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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: the world churns own. Andy Leeby steps by to talk

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Speaker 1: about Donald Trump's more on the American people. Then we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to former mayor of Chicago and Obama White House

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Speaker 1: up and how they can win the midterms. But first

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Speaker 2: Someone we've heard Vice President just dance fans say things

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Speaker 2: like that ICE officers are immune to prosecution, and Steven

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Speaker 2: basically saying ICE officers could do whatever they want and

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Speaker 2: they will be pardoned is quite quite bad and like

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Speaker 2: something that's going to lead to very bad outcomes, but

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Speaker 2: most of all, also something that's going to continue to

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Speaker 2: make them very unpopular.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, basically this is what Stephen Miller said, and he

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Speaker 1: said it on television because so much of this is

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Speaker 1: performative to all ICE officers who have federal immunity in

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Speaker 1: the conduct of your duties. By the way, they have

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Speaker 1: qualified immunity. Qualified immunity is not the same as federal immunity.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily mean that you can do whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: a felony. Also not necessarily true, because it's not how

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Speaker 1: many of this works. You have immunity to perform your duties.

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Speaker 1: And no one knows city official, no state official, no

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Speaker 1: illegal alien, no leftist agitator, or domestic insurrectionists can prevent

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Speaker 1: you from fulfilling your legal obligations and duties. That's not true.

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely not true. And the Apartment of Justice has

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Speaker 1: made clear that an official crosses the line into obstruction

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Speaker 1: into criminal conspiracy against you. Says are against ICE officials,

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Speaker 1: the officers, they will face justice. That is not correct.

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Speaker 1: That is, they have qualified immunity the what police do too.

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Speaker 1: And also Stephen Miller has now he sees that these

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Speaker 1: ICE agents are getting a lot of pushback for what

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Speaker 1: they're doing, and he sees that this polling is not popular.

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Speaker 1: And because he's Steven Miller and because Trump two point

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Speaker 1: zero is this insane mechanism where they just go full authoritarian.

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Speaker 1: He's just doubling down on it. He's saying, do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want, do as much as you want. What's going

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Speaker 1: to happen here is what happened in Minnesota, but worse right,

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Speaker 1: they're going to do worse. They're going to hurt more people,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to kill more people, and there's going

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Speaker 1: doing it, and they're not going to stop doing it

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Speaker 1: on their own. And I think that's what we have

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Speaker 1: to understand here. Like we always say, like Republicans need

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Speaker 1: to stand up to them, and people say, well, they're

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Speaker 1: not going to stand up to them, okay, But until

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Speaker 1: they do so, this continues. And so maybe they don't

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Speaker 1: feel like standing up to them, maybe the Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to say no Trump, that's enough. But until

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Speaker 1: they do, it just gets worse and worse and worse.

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Speaker 1: And we are not even done with your one. So

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Speaker 1: that's what's so stupid about this whole fucking thing is

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Speaker 1: that you can say, oh, Republicans are cowards, They're never

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Speaker 1: going to stand up to him. They are cowards for sure,

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Speaker 1: no one's arguing with that. But until they do, it's

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Speaker 1: just gonna get worse and worse and worse. So like,

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Speaker 1: until Tucker Carlson and every dipshit on Fox News says

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Speaker 1: you got to stop shooting people in the face, it's

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Speaker 1: not gonna stop. So again I implore you, as a

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Speaker 1: listener to this podcast, like all of us need to

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Speaker 1: be talking to our representatives, especially the Republican ones, and saying, look, man,

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Speaker 1: you gotta tell him it's not okay to have a

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Speaker 1: gestapo going through Minnesota, ripping special education teachers out of

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Speaker 1: enemy that doesn't exist. I mean, that's how we got here.

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Speaker 1: We are not a country at war, right, Immigration is

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Speaker 1: a net negative now or a zero. This is not

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Speaker 1: a country that needs a secret police force. This is

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only reason they're in Minnesota and not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is sad since the second Dick Shirley's

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Speaker 2: ing Senator Ed Markey in the far left set a

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Speaker 2: he's calling the issue shut down worthy. What do you

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Speaker 1: He's right, they should shut down the fucking gummery over Ice.

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Speaker 3: They should.

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Speaker 1: I agree, the spending package right now gave ICE seventy

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Speaker 1: You know who's not funded through twenty twenty nine, anyone else?

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is just fucking madness. They are doing

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Speaker 1: a reparable harm to our communities, to our country, and

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Speaker 1: Republicans should abse fucking lutely shut down the government over

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Speaker 1: this bullshit. One hundred percent. Malton said, the one beautiful

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Speaker 1: bill nearly triples ICE budget. ICE's budget at a time

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Speaker 1: when American families are losing their health insurance. He didn't

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Speaker 1: we want to extend ACA premium tax credits. They shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be lapsing now again. I think a lot of them

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Speaker 1: they shut down the government, that's the first to do it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you may not see that on CBS News,

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Speaker 2: So I'm thinking a lot about the platform formerly known

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Speaker 2: ban X because Groc keeps undressing underage girls and things

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Speaker 2: like that and there's no guardrails on it, and that

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Speaker 2: In fact, it did it twenty seven times. Because Elon

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Speaker 2: Department of warhead Pete Hegsith has decided they should turn

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Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, Elon mash he has head to

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Speaker 1: Like when Elon is always like, oh, there's fraud in

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Speaker 1: the government. Like you worked in the fun government. Doje

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Speaker 1: cut lots of government contracts. So the idea that he

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Speaker 1: and fuck Moore shit up is pretty hilarious to make.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this. So Pete Hagsath, who is both

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Speaker 1: how it's been trained. Grock will be integrated into the

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Speaker 1: Pentagon's network, including classified systems, as a part of a

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Speaker 1: broader initiative to help Republican donors. I'm sorry to initiate

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Speaker 1: and incorporate AI technology across the military. Speaking at SpaceX,

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Speaker 1: which is headquartered in South Texas, which has a governor

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Speaker 1: who will do anything Donald Trump wants. His name is

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Speaker 1: Greg Abbott. Heigsas said, groc will go live inside the

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Speaker 1: grown ups at the US military are giving Pete hag

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Speaker 3: Oh god, so stupid.

