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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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<v Speaker 1>today's best minds and just eight percent of United States

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<v Speaker 1>adults and eighteen percent of Republicans back taking control of Greenland.

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<v Speaker 1>We have such a great show for you today as

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<v Speaker 1>the world churns own. Andy Leeby steps by to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Donald Trump's more on the American people. Then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk to former mayor of Chicago and Obama White House

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<v Speaker 1>Chief of Staff Rama Manual about how the DNC messed

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<v Speaker 1>up and how they can win the midterms. But first

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<v Speaker 1>the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone we've heard Vice President just dance fans say things

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<v Speaker 2>like that ICE officers are immune to prosecution, and Steven

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<v Speaker 2>Miller decided to take it the full full end of

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<v Speaker 2>basically saying ICE officers could do whatever they want and

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<v Speaker 2>they will be pardoned is quite quite bad and like

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<v Speaker 2>something that's going to lead to very bad outcomes, but

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<v Speaker 2>most of all, also something that's going to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>make them very unpopular.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, basically this is what Stephen Miller said, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said it on television because so much of this is

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<v Speaker 1>performative to all ICE officers who have federal immunity in

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<v Speaker 1>the conduct of your duties. By the way, they have

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<v Speaker 1>qualified immunity. Qualified immunity is not the same as federal immunity.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't necessarily mean that you can do whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone lays a hand on you or tries to

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<v Speaker 1>stop you or tries to obstruct you, they are committing

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<v Speaker 1>a felony. Also not necessarily true, because it's not how

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<v Speaker 1>many of this works. You have immunity to perform your duties.

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<v Speaker 1>And no one knows city official, no state official, no

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<v Speaker 1>illegal alien, no leftist agitator, or domestic insurrectionists can prevent

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<v Speaker 1>you from fulfilling your legal obligations and duties. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's absolutely not true. And the Apartment of Justice has

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<v Speaker 1>made clear that an official crosses the line into obstruction

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<v Speaker 1>into criminal conspiracy against you. Says are against ICE officials,

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<v Speaker 1>the officers, they will face justice. That is not correct.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, they have qualified immunity the what police do too.

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<v Speaker 1>And also Stephen Miller has now he sees that these

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<v Speaker 1>ICE agents are getting a lot of pushback for what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing, and he sees that this polling is not popular.

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<v Speaker 1>And because he's Steven Miller and because Trump two point

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<v Speaker 1>zero is this insane mechanism where they just go full authoritarian.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just doubling down on it. He's saying, do whatever

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<v Speaker 1>you want, do as much as you want. What's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen here is what happened in Minnesota, but worse right,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to do worse. They're going to hurt more people,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to kill more people, and there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be more of this until the Trump administration stops

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<v Speaker 1>doing it, and they're not going to stop doing it

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<v Speaker 1>on their own. And I think that's what we have

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<v Speaker 1>to understand here. Like we always say, like Republicans need

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<v Speaker 1>to stand up to them, and people say, well, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to stand up to them, okay, But until

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<v Speaker 1>they do so, this continues. And so maybe they don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like standing up to them, maybe the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to say no Trump, that's enough. But until

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<v Speaker 1>they do, it just gets worse and worse and worse.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are not even done with your one. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's so stupid about this whole fucking thing is

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<v Speaker 1>that you can say, oh, Republicans are cowards, They're never

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<v Speaker 1>going to stand up to him. They are cowards for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>no one's arguing with that. But until they do, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna get worse and worse and worse. So like,

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<v Speaker 1>until Tucker Carlson and every dipshit on Fox News says

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<v Speaker 1>you got to stop shooting people in the face, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna stop. So again I implore you, as a

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<v Speaker 1>listener to this podcast, like all of us need to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking to our representatives, especially the Republican ones, and saying, look, man,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta tell him it's not okay to have a

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<v Speaker 1>gestapo going through Minnesota, ripping special education teachers out of

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<v Speaker 1>their cars and breaking windows because they're fighting against some

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<v Speaker 1>enemy that doesn't exist. I mean, that's how we got here.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not a country at war, right, Immigration is

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<v Speaker 1>a net negative now or a zero. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>a country that needs a secret police force. This is

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<v Speaker 1>an authoritarian who's using a secret police force to punish democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the only reason they're in Minnesota and not

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere else is because of that dipshit Nick Shirley, who

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<v Speaker 1>had that dumb piece about fraud that had happened two

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<v Speaker 1>years ago where people were already in jail.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it really is sad since the second Dick Shirley's

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<v Speaker 2>journalism has stood up to Eddie Rigger. We've seen that

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<v Speaker 2>it fell apart. Soboley Representative Seth Moulton, who is primary

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<v Speaker 2>ing Senator Ed Markey in the far left set a

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<v Speaker 2>seat of Massachusetts, has introduced ICE to funding bill and

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<v Speaker 2>he's calling the issue shut down worthy. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>make of this?

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<v Speaker 1>He's right, they should shut down the fucking gummery over Ice.

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<v Speaker 3>They should.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, the spending package right now gave ICE seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five billion dollars and they're funded through twenty twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who's not funded through twenty twenty nine, anyone else?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is just fucking madness. They are doing

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<v Speaker 1>a reparable harm to our communities, to our country, and

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans should abse fucking lutely shut down the government over

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<v Speaker 1>this bullshit. One hundred percent. Malton said, the one beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>bill nearly triples ICE budget. ICE's budget at a time

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<v Speaker 1>when American families are losing their health insurance. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite say it like that, but it's true. And he said,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to extend ACA premium tax credits. They shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be lapsing now again. I think a lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>have already lapsed, and I think that there's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a way to save that. But the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we do know is we can shut down this

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five billion dollars that's going to ice. And if

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<v Speaker 1>they shut down the government, that's the first to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, you may not see that on CBS News,

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<v Speaker 1>that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm thinking a lot about the platform formerly known

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<v Speaker 2>as Twitter, known as X and it's Ai Robot Croc

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<v Speaker 2>who this week awone has had reports that suggest both

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<v Speaker 2>Australia and the UK and Canadian governments are going to

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<v Speaker 2>ban X because Groc keeps undressing underage girls and things

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<v Speaker 2>like that and there's no guardrails on it, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is by design. It keeps turning into a white supremacist.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, it did it twenty seven times. Because Elon

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<v Speaker 2>thinks this is based and with that are very questionably sober.

