WEBVTT - #110 - Capella Grey 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.960 Yo Boulet Cavs show special guests in here. A lot 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:04.800 of people are saying he has the song of the summer. 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:11.239 Mm hmm, Capella Gray. If you're in New York, it's 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:13.880 definitely the song of the summer, you know. Crazy Mahomie Uh. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:16.560 Shout out to Bodega Fleet. He told me about your 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.520 record pretty early and then he was like, Yo, this 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.000 is the one, and then like I feel like a 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:25.920 month later it finally got over here and I was like, Okay, 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.600 what was like for you with this record? When what 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:31.520 was the moment where you realized this was like a 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.040 real thing? Went to People from out of state, from 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.400 out of town started you know what I'm saying, tapping in, 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:42.000 tagging me and ship. I was like, you're cursing everything. Yeah. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.280 As soon as all the other states started tapping in 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:46.840 and stuff, I was like, yeah, we're out of here. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:50.400 And did you originally drop this independently? So you went 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.080 from independent to sign and obviously off this record, but 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.160 like what what? Uh? It was going crazy in the 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:58.440 city for the months before I got months before I 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:00.760 got picked up all over the country on Stupid. It 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.880 was number one on Jazam nationwide before way before the deal, 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.319 before the deal, before the deal, number one on Hizam 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:11.400 number one. So it starts getting obviously heats up in 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:16.560 the club first, no outside TikTok and nah, so like 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.560 I don't know, I don't make songs for TikTok. No, 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.840 I'm saying it's not a TikTok record. But you know, bro, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.000 there's no like no one knows what a TikTok song 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:25.800 is anymore. There's ship that goes wild that you would 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.560 never even know. That's a fact. I'm not gonna lie. 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:32.319 So but when Vietnam with this song, it was it 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:33.959 was just real organic. It was in the streets first, 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.480 like people were just playing outside the streets in New 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.280 York on they party. It's a little different, like you know, 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.280 sometimes we'll be in the club and stuff. Sometimes it's 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.759 just outside barbecues and stuff like that, like just wordy 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.640 of out just moving around the city. And then the 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.400 clubs picked it up and then it was over. It 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:51.600 was a rap and the Forrest Radio we was on 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.360 the radio rotation before the deal or anything like that. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.240 It was just who was the first DJ to play 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:58.600 your song on the radio? The first DJ to play 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.680 it was DJ will probably want for sure, and then 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.720 it was not this someone, and then everybody else picked up. Wow, 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:11.079 that's big man. Congrats Bro. It's though too because it's 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.959 like a very it's like a national or a very 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.239 worldwide sounding record. We think in New York, you know 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:18.800 what I'm saying. Sometimes she comes out of New York 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:20.880 and it's like, this shit is cool. Same thing with La. 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:22.480 There'll be some shit that's popping out here, but we'll 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.520 be like, man, this shit is cool for La. Or 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:25.800 in New York. You go to New York and hear 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:26.880 some shit in the club, he be like, man, this 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.919 shit is fied, but it's probably not gonna get out 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.200 of this area. But your shit is like, Bro's got 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.400 that international sound or something like that. Yeah, I like 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.200 this like that, even though because I didn't like It's 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.720 not like I was on purpose trying to create some 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.520 kind of crazy international sound. I feel like the sound 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.079 of New York is, especially when we do it the 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.079 right way, it's a it's appealing enough, so it was 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.840 gonna go international, you know what I'm saying. You know facts, man, 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.239 you're from the Bronx, right, it's a uptown, uptown baby 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:58.720 shout out to the Bronx. Hey man, Uh, the Bronx 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:00.880 is like one of those burrows doesn't get enough love. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.080 All things considered. It to where hip hop was birthed. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.960 It is literally where hip hop started. Fact, you know, 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:09.800 I think like obviously some of the greatest rivers of 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:11.320 all time come out to bron shot out the punch 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:15.760 out to karras One, Yeah, Joey Crack. But like I 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.280 feel like lately, like you know, ron SUNO's doing this 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:22.320 thing you do, hey boogies. Of course, man shouts to 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:24.679 high Bridge. But like in general, do you feel like 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.880 the Bronx has somehow become like the most slept on 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:30.360 brown New York easily? Like, and it's weird because it's 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.799 where hip hop started. Yeah, but you know, Brooklyn was 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.880 making noise for a while, queens outside, you know what 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:40.040 I'm saying. Harlem is definitely Harlem is always going Harlem. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.040 I feel like the Bronx just slept on for a while. 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.000 But I feel like we got it. It's it's back, 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:46.520 We're back. I'm not gonna lie the spotlight. We always 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:48.800 had the vibe. We just need a spotlight now you 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.040 got it? Yeah, Yeah, definitely a great energy uptown right now? 