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Speaker 1: thought that was a good point that right wingers had

428
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: about guns, like yo, you don't want these jackbooted thugs

429
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: to come to your house. But as I got older

430
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: and thought about it more, I started feeling like, you're

431
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: not gonna fucking stop the army. Dude, you know, I'm

432
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't care who you I don't care how many

433
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: guns you have, evan your arsenal or whatever. If they're

434
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: coming for you. You're not going to stop them. Like terrors.

435
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's that like got mad bombs and guns in layers

436
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: and basses where they've been training for this ship since

437
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: they were eight. The motherfucker's get murked. And you think

438
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get murked and fucking Wichita or some ship.

439
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: The military is not gonna find you in Wichita. Dude,

440
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: you're hidden, you're good, you're safe. And then even when

441
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: ship does go down, that's not who you're gonna have

442
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 1: to fight, you know what I'm saying. It's like you're

443
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to fight like other citizens. You know, if

444
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: the ship were to go down like that, which we

445
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: don't want it to happen because don't, but just hypothetically,

446
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 1: if the ship goes down, it's gonna be good old

447
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: boys and pickup trucks riding around like the Taliban and

448
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: ship that you're gonna have to worry about. And that's

449
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 1: not gonna be necessarily the troops or any official troops

450
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: that are trying to put you down. Scary s, very

451
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: scary stuff. I just don't like the situation. Man deal.

452
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: The gun ranges are always in the like white neighborhoods.

453
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: So like the richer white people get to learn how

454
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: to shoot guns and they get to do it for leisure,

455
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: and then in the black neighborhoods the guns are for

456
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: like survival and population control. Well, how do you feel

457
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: when you when you go up to the shooting rangeing, like,

458
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 1: have you ever been the one? I mean I've been

459
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: the yeah before the one. I can promise you you're

460
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: gonna be the only black person ye know when I went,

461
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: When I went, yous been like a barrier for me

462
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: to like get into it my gun. It's like I'm

463
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: gonna trying to like I'm not going to applyde armory

464
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: or they have like trump twine putty four signs outside

465
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: and I'm not going down to the gun range where

466
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna be. Like, it's even weird being black when

467
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: you're when you're black and you walk in a gun range,

468
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: it's like everybody's turning, like because it's a it's a

469
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: cultural it's a cultural thing, you know what I'm saying.

470
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: Like the sort of white people that are giving you

471
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: that look are like steeped in gun culture that like

472
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: excludes black people. Yes, and they're in there with their

473
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: freaking five year old son and five year old daughter

474
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: and they both got a RS and they know how

475
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: to shoot, and we don't. We don't know how to shoot.

476
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: We aim at everything, we don't know. We just don't.

477
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: We don't have knowledge of guns or anything. We just

478
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: get them. I'm I'm I'm seeing Killer Mike in the

479
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: outline where this is a very loose episode late this job.

480
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm seeing Killer Mike in the outline. But you're just

481
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: saying that reminded me of something that Killer Mike was

482
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: talking about one time where he was talking about like,

483
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: you're not ready for the revolution if you don't like,

484
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: you don't know martial art, your kids don't know how

485
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: to shoot guns. And oh you gotta think, what what

486
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: do most black kids grow up wanting to do? Play basketball, football,

487
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: wrap or wrap, and white kids get put in like

488
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: workers from ballet mars. This household just that, I'm telling

489
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: you it's insane. You will go in there and see

490
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: a six year old white kid with the a are

491
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: disassembling the magazine. He'll he'll he'll empty the thirty clip

492
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: and all thirty bullets will be in the center of

493
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: the freaking target. Like they know how to shoot, their

494
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: train as kids how to shoot. It's like a common

495
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: thing for them. It's insane. That's what I feel like

496
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: with our people. If we're gonna have guns, we need

497
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: to know how to utilize guns. But I mean, it's like,

498
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: and we'll get into it when we talk a little

499
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: bit about, you know, the guns and rap music and stuff,

500
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 1: but the sort of gun culture that exists within like

501
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: the black community. And I don't want to use that

502
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: as a blanket term, but it's just like the white

503
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: people's gunship is like again, it's like that, Yo, this

504
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: is a tool I would take. I'm gonna teach my

505
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: son how to break this down. Blah blah blah blah,

506
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And whereas I feel like

507
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: with our ship, it's more glorified. Yeah, it's more glorified.

