WEBVTT - Adam Rippon on Persistence, Failure, and Spinning 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.440 My name is Jeffreys Z Carrion, and you're listening to 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:09.000 four Courses with Jeffrey Zarrian from I Heart Radio and 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.479 four Courses. I'll be taking you along for the ride 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:13.960 while I talk with the top talent of our time. 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.840 In each conversation, I focus on four different areas from 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.520 my guests life and career. And during those four courses, 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:23.959 I'm going to dig deep and uncover new insights and 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.080 inspirations that we can all use to fuel ourselves to 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.800 push forward. My guest for this episode is a world 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:34.400 class athlete an Olympian figure skater. He won the bronze 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.199 medal in the two thousand eighteen Olympic Winner Games and 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:40.360 was the first openly gay man to qualify for the U. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.800 S team. Since retiring from competitive skating, he's been on 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.200 Dancing with the Stars and co host a comedy show 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:50.040 with none other than Snooky. Without further delay, let's get 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:55.840 into my conversation with Adam Rippon. Jeffrey. This is my 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.520 honor and my pleasure. The only thing that I'm mad 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.000 about is that I can't have a cigar with you. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:06.679 You like cigars, no, but I would. I would still 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.560 have one with you. Are you kidding? For a first course, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.640 I wanted to ask Adam about overcoming some serious challenges 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:16.800 as a kid. He was born nearly deaf at birth, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.840 his appendix burst when he was just five, and he 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.560 struggled with a severe respiratory condition. I wanted to know 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:25.920 how in the world did he turn all that into 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.959 an incredible skating career. So I had to ask you. 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.640 I was reading about your mom and your upbringing, and 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:35.240 I was, you know, I always think about like, I'm 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.360 very much in a nutrition and health and obviously this 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.200 we we talked food too on the show, but you know, 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.400 you had some really serious challenges as as a kid 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.880 growing up with your health, and then you got into 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:50.240 the most why. I was just watching at two thousand 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:51.960 and eight Olympics. I watched it a couple of times, 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:53.680 and we'll come in on that later, but I was 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:58.400 watching the physicality. I'm like, how in God's name did 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:03.520 you go from how you started to be in such shape? 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.280 You know, you're already thirty one, so there's not like 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.560 I mean, at the point where you were skating. You 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.400 were skating that could probably like you know, in your 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.960 early teens, a late teens, and this how did that? 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.480 How did you recover all those things? I mean, that's 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.240 just amazing. Well, I think, um, when I was young, 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.480 like when I was super young, I was always sick, 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:27.680 and um, I was in and out of the hospital. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.320 I mean for a really young kid, it felt pretty often. 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.200 So like I remember like missing chunks of preschool in 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.919 kindergarten because I was in the hospital. But like a 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:43.400 good Irish immigrant from Scranton, Pennsylvania, I was resilient. And 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:49.560 I said no, I said, listen, those freeze dried potatoes 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.480 I've been eating for the past five years. They are 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.240 going to kind of get me through this. And they did. 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.960 And I actually, by the time I was six, I 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:02.000 was a body made of canned green beans and fish sticks. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.720 And that's kind of what really got me through to 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:08.280 where I am today. And is that why your mom, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.720 Kelly was was that because of all the travel you 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.520 did to practice what was dining like, I mean, what 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:17.560 what happened in the kitchen at your house? I mean, 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.200 so Okay, by the time I was fifteen, I wasn't 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.880 living at home anymore. I was living with like different 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.239 families and stuff. So I mean, I think it's funny 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:29.280 to think about like what dinners were like in the 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:32.800 early nineties when I was like growing up, because you know, 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.520 they we had like a lot of Hamburger helper and 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.839 so many of the like iconic nineties dinners stuff. I'm 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.760 one of six, I'm the oldest, so like they were 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:44.880 always like young babies around when I was growing up. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:48.000 So my mom it was like truly like getting a 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:51.320 cafeteria together when we would have dinner. And then when 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.120 I started moving around, I lived with a lot of 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:56.320 different families and got to kind of experience what their 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.040 cuisine was like. And then I lived with my Russian 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.840 coach for a while. Also I lived with her for 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.320 a few years, and so then I was really having 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.080 a lot of like different like Russian dishes that like 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.040 now when I see them, I get that like, oh 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.360 my god, those are my childhood dishes. So which ones 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:19.039 which dishes? And stuffed cabbage, yeah, stuffed cabbage, the parogis 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.520 and then all of these. A lot of soups and 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:28.760 I think that like good, yes, and like every soup 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.520 had like a grain or something in it and to 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.280 make it heavier, and you could tell like this is 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.280 like Soviet, like we need to make it all, they 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.599 have the biggest punch, and so there's so many different 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.279 like vegetable soups. There's one vegetable soup. I can't remember 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.600 what it was. It was my favorite. So like that's 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:48.560 a tragedy for me that I can't remember, but it's 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.240 how I realized that beats are good because I would 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:55.960 have borsh My mom was Polish and Russian, and I 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.600 remember the soup shues to make, and she made beats soup. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:05:01.600 She made barley soup. And I also remember that they 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.120 were just as good cold as they were hot, so 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.359 if the thing ever cooled down, there was no problem. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:08.640 It would just so like it would fill you up. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.720 And I imagine when you were having practice that Elena 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.240 would like, you need, you need my soup. You have 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:19.400 practice four hours she would There was a time, and 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.159 I think that you will appreciate this that I was 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.760 making this effort that like Elena, my first big coach, 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:29.240 she made this one soup. I can't remember what it was, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.960 but it was delicious, and I was watching very carefully 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.080 how she did it, and I was like, when I 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.760 go home, I'm going to make it for everyone. So 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.919 I started boiling, like the vegetables and I was like 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:44.000 making a stock and I just kind of came to 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:47.400 this crossroads of like I couldn't remember if I was 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:51.840 just supposed to boil the vegetables because like they just 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.120 needed to get softer or like what I just I 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:57.839 blinked and I well, you know, I'll say I cracked 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.760 and I couldn't handle the pressure of making this soup 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.240 because I took the vegetables and I was like, okay, 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.120 the vegetables, they were just supposed to be soft. So 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.560 I took the whole stock and just dumped the whole 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.680 stock out, which I think I needed it, because when 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.159 I tasted the soup it was bad. I'll be honest. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:20.000 But you're hearing great shape now. So something worked, right? 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:28.320 Something work? Yes, yea? So from from from TV dinners 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:32.400 to Russian staples to what is your favorite right now? 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.520 So you're like, what is your grab and go? What 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.400 is your dinner? When you go out? Where do you go? 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:39.960 I mean it's endless, right l A as greatest food? Yes, 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:43.240 it does. I think here in l A like fish 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.040 is so good, it's always so fresh. But like I 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.360 think also like I never liked fish growing up, but 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.599 you know when you eat fish, like from the Midwest, 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:56.160 and it's just like it's it's basically fish sticks or 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.280 it's like jerking. You're like, how is this? This is? 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.719 This is really tough. And when you have really good 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:03.919 fish for the first time, it's it's really good. So 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:05.920 that's always my favorite thing to like. If I if 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:07.920 I'm like, oh, we don't know what to go or 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.360 where to get food, always get fish. And I think 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.520 wherever you live, you end up staying in like that 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.400 pocket for like when you want to go out and stuff. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:17.840 So I used to live on the West Side, but 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.560 now I live on the East side live. I live 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:24.240 in Pasadena. Now, I obviously like I love Hilstone restaurants, 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:26.880 so like I live right near Houston's. I can't I 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.320 can't beat it. It's so good. I went the first 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.600 time I ever went to Houston's. I went, oh my god, 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:36.720 this is like adult version of out Back Steakhouse. This 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:43.280 is adult yes, because like he knows, out Back Steakhouse 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:50.520 is the Scranton to Los Angeles. Wow, right, that is perfect. 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:53.680 Get a pen right, I have one right here, right, 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.320 I write in pencilone lay. We come from similar backgrounds. 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.600 I think a little eater in life, obviously, But Scranton, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:05.160 Pennsylvania and Worcester, Massachusetts really sort of have the same, 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.880 you know, vowelistic ring to them. Don't you think? I agree? 