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:56.400 Are you? I don't know, this is probably after your generation, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.640 but are you gonna? I mean, kress One's got a 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.080 verses with Big Daddy Kane mm hmm. And Kris Won 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:03.640 a lot of people just thinks he's the greatest of 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.720 all time. He's from the Bronx. You know what I'm saying, Like, 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.280 you're gonna, You're gonna, You're gonna. Are you? Are you 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:08.880 looking forward to that versus or is that some ship 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:12.160 where you're like this just for the coach? I am, yeah, man, 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.880 So I'm definitely. I make sure I'm dead too. You 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:17.400 know what I'm saying, Like, I'm really a fan of like, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.120 so you're gonna be there. I have to be there. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.880 Hey man, were you, like, did you ever listen to 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:24.960 carras one like trying to catch up on his older ship. 0:04:25.760 --> 0:04:27.479 So I have to like go back and do more 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.560 research because of this whole versus thing. It wou presented 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:31.960 the opportunity for me to go back and do my 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.000 research and all that stuff like that. So yeah, Yo, 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.320 Cares held it down for the whole borough. Yeah he was. 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:41.640 He was actually versus mc sean man. Wow, Queen's Bridge. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.679 It was what was Queen's Bridge versus the Bronx. Shout 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.800 out to Kress now that just should be forty year 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.360 olds and up and hip hop are very excited. I'm 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:52.520 not quite there. I'm thirty four, and I know all 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.640 my like Brian Samson's old asses excited. I'm sure Neil 0:04:55.720 --> 0:05:03.160 was excited. He's like, hell yeah, add krs we out here, yo. 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.400 I'm sure that like hell of people were trying to 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:08.680 probably approach you. Did anyone approach you to do the remix? 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.160 I'm not talk about the actual like Chris Brown or 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:12.040 popcor but where there's like people who hit you trying 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.839 to do a remix? Yeah, hell yeah. The whole industry remixes, 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.560 That's what's Yeah, it's like the whole industry. I kind 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:20.840 of piphed the vibes under so like fab did a 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:30.559 remix from Tory Cranium, Jada Kingdom, Busta Rhymes like It's 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.360 it Got create a boogie did a remix, and these 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.320 fave Like the list is low key, kind of crazy 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.760 people their own remixes. Just like yo, if you're a DJ, 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.599 just pick what remix you like the most. Yeah, it's 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.880 like a yeah, it's like a collectible or something like that. So, 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.159 like the different DJs are playing it in different regions, 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.480 they're playing different remixes in different regions. What's the biggest, 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.400 biggest remix. It's not the official remix. You think the 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:53.600 biggestars like what you hear the most when you're out. 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.919 I'm not gonna lie. I can't even do that because 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.680 there's like I go to certain places, like certain cities, 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.359 they're only going to play like certain like you go 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.200 certain place, they're going to play the A B one 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.600 and like the French Montana one that's in the same 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.680 there's got to be a French one. I didn't know 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:15.760 there was crazy shout out the French sir, you tap 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:22.000 Jan Roy Woods, every bro. Crazy You getting Chris Brown 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.599 and Popcorn to fit for the official one? Obviously Chris 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.400 Brown feels like a no brainer. Man. Yeah, that's not 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:31.760 even like, yeah it's Chris Brown. Yeah. He bought it 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.920 for like for R and B, for just the culture 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:37.160 periods like that. That goes signs O D with your project, 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.719 like the music that you're working on right now. Would 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.720 you say that, like your sound in general is in 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.160 tune with this record or do you have other pockets 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.479 you get in, I get in some different pockets. So 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.440 like even if you hear like the rest of the tape, 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:53.960 it's just real New York, but you could tell that 0:06:54.000 --> 0:07:00.159 it's definitely inspired by a Caribbean upbringing as well. And 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:03.080 just it just has I just have mad different vibes 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:06.120 on this table, like it's it's what was the music 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.840 like you say, your Caribbean upbringing? What was the music 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:10.600 like in the household period? So we were listening to 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.440 it like a lot of gospel, were listening to a 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:16.760 lot of like Marley just just it was if you, 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.640 if you, if you finish at Jamaican, there's like a 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:22.120 playlist like it's a certain plate list, like it's just 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.640 you guys, was to everything right right, right right right. 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:28.200 So but I feel like that that inspired like a 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.120 lot of the cadences and a lot of the melodies 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.840 and harmonies and everything that's in my music right now. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:38.600 So for you have it like sometimes when you come 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.720 out and your first record is this big, it could 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.400 be a gift and a curse. Sometimes that happens, and 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.680 like you know, the song, your first song will be 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:50.600 bigger than you as an artist forever. It's happened with 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:52.280 you know a lot of artists. You know, I don't 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:53.680 want to name drop sh it on nobody, but you 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:55.840 know it's happened. It happens all the time. Is that 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.000 something that you're conscious of, like trying to make sure 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.680 that your music isn't bigger than you if that makes sense. Yeah, 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.120 I'm not worried about that because I know, like I 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.440 don't want to sound no way, but there's no where 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.680 that came from, like I'm that guy. No, there's a 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:12.280 whole lot more. You gotta really understand. Yalous is a freestyle. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:15.000 It is a minute forty five second long freestyle with 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.720 no hook, no bridge, no verse, no nothing. So let 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.000 me get this straight, because when you say freestyle for 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.160 people like who aren't in the studio a lot, like 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:27.680 there's freestyles and then there's like yeah, like punching off 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.560 the top of your head. I'm not talking about just 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.120 like a freestyle where it's like I just went in 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:34.160 one take and just there's different types of restoules with that. 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.040 I'm talking about freestyle terms like just the style of 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.600 the record itself, so like there's no real structure to 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.000 there's no real structure. I basically prove that point with this. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.480 There's no rules to this music shit. So like with 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.559 the structure of a record, you know it's supposed to 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.400 be hook, verse, hook, bridge, whatever it is. You know 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.480 what I'm saying that that certain standard of how you 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:55.199 set up your songs. Again, like I said with Yallus, 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.600 there's no hook, no bridge, no verse, no Nathan, It's 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.240 just a series of moments back to back like a 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.480 DJ or something. And you're saying, like, we got, we got, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.600 you got a lot more where that came from. You're 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:10.000 not worried about it, yeah, bro, because like, all right, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:14.319 we have that joint, right, But then I'm a musician 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.280 musician for real, I play instruments and all that. I'm 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.400 really singing singing for real. But I'm really a fan 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:21.760 of hip hop hip for real. I'm really produced, like 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.000 I produced Giallus and everything. I really we really do this. 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:27.040 There's way more where it comes from. You keep all 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.240 the money, that's what you're saying, Make the beat, write 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:34.839 the song, mixed it, mixed the record everything. Damn. You're 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:38.280 like the Bronx Russ kind of wow, and you heard 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:40.200 the song that we did that Russ drop. No, I 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.400 did not you have dropped the joint two weeks ago. 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:45.440 Close Seduce is going crazy right now. Number you know, 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.960 Russ drops the song every week, so it's hard for 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.080 me to keep up at this point. Well, he puts 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:52.640 a lot of music out. Well, the seduced one, the 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:54.920 one that we got is going stupid right now. That's 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:56.839 all I know. How did you? How did how did 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.680 the rust connection happen? He reached out because he just 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.040 seemed energy, especially on Instagram and everything like that, like 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.480 just once you tap in and see how I move, 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.080 like we kind of moved, saying he produces a lot 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.679 of his stuff, He engineers a lot of his stuff. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.720 I do the same. We both talk because you understand 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:14.120 when you do it yourself, you don't have to lower 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:15.920 your voice or lefe for no jokes that aren't funny. 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:18.360 It's a whole real energy. So with me and me 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.880 to him, people like Tory, there's certain people that are 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.120 just like once we tap in, I'm learning too much 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:25.240 from them to drive in too much Jewels, it's too far. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.160 So once we connected, it was it was like nothing. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.520 We dropped the joint like a week after we recorded, 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.680 and now it's going stupid. Wow, rest stuff was that 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:35.599 someone who you like actually fucked with prior to like 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.480 him reaching out because like, oh yeah, you know, I 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:40.800 think Russ is like has been giving people so much 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.160 free game for so long and like showing people the 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.880 way on so many different things. Like but he always 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:49.480 for some reason, motherfucker's like really like the SoundCloud era 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:51.640 of hip hop hated him for whatever reason because their 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.120 haters and there because he kept telling people where he 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.160 would shoot from and say, Yo, stop me, I'm going 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:58.520 to shoot from there, to stop me, and then he 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.120 would shoot from there and take it every time, every 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:02.920 single time, I'm going to sell out the Stable Center. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:05.760 Sold out the Stable Center, right, because when you when 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:07.559 when you say I'm going to sell out the Stable Center, 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:12.480 it's he's being cocky, he's being arrogant until he sells 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:16.040 out the Stable Center. Then it just stop speaking. It's 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.600 all now, you guys just have to right. That's why 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.640 I appreciate this gallous run. I was gonna say, like 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.360 you were you said earlier. When you record yourself, it's 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.920 a different vibe because you know, sometimes when you're in 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.440 the studio, like you said, you gotta sometimes it's hard 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.880 to control the vibe. If there's too many variables that 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.040 pull pull up, come through. Maybe the producer brings a homie, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.559 maybe the engineer brings you know what I'm saying, No, 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.840 because the producer brings homely file one day he got it. Anyway, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.600 So with my sessions, I feel like it's two different 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.000 types of sessions. Sometimes I might want, like some of 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.720 my sessions, like if you see my blocks and stuff, 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.120 it be it'd be mad people in there just be 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.600 a vibe, mad producers, engineers, mad just different, right, just 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.080 pople just you know what I'm saying. But like some 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.040 of my other sessions, it might just be me and 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:07.240 the piano and the lap chob just creating and stuff 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.000 like that. So it's just it varies. But either way 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:11.960 that the environment is always controlled though, I'm not gonna 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.400 have people freestyling my session. I saw you just were 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.440 I believe it today. You were in the Hit Boy 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.760 Yeah kind of. Well then like that shout out to 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:22.840 hit Boy, shout out to hit one of the greatest 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.240 of all time. Yeah, definitely the goal. So it was 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:28.880 hit Boy and shawing in with you. So what's that 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.719 is that for your ship or for their ship? I'm 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.079 just you know what I'm saying, just moving around, staying 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:35.959 this decade. It's a little Wayne t Pain runner and 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.120 be on everybody's so like you're about to go on 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.760 that kind of run. Everybody hooked, everybody bridge, everybody verse. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:43.320 I might produce to beat, I might write it for you. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.160 I might be the one on the boards. That's That's 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:48.280 a good goal to have because when T Pain and 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:52.000 Lil Wayne had that run, it was like for programmers 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.200 on the radio side, it was a lot. It was like, Yo, 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.120 we can't do no artists, separation everyone this fucking ta 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:02.199 pains on everyone's hook. That's that's the Goalah, absolutely ambush. 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:04.040 You know what's crazy is that on the West Coast 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.760 we have Blast, who's kind of like the other guy 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:10.880 doing that. Right, have you guys connected or broke in Brooklyn? 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:14.679 That's crazy? So you and so have you? Blast is 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.360 another guy who does everything himself. He records himself, makes 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.400 the beat, does all that. You guys work on any music. 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.040 Just just knows that be a good decade. Just know, 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.160 so you and Blast got music together. You know what 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.559 I'm saying. It's just a lot going on. So that means, yes, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:31.200 nice who made the beat though, if both you guys 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.199 make the beat, like you guys both make beats, so 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:37.760 who made them? Who made the beat? Did you handle 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.080 the beat? Or did the Blast handle the beat? It's 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:44.160 a lot going on. I can't wait until everybody sees 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.560 what's in store for this decade, you understand, man? I 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:49.320 like how you talking in decades? Yeah? Absolutely, because it's 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.280 not because I'm not here for for this record, here 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.080 for this year, right, I'm taking the decade at a time. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:57.959 That Bro, most people don't look at shit that way. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.000 They're just trying to They're just trying to get to tomorrow. Yeah. 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.280 I feel like that's how you fuck up the longevity though, 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.280 because you make stupid, short minded decisions and then you know, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.960 two years from now, you ain't ship, You're you're relevant, 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:10.840 you know what I mean, You're gone. Yeah. Nah, you 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.120 gotta come up with this energy because you know what 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.160 I'm saying, even though I'm very grateful to be here, 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.360 it's not just happy to be energy. You gotta be ready. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:22.080 I'm ready. So a new new Russ and Capella Grade 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:32.000 joint project coming soon. Executive produced. Uh my Blast. I 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:33.600 feel like there's a couple of people in the industry 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.160 that I'm meeting that I'm I feel like it's it's unpleasant, 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.640 not pleasantly surprised. That sounds crazy, but I'm just really 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:40.760 grateful that they're really nice at what they do. Like 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.880 meeting Rust in person, he's really dumb nice, Like he's 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:48.800 a dumb nice in person. Meeting Cranium in person, like 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:52.440 when he was recording Gather Makes Another all the other music, 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.640 he's really nice. Like it's not like a team. I'm 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:57.440 thinking I'm about to walk in as a team of 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:01.000 writers and a team that's always disappointing. Man. I've had 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.720 a couple of you know what I'm saying, Like I'm 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.960 just seeing the who who is who? And I'm like, 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:10.680 who actually, Like, you know, especially with producers, you'll be thinking, 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.520 like a producer is so crazy and you're getting the 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:14.080 studio with them, and you'll be like, oh no, they're 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.840 