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<v Speaker 2>Department of warhead Pete Hegsith has decided they should turn

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<v Speaker 2>Grock over to run the Pentagon and do analysis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, by the way, Elon mash he has head to

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<v Speaker 1>free reign on our government. And I think it's important.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when Elon is always like, oh, there's fraud in

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<v Speaker 1>the government. Like you worked in the fun government. Doje

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<v Speaker 1>cut lots of government contracts. So the idea that he

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<v Speaker 1>just needs more time to go back into the government

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<v Speaker 1>and fuck Moore shit up is pretty hilarious to make.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about this. So Pete Hagsath, who is both

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<v Speaker 1>a moron and very likely an alcoholic, has decided that

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<v Speaker 1>the Elon Musk artificial intelligence chatbot white supremacist because that's

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<v Speaker 1>how it's been trained. Grock will be integrated into the

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<v Speaker 1>Pentagon's network, including classified systems, as a part of a

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<v Speaker 1>broader initiative to help Republican donors. I'm sorry to initiate

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<v Speaker 1>and incorporate AI technology across the military. Speaking at SpaceX,

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<v Speaker 1>which is headquartered in South Texas, which has a governor

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<v Speaker 1>who will do anything Donald Trump wants. His name is

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<v Speaker 1>Greg Abbott. Heigsas said, groc will go live inside the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Defense this month and will join Google's generitive

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<v Speaker 1>AI engine. There are so many reasons why this could

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<v Speaker 1>end in disaster. We just have to hope that the

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<v Speaker 1>grown ups at the US military are giving Pete hag

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<v Speaker 1>Sath the blunt knife and the kitty spoon and not

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<v Speaker 1>letting anywhere near the nukes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, so stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very stupid. Speaking of stupid, Senator Alissa Slotkin of

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<v Speaker 2>the Great State of Michigan says that prosecutors are investigating

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<v Speaker 2>her after a video about legal orders, just like what

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<v Speaker 2>they went after Senator Mark Kelly for.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we know this to be true because they

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<v Speaker 1>did this to Mark Kelly. And if there's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>we know about this administration, it's they're just going to

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<v Speaker 1>do it to everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing we know is they're going to send

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<v Speaker 2>somebody very incompetent after them aka Judge box of Wide Piro.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, she found out an inquiry and from the office

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<v Speaker 1>of Jeanine Piro. Again, it's worth remembering Donald Trump. He

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<v Speaker 1>yelled at his people for not doing enough for him,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the next day Judge of Wine started investigating

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<v Speaker 1>the chairman of the FED. She started investigating Lissa Slockin.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how it goes right, Judge box of Wine

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<v Speaker 1>wants to make her big boss happy. The good news

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<v Speaker 1>is these people are morons, right, Like they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>go after j Powell for a renovation that went over budget. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>j Pal I'm no fan of any of these people, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Are my favorite announcements. A renovation that would overbudget aka

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<v Speaker 2>every renovation the history of America.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, when they were in the if you watch the

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<v Speaker 1>video of the two of them going through the FED renovation,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes and he goes, we'll cost three billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>In j goes, no, two billion doors, and Trump goes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>three billion dollars. And then he goes to see and

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Powell looks and he goes, you added another building.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these people they're just not smart. And thank

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<v Speaker 1>God for that, because otherwise we would all be completely fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>We We have exciting news over at our YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>The second episode from our Project twenty twenty nine series

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<v Speaker 1>is a host of As the World Churned, Andy Levy,

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<v Speaker 1>Molly Jong Fast. You know how many Democrats there are

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<v Speaker 1>in the House of Representatives two hundred and thirteen? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you're so smart? Seventy back the impeachment of Christy Nome

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<v Speaker 1>or is we like to call her a st Barbie?

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<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't everyone where are the other hundred and four day?

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<v Speaker 3>It was just like today or yesterday? This was brought

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<v Speaker 3>up the impeachment, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's let's give him time because it

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<v Speaker 1>was only I mean, a woman was shot, a mother,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven year old mother shot in the face three times,

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<v Speaker 1>but that last week, I mean, how many moms have

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<v Speaker 1>to get shot in the face before Christy gets impeached?

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<v Speaker 1>Two three four.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not one to give the Democrats a pass. Molly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Seventy on day one, and I would assume probably still

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<v Speaker 3>growing as we speak. I'll kind of take that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>by the end of the week it should be d thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>It's unreal. I mean, they could literally spend every waking

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<v Speaker 3>minute that they are in session doing nothing but impeaching

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<v Speaker 3>various officials, and that would be a good use of

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<v Speaker 3>their time for me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>So much has to be done about what's going on now.

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<v Speaker 3>But Christynome, RFK Junior. There's no point me even listing

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<v Speaker 3>them because it's probably one name for each of the

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<v Speaker 3>seventy members of Congress that right now have stagged on

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<v Speaker 3>to this.

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<v Speaker 1>What I think is important about the Christynome impeachment, and

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<v Speaker 1>what I think is important about impeachment in the House

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<v Speaker 1>we're at large right now, is that Mike Johnson is

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible speaker, and he has a one vote majority

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<v Speaker 1>with four vacancies. There are two hundred and eighteen Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and thirteen Democrats, four vacancies. Here is a

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<v Speaker 1>moment where Democrats can get things passed as a dischurch petition,

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<v Speaker 1>which means they put together something, they go around leadership,

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<v Speaker 1>and they make it happen. Could you see a discharge

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<v Speaker 1>petition for impeaching Christy nom get through? I can. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't because you'd see that the Obamacare premium expansion, they

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<v Speaker 1>got seventeen Republicans to vote. So if you can get

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen Republicans, if you can get five Republicans, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I do think there's a chance. Now, look, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the Senate. It's going to die at

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate. But you know what, when we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein stuff, right, the Epstein discharge petition, no one

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was going to get to the Senate. And

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<v Speaker 1>it got to the Senate and no one thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was going to get through the Senate. It got through

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<v Speaker 1>the Senate and everyone thought Donald Trump is going to

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<v Speaker 1>veto it, and Donald Trump couldn't veto it. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>DOJ is completely fucked and so they didn't release any

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff. But like, nobody could have seen that coming.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think the makeup is so dysfunctional

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<v Speaker 1>and what Trump is doing is so insane that I

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<v Speaker 1>would not bet against an impeachment.

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<v Speaker 3>I would bet against it but but no, it is possible.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Obamacare subsidies. I don't know that that's

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<v Speaker 3>an apt comparison, because that is stuff that I think

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<v Speaker 3>people in the districts of these Republicans wanted that. They

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<v Speaker 3>certainly weren't doing it because it was the right thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do. They were doing it because they were worried

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<v Speaker 3>about how it would play back home. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that impeaching Christy Nome gets you that same you know,

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<v Speaker 3>regardless of what the polling is on Ice, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think it gets you the same thing. I think Epstein

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<v Speaker 3>also falls more in that Obamacare subsidy thing, where it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>clearly people wanted this to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Except this is the problem with this moment in American life.

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<v Speaker 1>None of this shit stops until people stop it. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's gonna just get worse and worse and worse,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna see more videos and people getting the

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<v Speaker 1>shit kicked out of them and get pulled out of

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<v Speaker 1>their cars and get shot in the face, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>people are either going to be like, either they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to impeach her and they're gonna stop it,

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<v Speaker 1>or it's gonna be every blue state, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this is happening in non blue states too, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I do think, like, yes, we should be cynical about

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<v Speaker 1>these people because they're politicians and they got us to

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<v Speaker 1>this moment. But I do think like they are all

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<v Speaker 1>we have between between like us being Venezuela two point zero.

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<v Speaker 3>We wait, I think we agree, Like I think they

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<v Speaker 3>should go ahead with you know, motions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it's just gonna get worse and worse

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<v Speaker 1>and worse. There is no other third choice, Like Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is not gonna be like, oh, this was bad, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stop doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, you know, Like I said, they could be doing

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<v Speaker 3>nothing but working on impeachment paperwork, and I'd be fine

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<v Speaker 3>with that. The argument that you don't do it because

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<v Speaker 3>it's not gonna succeed doesn't work for me. Here. You

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<v Speaker 3>still do it. Sometimes you do something because it's the

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<v Speaker 3>right thing. Even if you think the odds of emerging

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<v Speaker 3>victorious are slim, or even if you think the odds

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<v Speaker 3>of emerging victorious are none, it's still the right fucking

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<v Speaker 3>thing to do. Yeah, So you do it, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>still getting it on the record and getting it out

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<v Speaker 3>there that these people have to be held to account.

