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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast more than just a camp body.

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Speaker 2: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 2: I am Dan Hans's heroes here, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal

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Speaker 2: a wooga. Another big week of shows, are counting the

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Speaker 2: Hard Knock Spot our fourth show a week. So if you,

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Speaker 2: I guess what I'm trying to say, Greg, is if

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Speaker 2: you want to be like you want the pulse of

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Speaker 2: our league around, the League's got you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Football is back. I not only appreciate the quantity of

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Speaker 3: the shows, but the quality to back up the Fantasy

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Speaker 3: Football Extravaganza, the thirty ninth annual So Many, which was

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Speaker 3: a banger with now what is becoming one of our

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Speaker 3: great new traditions over under predictions with such a big

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Speaker 3: name like Bill Barnwell. I mean back to back.

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Speaker 4: It's a train heading downhill, and I don't mean that

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Speaker 4: in a negative way, just it's picking up speed, just

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Speaker 4: by sheer gravity. And I would just point to the

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Speaker 4: listeners and say, oh, it's too much content for me.

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Speaker 4: I have a busy week, Like no, no, no, it's

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Speaker 4: your You have a responsibility in that life.

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Speaker 1: You do that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so I think you are. There was

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Speaker 2: no foul language in there, but there's a YouTube program involved.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of an have.

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Speaker 4: You checked out real far reaches of YouTube? I think

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Speaker 4: I don't think you crossed any boundaries there.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, yes, over unders with Bill Barnwell, how about that?

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Speaker 2: And uh he was back yesterday boys, But we were

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Speaker 2: so busy with the extravaganza that we didn't get a

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Speaker 2: chance to check in with Eric Roberts, or new Wish

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Speaker 2: producer who's done very, very good work since taking over

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Speaker 2: for the Hall of Famer Justin Graver. Eric ran into

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Speaker 2: a little trouble over the weekend that put him on

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Speaker 2: short term boomerang. Ir Eric, do you want to tell

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Speaker 2: the audience and.

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Speaker 1: How are you? First of all, I'm doing good, guys.

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Speaker 1: This is gnarly.

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Speaker 2: I just want to give everyone a heads up and

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Speaker 2: the YouTube audience heads up on this. This is gnarley.

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Speaker 2: Eric Roberts sustained an injury in the kitchen on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: People are wondering how many drinks he had in the

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Speaker 2: system when he was sustaining this injury. But I'll throw

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Speaker 2: it to you, Eric, what happened to you?

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Speaker 5: But yes, so I was meal prepping for the week

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Speaker 5: coming ahead. So I got homes Yeah, you know, so pressed.

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Speaker 5: I like to cook the vegetables for the week. You

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Speaker 5: know that we don't have to do it in the morning.

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Speaker 5: Got a nice new slicer.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that slice. Yeah, that's the slice.

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Speaker 5: I think it's called a Madeline, a Madalline splice. There's

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Speaker 5: basically a handheld guillotine. It looks like and yeah, I

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Speaker 5: mean I got it for a wedding gift. You guys know,

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Speaker 5: I'm recently married. First time I had ever used it.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, babe, let's use this. It's under in

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Speaker 5: the box to go out of the box. I used

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Speaker 5: it for ten seconds and I took a hearty chunk

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Speaker 5: of my thumb out with it.

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Speaker 3: And when you say hardy chunk, I mean he's not

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Speaker 3: kidding and includes some of the nail. There's some graphic pictures.

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Speaker 3: We're not putting those up.

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Speaker 6: But no, we can't put that on you.

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Speaker 1: I don't do we have any blurred out photo.

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Speaker 6: I might might, I might. Maybe, I'll give it a yeah,

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Speaker 6: I don't worry.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to see it.

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Speaker 6: No, it's yeah, I know.

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Speaker 5: So it's like if you if you have a grape

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Speaker 5: the top of it off.

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Speaker 6: That's basically what I lost. That's the parallel.

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Speaker 3: And they say it might grow back though, which you

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Speaker 3: haven't know that grow back throws.

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Speaker 5: I'm in the ear and you know, I'm I'm you know,

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Speaker 5: I have a pretty weird sense of humor. I'm calm,

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Speaker 5: so I'm not gonna be giveing any two thumbs up

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Speaker 5: anytime soon. I've made a fonsie joke at some point

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Speaker 5: and he's like, well, you know, it will grow back,

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Speaker 5: and I'm like, whoa, And he's like, what it will

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Speaker 1: Though, now that is see that would be the most disturbing.

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Speaker 4: I don't hold on, hold on like it's like, so

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Speaker 4: let's say, you know, I'm glad to say, chopped your

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Speaker 4: according to the stock?

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Speaker 1: I don't think.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that's I think it's like it sounds.

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Speaker 1: It's like it with a reptile.

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Speaker 2: If you cut off its head, you know it's over

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Speaker 2: cut off its tail, the tail comes back.

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Speaker 1: So maybe it's just a part.

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Speaker 5: By part, you know, how it goes in movies and everything.

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Speaker 5: So grab the thing, put in ice, take it. They

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Speaker 5: suit your up and it's good. So my wife she

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Speaker 5: grabbed the chunk off of the plate where the potato

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Speaker 5: was supposed to go, and so she is sent chunk folks.

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Speaker 5: She is standing there in the er with me and

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Speaker 5: he's holding this bag and she's like, what do I

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Speaker 6: And the doctor says what is that? And she's like,

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Speaker 5: Like, oh, I thought that was just a bag of ice.

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Speaker 5: He's throw that away. We cannot reattach that. So, hey, doc,

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Speaker 5: what do you think it is? But so, and they

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Speaker 5: a Biohi, Yeah it was. It was just straight up

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Speaker 5: like it was just straight foot to trash in.

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Speaker 2: Did you get an opportunity to say goodbye to the

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Speaker 2: bio house?

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Speaker 6: I see it through it. It was colored pretty quick.

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Speaker 4: So it's I have one question who gave you the slicer?

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Speaker 4: Like what gave you that wedding? It's actually a very

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Speaker 4: that's a coincident.

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Speaker 5: TI, It's a I have some e mt buddies, So

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Speaker 5: it's actually kind of funny. Like when I do see

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, I mean, what did he think was

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Speaker 1: That's where she's.

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Speaker 6: Standing there like a lunch bag.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Gwyneth Poucher's head from seven There.

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Speaker 2: Let's piece it together, doc, there is a patient in

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Speaker 2: his body missing. His harried wife, very upset and emotional,

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Speaker 1: Let's piece it together. I'm asking for a different doctor

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Speaker 2: Well, Christy, it's great that you're back. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: of compy leg model this weekend. Oh yes, So do

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Speaker 2: you have to do a lot of calf exercises to

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Speaker 1: Don't like day often?

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Speaker 6: Guys. I think your legs, I mean his legs already

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Speaker 2: Well, we saw it at Cowboys camp, and it was

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, it was stunning because the art that he

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Speaker 1: Nice pair of caves, I clocked. It.

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Speaker 6: Can't deny that good luck.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if you get anything for

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm basically being taken down to like pimp out

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Speaker 1: Don't chill your upper body. It's never gonna be.

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Speaker 5: The same, that's true. Never been a six pack guy

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Speaker 2: No, I mean I met the thumb like I could

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Speaker 2: grow into its own monster. It's a science fiction movie potentially.

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Speaker 3: Well, good to have you back here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, shout out to Randy frolling it down while

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Speaker 2: That's what Chavez does. That's why he's big, fucking big

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Speaker 2: spot for it. All Right, let's hit the news with

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Speaker 3: Second pick in the twenty fourteen NFL draft, the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: This is better than the movie draft thing. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 3: I like the fact Cleveland he came back.

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Speaker 1: He got the young quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, untold Johnny Football on Netflix we've all watched it

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Speaker 4: It was a really engaging documentary for me because sometimes

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Speaker 4: I thought, like, you know, years removed from that drama

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Speaker 4: Browns and changed the Browns forever, and instead you're watching

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Speaker 6: It was just NonStop drama.

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Speaker 3: and then he's out for a week or two, and

441
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Speaker 3: that's been his story. So to me, I saw our

442
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,600
Speaker 3: friend Matt Harmon like he's getting drafted in fantasy leagues

443
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,439
Speaker 3: pretty high. But it's just like our vibes. I do

444
00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,880
Speaker 3: not want any part of him in terms of fantasy

445
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 3: and as a as a Lion supporter, and I'm sticking

446
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Speaker 3: with these Lions. I know we're not gonna I know

447
00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 3: we're not going to make them the team of atl

448
00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,520
Speaker 3: but I want them to win. I'm just don't think

449
00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 3: you can really count on Jamison Williams.

450
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Speaker 6: To be like some big difference maker.

451
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Speaker 3: That's right, let's.

452
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Speaker 2: Bring it back. Yeah, I mean I I can't do it.

453
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 2: Can't go back to back.

454
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Speaker 4: With the little bits that we've seen from Jamison Williams,

455
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Speaker 4: like the huge, big plays and little spot moments like.

456
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Speaker 1: Is there one?

457
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Speaker 4: It's one, no, but I know, but you know the

458
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 4: thing there is I I started to really believe in

459
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 4: him last year and thought he could be a real

460
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Speaker 4: difference maker for this offense. But you're now like at

461
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Speaker 4: this point where like if something does big doesn't happen

462
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Speaker 4: at the end of this season, this first round pick

463
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 4: is starting to look really in peril and and it's

464
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Speaker 4: a you know, this Chiefs game is coming up very

465
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Speaker 4: quickly and they don't have like you've got Josh Reynolds

466
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Speaker 4: and Marvin Jones. They asked Dan Campbell about your guy

467
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Speaker 4: Denzel Mims, Like where is he at? How is he progressing?

468
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Speaker 4: And here's what Dan Campbell said, He's in the room.

469
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Speaker 4: Wish I could give you more. It's like thanks a lot,

470
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Speaker 4: Dan Campbell, Like there's I mean, yeah, it's not going

471
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Speaker 4: to make the team. And like it's another like month

472
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Speaker 4: month plus where like Jared Goff is not working with

473
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Speaker 4: Jamison Williams and it's like he missed all of last

474
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Speaker 4: off seasons.

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Speaker 3: I mean he got hurt in college too, that's right,

476
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Speaker 3: one of the reasons he fell.

477
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Speaker 1: In the draft.

478
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Speaker 2: And as I stated during the Manziel conversation, I'm not

479
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,919
Speaker 2: watching college football closely, but he was a stud I

480
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: know that at Alabama, right absolutely, and so there's certainly

481
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: talent locked in his body. But the bust vibes are

482
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 2: strung thus far. It's not it's not anything to go

483
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,719
Speaker 2: into a panic about, but not a great start, especially

484
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 2: a new factor in the gambling.

