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Speaker 2: Tip to Tim. This is our life, this is our passion.

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Speaker 2: That's the spirit we bring to this show.

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Speaker 3: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 4: Well it really wouldn't be MK if we did start

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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes late because my equipment fell apart.

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Speaker 4: It's Friday, January seventh, twenty twenty two, a day after

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Speaker 4: an anniversary that will live in infamy for most of

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Speaker 4: the world, but it was a celebration for most of

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Speaker 4: our listeners.

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Speaker 2: Luke, It's Morning Combat.

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Speaker 4: My name is Brian Campbell, the Big beij One, live

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Speaker 4: in direct from Orlando, Florida ahead of tonight's Showbox the

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Speaker 4: New Generation card on Showtime.

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Speaker 2: And you know the guy sitting.

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Speaker 4: Next to me, at least metaphorically, certainly not physically, he's

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Speaker 4: an incredible analyst. He's also also was an old bitch.

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Speaker 4: It's Luke Thomas. Everybody, Hey, Luke, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Let's act like I will just have a meltdown.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: I might be an old bitch, but only one of

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Speaker 2: That would be to my team.

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Speaker 4: But the only time you see bitch ass BC come

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Speaker 2: But Luke, we've got a show filler for you today,

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Speaker 2: getting you set up for.

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Speaker 4: A very light weekend in combat sports, looking at the

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Speaker 4: biggest stories, the headlines in mime and boxing and what

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Speaker 4: else we got oh homework assignment this week, Luke. So

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Speaker 4: you saw almost famous, Luke, you saw it.

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Speaker 3: I did. I watched it. We're ready to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be very interested to see if you

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Speaker 4: saw this as the near cinematic classic that the critics did,

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Speaker 4: We'll find out later today and today's show. Hey, Morningcombat

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Speaker 4: But right now, I'm told Luke, the final crumbs in

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Speaker 4: digital show space. Luke, we kicked the others out and

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Speaker 4: you know, started taking home some big hardware. But Luke,

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Speaker 4: did it stop at the World MMA Awards?

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Speaker 2: Did it stop?

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Speaker 3: It did not, It continues.

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Speaker 4: Can't stop, won't stop would be the response Luke should

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Speaker 2: They want us to win another major award.

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Speaker 3: Yeah? If it gets us a live show in Vegas,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think we're gonna win a Nobel

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Speaker 4: But you know, we have something right now called momentum

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Speaker 4: According to Bretto Komodo, who talked to one Dana White,

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Speaker 2: But what also makes this unique is this has to be.

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Speaker 2: But Luke, two losses and get the third fight.

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Speaker 2: But this is very historically unique.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely I hope we get some straight shooters in those

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Speaker 2: You know we don't need Ane laid bird back here.

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Speaker 2: That is it too soon? If it's too soon, I'll

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Speaker 4: All right, hey, Luke, that Covemine event is obviously a

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Speaker 1: Uh. Probably a lot folks were asking yesterday, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: If even if I granted that Sterling is a threat,

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Speaker 4: I wish we weren't here at the spot having to

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Speaker 4: You know this calendar year as champion, they're gonna be

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Speaker 4: Excuse me, I know you're not watching it because you're

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Speaker 1: But just who could find the lives of American teens interesting?

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Speaker 1: But you've got Volkanowski, Holloway, Sterling Yon, then you've got

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Speaker 1: Luke, Yeah, jan shallna take it on Marina Hadriguez winner,

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Speaker 1: Very good card.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, don't forget uh, you know, mihal Olik shayshek Luke

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Speaker 1: I also have a heart out today, so we gotta

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Speaker 2: Wow. That was that was like, Hey, you're making my

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Speaker 4: Also, of course, we have the only real significant live

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Speaker 2: It's tonight.

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Speaker 4: on Showtime. The twenty first season of Showbox The New

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Speaker 2: Luke, Will you be.

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Speaker 4: Watching live for my debut alongside Robald Marquez, the former

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Speaker 1: Probably not, because I have to watch something with my

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Speaker 1: All this morning again, no problem. Probably probably in Conto, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know you've earned this opportunity. I know you're gonna

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Speaker 1: do great in this opportunity. Just please don't try to

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Speaker 1: I know you want to do that. Just it was

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: See, Farhood has been so caring, loving, welcoming me in

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Speaker 2: He's still going to score from home.

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Speaker 4: But Luke, I think you know he had been there

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Speaker 4: And if you haven't watched a lot of Showbox, look,

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Speaker 4: six are undefeated heading in today. So you love that

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Speaker 4: to kick off a Showbox season, Luis Nunia is looking

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Speaker 4: like a good Dominican young prospect promoted by Samson Lukawitz

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Speaker 4: against Carlos Arietta.

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Speaker 2: A lightweight bout in.

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Speaker 4: The main I'm sorry, a junior lightweightbout in the main event,

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Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty pounds. This should be interesting. Nunia's

447
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Speaker 4: looks to be like he could be the brighter prospect.

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Speaker 4: Arieta hasn't fought the same level of talent.

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Speaker 2: I expect action.

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Speaker 4: But Luke, when you rewatch this, I'm gonna need you

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Speaker 4: to check out that comin event. Undefeated Starling Castro sixteen

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Speaker 4: and oh twelve KOs from the Dominican He's going to

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Speaker 4: step in there against O tar Arenosian from Georgia, and

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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about old Marietta, Luke, and he he

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Speaker 4: gets inside on you.

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Speaker 2: One of those guys who has been matched extremely.

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Speaker 4: Tough through his twelve thirteen pro fights. He's looking to

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Speaker 4: become something right now. He's going to get up in

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Speaker 4: Starling Castillo's kitchen and we're gonna see action in this fight, Luke.

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Speaker 2: So so check.

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Speaker 1: Out these all ten rounders.

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Speaker 4: To the main events ten round eight rounds in the

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Speaker 4: Colemine eight rounds to kick it off, the triple header

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Speaker 4: between Edwin Delo Santo's a big time slugger and his

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Speaker 4: opponent William Foster the third out of my backyard in

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Speaker 4: their Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: So, Luke, you're looking.

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Speaker 4: At hungry guys looking to break through, and BC joined

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Speaker 4: the banter.

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Speaker 2: It should be worth it for your travels.

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Speaker 4: Nine pm Eastern and Pacific this evening from Orlando.

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Speaker 1: I'm fired up with up because you know what should

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Speaker 1: be the first first event of the year.

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Speaker 3: It's a good one of the.

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Speaker 4: Action being able to paint the picture and the soundtrack.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready, Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, dude, I'm about to say, I hope you've done

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Speaker 1: your prep because the opportunities don't come a whole lot

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Speaker 1: nicer than this one. So congrats and again, keep your

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Speaker 1: pants on, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Thank you, Luke.

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Speaker 4: The serious side of BC, you know, the van the

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Speaker 4: Luther Vandro side, right, the side that only a few

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Speaker 4: select people get to see in real life.

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Speaker 2: Luke. Okay, okay, that side's coming.

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Speaker 3: Out, all right, So the least interesting side, all right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, all right, Look we got some quick hitters

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Speaker 4: before we get into dead wrong movie review all.

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Speaker 2: The filler time, so we can get you out of here. Luke,

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Speaker 2: for your heart out. I don't know. You got another job.

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Speaker 1: You gotta know, Mike told you. Mike, my housekeeper got

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Speaker 1: COVID and we all got exposed. And uh so now

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Speaker 1: there's no one for where my kid is stuck here,

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Speaker 1: So now I have to watch my kid and my

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Speaker 1: wife has to work.

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Speaker 2: So I was hoping it was your annual prostate exam, Luke.

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Speaker 2: I was hoping.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, No, I can tell you about the results

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Speaker 1: of that at some point later, But now I gotta

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Speaker 1: watch my kid.

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Speaker 2: There's no one to one more interested in the experience,

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Speaker 2: if not the results. It's it's invasive, to say the least. Luke.

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Speaker 3: Okay, three needles.

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Speaker 4: I mean, did you see that video of that car

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Speaker 4: clausa Godela put up that's out there that was going around.

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Speaker 3: This week, Luke and I should Yeah, that was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Want to talk about that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was very Uh check that out if you're

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Speaker 4: into that.

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Speaker 1: She pleads that she pleads the case. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: say this as nicely as I can. She pleads the

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Speaker 1: case that most young women should at least entertain the

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Speaker 1: idea that sometimes when they go home BC they can

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Speaker 1: enter through the back door, and not so much the ooh.

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Speaker 2: That was so eloquent of you to say that without

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Speaker 2: saying it. Wow, Okay, Luke.

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Speaker 1: And listen, I'm not here to say what door is best. Uh,

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Speaker 1: certainly they're both doors. You know.

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Speaker 2: She's talking about the road less traveled there.

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Speaker 3: Look okay, right yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ohets no poets, no, Luke, all right, hey, no. Leading

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Speaker 2: off quick hitters is a big time news item.

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Speaker 4: You saw a lot of fans, journalists and any when

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Speaker 4: John s Nash is going on nuts on this on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: It has been announced that ESPN and the UFC will

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Speaker 4: be raised seeing pay per view prices to kick off

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Speaker 4: this new year another five dollars higher to seventy four

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Speaker 4: to ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Now the built in controversy is this two years ago?

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Speaker 2: Was it?

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Speaker 4: Dana White said the pay per view price will never

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Speaker 4: rise within this ESPN package, which has been ridiculously.

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Speaker 2: Handsome and financially for them.

