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Speaker 2: that culture? Yes, wow, lost culture ding Dong Lost Culturesa's calling.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have a mug that will be relevant to

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Speaker 2: You know about my thing with mugs, right, I have

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Speaker 1: I think most people have a collection of us.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what you need to you,

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Speaker 2: but not everyone has a theme for their mugs, is

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. You know about my thing is.

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Speaker 1: The theme mugs? What is the theme?

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Speaker 2: No, the theme of my mug collection is the movies,

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Speaker 2: theme park attractions. I always go to the gifts shop

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Speaker 2: drinking coffee out of my Jurassic Park mug from Universal Studios.

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Speaker 1: I think it's funny the Jurassic Park is itself a

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Speaker 1: M hm, I'm sorry, my sister for making light of

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Speaker 2: I'm not new to this. I'm true to this. Do

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Speaker 2: you have anything that you sort of collect? I know

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Speaker 1: I collect two things.

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Speaker 2: Now tell them about your collection, Tell them about your tastes, styles,

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Speaker 1: My fellow horse. I collect horses. I have horse figurines

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Speaker 2: Can I say? Bowen has the best smelling hand wash

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Speaker 1: It's they do? They do? Tomato leaves hand soap.

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Speaker 2: Tomato leaves hand soap. And when I first saw it,

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Speaker 2: I said, now I'm not going to be leaving this

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Speaker 2: What draws you to Torando's What drew you to tomatoes? Like?

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Speaker 2: really it. She provided this entertainment. Is it Grammy Oscar whatever? Winning?

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Speaker 2: now in this like tiny window of time before all

433
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: the girls stopped to the front, I know, because it

434
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: feels like she really hit her Valentine's moment, you know

435
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like everything about this felt pretty writing, especially,

436
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 2: and she gets this for something that in a couple

437
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: of weeks people aren't going to be talking about anymore.

438
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: Like this is a little blip, and it's a jalo blip,

439
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 2: and it's beautiful and gorgeous and chaotic and insane, and

440
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: then it'll be over.

441
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 1: A jalo blip can ripple out in a serious way.

442
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: And that's a rule of culture.

443
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: That's a major culture, that's real. Quaestion number forty blip

444
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: can in a major, serious way.

445
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: Oh okay, couple of things to share. First of all,

446
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: Gregory Maguire reached out on Wednesday to confirm that he

447
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: does listen to the podcast. I am so sorry. I

448
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: apologized over email, I said Gregory, I did not mean

449
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: to assume anything about your listening your media diet. Very

450
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: very nice of him. Unbelievable that someone like him would listen,

451
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: but love.

452
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: That it's because he recognizes this as a Glenda alphabet story.

453
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: It's a Glenda alphabet story. Gregory I think is a finalist.

454
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: He did not have self identifying any way towards me.

455
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: Certain finalist. That's a definition of a finalist, someone who's

456
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: fully formed in the culture, who don't need this.

457
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 1: Who gave us a cultural artifact, who expanded this story

458
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: of a universally known narrative in a way that is

459
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: maybe not technically canonized, but is like the like prequel

460
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: to The Wizard of Oz as far as the culture

461
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: is concerned.

462
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: Can I say that I'm just beaming sitting here smiling,

463
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: beaming because speaking a finalist. And I'm just gonna say

464
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: this because I feel like we've been talking about j

465
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: Lo as someone who did the crossover thing between acting

466
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: and singing and also was very identifiably of a time

467
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: and like, yes, understood the test of time. There is

468
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: a finalist who has identified themselves as a finalist in

469
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 2: that they are a reader katie publicist of this podcast,

470
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: and they're gonna come on the show. And I have

471
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: to say, Mandy Moore, we are so obsessed with you,

472
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: anily Cat. I swear to God, I'm in the damns

473
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: with Mandy Moore. She's gonna come on the show at

474
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: some point. And I just felt like, while we were

475
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: talking about Jayla, I was like, wait, there's literally someone

476
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: else too that like I'm gonna cry a full icon

477
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: for decades.

478
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: I know the question that I'm going to ask her

479
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: that I've been wanting to ask her for oh twenty years,

480
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: since two thousand and three. I've wanted to ask her

481
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: this question twenty one years.

482
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 2: So do you want to put the question out there

483
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 2: now because she may hear it? Okay, Mandy, you now

484
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: are gonna hear the question, and you have time to

485
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 2: think about this one.

486
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: Mandy Moore, did you have a Zanga page in the

487
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: heyday of zanga? Because there was a mandymore dot zanga

488
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: dot com where she was writing blog posts and there

489
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: were this was the days before verified, and so like

490
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: I was on that zanga every day hearing her talk

491
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: about was just on set, was just in the studio,

492
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: and the way she wrote was so beautiful and poetic.

493
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: If that was her, I need this for my soul, man.

494
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: Because also like, well, you need it for your soul

495
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: because what if it wasn't her and you were dame it.

496
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: Wasn't it will be devastating, but not not altogether unsurprising.

497
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: Wow wow, to think about a celebrity blogging and like

498
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: what two thousands.

499
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two, I was at like the library

500
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: on the computer on zanga, reading my friend zengas. But

501
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: then like, I really want to know Mandy Moore zanga,

502
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: like what Mandy Moore is saying? And then she used

503
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: the phrase in one of her posts, to put it mildly.

504
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: And as a twelve year old, you hear that and

505
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: you go, well, that's my new favorite fucking phrase to

506
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: put it mildly.

507
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

508
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: We say that all the time as adults. Now, I'm

509
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: sure in this generation, but in two thousand and two,

510
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: if you were twelve years old, that blew my mind.

511
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 2: You're to put it mildly? Do you know what mine was?

512
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: What it was Mariah Carey using the word nonchalantly in

513
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: her songs. I immediately was like, what is is that?

514
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 2: That word word? And I looked it up and it

515
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's like uncaring, like when you do

516
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: something like and it feels secondhand like you nonchalantly tossed

517
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: off a phrase. Are you nonchalantly? Like you know, made

518
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: mention it? And I was like, I will use that

519
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: incessantly to quote another another Mariah way, and like, but

520
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: Mariah's vocals, she loves her adverb. Clearly she had an

521
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 2: impact on the girls because here's fucking Mandy Moore to

522
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: put it mildly, and that that's a true cultural print moment. Bow,

523
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: and the fact that you remembered that all these years later,

524
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: that Mandy Moore said to put it mildly in her

525
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: Zenga blog.

526
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: If it wasn't her, then I will be chilled to

527
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: the bone.

528
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 2: No, oh my god, that would be chilling.

529
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: But if it was her, I will cry. I will

530
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: burst into tears. I promise if she says that was

531
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: my zanga, I will cry, Oh my god.