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Speaker 2: It's very stupid. Speaking of stupid, Senator Alissa Slotkin of

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Speaker 2: the Great State of Michigan says that prosecutors are investigating

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we know this to be true because they

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Speaker 2: The other thing we know is they're going to send

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Speaker 2: somebody very incompetent after them aka Judge box of Wide Piro.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she found out an inquiry and from the office

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Speaker 1: This is how it goes right, Judge box of Wine

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Speaker 1: is these people are morons, right, Like they're trying to

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Speaker 1: go after j Powell for a renovation that went over budget. Okay,

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Speaker 1: j Pal I'm no fan of any of these people, but.

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Speaker 2: Are my favorite announcements. A renovation that would overbudget aka

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Speaker 1: Also, when they were in the if you watch the

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Speaker 1: Jay Powell looks and he goes, you added another building.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these people they're just not smart. And thank

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Speaker 1: you're so smart? Seventy back the impeachment of Christy Nome

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Speaker 3: up the impeachment, right.

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Speaker 3: I am not one to give the Democrats a pass. Molly.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 3: Seventy on day one, and I would assume probably still

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Speaker 3: It's unreal. I mean, they could literally spend every waking

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Speaker 3: various officials, and that would be a good use of

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: So much has to be done about what's going on now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I also think that the ICE numbers

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Speaker 1: People who get fifty thousand dollars in a cave a bag?

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Truly we are.

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Speaker 4: We are being run by.

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Speaker 1: The dumbest, most corrupt Yeah. True or false? Like the

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Speaker 3: True. I think a lot of them are stupid. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, look, I mean there's a couple of different

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Speaker 3: they're putting out videos that they think are going to

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Speaker 3: show this dude in a good light. And people are

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Speaker 3: looking at this video and unless you are fully cooked

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Speaker 3: and you're in you know, maga world, you know, you're

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Speaker 3: one of that thirty percent of America maybe even smaller,

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Speaker 3: you are not looking at that video and saying to yourself,

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Speaker 3: you know, oh yeah, you're looking at the video going wait,

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Speaker 3: you think this makes him look good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I think there's a lot of that going on now.

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Speaker 3: And that's why you always hear you know, Trump loves

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Speaker 3: to talk about the polls that he somehow thinks he's

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Speaker 3: doing well in when he's really not, because my guess

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Speaker 3: is they don't show him the actual polls, and they

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Speaker 3: probably tell him he's doing really well. They have sort

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Speaker 3: of adopted this mindset that, you know, yeah, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: get yelled at by the woke, you know, media and

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Speaker 3: liberal tears and all that and you know you mad

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Speaker 3: bruh and all that stuff, and they think the majority

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Speaker 3: of the country agrees with them, and they are dead

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Speaker 3: wrong on that. And I'm not excusing the people that

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Speaker 3: voted for Trump who now are are coming to grips

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Speaker 3: with what they did. But in a sense, this is

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Speaker 3: what they voted for, because they should have known that

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Speaker 3: this is what they voted for. But in a sense,

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Speaker 3: this is not what they voted for, because somehow they

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Speaker 3: didn't realize this is what they were voting for. And

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Speaker 3: they don't want to see this. They don't want to

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Speaker 3: see a white woman, not to put too fine a

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Speaker 3: point on it, get shot in the face right by

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Speaker 3: some dude in you know, wearing camo. That's not what

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Speaker 3: they want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think about this video that was on Twitter

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Speaker 1: today that Laura Loomer did of Thomas Massey. And there's

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Speaker 1: a guy following Thomas Massey and he's like, Thomas Massey,

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Speaker 1: why don't you just become a Democrat now? And Thomas

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Speaker 1: Massey is like, because I voted Republicans ninety one percent

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Speaker 1: of the time, but the nine percent I don't vote

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Speaker 1: with them. It's because they're protecting pedophiles or launching foreign wars.

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Speaker 1: And they put that up to show you'd gotten lumored.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, you have to be in such a

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Speaker 1: brain fog to think that that makes a person look bad,

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Speaker 1: and you have to be like so sort of down

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Speaker 1: the partisan rabbit hole as opposed to like seeing things

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Speaker 1: for what they are, and you really do see it's

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Speaker 1: just such a they're so they're so removed from the

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Speaker 1: kind of it's like, you know, you do actually need

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Speaker 1: to have people who tell you the truth. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, it really reminds me of the

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Speaker 1: Bill Ackman problem. Right, if nobody ever tells you the truth,

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Speaker 1: you really believe that everything you think is brilliant.

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Speaker 3: A one hundred percent absolutely, and it's you know, it's

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Speaker 3: the Bill Ackman problem. It's been the Elon Musk problem

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Speaker 3: for a very long time. Unfortunately, people like that have

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Speaker 3: made it our problem. We all know what Fox News,

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Speaker 3: my former employee, has done to people in this country.