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Speaker 4: This is now the second time I believe it's been

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Speaker 4: raised since he made those comments.

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Speaker 2: And this is also out of time, Luke, where the

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Speaker 2: company is making.

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Speaker 4: Money rightfully so congratulations and over fist. Should this announcement

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Speaker 4: be tied into the greater Fighter paid debate at the

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Speaker 4: level that it is, Luke, or is it enough of

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Speaker 4: a topic just to say the average fan is going

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Speaker 4: to be paying out their ass to watch this stuff? Now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is so funny.

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Speaker 1: I mean I can remember back as long as late

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Speaker 1: as two thousand and nine, Dana White being like, pay

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Speaker 1: per view prices will never go up, mark my words,

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Speaker 1: that's on the record. Fuck you if you ever doubt me.

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Speaker 1: And then here we are. According to John ash Toy,

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Speaker 1: your point from fifty nine ninety nine back in twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: that's a twenty five percent increase over three years, which

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Speaker 1: is to say, almost triple the rate of inflation during

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Speaker 1: that time, which is sitting at a whopping nine percent,

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Speaker 1: and we're still what three times that almost? Yeah. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure what to say about this except two things. One,

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Speaker 1: if you think the fighters are gonna see any bit

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Speaker 1: of this, I mean, you know, comically, you're only kidding yourself.

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Speaker 1: There is a question about to what extent ESPN pushed

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Speaker 1: us as opposed to UFC, since they're the ones in

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Speaker 1: control of their own pay per view services. But the

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Speaker 1: point being is this one which is aside from the

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Speaker 1: fighter thing, and aside from just bleeding fans dry, which

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Speaker 1: is what most fans expecting. Here's actually what I would say,

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Speaker 1: which is, if you think that they did this in

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Speaker 1: a way where like they're worried about losing money on this,

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Speaker 1: you are very confused. Not you, UBC, but like the

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Speaker 1: proverbial you out there, which is, fans complain about this

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Speaker 1: every time they raise, and then every time they raise,

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Speaker 1: people will just keep going along with it. They know

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Speaker 1: that you might see you might see online and it

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Speaker 1: might lead to an appreciable amount of growing privacy. But

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Speaker 1: do I think sorry, not privacy. Do I think piracy?

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Speaker 1: Do I think that this is really gonna lose money

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Speaker 1: by doing this? They're gonna make more money no matter what,

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Speaker 1: even if they lose a few subscribers along the way,

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Speaker 1: and all the fans immediately like, I'm never gonna pay

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Speaker 1: for this. Yeah, some of them might try piracy, that's

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Speaker 1: probably true, but in general, the vast majority are just

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Speaker 1: going to keep paying. I have seen people complain since

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Speaker 1: UFC pay per views were forty five dollars, there used

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Speaker 1: to be forty four ninety nine. I remember that distinctly.

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Speaker 1: And now we're sitting in a place where their seventy

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Speaker 1: five dollars. They're doing this because they know they can

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Speaker 1: get away with it, not because they think it will

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Speaker 1: hurt their business quite And this is straight.

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Speaker 2: Up, dear audience.

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Speaker 4: We know you're addicted, we know we have the best product,

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Speaker 4: we know we're coming off our best stretch ever.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna do this, and you're gonna like this.

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Speaker 4: And Luke, I respect your honesty, expect anything less. You're

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Speaker 4: a straight shooter in the same mold as former Nets

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Speaker 4: All Star center Jason Williams.

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Speaker 2: So I can respect that, But Luke, do you.

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Speaker 4: Respect the game of the arrogance in this case where

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Speaker 4: the UFC is just you.

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Speaker 2: Know, they're not here to talk about fight or pay

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Speaker 2: or care about it.

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Speaker 4: They're not here to do anything but be successful businessmen.

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Speaker 4: Is there an eventual line or ceiling where it goes

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Speaker 4: beyond good taste or is this just capitalism at its finest,

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Speaker 4: the American dream playing out in front of you one

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Speaker 4: day after January.

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Speaker 1: Sixth, Yes, it's the latter. It's just them sticking it

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Speaker 1: to you as a customer because they can they can

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Speaker 1: get away with it. I mean, this is why you

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Speaker 1: need competition in the marketplace. Right, Even with competition, you're

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Speaker 1: still going to get pay per view prices that are

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Speaker 1: pushed higher by virtue of the state of that kind

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Speaker 1: of entertainment product where pay per view kind of is.

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Speaker 3: I get that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think if it was more competition, we would

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Speaker 1: never see seventy five dollars pay per views.

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Speaker 3: You would, you would see them.

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Speaker 1: But they would probably be more infrequent, and they would

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Speaker 1: be centered around different kinds of content you want. It's

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Speaker 1: not that I'm wishing PFL to take over Beltore or

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Speaker 1: be at belt or to take over UFC or any

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Speaker 1: of those things. But in general, if you had more

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Speaker 1: promoters and a relatively equal strength ish come, you know,

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Speaker 1: vying for the combat sports fans dollar, I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling that some of the prices around this place might

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Speaker 1: go down a little bit, or at a bare minimum,

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Speaker 1: you might get some more interesting offerings along the way.

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Speaker 1: But dude, they have eighty eighty five percent of high

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Speaker 1: end MMA. They can just do what the fuck they want,

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Speaker 1: and fans can and media they can say I'm never

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Speaker 1: buying this, blah blah blah, And there are our handful

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned who will try the piracy angle would

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Speaker 1: be see, they're doing it because they can do it.

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Speaker 1: Fuck you pay me is really the whole modus apparandi here.

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Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll say on this is some

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Speaker 1: of that might make its way back to UFC. And

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Speaker 1: people say, well, as UFC makes more money, fighters make

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Speaker 1: more money. That's generally true. But here's a pretty clear

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Speaker 1: case where like, it's not their money to spend. If

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Speaker 1: you're gonna raise was it five bucks onto this and

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Speaker 1: I'm assuming fighters will get no cut of that, right.

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Speaker 1: The argument falls apart here about fighter pay because let's

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Speaker 1: say that they use this incremental five bucks extra from

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Speaker 1: every pay per view sold in the upcoming year to

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Speaker 1: build a performance institute in Canada or something to really

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Speaker 1: reinvigorate that market. That might be a great use of money.

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Speaker 1: That actually might be a very important thing to spend.

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Speaker 1: It's not frivolously spent on parties and new cars and

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Speaker 1: stuff like that. This is really good money for the industry,

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Speaker 1: but it's not your money to spend. I can say

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Speaker 1: that the money is not spent in a wasteful manner,

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00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: that is true, but you don't get the choice over

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00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: it to begin with that money should go in in

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Speaker 1: pretty big parts to the fighters, and it won't and

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Speaker 1: so forth.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the people that should get paid first are

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Speaker 4: the celebrity investors first of all, Luke, Okay, so's.

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Speaker 1: The most important ones.

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Speaker 4: Let's make sure you know Tom Brady and Guy Fieri

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Speaker 4: or well, Luke, even if there was an empty pr

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Speaker 4: get off my back gesture, would this be the time

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Speaker 4: for the UFC to say, Okay, we're making five dollars

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Speaker 4: you know per show more, but two fifty of that

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Speaker 4: is going to go into a special pension fund for

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Speaker 4: legendary fighters. I mean, even if that was looked at

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Speaker 4: Luke as the most hollow sort of you know, we

662
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Speaker 4: recognize that we should be doing a little bit more.

663
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Speaker 4: So here's a little bit more. Would that be received? Well,

664
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Speaker 4: is that the right move? Or just say fuck it?

665
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Speaker 4: We're swinging corporate raiders and you know, we know it's.

666
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: Not It wouldn't be the right move because here's what

667
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: I would say. It would certainly be a better move

668
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: than what we have. I would agree, and I would

669
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Speaker 1: imagine that the fighters who are largely silent on this

670
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: and or have Stockholm syndrome would react to it very favorably.

671
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: They would probably react to it and like, oh great,

672
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: this is awesome. Now we don't have to fall on

673
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: our sword to get some kind of whatever it is

674
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: additional monies. Now someone will do it for us. Isn't

675
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: this great? But the reality is, who would you like

676
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: to be in charge of any kind of pension fund

677
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: the UFC on behalf of the fighters or some kind

678
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: of entity who could force the UFC's hand. What would

679
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: get you ultimately more rewards? I'm going to bet that

680
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: on balance, the UFC's hand being forced versus the UFC

681
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: electing to do things would result in a greater pot

682
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: of money or you know, wins or whatever you want

683
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: to call whatever that would be there for the fighters.

684
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: So yes, it would certainly be a better situation over

685
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: the current one to have that. But the best kind

686
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: of situation is going to be one where people whose

687
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: sole job it is to advocate on the interest of

688
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: fighters en mass then creating that process, not being the

689
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: beneficiary of the king's largess.

690
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Speaker 2: Very fair. Take Luke, you're a very you know, accurate

691
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: straight shooter.

692
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: You know, like you are you ordering something off Uber

693
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: Eats while I talk.

694
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: No, I was listening to you.

695
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 4: You know you're you're you know you're like Marvin Gay's fathers,

696
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 4: just straight straight.

697
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

698
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 4: Okay, we've exhausted that line of thinking. Look, let's let's uh,

699
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Speaker 4: let's rotate to the next topic. At propos bkfc's knuckle

700
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: Mania to Luke, which we announced last show, will be

701
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: Mike Perry against Let Me Bang Fame's Julian Lane Luke.