532
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: And Mandy don't because we've DMed it several times back

533
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: and forth and I just smile beaming the whole time.

534
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: Don't answer that question yet, like we don't want to know.

535
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,719
Speaker 2: We need to know when you come on and this

536
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: has to be in person and bone. You have to

537
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: come to La for that. We have to figure out

538
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: when you're gonna come to LA next.

539
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: Okay, no problem, Maybe March I will fly to La

540
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: on my own dime for Mandy Moore. Los cull terestas absolutely.

541
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: I have to say, do you remember? Okay? I think

542
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 2: my favorite Mandy Moore ever is only hope, No, No,

543
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: Although incredible. First of all, it's really hard to say

544
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: this because there's so many good songs.

545
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: I would watch the Cry music video by the Way

546
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: on the Walk to Remember DVD every day after school,

547
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: keep going. I'm sorry I had.

548
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: Do you know how many times I watched your Walk

549
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: to Remember and wept and wept and wept. It became

550
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: you ever watched those movies enough where it becomes more

551
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: about you crying about the movie. Like I was just like, well,

552
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: I want to absolutely sob, so I'm going to watch

553
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: you Walk to Remember again.

554
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: I want to absolutely sob to Walk to Remember or

555
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 1: and this is back in the days of DVD. I

556
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: want to laugh my ass off. To the commentary featuring

557
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: Adam Shankman, several times they are they are having a

558
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: gas laughing at Darryl Hannah's wig. Oh my god, Oh

559
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: my god.

560
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: Don't let me wait when you mentioned wig. I have

561
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: to get to something, but first, let me just say

562
00:29:48,000 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: the Mandy Moore song. I try, but I I want

563
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: to be with you. I used to just be in

564
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: my bedroom, like running around in circles thinking of like

565
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, I guess that was in like fourth grade,

566
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: like Kristin Rocco, who I had crutch just like me,

567
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 2: like he what a bit with you? Like listening to

568
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: this like girls song thinking about I guess a girl,

569
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 2: I'm a linked gay ass. Oh my god, I love that.

570
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: An amazing whole album.

571
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Mandy Mandy, to say nothing of Saved,

572
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: to say nothing.

573
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: Say nothing of, how to deal, to say nothing of,

574
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry the song Guardinia play Gardinia Now, Readers, Katie's

575
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: publicist finalists, you will not regret it. She was doing this.

576
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: She's not new to this.

577
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: She's true this. It's actually a real culture. Number seventyymore is.

578
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: Not new to this.

579
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: She's true to this. And you can see her now

580
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 2: on Doctor Death season two on Peacock and it's an

581
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: anthology Peacock, We love you. I mean that really, that's

582
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: what it is. Because when I first dm'd her, she

583
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: was like, well we should wait till after the strike,

584
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: and I was like, and then I remember I saw

585
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 2: her on the Today Show something Jaylo was wont to do,

586
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: and Mandy Moore is also want to do when she

587
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: is a project discussing Doctor Death, and I was like,

588
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: now did we miss our window here? But the thing

589
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: about Mandy Moore is there will always be a project

590
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: and that's where look coatch your number ninety it will

591
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: always always be a project.

592
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: We're so excited. Oh my god, Mandy is everything. She

593
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: was my life. Yeah.

594
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: Whenever people would be like, Okay, Brittany Christina and I

595
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: was just like, definitely respect both. Definitely for sure. Brittany

596
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: has a place in my life and cultural history. Christina

597
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 2: has a place in my life and my personality formation.

598
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: And then there was Jessica, who was you know, fun

599
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: on Newly Went. She did her thing. And then Mandy

600
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: Moore was not only right there with them, but also

601
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: smart enough to be like, you know what, I've had

602
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: a competing with these girls. I'm doing my own thing.

603
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: I'll catch you later. After my covers album, Oh my god,

604
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: coverage o her Yes coverage. The song choices on that album,

605
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 2: by the way sophisticated. She is covering Mona Lisa's and

606
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: Mad Hatters by Elton not just any Elton john song,

607
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: a fucking deep cut of an Elton Johnson No. And

608
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 2: I remember when it came out. I was excited because

609
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, covers, like thinking it's gonna be like

610
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: songs you hear on fucking American Idol. And then my little,

611
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: my little ass, I didn't know any of these have

612
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: a little faith in me?

613
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, go college a single by the way, the lead single,

614
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: this girl is an artist down.

615
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and such a gorgeous voice, and not only gorgeous voice,

616
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: but identifiable voice. It's like what we were saying. It's

617
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: like the thing of like you hear Mandy Moore and

618
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 2: you're like, that's Mandy Moore and she's perfect for Tangled.

619
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, my mind. I could cry to death.

620
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: I could cry to death.

621
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: Did I just recently talk about this line read Entangled?

622
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: When she's telling Donna Murphy, I will never She was like,

623
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: I will spend the rest of my life trying to

624
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: get as far away from you as possible.

625
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you to me at the end of

626
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: a long day.

627
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Wow, wow Mandy Okay. But then to reference another recent

628
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: guest or another guest, I ended up going to Wrestless

629
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: leg tour at the Beacon.

630
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh my god, how was it?

631
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: Just like top to bottom sublime.

632
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, I'm so upset, I couldn't go.

633
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: It's everything you want them to do. And then they

634
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: both individually did like a stand up set and like

635
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: both had different angles and takes on it. Like Amy

636
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: was giving like kind of like beautifully pensive thematic on

637
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: this thing on like memory, and it's like all these

638
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: great bits and stories and jokes, and then Tina comes

639
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: in and just sort of like does without spoiling too much,

640
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: like she's doing like her idea of what her doing

641
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: stand up should be. Basically that's funny and it's it's

642
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: so funny, And they do an update thing basically, oh man,

643
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: where the top jokes were that day was like Trump

644
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 1: has to pay like three hundred and fifty million dollars,

645
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: like the news broke that day, and then they had jokes.

646
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: They had fresh updatey jokes about it.

647
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: I was just like, God, these women and like hearing

648
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: them do update, I was just like I remember their

649
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: cadence and their like delivery on it, like and how

650
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: like stylistically, it's not any better or worse than like

651
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: what Seth was, what Colin and Chase is now and

652
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: like what like it's just you realize, Oh so each

653
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: update era is like its own flavor and tone and

654
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: I kind of forgot that about SNL, which is kind

655
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 1: of crazy. But like hearing Amy read jokes and Tina

656
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: read jokes, I was like, whoa, this is like this

657
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: is a fucking trip.

658
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a trigger. It's like a good trigger.

659
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: It's like it takes you back to that time when

660
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: you're like like, oh my god, Tina and Amy on update.

