1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Do you have a poll question Pauling before 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: I get to Peter King. Yeah, we're discussing expansion and 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: when you try to expand too big. Which American sports 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: league should expand? And that could be like the NBA 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: adding teams in Seattle and Vegas, or the NFL expanding 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: to London or Mexico or Canada. Which league should expand, 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: whether it be adding teams or moving teams outside the country. Well, 9 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: I'd like to keep everything here in the United States. 10 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm not for global expansion like everybody else does. And 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: you remember when we were talking about the Super Bowl 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: in London that was like fifteen years ago. And then 13 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: let people go, wait a minute, wait, we're not exporting 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: our super Bowl here. Let's bringing Peter King NBC Sports 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: dot Com columnists. How big a story was that though 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: it's had like fifteen years ago, Pete, when the NFL 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: just floated the idea of maybe the Super Bowl in London, Yeah, 18 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: I never really bought it, Dan. I mean, it'd be 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: one thing if some Russian oligarch swooped in and said, 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, uh, three billion dollars if you play a 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: super Bowl in London, then Roger Goodell is saying where 22 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: do I sign? But I just I'd find it hard 23 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: to believe. It would be like you know, playing you know, 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Manchester United playing a big game at at you know, 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium or something. It just seems like it doesn't 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: doesn't belong, and it never did. How much do you 27 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: follow mock drafts? Hardly at all, because I have to 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: do one and I don't want to get stuck in 29 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: sort of the kind of group think that if I 30 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: see twenty eight people put the same player in for 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: a team, you know, then I'm going to say, Okay, 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: well I better put that guy there. I don't. I 33 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: don't like to do it. The only time I really 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: kind of look at mock drafts as and I think 35 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: that the people who do them are really smart and 36 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: well connected. But otherwise I don't really pay much attention 37 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: to them. How do you do your mock draft? Well, today, 38 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: asserted the day that I've been asking around a little bit, 39 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: but it's just too early, and so today is the 40 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: day that I have a list of about fifteen people 41 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: who I call. I don't talk to people on every 42 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: team because I don't most people who work for teams 43 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: are not going to tell you what they are thinking. Okay, 44 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: now they have friends on other teams and they've talked 45 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: to other teams, and they might say, because I always say, 46 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: what do you know that you think I should know? 47 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: You know? Because really, Dan, and I talked to some 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: agents who are very well connected, and then I talked 49 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: to I try to talk to. There's some recently retired 50 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: coaches as well, and personnel people who still this time 51 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: of year treat this is sort of a hobby talking 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: to their friends because you might not be a general 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: manager anymore, but you're still talking to people who are, 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: and you're they're curious about what's going to happen too 55 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: many and some of whom are in the media. So 56 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: it's a weird little dance. But you know, Dan, it's funny. 57 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: Last year I had the best year I've ever had. 58 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: I got eleven first round picks to the team in 59 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: the round. Now, some of them I had with trades 60 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: and everything like that. But and so I always think 61 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: that if I can get like a quarter of the 62 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: picks correct, And everybody said, well, geez, how hard is 63 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: it to tell? Zach Wilson and you know when Trevor Lawrence, well, 64 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: it's not hard, but most of the picks after that 65 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: are you know, there's a degree of difficulty with are 66 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: you settling in on what the Niners are going to 67 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: do at three? No, that's going to be a weekend 68 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: call for me, hopefully with some people who know a 69 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: little something about what the Niners are thinking. As we 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: sit here right now, I'm thinking Mac Jones. But that's 71 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: stale and old and clearly if John Lynch and Kyle 72 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: Shanahan have gone to see Justin Fields and Trey Lance, 73 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: since it was not presumed, but since it was logically 74 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: deemed that Mac Jones as the leader in the clubhouse, 75 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: who knows, maybe they have changed their minds. Now, if 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here right now we're talking, I say, I 77 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: don't think they've changed their minds. But I wouldn't really. 78 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure, and hopefully i'll know 79 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: something by the weekend. How did you react when you 80 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: heard the quotes the comments from Trevor Lawrence and Sports 81 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: Illustrated where we sort of talked about the game's important, 82 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: but not as important. It's not his whole life. I 83 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I think sometimes, Dan, we want guys to 84 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: everybody to have the attitude of Peyton Manning that before 85 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: he goes to bed at night, he will send I 86 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: mean he did this late in his career in Denver. 