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Speaker 3: It's just a given. But we say sometimes forget that

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Speaker 3: while the Fox News viewership is high for a cable

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Speaker 3: news network, it is a minuscule percentage of citizens in

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Speaker 3: this country. So Laura Ingram and people like that can

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Speaker 3: go on there and say whatever they want. And yes,

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Speaker 3: the true believers, you know, the people who never change

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Speaker 3: the channel from Fox News or you know, and the

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Speaker 3: people who spend all day on Twitter yelling slurs at

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Speaker 3: people of color and creating you know, child porn with croc. Sure,

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Speaker 3: they're going to stay with you. You know, you were

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Speaker 3: you were, you were the anti war president. Now you're

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Speaker 3: talking about annexing.

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Speaker 1: Greenland with Grainland.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they'll sell that, and because they know their

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Speaker 3: viewership are part of that percentage that will go along

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Speaker 3: with that. It's just again that that ain't fifty percent

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Speaker 3: of the country. It's not even close. And I'm not

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Speaker 3: trying to paint America as like you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: think fifty percent of the country agrees with me. I

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Speaker 3: would never say that you know, one hundred percent of

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Speaker 3: the country should agree with me. That would be that

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Speaker 3: would be a that would be a true great society, Molly.

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Speaker 3: But it's just not going to happen. But if you

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Speaker 3: walk around thinking that, Oh, look, the people on Twitter

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Speaker 3: are agreeing with me, the Fox News hosts are agreeing

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Speaker 3: with me, the Fox News viewers are agreeing with me.

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Speaker 3: I've got the country behind me. Oh buddy, you are

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Speaker 3: so wrong about that.

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Speaker 1: Andy leave Molly John fast we come back?

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Speaker 3: Will I come back?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That is That is a good question, I suppose in

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Speaker 3: a philosophical sense, if you want to get I don't know,

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Speaker 3: like ontological about it. There's a chance that I will

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Speaker 3: come back. But I'll have to look into the pistemology

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Speaker 3: and uh, I'll let you know how things shake out.

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Speaker 1: Excellent. Rom Manuel is the former mayor of Chicago and

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Speaker 1: chief of staff to President Ron.

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Speaker 4: Welcome, Rom, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You went to Mississippi. Did a town hall talk about Mississippi?

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Speaker 1: Because this is really interesting what they're doing.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, I'll.

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Speaker 4: Try to control my enthusiasm. I mean, you don't know this,

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Speaker 4: but prior to public service, I actually studied to be

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Speaker 4: a early childhood educator, early childhood psychologists. My dad was

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Speaker 4: a pediatrician. It was an interest in mind following all

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Speaker 4: the way through. When it was mayor, I created full

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Speaker 4: day kindergarten in Chicago, which it did not have for

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Speaker 4: every child, and full day pre k which it never

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Speaker 4: had for every four year old in the city. So

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Speaker 4: it's a very big interest of mine, and we ended

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Speaker 4: up being the number one public school system according to

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Speaker 4: Sean Reardon at Stanford University. So there's this analysis starting

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Speaker 4: about a little shy of two decades ago. They call

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Speaker 4: it in Mississippi the Mississippi Marathon, not the Miracle, but

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Speaker 4: they went from forty ninth to ninth kind of pretty simple,

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Speaker 4: hard to do, but simple. They re oriented reading around

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Speaker 4: phonics science and reading science. They gave teachers a whole

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Speaker 4: new program and training, They didn't hire coaches for both

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Speaker 4: the principal and all the teachers. They gave additional kind

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Speaker 4: of guaranteed time, a minimum of an hour and fifteen

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Speaker 4: minutes on reading. And then they gave the kids not

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Speaker 4: only support, but if they were starting to look like

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Speaker 4: they were falling behind, an investment in a tutor, etc.

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Speaker 4: And then a consequence, which is if you don't past

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Speaker 4: third grader, and you're not going to fourth grade, so

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Speaker 4: there's a real kind of accountability. All said, they moved dramatically,

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Speaker 4: and I wanted to and since education is in my view,

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Speaker 4: it is unacceptable to have fifty percent of your kids

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Speaker 4: at reading level at grade level and fifty percent it's

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Speaker 4: like competing for the future with one hand type behind

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Speaker 4: your back. And what Mississippi showed, given their demographics is

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Speaker 4: don't throw your towel in a razor white flag on

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Speaker 4: every child. That's just not true secondary but important. A

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Speaker 4: lot of debates about this, I've been reading about them. Louisiana, Alabama,

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Speaker 4: and Tennessee go to rep an, Indian River County in

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Speaker 4: Florida go to replicate, and all see the same kind

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Speaker 4: of I wouldn't say hockey stick, but improvement when the

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Speaker 4: rest of the country is dropping right, And so I

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Speaker 4: wanted to see it firsthand, because you know, one, education

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Speaker 4: is core to what I'm interested in. If you go

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Speaker 4: through history of the United States, whether it starts after

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Speaker 4: the Civil War, beginning of the twentieth century, after World

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Speaker 4: War Two, or the Apollo Project, those are the great

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Speaker 4: periods of economic growth in America. They're all underpinned by

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Speaker 4: one thing. Lang Grand College is universal high school education,

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Speaker 4: GI Bill, and the investment in science and technology i e.