661
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: Because the thing about comedy is it's not like playing

662
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: the hits necessarily like a musician does, right, Like you know,

663
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: like you can be an act with like twenty year

664
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: old songs, right, you can play those songs and the

665
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: crowd goes wild. You can't really do that with comedy

666
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: unless there's something, unless the container is similar, but whatever

667
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: the content is has to be fresh and new, right.

668
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

669
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: So like that's the trick about like touring and just

670
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: doing comedy in general, is that like if you're a name,

671
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: you kind of have this bar to measure up to.

672
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: And like the fact that they still do it so

673
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: it seems like it's soortless, but you can appreciate the

674
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: work that goes into it, like, which is not to

675
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: say that it's labored at all. You cannot see them sweat.

676
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: It's just so special to watch them do it. Yeah,

677
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're fucking phenomenal, Like these are the

678
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: best we have.

679
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 2: They're the best of what they do. I mean, it's

680
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 2: funny that you mentioned that, like the legacy artist thing,

681
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: like Billy Joel comes out and does like New York

682
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: state of Mind, like Tina and Amy doing weekend Update

683
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: is them doing their New York state of Mind, you

684
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And right, but but except they

685
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: have to have to fill it with new content, so

686
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: it's like it's a different challenge.

687
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: As we're talking about time though, It's like there are

688
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: comedians as we know, who have like kind of tainted

689
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: the legacy because of like the way that they update

690
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: oh god content. Like that is the thing that is

691
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: kind of remarkable with Tina and Amy, and that's it's

692
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: not to say that they're the exception to the rule,

693
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: but there is a way to do it where I

694
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: think like they are not necessarily confined to any sort

695
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: of formal thing besides the update piece. But the rest

696
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: of the show is like built to their strengths and

697
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: also them trying new things. But it's like they also

698
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 1: have the benefit of not having to go up there

699
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: just by themselves with a microphone. Yeah, but they can

700
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: like do things that are like legible and familiar to

701
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: the audience and then loosely sort of break out of

702
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: that and then piece it back together by the end

703
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: in this way that is like comforting and really really

704
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: cathartically funny.

705
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: But also if they were to go out there by

706
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: themselves with the mic, they would be fine. And here's

707
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: the first because they know what's important in terms of

708
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: comedy and in terms of like really being an entertainer

709
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: and a lasting entertainer, which is exactly what you said.

710
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: They're not fixated with the past and how it's like

711
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: affecting their present, like all these comedians, like these iconic comedians,

712
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: like you know who they are, who are so angry

713
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: and up in arms about like what the cultural reality

714
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: is now, like getting all up in arms about like

715
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 2: you know, trans rites, getting all up in arms about

716
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: like woke culture that they are no longer funny and

717
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: they have lost sight on what's important, which is entertaining.

718
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: And the conclusion I keep coming to is if you

719
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: are unable to participate in now because of the past,

720
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: you cannot be a part of the future. Like if

721
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 2: you are so tripped up in what is happening right

722
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: now because.

723
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: Because of this confectedness to the past.

724
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, this like romanticism of yesterdayar and this need for

725
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: things to be the way they were. It's fine, Like,

726
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: you can continue to kick around in that slop, but

727
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: you will not be a part of the future.

728
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: I think they're banking on the future being not linearly progressive,

729
00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: that it will.

730
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: Circle back, that will like realize that what like quote

731
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: unquote wokeness is a trend, like people finally having the

732
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 2: right and ability to speak up for themselves, being like, hey,

733
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: this type of humor is only funny to a certain

734
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: type of person, and it really degrades and demoralizes and

735
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: dehumanizes a whole group of people. So maybe if we're

736
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: actually funny, we should be able to do something else.

737
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 2: Like they think that that idea is what a fad?

738
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 2: Maybe good fucking luck, good fucking luck. Let's talk about

739
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: Madam Web. Did you see it? Yeah? I did?

740
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: Oh tell me everything.

741
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: A lot of people are saying that this movie was

742
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: not so bad, that it's good, Like a lot of

743
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: people are saying, like he was just boring. No, I

744
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: think the movie was so bad. I had a great time, Like,

745
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: I love it. I had the best time watching this movie, Like,

746
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: and I didn't think it was boring. I just thought

747
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: it was completely insane and unhinged. And what I love

748
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: about it is Dakota Johnson's knowledge frame to frame that

749
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: this is horseshit. Like Dakota Johnson, I want to be

750
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: like her friend because she is.

751
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Just there, Like she's a good vibe. I can report.

752
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: You can tell like she's delivering the lines like just

753
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: enough so that it's acceptable to be cut, but also

754
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 2: like there's like this little way where she's like, I

755
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: don't know, man.

756
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: Like not to conjecture. I think she was giving that

757
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: in fifty Shades too.

758
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: I think she was.

759
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 1: Well, there was a moment and it made me love her.

760
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 2: Yes, And do you remember because iconically the first time

761
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: we ever saw fifty Shades was me, you and Dresden

762
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: on and address Valentine's Day like what it had to

763
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 2: be like ten years ago? What the fuck?

764
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen, Yeah, we hold them one in fifty Shah.

765
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: Just christ I hate time.

766
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: Fifty Shades of Great I came out twenty fifteen. Yeah, wow,

767
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: this is.

768
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: Nine Oh my god, Okay, so nine years ago we're

769
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: seeing this and there was a moment where like either

770
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: Jamie Dornan says something and there's a count Dakota that's like,

771
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: uh okay, it like wasn't supposed to be that, but

772
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: they keep it and even in interviews now, she's like

773
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: I think she was on the Tonight Show and Jimmy

774
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: was like, all right, so what do we have to

775
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: know before we see the movie? Like what do we

776
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: have to know?

777
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: Man?

778
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: Come on, dude, come on, tell me what we need

779
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: to know, guy, And Dakota's like, you can know absolutely

780
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: nothing and enjoy our movie. You don't have to know anything,

781
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: see and.

782
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: She still believes in the movie.

783
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: She's not retirelessly promoting it.

784
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: It's not that she's like abandoning her sort of Yeah,

785
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: she's still out here saying watch the movie. Mm hmmm,

786
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: it's pretty fine.

787
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does she have to and you know what,

788
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: to her credit, like I was entertained the whole time.

789
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: The whole time, I was like I want and I'm

790
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: being like, this is so insane. But the whig thing

791
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: from before, Okay, so we met a wig Sydney Sweeney's

792
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: wig in this is so bad.

793
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: Like it's so bad.