702
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a loaded pay per view for Dave

703
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: Feldman and company because Chet mendis former UFC interim title

704
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: and full challenger, will be on making his bare knuckle debut.

705
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: On this card.

706
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 4: Also Britton Beltran fka Britton Hart Luke.

707
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: She's an effing feeling. For sure she'll be.

708
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: Fighting Luke, I believe for a vacant women's title. So

709
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: has this spiced the you know, the flavor enough for

710
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 4: you to be like, not only will I make sure

711
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 4: I see what happens, but I might watch live.

712
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not watching BKFC. I'll watch that on

713
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: Twitter after the fact. But I will say it's interesting

714
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: who they pull and who they don't. You know, it's

715
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: interesting how like some of these names you think, oh,

716
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: they're destined for mma and blah blah blah. AFC has

717
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: found interesting ways to recruit folks. Didn't so much work

718
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: out in the page Van's at thing, although I had

719
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: sort of understand why they did it in certain ways.

720
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: I suppose Chad Minds is a much more interesting one.

721
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: He's not totally done. He got out of the game

722
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: a little bit early. He has big power, he's fast.

723
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: He you know, may have been on the juice, depending

724
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: on one's perspective. You know, certainly nothing I care about,

725
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: but imagine some others might. Florida, probably not being one

726
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: of them. So if they fight in Florida, you know,

727
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: he can go back to that without much issue if

728
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: that's the thing he's been doing. Either way, it's a

729
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: great signing for them. I actually like it a lot.

730
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: I think they could do a lot of good things

731
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: for him, So I think that is something worth paying

732
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: attention to. But like am I a BKFC P one customer, No,

733
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

734
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 4: I know that, But they're adding enough assorted pieces of

735
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 4: meat rolled up into bread on the rollers in front

736
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: of you as you go to get gas, Luke and

737
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 4: consider buying scratch offs that eventually.

738
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: Luke, I mean I mean, it's gonna it's I'm watching

739
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: this live. I'm in, I'm in, Thank you, Luke.

740
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 4: If Tyson Fury is heard, the call out heard, the

741
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 4: want of UFC eavyweight champion Francis and Gana to do

742
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: something big in boxing. Here's Tyson Fury's offer, I'll box

743
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 4: you in four ounce UFC gloves. Would that be enough

744
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 4: based on the recent tweet by Fury to get you

745
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: to care about this or is this still just a

746
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 4: very bad idea for in Ghano, although you get his

747
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 4: ambition to make a monster pay day.

748
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: Well, let me flip it. What of the possible scenarios

749
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: that they could invent or follow would be the most

750
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: exciting to you?

751
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 3: And why so?

752
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: Including the four ounce gloves here.

753
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: So like any possibility is on the table. They could box,

754
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: they could do mma, they could do boxing game.

755
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: Okay, they're never going to do that.

756
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 4: If it was a straight boxing match, very few of

757
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 4: us would really get behind that because it feels like

758
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 4: and Ghana is just getting set up. You know, if

759
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: it was against God, if it was in Gando, against

760
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: a much smaller fighter, it could bridge the gap.

761
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: But Fury six ' nine and that quick, he's going

762
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: to get handled.

763
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: The idea of going to the Florence Gloves here is

764
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: closing the gap in the same way that Triller triad

765
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 4: is attempting to. Luke, I gotta say the four ounce element,

766
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 4: I would care suddenly. I would care because in Ghanu

767
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: has freaking scary power. Luke, I wouldn't want this for

768
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 4: either guy. I think, stay in your own lane and

769
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 4: keep making your own history here. But that's an attraction, Luke,

770
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 4: That's an attraction people will care.

771
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think if they did the four ounce

772
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: boxing gloves, that actually might produce something kind of interesting.

773
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 3: The other one.

774
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: I mean, all of them would be big, which which

775
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: means all of them would be rare. But you know,

776
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: if Francis can get out of his deal and go

777
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: to Bellator, is it that crazy to think about it at

778
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: that point? I don't think it is. I just don't

779
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: see how that would be an all. We're living in

780
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: a new world. We're living in a new world where

781
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: crossover is much likelier. It's been done before. People are

782
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: trying to figure out new ways. It won't happen as

783
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: long as he's with UFC, but it could very much

784
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: happen beyond that. Especially if like what you know, Tyson

785
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: Fury is talking about like two three more fights total

786
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 1: in boxing, But if he could take an MMA one

787
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: or you know whatever against the MMA opponent, that might

788
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: extend his career as well, because I probably think it's

789
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: an easy payday, So like, there are ways this could

790
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: happen for sure.

791
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: That's yeah.

792
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: I mean, if in Ghanu straight up got out of

793
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: the deal, could you CiCe yourself up to the idea.

794
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: Of him facing the current crop of belt or heavyweights?

795
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 4: I mean, Luke, could you be moved by old Rumble

796
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 4: against Anghanu, Bader against Anghanu Moldovsky hopefully not fad.

797
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: Or I mean, could that get you to care, Luke,

798
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 2: care about what the idea that?

799
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Ganho's not with the UFC, but there are enough

800
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 4: matchups here to keep his career and momentum going and

801
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 4: to keep my interest going.

802
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: Or would you interesting? But interest in what like in

803
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: them doing something?

804
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 2: I guess competition entertainment. Luke.

805
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm just hoping my dogs can keep barking without

806
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: someone outside telling them to stop, you know what I mean,

807
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: just let them just let them bark, you.

808
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: Know, just let it, let them get it out, Luke,

809
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: rig you.

810
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Know, just let them breathe, bro, you know what I mean, like,

811
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: let them do what dogs do, which is they're great

812
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: for podcasting. Anyway. I'm not that I'm just not that

813
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: interested in whatever they could do, Like you're, oh, please

814
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: keep bringing the doorbell. That's the most important part, you know.

815
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: I really just hope that they you know, what they

816
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: should just do. We should just I should just do

817
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: this in the living room. There's really no effective difference

818
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: at this point, you know. Anyway, I don't know what

819
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: we're talking about, but I'm now angry at the state

820
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 1: of my podcasting career because there's someone ringing the doorbell

821
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: and I'm.

822
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 4: Doing the show from a cell phone, Luke, so I

823
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: couldn't be I'm right there with you.

824
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: Look, okay, I'm right.

825
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 3: There, but we are just you know, what are we

826
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 3: doing here?

827
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: What does my skin look like, Luke? Is it? Is

828
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: it puade lobster soup?

829
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean, why would you really you know, you know

830
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: those bags that hold those giant uneaten gross dill pickles.

831
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: Your skin is like that bag, all right.

832
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: You know, Leo, But do you really care about these

833
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: fuckers fighting in four ounce gloves? Like what I watch

834
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: and try to make money off of it because I'm

835
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: a hypocrite, yes, of course, but like, you know, do

836
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: you really care? I mean, oh man, I'm just I

837
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: just can't wait to see what happens. Like I don't

838
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: have that feeling about it.

839
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:25,879
Speaker 2: No, I agree.

840
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 4: I don't want either of them to go this way. Please,

841
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,720
Speaker 4: all right, fight the best, keep going, God your legacy.

842
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: All right, Luke.

843
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 4: We've said a few accurate things in the show, but

844
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: from time to time we tend to get things wrong.

845
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: Luckily for our cynics, our critics.

846
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: We have a segment for that.

847
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: It's every Friday Morningcombat at gmail dot com is the

848
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 4: email for you to reach out, and you better bring

849
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: a receipt, okay, and for you attempt to approach the

850
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 4: throne and tell this award winning duo that they are dead.

851
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Wrong, dead wrong.

852
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 4: All right, Luke, I have a feeling that there's probably

853
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 4: still some dead wrongs lingering from that one solo show

854
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 4: I did where there was a few incorrect facts.

855
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: Sorry, guys, you know I was feeling it in the moment.

856
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: I was going for it, right, Yeah, all right, we

857
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 2: start off with this, Luke.

858
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 4: It's from Harry and Tim Monday's episode two forty five

859
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 4: BC going solo on that ass here we go at

860
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: twenty four fifty five, BC says he didn't watch one

861
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 4: minute of the World Series between the Chicago White Sox

862
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,479
Speaker 4: and the Houston Astros in two thousand and four.

863
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: Damn right, you.

864
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: Didn't, BC, because that was the two thousand and five

865
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 4: World Series.

866
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: BC then says he was a baseball fan at the time.

867
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: I was.

868
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 4: This is also questionable because why wouldn't a baseball fan

869
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: watch that series. It was the White Sox's first World

870
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: Series appearance since nineteen fifty nine, and would become their

871
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: first since nineteen seventeen. The White Sox are a club

872
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 4: who's used to playing second field with the Cubs. But regardless,

873
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: they keep grinding, Hey, that's cute. They are from a

874
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: factory town. If ever, there was one love ut two

875
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: bloated beefcakes. Luke, I'll explain it like this. I think

876
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: baseball is the sport and I was hardcore from eighty

877
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 4: six through you eight. It's the sport where you are

878
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 4: most because of the ridiculously long one hundred and sixty

879
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 4: two game schedule, the most dialed into your own team,

880
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: to the point where you don't even care about the

881
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: rest of the league, with the exception of their very close.

882
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: Division rivals at times.

883
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 4: Now, that doesn't mean I haven't been a national Baseball

884
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 4: fan who was obsessed and got fired up and excited

885
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 4: for anyone in the World Series. But by oh five, Luke,

886
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: when it's suddenly Astros White Sox, that ain't the sexy

887
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: matchup that you can't miss once your team gets eliminated.