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<v Speaker 3>And if something like this fails, now, all right, you

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<v Speaker 3>know we got midterms coming up, we got twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>eight coming up. There's absolutely nothing that says you can't

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<v Speaker 3>do it again. So I'm not advocating for waiting till

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<v Speaker 3>you have a majority or anything like that. I'm saying

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the opposite. I'm saying, do it now. If it fails.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, all right, you did a dry run, and

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<v Speaker 3>then in twenty seventeen, if you've got majorities, you do

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<v Speaker 3>it again. You wait, twenty twenty eight, you do it again. Whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>But the trail, like you said, this stuff is not

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<v Speaker 3>going to stop. It's just going to get worse. And

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<v Speaker 3>the trail of opposition has to be firmly established. You

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait until all the stars align and all the

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<v Speaker 3>ducks are in a row and say, okay, now we

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<v Speaker 3>can oppose this stuff. And look, this is where both

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<v Speaker 3>Schumer and Jefferies drive me absolutely nuts, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>they never seem to understand that the moment is now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's always we can't do that. Now. We have to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the economy and only the economy, as if

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<v Speaker 3>people can't hold multiple thoughts in their head at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, and as if it's not important to actually

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<v Speaker 3>do the right things sometimes, And that's where this falls

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree. I also think that the ICE numbers

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<v Speaker 1>are bad and they're only going to get worse. The

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<v Speaker 1>public sentiment on ice. Nobody wants this, nobody likes it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's only going to get worse. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's also true.

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<v Speaker 3>I absolutely agree with that. You know, I've seen people saying,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you were wonder to n actually that abolish

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<v Speaker 3>ice is going to be the moderate position for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never have said that in my life. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, fancy white person like abolish ice, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you know, I'd go on television and say

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<v Speaker 1>things like, you can't have politicians who say abolish ice. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to vote for a politician who says

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't say abolish ice, like this mom was murdered

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<v Speaker 1>because she was blocking traffic, right, Okay, if we're just

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<v Speaker 1>going to murder random people because they're making you mad, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how any of this is supposed work. No.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, welcome to the dark side, Molly. Are

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<v Speaker 3>we glad to have you? But you know, beyond abolish

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<v Speaker 3>ice being the moderate position, abolish ice has to be

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<v Speaker 3>the first step. Like, that's not the end all be all.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't just abolish ice and then say all right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, then make the Las Vegas blackjack dealer handwave thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's going to have to go for than a polis

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<v Speaker 3>is all. I'm saying. There's going to have to be

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<v Speaker 3>ramifications for the Christy Knows, the Vinos, the people like that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>why do you get the.

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<v Speaker 1>People who get fifty thousand dollars in a cave a bag?

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Holman?

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<v Speaker 3>I can not imagine who you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Holman on the weekend Sunday shows. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this. I know it's not breaking news, but

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<v Speaker 1>so Kristin Walker is like, you got fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in a cave a bag? And he's like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a beautiful moment of like a man

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<v Speaker 1>trying to say he didn't get fifty thousand dollars in

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<v Speaker 1>a cave bag. My question is, Tom Holman, what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of taxes did you pay? Did you pay those as

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<v Speaker 1>income taxes? Was that? Did you pay it as a

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<v Speaker 1>capital gains? I mean, did you not pay taxes on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty thousand dollars you got in a caba bag.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, is that gambling wings Maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, I don't know. It must be, it must be.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you have to It's like like when Oprah gives

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<v Speaker 3>you a car, you have to pay the you have

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<v Speaker 3>to pay the taxes, right, Yeah, yeah, I guess you

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<v Speaker 3>had a.

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<v Speaker 1>Kaba bag filled with fifty thousand dollars and you get

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<v Speaker 1>a kava bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Go on, yes, no, I can say, I guess. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess you have to admit that you got a bag

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<v Speaker 3>filled to fifty k before you can pay taxes on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, by the way, my favorite part of that story

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<v Speaker 1>is they weren't even investigating him. I know they were

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<v Speaker 1>investigating someone else, and you just wandered in and was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take that fifty thousand dollars in a cava bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Truly we are.

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<v Speaker 4>We are being run by.

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<v Speaker 1>The dumbest, most corrupt Yeah. True or false? Like the

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<v Speaker 1>stupidity is saving us a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>True. I think a lot of them are stupid. I

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<v Speaker 3>think there are some who aren't stupid. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>Stephen Miller is stupid. No, I think he's evil, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's stupid. Christy Noam, I think is

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<v Speaker 3>pretty stupid. Tom Holman doesn't seem like the brightest.

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<v Speaker 1>Bulb, but I think it's worth Like, for example, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Donald Trump being in Michigan. He was in

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit to talk about the economy and how he is

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<v Speaker 1>growing the manufacturing despite the fact that manufacturing has actually

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<v Speaker 1>lost jobs because these tariffs, which we're supposed to incentivize

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturing on shore have basically just put it, have been

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<v Speaker 1>like a big rock on our economy, right, because people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do. Nobody trusts Trump, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if he's going to change his mind, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>just not manufacturing, and so people are losing manufacturing jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes to Detroit to tour to tout how

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to make America great again. And he sees

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<v Speaker 1>one of the workers at the plant who says, why

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<v Speaker 1>do you protect pedophiles? And he, in his infinite class

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<v Speaker 1>and grace, the always statesman, Donald Trump gives the guy

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<v Speaker 1>the finger discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, look, I mean there's a couple of different

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<v Speaker 3>ways of looking at this. One is you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean Trump, I don't know that he ever had it,

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<v Speaker 3>but he lost it a while ago. I mean he yeah, clearly,

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<v Speaker 3>he very clearly lost it. You know, there are various

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<v Speaker 3>things that happened to the human brain as one ages,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know sometimes when those things happened, some of

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<v Speaker 3>the inhibitions go away with the brain functions and.

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<v Speaker 1>Core frontal lobe. It's really it's not doing what it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be doing. For Donald Trump, he's days.

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<v Speaker 3>But also this is the kind of thing where and

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<v Speaker 3>again I don't give him enough credit to think that

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<v Speaker 3>he did this on purpose. You know, it gave the

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<v Speaker 3>dude the finger. But these are the kinds of things

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<v Speaker 3>that I think MAGA believes a larger percentage of voters

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<v Speaker 3>are into. Like they they think half the because we

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<v Speaker 3>hear this all the time. Well you if you attack

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, you're atacking half the country. For no, you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even close to half the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's probably like thirty percent of the country.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'd say a solid a solid third. But the

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<v Speaker 3>point is, like they in their heads think a majority

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<v Speaker 3>of Americans are going to see the President of the

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<v Speaker 3>United States flipping off an automotive worker and think, right on,

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<v Speaker 3>you really told that I don't know woke, you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>woe the woke automotive plant guy, and what Look, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know a thing about this guy. Maybe he is woke,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's very good chance he's not woke. He just

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't like the idea that Donald Trump is not releasing

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<v Speaker 3>the Epstein files.