794
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: And sometimes I'm like I get it, Like I understand,

795
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: like hair is tough to deal with on a day

796
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: to day and sometimes you want a certain result. But

797
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: then I was like, you know what, now it's part

798
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: of it, Like now the fact that this is such

799
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: a horrible wig is part of it, and we're playing

800
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: the terrain. This is now an element of this movie

801
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: that I really enjoy. Yes, Yes, the villain in the movie,

802
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: have you heard about this? All of his lines are

803
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: a dr oh, I've heard about this? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

804
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: it literally bowing. His mouth is moving, and it's like

805
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: watching like a Godzilla movie, Like it's it's like what

806
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: is coming out of his mouth or what they want

807
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: you to think, Like what you're hearing is so different

808
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: than what his mouth is doing. Because they clearly had

809
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: to rewrite the movie because it didn't make sense, like

810
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: we have to find out what the villain wants and

811
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: what he's doing because it's unclear. It was unbelievable social

812
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: mammots in it, sitting the whole time being like a

813
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: computer hacker. It never pays off the cast they got

814
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: for this, for Adam Scott truly just cashing a check.

815
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: I can't believe Emma Roberts is in the movie.

816
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: This is like it's so.

817
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: Stacked and they're all doing nothing.

818
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: So happy, Okay, all I needed to hear was I

819
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: was getting so many conflicting reports on this about whether

820
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: or not it's bad in a fun way, And all

821
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: I need to hear is that you thought it was fine,

822
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: So now I will go see it.

823
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: Bowen. The way it ends, Dakota is so iconic for

824
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 2: the way that it ends, like so much going on

825
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: in the final frames of the movie, Like I can't

826
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: spoil it, but just advice to say, it's giving Professor

827
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: X in a way that is so funny.

828
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. Dakota, is I have a Halloween costume?

829
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: Let's just say no.

830
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: And then as a result of that, I was like, Wow, Dakota,

831
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: she is here to stay for sure. And so you

832
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: know what I was rewatching. I was rewatching some clips

833
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 2: from The Lost Daughter put some respect on.

834
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, so good.

835
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,879
Speaker 2: She is so good in that, so good in that,

836
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: and so bizarre in it too, like she's playing so.

837
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: But alluring and like seductive, just like the things like

838
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: playing to her strength. I think Dakota Johnson herself is

839
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: that is the essence of her. Yeah, she's a little strange.

840
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: Oh, Bowen, I wish we could have seen this movie together.

841
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: Oh I'm sad. This is what happens by coastal my ass,

842
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: I know, not, I know.

843
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I guess I could say on the pod what

844
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 2: I'm doing. Yes. So I'm here shooting a new series

845
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 2: for Netflix and it's from Liz Feldman, who did Dead

846
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: to Me So Good, And it's called No Good Deed.

847
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: And the cast is Ray Romano, Lisa Kudro, Linda Cardellini,

848
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: Luke Wilson, Dennis Leary, Teana Parish, like, oh my god,

849
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: Abby Jacobson, Poppy Louie, Poppy Anna, Mario Horsford, and fucking me.

850
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: It's such a fun cast and the group is so great.

851
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: And it's about Ray and Lisa play this couple who

852
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: are selling their Los Felis home and there's like a

853
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 2: bunch of different couples like and people vying for the home.

854
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: But when no one knows is that something very dark

855
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: has happened in the house. And I played the real

856
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: estate agent, so I get to have scenes with everyone.

857
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: I have a really fun part. I can't say too

858
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 2: much about it, but you're the glue. Let's just say

859
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a big function and I really really really

860
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 2: am excited about it, and uh, it's gonna.

861
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: Be really good.

862
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: I read the scripts and I'm like, oh shit, y,

863
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: it's so exciting.

864
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: This is what we need. We need Matt Rogers like

865
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: playing a realtor, but like giving giving connective tissue. I said, it's.

866
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: Giving one third Kroschelle one third, Christine Quinn one third

867
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: Matt Rogers.

868
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: Bitch, that's that's a scary, scary pie chart horrifying. I

869
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: only really like one of those people. No, I like

870
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: Rochelle the way you just said. I only really like

871
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: one of those people. And I'm one of the people.

872
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: Well yeah, because it's like, you know, lovely like Matt.

873
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: That's not how I meant it.

874
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: I love Rochelle too. Can I say, Chrishelle? Chrischelle will

875
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: hit the carpet, Yeah, at the People's Choice Awards, and

876
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: I'll be like, that.

877
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,879
Speaker 1: Is all of us right there there you go. Oh

878
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: have you watched any of Mister and Missus Smith. I

879
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: am two episodes in. I was like, watch in those

880
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: two episodes of be like, oh I'm in. I'm strapping

881
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: my seatbelt for this. I just haven't been able to

882
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: move as quickly as I would like to. I really

883
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: enjoy it.

884
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: I watched the first episode. I liked it a lot

885
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: for some reason, liked it a lot more than I

886
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: thought me too.

887
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: I like that it's giving Mystery of the Week, I

888
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 1: think because there have been rumors that it like wasn't

889
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: good and that's why Phoebe waller Bridge wasn't in it,

890
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: and I was disappointed that she wasn't.

891
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: Though I do love my Ers.

892
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: Maya is fantastic and.

893
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: This is such a different thing than Penn fifteen.

894
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

895
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: I really liked the conceit of it, which is, this

896
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: is their assignment. It's their assignment to cover as a

897
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: married couple. It's not the original movie, which is obviously

898
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: they were married and then found out they were married

899
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: to us. By this isn't really interesting good if you

900
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: will weigh in, which is that you're seeing them on

901
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: day one of their marriage because it's their new assignment

902
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: and they have they have like a charming little rapport.

903
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: I like watching it. I'm excited to see how it develops.

904
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: Also in terms of it being from Donald and Stephen

905
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: Glover Kira MURRAI like that whole Atlanta group very different

906
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: from that. Like, I like that it's this Like again,

907
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: I like that it's kind of episodic. You're not getting

908
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot of that anymore, and this is it really

909
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: works for me. I think the fact that it's a

910
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: little episodic like makes it.

911
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: Also the serialization is gonna come so obviously in their relationship,

912
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's almost procedural in that

913
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: way where it's like the way that you develop an

914
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 2: affection for like these characters, you know, Benson and Stabler,

915
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: is because you see them in these situations and then

916
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you're like.

917
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: You're thinking about the totality.

918
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, in the totality of it, you connect

919
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 2: to them and you get their partnership, whereas like, obviously

920
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 2: I haven't seen too much of this yet, but it

921
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: feels like that might be what binds and connects them

922
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: because obviously they're very odd couple at the beginning.

923
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: Totally, when I think about the totality of Mandy Moore

924
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: or Jennifer Lopez, I think these are my girls.

925
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: I mean literally, I just I can't even like Mandy Goes.

926
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: I love the podcast. I love you guys so much.

927
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: And I was like Mandy Moore, Man, if I start,

928
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 2: I won't stop because I could go on and on.