508
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: It's it's more of a civil social status, you know

509
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like it is not a civil

510
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: social status a certain kind of person, Yeah it is.

511
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: But I mean Andrew Clyde running for Congress and the

512
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: ninth district in Georgia has a fucking like a R

513
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: on his campaign signs some people's yards. There's a part

514
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: of it that's a status symbol to his bubble of people.

515
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: But then another aspect of it is virtue signaling on

516
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: like a set of political beliefs. A politician showing you

517
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: that he's a proud gun owner lets you know, like

518
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: se of what his positions are without However, when fucking

519
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: Chief Keith points there to the a k at the

520
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: camera with thirty shirtless niggas and they all got the camera,

521
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't have that same poetical behind it, right, what

522
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, he's right, it's like for us, yeah, for

523
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: for us, Yeah, like he's right, because for us it's

524
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: like some sort of like expression. Um, there's no anything

525
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: behind it. It's just, oh, I got this, I'm cool.

526
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: It's so weird, so weird. They're never holding the guns right, nobody.

527
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: No one's looking through a skulle. It's horrible. What's the skull,

528
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: what's the sighting, what's the nig It's terrible. And white

529
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: kids are learning about guns from when they're like three

530
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: to four. They're gonna give them a baby gun or

531
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: like a water gun. They're gonna know how to use that,

532
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna start huntings and they're gonna how

533
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: to use a shotgun. By the time they're like fourteen

534
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: and fifteen, they're gonna be fully versed in a handgun,

535
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: in a shotgun, and in a semi automatic. The average

536
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: black kid will never get that type of experience. And

537
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: let's let's keep it real though. And it's like, I

538
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: don't want to say that. I don't think we should

539
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: try to make it seem like that's like white people.

540
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: There's there's a there's there's an overwhelming amount of white

541
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: people that are I don't funk with guns like that.

542
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: It really is like a weirdo minority. I mean, look,

543
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: I am telling you all that as of now, my

544
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: mindset is every man, woman and child should owe the gun.

545
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: That's true. And also if you own like fifty guns,

546
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: you're fucking weirdo. You know, I'm sorry, you're weird. It

547
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: does look cool in like a call of duty sort

548
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: of way, but it's fucking weird. I don't have the numbers,

549
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: but I do think it's some sort of crazy sort

550
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: of ship where it's like some large percentage of the

551
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: guns and the country's owned just like with money, it's

552
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: owned by a small amount of the population, like has

553
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: all the guns and stuff like that like, it's not.

554
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: It's not. You can't just be like, hey, I'm just

555
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: gonna pick a random white person off of our block

556
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: and I bet you god motherfucker got a dungeon full

557
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: of guns. It's just the teachings behind it. I really

558
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: can't explain. I don't know if it's like the environment

559
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: is we just black, We don't utilize guns the way

560
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: we should. There's no teachings. There's now how would squally

561
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: if Squally ruled the world and you could make that change,

562
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: what attitude would you instill in like black families and

563
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: black communities in general about like guns and stuff, protection

564
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: um protection only. Do you think that there's something that

565
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: can be done by people like us culturally to like

566
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: helps get that message across. I think that our like

567
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: black veterans and people that are well versed with guns

568
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: and well skilled with guns, if they got together and

569
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: created some sort of school or organization to where they

570
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: would teach the kids on how to use the guns

571
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: and we're there for and and still those like principles

572
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: in those children. I think that would be a good idea.

573
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 1: Teach our kids don't know military tactics, Our kids don't

574
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: know combatives. They don't know if we if we had

575
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: a civil war today, our kids wouldn't survive it. Man.

576
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: If the fucking electricity and internet went out for three months,

577
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: motherfucker's would start eating each other in this country. If

578
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: you told Americans that their big mac had to have

579
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: one less patty, these motherfucker's would start tearing each other's.

580
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: Flash off. This toping m guns today because it need

581
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: Since March. So in the twelve days after Trump issued

582
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: a proclamation declaring national emergency because of COVID firearms, salves

583
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: jumped over a hundred twenty thousand per day. Oh my god,

584
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: hundred seventy six thousand on March sixteen, and then a

585
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand additional firearms was sold in March. Uh.