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Speaker 4: The Powow Project, all of them underpinned by education. And

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Speaker 4: I think we're in a great competition with China and

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Speaker 4: we can't afford to have fifty percent of our kids

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Speaker 4: failing and reading a math. Just can't. And if it's

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Speaker 4: going to be a commitment of public school, you got

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Speaker 4: to improve it. And it's going to be core to

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Speaker 4: my view about making sure the American dream is attainable

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Speaker 4: to more Americans, not fewer Americans. So I wanted to

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Speaker 4: see firsthand, not just read about them. That's why I

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Speaker 4: went down there. And there's probably a secondary political benefit

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Speaker 4: and just being blunt a lot of Democrats, I've went, oh,

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Speaker 4: show up where we don't go. And then they're saying

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Speaker 4: it from a high rise in Manhattan in their little

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Speaker 4: lemon pants holding their yetty cup and never show up,

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Speaker 4: not to take shots at Manhattan. But I don't talk

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Speaker 4: about it. I want to go. I went to a

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Speaker 4: water valley held at town Hall, a town of thirty

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Speaker 4: four hundred and in the county. Donald Trump won by twenty

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Speaker 4: one percent. A little more progressive than the rest of

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Speaker 4: the county. But there's thirty four hundred people, about one

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Speaker 4: hundred and eighty, one hundred and sixty showed up and

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Speaker 4: they have the sheriff out there to control traffic. They

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Speaker 4: never had that. And anybody can come to the microphone

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Speaker 4: ask about people, ask about vocational it. They ask about

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Speaker 4: early childhood education. They asked about homeless kids. You know

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Speaker 4: what they didn't ask Nobody asked about a bathroom access,

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Speaker 4: a locker room access. They ask about what matters to

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Speaker 4: their kids. And it would be high time that the

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Speaker 4: rest of us listen to that.

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Speaker 3: So that's a mouthful.

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Speaker 1: So what's the goal here, Well, let me I got

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Speaker 1: it more goal. It's a broad question, but.

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Speaker 4: Let me back up. I obviously started national politics working

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Speaker 4: for ben Governor Bill Clinton running for president. When I

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Speaker 4: started Bill Clinton, governor Governor Winter, Mississippi, Governor Riley of

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Speaker 4: South Carolina, Governor Hunt in North Carolina, Governors Belle Miller

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Speaker 4: of Georgia, and Governor Childs. We're all in the forefront

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Speaker 4: of answering the challenge of the report A Nation at Risk.

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Speaker 4: Every one of these governors were in the forefront, and

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Speaker 4: I worked with President Clinton on public school choice teachers

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Speaker 4: of excellent. I worked for President Obama as the chief

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Speaker 4: staff implementing a race to the top. You're a very

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Speaker 4: smart person. Name me the five top governors in education

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Speaker 4: reform and what they've done. Okay, that's an answer. Number two.

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Speaker 4: You know more about the president's position on windmills than

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Speaker 4: you do his position on how to reverse reading score

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Speaker 4: drops across the mass scores we've abandoned.

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Speaker 1: He has no position on that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, But but you know what, fifty governors control ninety

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Speaker 4: percent of all public school financing, and we have become

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Speaker 4: complacent with failure. Now I'm at a point in my

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Speaker 4: life I'm not going to do that, and if you

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Speaker 4: don't like it, I'm not your guy. But I believe fundamentally,

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Speaker 4: not only in public schools. I feel fundamentally in turning

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Speaker 4: this country around, and it's going to start in the classrooms.

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Speaker 4: That's why I also took on big technology first person

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Speaker 4: in public life to say every child sixteen or younger

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Speaker 4: should be banned from getting social media apps. Algorithms are

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Speaker 4: raising our kids rather than adults, and we've left them

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Speaker 4: as vulnerable to big tech as we did to big

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Speaker 4: tobacco at one point. So that's my core. And if

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Speaker 4: I decide to make another leap into elective office, I

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Speaker 4: want people to know where I stand. I'm at a

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Speaker 4: point in my life. I'm not going to tell you

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Speaker 4: what you want to hear. I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 4: what I think you need to hear. And so that's

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Speaker 4: the drive. But can I find this remarkable? We don't.

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Speaker 4: We have a thirty year low in reading of mass scores,

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Speaker 4: no nobody else and nobody an emergency meeting of governors.

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Speaker 4: Put aside your partisanship, put aside your differences on immigration.

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Speaker 4: We're going to have a meeting. We're gonna lay out

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Speaker 4: of a plan. Here's how we're going to do it. Our

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Speaker 4: answer vouchers close the Department of Education. Both parties are

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Speaker 4: guilty of abandoning our children to the mercy of the future.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but I just

649
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: don't understand. Like I certainly know that literacy in this

650
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: country is appalling. I know that the way we teach,

651
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: not teaching reading through phonics is a real problem. I've

652
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: certainly seen a lot of good stuff happen in different

653
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Speaker 1: ways with public schools, and charter schools, and there certainly

654
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: are many solutions that are not being implemented. And for me,

655
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Speaker 1: as an urban, white, Acal and Jewish person, this is

656
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Speaker 1: a platform I could get behind. But I want to

657
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: understand what the endgame here is. Like I mean, I

658
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: feel like I would, you know, write a check to

659
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Speaker 1: your foundation, but I don't understand.

660
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Speaker 4: Actually, right, yeah, So let me say you and I.

661
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Speaker 1: Know we live in the real world and the people

662
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Speaker 1: who run for president, I assume that's what you're.

663
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Speaker 4: Here's my view, which is I am going to tell

664
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 4: you what I'm interested in and what I'm gonna focus on. Right,

665
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 4: I have nothing against other canks want to talk about

666
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: how they're going to resist Donald Trump. I'm gonna talk

667
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 4: about how I'm gonna fight for kids. And you can

668
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 4: make a value judgment and a political judgment which you

669
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 4: find more important, and they're both equal. They're both valuable, right,

670
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: But I think you know, long term, you tell me

671
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: how you get from here to there as a country.