485
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Speaker 1: They just messy, messy, messy.

486
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Speaker 2: Speaking of bad vibes, bust vibes, I do not like

487
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Speaker 2: the Thursday night opener vibes. I didn't like it when

488
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Speaker 2: the schedule came out. I like the Lions, I just

489
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: don't love that spot for them against the Chiefs at

490
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Speaker 2: Arrowhead on Thursday night. I feel like there's so many

491
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Speaker 2: directions we could have went with that first game. Hopefully

492
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Speaker 2: I'll be proven wrong and it's going to be instant classic.

493
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Speaker 1: Just you know what.

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Speaker 4: The one thing for the for the NFL schedule makers,

495
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Speaker 4: because they tend to go real obvious or conservative with

496
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Speaker 4: the opening game, where it's like you kind of know

497
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Speaker 4: who both teams are. This was kind of like the

498
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Speaker 4: still it feels like it was made on a weekend

499
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Speaker 4: bender and the like, let's.

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Speaker 1: Just rostall on something to do with it.

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Speaker 4: Well but directly it's aggressive, but the but there's variants here.

502
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Speaker 4: It could it could be a hot mess, or it

503
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Speaker 4: could be delightful.

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Speaker 3: Well. Famously, my desk was near the scheduling department in

505
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Speaker 3: the famously NFL offices the year I was there. I

506
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Speaker 3: like it, we don't need to start previewing week one.

507
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Speaker 3: But I had I had a vision one night a

508
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Speaker 3: few weeks ago. I'm not saying what was happening, and

509
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: was just hanging out by myself at house that night

510
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Speaker 3: and I felt I felt like, I think the Lions,

511
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Speaker 3: they're gonna they're gonna put up a good fight, maybe

512
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Speaker 3: they even win that game. They're gonna show up. They're

513
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Speaker 3: gonna show I hope you're right, and it's gonna be

514
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Speaker 3: like in the forties or something. It'll just be like

515
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Speaker 3: a stupid like too many like people that like defense

516
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Speaker 3: would be like this is too much offense. It's like, no,

517
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Speaker 3: let's go sounds like that's that will be my line

518
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Speaker 3: by the end of that game.

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Speaker 1: In the history of this podcast.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite ridiculous storylines ever was just after

521
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Speaker 2: the Mexico City game.

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Speaker 1: It was like fifty three to fifty. Who was that was.

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Speaker 3: Fifty forty five?

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Speaker 1: I think, oh, no, no it was I think it

525
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Speaker 1: was Rams Chiefs. Yeah, uh and uh.

526
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Speaker 2: All the articles for the next few days this is

527
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Speaker 2: what football is now. Welcome to the new NFL.

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Speaker 3: It's fifty four to fifty one.

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Speaker 6: And it was like, shut up.

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Speaker 3: You know what The funny thing is though, that you

531
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Speaker 3: never know it when it's happening. But that literally was

532
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Speaker 3: the peak of the Jared Goff Rams that night. It

533
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Speaker 3: actually went downhill pretty soon thereafter. They had that bills

534
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Speaker 3: in those Eagles games that that shut them down, and

535
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Speaker 3: then they had the Super rowl later. Like that night

536
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Speaker 3: was it?

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Speaker 4: I I felt, you know what you remember those I

538
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 4: do remember the article, Oh you were into it.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't write the article because I think that's what.

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Speaker 3: We we have to dig up the atn from that.

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Speaker 3: I think we all were a little into it. Being

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Speaker 3: with West I think was into it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because you I think you need like another couple

544
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Speaker 4: of years to see that that that's even the case

545
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 4: it's too small a sample size. But I remember watching

546
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 4: that game and everyone's freaking out. I was like, this

547
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 4: is not the football that I want, to be honest,

548
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Speaker 4: this is just there was.

549
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Speaker 2: There was a number of think pieces out there and

550
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: big words about were basically this is a real.

551
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Speaker 4: That was a time when with with with like the

552
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 4: way that football writing was going in general, it was

553
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Speaker 4: like everything a new think piece emerged weekly.

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Speaker 6: I feel like there's a lot less of that.

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Speaker 3: Well, and and people forget it was a crazy offensive game,

556
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Speaker 3: but there were like seven turnovers in that game and

557
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Speaker 3: a couple of defensive touchdowns. It actually kind of was

558
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Speaker 3: a sneaky like defense made some plays in that hot

559
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 3: take and contributed to the high They didn't like the

560
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Speaker 3: game that much. It was stupid.

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Speaker 1: I don't like when teams just go up and down

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Speaker 1: the field back.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: They didn't.

565
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Speaker 3: There was literally seven turnovers and I think defense the

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Speaker 3: end of the game. I remember I brought up the

567
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Speaker 3: box score to make sure check up.

568
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Speaker 1: The drive summary.

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Speaker 3: But you're right, the offense is basically scored or turned

570
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Speaker 3: the ball over. But there were seven turn some defensive scorers,

571
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Speaker 3: but some big time.

572
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Speaker 4: I don't want that score. Three out of four games

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: Would, Bill parcellstot football was give me, give me seventeen,

575
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: give me a strategy on both sides.

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Speaker 3: Back after this, it's like the huge, like peanut butter

577
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: and chocolate, piece of pie.

578
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: Too much.

579
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 3: It comes out you're rich, and you think it's too much,

580
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: and then you think it's been.

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Speaker 6: Four years since I something you want. I do not

582
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Speaker 6: agree with you.

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Speaker 3: Let's try it.

584
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Speaker 4: We do not, but I'm right you're not. You're simply

585
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: not even listening to Daniel.

586
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Speaker 2: Opinions vary Greg back after this last thing, disgraceful. That's

587
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: the only thing. Put up this tweet, Eric, if you can,

588
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 2: because you only have one thumbnail.

589
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Speaker 1: Look at this.

590
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Speaker 2: Look at this Teddy Bridgewater number fifty, Greggy, the Lions.

591
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 2: I'm taking them on the under whatever the under is. Why,

592
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Speaker 2: Because we've taken this too far. We lost control. We

593
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 2: just we let the players pick whatever number they want,

594
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Speaker 2: and now we have a damn quarterback that's number fifty.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I have games that count. I have two things

596
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Speaker 3: on this. You want the wet blanket thing first or

597
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 3: the pro teddy thing first?

598
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: Aren't it either? Can I get in either.

599
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 3: Let's go pro Teddy. I love it that Teddy's thinking different.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you say you I want Dona on everyone

601
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 3: to be automatons out there. Teddy's changing the game here,

602
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: he's fifty. The fact that so many people got upset

603
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: about this, to me, that's a good sign that Teddy's

604
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 3: doing something special.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's the other bad take?

606
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: The wet blanket thing is there actually weren't any numbers

607
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: available literally what and that he's gonna end up getting

608
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: assigned one of the actual quarterback numbers when some of

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00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 3: those people get oh, well.

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Speaker 6: And it's a charade, it's just a charade.

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Speaker 3: Well, he wasn't his choice, but it literally isn't a

612
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: single number available in one to twenty.

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Speaker 4: Or if it's not his choice, you can't turn around

614
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 4: and tell us how original he is.

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00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: And I think after that he chose.

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Speaker 1: It right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: But Teddy Bridgewater, I know he's not a star, and

619
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Speaker 2: he's not at the level of QB in my opinion

620
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Speaker 2: that Greg sees him as.

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Speaker 1: But he's a veteran, he's respected.

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Speaker 2: There's got to be a camp body, like third or

623
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Speaker 2: fourth string quarterback that, like, you go up to him,

624
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 2: be like bro Teddy's former first round pick. He's been

625
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: in league ten years, he's taken ten and you're gonna

626
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: grab fifty and deal with it or else, like I

627
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: don't somebody you have to send an intern over to

628
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: deliver that news.

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Speaker 1: And he's a humble Teddy. No, keep Teddy out of it,

630
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

631
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Speaker 6: Like I'm with you, I'm with you.

632
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Speaker 1: I'm gone to Teddy and saying Teddy bad news.

633
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: Ten year veteran, been through amazing levels of diversity and

634
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: come through, and you're widely beloved behind the scenes in

635
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Speaker 2: the NFL.

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00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 4: We don't have any numbers for you. Pal Okay, now

637
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 4: you're fifty. It's an organizational breakdown. I get you on

638
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: that front, but it's it's just a summertime play thing.

639
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 4: It won't even be true comes September.

640
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Speaker 1: I think it's a bad sign for the line.

641
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this is the reporting I saw

643
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: on that is accurate, So I hope that when the

644
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: opener shows Teddy on the sidelines week one, it's fifty.

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00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: And if you thought I was annoying with the Gino

646
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: Smith read, we didn't think that when Teddy Bridgewater is

647
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 3: dropping a forty burger on the Cowboys in the Divisional

648
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: round to lead them to the NFC championship, just wait,

649
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: I'll be able to die happily, you know, after you

650
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 3: are utterly delusional.

651
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: When's less than Teddy had a game, Let's check out

652
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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think he went in there for the

654
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Speaker 6: Dolphins for about six minutes.

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Speaker 3: He got he kept getting hurt, He kept playing without

656
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: Armstead and getting hurt. He had some games for the Broncos,

657
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: a very misunderstood season. You don't need to go through everystin.

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00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 6: Well, you very clearly understood.

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00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: You're the one that does this that makes us reltigate

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00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: this over and over.

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00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 6: And you drag the two of us through it.

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Speaker 4: You're on the podcast, I know, but it's just like,

663
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Speaker 4: this is unnecessary.

664
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Speaker 6: This is an unnecessary direction.

665
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Speaker 1: He was like for Bronco season was misunderstood.

666
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Speaker 3: It absolutely was. He was above average PFF grade. He

667
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: was a solid starter on a terrible team.

668
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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I like this week thirteen, twenty twenty one against the

670
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Speaker 2: terrible Detroit defense, he lit them up.

671
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Okay, well it threw for one hundred and seventy nine yards,

672
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: but it was thirty ten.

673
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: They started that season nice, Remember they beat the Jags.

674
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: He threw for over three hundred Yeah whatever, I.

675
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: Think we're trying to get you to relax. But to

676
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Speaker 2: your point, his passer rating was ninety five that year.

677
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 4: I mean, you have, but everyone's is ninety five. Now,

678
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: this is not not nineteen eighty nine.

679
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Speaker 1: It's fair.

680
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break and then we'll get

681
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: Bill Barnwell in here.