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.240 And they think? I think they both give me the 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:16.240 same visceral reaction. Yeah, so what is your reaction? Okay, well, 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.680 I know that this isn't a visual medium, but when 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:21.000 you said, yeah, I just want to paint a picture 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.840 for the viewer that you're all of your teeth all 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.120 perfectly white, We're gritting against each other, and I could 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:33.360 hear it in my microphone and that's the same visceral 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:38.520 reaction that I have, like ah, like an ouch ouch. Yeah, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.679 Worster wester was you know, I guess it's good because right, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.920 I think it was so limiting, and I think baby 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.160 Scranton was for you too. I don't know, but it 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.520 was so limiting. It was limitless and kind of a 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.520 funny way. Yeah, and was sure is because this is 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.520 a cooking podcast. Is a great sauce to sauce. We 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.120 don't even say Shire anymore, which is not Worcester sauce. No, 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:06.200 we dropped it, and we collectively the cooking community that 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.319 I'm a part of now. I mean it's so you're like, well, 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.360 you have the Houston's thing, but the Houston is probably 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.720 the Americana part of it. So that you have it's 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.200 a Scranton in you to your Scranton l A, but 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:24.199 Scranton with an asterisk, which is Houston over the Scranton. Yeah, exactly. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.480 In our second course, I had to understand how Adam 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.839 managed to become a world class figure skater as a 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.960 kid growing up in a small town Scranton. He told 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.480 me about the sacrifices that he, his mother, and his 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.520 siblings all made and the personal growth that came as 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:43.120 a result. So I was right. I was like, I 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:46.280 was trying to imagine your mom cooking for you and 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.480 driving you all those miles and hours with your other 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.400 siblings to go to practice. Why may I ask that 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:57.080 you take all the siblings? Was to set an example 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.600 for the siblings in your in your determination and your 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.840 your practice or was it because she had to Well, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:08.000 it's like not everyone all at once, so it would 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.199 be like everything needed to be coordinated with everyone's schedule. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.400 So sometimes it would be like two of my siblings 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.840 would come to this practice because they would need to 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.480 do something right after or one or none. And when 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.520 I was like training a lot when I was young 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.720 and still at home and going between Scranton and Philadelphia, 0:10:24.880 --> 0:10:29.000 which is like a two hour drive. Like, yeah, so 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.520 my mom had just had a baby, so she was 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:36.439 bringing like my newborn brother and one of the younger 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:38.840 siblings under that who wasn't old enough to be in school. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.600 So it wasn't everybody, but like there was a lot. 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.920 I mean, there was like three of us. So how 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.160 do you that's so much work? It is so much 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.440 where I mean went in retrospect when I like think 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.840 back at it, what one I'm thirty one, and so 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.560 my mom was like when she had me, and I'm like, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:03.960 I could not imagine having two kids, Jeffrey, No, I'd 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:08.720 be it'd be over for me. I had three and 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:16.679 over fifty I had them. Wow. Yeah, okay, young gun, Wow, 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.800 I said, it's just amazing. But I I know what 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.520 it takes. And you know, obviously she was a coach, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.480 so she knew too. She knew like, all right, this 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.920 is this is the game plan. Everybody, Just get out 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:29.439 of the way. We need to figure this out. I've 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.160 got it figured out. This is how you're going to 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:35.800 be great because she noticed one sort of natural pivot 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.959 or balanced that you must have had that she said, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.800 something's here. I think that. Like I was always like 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.440 a smaller kid and so every and I did a 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.040 little bit of everything, and I liked everything, but there 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.400 was just always a point where I just completely lost 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:53.120 interest in it. But I really liked skating. And I 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.319 realized I really liked skating because I was taking tennis 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.480 lessons at the same time, and our ten this coach 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.600 was like, who's the best tennis player in the world? 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.160 And I was like, you are, and he was like, 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.480 know who really is? And I was like, I have 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.040 no idea. And he said this thing where he was like, 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.199 if you really love something, you'll learn all about it. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.160 You'll know everything, You'll know all the people who play it. 