672
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 4: When third graders can't read at third grade level in China,

673
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 4: they're going six days a week, right, So let me

674
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Speaker 4: let me just finish one point. This has been a

675
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 4: through line in my life, public life, starting from early childhood.

676
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 4: Interested in being an early childhood ye to walk walking

677
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 4: into the worst public school system in America according to

678
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Speaker 4: William Bennett, and walking out with the best public school

679
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Speaker 4: system of the top one hundred and I took up

680
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 4: and it wasn't a linear line, but we took graduation

681
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Speaker 4: rates from fifty six to eighty three. First city in

682
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Speaker 4: America to say, if you get a be average in

683
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Speaker 4: our high schools, community college is free. First city in

684
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Speaker 4: America set a goal fifty percent of our kids graduating

685
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 4: with college credit in high school. And then first city

686
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Speaker 4: in America to say, you're not getting a diploma in

687
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Speaker 4: high school until you show us a letter of acceptance

688
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: from college, community college, or branch of the Armed forces

689
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: or vocational ed ins set a requirement. Okay, Now, that

690
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: to me is the most important thing, or one of

691
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Speaker 4: the most important things we have to do as a country.

692
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 4: And it's core to what I'm going to focus on now.

693
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Speaker 4: If you decide, if I decide to run, I'm not

694
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Speaker 4: a person of either weak, woke or gray. I come in,

695
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 4: as I like to say, in twenty twenty four, you

696
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 4: didn't have a choice. Right today, twenty twenty eight. You're

697
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 4: gonna have thirty one flavors and I'm gonna be rocky

698
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna be Rocky road. That's my flavor. You

699
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: might and you might as well know it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm man. I love the education stuff I

701
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: come from. You know, I'm married to an ed tech me. See,

702
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: so I spent a want.

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Speaker 4: Can I have one other comment that I apologize for interrupting,

704
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 4: and this is miss it. There's nothing wrong or nothing

705
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: challenging America that can't be cured by what's working in America.

706
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 4: Mississippi has this model and a couple in about a

707
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 4: month from now, I'm heading off to Michigan because they've

708
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 4: done excellent things and vocational at the answers to our

709
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: problem are happening at the local level. And as a

710
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: former mayor, you want to take these local models and

711
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 4: scale them. So basically, it's not dependent on kind of

712
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 4: a head of miss approach. And yeah, I just don't

713
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Speaker 4: think we have a child to waste or a community

714
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Speaker 4: overlook in making making sure everybody's ready for the twenty

715
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Speaker 4: first century.

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Speaker 1: No, I think that's right. So, but I want you

717
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: to talk about, like you know, how things are supposed

718
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: to work, and I want you to talk about what's happening.

719
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Speaker 1: It's a DNC right now, because I want you know

720
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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. I would.

721
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Speaker 4: It's a big, a big elage from Mississippi doc to

722
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Speaker 4: the DNC.

723
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Speaker 1: And I mean down but you're right exactly, But you know,

724
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: but you, I mean one of the things that I

725
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: appreciate but appreciate about you is you don't mince words.

726
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: So the DNC is having a terrible time raising money.

727
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Speaker 1: We have congressional candidates raising gobs of money, we have

728
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: packs raising money, we have I me and I was

729
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: talking to a congressional candidate today who raised two million dollars.

730
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Speaker 1: You know whatever, So you know how to run staff.

731
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: That's one of your many charms. So explain to us

732
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Speaker 1: what the fuck is happening? Why is why is the

733
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Speaker 1: party apparatus not doing well?

734
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Speaker 4: Come on, let me Uh one is the people on

735
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Speaker 4: the other end. You would never usually describe what I

736
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 4: do as charm or charming, but I appreciate that. I

737
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: appreciate the flat I appreciate the flattery. It's a first

738
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 4: for me. So look, money is usually a barometer of

739
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 4: a vote of confidence or not. And I think you

740
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 4: can conclude if they're having the DNC is having problems,

741
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: it's because they don't think the money was well spent.

742
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty four we had we had three billion

743
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 4: dollars spent. We have not allowed to show for two

744
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 4: is you're going to make a break from the past.

745
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 4: You got to offer a roadmap. Here's what I would say.

746
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 4: I'm not the DNC chair, don't want it.

747
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: No, I know you don't want it.

748
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 4: Here, but it's not open. Ken Martin's there.

749
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 3: But here's what I would do.

750
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 4: You got to give people a sense of confidence not

751
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: only the money is going to be well spent, but

752
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 4: here's the blueprint and what I would say. Two points

753
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Speaker 4: that I think are important when one party controls both

754
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 4: sides of Pennsylvania Avenue nineteen ninety four, two thousand and six,

755
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: twenty ten, twenty eighteen, there's a law of physics aid

756
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 4: kick in party out of power, massive turnout. That's exactly

757
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 4: what we've been seeing since a year ago. A little

758
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 4: over fourteen months ago, Independence break two to one for

759
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 4: the party out of power. We've seen that all over

760
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 4: the place. Number three, the party in power, turnout depresses

761
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 4: from the time before seeing that. So the law of

762
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: physics is happening for twenty twenty six. What you want

763
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 4: to do in certain places, as the party chair, is

764
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: prepare for twenty twenty eight. So take your seven key states, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Georgia,

765
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 4: North Carolina, and the blue Wall. I would make sure

766
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 4: that from the school board to the governor's office, every

767
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 4: line is filled because if there's a wave, you've got

768
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 4: to have ten thousand surfboards out there, and that wave

769
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: is going to take people into shore, and that begins

770
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: your farm team, that begins you're organizing, That begins your

771
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 4: contact you have field operations, you know how to drill

772
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: down because that is those seven states. Remember we've now

773
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 4: had let's just go back to twenty twenty six, roughly

774
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 4: four hundred and fifty thousand and seven hundred thousand Americans

775
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: decide the presidency in seven states, So basically it's down

776
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: to two percent in each stick.