682
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: Welcome back, joining us now femine minds in pro football coverage.

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00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell.

684
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Speaker 7: Kind of left this play out for a bit to

685
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Speaker 7: be honest with you. L that's want to percolate in

686
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 7: the vibes of this late afternoon song. I feel like,

687
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Speaker 7: yeah you are, Yeah you are.

688
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Speaker 1: So we're our shack test. How what does this song

689
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Speaker 1: mean to you? Like?

690
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: What what? What is it evoke within you? Including your life?

691
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 7: I just got dumped. I just got dumped. But I'm

692
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 7: not but I'm not mad about it.

693
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 3: Like I feel like it was good.

694
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 7: I'm okay, it worked out fine.

695
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Speaker 6: It was in the mail.

696
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's very good.

697
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Speaker 3: I like that.

698
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: One last week last week, it felt like my partner

699
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Speaker 2: was just shot in a drug bust. Gone wrong and

700
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Speaker 2: I'm driving home to my apartment on Miami Beach.

701
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Speaker 7: Uh.

702
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Speaker 2: This week, it feels a little more carnal for me,

703
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Speaker 2: But I like, I like where you're coming from.

704
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 7: I think we're in similar wavelengths.

705
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little yeah, go ahead.

706
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Speaker 7: Do we want to get into how how how much

707
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 7: more carnal it is for you? Perhaps?

708
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: Well, I would like to expect Kyle Kyle Brandt put

709
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: it well, that had a silk stockings vibe to him.

710
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: Yes, bgham with some billowing curtains in the night.

711
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: That's him watching something of that nature. You're saying this

712
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Speaker 4: involves you though, and you know fill in the blank

713
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Speaker 4: other individual or individuals.

714
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

715
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Speaker 2: Maybe you're taking down Cela Road and I'm just no,

716
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Speaker 2: I'm just asking it gets a little okay, multi dimensional?

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00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: Put it that.

718
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Speaker 2: Way, Bill Barnwell. Last year, this is one of my

719
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Speaker 2: favorite exercises of the preseason. Last year we did it

720
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Speaker 2: with Minah, so we had to get another Hall of Famer.

721
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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: We we take a look at all of the over

723
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Speaker 2: unders according to where do we go with FanDuel Fanduels

724
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Speaker 2: over unders for season record for all thirty two teams

725
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Speaker 2: in our league. And what we do is draft style,

726
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: and we will each draft four teams and just quickly

727
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Speaker 2: to go through the standings.

728
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: Can we flash that.

729
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: Up what we did the boys here, Zeusser took a

730
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Speaker 2: dirt nap, went one and three. I had the Patriots

731
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Speaker 2: over other Patriots had had a ten and seven locked

732
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: and loaded, just to mess with everybody. But it turns

733
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Speaker 2: out that Patricia was not the answer for their offense.

734
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: Let's see Greg went three and one. Good job by you,

735
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: gregy Bears under Eagles, over Chiefs, over Colts over see,

736
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Speaker 2: you got sucked in by the map.

737
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Speaker 3: You know what, if you look at the three I

738
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: got right, you clinched that. By week fifteen they cleared

739
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: him by three each at least.

740
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good job.

741
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Speaker 7: Was spending spending that money week sixty nine exactly.

742
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: Rex spends like half his year in the desert, So

743
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Speaker 4: I'm not surprised to cut.

744
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: I had Pats over eight and a half, Cowboys under ten,

745
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: Bills over ten and a half, Raiders over eight and

746
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: a half. I only got bills Sessler, very typical mark

747
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: on the fence one one and two.

748
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Speaker 4: Well, not by my that's the like Earth created. I

749
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't go on the fence with my picks.

750
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: Got you Texans over four and a half.

751
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: That's an l Commanders under eight that was a push,

752
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: Chargers over ten that was a push.

753
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: Push, and Niners over ten. You cast it on that one.

754
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: Mina did well too. Now some reason, it is going

755
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: to be recorded forever, bill on, go get my lunch

756
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: dot org. For some reason, they only had three of

757
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: our picks out of the four, but Mina one and

758
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 3: two out of three of those, so she did well too.

759
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 7: Do you remember what Mina's picks works? I feel like

760
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 7: I know what my three over unders before the year

761
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Speaker 7: were last season. If I had been wow doing this exercise.

762
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Speaker 3: She went over Lions which was good, under Cardinals which

763
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: was great, and Saints over which was bad.

764
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Speaker 1: We were okay, how were yours? Last year?

765
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Speaker 7: It would have number one by a significant margin was

766
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Speaker 7: Raiders under. I was very anti Raiders. That worked out

767
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 7: pretty well. In the big picture. I would have been

768
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Speaker 7: over Ravens. I think Ravens was nine and a half,

769
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Speaker 7: maybe maybe ten. Ravens went over even with Lamar getting injured,

770
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Speaker 7: and then I had Falcons under and Falcons under did

771
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Speaker 7: not hit the Falcons exceeded mine, and I feel like

772
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Speaker 7: many people's expectations. So to Arthur Smith, I would have

773
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Speaker 7: gone for three last year.

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00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: All right, well this is a new season, and uh,

775
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: I know you have ties to the Gibon. So what

776
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: I have here, Bill Barnwell, is a official Giants helmet.

777
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: It's heavy. Well, it's real, it is, Yeah, a real person.

778
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: I have each of our four names, and we're going

779
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: to do the draft.

780
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: Daughter here. Should the first name out?

781
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: This is always crucial for the first Should the first

782
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 2: name out be the first pick or the fourth person?

783
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: First? I think it should be the fourth because then

784
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: you have more build up.

785
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 6: Oh that's better, show you're the host.

786
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: I even asked, why is it?

787
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 7: Yes?

788
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: You want We're fine, that's all right, here's the fourth.

789
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Speaker 2: But this is going to really backfire in the old

790
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: Zeuser because I will pull my name out first.

791
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: No, Greg perfect.

792
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Speaker 6: A, Sorry, Greg, I mean sorry, Gregy.

793
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 3: I was surprising that I wiped the floor with you

794
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 3: guys a year ago.

795
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: Oh he's hitting out.

796
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: I mean, they're just facts.

797
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: Look at the but remember.

798
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 2: Last time we did a draft, we did the running

799
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Speaker 2: back draft and it did not go See Greg, We'll see.

800
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: The third overall pick the old tugboat. All right?

801
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: Up next, this will determine who has the first overall pick.

802
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: It's either Bill or Mark. This is like web. This

803
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 2: means a lot to Mark. By the way, Bill, way

804
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: more to Mark than it is to you. Here we

805
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: go second pick, Mark Sessler, and as it should be,

806
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: our guest Bill Barnwell has the first overall pick, and

807
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: it is a snake draft.

808
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, well I think last year it wasn't.

809
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: So that's it, or maybe it shouldn't be. Actually, well,

810
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to put that. Shouldn't no snake, no snake.

811
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Speaker 7: No seven seven.

812
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it. I'm the

813
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: defending champ here. And also with the picks. What do

814
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: we call that?

815
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 7: Oh?

816
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: No, no locks of the week. So I think we

817
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 3: need to draft. We need to make it harder for

818
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: me that they know, they don't they don't say.

819
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: So we're going to follow the NFL.

820
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. My

821
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 3: picks are so original it won't even matter.

822
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: All right, we got to take down several notches, just

823
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: a couple of All right, Bill, get it going first

824
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: overall pick in the over underdraft.

825
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 7: I felt so bad about this pick already, and.

826
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: I know what it's going to be. Can I guess because.

827
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: Okay, he's been burying them all off season. He's been

828
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: he's been the guy.

829
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 3: Pouring Maybe I'm wrong water all.

830
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: Over the New York Jets and their chances.

831
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I was gonna say, you're gonna hit out at

832
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: your own team and go under Giants right after one

833
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 3: of the New York teams.

834
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: All right, we.

835
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 7: Jets or Giants, you were incorrect. Isn't over. It isn't

836
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 7: over on a team that nobody feels good about. An

837
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 7: over on the Denver Bronco.

838
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Speaker 3: As the first overall pick. People saying it's a reach.

839
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 7: Get your guys, I gotta I gotta wait at least

840
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 7: three picks. The Broncos were very unlucky under that sort

841
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 7: of surface of being terrible and having their quarterback situation

842
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 7: go disastrously and their coaching pick went terribly. They were

843
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 7: the most injured team in ball last year per the

844
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 7: adjusted games lost metric at Football Outsiders. Now, I know

845
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 7: they already lost Tim Patrick to a tourney chilles. It's

846
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 7: not going to help, but I believe they are a

847
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 7: much healthier team this year than they were a year ago.

848
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,959
Speaker 7: They were a defense that was frankly extremely good until

849
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 7: the final month of the year when they gassed out

850
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 7: because of the injuries. Because the offense was playing terribly.

851
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 7: They were I believe fourth n EPA per play through

852
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 7: week thirteen, six I believe sixth and DVOA and not

853
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 7: getting that right, somewhere in the top five by multiple metrics.

854
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 7: By points per drive, they were six through week thirteen. Afterwards,

855
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 7: one of the worst defenses in football. Injuries, just just

856
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 7: the fact that they were playing for nothing that they

857
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 7: contributed to that. As the December doldrums came in and

858
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 7: they added a lot this offseason. You go out and

859
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 7: you get Sean Payton, who's going to be a guy

860
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 7: who's going to do a better job of coaching those games.

861
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 7: Mike McGlinchey comes in, Ben Powers comes in at guard.

862
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 7: They bring in Zach Allen from the Cardinals, who had

863
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 7: a career year last year. This is a team that

864
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 7: had they blew four fourth quarter leads last season. To me,

865
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 7: I feel like they're going to do a better job

866
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 7: of holding onto those leads. They were competitive in a

867
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 7: lot more games that people remember and this is gonna

868
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 7: come back to bite me. I don't love it. I

869
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 7: just think there is more left in Russell Wilson than

870
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 7: people give them credit for. I think they're going to

871
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 7: be a very competitive team. I think they're going to

872
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 7: be a playoff team. Wow, if they win nine games,

873
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 7: chances are they're going to be a playoff team.

874
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: Right on the fringe to me.

875
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 7: To me, I think they can win ten games, and

876
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 7: I think they will be a playoff team, all right.

877
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if I stated it, but the Broncos

878
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: are eight and a half. So Bill is banging the

879
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: over on the Denver Broncos. I think it checks out,

880
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: and I do think, thank you Wilson, Wilson didn't become a.

881
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: Terrible player overnight. Now I'm checking it off people.