586
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: Some analysis done by the Brookings Institute suggested almost three

587
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: million more firearms have been sold from March to July

588
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: than ordinary. That increase occurred in June alone. So, I mean,

589
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: this is a hot but this it's like a hot

590
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: topic right now. That was excited talk to like anarchists

591
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: and people like that, and they're like, oh, I was

592
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: talking about guns, and they're all very pro oh my guns.

593
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: But it's like if ship really goes down and there's

594
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: like massivil unrest to the point that like the supply

595
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: chain started breaking down, there's no food to the grocery store.

596
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: We should really get concerned about. Do you know how

597
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: to grow your own food for sure, you know how

598
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: to sell your unclothes for sure, you get pressuring water

599
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: for sure, and so yeah, I mean, like if we're

600
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: really talking about and it goes downloads down, that's the same.

601
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: There isn't even the first thing to be And it's crazy.

602
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: We only needed done because you don't have any of

603
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: the other necessary supplies to it's gonna be people loving

604
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: each other because they don't they're down. What did I

605
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: ask you when when fucking COVID first hit you? Remember

606
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: I think Mariah might have been out. I think you

607
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: might have been to go see your mom. And I

608
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: was like, yo, little brother hold one of them thinks yeah,

609
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Because there was this there

610
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: was this feeling COVID it like in the beginning felt

611
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: like felt like it was about to be mad. I

612
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: felt like it's gonna be some crazy stuff. On walking understanding,

613
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: it's crazy that you mention June because the gun shop

614
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: on Lexington Road. I can't remember them. Thornton's, they dropped

615
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: their gun prices like like a hundreds of two hundred dollars.

616
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: There was like nine millimeters on sale for eighty dollars.

617
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: A gun shouldn't cost less than the PlayStation. Man. Yeah, so,

618
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean during that time they dropped PlayStation controller. Man.

619
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Go on, you were talking about the fact that like

620
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: there's not guns upon the black community. Do you say

621
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: days if you want, oh, should the PlayStation? Did you

622
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: just want only weird people happen? Na, That's not what

623
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's more of a comment about proliferation, which,

624
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: in the context of guns, I think is kind of

625
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: universally a bad thing because even your proliferation of guns

626
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: can even be a way of targeting communities in a way.

627
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: If in a poor community or a black community, if

628
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: all of the males have easier access to a gun

629
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: than a fucking job, that's not you know, that's not

630
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: a sign that the gun companies are saying, Yo, we

631
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: really care about black people. Let's make sure they're all

632
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: armed so they can stop the fucking proud boys. You know,

633
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: that's gun proliferation to an at risk community, So that

634
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: they kill each other. Like I'm poor. If you were

635
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: to tell me you're mac buy a PlayStation, get a

636
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: PlayStation five, Okay, I gotta think about it. I gotta

637
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: ligne some ship up. I gotta make sure some ship

638
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: is taken care of, and I have to do all

639
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: that sort of thinking and planning into like all right,

640
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm about to make the investment on a PlayStation five

641
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: because I need that. Whereas if you told me, Yo, Matt,

642
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: get a gun, I could get a gun by new

643
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: in tomorrow and it wouldn't put that big of a

644
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: death in my wallet. I'm not really opposed to people

645
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: having guns, but have you haven't have you guys ever

646
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: tried to buy one. No, there's no psychological evaluation when

647
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: you purchase the gun. Anyone. If you're eighteen and above

648
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: and not a felon, you can purchase a gun. It's

649
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 1: the same process, like there's no psychic evaluation to determine

650
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: if a police officer it's racist or not before you

651
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: put them into the academy. It's the same thing. So

652
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: it's not the people. It's not that people have guns.

653
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: Is there's no way to see who's unstable enough for

654
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 1: who shouldn't have one. But it's interesting to me because

655
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: the gun control active, which is a battle law regulating

656
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: the firearms industry and firearms owners. Man, it's so that

657
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: it's unawful for anyone's candida is a mental defective or

658
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: has been permitted to any mental institution, illegal for them

659
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: to the firearms. I don't know. Let me tell nobody,

660
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: nobody's following that. You shop and you got five dollars,

661
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna and not a felon, you're gonna get a gun.

662
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: The only thing they'll do is uh submitted background check

663
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: and if it comes through good, you'll get that gun.

664
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: You mean, host of the fire US. Oh, that's stick.