87 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure he did it in in D two, but 88 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: late before he'd go to bed at night, he would 89 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: send some voice notes on his phone to Adam Gay, 90 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: so at the time was his offensive coordinator. Gay saved 91 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: him all it's in They're like, you know whatever, forty 92 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: five seconds Hey, on this play that we're planning to 93 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: run third quarter, I think we ought to put this 94 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: guy into motion left to right rather than right to left. 95 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,679 Speaker 1: And blah blah blah blah blah. And I'm not saying 96 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence is going to have some of 97 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: those traits. Also in that story, he said, I told 98 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: my high school coach I wanted to be the best 99 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: to ever do it. So I don't know, Dan, I 100 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: guess I look at it and say until I hear 101 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: from people who had been close to Trevor Lawrence at 102 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Clemson who have kind of a raised eyebrow and said, man, 103 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's he's a He's not a worker 104 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: beer he's not a hard worker. We've never heard that, 105 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: so it really didn't bother me all that much. The 106 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: only reason why it I took notice of it was 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: nobody ever thought that Andrew Luck was going to walk 108 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: away before the age of thirty. And yeah, I know 109 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: he had injuries, but they he had moved past that. 110 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: He was sacked eighteen times the previous season, they had 111 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 1: a good offensive line, they were starting to round into 112 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: a playoff caliber team, and he had other interest and 113 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: I think, you know, you get married, you have a child. 114 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: He just walked away. So that's the only reason why 115 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: I took a note of what Trevor said is you know, 116 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: he was the guy who couldn't miss. He was the 117 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: next John Elway, and he walked away. I think you're right, Dan, 118 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: But I also think that he would not have walked 119 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: away if every day of his life he wasn't in pain. 120 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: And Andrew Luck could not get over these injuries that 121 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: he had multiple injuries, and he just never felt right 122 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: and he said, why do I need this? I don't 123 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: need this. And I don't think it had all that 124 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: much to do with the money. I know him a 125 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: little bit. He's definitely not a money guy, and it's 126 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: also why he really hasn't had a lot of thoughts 127 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: about coming back. I do think he loved football, but 128 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: I think football didn't love him back, or didn't love 129 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: his body back. And I think it was a lot 130 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: more having to do with the pain and discomfort that 131 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: he felt three hundred and sixty five days a year, 132 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: rather than some dimunition of his love of football. Has 133 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 1: anybody talked to Andrew Luck in depth? The Colts talked 134 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: to him for they made the Carson Wentz trade. They 135 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: did talk about coming back. Well, they talked to him 136 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: just to say, hey, what's what's your story? What you know? 137 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: Do you and clearly you know nothing has come out 138 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: about what exactly was said, but I think he had 139 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: to leave them with this impression that I'm not playing football. 140 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: Talking to Peter King, NBC Sports dot Com columnists, Football 141 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: Morning in America must read for everybody. The team that 142 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: you're most curious about in eight days is who the 143 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons. I mean, we know the forty nine ers 144 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: are going to take a quarterback, we just don't know 145 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: which one. The Falcons I think are really interesting because 146 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: you have everybody thinks the owner is making this pick, 147 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: and I can tell you that that's a lie. The 148 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: owner is not making the pick. The owner doesn't hire 149 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: a new general manager, a new head coach, and the 150 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: first momentous decision they could make that he jumps the 151 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,119 Speaker 1: line and says, I want you to take a quarterback. 152 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: Now he's an owner of a team, he wants to 153 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: make sure he has quarterback certainty, you know, for the 154 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: next fifteen years. And they might take a quarterback. But 155 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,319 Speaker 1: the only way I was told this categorically, the only 156 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: way that they're going to take a quarterback is if 157 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: they are absolutely all in that he's going to be 158 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: a great player. Because Dan, I think you could look 159 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: at because they're going to have to sign Matt Ryan 160 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: to a new deal obviously after the next couple of years. 