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<v Speaker 1>M that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>But they think, because they spend most of their day

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<v Speaker 3>on Twitter, and they they believe that a majority of

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<v Speaker 3>the country, that that's what the majority of the country

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<v Speaker 3>is going to think. And I think we're seeing this

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. And we're seeing this with what's happening on,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and more importantly with ice in Minnesota, where

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<v Speaker 3>they're putting out videos that they think are going to

0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 3>show this dude in a good light. And people are

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<v Speaker 3>looking at this video and unless you are fully cooked

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<v Speaker 3>and you're in you know, maga world, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>one of that thirty percent of America maybe even smaller,

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<v Speaker 3>you are not looking at that video and saying to yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, oh yeah, you're looking at the video going wait,

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<v Speaker 3>you think this makes him look good?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think there's a lot of that going on now.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why you always hear you know, Trump loves

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about the polls that he somehow thinks he's

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<v Speaker 3>doing well in when he's really not, because my guess

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<v Speaker 3>is they don't show him the actual polls, and they

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<v Speaker 3>probably tell him he's doing really well. They have sort

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<v Speaker 3>of adopted this mindset that, you know, yeah, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get yelled at by the woke, you know, media and

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<v Speaker 3>liberal tears and all that and you know you mad

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.640
<v Speaker 3>bruh and all that stuff, and they think the majority

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<v Speaker 3>of the country agrees with them, and they are dead

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<v Speaker 3>wrong on that. And I'm not excusing the people that

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<v Speaker 3>voted for Trump who now are are coming to grips

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<v Speaker 3>with what they did. But in a sense, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what they voted for, because they should have known that

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 3>this is what they voted for. But in a sense,

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:24.040
<v Speaker 3>this is not what they voted for, because somehow they

0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.679
<v Speaker 3>didn't realize this is what they were voting for. And

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 3>they don't want to see this. They don't want to

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 3>see a white woman, not to put too fine a

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 3>point on it, get shot in the face right by

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:37.919
<v Speaker 3>some dude in you know, wearing camo. That's not what

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:38.880
<v Speaker 3>they want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think about this video that was on Twitter

0:25:42.200 --> 0:25:46.680
<v Speaker 1>today that Laura Loomer did of Thomas Massey. And there's

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 1>a guy following Thomas Massey and he's like, Thomas Massey,

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.720
<v Speaker 1>why don't you just become a Democrat now? And Thomas

0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Massey is like, because I voted Republicans ninety one percent

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.160
<v Speaker 1>of the time, but the nine percent I don't vote

0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:03.640
<v Speaker 1>with them. It's because they're protecting pedophiles or launching foreign wars.

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>And they put that up to show you'd gotten lumored.

0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, you have to be in such a

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 1>brain fog to think that that makes a person look bad,

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and you have to be like so sort of down

0:26:17.359 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>the partisan rabbit hole as opposed to like seeing things

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>for what they are, and you really do see it's

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:28.440
<v Speaker 1>just such a they're so they're so removed from the

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of it's like, you know, you do actually need

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 1>to have people who tell you the truth. I mean,

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.119
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I mean, it really reminds me of the

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.760
<v Speaker 1>Bill Ackman problem. Right, if nobody ever tells you the truth,

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:44.919
<v Speaker 1>you really believe that everything you think is brilliant.

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:45.560
<v Speaker 3>A one hundred percent absolutely, and it's you know, it's

0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 3>the Bill Ackman problem. It's been the Elon Musk problem

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 3>for a very long time. Unfortunately, people like that have

0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 3>made it our problem. We all know what Fox News,

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 3>my former employee, has done to people in this country.

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 3>It's just a given. But we say sometimes forget that

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 3>while the Fox News viewership is high for a cable

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 3>news network, it is a minuscule percentage of citizens in

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 3>this country. So Laura Ingram and people like that can

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 3>go on there and say whatever they want. And yes,

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 3>the true believers, you know, the people who never change

0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:27.080
<v Speaker 3>the channel from Fox News or you know, and the

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:31.080
<v Speaker 3>people who spend all day on Twitter yelling slurs at

0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 3>people of color and creating you know, child porn with croc. Sure,

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 3>they're going to stay with you. You know, you were

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 3>you were, you were the anti war president. Now you're

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:42.560
<v Speaker 3>talking about annexing.

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 1>Greenland with Grainland.

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they'll sell that, and because they know their

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 3>viewership are part of that percentage that will go along

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:54.359
<v Speaker 3>with that. It's just again that that ain't fifty percent

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.119
<v Speaker 3>of the country. It's not even close. And I'm not

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 3>trying to paint America as like you know, I don't

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 3>think fifty percent of the country agrees with me. I

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 3>would never say that you know, one hundred percent of

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.919
<v Speaker 3>the country should agree with me. That would be that

0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:12.439
<v Speaker 3>would be a that would be a true great society, Molly.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 3>But it's just not going to happen. But if you

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 3>walk around thinking that, Oh, look, the people on Twitter

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 3>are agreeing with me, the Fox News hosts are agreeing

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.040
<v Speaker 3>with me, the Fox News viewers are agreeing with me.

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:27.080
<v Speaker 3>I've got the country behind me. Oh buddy, you are

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:28.239
<v Speaker 3>so wrong about that.

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Andy leave Molly John fast we come back?

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Will I come back?

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 3>That is That is a good question, I suppose in

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 3>a philosophical sense, if you want to get I don't know,

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 3>like ontological about it. There's a chance that I will

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 3>come back. But I'll have to look into the pistemology

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 3>and uh, I'll let you know how things shake out.

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Excellent. Rom Manuel is the former mayor of Chicago and

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>chief of staff to President Ron.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome, Rom, Thank you.

0:29:00.320 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>You went to Mississippi. Did a town hall talk about Mississippi?

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Because this is really interesting what they're doing.

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, I'll.

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.479
<v Speaker 4>Try to control my enthusiasm. I mean, you don't know this,

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 4>but prior to public service, I actually studied to be

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:17.320
<v Speaker 4>a early childhood educator, early childhood psychologists. My dad was

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 4>a pediatrician. It was an interest in mind following all

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 4>the way through. When it was mayor, I created full

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 4>day kindergarten in Chicago, which it did not have for

0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 4>every child, and full day pre k which it never

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 4>had for every four year old in the city. So

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 4>it's a very big interest of mine, and we ended

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 4>up being the number one public school system according to

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:39.520
<v Speaker 4>Sean Reardon at Stanford University. So there's this analysis starting

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 4>about a little shy of two decades ago. They call

0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 4>it in Mississippi the Mississippi Marathon, not the Miracle, but

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 4>they went from forty ninth to ninth kind of pretty simple,

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 4>hard to do, but simple. They re oriented reading around

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 4>phonics science and reading science. They gave teachers a whole

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 4>new program and training, They didn't hire coaches for both

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 4>the principal and all the teachers. They gave additional kind

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.479
<v Speaker 4>of guaranteed time, a minimum of an hour and fifteen

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 4>minutes on reading. And then they gave the kids not

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 4>only support, but if they were starting to look like

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:18.000
<v Speaker 4>they were falling behind, an investment in a tutor, etc.