just putting their tag on it. And they got like 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.040 three little homies that make the beats and ship and 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.160 then and then you getting with hit boy and hit 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.800 Boy will be nah. But I just going crazy though 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:25.680 in the same breath though, just you know what I'm 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.840 saying in the same breath, Then you respect them more 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.160 as businessmen too, because even though you're disappointed on the 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:34.760 creative side, then you understand, all right, cool, yeah, you 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.080 put it on artists, and it's not like those artists 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:41.120 aren't getting credit or or getting their pub anything. That 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.920 whole sound is from the hand of that literally from 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:48.720 the hand. But sometimes it's like puff where it's like 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.080 the record might be your brain shot, where it's like, 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.320 all right, I want something that has the vibe of this, 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:55.920 I want snaps in this, I want this type of vibe, 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.920 this whatever. So you're still producing the record. I guess 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.480 you know what I'm saying. It's just not pressing the button. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.440 So either way, what do you produce your beats? On? Logic? 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.120 Logic all the vocals everything, So you do everything through logic. 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.520 You don't need pro tools. No, I just haven't entered 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.600 that yet yet. I soon learned all the those. But hey, man, 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.640 logic is a lot you know, quiets kept a lot 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.120 of people only use logic, Like Mike Posner only uses logic. Yeah, 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:23.400 I know, te Pain uses logic. He was using garage, 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:25.560 but he was making mad hits like on garage. Man, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.240 A lot of it says are like on garage. That's 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.080 wild to think for people who don't know. That's like 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.880 the free software that comes on your your very limited capabilities. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.880 Like he was making like platinum hits off of that, 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:41.800 and like with yeah, with logic, with Yells, I did 0:16:41.800 --> 0:16:46.920 everything logic, the vocals recorded right into it, right, everything 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:50.680 that's huge, like the workflow. Did you did you have 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.480 a moment at Summer Jam this year? I wasn't there. 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:59.560 I was before I performed twice though. Who brought you out? 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.840 A book? Game making? Right? Oh? Nice? Like that? What 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.720 was the third? Third time? You're supposed to? What happened 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:08.800 with the third time? Always create another moment with the 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.960 same vibe? So good? You know what I'm saying, that's 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:12.840 going to create the biggest moments in hip. What was 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.119 that like? Though? Like crazy? Because I've been to Summer 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.640 Jam three times and it's like people don't who've never been. 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.879 It's like the energy's crazy. It's like, I've never been 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.679 to Summer Jam before this time. I said, just as 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.399 an artist thing that I was writing and producers, So 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:29.520 in my head, I was just like I don't even 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:31.880 want to go to Summer Jam unless like I'm maybe 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.360 you hear your ship that you produced her or you're 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.120 performing you know what I'm saying, or something like that. Yeah, 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.840 So like with some especially as a New Yorker summer gym, 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:43.360 that's like that's like the Grammys, that's like the Holy 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.159 grail Man, you know what I'm saying. And it was 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.199 like rainy as fuck, right, it was stupid rainy. That's 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.399 why to perform the third time, And that's why it 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:54.360 was fired because when it rained, the festival stage got 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.760 canced the one outside, right yeah, and everybody was like, 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.440 oh man, so it's over if it was any because 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.520 I wasn't. It wasn't no advertising that I was going 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.360 to perform. Everybody thought I was gonna perform at all. 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.920 So when the rain started and they canceled the festival stage, 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.000 everybody thought it was clipped for that I was the 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.800 main stage. So that was definitely a good vibe. Let 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.520 me ask you this, because you seem like somebody who's 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.120 who's got your head on your shoulders. With the music ship, 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:22.000 with the business ship, what I'm sure you could have. 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.200 I mean, I'm sure obviously having a record as big 0:18:24.240 --> 0:18:27.360 as this, you probably had crazy leverage with the label situation. 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.119 What made you want to actually do the major label 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:32.200 things you really probably didn't need to. Like what made 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.560 you do that? There was just certain things from them 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.000 that I wanted and it was just that's why it's 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.000 a joint venture. It was just it was just certain 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:41.960 things that by the way, off of one record, not 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.000 a lot of people are getting joint ventures. It doesn't 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:49.960 very rare, if ever, But I mean, you know a 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:51.440 lot once you hear some of the other stuff, like 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.960 when you here the follow up, I'm telling you yealous 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.280 like it's dope, But just the intro, just to just 0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:00.520 to taste were like a lot, and I gave a 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.840 little preview kind of of what you're about to do 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:03.960 it because you heard a little bit. A lot of 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.240