaker 1: to tell me you're mac buy a PlayStation, get a
Speaker 1: PlayStation five, Okay, I gotta think about it. I gotta
Speaker 1: ligne some ship up. I gotta make sure some ship
Speaker 1: is taken care of, and I have to do all
Speaker 1: that sort of thinking and planning into like all right,
Speaker 1: I'm about to make the investment on a PlayStation five
Speaker 1: because I need that. Whereas if you told me, Yo, Matt,
Speaker 1: get a gun, I could get a gun by new
Speaker 1: in tomorrow and it wouldn't put that big of a
Speaker 1: death in my wallet. I'm not really opposed to people
Speaker 1: having guns, but have you haven't have you guys ever
Speaker 1: tried to buy one. No, there's no psychological evaluation when
Speaker 1: you purchase the gun. Anyone. If you're eighteen and above
Speaker 1: and not a felon, you can purchase a gun. It's
Speaker 1: the same process, like there's no psychic evaluation to determine
Speaker 1: if a police officer it's racist or not before you
Speaker 1: put them into the academy. It's the same thing. So
Speaker 1: it's not the people. It's not that people have guns.
Speaker 1: Is there's no way to see who's unstable enough for
Speaker 1: who shouldn't have one. But it's interesting to me because
Speaker 1: the gun control active, which is a battle law regulating
Speaker 1: the firearms industry and firearms owners. Man, it's so that
Speaker 1: it's unawful for anyone's candida is a mental defective or
Speaker 1: has been permitted to any mental institution, illegal for them
Speaker 1: to the firearms. I don't know. Let me tell nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody's following that. You shop and you got five dollars,
Speaker 1: you're gonna and not a felon, you're gonna get a gun.
Speaker 1: The only thing they'll do is uh submitted background check
Speaker 1: and if it comes through good, you'll get that gun.
Speaker 1: You mean, host of the fire US. Oh, that's stick.
Speaker 1: It depends on the crime allows for returning citizens to
Speaker 1: purchase firearms. I think if if there was this, if
Speaker 1: prison was actually a place for rehabilitation, yeah, then I
Speaker 1: would say wholesale. Yeah. But because it's not, nobody kind
Speaker 1: of want to know what you did. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: Prison isn't fixing anybody. These those feelings get out worse
Speaker 1: than what they were when they went in. I don't
Speaker 1: that's a steaky one because I don't feel like feelings
Speaker 1: deserve a lot of the things that they go through
Speaker 1: Oh no, for sure for not being able to vote
Speaker 1: and hard for them to get jobs. And um, I
Speaker 1: feel like, if you've done your time and all that
Speaker 1: good stuff, you should have your second chance without the
Speaker 1: big if on your forehead. If that means only the gun, sure, Um,
Speaker 1: but I guess based on the crime, Like if they
Speaker 1: went through prison for um, laundering money, you know what,
Speaker 1: like you well see that. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: should determine that they shouldn't have a gun or not.
Speaker 1: Like if somebody if somebody was in jail for like
Speaker 1: robbing a liquor store and they got out, I'm saying
Speaker 1: somebody was in jail for like, oh, like when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I wasn't being a leader and I
Speaker 1: was being a follower and I ended up robbing a
Speaker 1: liquor store and I went to jail and I paid
Speaker 1: my price and blah blah. I'd be more comfortable with
Speaker 1: that person getting out and having like all their gun
Speaker 1: rights fully restored, then I would a motherfucker who's getting
Speaker 1: out after being heavily involved in organized crime and ship
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know about the money launderer. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to read this one interesting fact, so California's
Speaker 1: Mulford Act, which fanned the open carrying load of weapons
Speaker 1: inventteen sixty seven was and the black gun owners about
Speaker 1: anti gun journalist Robert Cherroll frankly admitted that the Gun
Speaker 1: Control Acted NAT from eight shortly following after was passed
Speaker 1: not in control guns but control black. So it was
Speaker 1: following when the black member the Black Panthers very arms
Speaker 1: marshal the California State Capital. Um. It was interesting about
Speaker 1: the Gun Control actro nix eight. It was the first
Speaker 1: gun control law passed by COMMERSCE in thirty years, and
Speaker 1: Cheryl described it as one of the grand jokes of
Speaker 1: our times. First of all, he says very in mind
Speaker 1: that it was not passing one piece, but as a
Speaker 1: combination with two loss. The original n Act was passed
Speaker 1: control hand does after Roberd Martin Luther King Junior was
Speaker 1: this ass it is with a rifle. It was in
Speaker 1: repealed and repast to include the control of rifles and shotguns.