929
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: I mean literally any things that you literally.

930
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: Just screamed at each other.

931
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: I know, And honestly, it's kind of nice to just

932
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: get that out of the way, so that like, and

933
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure that we will absolutely fawn over her when

934
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: she comes, but like the way that it could just

935
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: be thirty minutes of us being like Mandy.

936
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: Not that you guys haven't heard us be sick of

937
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: fantic towards our guests before. Now, can we talk about

938
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: the year? Do you have stuff for the year?

939
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: Yes, So this week on the podcast, the year, the

940
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 2: cultural year that we are excavating. This year has been

941
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: chosen from the goblet of cultural years, is nineteen ninety three. Bowen,

942
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: what are your instincts and things that immediately you have

943
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: jumping out of your heart when I say that year

944
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three, I.

945
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: Am gonna say, well, as we said, I said Jurassic Park,

946
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:10,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the York debut, I'm gonna say, hey,

947
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, hold on, I'm doing a cook Google

948
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: exiling guy, the Lives Fair.

949
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: Wow, you could speak to that. This was a.

950
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: Huge year for like alt rock quote unquote whatever that

951
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: means to you. But in terms of like your PG Harvey's,

952
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: your Radioheads, your fucking Nirvana. You know, it's like this

953
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: was a time of like grunge, Like I don't even

954
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: know quite how to like type this, but like it

955
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: was that mixed with like adult contemporary was like really

956
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: starting to come in and like be this like Mariah

957
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: putting out music box is I think like also indicative,

958
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: Oh Janet doing Janet Like this is like things were

959
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: kind of coexisting in an interesting way and like nothing

960
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 1: was like overtaking the other, like it could all live

961
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 1: next to each other without bumpang mm hmmm. Yeah.

962
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: I mean this was a time where it's funny that

963
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: you talk about that type of music because by far

964
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: the biggest album of this year, and it would be

965
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: ultimately one of the biggest albums of all time in

966
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: its totality. A word we've used much on this episode

967
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: is Whitney Houston The Bodyguard. Oh my god, So Whitney

968
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: Houston The Bodyguard was the biggest, not only the biggest

969
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: album of the year, but the biggest one of the

970
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: biggest albums of the decade. It obviously was connected to

971
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: the film The Bodyguard, which was released, so it's obviously

972
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: one of the biggest soundtracks of all time. This is

973
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: obviously in the grand scheme of Whitney Houston's career. There's

974
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 2: no bigger song then I Will Always Love You. Obviously

975
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: it is what she is most iconic for. But that

976
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: being said, there was also many many tracks on this

977
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: album that were huge hits, such as I Have Nothing,

978
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: such as Queen of the Night, such as Run to You.

979
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 2: This was like the apex Diva moment of Whitney Houston,

980
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 2: and it obviously coincides with what you were saying, like,

981
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: you know, Mariah had just really popped off like Selene

982
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 2: in a couple of years would really really really be

983
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: at her like mainstream height. But in many ways this

984
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 2: was the beginning of not even really the beginning, but

985
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 2: it was like the rising action peak, let's say, in

986
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: some way of that like diva thing. Yeah, so interesting

987
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 2: that also, you know, grunge was happening, and like there

988
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: was this alt rock moment, just a really interesting time

989
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: for very emotionally specific big music.

990
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: Big music that you don't necessarily think of as like

991
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: big tent, you know what I mean, Like these things

992
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: would never fly today because it would be like, well,

993
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: the alt rock is for this type of person, and

994
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: the divas are for this type of person. Like the

995
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: fact that that was like pretty ubiquitous and like welcoming

996
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: for everyone, that like everyone could like find another phrase

997
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: that we're using a lot of this episode way in

998
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: with these albums makes me go, oh, that's what we're

999
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: sort of losing with monoculture, which I dot we can

1000
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: debate with people whether or not like it still exists

1001
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: if it's just a different form. Yeah, But that's a

1002
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: great assessment about the music of the time.

1003
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 2: It's just interesting. Like I guess technically the Bodyguard album

1004
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 2: was released in ninety two, but it was the best

1005
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 2: selling album of ninety three of the guy. And if

1006
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: you talk about like what artists were really popular, it's

1007
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: Wynney Houston. Then there was Kenny g Eric Clapton, Janet Jackson,

1008
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 2: Billy Ray Cyris, doctor Dre Pearl, jam Garth Brooks, Don't Taple,

1009
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: Pilot Spin Doctors, like lots of variety here in what

1010
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: was happening, you know what I mean? Like there was

1011
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: music was interesting, obviously Liz fair b York's debut, but

1012
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: it was really it was an interesting time. But for me,

1013
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: I think if I was like fully activated gay guy

1014
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: at this time, I'm for sure only listening to the

1015
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: Bodyguard album. I mean like that to me activated gay guy.

1016
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: If I'm unactivated giy guy at the time, it's all

1017
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 2: about Whitney for me at this moment.

1018
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 1: I mean, how often do we do this as gay

1019
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: guys where we like time travel Like if I had

1020
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: gay guy taste, sensibility, whatever, what would I be doing.

1021
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: Traveling gay Guy.

1022
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of scary to think about because whatever

1023
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm like still like on my Capodi kick, not necessarily

1024
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: with the show, but just like there's a great documentary

1025
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,439
Speaker 1: on Hulu called the Capoti Tapes that I watched last night,

1026
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: and it is just like, God, it was pretty hard

1027
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: out there for us.

1028
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: Is that our show is our show like Kunk on Earth,

1029
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 2: but it's called time Traveling Gay Guy and we go

1030
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: back in time to different eras and like interview people

1031
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: of the time, Like, is that our show? Wait? Maybe

1032
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: that's maybe that's it time Traveling Gay Guy, And it's

1033
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: like you did you finish Kunk on Earth? Yes, I'm.

1034
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: It's my favorite. I think it's one of my favorite

1035
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: comedies in the last like three years.

1036
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 2: It is staggering how stupid stupid is like it's just

1037
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 2: so funny, like it never stops, like the jokes never stop, honestly,

1038
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 2: Like at a certain point you do need to take

1039
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 2: a break because you're just like it's now, the jokes

1040
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: are just they're coming too fast. Like I like a

1041
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: little overwhelmed.

1042
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: The way that pumped the jams thing like, oh.

1043
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 2: I love it, love it.

1044
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 1: Gets resort of remixed every episode. I'm like, this is crazy,

1045
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: Like it reminded me of like kill me, like money

1046
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: python stuff. But anyway, okay, biggest films of.

1047
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: The year, Yeah, Jurassic Park was the biggest movie of

1048
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 2: this year, missus doubtfire. This was a big Spielbergerie year,

1049
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: because yeah, he's got the number one commercial film of

1050
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: the year and the number one critical head of the year.