665
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: It depends on the crime allows for returning citizens to

666
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: purchase firearms. I think if if there was this, if

667
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: prison was actually a place for rehabilitation, yeah, then I

668
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: would say wholesale. Yeah. But because it's not, nobody kind

669
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: of want to know what you did. Yeah, I agree.

670
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: Prison isn't fixing anybody. These those feelings get out worse

671
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 1: than what they were when they went in. I don't

672
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: that's a steaky one because I don't feel like feelings

673
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: deserve a lot of the things that they go through

674
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, for sure for not being able to vote

675
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: and hard for them to get jobs. And um, I

676
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: feel like, if you've done your time and all that

677
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: good stuff, you should have your second chance without the

678
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: big if on your forehead. If that means only the gun, sure, Um,

679
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: but I guess based on the crime, Like if they

680
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: went through prison for um, laundering money, you know what,

681
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: like you well see that. I don't know if that

682
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: should determine that they shouldn't have a gun or not.

683
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: Like if somebody if somebody was in jail for like

684
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: robbing a liquor store and they got out, I'm saying

685
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: somebody was in jail for like, oh, like when I

686
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: was a kid, I wasn't being a leader and I

687
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: was being a follower and I ended up robbing a

688
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: liquor store and I went to jail and I paid

689
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: my price and blah blah. I'd be more comfortable with

690
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: that person getting out and having like all their gun

691
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: rights fully restored, then I would a motherfucker who's getting

692
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: out after being heavily involved in organized crime and ship

693
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know about the money launderer. I

694
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: didn't want to read this one interesting fact, so California's

695
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: Mulford Act, which fanned the open carrying load of weapons

696
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: inventteen sixty seven was and the black gun owners about

697
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: anti gun journalist Robert Cherroll frankly admitted that the Gun

698
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: Control Acted NAT from eight shortly following after was passed

699
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: not in control guns but control black. So it was

700
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: following when the black member the Black Panthers very arms

701
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: marshal the California State Capital. Um. It was interesting about

702
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: the Gun Control actro nix eight. It was the first

703
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: gun control law passed by COMMERSCE in thirty years, and

704
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: Cheryl described it as one of the grand jokes of

705
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: our times. First of all, he says very in mind

706
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: that it was not passing one piece, but as a

707
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: combination with two loss. The original n Act was passed

708
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: control hand does after Roberd Martin Luther King Junior was

709
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: this ass it is with a rifle. It was in

710
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: repealed and repast to include the control of rifles and shotguns.

711
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: After it's an assassination of Robert F. Kennedy with a handgun.

712
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: What so like, it's like this big cosmic joke of like, oh,

713
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: they killed the leader of our movement with a rifle.

714
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: Let's bad hand us. Oh they kill the leader of

715
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: this movement with a handgun. Let's go rifles. So it

716
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: was like, clearly not even it's fun to act the

717
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: violence like see is the public comassination at the time,

718
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: but like not really doing actually anything anything at all. Okay,

719
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: So guns and hip hop music the two things go

720
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 1: together like p's and a pod, mashed potatoes and gravy.

721
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: Fucking what am I missing bat Man in the Joker?

722
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: I don't know? Anyway. For the music discussion today, we're

723
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: gonna be looking towards some songs where the artists discussed

724
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: their relationship with firearms or the relationships that firearms after

725
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: their communities in some cases. Uh. And we're also doing

726
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: something special for this one where Squally is going to

727
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: be joining us for the music discussion today. But before

728
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: we start, we're gonna take a quick little listen to

729
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: Squally and some of his rhymes and how he incorporates

730
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: some of his feelings about guns into his music. Let's

731
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: hear this, ill keep you going on my weight? So

732
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: I put up on king that trying to be bright niking,

733
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: I want to smoke up on Jop. I get in

734
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: my bag. I told me, I'm mag I'm putting a

735
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: hand to scope. Never me. That was squal a song transport. Yo.

736
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: My roommates are both dope. So the topic is brought

737
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: up to the point where it's like looking for songs.

738
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: I could find songs that were completely about guns, like

739
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: where the subject matters, dedicated towards the topic of a gun.

740
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: But besides that, the just references are endless rappers of

741
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: all kind all backgrounds, all sub genres of hip hop,

742
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can you can find somebody to make

743
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: a reference to a gun. For some reason, it's there.