777
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 3: You should be using.

778
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: A wave to prepare for what will be a nip

779
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 4: and tuck election. That plan should be presented and people

780
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Speaker 4: will invest in a blueprint and it's incumbent upon their

781
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 4: meeting as you and I talking. That is the DNCI.

782
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 4: They're talking about the schedule of what states go first.

783
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: Fair discussion. But to me, as somebody who kind of

784
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 4: set out a blueprint in two thousand and six that

785
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: nobody you know, that was novel at the time. We're

786
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 4: going to now, we're going to cruit people out of

787
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Speaker 4: the national security pool, not just state centators, not just

788
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 4: state reps. Aim like Mikey Cheryl, Mikey Cheryl and Abigail.

789
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: That was twenty eighteen. But it was the same blueprint

790
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: you look at today. I mean, this was not that blueprint.

791
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 4: But Chris Murphy, Senator for came out of the two

792
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: thousand and six class. So did Chuck Schumer's colleague, Christin

793
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 4: Gilaret came out of the two thousand and sixth class.

794
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: Tim Walls came out of the two thousand and sixth class. Okay,

795
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 4: so what you want to do take your seven states,

796
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: and I'm saying, drill all the way down and maybe

797
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: even below school board and every line. I don't care

798
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 4: about that precinct, I don't care about that district has

799
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 4: a D next to it. Somebody is filling that slot.

800
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 4: And you're gonna build a farm team and then run

801
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 4: a field operation in those seven states. This election doesn't

802
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 4: take away from what you can do in Ohio. US

803
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 4: Senate doesn't take away from it. So I don't want

804
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: to get everybody's room. You didn't mention my state. I don't,

805
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 4: you know? Yeah, we You know, governing is to choose.

806
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: And I used to say this. I used to say

807
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 4: this to President Obama. I said it when I was mayor.

808
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 4: What ends up in the oval office, what ends up

809
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 4: on the fifth floor, and mayor is choices between bad

810
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 4: and worse. Yeah, you've got to have the judgment and

811
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 4: the character and know what the difference is. Yeah, And

812
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: so I would say, yes, we're going to invest in

813
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 4: these other states, We're going to do and perform, but

814
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 4: these ones, these seven are first among all fifty. And

815
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: that's what I would approach us as because you're creating

816
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: a farm team for twenty twenty eight. You're creating a

817
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: farm team for Congress one day. You're creating a farm

818
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 4: team for mayor one day. And that's how you build

819
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 4: a party. You don't show up four weeks before the election.

820
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, are you av me?

821
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Speaker 4: That's what I would do.

822
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Speaker 1: Do you think not releasing an autopsy was a mistake.

823
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 4: I slightly have a yeah, maybe this is the middle

824
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: child a slightly nuanced physician, which is the report comes

825
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 4: is wrapped up bound right when you have Republicans on

826
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: the run on healthcare. I would not have switched the conversation.

827
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: And media in Washington can't handle two conversations at once.

828
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 4: Keep your focus on the Republicans, get them hard on healthcare,

829
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 4: make sure when they're going go on home they're getting

830
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 4: slapped around by their constituents. You now have ACA enrollments.

831
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 4: Over one point four million families lost health care in

832
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 4: America because of the Republicans. I want to drive that

833
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: all the way to the end zone. Now. When it

834
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: first came, this is like three weeks before, two weeks

835
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 4: before New Year's I had have released it December thirty first,

836
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 4: and all us wackos who really care about it, we

837
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 4: know what happened, but we would read it, etc. But

838
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 4: I wouldn't change the story from chasing the Republicans out

839
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 4: of town and having failed America on healthcare. So that's

840
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 4: so timing when you released I would not sit here

841
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 4: and spend money on a report and leave it for

842
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 4: the archives. Now I don't have high hopes that it's

843
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 4: going to change behavioral patterns. I would release it, but

844
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: I would not let it confuse distract us from driving

845
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 4: a health care and affordability.

846
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: Message for my own aedification.

847
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: And also I would say distract the media who are

848
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 4: proven to be well they're one ball there, that we're

849
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 4: all on ball jugglers at one level.

850
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so but for my own edification, because that's

851
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: all I really care about.

852
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 4: What very interesting marketing model.

853
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: Oh it's great, people love it, But what like Biden World,

854
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: I have a whole theory of what went wrong, which

855
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: was they spent two years not letting their guy anywhere

856
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: near anyone, and then two years furious that everyone was

857
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: so mad at them and thought there was something wrong

858
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: with him. Is that right? I mean, what do you

859
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: think went wrong? Because something was really wrong by the

860
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,919
Speaker 1: time he was up for reelection and you could see

861
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Speaker 1: it everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Oval office is incredibly seductive. You don't spend

863
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Speaker 4: forty years of your life like Joe Bien. You get

864
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Speaker 4: there and all of a sudden you're going to say, like,

865
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Speaker 4: well this is like hot, hot, hot, and I'm going

866
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Speaker 4: to walk away from it. Have you ever seen anybody

867
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Speaker 4: walk away from something seductive. Okay, well, and then two,

868
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Speaker 4: having been both President Clinton senior advisor and President Obama

869
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Speaker 4: chief staff, you have to fight against being in and

870
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Speaker 4: that became an insular White House in space, and the

871
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Speaker 4: Oval Office to him and his family was incredibly seductive.