882
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: That correctly pointed out Greg last year that you could

883
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: look at his final year in Seattle, for instance, and

884
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: that maybe this was a trend and he's going down

885
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 2: is a player. But I like the chances of him

886
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: being humbled with a better coach and a better situation, better.

887
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: Health around him. I don't know if I'm banging a

888
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: winning record for the bronc that's strong, though.

889
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 6: I don't know.

890
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 4: I'd like to go from last year's Nathaniel Hackett disaster

891
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: to Sean Payton is one of the bigger like coaching

892
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 4: adjustments that I can recall matter we've worked here. I

893
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 4: think Sean Payton's always gotten when we post Drew Brees,

894
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: He's still got the best out of every quarterback that

895
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 4: was under him. And I just think there's gonna be

896
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 4: a lot more organization here. The defense has been solid

897
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 4: all along. I think it's a it's an interesting and

898
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 4: daring and intriguing pick by Bill.

899
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: It is kind of it's why you have Bill on

900
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 3: because he thinks differently than most And no, no it's not.

901
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: I mean you're giving like original takes that we're not

902
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 3: hearing now. Sore. I think our listeners will remember over

903
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: Broncos as the Bill Barnwell team. I to me, there's

904
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: just so much uncertainty everywhere that eight and a half

905
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: makes sense. Like offensive lines are very hard to predict.

906
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: They have like a I don't know why, it weirds

907
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: me how they have like a first time offensive line

908
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 3: coaches Zach Streeve, like Vans, Joseph takes over the defense.

909
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 3: There's different parts of the defense which look good, but

910
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: to me, it's all very The whole team feels extremely unpredictable.

911
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 3: So I I to me over eight and a half

912
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 3: is a bet on Sean Payton, which over the years

913
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: is a great bet. But otherwise I don't know.

914
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: There we go, all right, So off with a bang.

915
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, you are up next.

916
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 6: This will not require too much analysis. This is I feel,

917
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 6: it's kind of what we do here, but I just don't.

918
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 6: I think it sort of speaks for itself.

919
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 3: We do have twelve picks, though. You're right, we're gonna

920
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: move it along.

921
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: Well, that's true also, but Andy Reid, since joining the

922
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs, the Chiefs have never gone under on

923
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: their win total. They've gone over every single year. They're

924
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 4: sitting at eleven and five. There are seventeen games in

925
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: a season.

926
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: I trust this eleven and a half. Yeah, eleven and

927
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 6: a half.

928
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: LES trust this team more than any team in the

929
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 4: league to go over, and it's just like an absolute

930
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 4: home run out of the park. I'm not even gonna

931
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 4: have to think about this again all season long. Barring

932
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: an injury to Patrick Mahomes, they're going over. They're not

933
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 4: winning eleven games they're winning twelve or more, no problems

934
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 4: that Who do you trust more coach quarterback combination in

935
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 4: the league.

936
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: I think it's a good pick.

937
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Sound, it's logic. It absolutely they check out.

938
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: You know, even when there are problems, they figure things out.

939
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: That's the thing about having an all time quarterback and

940
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: one of the great coaches. Ever, is there any red

941
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: flags bill to you that make this team potentially different?

942
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna have to worry about a

943
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: Super Bowl hangover here, don't sound Travis Kelcey is a

944
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: year older, but was as productive as ever last or

945
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: anything that's a red flag to you here.

946
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, they were a little lucky last year. They were

947
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 7: fourteen and three, but they had eleven point four Pythagore

948
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 7: and wins, so their point differential said they were running

949
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 7: pretty hot. Had a bunch of close victories. Beat the

950
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 7: Broncos in two close games tennes seeing over time, beat

951
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 7: the Chargers by three points, beat the Broncos by six,

952
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 7: Texans and overtime by six. You know, those are situations

953
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 7: where even with Patrick Mahomes, given the history, the Chiefs

954
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 7: have had tough to count on them winning so many

955
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 7: of the close games maybe some concerns about the offensive

956
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 7: line and you know, the new guys blooding in at tackle,

957
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 7: and the Travis Kelcey scenario where Travis kelce is suddenly

958
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 7: he gets old, which I don't think is going to happen,

959
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 7: but great players do age. It happens Travis Kelcey. Just

960
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 7: look at these aging but it is possible that he

961
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 7: could be, you know, just a good tight end as

962
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 7: opposed to a superstar tight end. Major questions about receiver.

963
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 7: But to me, I still think that the class of

964
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 7: the AFC West, and given the track record, like, yes,

965
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 7: I think there's a scenario where they don't win twelve games,

966
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 7: but it certainly doesn't feel like a bet where you're

967
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 7: you're risky as much. Just in fact, there's as much

968
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 7: downside for the Chiefs relative to pretty much any other

969
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 7: team in football, relative to their total.

970
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 6: Right, I'm not biting my nails on this one.

971
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 4: I think, like exactly, when you look at the Vike

972
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 4: so they won all those close games. You know, sure

973
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 4: you're thinking that's not probably sustainable, but there's a reason

974
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 4: that Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid win these close games.

975
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: Right, I think like they are like those Broncos and

976
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 3: Texans game. I think there is something that it's hard

977
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: to pull out from the numbers that like, it's not

978
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 3: just luck that they win close games against bad teams.

979
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: It's like they shouldn't have been in those close games.

980
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 3: But it's got kind of like the Patriots record in

981
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: close games, but close ones over the years.

982
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 7: I'll give you a good example. They lost to the

983
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 7: Colts last year. Yeah, true, like, except they had one

984
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 7: of those games last year where everything went wrong and

985
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 7: they lost. Maybe next year they have two, maybe they

986
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 7: even have three when they lose those games.

987
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: I got them over ten and a half last year.

988
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: They were only a ten and a half going into

989
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: the year ago. That's crazy.

990
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 2: I'll always think to like, Mark, you feeling comfortable. Of course,

991
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: I'll think about the playoff run with Mahomes and playing

992
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: through injury and the comeback to beat the Eagles. But

993
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: that November Sunday night game against the Chargers when the

994
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: Chargers sent Mahomes back on the field down for with

995
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: one forty six to go, and you just knew.

996
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: How the game was gonna end, Like it wasn't even

997
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: a question.

998
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, Patrick Mahomes is gonna throw a

999
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: touchdown pass to Travis Kelcey and they're gonna break the

1000
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 2: Chargers hearts.

1001
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: They there's a magic to this team with mahomes and controls.

1002
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk? Yo? Talk yo? There you go.

1003
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 6: But we got that guy on our side.

1004
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: We got him. What's up with Travis Kelcey?

1005
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: I mentioned this on the Hard Knocks podcast with Colleen

1006
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: Jeff Olbrich and Travis Kelcey have the same exact like

1007
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: white boy funk speaking pattern.

1008
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 4: It's exactly the same. I think he's evolved into that.

1009
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: I bet, I bet rookie year Travis Kelcey did not

1010
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: have that dialect.

1011
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: Do you have?

1012
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, Remember Travis Kelsey on that reality show.

1013
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 3: I guess he was a few years He doesn't like.

1014
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Talking about catching Kelsey. Here here's Olbrich, by the way, damn,

1015
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: And here's Travis Kelsey. Do you want to talk yo?

1016
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: Talk yo? Same guy, same guy.

1017
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 6: I enjoy it.

1018
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 7: A real Brian Kelly element to this, right.

1019
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: They're a little more convincing about it. They're they're a

1020
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: little better of it.

1021
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 4: I just want to tell you how proud I am

1022
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 4: to be third.

1023
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: You a third overall pick Okay, now I got it.

1024
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: Third overall pick is me.

1025
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: I've been kind of pounding the drum on this one

1026
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: a little bit that I in a wildly competitive competitive

1027
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: AFC North potentially I like the Browns.

1028
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: I like the Browns.

1029
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: At nine and a half, I'm hitting the over on

1030
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 2: the Browns, and it's just like, tell me what you

1031
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: don't like about this roster. It's a good offensive line,

1032
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: the best pure running back, good skill players. The quarterback

1033
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: is the big question, but again, I think he's a

1034
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: better chance that he comes back strong than is the

1035
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: guy he was at the end of last year. I

1036
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: think the Browns are a double digit win team. I

1037
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: think they could win ten. I think they can win

1038
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: eleven if everything broke right. I think they could even

1039
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: do better than that. So I'm pounding the table there

1040
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: on the over at nine and a half.

1041
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: Wow.

1042
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: You know, I felt very strongly this morning when I

1043
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 4: was reviewing this to go under.

1044
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: Uh I still could.

1045
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: I mean, now that's not taken, that's true, I really

1046
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 4: do I I don't. I think it's the like the

1047
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 4: years of Brown's disquiet inside of me, but I just

1048
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 4: sense like roster looks really solid. Andrew Barry did a

1049
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 4: nice job showing up the defensive line. They improved that

1050
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 4: wide receiver to some degree, and yet we're still getting

1051
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: whispers and reports out of camp that the passing game

1052
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 4: has been totally disjointed.

1053
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

1054
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: I think it's a it's a wait and see what

1055
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 4: this offense looks like. And I you know, I've been

1056
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: a Kevin Stefanski fan for the most part, but just

1057
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: something about this journey feels like they're not going to

1058
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 4: add up to some of their parts.

1059
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 6: So we'll see. Dan, this is a very interesting one.

1060
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: The like I know, like football outsiders loves brown Do

1061
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 3: you do you like that? He sounded like you like

1062
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: the Browns too.

1063
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 7: Bill, I do. I'm absolutely on the Browns Bagwacken this year.

1064
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: And he still doesn't.

1065
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 7: Bill doesn't feel great, not gonna lie to be on

1066
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 7: the Browns bandwagon. Ten is a big number, especially in

1067
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 7: that division. It feels like that is a big number.

1068
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 7: But there's little things that keep happening as the officer

1069
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 7: goes on, like a little bit of research I do,

1070
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 7: or an injury that happens where I feel a little

1071
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 7: better about it, like when the Ravens lost Rolin Humphrey

1072
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 7: to an injury. I was like, hmmm, that kind of

1073
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 7: helps the Browns a little bit. Yeah, you know, the

1074
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 7: Rester was doing on the Bengals, where they face the

1075
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 7: lowest percentage of primary quarterbacks last year, they played backups

1076
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 7: and third strings more often than anybody else in football,

1077
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 7: and they have a new secondary coming in almost in

1078
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 7: total kind of made me feel like the Bengals are

1079
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 7: a little exposed. The Steelers they didn't play it, they played,

1080
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 7: They had a better record than their numbers last year.

1081
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 7: It all kind of feels like it's coming together to me.