888
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: It's just not, Luke. Okay, So I stand up to that.

889
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: I ain't dead wrong with anything except for the year.

890
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: Bro Okay, I think Baseball's okay.

891
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 4: Luke, You're like anything to get me out of here. Okay,

892
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: this is great. Look, let's keep it. And early two

893
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 4: thousands basketball, they want to call me out, My name

894
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 4: is Drew out here in California, huge fan of the show.

895
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: During the Prince of Connecticut Solo Show on December twenty seventh,

896
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: at the twenty five to forty mark, he mentioned that

897
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: the two thousand Western Conference Finals was rigged.

898
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: For the Lakers to win over the Trailblazers.

899
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: It was actually Game six of the two Western Finals

900
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 4: between the Lakers and Kings that Tim Donahey came out

901
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: later and said was rigged in favor of the Lakers.

902
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: BC also mentions Brianshaw's bank.

903
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: Shot three pointer and the third quarter in Game seven

904
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 4: of those two.

905
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: Thousand Western Conference Finals.

906
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 4: I believe he is referencing Robert or He's game winning

907
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 4: three in.

908
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: Game four of two thousand and two the Keiths BC anyway,

909
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: but a.

910
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 4: Diehard Lakers fan, I had to correct the record. Here's

911
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: the thing, guys, I know NBA. I wasn't wrong on

912
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 4: either account. Brianshaw banked in a three to end the

913
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 4: third quarter of Game seven, when the Trailblazers had pulled

914
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: that big lead on the Lakers. I was referencing the

915
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: tail end of the Lakers game where Steve Smith, particularly

916
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 4: trying to cut the lead down from three, got drove

917
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 4: the land and got hammered and no call. It played

918
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: into a stream of slight calls that played in the

919
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: lakers favor and announced and allowed them to win, which

920
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 4: left some beginning the drum roll of is the NBA

921
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 4: trying to manipulate to avoid a final series like the

922
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 4: Astros versus the White Sox and five in baseball where

923
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: you don't have a Now that's it's tough to say

924
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: to Chicago's a big market, but where you don't have

925
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 4: a big sexy team. Two thousand would have been Portland

926
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: versus Indiana. But I get the reference that they're talking about.

927
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 4: This is when that story, that line of thinking went

928
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: full bloom in O two, because throughout that series and

929
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 4: particularly Game six, people feel the referees allowed the Lakers.

930
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: A huge chance to get in.

931
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: So I didn't get the three point a wrong or

932
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: the year I was referencing an earlier reference to the

933
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: same thing.

934
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: I know, you don't care. Can we keep going?

935
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can keep going for sure?

936
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, here we go.

937
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 4: Mikey Danger says that around three minutes of what of

938
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: BC solo episode I don't Know, BC quotes all Apologies

939
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: by Nirvana incorrectly.

940
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: The lyrics are married Buried, not Mary, as in the

941
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: woman's name.

942
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: I would like to sincerely thank BC for mercifully keeping

943
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: his nauseatingly pedestrian musical takes mostly to himself for the

944
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: most part as of late. I'm not trying to be

945
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 4: a music snob, but I'm a lifelong musician and DJ,

946
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 4: as well as having run multiple record stores and nothing

947
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 4: greats on my nerves more than a Johnny Come Lately

948
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 4: like BC get all arrogant about their quote taste even

949
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: though they actually don't have a clue what they're talking about.

950
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 2: This is an undressing Wow, keep up the great work

951
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: and congrats on the award.

952
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 4: I'm a Day one and longtime fan of Luke since

953
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: the promotional malpractice Days Deuces Bitches, Mikey Danger.

954
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: Hey Mikey.

955
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 4: First of all, why don't you get be because this

956
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 4: is another category that whether I had a word wrong

957
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 4: in the nerve on the lyrics of that nineties classic or.

958
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: Not that I know my shit.

959
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're you know, as a old record store

960
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 4: head and a you know, want to be musician on

961
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 4: the side. It's similar Luke to oh you didn't box,

962
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 4: so why are you talking about it?

963
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: Oh, Luke, you didn't fight professional.

964
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: Do you see him as comic book guy from The Simpsons?

965
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: I do, I do, Luke?

966
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, it's probably pretty fair.

967
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, there you go.

968
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: All right.

969
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if I didn't know what I was talking

970
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: about Luke, like you know, Mma, I just started watching

971
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: last year Luke.

972
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 4: So that's you know, that's obviously a topic where I'm

973
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: just like guys, I you.

974
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: Know, I never I have. Yeah. Okay, look this one's

975
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: from Joe. I don't even need to be mentioned here

976
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: in dead wrong.

977
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 4: Just please pass on how it's hilariously ridiculous. Their attempt

978
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: at correctly pronouncing Edinburgh, the capital city of Scotland was

979
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 4: I give Factory Town BC a pass. He was too

980
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: busy doing tabs of burder fat to pay attention in school.

981
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 4: But I thought Luke was supposed to be cultured. Happy

982
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 4: new Year to the team, Thanks for the great cond

983
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 4: Yeah we don't care Anymore's shout out from Leeds in north?

984
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: What is the proper pronunciation? I've forgotten Edinburgh?

985
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: I don't know. You think I carr? He sent a

986
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: YouTube bank, Luke. I'm not going to click on it.

987
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: Maybe I will, I don't know.

988
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: We want me to get Do you want me to

989
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: get spam?

990
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 4: You want me to get Yeah, you want me to

991
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 4: get a Russian wife?

992
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 2: You know what are you doing here? Right? All right,

993
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: I'll click on it, Luke.

994
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,479
Speaker 1: Let's see what's going on, Let's see what they say, right.

995
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: I got a way through this commercial? There we go.

996
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: How to pronounce Edinburgh burgh Burgh Edinburgh Edinburgh.

997
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: Our native English Burgers say, Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Okay, that's cool,

998
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 4: that's cool all right. By the way, I was watching

999
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 4: when Ri banked in that shot. All right, come on,

1000
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 4: shot Branks in this shot or hit the three and

1001
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 4: gave come four? Come on, I know this ship? All right, Edinburgh?

1002
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 4: You think we care, Luke?

1003
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 3: No, we definitely don't care.

1004
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: That that part is true.

1005
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 3: All right.

1006
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 4: Look, maybe this is the maybe right now with the

1007
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: UFC and ESPA just being like, fuck y'all five dollars more.

1008
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 4: Maybe this is that moment for us on m K

1009
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 4: where we're like, you know what, We're an award winning podcast.

1010
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: Do you think we need to get things right? You

1011
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: think we care about that? Uh?

1012
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: We care enough to get to get murdered by our

1013
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: own audience for it.

1014
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1015
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 4: I mean, look at our technical production quality. You think

1016
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 4: we care about anything? Luke would cash in these checks.

1017
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 4: We just had our seventy four to ninety nine moment

1018
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: right there.

1019
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: All right, all.

1020
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 4: Right, Michael says on the January third show, Luke was

1021
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 4: unsurprisingly dead wrong. His noa it all asked, tried to

1022
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 4: say Dustin Poirier's ko addition, Hot Sauce doesn't have ghost

1023
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 4: Pepper in it when it clearly says it on the

1024
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: front of the bottle.

1025
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 2: What are we doing here, guys?

1026
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 4: Tell Luke to get more sleep in some alpha brain

1027
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: in his washed forty two year old life.

1028
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: Damn, Luke, they're coming. They're coming to Joan of arcar Ass.

1029
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 3: They are coming hard, coming hard.

1030
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 1: We should we should do, we should do. We should

1031
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: have some next week in new we should have some

1032
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: ghost Pepper.

1033
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: Are you and me? Okay?

1034
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: That's gonna end badly? Luke?

1035
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: That's the for you? For you?

1036
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 2: Okay? We have a lot of people taking a chance.

1037
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 4: Four different people wrote in Hi guys, Happy New Year,

1038
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 4: big fan of the show, but reaching.

1039
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 2: Out to call both Luke and BC out for being

1040
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 2: dead wrong.

1041
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 4: On January fifth, they both said that Sergio Pettis kod

1042
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: Horegucci in the fifth round several times when discussing their

1043
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 4: Upset of the Year segment. In fact, the knockout came

1044
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 4: at three twenty four of round four. I don't have

1045
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: the exact timestamps that they said it, because they repeated

1046
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 4: it several times.

1047
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: But they're dead wrong. Here chairs to a happy.

1048
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: New Year, all right?

1049
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: Fair enough, we're wrong.

1050
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: I don't think I said the fifth round, but you.

1051
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,399
Speaker 3: Know you probably I definitely did so I'm dead wrong.

1052
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: I mean Luke was dead wrong on his take too,

1053
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: but that's fine.

1054
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 4: Jose says what's up at thirty six fifty five of

1055
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 4: episode two four seven, when referring to Mikhayla Mayer's Fight

1056
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 4: of the Year contender, BC says it was against quote,

1057
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 4: Mama Douche. Is that an escort we don't know about,

1058
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: mister Campbell? Is that your massuse? I believe her name

1059
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: is Hama Douche? Also for Comeback of the Year? No disrespect,

1060
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 4: but is al Joe beating Yan a legit contender? He

1061
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 4: was handedly losing the first fight, and even though unintentionally

1062
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: kneeling down, he made Yan fumble to win away it

1063
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: Jose pronounced the Cambodian way, Luke, Jose is using his

1064
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 4: dead wrong opening opportunity here to actually ask you a

1065
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 4: real question.