Speaker 1: After it's an assassination of Robert F. Kennedy with a handgun.
Speaker 1: What so like, it's like this big cosmic joke of like, oh,
Speaker 1: they killed the leader of our movement with a rifle.
Speaker 1: Let's bad hand us. Oh they kill the leader of
Speaker 1: this movement with a handgun. Let's go rifles. So it
Speaker 1: was like, clearly not even it's fun to act the
Speaker 1: violence like see is the public comassination at the time,
Speaker 1: but like not really doing actually anything anything at all. Okay,
Speaker 1: So guns and hip hop music the two things go
Speaker 1: together like p's and a pod, mashed potatoes and gravy.
Speaker 1: Fucking what am I missing bat Man in the Joker?
Speaker 1: I don't know? Anyway. For the music discussion today, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be looking towards some songs where the artists discussed
Speaker 1: their relationship with firearms or the relationships that firearms after
Speaker 1: their communities in some cases. Uh. And we're also doing
Speaker 1: something special for this one where Squally is going to
Speaker 1: be joining us for the music discussion today. But before
Speaker 1: we start, we're gonna take a quick little listen to
Speaker 1: Squally and some of his rhymes and how he incorporates
Speaker 1: some of his feelings about guns into his music. Let's
Speaker 1: hear this, ill keep you going on my weight? So
Speaker 1: I put up on king that trying to be bright niking,
Speaker 1: I want to smoke up on Jop. I get in
Speaker 1: my bag. I told me, I'm mag I'm putting a
Speaker 1: hand to scope. Never me. That was squal a song transport. Yo.
Speaker 1: My roommates are both dope. So the topic is brought
Speaker 1: up to the point where it's like looking for songs.
Speaker 1: I could find songs that were completely about guns, like
Speaker 1: where the subject matters, dedicated towards the topic of a gun.
Speaker 1: But besides that, the just references are endless rappers of
Speaker 1: all kind all backgrounds, all sub genres of hip hop,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can you can find somebody to make
Speaker 1: a reference to a gun. For some reason, it's there.
Speaker 1: It's the most talked about things. So how do you
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with, um, guns in your music, how
Speaker 1: do you how much of it is something that you
Speaker 1: really pay attention to or how much of it is
Speaker 1: just whatever sound and right, whatever is, whatever is working
Speaker 1: when you're when you're writing, Like, are you ever self
Speaker 1: conscious about gun bars? I didn't used to be, but
Speaker 1: now yeah, I work with kids and then they're coming
Speaker 1: in there sometimes like spit my lyrics. Um so now
Speaker 1: I'm a bit self conscious. But when I write and
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about guns is coming from expression and
Speaker 1: me speaking my truth and my experiences, uh not really
Speaker 1: for kids to go out here and be like, oh
Speaker 1: Squire said he'll do this, so I'll do this. Um.
Speaker 1: So the kids that know me understand that, and the
Speaker 1: ones that you know don't understand that. I try to
Speaker 1: pull to the side to say, hey, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not out here like you should make a song where
Speaker 1: you're discussing guns. You were talking to us about how
Speaker 1: how you think guns should be true, because it's like
Speaker 1: I think that is it's a common theme that we
Speaker 1: talked about. I was I definitely thought about that a
Speaker 1: lot um but it's you know, me being an artist,
Speaker 1: it's been a part of who I am, um, and
Speaker 1: you know I started out as a battle rapper and
Speaker 1: the gun metaphor and it's you couldn't really to get
Speaker 1: away from it. Well, it's it's funny how that because
Speaker 1: it's like before, you know, like when when hip hop started,
Speaker 1: like the whole ship is about exaggeration of power, you know,
Speaker 1: just like yo, I'm strong enough to smash through a wall.
Speaker 1: Then it just transferred it. You know, It's like I
Speaker 1: remember like it went through a phase to where it
Speaker 1: was like that sort of ship and it was like Yo,
Speaker 1: my rhymes are iller than yours. That it like transferred
Speaker 1: into I beat your ass and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the biggest gun. I kin there was it.