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:20.920 And I remembered that and I was like, I have 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:25.880 no clue who plays tennis. And then when I started skating, 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.280 I wanted to know everything about it. And that's when 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.040 it really clicked for me. I was like, oh my god, 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.200 what my tennis coach said. He was right, when you 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.320 love something, like, you'll be so entranced by it that 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:38.240 you'll want to learn everything, and that's when I really 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.840 knew that I loved skating, and um, you know, my 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:44.480 mom was always like if there was something that we 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.000 really liked, we had to show her and prove that 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.400 we would do like whatever it took to make that happen. 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.080 Like I remember to go to the rink in the morning, 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:54.839 you know, my mom was like, everybody needs to get 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:56.719 ready for school. I can't just take you. So I 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:00.839 would wake everyone up at like four thirty in the morning. Um, 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.280 but I would like panic them and be like, you're 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.000 late for school, and like I would make everybody get 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:07.720 up and like get them all dressed to make sure 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.720 all their lunches were made, so that it would be 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.920 like five o'clock five fifteen, and I'd wake my mom 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:14.439 up and be like, can you take me to the rink? 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:16.920 Everybody's already ready for school, and they were just like 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.360 watching TV. Everybody's ready, but like can we go? So 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.880 I would do like things like that all the time, 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.719 just to make sure that there was no reason why 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.360 I wouldn't be able to go to the rink. And 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.360 then by the time I was like twelve or thirteen, 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:31.920 I was taking the Greyhound bus because I needed to 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:36.080 go to Philadelphia for the entire week instead of for 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.120 just like a day or two when my mom would 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.360 drive me, like on a Tuesday or Thursday, and so 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:42.840 you know, my mom couldn't just leave everyone. So I 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.080 would take the Greyhound bus in downtown Scranton and then 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:47.840 I would take it all the way to Philadelphia and 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:49.800 someone would pick me up where I would like walk 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.880 to a rink and then um, I would like be 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.520 with the family for the rest of the week. So 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.160 it was just like if you wanted to do it, 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:59.680 you needed to you know, be brave and like do 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.880 these things. So yeah, it was always kind of instilled. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:04.680 You know, you have to make it work. Can you 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.880 describe this sort of temperament you have to have to 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.839 skate at that hour and so many hours in the 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:14.280 stamina and the cold, and just describe sort of what 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.000 it's like and how it's so easy just to say, 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:19.560 you know, it's just just just too cold. I don't 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.760 want to do this. It is. Listen, if I were 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:23.800 to describe it, it sounds like something I would never 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:27.680 want to do, because like you're you're tired. Like there 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.320 were little tricks that I would do, like every morning 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.040 where it was like somehow, like if you would go 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.680 out to the rink and you'd have to skip for 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.120 at least five minutes, and then you could get off 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:39.720 of the ice and go back into the lobby where 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.280 it was warm and just sit for five minutes. Somehow, 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.480 when you got back out there, it didn't feel as 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.600 cold cold, So that would be the first trick. Next 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.400 trick would be, once I'm like halfway through, get off 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.880 the ice and like run my hands into like hot water, 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.560 then like put your gloves back on, go back out 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.480 and you feel a little bit warmer. But it was horrible, 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.080 Like it's horrible, but like at the end of the day, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.560 you love it. It's something that's fun, it's enjoyable, but 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.040 there's like a lot and when you're young, it's always 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:08.560 in the morning because you have to go before school 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:12.160 and after school. But when I started to become more 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:15.240 serious and like a higher level, usually I would practice 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.320 during the day. So it was I'll tell you, being 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.680 tired and cold is the worst combination on planet Earth. 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.880 It really is. And so when did you know? What 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:29.160 was that moment that you said you knew that, like, 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.160 I'm really good at this. I think there's there might 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.960 be a little you know, they were like I called 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.920 tragic moments, were like, all right, I didn't I missed that, 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.720 but my miss was much better than most people's hit. Yeah. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.840 I think that there were like little moments where I'm like, oh, 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.280 I might be good at this. And I think it 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:49.480 was like when I first started, I was like doing 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:51.960 things that everybody else was kind of doing, only I 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:55.040 had just started and I was like, oh, I I 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.080 might be kind of good at this. And then I 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.720 think I really didn't have like a moment of oh, 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.080 I'm really good until maybe I was like maybe once 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.120 when I was like fifteen, when I started to land 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.480 some triple jumps, and then maybe when again when I 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.880 was like eighteen, when I won a world junior title, 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:14.800 and I think that's when I was like, Okay, wait, 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.920 I might actually be able to like do this. And 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:19.840 I think that's when everything started to feel a little 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.360 bit more real rather than just like we were you 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.880 try training with rough I at that time, your your coach. 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:28.640 So from Philadelphia, there were a few years of like 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.120 where I was in Toronto, and then I was in Detroit, 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:34.720 and then I was with Rafael. The last six years 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.640 of my career, so I wasn't with Rafael at this 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.280 point yet, but you know Rafael, he kind of I 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:43.920 started working with him at like a interesting time in 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:48.680 my career because things weren't going great. And he is 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:52.160 this like Armenian guy. He's very funny in he's one 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.360 of my favorite people on the earth. But he always 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.920 says like these skaters always come to me like it's 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:03.800 the e er like emergency, they need help before before 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.160 they die. And I'm like, yeah, that's how I came 0:17:06.160 --> 0:17:10.679 to you, like like e R level before I died. Well, 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:13.920 who recommended him to you? It was a friend of mine. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.600 How do you get how do you get a coach? 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.720 How do you just and you if you literally the 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:22.280 craziest thing about skating, which is why I think sometimes 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.400 the parents can be really intense and all of that. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:28.240 Well they have to be because it's like you're asking 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.199 somebody who has no experience in a field to be 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.879 an expert, and to not only be an expert, to 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:38.639 like manage somebody's entire career, so like an emotion and 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:41.359 emotions right, Oh yes, So if you wanted to like 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.520 work with Raphael, you yourself, I could give you his 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.240 phone number, and you could be like I want a 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.159 lesson and he would see if he has time and 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:52.800 just schedule you. It's like that. It's and sometimes it's 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.040 like building the connections to other people to get that 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.920 contact or like meeting them or doing a seminar or something. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.080 But it can be as like unceremonious, as like Hi, 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:09.560 I found your number. Do you have to? But so 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:13.320 I'm looking at all these practices and all this roadwork 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:18.680 and changes in cold and sort of barbaric, you know, workouts. 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.320 How do you have a social life? How did your 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.640 social life sort of interacting and how did you sort 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.520 of bring that to like and I watch you skate, 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.639 and you're so expressive, and it looks like you've been 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.000 around people your entire life all the time. Looks like 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.919 you've done nothing but like socialized. But here you are 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.760 a product of like hours in a cold rink completely alone, 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:41.880 or on a bus or driving for six or eight 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.719 hours a day. How does that happen? I think that 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.800 it was like life experience because I think one of 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:49.800 the things that was so helpful is that and something 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.440 that is so isolating, I needed to put myself out 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.480 there all the time. If you're on the bus and 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.560 you fall asleep and you're on the gray Hund bus, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.639 you need to walk up to the driver and go 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.480 like what stop are we at? Or like you have 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.160 to get on the bus and hey, is that seat taken? 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.320 Can I sit there with like all your bags on 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.879 your seat? And or like there's a lot of like 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.119 little things. And then like when I got older and 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.800 I was living in California, I was, you know, trying 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:21.879 to pay for all of my skating. They're really uncomfortable 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:24.040 conversations that I needed to have with people I was 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.760 working with, like, hey, do you mind if I pay 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:30.080 this bill later? I will prove to you that like 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.440 I'm worth my word and everything, like is there something 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.320 we can do? Like can I work something out with 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.320 you or something? So there are a lot of like 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.119 really uncomfortable conversations, but I think that you grow a 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:45.520 lot from those of being put in those really odd 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:49.399 and sometimes really uncomfortable places that they really help you 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.399 to like firmly stand on your own two feet of 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:54.320 like Okay, I have to just like suck it up 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.040 and do this right now. Yeah, And it's really it's 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:59.560 a great life experience. I tell people like fail and 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.000 go through chaos and confront chaos head on. Yes, And 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:07.919 and somehow confronting reality gives you a mastery of reality. Right. 