1066
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think I didn't hear the question?

1067
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure you'd stopped listening instantly.

1068
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 4: Is al Joe beating Yan this year make him a

1069
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: legit contender for Comeback.

1070
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: Of the Year?

1071
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: Ooh ummm?

1072
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: From Luke being a bach I'm not saying.

1073
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: That having those surgeries think that.

1074
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: Uh no, but it would certainly be a big triumph, Yes,

1075
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it'll qualify for that.

1076
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 4: All right, Luke, Jimmy is here and he thinks he's cute.

1077
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 4: As if I didn't realize, I said Alvarez a lot, Luke,

1078
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? It was like, yeah, okay, Lopez, right,

1079
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 4: he says, Hi, BC and Luke rockold.

1080
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, Thomas, you almost fooled me there. The

1081
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 2: two looks so similar. This guy's got jokes, Luke.

1082
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 4: At twenty three eight of episode two forty seven, during

1083
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 4: Fight of the Year, BC had a stroke multiple times.

1084
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 4: He called Geechee Chandler, Alvarez Chandler, or even Geechee Alvarez.

1085
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 4: He mentioned Alvarez three times. Please hook a brother up

1086
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 4: and tell me where you get your edibles. Wow, definitely

1087
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 4: not Delta. It's at the gas station, Luke. I'm not

1088
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 4: that low class your local DCBBL hit me up.

1089
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: Luke, it's Jimmy.

1090
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 4: I think that was him slyly petitioning you for possible sex.

1091
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: Luke, probably, but that's okay. I'm living for that thing.

1092
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I said a lot Luke.

1093
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 4: But because he fought all those guys and he made

1094
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: damn near fight of the years against each one.

1095
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: Luke.

1096
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: Okay, he did, he did, but you fucked that up Royally.

1097
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 4: Look, I've never seen you this uncomfortable to do morning combat.

1098
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm fine, It's just dude, My kid is I've got

1099
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: a world of work as soon as this is over.

1100
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 3: So you know, are my brain are.

1101
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: You slowly transitioning beads in and out of your anal hole?

1102
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: Luke?

1103
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: What's going on?

1104
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 4: I mean the faces you're making, You're just sort of like, fuck,

1105
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 4: this is where my career is going.

1106
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: This is not I'm just seeing what's in front of me,

1107
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, my weekend is now over, so whatever.

1108
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: Okay.

1109
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 4: Our final one, Luke, is from Kevin, Hi, Luke and BC.

1110
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of the show, but I'm also

1111
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 4: a big fan of getting.

1112
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: The date right.

1113
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 4: At thirty six seconds of your January fifth show, Luke

1114
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 4: said it was December fifth.

1115
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: Fuck you unless you're a time traveling bitch. Love the show.

1116
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 2: Congrats on the award Beast your best Kevin.

1117
00:49:58,080 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: That's funny.

1118
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 3: That's funny.

1119
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough.

1120
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, let's get out of here, says Luke.

1121
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1122
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: Look, I mean, luc are you gonna ask out of

1123
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: your contract after this show? Luke?

1124
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: I feel like no, no, no, dude, Seriously, it's like,

1125
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: you know, everyone's lives and one way or the other

1126
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: have been disrupted by COVID mind certainly much less than

1127
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: many other people's, but it's enough now where I've got

1128
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: a ton of shit I have to do as soon

1129
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: as the show is on.

1130
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 4: I mean, look, you ever been a dirt bag in

1131
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: your twenties in a tenuous relationship and you know you

1132
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 4: probably deserve to get dumped because you're just a dird

1133
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: hole in like every conversation You're like, oh, is that

1134
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 4: a tone that's taking me to that conversation.

1135
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: I don't think I have that issue exactly, but I've

1136
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: got my own.

1137
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1138
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 2: I can imagine that'd be pretty tough for someone.

1139
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, Luke, I guess we're gonna close this aborted,

1140
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 4: sadly forgettable episode of Morning Combat by dipping into this

1141
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: the flight.

1142
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 3: Start next week. I mean, what are we doing?

1143
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 4: We're just going to canceled, And you're like, slowly, just

1144
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: like I'm just gonna let everybody know, I'm kind of

1145
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: done with BC right now.

1146
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a little bit weird.

1147
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: No all in on BC, all in on the BC.

1148
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 4: Homework review, homework assignment. We don't have like a package

1149
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 4: to throw you right, like a graphic.

1150
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 3: You don't do that, thinks, Oh we do.

1151
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 4: Look at this, Luke, what kind of homework do you

1152
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 4: think David A and France gives his students.

1153
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: Working on their gag reflex and shit.

1154
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 4: All right, So, Luke, you had never seen the two

1155
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: thousand camera and Crow inspired directed film Almost Famous, and

1156
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 4: I thought that was a little bit absurd. I saw

1157
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 4: a large level of dismissal feedback from people saying, I

1158
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 4: saw that movie.

1159
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not that good. Why are we doing homework

1160
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: on it?

1161
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 4: Maybe people like me just think it's a really damn

1162
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 4: great seminole film that looks back on the nineteen seventies

1163
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 4: through the lens of a music journalist, which co aligns

1164
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 4: Luke with Cameron Crowe's journey as a teenage Rolling Stone

1165
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: writer following the Allman Brothers, similar to the Commitan character in.

1166
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: This movie following the fake band Stillwater. Now, Luke, what

1167
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 2: did you actually know about this movie?

1168
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 4: Heading in because it does have not only big stars,

1169
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 4: but it's got even bigger cameo star drops, you know,

1170
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 4: an ensemble cast across the board.

1171
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when the movie came out. It

1172
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: came out when I was in the middle of college.

1173
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 1: I think the year two thousand, if I'm not mistaken,

1174
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: So I remember everyone seeing it, people raving about it.

1175
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: You can see here Kate Hudson. I don't know if

1176
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: she's still married by the time, she was dating the

1177
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: lead singer or married to the lead singer of The

1178
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: Black Crows, Chris Chris Robinson. Yeah, and so like this

1179
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: was she was like the girl at the time it was.

1180
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: Cameron Crowe was a much bigger director then than he

1181
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: is now. There was just a lot of it that

1182
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: it was well reviewed. I mean, first I don't know

1183
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: what here's the problem, But the problem was I didn't

1184
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: see movies usually during the school year because I just

1185
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: wasn't really available. And then in the summers I always

1186
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: had temporary active duties, so I never really had a

1187
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: lot of time. And so like I didn't see American

1188
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: Pie until like after college and stuff like that because

1189
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: I missed it being at boot camp and everything. I

1190
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: never got a chance to see it. This is another

1191
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: one of those up until this is a homework assignment.

1192
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 4: Stars of course, Jason Lee and Billy Cruddup as the

1193
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 4: lead singer and guitar player of this fake band, Stillwater,

1194
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 4: Kate Hudson as the groupie Luke, but not a groupie

1195
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 4: because she only does bjays apparently, and of course the

1196
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 4: nerd bomber Patrick Fuget as the lead role.

1197
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 2: Francis McDermond as the mom.

1198
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 4: You got a lot of celebrity drop ins from Mark

1199
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 4: Marin to Jimmy Fallon and Philip Seymour Hoffman and beyond Luke.

1200
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: Let's tee it up to you right away. You watch

1201
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 4: this shit. I called it a seminole classic with many,

1202
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: many sort of big time moments that have crossed into

1203
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 4: our our you know, our language, our generation, our people.

1204
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 2: What do you think after watching it?

1205
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 3: I liked it.

1206
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: I didn't love it quite like you loved it, but

1207
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: I think there's probably some good reasons for that. The

1208
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: first thing I would say is, I mean, this is.

1209
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 3: A really well made movie. It is.

1210
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: The script is excellent, the acting I think I read

1211
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: Francis McDermott and Kate Hudson both got Oscar nominations for

1212
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 1: their roles, which I completely understand. Francis McDermott plays this

1213
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: sort of neurotic but loving mother at a time when

1214
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: people were kind of worried. This was pre Satanic Panic

1215
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: of the nineteen eighties, but you could tell a lot

1216
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: of parents were kind of worried about the direction of

1217
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: society's youth with the explosion of drug culture and everything

1218
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:38,919
Speaker 1: at that time.

1219
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 3: So that was great.

1220
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: Penny Lane is the character, so to speak, that Kate

1221
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: Hudson plays. She's just magical. She looks so young in

1222
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: this movie. She at the time I thought she looked

1223
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 1: kind of old, and now I look back and I'm like, no,

1224
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: she look really young. She plays this character full of

1225
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: nuance and frankly for what she does, wholes miss right

1226
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. And it's really a period piece. As

1227
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: you mentioned that it takes place in nineteen seventy three,

1228
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, I can understand why it came out in

1229
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: two thousands. We see, when we were kids, the thing

1230
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: that you wanted to be if you were famous. If

1231
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: it wasn't a ballplayer, it was certainly a rock musician.

1232
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe if you were rap depending on your upbringing.

1233
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: But for a lot of us of our era, you know,

1234
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: we talked about it before on this show. Dude, rock

1235
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: stations used to be. I mean, these were local gods

1236
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 1: in your market. And then still of course, summer tours

1237
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: are still big, and touring is still big. But when

1238
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: we were kids that rock icons being bigger than life.