1051
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 2: He's got the biggest movie of the year and the

1052
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: Best Picture of winner, which were Jurassic Park and and

1053
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: you say versa tile My guy was topping and bottoming

1054
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 2: the industry. Oh he was topping.

1055
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: Us with How's he was topping us with Dassic Park

1056
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: and bottoming with Schindler's List.

1057
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: This doesn't necessarily feel right.

1058
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, miss I think.

1059
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 2: Bottoming is so much more emotional than topping, like you're

1060
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: feeling so much that I do.

1061
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: Feel like and then a woman in a red dress

1062
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: comes out.

1063
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,959
Speaker 2: I can't a little girl in a red dress?

1064
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: Please, Oh I'm sorry, let me take that.

1065
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 2: A woman in a red dress. No, don't let him

1066
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: have that. He's been a lot of edits out this episode.

1067
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 2: Woman in a red dress will stand.

1068
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it in a while.

1069
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: Me neither. I haven't seen it very long time. But

1070
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: Jurassic Park I've seen many times.

1071
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely just an easier watch. I'd say The Fugitive is

1072
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: the number three highest grossing film of nineteen eighty three.

1073
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: That is a traumatizing film for me because that we

1074
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: watched that in Canada, in Montreal, there was a woman

1075
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: named Janine who is like the baby sitter and all

1076
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 1: the kids, all the kids, and then she was so cool,

1077
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: but she had like she was a childless woman who

1078
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: had a huge house, right, and so she her whole

1079
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: thing was like childcare. And she was this cool fucking

1080
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: woman in her fifties who lived with her husband, and

1081
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: like all the kids from the neighborhood would go to

1082
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: her house after school and like, you know, the parents

1083
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 1: would pay her, but she would just like put food out,

1084
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: put video games out, movies. We'd be downstairs and we

1085
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: would all just like hang out and it was like

1086
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: summer camp and like and one day we watched The

1087
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: Fugitive and it was so like when the wife dies,

1088
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 1: Yeah tough. I was just like, this is crazy. Also

1089
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: try traumatic. Thing from that basement where we would watch

1090
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: the movies was all The kids made fun of me

1091
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: because I pronounced Return of the Jedi and they said

1092
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: Jed and they laughed at me because I mispronounced Jedi,

1093
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: which is, by the way, a made up word. Thinks

1094
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: Jed is very chic.

1095
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 2: Did you hear that Daisy Ridley is returning to Star

1096
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: Wars to play the Ray.

1097
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: Ray Matt speaking French is so my favorite. You're oh Spanish? Okay,

1098
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: what else? Listen? Seattle, Philadelphia, the Pelican Brief. Oh my god,

1099
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 1: Julia coming in to this. But this is after Mystic Pizza.

1100
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: But this is Julia really becoming Julia.

1101
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Julia post Pretty Woman.

1102
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: Oh yes, that's right. I'm sorry I thought this was

1103
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: before Pretty Woman. Yes, this is after Mystic Pizza and

1104
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: Pretty Woman and still Magnolia's okay, so that she was Julie.

1105
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: Still Magnolia's was her first OSCAR nomination. Then came Pretty Woman.

1106
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: She was full of Julia at this point, but obviously

1107
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: like this was again it's her rising action peak, you

1108
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It wasn't yet, it wasn't yet

1109
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 2: where it would go, but it was it was going.

1110
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: She was actuate.

1111
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: There we're going.

1112
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: But I do want to say just about Jurassic Park.

1113
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: Yes, please.

1114
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: I always had the comment about Jurassic Park that like,

1115
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to see more of the theme park in

1116
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: the movie. But I think that that was probably just

1117
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: me being stupid, and I think being a kid looking back,

1118
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: Jurassic Park, no notes, no notes, you did that thing.

1119
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: Oh you did that thing. You're not gonna be out

1120
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 1: here saying that you wished Jurassic Park was different. I'm sorry.

1121
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: No, is there a favorite scene in Jurassic Park for you?

1122
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 2: Do you want to be a gay guy and say

1123
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 2: Laura during going through the poop?

1124
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: No, I was gonna say, I actually, and this is

1125
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: so stupid of me. I actually love when they're watching

1126
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: the cartoon talk about the Amber pre show, the pre show,

1127
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: because it makes you realize, like this movie is working

1128
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: on a lot of levels, like the science is actually

1129
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: kind of there, and they're like Steven Spielberg was like, no,

1130
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: we're spending time. Like Michael Crichton would have wanted this.

1131
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: We're spending or would want this he was still alive.

1132
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: Let's spend time on the science of this. Because then

1133
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: because remember like you know, middle school science class, like

1134
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: all the teachers being like in my school at least,

1135
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: like it would be like, you know, the science in

1136
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: Jurassic Park is actually our type. We could you know,

1137
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: grow dinosaurs if we wanted to blah blah blah blah

1138
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: blah blah. That was like the urban legend kind of scientifically,

1139
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: I think, being in middle school.

1140
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 2: At the time and just set this straight as the

1141
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: person here who's like.

1142
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: More, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna know.

1143
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: Can you do this? Can you do it?

1144
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, and you want.

1145
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: To No, oh, certainly not like whenever it comes to like, hey,

1146
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 2: we should do this, like I don't even think we

1147
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: should be in space. No, that we're not supposed to

1148
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: be there, Like I think we should be leaving things

1149
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: well enough alone. I think dinosaurs are gone for a reason.

1150
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: I think space you can't be up there for a reason.

1151
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 2: I think we need to stay out of the oceans.

1152
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: You know how I feel about this.

1153
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: I think that about being on a plane, I'm like,

1154
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: we're not supposed to.

1155
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: Be don't even get me started. Every single time you're

1156
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 2: on a plane, and remember you're on a hulking hunk

1157
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: of metal, and that doesn't feel right to me. No

1158
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 2: air travel does not feel right to me at all.

1159
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: M M.

1160
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 2: Boats feel insane to me.

1161
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: Boats I actually think are okay? How are boats okay

1162
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: for traversal? You're standing on something or you're sitting on something.

1163
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 2: We'll let me stand on business when I say that,

1164
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 2: you're way more endangered on a cruise ship boat than

1165
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: you are in the air. And I don't even like

1166
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: the air thing. But in the water, especially with the

1167
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 2: orc is acting up the way that they are, especially

1168
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: with what we know about sharks now, Honey, adibly dangerous.

1169
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying boats aren't dangerous. I'm saying being on

1170
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: a boat makes more sense to me. As like primitive

1171
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: animals like the cavemen might have built a boat. What

1172
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,959
Speaker 1: I think maybe a person and Neanderthal might have tried

1173
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: to make a boat one day, girl, they never try

1174
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: to make a plane, you know what I mean? Does

1175
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: that make sense?