744
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: It's the most talked about things. So how do you

745
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with, um, guns in your music, how

746
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: do you how much of it is something that you

747
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: really pay attention to or how much of it is

748
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: just whatever sound and right, whatever is, whatever is working

749
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 1: when you're when you're writing, Like, are you ever self

750
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: conscious about gun bars? I didn't used to be, but

751
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: now yeah, I work with kids and then they're coming

752
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: in there sometimes like spit my lyrics. Um so now

753
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm a bit self conscious. But when I write and

754
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: when I'm talking about guns is coming from expression and

755
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: me speaking my truth and my experiences, uh not really

756
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: for kids to go out here and be like, oh

757
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: Squire said he'll do this, so I'll do this. Um.

758
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: So the kids that know me understand that, and the

759
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: ones that you know don't understand that. I try to

760
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: pull to the side to say, hey, you know, I'm

761
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: not out here like you should make a song where

762
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: you're discussing guns. You were talking to us about how

763
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: how you think guns should be true, because it's like

764
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: I think that is it's a common theme that we

765
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: talked about. I was I definitely thought about that a

766
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 1: lot um but it's you know, me being an artist,

767
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: it's been a part of who I am, um, and

768
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: you know I started out as a battle rapper and

769
00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: the gun metaphor and it's you couldn't really to get

770
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: away from it. Well, it's it's funny how that because

771
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: it's like before, you know, like when when hip hop started,

772
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: like the whole ship is about exaggeration of power, you know,

773
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: just like yo, I'm strong enough to smash through a wall.

774
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: Then it just transferred it. You know, It's like I

775
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: remember like it went through a phase to where it

776
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: was like that sort of ship and it was like Yo,

777
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: my rhymes are iller than yours. That it like transferred

778
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: into I beat your ass and it was like, yeah,

779
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: I got the biggest gun. I kin there was it.

780
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: Like I want to say that was late eighties when

781
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: it started, but you know that, yeah, you know, drug

782
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: but even then, like crime started rising, and even then

783
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: it was like the late eighties when it started really

784
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: affecting the music that I can't even explain it when

785
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: think it's getting older, do you think it's you're getting

786
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: older making you look at it? That to um, I

787
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: used to be in the streets, now I'm not, and

788
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: that kind of plays a party in two. UM. So

789
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: my music used to just be solely just um violence

790
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: and trapping and all this stuff because that's what I was,

791
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: you know, engulfed in. And now you know, if you

792
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: listen to my more recent stuff, it's more about like

793
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: love and emotions and um struggled to triumph and coming

794
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: out of valet mhm um consciousness. So I'm I'm growing

795
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 1: out of it steadily. But at the same time, I

796
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: love guns and uh and if I'm honest, sometimes this

797
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: ship is just so fun to wrap about it really is.

798
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there's nothing better than like somebody

799
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: who's dope might just kicking a real clever gun bar,

800
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like a dope gun metaphor.

801
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: Like one of my favorite joints was there's Lloyd Banks

802
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: ryme on this g in its song Thicker than Water.

803
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: Let's listen to this line real quick packing mittle things.

804
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: That small Pumer shot the Sacramento but she doesn't watch sports.

805
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: The Sacramental Kings basketball team they had watching for they

806
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: had a bunch of Forearns. Yeah that yeah, when they

807
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: had Stoo and they had a bunch of them. That's

808
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: a bar, yeah yeah. And the feeling, but that feeling

809
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: is something about it. I don't know why. It's just

810
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: something I like hearing about. I don't, I don't, you know.

811
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: Every now and then, usually like it's if I'm telling

812
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: like a story rap or something like that. So I

813
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: don't really necessarily get to really go into like gunbar

814
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: references and stuff. But I love the ship out of

815
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: listening to it. Like the Griselda Cats, their ship is

816
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: filled with gun bars. Um. The battle scene can be

817
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: kind of battle scene is gun gun guns. It can

818
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: be kind of weird just because it's like I don't

819
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: know the some of that aura, the hip hop aura

820
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: is gone because it's like it's it's more of like

821
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: a live field. So it's like it's just something different.

822
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: And when it's not like a movie music video production,

823
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: when you're like seeing like two regular guys Joe My like,

824
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: we're dude, Like I literally just saw you get out

825
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: of the uber like thirty minutes ago, gunless like a motherfucker.