Speaker 1: Like I want to say that was late eighties when
Speaker 1: it started, but you know that, yeah, you know, drug
Speaker 1: but even then, like crime started rising, and even then
Speaker 1: it was like the late eighties when it started really
Speaker 1: affecting the music that I can't even explain it when
Speaker 1: think it's getting older, do you think it's you're getting
Speaker 1: older making you look at it? That to um, I
Speaker 1: used to be in the streets, now I'm not, and
Speaker 1: that kind of plays a party in two. UM. So
Speaker 1: my music used to just be solely just um violence
Speaker 1: and trapping and all this stuff because that's what I was,
Speaker 1: you know, engulfed in. And now you know, if you
Speaker 1: listen to my more recent stuff, it's more about like
Speaker 1: love and emotions and um struggled to triumph and coming
Speaker 1: out of valet mhm um consciousness. So I'm I'm growing
Speaker 1: out of it steadily. But at the same time, I
Speaker 1: love guns and uh and if I'm honest, sometimes this
Speaker 1: ship is just so fun to wrap about it really is.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there's nothing better than like somebody
Speaker 1: who's dope might just kicking a real clever gun bar,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like a dope gun metaphor.
Speaker 1: Like one of my favorite joints was there's Lloyd Banks
Speaker 1: ryme on this g in its song Thicker than Water.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to this line real quick packing mittle things.
Speaker 1: That small Pumer shot the Sacramento but she doesn't watch sports.
Speaker 1: The Sacramental Kings basketball team they had watching for they
Speaker 1: had a bunch of Forearns. Yeah that yeah, when they
Speaker 1: had Stoo and they had a bunch of them. That's
Speaker 1: a bar, yeah yeah. And the feeling, but that feeling
Speaker 1: is something about it. I don't know why. It's just
Speaker 1: something I like hearing about. I don't, I don't, you know.
Speaker 1: Every now and then, usually like it's if I'm telling
Speaker 1: like a story rap or something like that. So I
Speaker 1: don't really necessarily get to really go into like gunbar
Speaker 1: references and stuff. But I love the ship out of
Speaker 1: listening to it. Like the Griselda Cats, their ship is
Speaker 1: filled with gun bars. Um. The battle scene can be
Speaker 1: kind of battle scene is gun gun guns. It can
Speaker 1: be kind of weird just because it's like I don't
Speaker 1: know the some of that aura, the hip hop aura
Speaker 1: is gone because it's like it's it's more of like
Speaker 1: a live field. So it's like it's just something different.
Speaker 1: And when it's not like a movie music video production,
Speaker 1: when you're like seeing like two regular guys Joe My like,
Speaker 1: we're dude, Like I literally just saw you get out
Speaker 1: of the uber like thirty minutes ago, gunless like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You're talking, And that's what That's another thing I'm telling
Speaker 1: the kids. I'm like, so, you know, these rappers aren't
Speaker 1: really out here shooting people, right because if they were,
Speaker 1: they're being jail. What they're like, well, you know, we
Speaker 1: know it just sounds good as long as if they're
Speaker 1: saying that, that's what I was saying sounds good to them.
Speaker 1: And there's something about just in human nature. We we
Speaker 1: love violence and drama and we just love it. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. We don't get bored with
Speaker 1: positive songs. We'll get bored. We have to hear like
Speaker 1: some drama and stuff. I don't I don't really get it.
Speaker 1: Just like enough. So guns America Online, the firearm retailer
Speaker 1: and gun blog, made a direct correlation between the sales
Speaker 1: of the Draco pistol and the guns appearance and rap
Speaker 1: songs in seventeen from Vince Staples, twenty one, Savage, Gucci
Speaker 1: Man Yo Gotti, they all referenced the firearms popping up
Speaker 1: all arrested the poem where in California is considered an
Speaker 1: assault rifle and not a hand gun like it is
Speaker 1: in the rest of the states, and so he wasn't
Speaker 1: legally last that is the most referenced gun nowadays, the Draco. Well,
Speaker 1: that that trend happens. Um. I've been a lot long
Speaker 1: enough to see that happen a couple of times. I
Speaker 1: remember there was there's this gun called the Calico. It
Speaker 1: looks like you could you can literally just take it
Speaker 1: like on the set of Star Wars and give it
Speaker 1: to somebody without putting anything on it. And it looks
Speaker 1: like a Star Wars gun and ship. But when those
Speaker 1: first started popping up back in the nineties, like every
Speaker 1: rapper had a cow I got a Calico bar on
Speaker 1: the Desert Eagle. When the Desert Eagles started popping up,
Speaker 1: everybody had a Desert mac ten. The dude named himself
Speaker 1: mac Tent because the backten was such a popular guy.