1082
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 7: So I understand the concerns, but I'm absolutely optimistic about

1083
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 7: the Browns this year.

1084
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 3: Still, I'm still thinking about taking that Browns under from

1085
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: Zach Jackson at the Athletic yesterday. Stock Down from camp,

1086
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 3: the passing game has been completely unimpressive. Anything that involves

1087
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 3: the Shawn Watson remaining the pocket has been an adventure,

1088
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: and not since early in camp have we seen strings

1089
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: of consecutive completions in any eleven on eleven period. I

1090
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: think the consensus has been because it makes sense that

1091
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 3: that Watson does bounce back to being a good player.

1092
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: But I think there's absolutely I think it's within the

1093
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 3: realm of possibility that this Stevanski Watson marriage is a disaster,

1094
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: and there is a brownsiness of it all that I

1095
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 3: think Mark's kind of alluding to that. I think could

1096
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 3: could happen just because people are worried about their jobs.

1097
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: There's coach in quarterback with different agendas, there's the GM,

1098
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: There's a lot going on so that I.

1099
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: Don't think it's a slam stay.

1100
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: I just think it's more likely that they're this than

1101
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: the brownsiness of it takes over and Football Almanac has

1102
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: him at ten and a half way Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1103
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: they're feeling good about it. Aaron shall go wrong. Does

1104
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: that feel like I just jinxed them? I don't mean too.

1105
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 6: No, I don't.

1106
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 4: I don't think we even have the power to affect

1107
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: what they can do themselves in a negative way.

1108
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: I disagree with that as well.

1109
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 3: Right, all right, I'm gonna start this one hurts because

1110
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 3: I do generally kind of like the Panthers. I'm going

1111
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 3: under Panthers seven and a half, the first under as

1112
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: my first pick. I don't know what it says about me,

1113
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: but I do have more unders on this potential list.

1114
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 7: Interesting.

1115
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: I just think When you look at a lot of

1116
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 3: the things people like about the Panthers, it's all assumptions

1117
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: based on last year. And there's this weird thing people

1118
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: assume there's this carryover when there's a different coaching staff

1119
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: that I don't assume. Their offensive line played surprisingly well

1120
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: last year. Both their guards are coming off really serious injuries.

1121
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 3: One still not back on the field. They're left tackle

1122
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 3: Iki Khan. You know, you assume he's gonna get better.

1123
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: We'll see. He was not good at all. He was

1124
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: really bad in the preseason opener. It's a new defense,

1125
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 3: like I like a Giro Everro on paper, but I

1126
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: when you're counting on the defense to be so good,

1127
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 3: I don't like that. It's a new coordinator. And then

1128
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 3: you look at their best player, Brian Burns is coming

1129
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 3: off an injury. Their best cornerback, J C. Horn, has

1130
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 3: basically been injured most of his time there. There's just

1131
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: a lot of uncertainty, and I don't see where the

1132
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: team's strength is. There's kind of nothing I like as

1133
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: better than average. There over under is seven and a half.

1134
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 3: You gotta get to eight wins. I know the schedule

1135
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: is definitely the thing in their favor All the AFC

1136
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 3: NFC south Over unders are high because the schedule in

1137
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 3: and out of division is easy, it's still pretty tough

1138
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: to get to eight wins. And I just don't see

1139
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: anything that's good about this team. I think they're on paper,

1140
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: the fourth best team in the in the worst division

1141
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: in football, and to me, that's that's not eight wins under.

1142
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: Good one.

1143
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 6: Don't hate it.

1144
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: Bill disagrees.

1145
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, this isn't one where like cause I went to

1146
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: look at football outsiders after I wrote these all down,

1147
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 3: like which ones are they on board with me on

1148
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 3: which one they're not? And this one not a crazy amount,

1149
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: probably because the schedule.

1150
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 7: I mean, the two most important things about a football

1151
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 7: team are their quarterback and their head coach. And I

1152
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 7: have think that the Panthers are going to be better

1153
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 7: in those situations than they were a year ago. I

1154
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 7: mean they were seven and ten last year, correct, Yeah,

1155
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 7: I mean they were.

1156
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 3: I think there once rule was out of there, they

1157
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: they were coached fairly well. But you're right, Bryce Young

1158
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 3: should be better. But he's still a rookie, so I

1159
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: guess my expectations for him are not incredibly high either.

1160
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 7: No, not incredibly high, but could he be better than

1161
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 7: Sam Darnold and bigger Mayfield? Is that is that? I

1162
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 7: don't know what possible.

1163
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 6: I think the organization would like that to be the case.

1164
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 7: So too, I'm more optimistic about the defense than I

1165
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 7: think Greg guys, I think like an easier Effort was

1166
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 7: a good coach in Denver. They were really good for

1167
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 7: most of the season. They had some young players come through,

1168
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 7: but he was getting production and of guys like Baron

1169
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 7: Browning who were not on my radar heading into the season.

1170
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 7: For the Broncos, they have talent. I think Jase Horn

1171
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 7: the injuries are legitimate concerned, but he's been a star

1172
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 7: cornerback to me when he's been healthy. And I think

1173
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 7: if they had had j C. Horn in that Bucks

1174
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 7: game where Mike Kevian's caught three long touchdown passes against

1175
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 7: backup cornerbacks, I think they would have won the division.

1176
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 7: I think we was that big of a difference maker

1177
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 7: for them a year ago. So I think the baseline

1178
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 7: is a little higher than Greg's giving them credit for.

1179
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 7: I think the quarterback and head coaching situation is better.

1180
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 7: I love Frank Right. I think he's a really good coach.

1181
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 7: I think He's a guy who can, you know, get

1182
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 7: the most out of his quarterbacks very quickly and build

1183
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 7: an offense around that quarterback strengths very quickly. And I

1184
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 7: think the defense is more upside than maybe had shown

1185
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 7: over the past year. So there is signficitely.

1186
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 3: Feels like a HI team to me, so much like

1187
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: because they're in that division. Yeah, you're right, and they

1188
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: could win nine games, but I also could see them

1189
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 3: having like the number one pick in the draft. Again,

1190
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: I feel like that's in their range of outcomes. So

1191
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: any team like that, I'm going to go under seven

1192
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 3: and a half.

1193
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: All right, So did we decide? Is Bill up? You're

1194
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: up with?

1195
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 7: I got a lot of unders here here on the list.

1196
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 7: I got to pick one of them. I feel bad

1197
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 7: picking this one because everyone has been so happy and

1198
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 7: excited about them. I'm going Lions under.

1199
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

1200
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 6: I love it.

1201
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: I love it. Is that the first steal by anybody.

1202
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 7: I I even though I agree with the Browns one,

1203
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 7: I did not have Browns over nine and a half

1204
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 7: of my list, so I I totally abide by it.

1205
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: But the first Still, I have my.

1206
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 7: Concerns about how sustainable that performance was for the Lions

1207
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 7: during that big winning streak to end this season. This

1208
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 7: is a team that over that final eleven game stretch

1209
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 7: of the year they went eight and three. They turned

1210
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 7: the ball over a total of four times four times

1211
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 7: in eleven games. That is very helpful if you want

1212
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 7: to win a bunch of football games. It is not

1213
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 7: something they can keep up year after year. Now. I

1214
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 7: like what they did this offseason. I think they had

1215
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 7: to upgrade the secondary, and they did, but Emmanuel Mosley

1216
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 7: is still on the pup. I believe they got Cam Sutton,

1217
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 7: who I think is a really talented player. Chohncey Gardner

1218
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 7: Johnson had not been that caliber of player. Let's trying

1219
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 7: to figure out if he's going to play safety or

1220
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 7: play in the spot they like Brian branch Or second

1221
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 7: round pick. I think he's going to be a good player.

1222
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 7: But a lot of moving pieces in the secondary. I

1223
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 7: don't know if they have a settled group yet. And

1224
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 7: they did not go out and mad a second pass

1225
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 7: rusher behind Aidan Hutchinson. They did not go out and

1226
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 7: add a second wide receiver to replace Jamison Williams who

1227
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 7: suspended and now injured as well. It's not going to

1228
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 7: play during the preseason it sounds like they signed David Montgomery,

1229
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 7: who I don't think is very good. I think this

1230
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 7: is a competitive team, but I think the NFC North

1231
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 7: is going to be tougher than maybe people seem right now,

1232
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,879
Speaker 7: and so I'm comfortable going undred nine and a half

1233
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 7: the Lions this year.

1234
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the hope is that the defense is

1235
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: way sure, way better. But you're right, I mean at all,

1236
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: I didn't I don't have I don't have I certainly

1237
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 3: don't have their over on my list, and I'm I'm

1238
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 3: hoping for it and I'm thinking it. But all the

1239
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 3: points you make are are fair. I think their route

1240
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,959
Speaker 3: to winning ten to eleven games is it's a top

1241
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 3: it's an above average defense, which would be a huge upgrade.

1242
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 3: I do like you mentioned not adding a second passer.

1243
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 3: I do like their defensive line depth. Overall, I actually

1244
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 3: think it's a good group. All right, that's fair, Mark,

1245
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 3: You're up.

1246
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 6: All right.

1247
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 4: I'm really struggling between two things. I love here, but

1248
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do something, uh that historically I feel like

1249
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: I get bounced for this, but I'm going Baltimore Ravens.

1250
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,439
Speaker 4: They're at ten point ten and a half, ten point

1251
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: five I'm going under which says they can win ten games.

1252
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 6: I'm not. I'm not like trying to totally fade the races.

1253
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: You have your enemy sure to be my.

1254
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 6: Enemy, like I mean I have.

1255
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 4: They've done nothing, but you know, torch my existence for

1256
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: like literally since they were birthed out of the womb

1257
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 4: of the Cleveland Browns.

1258
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 6: So how much worse can it get? Here's the thing.

1259
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 4: I think there's this assumption or perception that we're just

1260
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 4: gonna get the same Ravens defense that we've gotten for

1261
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: so so long. I think some questions there. We just

1262
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 4: talked about it. With the Marlin Humphrey injury, could be

1263
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 4: out for the start of the season. Their cornerback depth

1264
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 4: is a problem to begin with, edge rusher, what's.

1265
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:23,240
Speaker 6: Going on there?

1266
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 4: And you know the whole like Lamar Jackson look at me,

1267
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw for six thousand yards. I know it

1268
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 4: was tongue in chief to some degree, but that's a

1269
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 4: huge uh.

1270
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1271
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 4: Will I'll see it when I believe it. With what

1272
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: happens through this offense. They did need to make a

1273
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 4: change from Greg Roman. I think just for the morale

1274
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 4: of some of the players on that side of the ball.