826
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: You're talking, And that's what That's another thing I'm telling

827
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: the kids. I'm like, so, you know, these rappers aren't

828
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: really out here shooting people, right because if they were,

829
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: they're being jail. What they're like, well, you know, we

830
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 1: know it just sounds good as long as if they're

831
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: saying that, that's what I was saying sounds good to them.

832
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: And there's something about just in human nature. We we

833
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: love violence and drama and we just love it. I

834
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. We don't get bored with

835
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: positive songs. We'll get bored. We have to hear like

836
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: some drama and stuff. I don't I don't really get it.

837
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: Just like enough. So guns America Online, the firearm retailer

838
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: and gun blog, made a direct correlation between the sales

839
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: of the Draco pistol and the guns appearance and rap

840
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: songs in seventeen from Vince Staples, twenty one, Savage, Gucci

841
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: Man Yo Gotti, they all referenced the firearms popping up

842
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: all arrested the poem where in California is considered an

843
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: assault rifle and not a hand gun like it is

844
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 1: in the rest of the states, and so he wasn't

845
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: legally last that is the most referenced gun nowadays, the Draco. Well,

846
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: that that trend happens. Um. I've been a lot long

847
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: enough to see that happen a couple of times. I

848
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: remember there was there's this gun called the Calico. It

849
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: looks like you could you can literally just take it

850
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: like on the set of Star Wars and give it

851
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: to somebody without putting anything on it. And it looks

852
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: like a Star Wars gun and ship. But when those

853
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: first started popping up back in the nineties, like every

854
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: rapper had a cow I got a Calico bar on

855
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: the Desert Eagle. When the Desert Eagles started popping up,

856
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: everybody had a Desert mac ten. The dude named himself

857
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: mac Tent because the backten was such a popular guy.

858
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: I think, is this is Calco something right? It's just

859
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: kind of a little something that you're right. And then

860
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: there's a forty cow rapper. There's got to be a

861
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: rapper named every Smith and Western there's Yeah, that's definitely Draco.

862
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 1: There's a couple of DraCos. Oh, there's a couple of DraCos.

863
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: Draco Soldier calls himself Young Drake on that so Detroit

864
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: rapper quality. Chris to dropped the album last year called Guns,

865
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: and the whole thing was kind of a little metaphor

866
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: or about America's relationship with guns and violence. He's weaving

867
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: in and out stories throughout the album where he's you know,

868
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: it goes from first person to third person to direct narratives,

869
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: and he's playing all sorts of different characters and stuff

870
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: on it. Um, he said to NPR, because the whole

871
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: album is all about things that opponized for good or

872
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: for evil. Religion, race, fear is more powerful than a gun.

873
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 1: Everything is a weapon. I even talked to a couple

874
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: of people this is him talking. I even talked to

875
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: a couple of people that thought the first song was

876
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: talking about me and my history is shooting people up

877
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, nah, it's just a metaphor. Now, this

878
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: album is a whole is dealing with you know, guns

879
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: and gun violence and stuff like that. But we're gonna

880
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: just take a little listen to a quick snippet from

881
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: the song Obamacare, like qual a Chris and that Obama

882
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: definitely something that feels like it requires multiple listens to.

883
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: You know, the lyrics are delivered in that sort of

884
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: way where it's like you're not meant to really soak

885
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: everything in the first time you hear it. There's an

886
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: abstract vibe to it. I took that everyone can get

887
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: it like Obamacare to be you know, a reference. Knowing

888
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: what he was going in doing with the whole album.

889
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: I took that as a gun reference. So I'm sure

890
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: if you listen to the whole thing, I'm sure at

891
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: all gives you more of that picture. But if you

892
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: don't understand it, you'll take it as if he's saying

893
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: he's gonna apply something to everybody. Yeah, but he's really

894
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: saying guns are so assistible, you know, speaking of accessibility

895
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 1: to something that's a bit less abstract but still really

896
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: clever in terms of like how it's put together. Is

897
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: this Tupac song Me and My Girlfriend, not the jay

898
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:58,919
Speaker 1: Z Beyonce one they were covering come Back to See

899
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: You Naked? Wouldn't that be? I ain't gonna lie. I'm

900
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: just I'm real laughing what he's talking about. I feel

901
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: like my whole life is just in background. You know,

902
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: he just realize. I'm just realizing it. Mine's blown. You

903
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: don't have to say that like when I was not online,

904
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: because he goes all the way to twenty two. Oh my,

905
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: you just missed my whole life and squil Aid is

906
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: just now discovering that. But that was kind of a

907
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: thing back in the day. But yeah, I remember that

908
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: was one of those early things whereas before I was

909
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 1: rapping or before I was even thinking about making music.