1239
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean, rock music is almost dead now, which was

1240
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: funny because they were talking about it. Philip seymore often

1241
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: jokes about it being dead in the movie, and that,

1242
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: of course was nineteen seventy three. Here we are forty

1243
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: plus years later, and it's not quite true. But I

1244
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: guess what I would say is the period piece is interesting.

1245
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: The acting is great, the script is great, and that

1246
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: archetype of what it meant for rock stars to be

1247
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: bigger than life and yeah over the yeah, I mean,

1248
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: all these things were so big when we grew up,

1249
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: and it's and it's the early stage version of that.

1250
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: I just don't find that story a about rock and roll.

1251
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 1: It's very much a period piece now because rock and

1252
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: roll simply has not endured and quite the way that

1253
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: it once was culturally prominent. And some of the love

1254
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: stories were a little bit less interesting to me about

1255
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: like the guy is kind of in love with the

1256
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: grouping and treats her bad, and so he kind of

1257
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: has to learn through this kid to be better to people.

1258
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a weird, muddled story in

1259
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: that sense, but for a period piece, for the acting,

1260
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 1: for the script, for the run time, and for just

1261
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: how well a sweet story is ultimately delivered, because that's

1262
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: what this is, a sweet story about innocent people trying

1263
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 1: to do big things and getting lost a little bit

1264
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: along the way, but then finding themselves afterwards. It's it's

1265
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: it's good. It's really good. It's just not great for me.

1266
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna give it four and a half stars.

1267
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: That's my official rate. Let me just give that out

1268
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: four and a half. Unfortunately, four out of five stars

1269
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: is my official raider.

1270
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 4: Because we closed the segment with our ratings. Plus we

1271
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 4: do it one to one hundred or no, one.

1272
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 3: To ten, we do eight point zero was fine.

1273
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: At eight out of ten, Okay, just just announce it now,

1274
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 2: that's fine.

1275
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 4: Luke look At won the Academy Award for Best Original

1276
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: Screenplay from Cameron Crow. Some of these ensemble performances are

1277
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 4: just incredible. Zoe desk Deschanel as the older sister. I mean,

1278
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 4: there's some great performances, as you mentioned right there. Jimmy

1279
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 4: Fallon is the crazy new manager. I think it's the

1280
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 4: I'm a big classic rock guy. We grew up, Luken,

1281
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: growing up in the eighties and nineties. This era from

1282
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty seven through like nineteen seventy five was like,

1283
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 4: it could.

1284
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: Not have been more romanticized in our youth.

1285
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 4: So to have this sort of time period piece looking

1286
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 4: at what you mentioned sort of the coolest occupation you

1287
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 4: could have, and an inside look on the road from

1288
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 4: this young kid's perspective as of what fourteen fifteen year

1289
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 4: old That's who we kind of were anyway at that age,

1290
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 4: even though when this movie came out, you and I

1291
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 4: were certainly twenty twenty one to twenty two around that area,

1292
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 4: but you could relate to that, and that's such a romanticized,

1293
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 4: nostalgic glory period. To see this band go out on

1294
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 4: the road and you know, open for led Zeppelin and

1295
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. There's a cool factor in there, Luke,

1296
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 4: that you get sucked into. The soundtrack's fantastic. The right

1297
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 4: songs hit at the right moment. But I also say

1298
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 4: it's not without criticism or the idea that for as

1299
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: great as it was in the foundation they built, it

1300
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 4: could have been better. Luke my biggest hold up, and

1301
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 4: upon rewatching it again last night, and I'd watched it

1302
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 4: about a month ago for the first time in a

1303
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: while as well, the lead actor who plays the quasi

1304
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 4: young Cameron Crow, he's just not likable, Luke. And that's

1305
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: a big stumbling block that even with him fighting to

1306
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 4: show Penny Lane that she doesn't have to be a

1307
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 4: whore and show the lead singers of this band that

1308
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 4: they don't have to be jerks to people.

1309
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: It's Russell Harrion, you're talking about this, Russell Hammond. You're

1310
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, the kid who plays the writer. Oh no,

1311
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: the kid who plays the writer is William Miller is

1312
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: the character's name.

1313
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: I don't think he's likable, Luke.

1314
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: I get that they're they're pushing hard, naivety to try

1315
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 4: to put across this wholesome message that these non wholesome

1316
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 4: but still young rock stars could condbite on. But I

1317
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 4: cheer for him early when he's when he's trying hard

1318
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 4: to act the part. But I think he becomes h ritable.

1319
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 4: I become irritable watching him. Is that is that overblown? Luke?

1320
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what that word means, but irritable you mean,

1321
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean he becomes.

1322
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: He becomes irritating to cheer for.

1323
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 4: He is in a position in this movie where he's

1324
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 4: the hero Luke and following his journey at some point

1325
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 4: becomes a little bit lame.

1326
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: What does that say about me?

1327
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't like his story so much either. I mean,

1328
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: he was young and nerdy and ambitious, and he was

1329
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: kind of everything that Rocket Roll was supposed to not be,

1330
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: which is why he was the way he was, which

1331
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: means that his growth is certainly possible in the story

1332
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: and does happen.

1333
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 3: He does.

1334
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: He appears to be a centering force for everyone, which

1335
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: is which is an interesting place that he plays. But

1336
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: he's otherwise not that interesting, Like you don't read anything

1337
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: he writes in the story. People tell you that it's good,

1338
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: but you don't ever actually see it, so you just

1339
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: kind of have to take everyone's word for it. That

1340
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: he's the sort of dynamic viewer of things. Because the

1341
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: questions he asked the band, like can you write a

1342
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: love song when you're sad. It's like, Okay, I mean

1343
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: this is the guy who got the front cover of

1344
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone, this fucking zero you know, like what were

1345
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: they putting on rolling Stone back then?

1346
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 3: You know?

1347
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the story is a huge.

1348
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: Under I want to go work for the MacLife with

1349
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: Oscar Willis and ask bad questions like that all the time.

1350
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: You can.

1351
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: I just feel like it comes down to casting in

1352
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 4: a way. This is a very sharp, you know, inside

1353
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 4: baseball criticism. But it's Cameron Crowe presenting his own real

1354
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: life story and making it.

1355
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: As cool as it can possibly be.

1356
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 4: Yet I think he overplayed his hand in trying to

1357
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 4: get this relatable, wholesome thing. I don't know if he

1358
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 4: was trying to represent that as himself or if he

1359
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 4: thought it would hit better. But I need William Miller

1360
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 4: is just not cool, Luke, and I need a little

1361
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 4: bit of that of something to grasp onto. I mean,

1362
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 4: why do you know films of the seventies succeed these

1363
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 4: film noir classics that I'm watching right now, Neo noir,

1364
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 4: These dirty, grimy films that have these you know taxi

1365
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 4: driver that has this Travis Bickle guy that they somehow

1366
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 4: make you cheer for at the end, even though he's

1367
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 4: completely ridiculously unredeemable in so many ways, I still find

1368
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 4: a way to cheer for him because it's so well done.

1369
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: William Miller sucks, Luke, all.

1370
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, he's ling. He's a boring American teen who

1371
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything with him.

1372
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: He's like that nerd in Dazing Confuse, who does this? Mitch? Mitch,

1373
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: you know, and the guy that you're supposed to cheer

1374
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 2: for that you know, hey.

1375
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 4: Man, you have a you know, yeah, it'd be a

1376
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 4: lot cooler if you did, right. I mean, that kid

1377
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,479
Speaker 4: suck too, Luke. Okay, wow. But here's why it wins, Luke.

1378
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 4: It captures this period perfectly. It captures cool perfectly, and

1379
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 4: I felt coming in that challenge for you. From my

1380
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 4: vantage point, part of what makes this movie so great

1381
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 4: to me is I think Stillwater kicks some ass as

1382
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 4: a cool fake band. You get to see the inside

1383
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 4: of their head and this rise from something they love

1384
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 4: to do to possible crossover fame. And I look at

1385
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 4: the inside camera view that we got of this fake

1386
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 4: band's travels and dealing with all of that as completely

1387
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 4: interesting and enjoyable and entertaining. But if you don't have

1388
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: that same feeling about that band, Luke, you may exit

1389
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 4: this movie going, Okay, it was cool, it was.

1390
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: Wholesome, but it's kind of lame in the end.

1391
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 4: Did you have those Steel Water Stillwater superfan vibes?

1392
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: I think they're cooler than the Black Crows, Luke.

1393
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: No, I didn't care about their music at all. It

1394
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: didn't do anything for me. And I thought their stupid

1395
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: battle over merch was boring. It was one of the

1396
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: low parts of the movie. It's like, du Their sound

1397
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 1: wasn't interesting to me at all. You don't like that roots.

1398
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: Rock, blues based, but yet like there's almost an all

1399
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: mixed with sort of the Blacks.

1400
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: I've been to an Alman Brothers concert I saw. I

1401
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: saw Drive by Truckers.

1402
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 3: Open for them.

1403
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: I didn't like the people in attendance that I don't

1404
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 1: like that music very much. No, it doesn't do shit

1405
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 1: for me, like the Black Crows type music, which is

1406
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: a little more upbeat when what you're talking about, but

1407
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: still high tempo.

1408
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 4: But so, you did you feel at any point during

1409
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 4: this movie, once you got to the meet, once you

1410
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 4: got to okay, this is what BC talked up and

1411
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 4: teased up that you felt misled or over sold or

1412
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 4: you felt damn, my co host is a bitch.

1413
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: No, they made a good movie here. I've been very

1414
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: clear about that. They made a good movie. When this

1415
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: was over, I was like, I was a good movie.