1176
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so, But that doesn't mean that one

1177
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: is more above board than the other. I guess. My

1178
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: thing with being on the open water and then you know,

1179
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: they say we know less about the ocean than we

1180
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: do about the space space. For me, it's like if

1181
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: you're in the air, the only thing that can go

1182
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: wrong is the plane malfunctions, you know what I mean, Like,

1183
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: something goes wrong with the plane and it goes down.

1184
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 2: When you were on a boat on the water, million,

1185
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 2: literally you were a million things could happen. The boat

1186
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: could get fucked up, a wave could happen. There's no

1187
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 2: waves that could happen in the air. And then get

1188
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 2: into this likely if your plane goes down, you die

1189
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 2: pretty instantly. You may even die from shock before you

1190
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 2: even hit the ground. Like truly, on a boat, if

1191
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 2: that thing goes over, honey, you die in the water.

1192
01:02:56,120 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 2: You don't die because the boat capsize. You probably have

1193
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: to be swimming around for a while and then what now.

1194
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: I don't want people saying to me, Hey, that was

1195
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 2: messed up what you did on the last episode of

1196
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: lost culture restas because you conjured up images of tragedy,

1197
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: pain and death. No, but this is just the reality

1198
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 2: of the world. And guess what, if you're listening to this,

1199
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna die one day too. Who knows how it

1200
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 2: will happen.

1201
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: Maybe on a boat.

1202
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you it's more likely that you die

1203
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 2: on a boat than you die on the air. Get

1204
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 2: over it?

1205
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 1: Okay, So okay, big news stories of ninety three. Isn't

1206
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: it interesting that so far the three years that we've

1207
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 1: drawn all inaugurations inauguration years.

1208
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Clinton started to be really.

1209
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I have on here at the Waco

1210
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: Siege Branch, Davidian Sleigh, what else, Space Shuttle Endeavor? Okay, amazing.

1211
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,920
Speaker 1: The Brady Bill for guns, Oh my god, gun control?

1212
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: Remember gun control? I think that's it. Yeah, this was

1213
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: This year was really okay. I will say this year

1214
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: was the birth of my sister, Chelsea Ryan Rodgers. Oh

1215
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 1: my god, that's so nice.

1216
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 2: Chelsea Ryan Rodgers was born on January twenty fourth, nineteen

1217
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: ninety three. I won't say her real last name now

1218
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 2: because she has a new last name, and I will

1219
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 2: respect her.

1220
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: Congratulations Chelsea Nay Rogers.

1221
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: Chelsea was born when I was three years old, and

1222
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 2: I think I was a good big brother.

1223
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure you were all Matt.

1224
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: I think I was brother.

1225
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: I was big bro for once now ninety three for me,

1226
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: I think we had moved from Kingston, Ontario to Quebec.

1227
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: We might, I know. I think we were still in Kingston, Ontario,

1228
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 1: town outside of Toronto. I was playing with pots and pans.

1229
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 1: That was my thing is at three years old, or

1230
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: between two and three, I was like, my mom would

1231
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: like lay out the pots and pants on the rug

1232
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: on the carpet in the living room, and I would

1233
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: just like pretend I was cooking.

1234
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: And did your mom at once she heard you playing

1235
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: with the pots and pants? Did she sort of run

1236
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: into your father's office and say, Rulin, Rulin, I think

1237
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: our child may have musical talent. And she said get

1238
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 2: out of here.

1239
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 1: She Oh my god, wait, were you there, bitch? That's

1240
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. I was there, and then my sister

1241
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: all and then I sing all too well. At three, Now,

1242
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: where were you were on Long Island?

1243
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 2: I was on Long Island being three. I think me

1244
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 2: at three was probably a whole thing hmm. I can't

1245
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: say much about when I was three years old. We

1246
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 2: lived in West Babylon, New York. I wasn't in school yet.

1247
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: I probably was out. I was like an outdoor kid,

1248
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 2: but I'm only three here, so I don't know. I

1249
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: was having like a jamming out with Katrina like all

1250
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:03,120
Speaker 2: the time.

1251
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh guy, you guys hanging out? Oh?

1252
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely? And then I did ask like was I a

1253
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: good brother? Because that's something that's important to me nowadays.

1254
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 2: It's like, was I a good brother growing up? And

1255
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: all accounts are that I was a good brother. And

1256
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: then I wasn't like jealous that there was a new kid,

1257
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 2: because something you do hear, like new parents say, is like, oh,

1258
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 2: I have a three year old and there's a new baby,

1259
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 2: and it's like now it's getting a little contentious in

1260
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: the house. It's like or like something shifted. But luckily

1261
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: I can say at least my parents are protecting me

1262
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: enough to not tell me I was a nightmare. But

1263
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: I think I was good.

1264
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: I believe that.

1265
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: I do think that all people, including myself, are good

1266
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: at heart.

1267
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: I believe that too.

1268
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: Now. Chance the Rapper was born this year.

1269
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: Chance the Rapper was born this year.

1270
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 2: Debbie Ryan was born this year. Oh dad, I was

1271
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 2: born this year.

1272
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, ariana amazing, amazing year for birth. Wow,

1273
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: Ariana is younger than my little sister, and you're a

1274
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: big bro to her. I'm gonna have to treat Arian

1275
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: like little Cis Vibes, Little Cis Vibes. Ty Warner USA

1276
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: launch is the first Beanie Babies. Oh wow, this feels

1277
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: this was rising action to Beanie baby mania.

1278
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: On listen, listen to me right now. If you have

1279
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 2: a great idea, sometimes you gotta let it cook. Maybe

1280
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: maybe in three years it will be Beanie Baby.

1281
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: Oh this news is sad to me. You Cobbin and

1282
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: Yasir Arafat signed peace agreement on the White House lawn.

1283
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: Oh well, in the words of Charre Horowitz, I thought

1284
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: they declared peace in the Middle East.

1285
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: In the words now, let's see the EU farmer's protest.

1286
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: We all remember where we were, and that's basically, you know,

1287
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of an interesting year. A peaceful year, definitely,

1288
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: peace was kind of interesting. If Israel and PLO signed

1289
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: a peace agreement, that's going to be a peaceful year.

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, actually going to be a peaceful year.

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Speaker 2: And now bowen. You know what I'm doing. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: going into the culture years.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're drawing another year, so exciting.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm picking it out. I'm feeling the energy.

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Speaker 2: What is it going to be? The year is twenty thirteen?