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 4>And then a consequence, which is if you don't past

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 4>third grader, and you're not going to fourth grade, so

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 4>there's a real kind of accountability. All said, they moved dramatically,

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 4>and I wanted to and since education is in my view,

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 4>it is unacceptable to have fifty percent of your kids

0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 4>at reading level at grade level and fifty percent it's

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 4>like competing for the future with one hand type behind

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 4>your back. And what Mississippi showed, given their demographics is

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 4>don't throw your towel in a razor white flag on

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 4>every child. That's just not true secondary but important. A

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 4>lot of debates about this, I've been reading about them. Louisiana, Alabama,

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 4>and Tennessee go to rep an, Indian River County in

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Florida go to replicate, and all see the same kind

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 4>of I wouldn't say hockey stick, but improvement when the

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 4>rest of the country is dropping right, And so I

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 4>wanted to see it firsthand, because you know, one, education

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 4>is core to what I'm interested in. If you go

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 4>through history of the United States, whether it starts after

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 4>the Civil War, beginning of the twentieth century, after World

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 4>War Two, or the Apollo Project, those are the great

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 4>periods of economic growth in America. They're all underpinned by

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 4>one thing. Lang Grand College is universal high school education,

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:42.120
<v Speaker 4>GI Bill, and the investment in science and technology i e.

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 4>The Powow Project, all of them underpinned by education. And

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 4>I think we're in a great competition with China and

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 4>we can't afford to have fifty percent of our kids

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.000
<v Speaker 4>failing and reading a math. Just can't. And if it's

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 4>going to be a commitment of public school, you got

0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 4>to improve it. And it's going to be core to

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 4>my view about making sure the American dream is attainable

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.920
<v Speaker 4>to more Americans, not fewer Americans. So I wanted to

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 4>see firsthand, not just read about them. That's why I

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 4>went down there. And there's probably a secondary political benefit

0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:13.080
<v Speaker 4>and just being blunt a lot of Democrats, I've went, oh,

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 4>show up where we don't go. And then they're saying

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 4>it from a high rise in Manhattan in their little

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 4>lemon pants holding their yetty cup and never show up,

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 4>not to take shots at Manhattan. But I don't talk

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 4>about it. I want to go. I went to a

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:28.200
<v Speaker 4>water valley held at town Hall, a town of thirty

0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 4>four hundred and in the county. Donald Trump won by twenty

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 4>one percent. A little more progressive than the rest of

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 4>the county. But there's thirty four hundred people, about one

0:32:35.520 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 4>hundred and eighty, one hundred and sixty showed up and

0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 4>they have the sheriff out there to control traffic. They

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 4>never had that. And anybody can come to the microphone

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 4>ask about people, ask about vocational it. They ask about

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 4>early childhood education. They asked about homeless kids. You know

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.480
<v Speaker 4>what they didn't ask Nobody asked about a bathroom access,

0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 4>a locker room access. They ask about what matters to

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 4>their kids. And it would be high time that the

0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 4>rest of us listen to that.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 3>So that's a mouthful.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>So what's the goal here, Well, let me I got

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it more goal. It's a broad question, but.

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 4>Let me back up. I obviously started national politics working

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 4>for ben Governor Bill Clinton running for president. When I

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:18.960
<v Speaker 4>started Bill Clinton, governor Governor Winter, Mississippi, Governor Riley of

0:33:19.000 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 4>South Carolina, Governor Hunt in North Carolina, Governors Belle Miller

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.920
<v Speaker 4>of Georgia, and Governor Childs. We're all in the forefront

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 4>of answering the challenge of the report A Nation at Risk.

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Every one of these governors were in the forefront, and

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 4>I worked with President Clinton on public school choice teachers

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 4>of excellent. I worked for President Obama as the chief

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.240
<v Speaker 4>staff implementing a race to the top. You're a very

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 4>smart person. Name me the five top governors in education

0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 4>reform and what they've done. Okay, that's an answer. Number two.

0:33:48.400 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 4>You know more about the president's position on windmills than

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.800
<v Speaker 4>you do his position on how to reverse reading score

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 4>drops across the mass scores we've abandoned.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>He has no position on that.

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, But but you know what, fifty governors control ninety

0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 4>percent of all public school financing, and we have become

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 4>complacent with failure. Now I'm at a point in my

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 4>life I'm not going to do that, and if you

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 4>don't like it, I'm not your guy. But I believe fundamentally,

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 4>not only in public schools. I feel fundamentally in turning

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 4>this country around, and it's going to start in the classrooms.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 4>That's why I also took on big technology first person

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 4>in public life to say every child sixteen or younger

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.799
<v Speaker 4>should be banned from getting social media apps. Algorithms are

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 4>raising our kids rather than adults, and we've left them

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 4>as vulnerable to big tech as we did to big

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.600
<v Speaker 4>tobacco at one point. So that's my core. And if

0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 4>I decide to make another leap into elective office, I

0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 4>want people to know where I stand. I'm at a

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 4>point in my life. I'm not going to tell you

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 4>what you want to hear. I'm going to tell you

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 4>what I think you need to hear. And so that's

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 4>the drive. But can I find this remarkable? We don't.

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 4>We have a thirty year low in reading of mass scores,

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 4>no nobody else and nobody an emergency meeting of governors.

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 4>Put aside your partisanship, put aside your differences on immigration.

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 4>We're going to have a meeting. We're gonna lay out

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 4>of a plan. Here's how we're going to do it. Our

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 4>answer vouchers close the Department of Education. Both parties are

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 4>guilty of abandoning our children to the mercy of the future.

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but I just

0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 1>don't understand. Like I certainly know that literacy in this

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 1>country is appalling. I know that the way we teach,

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 1>not teaching reading through phonics is a real problem. I've

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:33.720
<v Speaker 1>certainly seen a lot of good stuff happen in different

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>ways with public schools, and charter schools, and there certainly

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 1>are many solutions that are not being implemented. And for me,

0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>as an urban, white, Acal and Jewish person, this is

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.080
<v Speaker 1>a platform I could get behind. But I want to

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:51.680
<v Speaker 1>understand what the endgame here is. Like I mean, I

0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like I would, you know, write a check to

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>your foundation, but I don't understand.

0:35:57.400 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Actually, right, yeah, So let me say you and I.

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>Know we live in the real world and the people

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:10.520
<v Speaker 1>who run for president, I assume that's what you're.

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 4>Here's my view, which is I am going to tell

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.759
<v Speaker 4>you what I'm interested in and what I'm gonna focus on. Right,

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 4>I have nothing against other canks want to talk about

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 4>how they're going to resist Donald Trump. I'm gonna talk

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:21.799
<v Speaker 4>about how I'm gonna fight for kids. And you can

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 4>make a value judgment and a political judgment which you

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 4>find more important, and they're both equal. They're both valuable, right,

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 4>But I think you know, long term, you tell me

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 4>how you get from here to there as a country.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 4>When third graders can't read at third grade level in China,

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 4>they're going six days a week, right, So let me

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 4>let me just finish one point. This has been a

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 4>through line in my life, public life, starting from early childhood.

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 4>Interested in being an early childhood ye to walk walking

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:51.800
<v Speaker 4>into the worst public school system in America according to

0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.520
<v Speaker 4>William Bennett, and walking out with the best public school

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 4>system of the top one hundred and I took up

0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 4>and it wasn't a linear line, but we took graduation

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.719
<v Speaker 4>rates from fifty six to eighty three. First city in

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 4>America to say, if you get a be average in

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 4>our high schools, community college is free. First city in

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.880
<v Speaker 4>America set a goal fifty percent of our kids graduating

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:14.320
<v Speaker 4>with college credit in high school. And then first city

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 4>in America to say, you're not getting a diploma in

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 4>high school until you show us a letter of acceptance

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 4>from college, community college, or branch of the Armed forces

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 4>or vocational ed ins set a requirement. Okay, Now, that

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:28.960
<v Speaker 4>to me is the most important thing, or one of

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 4>the most important things we have to do as a country.