161 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: This is his age thirty six season this year. He 162 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: told me a couple of years ago he wanted to 163 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: play into his forties, just like Tom Brady. So unless 164 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: you want to unless you either don't think that he's 165 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: the guy to lead you to the super Bowl, or 166 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: you don't want to have a guy, you know, forty 167 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: million on your capture on average for the next say 168 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: five years, you can save on average probably about thirty 169 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: million bucks a year. Once you get rid of Matt Ryan. 170 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: By having a quarterback on his rookie contract, it allows 171 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: you to do so much more. But my feeling is 172 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: that they have so many choices. They could go quarterback, 173 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: they could go generational tight end, or they could trade down. 174 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: And I'm fascinated by the Falcons right now. What are 175 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and his son Stephen doing by this outward 176 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: fawning over Kyle Pitts there they're at number ten? Is 177 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: it just they just wanted they like to talk or like, 178 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell you what I truly like, but I'm 179 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: trying to understand their logic if there is logic here. 180 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: In two sixteen, when they drafted Ezekiel Elliott in the 181 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: first round and they drafted Dak Prescott in the fourth round, 182 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, I had access to their to their draft 183 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: room that weekend, and the one thing I learned is 184 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: that Jerry Jones has the ability to play the Trump card. Okay, 185 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: he desperately wanted Paxton Lynch that year, desperately, and Stephen 186 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: Jones was on the phone for seventy minutes before Paxton 187 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: Lynch ended up going to the Denver Broncos in a trade, 188 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones was just despondent at missing it. And 189 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: so anybody who says, ah, Jerry is going to tell him, Hey, 190 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: we're going up and getting Kyle Pitts. I'm not saying 191 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: they're not going up to get Kyle Pitts. But the 192 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: price to get Kyle Pitts is that number one pick 193 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: plus next year's one. All but certainly so, if you're 194 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and you have great weaponry on offense, 195 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: do you want to trade your next two ones in 196 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: order to draft a tight end. I mean, I just 197 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: can't see it. They're better off sitting there and getting 198 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: attack with their offensive line kind of being a little 199 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: bit in tatters. Now they need to protect Dak Prescott. 200 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: If I were them, might sit there and take Rashawn 201 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: Slater if you had to bet, and what the Patriots 202 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: were going to do? Now, Dan, I give up. You 203 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: know I wrote the other day that Bill Belichick has 204 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: hauntchowed twenty five drafts. He's never picked a quarterback higher 205 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: than number sixty two. How amazing is that. Not only 206 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: is he never picked a quarterback in the first round, 207 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: he never picked a quarterback till the end. The highest 208 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: he ever picked one was at the end of the 209 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: second round, So that would seem to tell you, well, 210 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: they're not taking a quarterback. Well, did you every think 211 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: they were going to spend eight jillion dollars on free agents? 212 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,439 Speaker 1: I didn't, and they did it this year. So I 213 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: think all bets are off with the Patriots. I will 214 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: not be surprised to see them trade up to I 215 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: don't know, seven, eight, ten whatever to pick whatever quarterback 216 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: is on the board, or I wouldn't be surprised if 217 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: they just sat where they were and then in the 218 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: second round took Kyle's trask. Those kind of things wouldn't 219 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: surprise me. You can join Peter NFL Network Steve Wish, 220 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: as well as ES fans Mike Tanenbaum and Matthew Barry 221 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: tomorrow night at eight Eastern. 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Great 240 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: to talk to you, and we'll talk to you soon. 241 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Dan. Thanks for listening to The 242 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 243 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to 244 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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Dan Can I just 253 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: say the power of the Dan Patrick Show and I 254 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: can say, if you get me on every day this week, 255 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: then we can make some progress. And we've already done it. 256 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: It's gone. Well. The recap is that this time, literally 257 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: yesterday I was satins for a chair talking to you 258 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: and it looked like the end of football in Europe 259 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: as we nubits in terms of competitive edge competition with 260 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: the Big six in England breaking away and joining the 261 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: likes of AC Milan into Milan, uvent As, Real Madrid, 262 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: Barcelona creating this new European Super League. However, when we 263 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: were talking yesterday, I explained to you about the absolute 264 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: uproar and the backlash from everybody, all the fans, from 265 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: everybody involved in the sport. I could not find and 266 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: I searched for one person who thought that this was 267 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: a good idea and would you believe it? I think 268 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: I mentioned on the yes say that I have been 269 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: told that Chelsea and Manchester City were starting to wobble. 