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.119 You can't confront reality from sitting at home on your Instagram. 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:13.000 You gotta ask you go out there and get and 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.280 get pelted and figure out reality. And then you get 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.280 really good at figuring out reality. And guess what, you 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:19.960 get better at going through life and you don't be 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.840 afraid anymore, and then guess what, it brings stuff to 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:26.439 you from the universe. Totally, yes. I even think in 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:29.679 sports were very often and commonly asked like, what's a 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:33.000 defining moment in your career? And I have two of them, 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.080 and the both of them are like times where I 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.800 was the worst and I just skated so bad and 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.679 I felt so embarrassed and so at my lowest in 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:46.800 those moments, but like they were my career defining moments 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:51.119 of like when I changed my perspective. I grew from them. 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.040 And there was one where I was like sixteen and 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:55.560 I did really badly at the nationals, and then the 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.040 other really defining moment was like missing an Olympic team 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:03.359 for the second time. Those two moments really changed my 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:07.560 whole perspective of who I was, not immediately obviously, because 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:11.560 like in the moment, I'm like this is terrible, But 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.119 in hindsight, like I look back and I'm like, the 0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.720 reason I like am who I am today is because 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:20.320 of those moments where I failed absolutely and I was, 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:24.159 you know, watching his skate. I'm like, wow, every single 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:29.680 people sixty thousand eyeballs and they're all looking for flaws. 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:34.120 You're all waiting. No, that's all. It's like, okay, I'm 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:37.919 out here, pick me, apart, destroy me. It's just I 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:40.280 watch it. I'm like, oh my good lord, you must 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:43.320 have such a constitution just says saying I'm going to 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:45.960 lay it all that you doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:48.920 At some point, I think it's important to just think. 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.240 It's like, it's okay, I just doesn't matter. It's tough. 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:55.480 I think like there's I think the closest sport I 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.800 can think. I think gymnastics is a bit like it, 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:00.480 and I think golf is a lot like it, where 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:03.359 it's like it's going to say that it's so much 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:07.359 like golf, where it's like everybody is just watching you 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:09.960 and you're doing this one thing. That takes less than 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.199 half a second, and you have to be like smart 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.639 enough to know what's going on and dumb enough to 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:20.760 not care. And it's that perfect balance of being reckless 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:24.960 and being brave. Yeah, no, you're getting chaos in order, 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:27.919 but in a way that it seems that it's workable. 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:29.680 And I think I don't think a lot of people 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:32.199 understand the amount of time and hours that people have 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:36.520 to work at getting good at their craft. And once 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:39.920 you get good at getting good at your craft, it's 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:42.119 it's it gets in you and you can't let it go. 0:22:42.280 --> 0:22:44.920 And I think that even if the craft is even, 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:47.399 you're changing your craft and you're doing acting and doing 0:22:47.440 --> 0:22:50.760 all this other stuff now, but it's the same craft. 0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:54.160 You notice, what you're doing is the crafting of your 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:58.439 crafting from the past. Well, it's all like, it's interesting 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:03.199 how I feel everything from like my skating career and 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:07.359 my like from being an athlete. Everything has translated, and 0:23:07.400 --> 0:23:09.879 it's taken me a while to figure out how it has, 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.720 but everything's translated. So like when I do things that 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:16.160 are like more in the comedy space, I think, like 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:20.600 the being able to perform is so vital, and I 0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.199 think like the one thing about skating where it's like 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.560 you you like start in your position and you just 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.160 if you go and if you feel awful, like you'll 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:32.000 be awful. But like if you're talking in front of people, 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:34.480 I think that that can be a little bit more 0:23:34.520 --> 0:23:37.720 like living and breathing, where you can change course, you 0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.960 can change you know the way that things are going. 