Speaker 1: I think, is this is Calco something right? It's just
Speaker 1: kind of a little something that you're right. And then
Speaker 1: there's a forty cow rapper. There's got to be a
Speaker 1: rapper named every Smith and Western there's Yeah, that's definitely Draco.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of DraCos. Oh, there's a couple of DraCos.
Speaker 1: Draco Soldier calls himself Young Drake on that so Detroit
Speaker 1: rapper quality. Chris to dropped the album last year called Guns,
Speaker 1: and the whole thing was kind of a little metaphor
Speaker 1: or about America's relationship with guns and violence. He's weaving
Speaker 1: in and out stories throughout the album where he's you know,
Speaker 1: it goes from first person to third person to direct narratives,
Speaker 1: and he's playing all sorts of different characters and stuff
Speaker 1: on it. Um, he said to NPR, because the whole
Speaker 1: album is all about things that opponized for good or
Speaker 1: for evil. Religion, race, fear is more powerful than a gun.
Speaker 1: Everything is a weapon. I even talked to a couple
Speaker 1: of people this is him talking. I even talked to
Speaker 1: a couple of people that thought the first song was
Speaker 1: talking about me and my history is shooting people up
Speaker 1: and I'm like, nah, it's just a metaphor. Now, this
Speaker 1: album is a whole is dealing with you know, guns
Speaker 1: and gun violence and stuff like that. But we're gonna
Speaker 1: just take a little listen to a quick snippet from
Speaker 1: the song Obamacare, like qual a Chris and that Obama
Speaker 1: definitely something that feels like it requires multiple listens to.
Speaker 1: You know, the lyrics are delivered in that sort of
Speaker 1: way where it's like you're not meant to really soak
Speaker 1: everything in the first time you hear it. There's an
Speaker 1: abstract vibe to it. I took that everyone can get
Speaker 1: it like Obamacare to be you know, a reference. Knowing
Speaker 1: what he was going in doing with the whole album.
Speaker 1: I took that as a gun reference. So I'm sure
Speaker 1: if you listen to the whole thing, I'm sure at
Speaker 1: all gives you more of that picture. But if you
Speaker 1: don't understand it, you'll take it as if he's saying
Speaker 1: he's gonna apply something to everybody. Yeah, but he's really
Speaker 1: saying guns are so assistible, you know, speaking of accessibility
Speaker 1: to something that's a bit less abstract but still really
Speaker 1: clever in terms of like how it's put together. Is
Speaker 1: this Tupac song Me and My Girlfriend, not the jay
Speaker 1: Z Beyonce one they were covering come Back to See
Speaker 1: You Naked? Wouldn't that be? I ain't gonna lie. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm real laughing what he's talking about. I feel
Speaker 1: like my whole life is just in background. You know,
Speaker 1: he just realize. I'm just realizing it. Mine's blown. You
Speaker 1: don't have to say that like when I was not online,
Speaker 1: because he goes all the way to twenty two. Oh my,
Speaker 1: you just missed my whole life and squil Aid is
Speaker 1: just now discovering that. But that was kind of a
Speaker 1: thing back in the day. But yeah, I remember that
Speaker 1: was one of those early things whereas before I was
Speaker 1: rapping or before I was even thinking about making music.
Speaker 1: But it was one of those like standout songs where
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you hear that song. It's where he's
Speaker 1: talking about the gun, but he's talking about it like
Speaker 1: it's a girl. It's like, yo, oh, you can do
Speaker 1: this in music, you know what I mean. It is
Speaker 1: one of those sort of like lightbulb moments for me.