270 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: That was twenty four hours ago and they were the 271 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: first two. I think City officially were the first club 272 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: to say we made a mistake, we're out. And then 273 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: it was like a deck of cards and all six 274 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: English clubs, solely but surely, throughout the course of yesterday 275 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: all issued statements and said, oh, yeah, mistake, we're actually 276 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: thinking it was not the best idea. We're not going 277 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: to be in the European Superleague. We're out and it's 278 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: now down to two clubs, Real Madrides. We just hanging 279 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: on in there for that money and I'm fine with that. 280 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: They get to play for the championship every year. It's 281 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: a home and away schedule. It's not confusing at all. 282 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: Now do you see other teams in the Premier League 283 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: that the six have bowed out? Is there anybody else 284 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: that might step up? Or is this done? Do you 285 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: think when it comes to the Premier League? I think 286 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: it's done, Dan, It's done because as much as I 287 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: adore the other fourteen clubs, and one of my clubs 288 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: is one of those fourteens, They are not quite the 289 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: ratings drive, but they are not the big big boys. 290 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: I mean Leicester City West Hand fans will be shouting 291 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: at their televisions at the moments or at their radio. 292 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: So if I say that because they're doing really well 293 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: this season, but the traditional Big six, it was really 294 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: about those. There isn't really a European super League for 295 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: the likes of Burnley and West Brom and Crystal Palace. 296 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: There just isn't. So I think it's said, it's over, 297 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: it's done. The big question down though, now, is it 298 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: was so damaging in that short period of time to reputations, 299 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: to integrity, to honesty within the game. How do we 300 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: stop this ever happening again and ever getting so close 301 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: to the edge? Who applied the pressure that led to this? 302 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: I think it's the fans. I think a combination of 303 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: the fans and the media. But I'm going to give 304 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: the credit to the fans because the fans created the 305 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: Ferrari which the media then reported on and plenty of 306 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: high profile figures within the game as well. Gary Neville, 307 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: a former Manchester United player, a hugely high profile in 308 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: the UK. On British television, he went very very strong 309 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: very very early, and he kind of began it in 310 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: a way. But the fans, it was a fan. They 311 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: turned up outside the Chelsea game last night with banners 312 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: saying please pull out. They turned up at the Liverpool game. 313 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: They drove from Liverpool down to Leeds on Monday to 314 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: protest at their own club. And it wasn't even the 315 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: fans of the other fourteen clubs who would have been 316 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: also really badly affected by this. It was the fans 317 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: of the clubs themselves, and I think that's key. I 318 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: don't think the owners realize there but their own fans. 319 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: They probably knew everybody else would be mad at them. 320 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they realize their own fans. They don't 321 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: want to go and play Real Madrid every week. They 322 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: want to play Stoke City, they want to play Burnley 323 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: Football Club. That's the essence of English football. So for me, 324 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: the fans have won the day. And how many times 325 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: can we say that in sport? Not many times. I 326 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: understand the idea of this, so I understand the money 327 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: and it's all about the money, but it felt like 328 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: it was too drastic, like they they were trying to 329 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: do this in a clandestine way late night Sunday night 330 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: and you sort of leak this out and then you go, 331 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: wait a minute, and it almost feels like it was 332 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: too far down the road for somebody or someones to 333 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: object to. But I give I give the fan base 334 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: credit and those who came to their senses here. And 335 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't want these owners who say, hey, we did 336 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: the right thing, you know, we pulled out. No, you 337 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: were going to do the wrong thing, you were going 338 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: to do this. I'm not going to give you credit 339 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: for something like this. Oh damn, don't you worry. The 340 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: English media will not allow then forget what they did. 341 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: I can promise you that I've read enough articles already 342 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: saying let's just hold off on the credit for the owners. 343 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: Let's remember what they almost did a clandest sign way 344 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: they did it, as you say, I think that's what 345 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: hurts so many people within the game because it came 346 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. It was all done totally secretly, and 347 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: that's the damage that now has to be repaired, because 348 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: let's now remember down these six are now kind of 349 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: coming back to the Premier League, their tails between their legs, saying, oh, 350 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: we made a mistake. Can we play? Can we just play? 351 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: Like you're playing before. Can we just be friends like 352 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: we were before? And how the fans are going to 353 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: react to those clubs, how other chairman and other owners 354 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: are going to react. A huge amount of damage has 355 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: been done. The trust has been lost. That has to 356 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: be rebuilt, and that had to be rebuilt by the 357 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: owners of those six clubs and nobody else. Okay, so 358 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: now I can move on to some other things in 359 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: the UK like Harry and the Queen Mom and uh, 360 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: you know Prince Witton, Like, do you want me to 361 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: go there? Like I can? I can start there. You 362 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: know Brexit? What do you want me to do? Rebecca? 