WEBVTT - Get the Strap 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:09.080 You're listening and waiting on reparations radio. You wait, No 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:16.320 reparations were waiting. My reparations begin black and strying harder 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.040 than the day's longest. To keep putting together, keep the calm, 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.520 and stay strong. Every day we've been reminded of retarding 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.160 to trade vol and to me and were in the 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.919 park furder forest play gut. So we fun from the jump, 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.000 from the start to day one. That's why we're telling 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.960 them they should pay up preparations for kids and their 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.159 kids and the generations that income. I ain't raising them 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:36.720 what I say from my jaws when they can't wait 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.320 to deploy. Sam has to stay when send My generation 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.520 of war politicians are all spineless propaganda. Obama drone way 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.040 more kids than Adam Lanza. Mama told me I'll be 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.919 the boss. Tony Danza more of a Georgia Stanza. Put 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.280 you one of my swagger. We're the ones you should 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.960 be just tipping your hat top And the Constitution is 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.960 ripped in the shadows. I'm looking at it with the 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:08.520 fund doesn't matter, yo, This is dope night. Were hurry up, yo. 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.920 As of now, it looks like Joey Joe Joe's is 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.720 making some progress. But we just got over one hectic 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:21.080 ass election night, as I'm sure a lot of you 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.080 out there did. Then. Yeah, I maybe slept two to 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.520 four hours a night every night. Yeah, yeah, you've been 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.200 You've been walking around the house kind of kind of 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.039 like I didn't. I didn't even know what to describe it. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.399 I was like, what because I don't want to say 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:42.640 nervous breakdown. But it's definitely bad. Well, Um, as you 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:45.679 guys all know, you know, it was too close to 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:49.280 call on the night of, but it really wasn't looking well. 0:01:50.040 --> 0:01:52.120 Um as we're recording this episode, which is going to 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:58.680 come out tomorrow, Um, there was a some shift in 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:00.880 in everything that happened, you know when I woke up 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.200 this morning, So Biden had just Wisconsin had just been 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.280 called for Biden, Arizona had been called for Biden, but 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:11.960 not by all of the news outlets. Um, it doesn't 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:16.760 look good in Pennsylvania right now, but apparently it doesn't matter. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:20.720 From my understanding of the situation, it seems like Joe 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:25.720 Biden's going to win electorally eventually. Now that doesn't mean 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.760 that the maggots aren't going to cheat. And I think 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.560 this election being as close as it is is kind 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.640 of um, it's asty, It's a travesty, and it it 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:41.040 totally is a repudiation of the strategy that the Democrats 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:47.120 used in trying to Republicans way Republicans fucking four sixty 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.919 seven million dollars into the pockets of the Lincoln Project. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.760 There are no good Republicans in this instance Republicans, and 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:57.160 I'm becoming increasingly doubtful about the goodness of the Democrats 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:02.160 well in any event, with everything kind of being tense 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:05.680 in the air, and with the selection still being up 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:09.640 for grabs, and with Donald Trump making his total and 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:16.560 absolute gestopo dictatorship playlist, night is outside of like a 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.320 polling place. I can't remember what city had said, chanting 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:24.560 stop the vote, Yeah, like I meaning stop the vote. 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.040 They're being really mask off about it right now. And 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.240 something that I've been saying for the last four years 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.480 is that people need to understand and come to grips 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:43.440 with the idea that at least half of the country 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:48.760 is cool with everything that Donald Trump is. People dead 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:56.600 like they got no problem. And the quicker that we 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:02.080 recognize this, I think the better off our ilk is 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.320 going to be. You know, what I'm saying. But anyway, 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.600 Ship's shops crazy. You know, people are getting attacked by 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:13.920 Trump supporters in the streets, polling stations, like Mariah just said, um, 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.520 people are having run ins where the other day they 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.960 chased some girl who had a Black Lives Matter thing 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.800 on her car and surrounded her. The cops aren't really 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.279 arresting them, and in some cases seem to be working 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.920 with them. So this got us kind of thinking. You know, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:32.440 you feel kind of naked in times like and like 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:39.680 exactly you know now as yeah, I hate labels and 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:41.680 stuff like that, but just for the sake of what 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.840 we're doing, as two people who are leftists are on 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:49.400 the left. You know, historically in our personal lives, we've 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.520 at least me, I was speaking for myself, but we've 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.400 been pretty staunchly anti gun like you know, as far 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:59.520 as like going down the checklist of things was the 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:02.720 way that we look at things. And I would say 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:08.039 sometime after COVID for me personally, but within the era 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.960 of post George Floyd, I know Mariah has been kind 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.680 of feeling this way to where our views on gun 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:19.880 ownership have damn near flipped in reverse. And I think 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.159 it's true for many who consider themselves liberals are on 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:27.279 the left. Um just given the precipitous rise and gun 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.000 sales over the last couple of months. Um I. And 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.160 but we'll talk about a little bit more in a second. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.960 But yeah, so today we'll talk a little bit about 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.600 the history of black gun ownership, some of the obtacles 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.360 that have been placed in our past historically, as well 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:46.800 as talk about our roommate and colleagues squally about you know, 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.880 having grown up with a very different view of guns 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.560 than us and sort of like the role guns play 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.680 in the black and hip hop communities. All right, let's 0:05:55.680 --> 0:06:00.480 get into it. The ship the be viewed as a 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.560 civil rights issue for black people since the days and abolition, 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.160 you know, yeah, the right to bear arms, the right 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.760 to BC is full citizens and be you know, protected 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.800 by the Second Amendment right to bear arms. And so 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.159 we're gonna look today and arguments for the importance of 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.520 army yourself. What you found their way into the music 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.760 of artists from w Way, Enemy, Garri Swan and more. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:28.719 But we also brought on our friend and fellocy entrepreneur, 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:35.040 activist and the third roommate of our l Rappo traphouse, Yo, 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:40.280 what's up. I'm here. I'm exhausted, but I'm honored to 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.320 be all you guys this podcast. This is late. All 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.080 three of us are exhausted, but it's like different levels 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:50.320 of exhausted, right, Like y'all are exhausted, like Yo, like 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.640 actually putting into work, and I'm exhausted, like man, I 0:06:53.680 --> 0:07:01.520 wrote like three songs today, So I'm like, I'm dead. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.080 Are you? Can I call you a gun inducis definitely 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.839 definitely yeah, at the very least your gun owner. I'm 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.920 definitely an owner, definitely gun owner. So Mac and I 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:14.680 our views have changed considerably on the topic of guns 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.520 in recent months, as have many folks on the left, 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:21.080 but usually have been as a gun owner. I might 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:24.800 say I love gun and so we wanted to bring 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.480 it in the perspective by somebody that's been gun toting 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:34.920 for a minute. I like that for a minute, for 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:38.240 two minutes. So Mac, you and I have both changed 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:41.240 our views considerably around the topic of guns in recent months, 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.320 as that many people on the left, and I want 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:45.840 to talk a little bit about where that comes from 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:49.800 for me in particular, like, well, I remember, I'll never 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.760 forget when I was in the mental hospital in two 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.840 thousand nineteen, and then an eighteen year old girl. She 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.800 was a new mother and she's been putting the hospital 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.800 because she'd expressed suicidal thoughts after her husband, who was 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:04.520 a veteran, was drunk one night, went and shout himself 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:09.280 to death in their bathroom. And back then I thought 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.760 a lot about how many people would probably still be 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.560 with us here today if there were stricted gun control 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.600 laws in this country. And the first time I ever 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.320 thought about buying gun was two, that's sixteen. I was 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.600 a really enough time. I was like, all right, I'm 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:27.000 ending this peace out, maybe this maybe I'm like hit 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:29.000 up the gun shop, and like that's why I knew 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.680 I could never own one up And yeah, I'm said, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:34.760 so yeah, I thought I would never own one. I 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.080 still know, But you know, i'd been looking out fine, 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:41.920 but lots of regarding buying guns, we're gonna talk about 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.480 will make the switch for you, So okay. So I 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.440 realized this summer that the people who have been harassing 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.360 me and like the rending my life are probably gun owners. 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:53.320 And I thought to myself, why would I sit back 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.480 and remain defenseless and never one never want to take 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.120 a life. But if they come for me, they come 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.079 for me. Ought to be ready. And particularly there was 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.880 a couple of incidences like of protesting where that I 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.800 was with leftists who had guns. I was protesting white 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.400 people who had like r like that, and so like 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.520 for example, when we went to we counter protesting against 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.200 these white supremoses and Stone Mountain, there was a ton 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.720 there was a ton of like Antifa with like guns, 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:27.240 and I felt like really calm being around like a supremos. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.720 I was like, oh, forgot unstrap and then like yeah, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.800 same thing at the Erwin County Attention Center when we 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.880 drove down to also the Georgia to like protest Ice, 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.600 the organizers were like everybody staying in the cars, there's 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:45.960 a militia here. And then I was scan the crowd 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:49.000 and that solid dude like the A R art again 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:54.000 when I was like I'm marching. Yeah, that increasingly, but 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.480 none of that in these scenarios were like I was 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.079 put at ease by the fact like we had guns too, 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:06.520 because brought me around the line. I mean, I think 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.840 it's weird, like I've my views have changed like yours 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:11.920 we were talking about the other day, But at the 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:14.120 same time, they're kind of the same. It's like a 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:16.920 practical way that I look at it, because it's like, 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:21.960 all right, so guns literally have no other function than 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:25.880 to make it to to allow a human being to 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:30.360 kill something in the most efficient way possible with the 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:36.520 least amount of effort. Well, I mean, it's funny. It's 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:42.320 like I've almost completely adapted the right wing position on 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.320 gun ownership and stuff, which is like, I have a 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.840 I have a legitimate fear of government induced tyranny at 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:53.280 this point, so you know, I mean, first and foremost, 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.720 my biggest gripe with pro gun people who has always 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.040 been just keep it real about what you're doing and 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.720 what you want, you know. So it's of a motherfucker 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.400 being like, yo, I need this gigantic a R with 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:08.320 the scope and extended clip because if I don't have that, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:11.480 then I can't defend my family. It's like, YO, shut 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.440 the funk up, you know what I'm saying. Instead of 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:19.079 just coming out and being like yo, I like collecting these. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.560 I like taking pictures of myself with them. I like 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.440 fred him out on the floor and then looking at them, 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.200 you know what I'm saying. I like taking videos where 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.920 I'm posing that I like going to the shooting range 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.760 and shooting stuff. I mean, it's still goofy as the funk, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:38.199 but I it's just when motherfucker's is lying and not 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:42.079 being real, that's what kisses me off. But again, if 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:48.400 in two thousand and twelve or two thousand thirteen, you 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.880 were worried about, oh man, Obama is gonna come with 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.280 the female camps and the jack booted thugs are gonna 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.280 put us in hobbit homes and you know what I mean, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.680 he's gonna declare marsh lah blah blah blah blah. That 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.880 was the right wing position on why you know, the 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:09.400 kids getting shot up in Sandy Hook wasn't enough of 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:14.040 a reason for gun reform. So now I'm saying, oh, yeah, 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:16.440 well everybody should own a gun because I mean the 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.640 cops literally, you literally can get abducted off the street 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:25.200 by dudes in tactical gear and you don't know if 0:12:25.200 --> 0:12:29.360 their cops are not. So the danger that conservatives have 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.960 historically always been laughing about is now a reality for 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:38.160 people like me and Yaw And now as a result, 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.800 I think every man, woman and child should be armed 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:46.480 and trained. Straight up. Now, my view still hold in 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.440 terms of what the negative effects of that are, you know, 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.199 mass shooting and the effects that guns have on crime, YadA, YadA. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.360 I just feel that the political situation kind of outweighs 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.560 those risks. I mean, I'm sure that the science and 0:12:59.559 --> 0:13:03.120 the number are still hold up. That they're being more 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:08.200 guns than people in the country's like not good, Like 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:13.800 your niggers know that's bad, right, But as it stands now, 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.640 you know, there's three hundred million plus guns in the country, 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:21.600 and it's definitely not the majority of people who own that. So, 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.520 just like with everything, you know, if guns are power, 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.200 then it's being hoarded by those who can afford to 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.040 hoard them. And you know, now, I really think we're 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.040 in a reality where it's like, you gotta wonder why 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.360 they're hoarding them, and let me get some, let me 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:40.400 get let me get a couple of those. Uh. I 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:45.600 have mixed views about guns. Um even though your owner, 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:49.760 because I like, a gun to me was survival, it 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.480 was it was survival for me. Um. I grew up 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:58.200 in a completely dangerous atmosphere um to where a gun 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:04.000 was a necessity even being a kid ten eleven years old. UM, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.960 So my perception on a gun would be different from 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:11.439 someone who doesn't share those experiences. Um. But I also 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.480 feel like a gun in the wrong hands is a 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:19.080 problem as well. Um Am. I like so avid on 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:23.480 the laws. I never really cared about them, honestly. My 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.680 first gun, I was ten years old. It was a 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.440 small twenty two um and my brother gave it to me. 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.480 But you know, when he gave it to me, he 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.680 told me this was for survival and you're never You're 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.600 never using it unless you know you're defending yourself. Other 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:43.880 than that, like your gun is in the house put up, Um, 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.400 it's for your protection. Um. But then you get those 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.960 people that have guns and they're just crazy or whatever. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.360 So I definitely got some mixed views on it. I 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.240 just know myself personally, I'm very levelheaded and I'm probably 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:58.840 not gonna pull out a gun or anything or do 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:02.680 anything crazy or it up at school or anything of 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.760 that sort. But I do want to feel protected and safe. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.960 So can you think of can you think of a 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.200 time when you're growing up where like you feel like, 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.320 looking back now that you're a girl, asks man, or 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:18.000 you're like, damn if I hadn't had a piece, Yeah, 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:22.120 I might not be here right now, like that that 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:26.200 never happened a couple man, like a couple. My um 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.400 my dad was murdered when I was a child, and 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.360 if I didn't have a gun to shoot back, I 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:34.080 probably would have been killed too. And I and I 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.520 wasn't shooting back to aim. I was just shooting just 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.400 to scare people. Um And to me that I feel 0:15:40.440 --> 0:15:43.000 like that saved my life. And I know a lot 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:46.000 I have a lot of friends that got themselves out 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.760 of like crazy situations just because they showed a gun. 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.240 They didn't even have to shoot it, they just showed 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.840 it and it got them out of certain things. So 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.680 you know, it's it's good and bad with guns. You 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.320 just kind of gotta take it for what it is. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.480 I feel like it's just like any other power, you 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.760 know what I'm saying, Like in in reality, there's like 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:12.200 only two things that you can really consider to be 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.880 like a superpower, having a billion dollars, and if you 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.520 have a billion dollars, you're a gun. You can change 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.720 the physical reality around you, you know what I'm saying, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:26.960 Like you can do they don't want to do billion 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:30.640 dollars or a gun. It makes me think what if 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.760 the Native Americans had guns, or what if the Africans 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.560 had had guns? If the Africans actually had guns, um, 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.400 then then where would the course of history have win? 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.800 All a gun is as a tool, Like my I'm 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:48.640 my father was in the military, so like I have 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.280 like a military upbringing like that to where it's like 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.880 guns were even when watching movies, it's like it's always 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:58.360 like treated technical and like a serious thing. So I'm 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.840 gonna be taken serious. That's why as I grew up, 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.080 not only was it like having that sort of like 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.520 attitude towards guns where it's like the serious thing that's 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.280 not to play with. Then on top of that, you know, 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:13.080 I'm Liberian. So when the war happened, and then it's 0:17:13.119 --> 0:17:17.240 like you're actually seeing gun violence, and you're seeing more 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.000 than actually seeing gun violence, you're seeing the effects of 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.160 gun violence. Like every other week, my mom's like learning 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.359 that somebody that she knows got shot, or this cousin 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:27.359 here got shot. At this with my grandma, you know, 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.960 and it's just like, oh damn. You know when people 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.760 are like spraying like this and not looking like the 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.640 bullets go somewhere, and they they do, you know, they 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:40.280 really do what if the what of the Africans had guns? 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:44.160 And it made me think the naturnal rebellion and that 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:48.280 the muskets and firearms were too difficult for them to 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:52.200 collect for their rebellions but draw so much attention to themselves. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.480 I think at this time, um, yeah, eight thirties, there's 0:17:56.480 --> 0:18:00.400 a lot of the books of like guns, like actually 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:04.000 go and confiscate if you go into any like black home, 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.000 even if you're a free man, and like to just 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.800 take wofully sees waping. So they didn't want to draw 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:14.720 attention to themselves, so they use knives, hatchets, access he 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.679 killed a woman with a fence post. Sounds like some 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:22.560 current day stuff the very course of American history. It's 0:18:22.640 --> 0:18:31.320 like natural. Why were the Black panthers so dangerous? Logically dangerous, Yeah, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:34.480 but you know they did it in a way to 0:18:34.560 --> 0:18:37.440 where it was like we're protecting our own we're protecting 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:41.480 our people, our streets, we're not killers, were not dangerous, 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.679 but we're gonna stand up for what we believe in. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.680 So I think that it's based on the owner man, 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.239 like you could you get those people that shouldn't have 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.840 a gun at all, like the white boy that's getting bullied. 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.040 I don't know how, but he has a gun. He 0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:59.760 shouldn't have a gun. Well, I mean that that's just one. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:04.240 That's just one like a specific like archetype of what 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:09.520 you're talking about though, but like that that thing exists 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:14.960 that you're describing, it like exists in all humans, especially 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:19.639 men in Texas, that same sort of like mentality that 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.080 like the same thing that the white kid is going 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:26.000 through when he gets bullied. It's like I gotta take 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:30.320 a gun to school. Obviously it's not the same because 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.680 you know, black people don't really take those shot everybody, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.280 but it's like but but that same sort of sense 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.720 of like, oh, something I was wrong and now I 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.160 need to exert my will through the power of a gun. 