1416
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: That was that was really.

1417
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 3: Well it was.

1418
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: It was well done, it was And again the acting performances,

1419
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: to me, like, what's the strongest overall part of this

1420
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: movie the cast and the acting performances. Dude, even someone

1421
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: as minimal as Lester Bangs who is this film critic

1422
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: or sorry, movie critic or what am I saying?

1423
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: Music? The editor of Cream magazine.

1424
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: Cream magazine, and he played played by Philip Seymour Hoffmann. Dude,

1425
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: he kills it in this movie too, and he's not

1426
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: in it for very much, even those phone calls he

1427
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: would have with with William on the road where they

1428
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: were just great. Like, the acting performances is what sells this.

1429
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: The story is nice, the direction is good. The story,

1430
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: the sort of the the moral lessons are a little

1431
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: bit simple and whatnot. So that's why I can't give

1432
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 1: it a great review. But every piece of it is

1433
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: well made just enough where I can see why it's

1434
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 1: so well liked by so many people, including By the way,

1435
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: my wife loves this movie.

1436
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 3: I told her I was.

1437
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: I told her I was watching this for homework and

1438
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: she was like, oh man, this is a great movie.

1439
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 3: You'll love it.

1440
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 4: So so you're saying this is a chick movie that

1441
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 4: BC got caught up in the roots rock cool factor.

1442
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 4: But look, I think the reason why I did is

1443
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 4: it has three iconic sort of crossover viral moments.

1444
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: I think in it. Am I overplaying it?

1445
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: Can you name the three Luke viral crossover moments.

1446
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: Or just moments?

1447
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 4: It has three, in my eyes, three indelible moments where

1448
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: you're like, instantly people know that's that scene.

1449
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 2: That's what happened. It became part of our lexicon. Am

1450
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: I overplaying this? Luke? Here they are? You want me

1451
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 2: to tell you?

1452
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: So let me see if I can guess one of them.

1453
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: One of them is when he tries to get in

1454
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: the first time with the band aids backstage but gets

1455
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: in with still water.

1456
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 3: Is that one of them?

1457
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: No? I was thinking, no that, I wasn't thinking that,

1458
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: but that's the coo last moment. Okay, I was thinking, Luke,

1459
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: the I am a Golden God standing.

1460
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: Upon a top of the Jebul hops and.

1461
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 4: Diving in is a highly referenced great moment, and the

1462
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 4: other two come from the plane.

1463
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: Ride, Luke.

1464
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 4: First off is the scene along to Tiny Dancer by

1465
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 4: el and John.

1466
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:42,959
Speaker 2: Luke.

1467
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 4: I won't say that every time you watch that scene

1468
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 4: upon rewatch you get the same fields. But you gotta

1469
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 4: admit that's a great scene that takes.

1470
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: A eighth Wait, but that's not in the hold on,

1471
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: but that's not in the plane they sing tiny Dancer

1472
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: all in.

1473
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 2: The bus, in the bus, correct, great, great dead wrong

1474
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 2: in the moment right there they sing that in the bus.

1475
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 2: You're right, Luke. That instantly became.

1476
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 3: Like Tiny Dancer had it.

1477
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: Do you remember? Do you remember in two thousand Tiny

1478
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 1: Dancer had a resurgence as a song art because of

1479
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: the movie.

1480
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 3: That's right.

1481
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 2: So it's not that people that know about that Elton

1482
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: John song.

1483
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 4: But it was not considered in that upper core of

1484
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 4: his you know, of his instant recognizable greatest hits. So

1485
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 4: this is a song, this is a moment that just

1486
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 4: they did that song great. I mean they they made

1487
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 4: that song look as cool as it possibly could. The

1488
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 4: other one, of course, Luke is the plane ride from

1489
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 4: Hell and the around the Horn deathbed confessions from each person,

1490
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 4: including Jimmy Fallon's character admitting he had killed the man,

1491
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 4: and one.

1492
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 2: Guy saying that he was gay, and then the other

1493
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: guys saying that they cheated on the other guy's wife.

1494
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it got pretty crazy there, Luke. Once they

1495
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: realized they weren't going to die. That's a hell of

1496
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 2: a movie moment right there.

1497
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: Yes, that was a nice moment. It was all very artificial,

1498
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: but it kind they made it work in the end. Actually,

1499
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: I thought that was a good part. Although he didn't

1500
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: admit he killed the guy, he admitted he didn't know

1501
01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: if he was dead or alive.

1502
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 3: He just left.

1503
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: So that's how I'm gonna leave this show. I don't

1504
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: know if I don't know if BC's alive or not,

1505
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: but I'm out of here. So that's all right.

1506
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 4: Well, Luke, you already showed your hand. You give it

1507
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 4: an eight point zero out of ten.

1508
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: I think that's solid. I think that's that's a solid b.

1509
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, from the things that you don't like about it,

1510
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 4: for you to retain an eight, that's pretty solid.

1511
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: That means that you got the flavor of the formula

1512
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: that they were cooking up, and I enjoy it.

1513
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

1514
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I would watch it again. Strong performances.

1515
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: I just can't complain about it. Did it move me

1516
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: in the way that it has moved you know, I

1517
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: can't say that I had that experience. But it's too

1518
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: good of a movie to give three three and a half.

1519
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: It's just better than that, and I acknowledge it, Luke.

1520
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 2: I gave it a nine point one.

1521
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 4: I think it's insanely rewatchable, but yet close enough to

1522
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 4: being a great, great movie, meaning it won the Academy

1523
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 4: Award for Best Original Screenplay. Like it was as close

1524
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 4: to being perfect in terms of it's just watchability but

1525
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 4: also well done. It didn't quite get there. You heard

1526
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 4: my beefs about it some parts of it, But there's

1527
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 4: just it's so damn iconic. It just captures that period

1528
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 4: perfectly across the board. You and you feel something, Luke,

1529
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 4: You feel like you were there, and it does.

1530
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 1: It does, and you get why, you get the way

1531
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 1: in which popular cultural figures were ordered at that time

1532
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: in society. But I've just sort of moved on from that.

1533
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 1: It's such a such a long ago thing.

1534
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: You know, I'm still living at Luke.

1535
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 4: It's still real life to me, so insanely rewatchable. I

1536
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 4: enjoyed it each time.

1537
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 2: But maybe we can get a cooler lead. I don't

1538
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: know if that guy's ever acted again, Luke. I hope

1539
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 2: I don't never see him again.

1540
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: William Fuggett, Yeah, I mean William Miller. Is that his name,

1541
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: William Fuggett. I mean, no, Patrick Fuggett. You're seeing all

1542
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 1: those all those signs when you enter Jersey forget about it. Yeah,

1543
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: that's this guy's last week.

1544
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 2: About this episode two?

1545
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 4: What a what a shit stain, Luke on the great

1546
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 4: pair of underwear that has been our two plus years

1547
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 4: of morning combat.

1548
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: Well, listen, they can't all be We knew they'd be

1549
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:06,840
Speaker 1: bad during this period. The fight starting next week, we'll

1550
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: be all right.

1551
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 2: My skin looks horrible in this light.

1552
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 4: I mean, I ultimately I blame Jay Aaron Luke because

1553
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 4: I'm still using the.

1554
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: Travel Hey, why don't you wear a white hat and

1555
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: then midlife crisis No excuse me, a white shirt and

1556
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: a midlife crisis hat. That way we can make your

1557
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: face look fatter, Luke, there's been.

1558
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 4: A lot of talk about bec's eyebrows being gone and

1559
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 4: people this seems to be a topic. Luke, are they

1560
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 4: going you don't have thick eyebrows to begin with.

1561
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: Or dark eyebrows.

1562
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: It's very true.

1563
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 3: That's true.

1564
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 4: And the guy that cut my hair the other day,

1565
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 4: and by the way, again, I don't think this is

1566
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 4: a good looking haircut. It's an ashole haircut. I had

1567
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 4: to get into match my lack of a beard so

1568
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 4: I didn't look horrific, and he did.

1569
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 3: So here's for you.

1570
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: He goes, do you want me to do your eyebrows?

1571
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: And I'm just I thought he meant the unibrow, you know,

1572
01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: if there was a if there was even.

1573
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 4: A can't sloup that there was a hair growing there,

1574
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 4: and he he took off the color.

1575
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean they're supposed to trim your eyebrows

1576
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 1: because you're an old man, but you're supposed to pluck

1577
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: the hair in the middle. You don't want to shave

1578
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: the one in the middle. No, I shall pluck your brow.

1579
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 2: I don't need a uni brow. I don't air hair.

1580
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: I get that shit out of there.

1581
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, yeah, you gotta trim your ear hair and

1582
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: you gotta get the when you're an old man, you

1583
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: have to tell the ladies or whoever cuts your hair. Yo,

1584
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: I gotta I'm old. Please give me the old man treatment.

1585
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: And then they might just get the lawnmower and cut

1586
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: your disgusting balls. You never know, you just never know

1587
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna go.

1588
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 4: Uh, Luke, Today's Friday Showbox tonight.

1589
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 2: Thank you for everyone for the great support and well wishes.

1590
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 4: Are you going to the Morning Combat brand New Jersey

1591
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,599
Speaker 4: City Studio on Monday?

1592
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 2: Are you gonna meet me there?

1593
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 4: You?

1594
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident I'm gonna make it. I don't have

1595
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: any symptoms. I'm playing it safe, overly safe, just to

1596
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: be cautious.