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:34.360
<v Speaker 4>And it's core to what I'm going to focus on now.

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.719
<v Speaker 4>If you decide, if I decide to run, I'm not

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.840
<v Speaker 4>a person of either weak, woke or gray. I come in,

0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 4>as I like to say, in twenty twenty four, you

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:47.359
<v Speaker 4>didn't have a choice. Right today, twenty twenty eight. You're

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 4>gonna have thirty one flavors and I'm gonna be rocky

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.759
<v Speaker 4>and I'm gonna be Rocky road. That's my flavor. You

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 4>might and you might as well know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, listen, I'm man. I love the education stuff I

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 1>come from. You know, I'm married to an ed tech me. See,

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 1>so I spent a want.

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 4>Can I have one other comment that I apologize for interrupting,

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.720
<v Speaker 4>and this is miss it. There's nothing wrong or nothing

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:12.640
<v Speaker 4>challenging America that can't be cured by what's working in America.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Mississippi has this model and a couple in about a

0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 4>month from now, I'm heading off to Michigan because they've

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 4>done excellent things and vocational at the answers to our

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 4>problem are happening at the local level. And as a

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 4>former mayor, you want to take these local models and

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:34.200
<v Speaker 4>scale them. So basically, it's not dependent on kind of

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 4>a head of miss approach. And yeah, I just don't

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 4>think we have a child to waste or a community

0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:44.399
<v Speaker 4>overlook in making making sure everybody's ready for the twenty

0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 4>first century.

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 1>No, I think that's right. So, but I want you

0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:51.120
<v Speaker 1>to talk about, like you know, how things are supposed

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>to work, and I want you to talk about what's happening.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 1>It's a DNC right now, because I want you know

0:38:58.120 --> 0:38:59.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff. I would.

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 4>It's a big, a big elage from Mississippi doc to

0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 4>the DNC.

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>And I mean down but you're right exactly, But you know,

0:39:05.719 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>but you, I mean one of the things that I

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>appreciate but appreciate about you is you don't mince words.

0:39:12.800 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>So the DNC is having a terrible time raising money.

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>We have congressional candidates raising gobs of money, we have

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 1>packs raising money, we have I me and I was

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>talking to a congressional candidate today who raised two million dollars.

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:31.160
<v Speaker 1>You know whatever, So you know how to run staff.

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:35.360
<v Speaker 1>That's one of your many charms. So explain to us

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:38.120
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck is happening? Why is why is the

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.160
<v Speaker 1>party apparatus not doing well?

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:44.279
<v Speaker 4>Come on, let me Uh one is the people on

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 4>the other end. You would never usually describe what I

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:50.360
<v Speaker 4>do as charm or charming, but I appreciate that. I

0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 4>appreciate the flat I appreciate the flattery. It's a first

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 4>for me. So look, money is usually a barometer of

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 4>a vote of confidence or not. And I think you

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 4>can conclude if they're having the DNC is having problems,

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 4>it's because they don't think the money was well spent.

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 4>In twenty twenty four we had we had three billion

0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 4>dollars spent. We have not allowed to show for two

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 4>is you're going to make a break from the past.

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:23.600
<v Speaker 4>You got to offer a roadmap. Here's what I would say.

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.080
<v Speaker 4>I'm not the DNC chair, don't want it.

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:28.120
<v Speaker 1>No, I know you don't want it.

0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.759
<v Speaker 4>Here, but it's not open. Ken Martin's there.

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 3>But here's what I would do.

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.719
<v Speaker 4>You got to give people a sense of confidence not

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 4>only the money is going to be well spent, but

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.280
<v Speaker 4>here's the blueprint and what I would say. Two points

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:43.399
<v Speaker 4>that I think are important when one party controls both

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 4>sides of Pennsylvania Avenue nineteen ninety four, two thousand and six,

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 4>twenty ten, twenty eighteen, there's a law of physics aid

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.760
<v Speaker 4>kick in party out of power, massive turnout. That's exactly

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.959
<v Speaker 4>what we've been seeing since a year ago. A little

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 4>over fourteen months ago, Independence break two to one for

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.000
<v Speaker 4>the party out of power. We've seen that all over

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 4>the place. Number three, the party in power, turnout depresses

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.319
<v Speaker 4>from the time before seeing that. So the law of

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 4>physics is happening for twenty twenty six. What you want

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 4>to do in certain places, as the party chair, is

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 4>prepare for twenty twenty eight. So take your seven key states, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia,

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.240
<v Speaker 4>North Carolina, and the blue Wall. I would make sure

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 4>that from the school board to the governor's office, every

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 4>line is filled because if there's a wave, you've got

0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 4>to have ten thousand surfboards out there, and that wave

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 4>is going to take people into shore, and that begins

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 4>your farm team, that begins you're organizing, That begins your

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 4>contact you have field operations, you know how to drill

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 4>down because that is those seven states. Remember we've now

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 4>had let's just go back to twenty twenty six, roughly

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.960
<v Speaker 4>four hundred and fifty thousand and seven hundred thousand Americans

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 4>decide the presidency in seven states, So basically it's down

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 4>to two percent in each stick.

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 3>You should be using.

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 4>A wave to prepare for what will be a nip

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 4>and tuck election. That plan should be presented and people

0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:24.879
<v Speaker 4>will invest in a blueprint and it's incumbent upon their

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.240
<v Speaker 4>meeting as you and I talking. That is the DNCI.

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.800
<v Speaker 4>They're talking about the schedule of what states go first.

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Fair discussion. But to me, as somebody who kind of

0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 4>set out a blueprint in two thousand and six that

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 4>nobody you know, that was novel at the time. We're

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.320
<v Speaker 4>going to now, we're going to cruit people out of

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 4>the national security pool, not just state centators, not just

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 4>state reps. Aim like Mikey Cheryl, Mikey Cheryl and Abigail.

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 4>That was twenty eighteen. But it was the same blueprint

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 4>you look at today. I mean, this was not that blueprint.

0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 4>But Chris Murphy, Senator for came out of the two

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:05.520
<v Speaker 4>thousand and six class. So did Chuck Schumer's colleague, Christin

0:43:05.600 --> 0:43:08.800
<v Speaker 4>Gilaret came out of the two thousand and sixth class.

0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 4>Tim Walls came out of the two thousand and sixth class. Okay,

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:16.160
<v Speaker 4>so what you want to do take your seven states,

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 4>and I'm saying, drill all the way down and maybe

0:43:20.080 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 4>even below school board and every line. I don't care

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 4>about that precinct, I don't care about that district has

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:32.280
<v Speaker 4>a D next to it. Somebody is filling that slot.

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 4>And you're gonna build a farm team and then run

0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 4>a field operation in those seven states. This election doesn't

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 4>take away from what you can do in Ohio. US

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Senate doesn't take away from it. So I don't want

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 4>to get everybody's room. You didn't mention my state. I don't,

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.720
<v Speaker 4>you know? Yeah, we You know, governing is to choose.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:53.520
<v Speaker 4>And I used to say this. I used to say

0:43:53.520 --> 0:43:55.399
<v Speaker 4>this to President Obama. I said it when I was mayor.