910
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: But it was one of those like standout songs where

911
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you hear that song. It's where he's

912
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: talking about the gun, but he's talking about it like

913
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: it's a girl. It's like, yo, oh, you can do

914
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: this in music, you know what I mean. It is

915
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: one of those sort of like lightbulb moments for me.

916
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: I feel I shouldn't wrap no more. Like I'm a

917
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: diehard Toobot fan and I'm pissed at myself because I

918
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: took that so literal. Um, Let's listen to something that

919
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: has a similar sort of vibe to it. But with

920
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: this one, it's not the personification of like a girlfriend,

921
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: but it's more of the There was a toy, the

922
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: My Buddy toy back in the day that had a

923
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: commercial that had a jingle, my buddy, my buddy, Wherever

924
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: I go, he goes so g unit. Back in I

925
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: think oh four, this was on that first album Back

926
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: to the Mercy. They made a song called my Buddy

927
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: where they took that jingle and it's all about guns

928
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: and it's sucking awesome. I love it. Holy Ship Steve

929
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 1: screaming on niggas, beating um vcs, nig sat Johny just

930
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: like the tank say a little my little friend. All right,

931
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: let's talking about let's talking about it. Oh yeah. So

932
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: that I had the same sort of vibe that that

933
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: I got from the Tupacs song when I discovered that one.

934
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: But again that is the difference, right, like we just

935
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: heard you just heard the tupocket You you put together

936
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: that metaphor and it was dope and it was like,

937
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: oh man, this is crazy. Man Like Tupacs going in.

938
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: But let's be real, right, that whole Tupac song and

939
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: that sixteen bars and Lloyd Banks first, like just the

940
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: way Lloyd did it. We're just because you can't see this.

941
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: This is like, this is why when people be like

942
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: squalding your dope, I'm like, no, I'm not yo, because

943
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: Lloyd Lloyd Banks is probably one of the most slipt

944
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: on lyricist in the game. Oh man, he missed me

945
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: up with that. And the last song for today is

946
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: the Ludicrous track We Got Them Guns featuring like everybody

947
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: chingy I twenty all the disturbing the Peace crew on

948
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: this with Ludicrous. But but what can I say? This

949
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: is probably my favorite gun song. They're not really making

950
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: a big broad theme or metaphor like my buddy or

951
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: me and my girlfriend. It's just straight up, you know,

952
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: everyone's first they're talking about guns and stuff like that.

953
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: But because it's a CRUI song, everyone's trying to outdo

954
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: each other with either how funny or how ridiculous the

955
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: metaphor for their guns can be. So it just keeps

956
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: escalating with each verse. Let's listen to this, caliber is

957
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: not looking so good. Tomorrow is not on your calendar

958
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: aware out. Yeah, they everybody killed that song. I can't

959
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: believe that. I like the way he float on it. Well,

960
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: there's there's something about I don't know, I don't want

961
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: to say it specifically guns, but you know, I think

962
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: money is definitely like money, and stunting is one of

963
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: those topics. Sex is another one of those topics. But

964
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: there's certain topics and hip hop where it's just like

965
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: when a rapper gets into it, they can just snap

966
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: and snap and probably will do like the best some

967
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: of the best rapping that they'll do, like rapping about

968
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: those topics specifically, because it's just I don't know, if

969
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: it's just there's a so many things that rhyme with

970
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: gun stuff. Then it's like, I don't know, it's it's

971
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: how they explain. It's just it just happens. Because there's

972
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 1: there's rappers that I that I like or that I

973
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: love who are gun rappers. And you know, every bar

974
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: is about my gun is like this and I'm shooting

975
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: up this and I don't relate to that ship at all,

976
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: like as a person, but when I get out of

977
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: it is the same thing that I get from like

978
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: a cool action scene in the movie or like a

979
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: suspenseful scene and in a in a thriller movie. You

980
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, There's there's something that's just purely

981
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: entertainment based about it that I've never found an issue with.

982
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: But you know what, we are out of time. That

983
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: is going to be it for us this week, everybody.