363 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I am your English transpondent. So I'm very 364 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: much open for any subject matter with regarding you. Tell 365 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: me what you'd like to talk about and I'll give you. 366 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: You know what I did think about this is strange 367 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: when I first heard what was happening with the Super League, 368 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: the person I thought of, the one person I thought 369 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: of when they were talking about this, and then the 370 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: fallout when they all collapsed. Can you can you think 371 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: of the one person that I would have that I 372 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: would have in my weird sixth sense of humor, this 373 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: is who I thought of ted Lasso. I thought, you 374 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: got you know, season two of ted Lasso coming up, 375 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: and I thought, how would ted Lasso deal with this? 376 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: Because he's always in a good mood, and I wonder 377 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: what he would think of the Super League. I think, 378 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: to be honest, I will be surprised if ted Lasso 379 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: how being the one that's orchestrated this giant crumble because 380 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 1: I feel that ted Lasso can heal the walls. And 381 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: I think you agree with me with that. Dan what 382 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: a man, What a series. And we had him on 383 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the show years ago when it all started, and Jason's 384 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: a dacas. I mean, the guy is an absolute genius. 385 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: That show is a show which in this very time, 386 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: right now, twenty twenty twenty one, we needed. Yes. When 387 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: the when season one was over, I was sad. I 388 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: don't know the last time I've been sad when a 389 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: season and you know, when you're watching eight to ten 390 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: episodes because he's so positive, it was so much fun. 391 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: It allowed people who are you know, dipping their toes 392 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: into soccer because we're sort of like ted Lasso in 393 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: some ways. You know, some of us we're like, uh, 394 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, what's off sides no, seriously, like what ifs 395 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: off side? Help me on here? And so I'm I'm 396 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: anxious in July for ted Lasso to come back. I 397 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: know he is the positive in the world that we need, 398 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: and I think that he is the antidote to everything 399 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: right now. That's hotly why it seems so popular, because 400 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: I agree it was just astapism and good prevailed awfully, 401 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 1: it doesn't Ted Lasso, and that's all we all have 402 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: to hang on to in life. Right I was worried 403 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: about you yesterday. I was I had not seen you 404 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: like that, and and it was I could tell, like 405 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: it it hurt. You know, you weren't unhinged, but you were. 406 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, the passion was there. And we're supposed to 407 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: compartmentalize when they're when we're on the air, were posted, 408 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: you know, not show our emotions. And it was like 409 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: I could tell that it hits you heard yesterday it did, Dan, 410 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: And I think as well. I've been in this, this 411 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: world for only twenty years, this industry, and I grew 412 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: up watching the game. It means a huge amount to me, 413 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: and it's a huge amount to every football fan out there. 414 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: It's a family thing, it's a I can say it's 415 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: like a religious thing. Really football is like that, and 416 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: it's my career and it's my it's my whole life really, 417 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: and that felt on the threat it today. Everything that 418 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: I loved about my life separately from my family felt 419 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: like could all change. And I think we've had enough 420 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: of that, and we since March twenty twenty, when what 421 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: we knew of life suddenly changed, and I don't want 422 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: any more change. So I tell you, we popped some 423 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: champagne last night, my husband and I, and we raised 424 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: the glass of good good Do you love Okay? In 425 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: order you love your son Teddy? Right? And then where's 426 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: the Premier League? And then where's your husband's just gone out? 427 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: I can definitely tell you that the pronome it's a 428 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: huge part of my life and it's and I would 429 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: say the same man. Actually, you know, most football fans 430 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: would say that their their club winning a trophy is 431 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: up there on the same day as their birth of 432 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: their first child. I mean, I actually know one guy 433 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: who works in the game who is very proud of 434 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: the fact that he has never been at the both 435 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: of any of his children because and he has a 436 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: few children, because he's always been at a football match 437 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: on the day that they've been born. He's very proud 438 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: of that. So that is how deep this game runs 439 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: in England. Down I'm probably not going to talk to 440 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Well okay, still, I mean, unless something happens, 441 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm probably not going to have Todd reach out to you. Okay. 442 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I get it. So you just bring me 443 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: into the big story and the only out for another year. 444 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta bring in. I gotta bring in 445 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: some royals tomorrow. Like I got other things to worry about. 