872
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Speaker 4: And this pledge that was made, it was implicit, but

873
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Speaker 4: everybody interpreted, and he let the interpretation ride. In twenty

874
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Speaker 4: twenty was this was going to be a reset after

875
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Speaker 4: four years of Donald Trump. And then I know stage left,

876
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Speaker 4: and he broke that. That's one.

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Speaker 3: Two.

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Speaker 4: This is an observation. I think it gets less attention,

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Speaker 4: but it's mine. He runs in twenty twenty, I'm bringing

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Speaker 4: the country together post Donald Trump, and a correct message

881
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Speaker 4: to answer what country everybody felt was wrong in our

882
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: Trump politics, and the White House walks away from bringing

883
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Speaker 4: the country together, profining unity and ends up trying to

884
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Speaker 4: unify the Democratic Party rather than try to unify the country.

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Speaker 4: And so again a second bait in twitch third is

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Speaker 4: he argues with the American people somewhat where Donald Trump's

887
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Speaker 4: replicating it today, that what you're seeing in front of

888
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Speaker 4: your eyes at the grocery store, at your home, etc.

889
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Speaker 4: Is not true, which is and look, this is a

890
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Speaker 4: thirty year project. What I'm about to say phenomenon. Rather,

891
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Speaker 4: the American dream has become unaffordable and inaccessible, and that

892
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Speaker 4: is unacceptable to us. And Joe Piden Scratt and Joe

893
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Speaker 4: was the byproduct of an era in an American dream

894
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Speaker 4: that a dos an hard scrabble family down on their

895
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Speaker 4: luck and yet their son still goes to school and

896
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Speaker 4: then goes to the highest office. That is true. But

897
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Speaker 4: today we have Lion's Sheriff kids whose parents worked hard,

898
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Speaker 4: played by the rules, safe for their kids' education. Their

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Speaker 4: kids go to college, educating me three to four times

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Speaker 4: what they made when they came out of school, and

901
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Speaker 4: they're living in the basement. They can't afford an apartment,

902
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Speaker 4: let alone get to a house. That contract has busted.

903
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Speaker 4: The average age of first time home ownership is now

904
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Speaker 4: forty a decade ago, it was twenty seven, and then

905
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Speaker 4: so so and not feeling that, which is weird for

906
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Speaker 4: a guy who's the product of that, right, not feeling that,

907
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Speaker 4: not theoretically with a policy paper from your National Economic Console,

908
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Speaker 4: in his is, we would say, in his tishka, not

909
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Speaker 4: in his bones, and not empathize and you can say

910
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Speaker 4: whatevery sday you want to say about President Clinton, but

911
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 4: empathizing with that angst, that anguish. And I do think

912
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Speaker 4: from all my travels around America, you have this big angst,

913
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Speaker 4: this anguish that we're not taking care of our business.

914
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Speaker 4: We know that the world is off its axis. We

915
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Speaker 4: want Washington, which is Disneyland on the Potomac, to get

916
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Speaker 4: right with America. And President Biden, who is a friend,

917
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Speaker 4: should have both seen that. And I'm given also the

918
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Speaker 4: prior to examples that made been faithful to that, and

919
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Speaker 4: he broke that faith. And it's unfortunate because had he

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Speaker 4: done what he said he was going to do, he

921
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Speaker 4: had gotten America. You got without going through all the

922
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Speaker 4: commonness back A lot of stuff done, not all of it.

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Speaker 4: You just don't. You run your race, your hand and

924
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Speaker 4: got the baton. You hopefully leave the race better improved

925
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Speaker 4: than the one when you picked up the baton. And

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Speaker 4: he could have claimed that in many ways.

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Speaker 1: But you have to think when you think about that angs,

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Speaker 1: you must think about people like Elon Moss, who makes

929
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Speaker 1: so much money. I mean, we have I come from,

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of privilege, but I never there

931
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Speaker 1: were never people.

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Speaker 4: Trillion dollar pay packages, right, because this gets to my

933
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Speaker 4: and I don't mean to cut off, but so go

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Speaker 4: ahead and finish. But I really want to say something

935
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Speaker 4: about this. In this whole affordability argument, home ownership, groceries,

936
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Speaker 4: health care costs. You know what, the American people need

937
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Speaker 4: a race. You got a guy get a trillion dollar

938
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Speaker 4: pay package and just take last yesterday's in economic remon

939
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Speaker 4: incomes are stagnant in America. Let alone that you've had

940
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Speaker 4: a year a decline and manufacturing jobs and other things.

941
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Speaker 4: Incomes are stagnant, and you have people with pay packages

942
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Speaker 4: that never are.

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Speaker 1: But isn't this a failure to regulate? I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you have the very very rich making more and more

945
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Speaker 1: and more and you don't have a minimum wage that

946
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Speaker 1: people catch up, I mean a failure.

947
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Speaker 4: Just one thing, changing the tax look our tax code.

948
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Speaker 4: I'll just do you say regulation. I'm not against reforming

949
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Speaker 4: and making changes, but you're not going to deal with

950
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Speaker 4: income inequality, stagnant wages on regulation. If you think you're

951
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Speaker 4: just going to press this and you're wrong, that's not

952
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Speaker 4: how the economics, right.