1275
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 4: You've added Odell, You've got some nice pieces of wide receiver.

1276
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 4: There is hope there, but I don't know if that

1277
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 4: all comes together right away. I think you're in a

1278
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 4: really top heavy, rough and tumble division inside a really

1279
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 4: boiling AFC, and the Ravens, to me, are not one

1280
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 4: of the two or three teams that stands out they're

1281
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 4: gonna get this all together. I think Lamar Jackson believe

1282
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 4: in them a lot, but injuries about two years in

1283
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: a row sabotage them. I just I just feel like

1284
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 4: ten wins feels comfortable to me. If this were nine

1285
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 4: and a half, I'd really struggle with it. But ten

1286
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 4: and a half, I don't see them going eleven. So

1287
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 4: I'm comfortably taking the Ravens under.

1288
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 7: The only thing I would say is they do have

1289
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 7: a Pro Bowl backup at quarterback and Tyler Huntley.

1290
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 6: Which is that is a very good point.

1291
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's hurt.

1292
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the weirdest storylines of the offseason though,

1293
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 3: is like it doesn't seem like John Harba likes Tyler Huntley,

1294
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 3: like they don't want to want them on their team,

1295
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: Like I actually think he might not make their team.

1296
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: That they'll trade him for like a late round pick,

1297
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: just because he's trying to make Josh Johnson win that

1298
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 3: job over him. It sounds like that it's been an

1299
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 3: open competition. He's hurt right now. Anyways, very compelling, Mark, hmmm.

1300
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: All right, buy it.

1301
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: I'm up next. I'll do one under as well. All right,

1302
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm out of the Bucks. I'm going

1303
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: under on the Bucks six and a half six.

1304
00:57:58,760 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1305
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: I know it's but you know it's it's a situation

1306
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: that I don't I don't love the QB head coach

1307
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: situation there. I think I think the offensive line declined

1308
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: last year, and now you don't have Brady firing it

1309
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 2: out in you know, half a second anymore. The defense

1310
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 2: is a little bit older. We could talk about the

1311
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: defense because I'm curious what you guys think about what

1312
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 2: you'll get from them. Their special teams has been bad.

1313
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: And then you have the Baker and the Kyle TRASKI

1314
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: of it all. Baker is gonna be the week one quarterback.

1315
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: Baker loves the hold on to the ball. You have

1316
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: Mike Evans there, obviously, you have you have a Godwin there.

1317
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 2: There's those dudes are gonna get some numbers, but I

1318
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: think it's more likely this time next year, we're talking

1319
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: about Todd Bowles ancient history, Baker and Trask ancient history.

1320
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: This is a transition year where they they drop a

1321
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: five and twelve on us here and they get a

1322
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: quarterback in the draft, and they're rebooting the whole operation.

1323
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: So you can make a case that they can hang

1324
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: around in that division. I'm gonna say there as a

1325
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: team that's gonna take a step back there, and it's

1326
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: going to be them.

1327
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: I got the bucks.

1328
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 4: Under I just wonder I'll add one little point that

1329
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 4: that puts me on your side. I don't think it's

1330
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 4: that hard to go over in terms of just maybe

1331
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 4: winning a couple of games they don't deserve to win.

1332
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 4: Uh So I was I'm kind of tempting on both sides,

1333
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 4: but I don't like the combination of the quarterbacks with

1334
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 4: Todd Bowles has always sort of struggled. I think to

1335
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 4: find like that play caller and like Dave Canalis. He

1336
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 4: was Gino Smith's QB coach a year ago, but he's

1337
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 4: never called plays and that matters to me. I mean,

1338
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 4: I think you when you hear long time offensive coordinators

1339
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 4: talk about the first year they had to do that Situationally,

1340
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 4: they like, you've just never been in this situation. Not

1341
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: that he hasn't, maybe, you know, behind the scenes, gained

1342
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 4: some experience, but the whole combination right there feels like

1343
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 4: it's ripe for underwhelming results on offense and maybe a

1344
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 4: potential disaster.

1345
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: Mm.

1346
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 7: I like Todd Bowles. His game management last year was disgusting.

1347
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: Hey, we all like Todd Bowles.

1348
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 7: Hey, Bill, They got away with so many backs and

1349
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 7: played in the games last year. It was I sickened

1350
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 7: looking back at some of those games and when they

1351
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 7: punted late in games and still managed to win. The

1352
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,480
Speaker 7: Saints game I think was the classic one where they

1353
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 7: did not serve for their single second to win. Yes,

1354
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 7: that's my concern is now it's Baker Mayfield or Kyle Trask.

1355
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 7: The only thing I would say about this is like

1356
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 7: six and a half is not a big number. No,

1357
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 7: But it's just hard. It's hard for me to imagine

1358
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 7: a lot of people going to Las Vegas or going

1359
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 7: on their online sports but sitting there going through the

1360
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 7: numbers and saying, hmmm, I feel good about betting on

1361
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trash to win seventyeams.

1362
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,479
Speaker 3: People, we're gonna be hammering that under.

1363
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:40,320
Speaker 7: It kind of feels like a trapped to me a

1364
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 7: little bit.

1365
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I understand that.

1366
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 2: And what I meant with Bowles there is like I

1367
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: think we all, including Jets fans, gave Todd Bowles a

1368
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: pass for what happened in East Rutherford. But now you

1369
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: look at his you know, six years in, he's thirty

1370
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 2: two and forty nine and been to the playoffs once

1371
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: and lost, and the playoff was one of the worst

1372
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 2: playoff teams in recent memories.

1373
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: Sub five hundred team that won the division last year

1374
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, with Tom Brady.

1375
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: So it's like, and then I know, as Tom Brady

1376
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: was to the here's the I guess the other way to.

1377
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 3: Look at the championship coordinator at some incredible as a coordinator, but.

1378
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 2: You're right, great coordinator. Tom Brady last year was at

1379
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: best the league average quarterback. So maybe the drop off

1380
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 2: isn't as steep as people might think, but still it's

1381
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: gonna be a drop off. And like, I get super

1382
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: noivous about a head coach that hasn't gotten results and

1383
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: a potential disastrous quarterback pairing in our league.

1384
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty twenty three.

1385
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: The only case for them and why I flipped them

1386
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 3: in Carolina and already went under, is just they do

1387
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 3: have good play. Like they have good players on their team,

1388
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 3: Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Tristan Wurf's, Vita Vea, Devin White, Levanta,

1389
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 3: David Shack Barrett, like they Jamel Dean, like they antonin Winfieldy.

1390
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 3: They have a lot of good players on their team,

1391
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 3: which a lot of these teams that like are in

1392
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 3: that six and a half seven five, you know over

1393
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 3: runner don't really have good players or many good players.

1394
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: So I just feel like maybe that adds up, But

1395
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 3: I don't feel good about that, should we?

1396
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 7: Just I wanted to see how many how many players

1397
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 7: Greig would keep daming finish the sentence, just like that's

1398
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 7: a lot.

1399
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 3: That's a lot, though, Ryan Jensen, there you go.

1400
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 7: Ran.

1401
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 2: It's like when the in the movie when they're tracing

1402
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 2: the call and the police saying to the person.

1403
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 6: Like keep talking, keep talking, keep talking, keep Yeah, I

1404
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 6: know we got it quick.

1405
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 3: I'll go next with Gregg's up.

1406
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: Next thing, we want to do three rounds instead of four? Yeah,

1407
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: this is what happened last All right, we're gonna do

1408
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: three pets this year. Okay, so keep that.

1409
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 7: Should we just do it? Can we just do a

1410
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 7: lightning round?

1411
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1412
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 5: Well yeah, last year it was three rounds and then

1413
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 5: a speed round. We're the exact same people. Every single light.

1414
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 6: Rounds go on for fifty two minutes.

1415
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: Just to let you know, give us a give us

1416
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: eight o'clock the light when we get to the lighting round, gotcha?

1417
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: All right?

1418
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 3: All right, go in the second round. Your second round

1419
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 3: pick is I'm gonna go Bills over ten and a half.

1420
01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 3: I just I get the schedule in that. That's why

1421
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 3: why it's low. I get the reason the rest of

1422
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: the division is good. I get people are bored of

1423
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 3: the Bills. But like the Chiefs, I do like that.

1424
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: You know, they've been so consistently successful. Thirteen wins a

1425
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 3: year ago, eleven, the year before thirteen, the year before.

1426
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's in his prime, the coaches in his prime.

1427
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 3: There's a lot of continuity, and so I just feel

1428
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: like I feel safe in their hands, kind of like

1429
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 3: you did with the Chiefs. Maybe not as safe because

1430
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: don't think they're gonna win thirteen this year, but I

1431
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 3: man to do it. Can I see them going ten

1432
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 3: and seven? I think that's pretty unlikely. And so to me,

1433
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 3: eleven or twelve wins in them still being the best

1434
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 3: team in the AFCs is the most likely outcome. Doesn't

1435
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 3: mean it's gonna happen, but to me, it's the most likely.

1436
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 2: To get to eleven or twelve, you probably got to

1437
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 2: go what like probably four and two in the division, right,

1438
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 2: doable by that and then take care of the business

1439
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:56,760
Speaker 2: and the rest of it.

1440
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: In the out of division schedule.

1441
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: The auto division schedules tough, and I see all the weaknesses.

1442
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:05,479
Speaker 3: I just think there's been a kind of looking past

1443
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: the strengths. And I I'm a big fan of continuity.

1444
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 3: When your players are actually good and they have it

1445
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: and then most teams don't, you can start off the

1446
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 3: season a little faster than other teams.

1447
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, thirteen wins last year with an injured Josh All

1448
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 7: Half to see passer rating by eighteen points after the

1449
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 7: elbow injuries.

1450
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: Yah Von Miller back. At some point you know your

1451
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 3: your secondary is much healthier going into the season.

1452
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 4: Like and I'm guilty of this, but I feel like

1453
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 4: we've all like there's a little bit of bills. Fatigue, Yeah, fatigue, exhaustion.

1454
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 4: Like it's like, I want to just project something different.

1455
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: For the the KC pick that you had, it's a

1456
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 2: similar vibe some people like they're not gonna win twelve again,

1457
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 2: or we're sick of seeing them win.

1458
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 3: To be there a little like the Chiefs were a

1459
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 3: year ago at this time where people were a little

1460
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 3: sick of the Chiefs, and there it's still Josh Allen

1461
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 3: and Sean McDermott, who I believe in no question.

1462
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm there, by the way, not to because we got

1463
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: to keep rolling here. But the you know what's fun

1464
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 2: is the franchise encyclopedia for the Chiefs.