446 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: I fixed this now I move on. Oh. The Dan 447 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: Patrick Show just moved been through the world fixing massive problems, 448 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: just in Europe, Just in Europe. Thank you, Rebecca. That's 449 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: Rebecca Lo, a presenter NBC Sports with the Premier League 450 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: coverage PrePost Premier League Live. Thanks for listening to The 451 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 452 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine 453 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and you can find us 454 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 455 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. It's a great series. I'm in 456 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: season two. It's called City on a Hill. It airs 457 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Sundays on Showtime at nine eastern nine Pacific. Kevin Bacon 458 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: the Great Actor. He plays a detective Jackie Raw. Jackie 459 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: f and Raw and Kevin Bacon joins us on the program. 460 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: How would you describe your character? Is Jackie a good 461 00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: guy or a bad guy? Well, Jackie is a complicated guy. 462 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: I um, you know, I tend to not really put 463 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: my characters into bad or good because I've done so 464 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: many horrible things as as an actor. I mean, in 465 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: the parts that I've played, you know, inexcusable kinds of things. 466 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: But while I'm playing these people, I have to sort 467 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: of stay in their shoes. So I really feel like 468 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: it's up to the audience to make their their decisions 469 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: about whether or not they like him or I mean, 470 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: let's put it this way, if somebody finds him to 471 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: be a good guy, then that's on you. I don't think. 472 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty tough to explain. But he's also 473 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: you know, complicated. I Mean, one of the interesting things 474 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: about Jackie is that he has a very very difficult upbringing, 475 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: which is going to become clearer and clearer this season. 476 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: And but he you know, gets himself into school, he 477 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: comes from the streets, comes from nothing, you know, and 478 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: and gets incredibly well educated. So there's this kind of 479 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: juxtaposition between being very very streetwise but also very very 480 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: well read and able to just kind of pull up 481 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: things out of his hard drive historically whether they're true 482 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: or not. You know, it's it's a fascinating side to him. 483 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, a lot of quotes from him, But 484 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: do you does your wife ever look at you and 485 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: say like, I didn't know that was inside you. Wow, 486 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: that's a really good question. I think that after thirty 487 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: two years, I don't think I've ever done anything that's 488 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: sort of like she's seen me do it in a 489 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: film and it kind of scares her or kind of 490 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: puts her off from me because she's an actor too, 491 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: so she knows that these are this is our job 492 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: to make it look like it's believable. But the most 493 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: exciting thing for me, and the greatest joy that I 494 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: would have, is to show her a scene and have 495 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: her say, Okay, that surprised me in terms of that 496 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: choice that you made there. Because she knows all my tricks, 497 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: She's seen everything I've done, she knows all my you know, 498 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: so if I can if I can kind of like 499 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: show a new quality to her, and she said, that's 500 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: a thrill for me. Yeah, but Sleepers is pretty dark stuff. 501 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, it's horrible. I've done, Like I said, 502 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I've just done just the worst things. You know, 503 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: when I became an actor, I didn't want to be 504 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: just the boy next door. And you know, physically, I 505 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: think when I was just starting out, that was the 506 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: way people would sort of put me in that category, right, 507 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and and so I had to fight against that. 508 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: And I think part of that fight for me was 509 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: being able to um go down some dark roads in 510 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: terms of the characters that I played. But then you 511 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: have a movie like Footloose. So you have foot Loose early, 512 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: so we see you as boy that guy, he's the 513 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: energetic guy that he's doing the do gooder. And I 514 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: think because of that, when you start to do the 515 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: dark stuff, it's like, well wait a minute here, Yeah, 516 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean after foot Loose, people really wanted me. Look, 517 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: Hollywood has very little imagination when it comes to casting. 518 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: You know, most people end up doing kind of the 519 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: same thing, right, I mean, you are even some of 520 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: our great actors, you know, they they they are the 521 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: funny guy or the nerding one, or the romantic dude 522 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: or the gangster or you know, whatever it is. You 523 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: can try to kind of veer off to the side 524 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: every once in a while, but Hollywood really wants you 525 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: to kind of stay in that, and so does the audience, 526 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: frankly in a way. So after foot Loose, you know, 527 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: what people wanted me to do? Was that again or 528 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: some sort of ver from that? And I tried, you know, 529 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: a couple of times, but it didn't really feel. It 530 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,479 Speaker 1: didn't feel right to me, not to who I went 531 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: amer or what I wanted to be as an actor. 