953
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Speaker 1: So let me just but I just want to I

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Speaker 1: just I'm going to add one thing with you question here,

955
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Speaker 1: because the core is gause. We're interrupters here.

956
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Speaker 4: I want We're at a Jewish dinner table.

957
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Speaker 1: We're both interrupters here. So I just want to add

958
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Speaker 1: one thing here, which is we are a country that regularly,

959
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Speaker 1: you know that we give tax credits to big tech

960
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Speaker 1: companies and not to newspapers. So now newspapers have died

961
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Speaker 1: and Elon Musk has billions of dollars.

962
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Speaker 4: Go okay. I think the way to look at it

963
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Speaker 4: if you look at our history and also look at economics. One,

964
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Speaker 4: when the economics gets off kilter and way too tilted

965
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 4: towards the few and the benefit and the wealthy, the

966
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Speaker 4: government historically from Teddy Roseve and Franklin Rosnet has tilted

967
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 4: the scales to level it out because a free market

968
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Speaker 4: on its own spins out of control. We've seen it

969
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Speaker 4: in the financial crisis, We've seen it in I mean,

970
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Speaker 4: I don't want to go through all the history.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Second, as an example, in the both the Supreme Court

973
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Speaker 4: and this administration has tilted the scales way too much

974
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Speaker 4: towards the well off and the wealthy. The second piece

975
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Speaker 4: is our tax code is about preserving wealth. Not about

976
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Speaker 4: creating wealth and most exemplified, but what the President and

977
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 4: the Republicans did. Look, I'm a product of My dad

978
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 4: came here without a bucket to spit in a window,

979
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 4: to throw it out of pediatric practice, built it up,

980
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 4: his kids do well, et cetera. I have a tax

981
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 4: code that allows me to do stuff for my children.

982
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 4: As now that's not going to happen. You know, you

983
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: beget a schmuk the The tax code is written to

984
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: incentivize a generation of transferring wealth rather than kids going

985
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 4: out and creating wealth. This is insane, and we are

986
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 4: protecting the comfortable and inflicting pain on the uncomfortable. And

987
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 4: from the tax code to your country's investments, we're in

988
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:04,280
Speaker 4: a technological scientific cold war with China. Quantum AI, life sciences, fusion,

989
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 4: just go down the list. We should be investing in

990
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: competing and winning in that area, investing in Americans education capacity,

991
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 4: investing in our energy potential, not just putting our thumb

992
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 4: on Venezuela as oil. But we have a couple of

993
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 4: technologies geo thermal battery storage, et cetera. Then America can

994
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 4: leap frog China. But we're not investing in America. We're

995
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 4: investing a few Americans and that's the problem. We've left

996
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 4: the rest of America and the American people out of

997
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: this competition.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

999
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 4: So I don't mean to be critical, but my one observations,

1000
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 4: I'm not against the regulation, depending how you do it,

1001
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 4: but if you leave the tax code in place, the

1002
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 4: regulation a't gonna solve for fifty kids percent of your

1003
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 4: kids not reading at grade level. Not going to solve

1004
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 4: it if you leave. The fact is that we have

1005
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: a graduate dropout rate that is unacceptable in a modern economy. You,

1006
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 4: in fact, declare war on your greatest universities and research

1007
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: centers that the world around envies. You're not going to

1008
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 4: get out of here. So it's not going to be regulation.

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Speaker 4: It's a tool in the toolbox, I think the toolbox, right.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us.

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00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sure, thanks thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: No moment perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Jesse Cannon my junk fast.

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Speaker 2: So this is one of the more chilling moments of

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Speaker 2: the Trump administration and its aggressions towards journalists. We see

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Speaker 2: a Washington Post reporter having their devices rated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you're going to be very surprised to

1018
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 1: hear this, but the Trump administration. They are not free

1019
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: speech absolutests, despite the fact that we were promised that

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration was filled with people like free speech

1021
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Speaker 1: lover Barry Wise. No, they do not love free speech.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's happening. The FBI raided a home of Washington

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Speaker 1: Post reporter. They did it because she had written something

1024
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Speaker 1: about government contractors quitting the Trump administration. They did it

1025
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Speaker 1: because they wanted her sources. They wanted the information illegally

1026
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Speaker 1: linked from a Pentagon contractor, so they raided the Virginia

1027
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Speaker 1: home of Hannah and Nattinson. Part of it is that

1028
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Speaker 1: they want to intimidate journalists. They want people to be scared.

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Speaker 1: That's part of this. Part of this is also just

1030
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 1: that you know, they don't really care about your civil liberties.

1031
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Speaker 1: They don't really care about due process. They don't really

1032
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: give a fuck about like the rule of law. So

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00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: they have no problem just going into somebody's house. Like

1034
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Speaker 1: even the fact that like nobody would tell you that

1035
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Speaker 1: was okay, right because it's not how many it's supposed

1036
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Speaker 1: to work. But it doesn't matter. And that's where we

1037
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Speaker 1: are right now, is that the Trump administration, Josh doesn't

1038
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Speaker 1: give a fuck they will raid journalists' houses, they will

1039
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Speaker 1: let ice kill people. There is no due process. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, until Republicans and when you listen to

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Speaker 1: this and you go, well, republicans are never stand up. Yeah,

1042
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: that's probably right. But until Republicans do something, until they

1043
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: stand up to this, I don't see a world in

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Speaker 1: which anything good happens here. That's it for this episode

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Speaker 1: of Fast Politics. Tune in every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and

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1047
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