1465
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 6: Let's read the entire thing on air right now here.

1466
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 2: It is Romeo Crenell two and fourteen in twenty twelve,

1467
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 2: Andy Reid comes. Okay, this is years before Patrick Mahomes

1468
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: eleven and five. I'll just do the wins eleven, nine, eleven, twelve, ten,

1469
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: Then Patrick Mahomes arrives, twelve, Super Bowl or lost the

1470
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: conference game, twelve won the Super Bowl, fourteen lost the

1471
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, twelve lost the Conference game, fourteen won the

1472
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.

1473
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 4: That's what I mean, Like they've been the over every

1474
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 4: year that he's been there.

1475
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm giving some more juice to your heat.

1476
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, that's why it's a total sports lock.

1477
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: Or more heat to your juice, like a steaming juice.

1478
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 6: That sounds thus appealing.

1479
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: Let's move on, Phil, Phil Third pick.

1480
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 7: God talking about the Chiefs. Let's take the team they

1481
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 7: played in the Super Bowl and project them to go under.

1482
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,160
Speaker 3: Oh now that's spicy.

1483
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: By the way, your last two picks you've gotten after

1484
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,120
Speaker 2: Greg's two favorite teams, the Lions and the Eagles, and

1485
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: that's not But it has to be the Patriots, has

1486
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 2: to be Bills.

1487
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 6: That's why he's a great guest.

1488
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1489
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 7: I am here strictly to antagonize Greg. That is the primary.

1490
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 3: Reason total rivals ever since I showed up to like

1491
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 3: a football outsiders meet up at a bar in New

1492
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 3: York in two thousand and seven.

1493
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: Weird what happens to guys? Leather jackets pipe?

1494
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 3: It can only be one?

1495
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 7: Sorry Greg, Greg? Greg, beat the hell outed me? Is

1496
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 7: what it boils sound too?

1497
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1498
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 7: No, no, of course it is a They're a good

1499
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 7: team and they're not going to go like six and eleven.

1500
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 7: I don't think they're going to be a bad team

1501
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 7: by any means, but let's go over what they did

1502
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 7: last year, six and one in games decided by seven

1503
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 7: points or less, the healthiest team in football for football

1504
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 7: outsiders adjusted games lost metric, an issue they're already dealing

1505
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 7: with this year. Saw Hassan Redding is having thumb surgery,

1506
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 7: I believe, and he's I believe, going to be around

1507
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 7: for Week one, but that could impact a great player

1508
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 7: for them. And we know they lost a ton of

1509
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 7: talent this hostage, and it was both coordinators, it was

1510
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 7: five starters on defense, both safeties, both starting linebackers. Javon Hargrave,

1511
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 7: their best defensive lineman goes to the forty nine ers.

1512
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,760
Speaker 7: There's still plenty of talent here, but this is a

1513
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 7: team that you know injuries have impacted them dramatically in

1514
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 7: years prior twenty twenty one. I think they started thirteen

1515
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 7: offensive linemen or thirteen offensive liven to play fifty stats

1516
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 7: or more in twenty twenty one. They were healthy last year,

1517
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 7: which is great. Obviously a dominant offensive line, but I

1518
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 7: think they take a step backwards in terms of health,

1519
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 7: in terms of talent, they are not as sucky in

1520
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 7: close games. I think they are a ten or eleven

1521
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 7: win team this year, and that might open up the

1522
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 7: NFC East for the Cowboys.

1523
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 6: Wow, spicy.

1524
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 3: I still think their depth is better than most teams,

1525
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 3: so you could survive. And I do think there's actually

1526
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 3: more they can get out of the passing game with

1527
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 3: Brown and DeVonta Smith. So yeah, going to be to me,

1528
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 3: they're the favorites to make the Super Bowl, and so

1529
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,919
Speaker 3: that number is not crazy. Eleven and a half is tough, though.

1530
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: Eleven and a half is tough for any team in

1531
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: a tough division that's playing the AFCA staut Of Division,

1532
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 3: even if they're great. You know, twelve in five would

1533
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 3: be a great season for them, So you're barely clearing it.

1534
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: Issen asked me when I was on a show yesterday,

1535
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 2: who is the team that people aren't really talking about enough?

1536
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: And I said, this is going to sound crazy, but

1537
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys, and Eisen looked at me on live

1538
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 2: television and radio like at an elbow growing out of

1539
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 2: my forehead.

1540
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 6: Well, you sound like a psycho.

1541
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 3: That is weird.

1542
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: People are talking about them, but not talking about them

1543
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: in the way that Bill is alluding to that they

1544
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 2: could win that division, that they have the ability if

1545
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 2: the Eagles come down a little bit, that there's pieces

1546
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: in place and could be a fun division race, which

1547
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of.

1548
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: People are talking about.

1549
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, that's fair.

1550
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 3: Actually, I think they're the best two rosters, just pure

1551
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 3: rosters in the in the NFC.

1552
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: Mark your pick number three.

1553
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 6: I just want to.

1554
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 3: Say to the group that I absolutely love my draft.

1555
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 3: I I think that I sat a fourth round. Don't

1556
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: don't well.

1557
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: Done half your pick so far?

1558
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 4: Well, I'm about to give you my third right now.

1559
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 4: They sit at eight point five, and I think it's

1560
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: not accounting for how juicy they will be, that they'll be.

1561
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 4: Everyone talking about last year is Detroit Lions. This year

1562
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 4: is Atlanta Falcons, who continually stack up more wins than

1563
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 4: anyone expects under Arthur Smith.

1564
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 6: Year after year.

1565
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 4: It's not been like, let's down, I'm not when I

1566
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 4: feel comedy stack wins. I think I think last year

1567
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 4: they were seven. They surprised last year people are just

1568
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 4: counting them out eight point five in that division in

1569
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 4: an NFC, that's sort of a milk toast. They are

1570
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 4: under Arthur Smith, going to punish teams. There are questions

1571
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 4: at quarterback, but I think they did a great job

1572
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 4: retaining their all, keeping their offensive line together. They added

1573
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 4: parts all over the place on a defense that needed help.

1574
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 4: That's a little bit of a wildcard, but I like

1575
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 4: what they did on defense. It wasn't a sort of

1576
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 4: a dream team type splurge. It makes sense what they did.

1577
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 4: I think that you've got guys like Drake London, you

1578
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 4: get a bounce back year from Kyle Pitts. You're not

1579
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 4: putting so much pressure on Desmond Ridder because I think

1580
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 4: this is a team that they showed in the past

1581
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 4: and they're gonna do it again with Bejon Robinson. They're

1582
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: gonna run the ball down people's throats and in this NFL,

1583
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: if you can do some of those things, if you're

1584
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 4: strong upfront on offense, eight and a half wins is

1585
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 4: not too much to ask.

1586
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 6: I think they're gonna get to nine. I think they're

1587
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 6: gonna win that Divisi like to.

1588
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 2: Find bounce back season for Kyle Pitts because it wasn't

1589
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: his fault last year that they couldn't even throw the.

1590
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 4: Ball straight up or just say healthy like he wasn't healthy.

1591
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: But I mean, I like they had the metrics of

1592
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 2: like you know, no, nobody got more off target passes

1593
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 2: than the Kyle Pitts.

1594
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that would be better.

1595
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 4: That's that's also I think that was I would say

1596
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 4: that's more Mariota than it was Ridder.

1597
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 6: I thought Ridder.

1598
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't have high hopes for him, but

1599
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 4: in each of his starts he got a little bit better.

1600
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 4: It was a lot to ask to throw him in

1601
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 4: there at the at the end of the year, they

1602
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 4: have incredible confidence in him. They're seeing more than we are.

1603
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 4: I haven't seen it all on the field. That's the

1604
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 4: next factor. But again, you can you can get to

1605
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,799
Speaker 4: nine wins with the way that team is composed.

1606
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 3: I love this one. It's on my long list. It

1607
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 3: wasn't quite quite a steal because I don't I don't

1608
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 3: think it would have made my top four. But I

1609
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 3: don't get if you know, we're not allowed to wager.

1610
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: We signed the gambling policy at the NFL. I have

1611
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 3: till August thirty first, you have till August thirty four.

1612
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 3: I don't get why the Falcons are a game lower

1613
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,400
Speaker 3: than the Saints, like I kind of like them both

1614
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 3: to have winning records this year. For a lot of

1615
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 3: the reasons. That you said, Ritter is a concern. But man,

1616
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be a pretty good offense and

1617
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 3: a great, great schedule.

1618
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm just I guess I'm not pounding any overs when

1619
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 2: I don't believe in the quarterback position.

1620
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: For a team.

1621
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,799
Speaker 6: Fair that's that's your prerogative.

1622
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 2: Is that, Oh it's my turn. I don't like the

1623
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 2: vibes in Tennessee. I think that it's it's time. Uh,

1624
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 2: you never faded the big dog, as Evan Silva says,

1625
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry and a lot of people faded the big

1626
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: dog last year and he had another representative Derrick Henry season.

1627
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: Is it possible that he could do it again?

1628
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: Of course, but they have a bad offensive line, not

1629
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,800
Speaker 2: a great pass catcher, set up an aging quarterback who

1630
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 2: struggles to stay healthy, especially.

1631
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: If he's getting beaten. I like Vrable a lot.

1632
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: I think coaching really matters and gets these teams those

1633
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 2: extra wins.

1634
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: This is seven and a half. Seven and a half

1635
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:19,759
Speaker 1: is the number.

1636
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 2: I wish it was six and a half, but that's

1637
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:27,879
Speaker 2: how it works. This feels like in a best case scenario.

1638
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 2: Best all right, best case scenario.

1639
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm confused. Are you going over or under.

1640
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 2: Under in a best case scenario, I think this team

1641
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 2: goes nine to eight absolute best case scenario. Worst case scenario,

1642
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: wheels fall off, and this team could be picking in

1643
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: the top five in the draft. So I think this

1644
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: feels to me like a seven and ten, six and

1645
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 2: eleven type Titan season most likely with it could get

1646
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 2: much worse than that. I feel good about it because

1647
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: I don't feel good about a lot of things with

1648
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: this team, and the Traylon Barks thing is not great yet.

1649
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, they the wheels fell off last season, so they

1650
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 4: spent all off seasons trying to put them back on

1651
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 4: and they really didn't do much and their offensive line

1652
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 4: is arguably the worst in the league. I don't I

1653
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 4: am comfortable going under with you on that. I'm agreed

1654
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 4: I should mention the Hopkins of it all, and I

1655
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 4: mean that we'll see if he's a difference maker at

1656
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 4: this stage, but I have I'm dubious of that as well.