532 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: Were you offered dirty dancing? Uh? No, I don't think 533 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: I was. No. Was that after foot Loose? I said? 534 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: Was I'm just thinking of all that? You know, you 535 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: didn't get Saturday Night Fever? No, I didn't know. That's true. 536 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: That's true. But if you look the next here's here's 537 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: a little tidbit. The next movie that I did after 538 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Footloose was called Quicksilver, and I played a bike messenger. 539 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: And I wanted to do the movie because it was 540 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: pitched to me as this sort of like, you know, 541 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: kind of gritty New York was supposed to take place 542 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 1: in New York, New York thing about a guy who 543 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: loses money on Wall Street he becomes you know, it 544 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: was like a street Wise. It was the director kept 545 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: saying to me, I just love Martin Scorsese. I just 546 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: love Martin Scorsese. I want to make mean streets right. 547 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: It's not what they had in mind at all. And 548 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: when you went up seeing the movie, I actually have 549 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: a a dancing what do you call it? A pot 550 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: um with a ballerina where I'm I'm dancing on a bike. 551 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm doing like tricks. I had to learn to do 552 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: stunts on a on a stunt cycle and she's dancing 553 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: around me. So basically they were like, we're taking the 554 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: foot loose kid and we're putting them in the Spike 555 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: movie where it has to be a bike dancing number 556 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: and you should check it out of my hilarius. Actually, 557 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, you're from Philly, but you 558 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: have to have a Boston accent um. The difference between 559 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: those two oh huge huge. I mean, you know accents um, 560 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: if you look at accents on the on the East Coast, 561 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: you know they kind of slide in a way. And 562 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: Boston is in this weird way. I mean, for I 563 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: think the the sun. The sound in Philly is a 564 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: really specific sound. You know. You go, you you flatten 565 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: your ais and you say, I'm going to get a coke, 566 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, and that's the most specific sound. In Boston, 567 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: totally different. Okay, think of what it is now, totally 568 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: different sound. And then it kind of slides down through 569 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: New York. When you hear it change and after it 570 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: moves out of Philadelphia, it becomes more extremely Get to Baltimore, 571 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, and you're like, everyone's talking like this in Baltimore, 572 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: even more extreme, and then it sort of slides into 573 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: a Virginia acc and then sort of morphs into a 574 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: Southern accent. It's a really fascinating thing to me. I 575 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: hope that we never I find accents to be like 576 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: national treasures, and I hope that we never lose it. 577 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 1: I've ended up in Boston so many times, between Black 578 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: Mass and Patriots Day and RIPD and Mystic River, and 579 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: so I've been asked to be a Bostonian. I've only 580 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: been asked to be a Philadelphian once, which was a 581 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: film called The Woodsman. And I would love to be 582 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: able to you know, use my own accent in a film. 583 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: My daughter is actually doing a thing called Mayor of 584 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: East Easton Now, which is on HBO Max, And she 585 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: like came to me asking me about I kept calling 586 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: me saying, Dad, how would I say? This wasn't your 587 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: character's name Jimmy Dolan. Jimmy Dolan. Yeah, and you're you're 588 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: a Knicks fan. Yeah, yeah, you know what I gotta 589 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: tell you, I don't think I've ever really even made 590 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: that connection. What I don't even know if I've ever 591 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: made that connect. I mean, somebody must have mentioned that 592 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: to me before. But but yeah, that is kind of 593 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: where Nicks six in a row, right the other playing 594 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: well yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's cool. It's it's super cool. 595 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: By the way, we're talking to Kevin Bacon City on 596 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: a Hill Air Sundays on Showtime at nine Eastern and Pacific. 597 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: How would you rate your basketball game? By the way, terrible? 598 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely terrible. I mean, I we played a little bit 599 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: of basketball. There was one house in my neighborhood that 600 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: had a had a rim on on this little street. 601 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: But I really and one of the things about it though, 602 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: is like you know, Philadelphia has tiny, tiny little streets 603 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: and and and they have these um uh these posts, 604 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: these metal posts that have been there for years, I 605 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: think to keep people from parking on the on the things. 606 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: So so you'd come up and you'd you know, go 607 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: up for a layup and hit the post with your 608 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: not I mean it was. It was just absolutely terrible. 