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 4>What ends up in the oval office, what ends up

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 4>on the fifth floor, and mayor is choices between bad

0:43:59.880 --> 0:44:01.960
<v Speaker 4>and worse. Yeah, you've got to have the judgment and

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.319
<v Speaker 4>the character and know what the difference is. Yeah, And

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 4>so I would say, yes, we're going to invest in

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 4>these other states, We're going to do and perform, but

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:12.840
<v Speaker 4>these ones, these seven are first among all fifty. And

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 4>that's what I would approach us as because you're creating

0:44:15.600 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 4>a farm team for twenty twenty eight. You're creating a

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 4>farm team for Congress one day. You're creating a farm

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.879
<v Speaker 4>team for mayor one day. And that's how you build

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 4>a party. You don't show up four weeks before the election.

0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, are you av me?

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 4>That's what I would do.

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you think not releasing an autopsy was a mistake.

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:37.960
<v Speaker 4>I slightly have a yeah, maybe this is the middle

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 4>child a slightly nuanced physician, which is the report comes

0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 4>is wrapped up bound right when you have Republicans on

0:44:46.960 --> 0:44:49.880
<v Speaker 4>the run on healthcare. I would not have switched the conversation.

0:44:50.000 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 4>And media in Washington can't handle two conversations at once.

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Keep your focus on the Republicans, get them hard on healthcare,

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 4>make sure when they're going go on home they're getting

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:06.080
<v Speaker 4>slapped around by their constituents. You now have ACA enrollments.

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 4>Over one point four million families lost health care in

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 4>America because of the Republicans. I want to drive that

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 4>all the way to the end zone. Now. When it

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.560
<v Speaker 4>first came, this is like three weeks before, two weeks

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.439
<v Speaker 4>before New Year's I had have released it December thirty first,

0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 4>and all us wackos who really care about it, we

0:45:23.160 --> 0:45:26.239
<v Speaker 4>know what happened, but we would read it, etc. But

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't change the story from chasing the Republicans out

0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:33.680
<v Speaker 4>of town and having failed America on healthcare. So that's

0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:36.640
<v Speaker 4>so timing when you released I would not sit here

0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:40.839
<v Speaker 4>and spend money on a report and leave it for

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 4>the archives. Now I don't have high hopes that it's

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:46.319
<v Speaker 4>going to change behavioral patterns. I would release it, but

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 4>I would not let it confuse distract us from driving

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:52.160
<v Speaker 4>a health care and affordability.

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Message for my own aedification.

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 4>And also I would say distract the media who are

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.759
<v Speaker 4>proven to be well they're one ball there, that we're

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 4>all on ball jugglers at one level.

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so but for my own edification, because that's

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>all I really care about.

0:46:06.239 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 4>What very interesting marketing model.

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh it's great, people love it, But what like Biden World,

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 1>I have a whole theory of what went wrong, which

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.759
<v Speaker 1>was they spent two years not letting their guy anywhere

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 1>near anyone, and then two years furious that everyone was

0:46:23.600 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>so mad at them and thought there was something wrong

0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.319
<v Speaker 1>with him. Is that right? I mean, what do you

0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.920
<v Speaker 1>think went wrong? Because something was really wrong by the

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.919
<v Speaker 1>time he was up for reelection and you could see

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it everywhere.

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the Oval office is incredibly seductive. You don't spend

0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:42.879
<v Speaker 4>forty years of your life like Joe Bien. You get

0:46:42.920 --> 0:46:44.680
<v Speaker 4>there and all of a sudden you're going to say, like,

0:46:44.880 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 4>well this is like hot, hot, hot, and I'm going

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.640
<v Speaker 4>to walk away from it. Have you ever seen anybody

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:53.160
<v Speaker 4>walk away from something seductive. Okay, well, and then two,

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:57.280
<v Speaker 4>having been both President Clinton senior advisor and President Obama

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:00.839
<v Speaker 4>chief staff, you have to fight against being in and

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:07.200
<v Speaker 4>that became an insular White House in space, and the

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 4>Oval Office to him and his family was incredibly seductive.

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.520
<v Speaker 4>And this pledge that was made, it was implicit, but

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:19.120
<v Speaker 4>everybody interpreted, and he let the interpretation ride. In twenty

0:47:19.160 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 4>twenty was this was going to be a reset after

0:47:23.840 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 4>four years of Donald Trump. And then I know stage left,

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 4>and he broke that. That's one.

0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Two.

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:32.920
<v Speaker 4>This is an observation. I think it gets less attention,

0:47:33.040 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 4>but it's mine. He runs in twenty twenty, I'm bringing

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.040
<v Speaker 4>the country together post Donald Trump, and a correct message

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:43.759
<v Speaker 4>to answer what country everybody felt was wrong in our

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:48.280
<v Speaker 4>Trump politics, and the White House walks away from bringing

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 4>the country together, profining unity and ends up trying to

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 4>unify the Democratic Party rather than try to unify the country.

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:59.440
<v Speaker 4>And so again a second bait in twitch third is

0:48:00.560 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 4>he argues with the American people somewhat where Donald Trump's

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 4>replicating it today, that what you're seeing in front of

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.040
<v Speaker 4>your eyes at the grocery store, at your home, etc.

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 4>Is not true, which is and look, this is a

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:19.239
<v Speaker 4>thirty year project. What I'm about to say phenomenon. Rather,

0:48:19.640 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 4>the American dream has become unaffordable and inaccessible, and that

0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:27.839
<v Speaker 4>is unacceptable to us. And Joe Piden Scratt and Joe

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 4>was the byproduct of an era in an American dream

0:48:32.920 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 4>that a dos an hard scrabble family down on their

0:48:37.760 --> 0:48:40.520
<v Speaker 4>luck and yet their son still goes to school and

0:48:40.520 --> 0:48:45.279
<v Speaker 4>then goes to the highest office. That is true. But

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:49.279
<v Speaker 4>today we have Lion's Sheriff kids whose parents worked hard,

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.840
<v Speaker 4>played by the rules, safe for their kids' education. Their

0:48:51.920 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 4>kids go to college, educating me three to four times

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 4>what they made when they came out of school, and

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.280
<v Speaker 4>they're living in the basement. They can't afford an apartment,

0:48:58.800 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 4>let alone get to a house. That contract has busted.

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 4>The average age of first time home ownership is now

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 4>forty a decade ago, it was twenty seven, and then

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:13.120
<v Speaker 4>so so and not feeling that, which is weird for

0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 4>a guy who's the product of that, right, not feeling that,

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<v Speaker 4>not theoretically with a policy paper from your National Economic Console,

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<v Speaker 4>in his is, we would say, in his tishka, not

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<v Speaker 4>in his bones, and not empathize and you can say

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<v Speaker 4>whatevery sday you want to say about President Clinton, but

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<v Speaker 4>empathizing with that angst, that anguish. And I do think

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<v Speaker 4>from all my travels around America, you have this big angst,

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<v Speaker 4>this anguish that we're not taking care of our business.

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<v Speaker 4>We know that the world is off its axis. We

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<v Speaker 4>want Washington, which is Disneyland on the Potomac, to get

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<v Speaker 4>right with America. And President Biden, who is a friend,

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<v Speaker 4>should have both seen that. And I'm given also the

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<v Speaker 4>prior to examples that made been faithful to that, and

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<v Speaker 4>he broke that faith. And it's unfortunate because had he

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<v Speaker 4>done what he said he was going to do, he

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<v Speaker 4>had gotten America. You got without going through all the

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<v Speaker 4>commonness back A lot of stuff done, not all of it.