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Speaker 1: Twenty thirteen another inaugurate not an inauguration year, but another

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Speaker 1: like post general election year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, so what's going on here? There's a

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Speaker 2: theme here, there's a theme of election. It's almost like

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Speaker 2: it's almost think there's one looming.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh oh, okay, twenty thirteen. Well we all hopefully

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Speaker 1: you were born by then. Hopefully are no ten year

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01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: olds listening to this podcast. Hopefully you're older.

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01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: Than there is then holy shit, not beating those groomer allegations.

1305
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: Not batting the groomer allegations for gay guys.

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 2: Well, isn't it scary to think even a ten year

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01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 2: old could Because they have phones nowadays, they could be

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01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: listening to this. We could be polluting our minds with

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01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 2: things like Whitney Houston, Whitney Houston. True, we want I

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Speaker 2: don't think, honey.

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Speaker 1: Lets me want to I don't think, so, honey, do

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01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: you have something I do? Okay, this is Matt Rodgers's

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey. The plot of Missus Doubtfire, okay,

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01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: we're talking about here, I go liar. You're a liar.

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01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: You're a liar, and female culture is not your costume,

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: Robin Williams. And I don't like for one second that

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: you lie to that woman and her family. I don't

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01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 2: care what your intentions were. You're a liar, You're disgusting.

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Speaker 2: You were a narcissist, Robin Williams. Missus Doubtfire is a

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01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 2: disgusting display of narcissism. And just you know what, how

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Speaker 2: about this. You want to get in good with your kids,

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Speaker 2: start telling the truth, Start telling the truth. Okay. The

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Speaker 2: way that you get it with the kids is not

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01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: going to be dressing up as a full woman. And

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Speaker 2: by the way, that was an offensive, the caricature of

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Speaker 2: a woman, elderly woman. It was offensive, it was ages,

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:20,839
Speaker 2: it was sexist, and it was disgusting. And Sally Field,

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Speaker 2: I'm with you when you said the whole time time

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Speaker 2: because the answer is yes, that's what he's capable of.

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Speaker 2: Do not get back together with this man. He's disgusting,

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Speaker 2: toxic liar. I don't think so, honey. That's one minute.

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Speaker 2: That is one of the best you've ever done. He

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01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: was a disgusting, toxic liar period.

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Speaker 1: You can't argue with that.

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Speaker 2: It's really cult missus down fire. He was toxic liar

1337
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:55,240
Speaker 2: lie Se number forty four, not beating the drag lying allegations.

1338
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that gave Drag such a bad name.

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Speaker 2: It really did.

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Speaker 1: So upset. My day is ruined. I have one that

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I have one that's slightly less spiery, but

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Speaker 1: I think that's okay. I'm not gonna that's totally okay,

1343
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Speaker 1: me thinks, But I think people are going to relate.

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Speaker 2: To this relatable king. This is Bowen Yang's I don't

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01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: think so, honey. His time starts now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so many spiral notebooks, why are we

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01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: still selling this shit? The rings get bent, the pages

1348
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: don't turn as good as when you buy it fresh

1349
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: off of the shelf. Okay, and ye, sometimes you try

1350
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: to fit a pencil in there or a pen in

1351
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,600
Speaker 1: there and it falls out. The spiral doesn't work anymore,

1352
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: and depending on your handedness, every other page you're not

1353
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna be able to write on it because guess what,

1354
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: the spiral is pressing. The spine of the spiral is

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Speaker 1: pressing on your hand as you write. And then what

1356
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: does your hand do as you apply pressure onto the spiral.

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Speaker 1: It warps the spiral. So therefore, I think we should

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Speaker 1: abolish spiral. Abolished spiral notebook most importantly, But the spiral

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01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: is also full of plastic probably, and we're done with that.

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01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: We're done with plastic, and I think we just need

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Speaker 1: to do traditional bound notebook at the spine and not

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Speaker 1: make any innovations in this area.

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Speaker 2: And that's one minute. So are you saying return to marble?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? No, I'm yeah, marble notebook is

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01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: totally acceptable. Any notebook that had that like doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to like fold in on itself. That is a gimmick

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Speaker 1: that we no longer need, that we never needed in

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Speaker 1: the first place.

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Speaker 2: What I'm just looking over at my desk and I

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Speaker 2: see I'm using a spiral notebook.

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Speaker 1: And I need it a spiral notebook, and it's ruining

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Speaker 1: my life. But I refuse to change.

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Speaker 2: There is something to say about the fact that really

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Speaker 2: what you have there in spiral notebooks is it's a

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Speaker 2: weapon that can be used against you in your own home,

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01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: because if someone were to come there and unspiral it,

1377
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Speaker 2: then what I have is a very dangerous, really metal wire.

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Speaker 1: A wire, a device for harm to fight. Also, it

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01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: makes the writing experience unpleasant.

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Speaker 2: Produce re Becca says, spiral notebooks are disrespectful to the

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Speaker 2: left handed community me.

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Speaker 1: And the right handed community. Ps if you try to

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01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 1: write on the opposite page. Mm wow, I hadn't even

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01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 1: thought about that, That's what I'm saying. Oh, never mind,

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01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: This is just no way around it, because I was

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01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna say around. You can flip it in and do it,

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01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: but you'd still come up against want to know, because

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01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 1: guess why you're turning your notebook up and down, up

1389
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Speaker 1: and down for every other page. Get them off the

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Speaker 1: market now, I said.

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Speaker 2: In j Lo out out spiral note spiral notebooks in

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Speaker 2: Madam webb out, missus dat fire in Mandy Moore out

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Speaker 2: Mandy Moore.

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Speaker 1: Not being on the pod, not being on the pod. Ooh,

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Speaker 1: I see what you did there.

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01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: Well, this was a culturally ripe episode. There was so

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01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 2: much to discuss, and really, what I have to say

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Speaker 2: about this episode is Wow, the power of women.

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Speaker 1: Wow, the power of women. It's going to be Women's

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Speaker 1: History Month in March. Well, happy Pisce season, Everyone happy

1401
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: last season. The Piscians are pis seing Pisce sing.

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 2: I have a feeling that I might cry every day

1403
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: this season.

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: You should, but not in.

1405
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 2: A pejorative way. In a way where I reclaim my tears.

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01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: This is Me now, this is you now, And if

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this. On February twenty first, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: the Moon enters, Leo and Venus can joins Mars. Relationships

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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: gain a little sizzle, and creativity gets more muscle, artistry

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01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 1: and willpower are a match made in heaven. Now. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Chenny Nicholas.

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 2: Yes, she posted a really good piece season debut.

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Speaker 1: She always do.

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Speaker 2: We end every episode with the song.

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01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 1: This is Me Now, This is Me Now.

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01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 2: To hear more of that, watch the Prime original This

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01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: is Me Now, starring Jennifer Lopez.

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Speaker 1: Bye Bye,