609 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 1: So we were playing more sort of like football or 610 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: half ball or or you know, something like that. And 611 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: first off, I also want to say that I'm really 612 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: not a natural athlete. Um, I just am not a 613 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,479 Speaker 1: good ball player. Um, but who trained you? So I 614 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: was trained for the for the air up there? Um well, 615 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: the first thing that I did was, uh, went and 616 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 1: visited Steve Lavin because I was playing a coach and 617 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: Steve was, you know, kind of helpful. I guess he 618 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: was an assistant coaching at UCLA. I think at that 619 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: time maybe you're I think, um, and you know, so 620 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: I got a chance to kind of see what that 621 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: side of it was. And then I went and started, um, 622 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, using a gym. And then eventually Bob mculdo 623 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: became my coach, and Bob came to Africa with us, 624 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: and McAdoo once said that the hardest thing he ever 625 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: had to do in his career was making me look 626 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: like a basketball player, which is one of my favorite clothes. 627 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: But he was a great guy. And one of my 628 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: favorite moments was they had to get some shots of 629 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, just cutaways of a basket of a ball 630 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: going through a basket, and he just stands like at 631 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: the top of the key and just starts throwing them 632 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: in one after another, his feet never leaving the ground. 633 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: I guess it was a jump shot. And uh, and 634 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: they're just going. I mean I watched I must have 635 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: been sixty balls going or something like that. It was 636 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: just crazy and the and the camera just kept rolling. 637 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know why they needed so many of them, 638 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: because it was a great moment. Well, he was such 639 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: a great outside shooter. He had a unique shot, unique 640 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: release to it. But did you think that you were 641 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: going to somehow pick up on how he was shooting 642 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: that would help your game. Ah, he could have dreamed, 643 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: but it wasn't going to happen. Uh, it's great to 644 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: hear from you. I love the series. Um, did you 645 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: know that all this was in Friday Night Lights? First? 646 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So he was the quarterback in 647 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: New Orleans who is transferring in and uh, you guys, 648 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: you guys got something going on there. It's a great 649 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: rivalry between you two. I love working with Alvis. He's 650 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: such a he's such a great great man and such 651 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: a great actor. And when I get when I get 652 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: a scene, he was he was actually cast before I 653 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: was in City on a Hill and um, so when 654 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: I when we walked on the set, I think our 655 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,959 Speaker 1: first scene, if I remember correctly, was the scene where 656 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: we meet for the first time. I didn't know. I 657 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: didn't watch Friday Night Lights. I have to go back 658 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: someday because everyone loves it, but I just never It 659 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: just wasn't a show that was on my radar. Um, 660 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: and you know, we we did one take and I 661 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, this is gonna be great. I'm gonna 662 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: love I'm gonna love getting in the ring with this 663 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: guy because he's so present and he's so um. You know, 664 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: you you throw something at him and he throws it 665 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: back and and and it's when I get as when 666 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: I get a script, if there's a scene between the 667 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 1: two of us, um, it's I know, it's golden. How 668 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: many cigarettes do you smoke an episode? Yeah? A lot? 669 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: Although I can tell you that's since once we and 670 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,879 Speaker 1: I don't think I will ever anymore. I'll tell you why, 671 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: because when there are big by the way, when we 672 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: shut down, after we shut down after the first two 673 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: episodes and when we started back up, the protocols were 674 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: no smoke on the set at all. It was something 675 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: having to do with the COVID particles being able to 676 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 1: hang on to smoke earlier. Like you know, a lot 677 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: of times on films you use what we call atmosphere, 678 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: which is you know, kind of a smokey kind of 679 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: look to get the light shining through and stuff like that, 680 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: or if you're at a bar and it's supposed to 681 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: be cigarettes. But we weren't allowed to smoke, and I 682 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,720 Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to smoke, so it was all a digital 683 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: effect from this second episode on. So I don't think 684 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: I'll ever have to smoke again. Oh now you ruined 685 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: it for me. So you know, I thought you were 686 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: smoking these heaters and I was going, God, your wife 687 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: has to be yelling at you. No, no, no no, it's 688 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: not good. It's not good. I mean, they are horrible, 689 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 1: but I don't ever think they're you know who knows. Yeah, uh, well, 690 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: congrats on the series and great to talk to you again. Kevin, 691 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. I'm so happy always to 692 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: talk to you. Man. It's it's it's it's great, even 693 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: even in this situation. Thank you, bun. All right, take care. 694 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: That's Kevin Bacon. Be sure to catch the live edition 695 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern 696 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app.