984
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope that this episode has provided you

985
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: with the proper amount of copium. It is Wednesday morning

986
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: as we record this, like we said earlier, so you know,

987
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: as of now, there's been no new developments in the election,

988
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: so who knows what's going to happen. But um, if

989
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: you've never thought about arming yourself, you know, guns are

990
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: obviously not for everybody. They're definitely not for me. But

991
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: we have to adapt to the realities that we live in,

992
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: and I think we live in a reality where we

993
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: might want to consider or reconsider things like that. UM

994
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: all made your platforms I Tunes, Spotify, YouTube, found Cloud,

995
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: Google Play, Amazon, um Pandora anywhere you can find music.

996
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: You can find my music all platforms, and you know

997
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: following Instagram, Yeah, my name and as I always tell you,

998
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: your favorite host dope Knife and Lingua franc are both

999
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: on Spotify and our music can also be found all

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01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: over the place. Yoada, YadA YadA. Follow us on I

1001
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: Heart Reparations on Instagram. We love you guys. Wish that

1002
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: this could have been more of a celebratory episode, but hey,

1003
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: the fight continues. Stay safe out there, See you next week. Squally,

1004
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna rat with us on this one. Somebody got

1005
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: me your motherfucking beat. Yeah, Yo, it's your boys, Squally, Bars,

1006
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: Bars Bars. I'll be running my old hood, but I'm

1007
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: on new ship. Ain't old attitude. I'm rocking new kicks.

1008
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: All these droppers wanting beef, but I an't got no tupicks.

1009
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: My pops told me stumping nigga silly if the shoot

1010
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: fit on another planet where we be on and all

1011
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: my niggas we all coded in for free on rolling

1012
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: the chick Nay Diamond shot from see every Lee on

1013
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: me and her be shining like I swagged, made it

1014
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: knee on Yeah, and you're in Hey, then later be gone.

1015
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: All about that paper you could get taper for while

1016
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: I'm from so every where that I'm at, I keep

1017
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: a couple of willies that be willing to split your

1018
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: high hat. You don't want to try that. I'm running

1019
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: all that may back. Be careful you can't see me.

1020
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: You don't like it, niggas say that, be careful where

1021
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: you breathing. Once my niggas get the green light, we'll

1022
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: be coming where you're sleeping, you behind, We'll be seeking

1023
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: when you're trying to get defeated. So you better make

1024
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: like Mike jack boy. I'm talking to beat this where

1025
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: you out your mind. If you're thinking that we even

1026
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: never shall I be out here completely and tell me

1027
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: why I swear the rookie I'm already major league and yeah,

1028
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: well I'm talking Devin Geta. You don't want me to

1029
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: find your family? Guy that quick? Acting like Peter My

1030
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: flow so stupid, man. I love the game. No Cupid

1031
01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: in this game on so elusive. If you watch, I'm

1032
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: like exclusive squal A be running things. I'm gonna beast

1033
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: off the change. Say it's everything. I'd be so high

1034
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: like every plane. Yeah high, like every plane. Some makers

1035
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: marking a weapon take apart your protection just the start

1036
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: of a lesson. I think you are second guessing. I

1037
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: drink in front of the reverence. That's why I have

1038
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: no adversary. Can't compare me to these charities with the

1039
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: bab vocabulary. You want to limit what I say. I

1040
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 1: remember that nickel snap. That's whether you're straight over a Democrat,

1041
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: you're faking your demo's whack. Wait to like, get a

1042
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: crack ever tracks in the back and replace it with

1043
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: better crack. And by the way, what constitutes is cussing?

1044
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: I am too discussed it when coming through percussion like

1045
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: an abusive husband. I'm gonna do when bussing. You want

1046
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: to hear Rahms and I'm the dude you're loving. I'm

1047
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: the future cousin. You hardly could rhyme. Marty McFly couldn't

1048
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: even see a part of my time. I was dope

1049
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: when all of y'all was watching Party of Five. Not

1050
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: a ladies man, but I bet your daughter with grind

1051
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 1: it's so master see it hurts up. I don't know

1052
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 1: if part of my anatomy is a curse. Word lyrics,

1053
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: got so many of them, calories my worst love the

1054
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: assaulting battery just versa like you need some batteries to

1055
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: work up gravity inertia out of father laws of physics,

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