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.360 Like the same thing that's going on internally with that kid. 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.440 It's the same thing that happens when somebody's on a 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.400 ball court and they get embarrassed and they gonna start 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.159 licking shot or even shooting somebody. You know, it's that 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.119 same sort of like feeling. That's how That's one of 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:58.960 the things that made me feel like I shouldn't own 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.800 a gun because was when I was like younger in 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.679 my early twenties. I was had like an ill Napoleon 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.280 complex and was like, Yo, I'm gonna start to fight 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.879 first because I'm sure it's like I'm gonna be the 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.159 wildest motherfucker there and then all I would to have 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.640 my back and ship like that, so I would get 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.359 in fights, and I know that like when I'm in 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:24.479 a fight with a bigger person, just like and drinking, 0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:26.400 you know what I mean, And I'm a drinker, it's 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.240 like I don't need to And it's not not just like, oh, 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:31.520 I'm gonna like go out with a gun and ship 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:32.960 like that, but it's like I don't need to come 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.240 home to a gun being in the house back then, 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:36.680 you know what I'm saying. As far as the way 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:39.119 I was looking at it, then okay, Well, given that 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.399 I said that, you know, nobody's really, at least nobody 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:44.720 I know of, it's really advocating for let's take all 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.240 the guns away. Squally, What do you feel about the 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:53.439 just restrictions on guns and legislation on guns. Do you 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.600 think that anybody, everybody should just be able to own 0:20:55.640 --> 0:21:01.399 any gun, no um and death something that I feel 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.760 like the Black community, we have guns, but we don't 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:09.640 know how to use them or win to use them. UM. 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.320 I don't think like the average civilians should just be 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:15.280 able to go and buy freaking a R fifteen or 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:21.919 a K That's ridiculous. Um. Handguns are okay, UM, but 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.600 it's all based on the own it really is. UM. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.400 I have you know some big guns that I've never 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:32.840 even put out unless it's probably like kind of crazy war. Um. 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.879 But that's me, you know, I'm I'm a logical thinker. 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:38.119 I'm not gonna just go and shoot someone and just 0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.000 end up in prison for the rest of my life. UM. 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.240 Guns are like so easy to get. You can get 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:44.879 a gun before you can get a car or a 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:48.640 house or it's like it's really insane fanning certain kinds 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:52.439 of firearms. Is that you think you're a turn criminals 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:56.440 from doing criminal as considers creating criminals because you're feeding 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.280 an underground market the same way that like you might 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.760 as well lines of drugs because at least then you 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:04.920 can get you know, he treated in the public health 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.560 does you get healthy? Got problems all about boards? You 0:22:08.600 --> 0:22:10.560 can regulate this as they ain't putting vanil in the 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.960 heroin or whatever. My as wealth may go down little 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:17.640 so you can regulate them heavily. It's it's a it's 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.520 a slippery shoa. What about back in the day Chris 0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:23.440 rock had a Was it Chris Rock? I forget it 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:25.720 might have been Chris Rocker Davie somebody had a joke 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.240 or a bit back in the day where they're like, yo, 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:32.560 you should make guns super expensive and like make bullets 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:36.160 cast of five hundred dollars so that motherfucker's will think 0:22:36.200 --> 0:22:40.399 twice before they shoot people and ship that's true, and 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:44.040 then that could also cause some type of weird situation 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:49.040 when people only rich people can have guns. President for this, 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:54.560 so in Illinois singled out poor citizens for a gun 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.320 band by starting out it is late nine eight, the 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.280 Chicago House of Authority, the Chicago Police apart a man 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:05.560 UM enacted a policy Operation Clean Suite, which applied to 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:08.760 all housing units owned and operated by the Chicago Housing Authority, 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:12.040 and the purpose was the confiscation of firearms and illegal 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:15.639 art products and war of the searches. They're doing war 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:20.399 less searches. Um. They had a visitor exclusive policy, so 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.200 severely limiting the right of c J C a J 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:28.040 tenants to associate with with associated their residences, the family 0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:31.480 members and other guests and all these restricted policies. But 0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:33.520 they pretty much said, if you live in public housing, 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.679 we're gonna come take your guns, and the a c 0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:40.840 l U, this is the a c l U file 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:47.840 the lawsuits UM against it, saying that um, that's technically 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:51.040 against your constitutional right for right suits to say pore 0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:54.200 people can't have them. We made Oh, let's make both ways, 0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.119 but a little make freends, lay yourself up. It's suscriminatory 0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.679