1597
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 3: But I think I'll be there. I think it'll be fine.

1598
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 4: There's there's rumors of a resume review that will be

1599
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 4: filmed that could shake you.

1600
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: The course of his and I had a conversation with

1601
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: our boss last night. He called me, I have an

1602
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 1: idea I want to run past you.

1603
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 3: I think it's good. I think you'll like it.

1604
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 2: Which boss you talk to? Sam?

1605
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: Sam? Sam called me last night.

1606
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, with Sam Bee, it's a guarantee.

1607
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: Luke, that's right, that's right, certainly is okay.

1608
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 4: I'll be there, then Luke, we should do I want

1609
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 4: to do in Ghanu, but you're like, no, we aren't

1610
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 4: doing Ghanu.

1611
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Here's the problem. If folks want no, no,

1612
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: if folks want us to do the in Ganu resume review,

1613
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: we can, And of course it would feed the curse

1614
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,800
Speaker 1: because I think that Goan is going to win. But

1615
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: here's the problem, and I mean this genuinely. This is

1616
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 1: his first title defense. It's a pivotal fight, it's a

1617
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: huge fight, but it's his first title defense. It's like,

1618
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the right time for it,

1619
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 1: but if you want to do it, we'll do it.

1620
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: I do well. I think he has enough exciting fights.

1621
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 4: There are enough fights, and most of them have been

1622
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 4: super exciting that there's we've seen enough of him, and

1623
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 4: we've seen some some highs and lows of him that

1624
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 4: that's the point of this to talk about how somebody

1625
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 4: grew from that to get to this point. The only

1626
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 4: I would have a different amount of of reason for

1627
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 4: not wanting to do him is just that I think

1628
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 4: he showed so much advancement Againstepe in the rematch that

1629
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 4: I kind of want to see if it's going to

1630
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 4: get even even more first, you know what I mean,

1631
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 4: I kind of want to see if he can, if

1632
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 4: he can.

1633
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: Show us even probably we'll probably do it and it

1634
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 1: will and it will feed the curse because I do

1635
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: think that I think Gon's gonna win, So we'll see

1636
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: how it goes.

1637
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 4: I still need to see God take big time strikes

1638
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 4: to the chant and keep coming living.

1639
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 1: I don't think listen, if if France's lands on him clean,

1640
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: then it's over. You know. I don't think that there's

1641
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: anybody who can take a Francis punch clean.

1642
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 3: The question is will he take one clean? I'm guessing not.

1643
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 1: But we'll see.

1644
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 3: You're right. The margin of error is not high, it

1645
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 3: is at all, by the way.

1646
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: And if you and by the way, folks, folks should

1647
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 1: send us that morning commat at gmail dot com if

1648
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: you want to see a hot sauce review or whatever

1649
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: else you want us to do in studio, let us know.

1650
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: I have an idea. I want to run it past you.

1651
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: But is this an studio idea for this next week?

1652
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 3: Yes? In studio idea? That's right.

1653
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 2: Can we talk about it now? On error? We don't

1654
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: let we can't do only.

1655
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: I have a couple of different methods to make it work,

1656
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: and I want to see which one you like better.

1657
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 3: So we do that behind the scenes.

1658
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 4: Hey, Canadian friend Eric Aaron Bronstadter best, you know, great guy,

1659
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 4: I have met.

1660
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,759
Speaker 2: Him, Luke. Send me a nice care package of Vinyl?

1661
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: What a great guy?

1662
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 4: Right?

1663
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: He doesn't send me ship.

1664
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: Perfectly curated to my interest? What a nice guy?

1665
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 4: You know?

1666
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: Happy holidays? What I mean?

1667
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 1: You know, are you gonna watch it?

1668
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 3: Are you gonna watch in conto this week?

1669
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: No?

1670
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 2: And I think that says a lot about what he

1671
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: thinks about you.

1672
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 3: Luke, so you know, probably does fuck that guy?

1673
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 2: All right?

1674
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 4: Uh?

1675
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: Luke? Anything else you want to tell a story? What

1676
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 2: do you go come?

1677
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 1: Sydney Sidney Platier, who is the first black man to

1678
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 1: win an Oscar for best He has died at the

1679
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: age of ninety four. If you have never seen a

1680
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: million things he's done, and he and it was a

1681
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: big thing he did as well. But to me, the

1682
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 1: most impressive performance of his career, which is saying something,

1683
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: is a Raisin in the Sun, which you can watch

1684
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: on YouTube if you've never seen, which is a famous

1685
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: play obviously, but his acting in it is.

1686
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 3: Next fucking level.

1687
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 2: Would you say, guess who's coming to dinner? That's him? Right,

1688
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: that's his most iconic girl?

1689
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: Is that right? Is he that guy?

1690
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: I think so?

1691
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: At sixty seven? Was that Sydney pot, Yes it was.

1692
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: I would still say Raisin in the Sun is bigger

1693
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: in terms of what he's done. But yeah, he's done

1694
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 1: some big fucking things.

1695
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 2: And now he's gone Luke.

1696
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 3: And now he's dead, and that's the part that you

1697
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 3: focus on.

1698
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 4: Well, Luke over his over his career in life, he

1699
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 4: was dead, right you know what I'm saying.

1700
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, you won't.

1701
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 2: You won't see him showing.

1702
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 3: Up in our seconds, all right, No, you certainly won't.

1703
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 3: This family there you go? All right?

1704
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: Can we end this?

1705
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? That got awkward real fast?

1706
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 3: Right?

1707
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: All right?

1708
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, Uber driver, I don't really want to hear.

1709
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 2: About your family, all right? Can you just take me

1710
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 2: to the finish line? Okay? Thanks for our staff.

1711
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: I will point out on my Uber app like quiet

1712
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: preferred when I booked my car, and they'll be like,

1713
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: how's your day going, I'm like quiet preferred. Yeah.

1714
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. For our great staff at Malco.

1715
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 4: Who dealt with my anger over my failing technological advancing

1716
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 4: to Showtime, CBS Sports, our great team to the fast

1717
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 4: expansive audience of donks out there who can who can

1718
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 4: actually help us out by going to sports podcasts what

1719
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 4: is it Sports sport.

1720
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 3: Pod Podcast Awards, doc.

1721
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 4: Sports Podcast Awards dot Com and which Morning Combat is

1722
01:15:55,479 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 4: up for Best Combat Sports Podcast? Some heavy hit or well,

1723
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 4: we're up against Chris Jericho, Luke, We're up against Ariel Hawane.

1724
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 4: This is a fight, right, We're up against some some

1725
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 4: big UK boxing ones.

1726
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 2: But you can, you can.

1727
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 4: You want to help our future stay profitable and in

1728
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 4: live and direct, do a live show this summer.

1729
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 2: We can get there if we keep if we keep

1730
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 2: winning this hardware. So there you go.

1731
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 4: Look, that's all I got to say. By our merch

1732
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 4: Morningcombat dot Store. You can look as pasty as I

1733
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,600
Speaker 4: do with this great T shirt on.

1734
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: First of all, I will say this, watch BC on

1735
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: Showbox tonight if you either like me, catch it on

1736
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: DVR or watch it live. But either way, watch it,

1737
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: watch that ship. I can't wait to see how you

1738
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: look on that Probably stupid, but you will sound good

1739
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: because you do no boxing, so that.

1740
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 2: Will be blotchy and bloated. It's Brian Campbell. Here we go.

1741
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: Just don't make any might as well be walking on

1742
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: the sun here Raoul mark as if you know what

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01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 4: Sometimes and your thirty day free trial, hey do it

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01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 4: for BC.

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01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: Right now's the time sign on? You got nothing? What

1747
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 2: are you risking? Right?

1748
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 3: Nothing?

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01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: So we'll watch see there get showtime and uh we'll

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01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 1: talk about that on Monday. And I will also say

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01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: to the audience, yes, the last couple of episodes of

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01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: the show just been the worst pieces of shit. Ever, however,

1753
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,559
Speaker 1: what I will also say is the fights start next week.

1754
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna be in studio next week. The show of

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01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: this is the hangover period. By the way, in Columbia,

1756
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: do you know people don't work between Christmas and January tenth?

1757
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: They just have off.

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01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,600
Speaker 2: That's great, and that nuts. That's how you keep a

1759
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 2: family happy.

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01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 4: It's how you recharge and are in our society, Luke.

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01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 2: They're oh god, yeah, that's hey.

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01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: Well you've got you've got preparations to get ready.

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01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 2: For So I know that we've been This is my

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01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 2: final point.

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01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 4: I know that you know I've been a bit crazy

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01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 4: to think we could put my face on a Hawaiian

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01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 4: shirt and sell out.

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01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: That we can put a drug rug out there and

1769
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: sell out if we did.

1770
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 4: BC mid Life Crisis, Randy Couture, feedo castro hats with

1771
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,959
Speaker 4: like an MK logo, Am I crazier?

1772
01:17:59,000 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: Or that shiit move? Luke?

1773
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: It would move?

1774
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: I would like to tell you that it wouldn't move

1775
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:08,240
Speaker 1: because it's dumb, but it would move because it's dumb.

1776
01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1777
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 2: Another sellout just waiting to happen.

1778
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: All right, dude, chere for can we end this shit?

1779
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 3: I gotta go.

1780
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 4: Sorry for Luke Thomas. I'm Brian Campbell. Thank you for

1781
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 4: your patronage. Two words for you on the way out.

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01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 2: We out

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01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 4: H