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<v Speaker 4>You just don't. You run your race, your hand and

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<v Speaker 4>got the baton. You hopefully leave the race better improved

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<v Speaker 4>than the one when you picked up the baton. And

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<v Speaker 4>he could have claimed that in many ways.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to think when you think about that angs,

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<v Speaker 1>you must think about people like Elon Moss, who makes

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<v Speaker 1>so much money. I mean, we have I come from,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of privilege, but I never there

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<v Speaker 1>were never people.

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<v Speaker 4>Trillion dollar pay packages, right, because this gets to my

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't mean to cut off, but so go

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<v Speaker 4>ahead and finish. But I really want to say something

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<v Speaker 4>about this. In this whole affordability argument, home ownership, groceries,

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<v Speaker 4>health care costs. You know what, the American people need

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<v Speaker 4>a race. You got a guy get a trillion dollar

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<v Speaker 4>pay package and just take last yesterday's in economic remon

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<v Speaker 4>incomes are stagnant in America. Let alone that you've had

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<v Speaker 4>a year a decline and manufacturing jobs and other things.

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<v Speaker 4>Incomes are stagnant, and you have people with pay packages

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<v Speaker 4>that never are.

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<v Speaker 1>But isn't this a failure to regulate? I mean, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have the very very rich making more and more

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<v Speaker 1>and more and you don't have a minimum wage that

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<v Speaker 1>people catch up, I mean a failure.

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<v Speaker 4>Just one thing, changing the tax look our tax code.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just do you say regulation. I'm not against reforming

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<v Speaker 4>and making changes, but you're not going to deal with

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<v Speaker 4>income inequality, stagnant wages on regulation. If you think you're

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<v Speaker 4>just going to press this and you're wrong, that's not

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<v Speaker 4>how the economics, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me just but I just want to I

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<v Speaker 1>just I'm going to add one thing with you question here,

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<v Speaker 1>because the core is gause. We're interrupters here.

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<v Speaker 4>I want We're at a Jewish dinner table.

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<v Speaker 1>We're both interrupters here. So I just want to add

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<v Speaker 1>one thing here, which is we are a country that regularly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that we give tax credits to big tech

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<v Speaker 1>companies and not to newspapers. So now newspapers have died

0:52:18.719 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and Elon Musk has billions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Go okay. I think the way to look at it

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<v Speaker 4>if you look at our history and also look at economics. One,

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<v Speaker 4>when the economics gets off kilter and way too tilted

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<v Speaker 4>towards the few and the benefit and the wealthy, the

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<v Speaker 4>government historically from Teddy Roseve and Franklin Rosnet has tilted

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<v Speaker 4>the scales to level it out because a free market

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<v Speaker 4>on its own spins out of control. We've seen it

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<v Speaker 4>in the financial crisis, We've seen it in I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't want to go through all the history.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Second, as an example, in the both the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 4>and this administration has tilted the scales way too much

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<v Speaker 4>towards the well off and the wealthy. The second piece

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<v Speaker 4>is our tax code is about preserving wealth. Not about

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<v Speaker 4>creating wealth and most exemplified, but what the President and

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<v Speaker 4>the Republicans did. Look, I'm a product of My dad

0:53:20.880 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 4>came here without a bucket to spit in a window,

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<v Speaker 4>to throw it out of pediatric practice, built it up,

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<v Speaker 4>his kids do well, et cetera. I have a tax

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<v Speaker 4>code that allows me to do stuff for my children.

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<v Speaker 4>As now that's not going to happen. You know, you

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<v Speaker 4>beget a schmuk the The tax code is written to

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<v Speaker 4>incentivize a generation of transferring wealth rather than kids going

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<v Speaker 4>out and creating wealth. This is insane, and we are

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<v Speaker 4>protecting the comfortable and inflicting pain on the uncomfortable. And

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<v Speaker 4>from the tax code to your country's investments, we're in

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<v Speaker 4>a technological scientific cold war with China. Quantum AI, life sciences, fusion,

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<v Speaker 4>just go down the list. We should be investing in

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<v Speaker 4>competing and winning in that area, investing in Americans education capacity,

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:15.799
<v Speaker 4>investing in our energy potential, not just putting our thumb

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:18.200
<v Speaker 4>on Venezuela as oil. But we have a couple of

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.960
<v Speaker 4>technologies geo thermal battery storage, et cetera. Then America can

0:54:22.040 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 4>leap frog China. But we're not investing in America. We're

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:30.040
<v Speaker 4>investing a few Americans and that's the problem. We've left

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of America and the American people out of

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<v Speaker 4>this competition.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't mean to be critical, but my one observations,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not against the regulation, depending how you do it,

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<v Speaker 4>but if you leave the tax code in place, the

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<v Speaker 4>regulation a't gonna solve for fifty kids percent of your

0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:50.879
<v Speaker 4>kids not reading at grade level. Not going to solve

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<v Speaker 4>it if you leave. The fact is that we have

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<v Speaker 4>a graduate dropout rate that is unacceptable in a modern economy. You,

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<v Speaker 4>in fact, declare war on your greatest universities and research

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<v Speaker 4>centers that the world around envies. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>get out of here. So it's not going to be regulation.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a tool in the toolbox, I think the toolbox, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for joining us.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, sure, thanks thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>No moment perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Cannon my junk fast.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is one of the more chilling moments of

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration and its aggressions towards journalists. We see

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<v Speaker 2>a Washington Post reporter having their devices rated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know you're going to be very surprised to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this, but the Trump administration. They are not free

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<v Speaker 1>speech absolutests, despite the fact that we were promised that

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration was filled with people like free speech

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:52.800
<v Speaker 1>lover Barry Wise. No, they do not love free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what's happening. The FBI raided a home of Washington

0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Post reporter. They did it because she had written something

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<v Speaker 1>about government contractors quitting the Trump administration. They did it

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<v Speaker 1>because they wanted her sources. They wanted the information illegally

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<v Speaker 1>linked from a Pentagon contractor, so they raided the Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>home of Hannah and Nattinson. Part of it is that

0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:23.440
<v Speaker 1>they want to intimidate journalists. They want people to be scared.

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<v Speaker 1>That's part of this. Part of this is also just

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, they don't really care about your civil liberties.

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 1>They don't really care about due process. They don't really

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 1>give a fuck about like the rule of law. So

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:40.799
<v Speaker 1>they have no problem just going into somebody's house. Like

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<v Speaker 1>even the fact that like nobody would tell you that

0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:47.520
<v Speaker 1>was okay, right because it's not how many it's supposed

0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to work. But it doesn't matter. And that's where we

0:56:50.440 --> 0:56:54.160
<v Speaker 1>are right now, is that the Trump administration, Josh doesn't

0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:59.040
<v Speaker 1>give a fuck they will raid journalists' houses, they will

0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 1>let ice kill people. There is no due process. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, until Republicans and when you listen to

0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>this and you go, well, republicans are never stand up. Yeah,

0:57:10.840 --> 0:57:15.640
<v Speaker 1>that's probably right. But until Republicans do something, until they

0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:18.600
<v Speaker 1>stand up to this, I don't see a world in

0:57:18.640 --> 0:57:23.280
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