Speaker 1: I feel I shouldn't wrap no more. Like I'm a
Speaker 1: diehard Toobot fan and I'm pissed at myself because I
Speaker 1: took that so literal. Um, Let's listen to something that
Speaker 1: has a similar sort of vibe to it. But with
Speaker 1: this one, it's not the personification of like a girlfriend,
Speaker 1: but it's more of the There was a toy, the
Speaker 1: My Buddy toy back in the day that had a
Speaker 1: commercial that had a jingle, my buddy, my buddy, Wherever
Speaker 1: I go, he goes so g unit. Back in I
Speaker 1: think oh four, this was on that first album Back
Speaker 1: to the Mercy. They made a song called my Buddy
Speaker 1: where they took that jingle and it's all about guns
Speaker 1: and it's sucking awesome. I love it. Holy Ship Steve
Speaker 1: screaming on niggas, beating um vcs, nig sat Johny just
Speaker 1: like the tank say a little my little friend. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talking about let's talking about it. Oh yeah. So
Speaker 1: that I had the same sort of vibe that that
Speaker 1: I got from the Tupacs song when I discovered that one.
Speaker 1: But again that is the difference, right, like we just
Speaker 1: heard you just heard the tupocket You you put together
Speaker 1: that metaphor and it was dope and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, this is crazy. Man Like Tupacs going in.
Speaker 1: But let's be real, right, that whole Tupac song and
Speaker 1: that sixteen bars and Lloyd Banks first, like just the
Speaker 1: way Lloyd did it. We're just because you can't see this.
Speaker 1: This is like, this is why when people be like
Speaker 1: squalding your dope, I'm like, no, I'm not yo, because
Speaker 1: Lloyd Lloyd Banks is probably one of the most slipt
Speaker 1: on lyricist in the game. Oh man, he missed me
Speaker 1: up with that. And the last song for today is
Speaker 1: the Ludicrous track We Got Them Guns featuring like everybody
Speaker 1: chingy I twenty all the disturbing the Peace crew on
Speaker 1: this with Ludicrous. But but what can I say? This
Speaker 1: is probably my favorite gun song. They're not really making
Speaker 1: a big broad theme or metaphor like my buddy or
Speaker 1: me and my girlfriend. It's just straight up, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone's first they're talking about guns and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But because it's a CRUI song, everyone's trying to outdo
Speaker 1: each other with either how funny or how ridiculous the
Speaker 1: metaphor for their guns can be. So it just keeps
Speaker 1: escalating with each verse. Let's listen to this, caliber is
Speaker 1: not looking so good. Tomorrow is not on your calendar
Speaker 1: aware out. Yeah, they everybody killed that song. I can't
Speaker 1: believe that. I like the way he float on it. Well,
Speaker 1: there's there's something about I don't know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to say it specifically guns, but you know, I think
Speaker 1: money is definitely like money, and stunting is one of
Speaker 1: those topics. Sex is another one of those topics. But
Speaker 1: there's certain topics and hip hop where it's just like
Speaker 1: when a rapper gets into it, they can just snap
Speaker 1: and snap and probably will do like the best some
Speaker 1: of the best rapping that they'll do, like rapping about
Speaker 1: those topics specifically, because it's just I don't know, if
Speaker 1: it's just there's a so many things that rhyme with
Speaker 1: gun stuff. Then it's like, I don't know, it's it's
Speaker 1: how they explain. It's just it just happens. Because there's
Speaker 1: there's rappers that I that I like or that I
Speaker 1: love who are gun rappers. And you know, every bar
Speaker 1: is about my gun is like this and I'm shooting
Speaker 1: up this and I don't relate to that ship at all,
Speaker 1: like as a person, but when I get out of
Speaker 1: it is the same thing that I get from like
Speaker 1: a cool action scene in the movie or like a
Speaker 1: suspenseful scene and in a in a thriller movie. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, There's there's something that's just purely
Speaker 1: entertainment based about it that I've never found an issue with.
Speaker 1: But you know what, we are out of time. That
Speaker 1: is going to be it for us this week, everybody.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope that this episode has provided you
Speaker 1: with the proper amount of copium. It is Wednesday morning
Speaker 1: as we record this, like we said earlier, so you know,
Speaker 1: as of now, there's been no new developments in the election,
Speaker 1: so who knows what's going to happen. But um, if
Speaker 1: you've never thought about arming yourself, you know, guns are
Speaker 1: obviously not for everybody. They're definitely not for me. But
Speaker 1: we have to adapt to the realities that we live in,
Speaker 1: and I think we live in a reality where we
Speaker 1: might want to consider or reconsider things like that. UM
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Speaker 1: this could have been more of a celebratory episode, but hey,
Speaker 1: the fight continues. Stay safe out there, See you next week. Squally,
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Speaker 1: why I swear the rookie I'm already major league and yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm using imagery because use my enemy. Take your best
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