1657
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't feel good about it, but I had to

1658
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 3: actually think I'd go over on the Titans because of

1659
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 3: what Bill said earlier. Quarterback and coach. I still believe

1660
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 3: in Tannehill a as a asset and I really believe

1661
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,759
Speaker 3: in Rabel, and more importantly, I really think that defense

1662
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 3: man it looks pretty great. Like I like their defensive line.

1663
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 3: That they had a lot of injuries last year, there's

1664
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 3: just something about them that I can't imagine them falling apart.

1665
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 7: So I would go over, I've got a stat for you.

1666
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 7: I'll just say this, let's see it. I don't have

1667
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 7: a strong opinion about this one, Tennessee. I did hold

1668
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 7: you earlier. I sting research on quarterbacks and how often

1669
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 7: teams played the opposing team's primary quarterbacks, So either your

1670
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 7: starter or in the case like the Steelers, you know,

1671
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 7: playing Kenny Pickett as opposed to Mitch t Bisky. The

1672
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 7: only team in the NFL that played the other team's

1673
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 7: number one quarterbacks seventeen weeks last year, Tennessee Titans. They

1674
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 7: played it at five passion times last year against backup quarterbacks,

1675
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 7: all of which in garbage time. Typical team, about twenty

1676
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 7: five percent of your opposing STAPs are going to come

1677
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 7: against backup quarterbacks. In the NFL, teams in the ninety

1678
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 7: percent range improved by about two and a half wins

1679
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 7: the following season. Tennessee is are like ninety nine.

1680
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: I pretty good.

1681
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 7: I I can see the arguments. I'm just I've been

1682
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 7: burned so many times by Mike Brabell. It had to

1683
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 7: pick like his entire team getting injured last year for

1684
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 7: me to finally look smart about fading Tennessee. So I

1685
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 7: see the arguments. To me, this is one I would

1686
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 7: just stay away from.

1687
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 2: I would just say this feel like everything fell apart

1688
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: from him. But what did they do? I mean just

1689
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 2: being healthy that's going to be enough because they didn't

1690
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 2: make huge gains.

1691
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: I thought in terms of personnel here.

1692
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 7: They were last last of my off season rankings, in

1693
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 7: terms of what they did this offseason, did not like

1694
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 7: what they did. They got a little better after writing Hopkins.

1695
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 7: I think that helped. Even if he's not the DeAndre Hopkins,

1696
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 7: you know he's he's better than Mick Westbrook Akine like,

1697
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 7: I think that's a big upgrade. But no question.

1698
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 1: Popping the stats there got that.

1699
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 6: That was a fireball metric that you just lost.

1700
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 7: It just got my just just wanted Devil's advocate went

1701
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 7: out there.

1702
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: That's good, all right, Greg, your third pick, and then

1703
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 1: we got to eight o'clock to light.

1704
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 3: Okay, my number one overall draft pick last year was

1705
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 3: under billt Bears six and a half and they didn't

1706
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: get above three. And I didn't hear any of those

1707
01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 3: honking Bears fans who came at me when I picked

1708
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 3: them with my number one overall pick coming back and

1709
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 3: saying sorry at the end of the season. And so

1710
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 3: I'm wrapping up at least the long portion of the

1711
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 3: draft by going under on the Bears again.

1712
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 1: At seven and a half.

1713
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,280
Speaker 3: I was reading the camp report and they were like

1714
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 3: talking about who's the camp MVP this and they're like, well,

1715
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 3: clearly DJ Moore is by far the best player on

1716
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 3: this team. And I was like, is that a good team?

1717
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 3: A team that DJ Moore is the best player on

1718
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:09,960
Speaker 3: the team, And then.

1719
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: You look at it. Now we're just respect DJ Moore

1720
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: over here.

1721
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 3: J Moore is a great player. He's not a top

1722
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 3: ten receiver in the league. And if he's the best

1723
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 3: player on your whole team, to me, that's not that

1724
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 3: talented a team. And you kind of go through it

1725
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 3: and I don't think they're that talented. I think there's

1726
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 3: a lot of reasons. You can see they had a

1727
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 3: good offseason that they can be better, but you're asking

1728
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 3: them to be five games better. I know they had

1729
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 3: a lot of bad luck in terms of one score

1730
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 3: games and all that stuff, But I look at like

1731
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 3: their coaching staff to me is totally unproven. Offensive coordinator

1732
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 3: is unproven, their head coach is unproven. Their defensive personnel,

1733
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 3: to me, as one is pretty unproven. And I don't

1734
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: know if Fields is an asset or not. You're kind

1735
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 3: of hoping he's a mid level quarterback. Bears fans hope

1736
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 3: he's even better than that, but I'm expecting mid level,

1737
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 3: and so to me seven and a half too rich.

1738
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 7: Are a lot of a lot of gusto in that one.

1739
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 7: II a real dismissal of the entire concept of the Bear.

1740
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: You will not be welcome in the Bear.

1741
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 3: This I looked. I looked over at our friends at

1742
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 3: football all manechoes. I got, oh, and you know who

1743
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 3: they've got projected as for the least amount of wins

1744
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 3: in the entire league thirty two out of thirty two

1745
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 3: this year, the Chicago Bears. So that was like, oh,

1746
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 3: I feel even better about it.

1747
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 6: Feeling even better about it.

1748
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 2: Right here we go speed round eight o'clock. The light

1749
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 2: is a theme song bill that we used to hit

1750
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: up some tidbits in the news. It runs one minute

1751
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 2: and twenty eight seconds, and if you if you speak

1752
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:45,479
Speaker 2: beyond that, you die, and Greg you will be picking last.

1753
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 2: So it really it's up to you. It's up to

1754
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 2: us now to least give Greg runway, right, So Greg

1755
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: needs the deserves some semblance of time twenty to twenty

1756
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 2: seven seconds.

1757
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So check out no twenty second sowhere in that neighbors. Yeah.

1758
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 2: So once the music starts, Bill, you will share yours.

1759
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: What wait, what's one twenty eight divided by four?

1760
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 6: That would be thirty one thirty two.

1761
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 2: Okay, so just take thirty seconds in your mind. It's

1762
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,439
Speaker 2: an internal clock. Good luck to everyone.

1763
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 6: Hit it, Eric Roberts, why am I doing math on air?

1764
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 7: There we go? Brands over six and a half wins

1765
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 7: is my final pick. Just counting on them getting healthy

1766
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 7: after being the second most entered team in football last year.

1767
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 7: Got in a third string offensive lineman. I really a

1768
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 7: bet on Sean McBay and the offense being confident enough

1769
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 7: to carry eight defense. That's Aaron Donald and ten anonymous

1770
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 7: players two seven or eight wins.

1771
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 4: Mark, all right, I'm countering your initial assessment. I'm going

1772
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns under nine point five. I already said why

1773
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 4: I believe I just I just believe it.

1774
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 6: I believe it. I don't know why. I have a

1775
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 6: weird feeling that things are not going to go.

1776
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: I know what you're really doing, swimmingly as I think.

1777
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: I understand you stole it from me. I understand.

1778
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 6: I said my bit.

1779
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: It's all that I'll rooted all this like stuff personal,

1780
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 2: but yours is more.

1781
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 6: I got your self.

1782
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: It's all good.

1783
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Greg, what about you?

1784
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh good?

1785
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, of course the New York Jets, everybody get

1786
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 2: out of my life.

1787
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: The logic checks out.

1788
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 2: The logic checks out that they will go plus nine

1789
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 2: and a half because they're gonna go eleven and six.

1790
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: What possibly could go?

1791
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 3: All right, you took my brown, so I'm gonna do

1792
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 3: what I thought Bill would do at the beginning under

1793
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 3: giants seven and a half. Got a lot of questions

1794
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 3: about that defense. Don't think the offense is gonna make

1795
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 3: up for it.

1796
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 1: Do you got time stretch.

1797
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 3: To Morena? Send a little hard out, No little extraly, Creig,

1798
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: just a little extra.

1799
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 6: You just made a fifth sixth.

1800
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 7: It didn't count.

1801
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't count.

1802
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 7: I guarantee that if you get one of your picks

1803
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 7: wrong next year, you're gonna kind of say, I also picked.

1804
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: You know what, you know what we're gonna do here.

1805
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: It does things.

1806
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 2: Let's leap out what he said in post because we can't.

1807
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 2: We can't let him have it. Remember as Bill's right,

1808
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: Bill's right, he if he has a rough year this year,

1809
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: he'll say, well I did get.

1810
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:11,599
Speaker 1: We can't have it.

1811
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 3: We won't remember it.

1812
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: You gotta beleep that too.

1813
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 3: You don't even remember we did this. You don't even

1814
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 3: remember we did this segment a year.

1815
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 4: Greg won't remember something he said on the show a

1816
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 4: year before that attached results and competition.

1817
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: I don't because I thought we only picked three a

1818
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 3: year ago. I was going by, go get my lunch.

1819
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 3: Thank you to Nick Fortier. Include include all four picks.

1820
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 3: If you want to put my fifth in parentheses as

1821
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 3: a hat, you know that would be fun.

1822
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 1: You'll never hear it, You'll never know what it is.

1823
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: I'll DM him. Bill, thank you so much, buddy.

1824
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: You gave us plenty of time and now you're gonna

1825
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 2: hit this way too much time. Sorry, Bill, and thank you.

1826
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 2: We just we thank you good man.

1827
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: Of course, anytime see it Bill.

1828
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,519
Speaker 2: Bill, Well, he said it all, and we've said it all.

1829
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: Great week of shows as we continue to drive through

1830
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:04,719
Speaker 2: UH training camps and preseason. We'll be back on Monday

1831
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 2: sharing some thoughts on the second week of preseason action

1832
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 2: and I think we're gonna try to get Colleen Wolf

1833
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 2: back in here if possible for atm another episode of

1834
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 2: the Hard Knocks podcast as well with Connie so the Machine.

1835
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 2: There are no reverse gears in this tank. As I've

1836
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: said many times, we are moving forward over rough terrain

1837
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 2: with ease.

1838
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 4: Final thoughts, Mark, I'm just having the time of my life.

1839
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 3: We're getting away from Charles Charles davilas he the call.

1840
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:55,599
Speaker 3: Bill's still there.

1841
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 7: Hi Bill, I'm not leaving. I'm saying it, so.

1842
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 1: UH, let Bill go.

1843
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 7: I'm not I'm not going anywhere. I have more bets

1844
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 7: that I just interplaced him. H