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:42.639 You can kind of feel the energy around you and 0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:45.120 how people are responding to things. Like when you're skating, 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:49.320 it's like you have what you have planned and you 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.960 know it's just like sometimes you're just like the three 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.359 violinists on the Titanic and you're just like, I guess 0:23:55.480 --> 0:24:10.960 this is how we're going down for our third course. 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:13.959 I got to ask Adam about his amazing performance at 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.920 the two thousand eighteen Olympics. I wanted to know how 0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:19.639 he managed to make figure skating looks so elegant and 0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:22.320 yet so powerful, and hear what it takes to compete 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:26.760 at that elite level. I read your I read a 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:28.800 lot about you, and then I went and I watched 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:34.320 the eighteen performance and what I saw it. Obviously, you 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.480 get colored when you read stuff, but I I wanted 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:39.600 to just express this because I think it's really important 0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:42.960 for the story. First of all, Part one is that 0:24:43.119 --> 0:24:47.480 five or six minute performance you did was so choreographed, 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:50.160 yet it looked so natural. And people don't realize that 0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:54.880 the hours that every single second has a different motion 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:58.199 to it a and how you have to practice that 0:24:58.240 --> 0:24:59.879 and do it over and over again. It's almost that 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.399 you must be so sick of that song hearing this 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.320 so are you're never gonna listen to it again. It's 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.280 like Frank. It's like Frank Sinatra singing My Way. He 0:25:08.400 --> 0:25:10.880 used to hate. He said he hated this song because 0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:12.800 he had to sing it, but everybody loved that song, 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.960 so he had to keep singing it. That was number one. 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:21.400 Number two was I was profoundly affected by how you 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:26.639 got out of those turns without getting dizzy. And I'm like, 0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.640 how does he go from being dizzy to this graceful 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:34.280 sort of other movement without like spinning in his brain? 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.560 How does that happen? So, Jeffrey, let me teach you 0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:41.360 about this. So because I know that when I drink 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.320 too much, the next time, spinning a different. Sometimes when 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.439 you drink too much, you get less dizzy if you 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:51.239 think about it, I do, for one so how does 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:54.240 that happen? I I don't know. So the reason that 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:58.719 a skater can spin so fast and then you like 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.240 get out of it and they look not dizzy, You 0:26:01.320 --> 0:26:07.280 are dizzy. Like the speed at which somebody who has 0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:11.920 repeatedly this is true, repeatedly put their brain through the 0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:17.000 trauma of the spin. The brain can recover faster. And 0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.440 it's the same training that they put astronauts through. So 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.520 it's like the g for us with the face like, yes, 0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.680 it is completely that. So like if you like there's 0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:31.000 a this training thing where like you know, you've seen 0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.560 it where they put the astronaut in the chair and 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.840 they spin the chair around. Yes, if they do it 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:40.600 with someone who isn't like trained, and there's like a 0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.680 camera right in front of them, the astronaut, their eyes 0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:46.400 will just go like back and forth like this, back 0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:47.879 and forth, back and forth, back and forth, and then 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:51.480 they'll settle quickly. And if it's somebody who isn't trained 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:54.920 and does is not used to that like trauma, their 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:59.080 eyes like jet all over the place trying to find balance. 0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:04.640 But it's something try. Yes, the body naturally will learn 0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:08.080 how to find its balance faster, and that's how a 0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.879 skater can spin and they don't look dizzy. You are 0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:14.720 dizzy and you don't know, Yes, you don't know where 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:18.399 you are, but you're balanced. And when you're when you 0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:20.800 can have you, you don't lose your balance, and that's 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.119 the biggest thing. So it's like I if I would 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.040 get out of something and it like looks really nice, 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:29.480 about three seconds later, I'm not dizzy at all anymore. Wow, 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:33.240 But I am immediately after Yes, wow, I mean, and 0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.040 now I'm noticing that with everything, Like now that you're 0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:37.720 going to say that, I'm noticing it. It's sort of 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:38.960 the same thing when you're on a boat and you 0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.000 don't want to get seasick, and they said, never look 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:44.639 at an object and try to try to stop it. 0:27:44.840 --> 0:27:46.840 You just gotta keep going with it. If you look 0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.800 at the horizon and try to stop the boat, you're 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.679 gonna get seasick right away. Because we also don't we 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.600 like in skating, we don't spot so a lot of like, 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.000 which is basically like if you have have one focal 0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:00.280 point and you always like turn your head to find 0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.160 that because like we do so many rotations, So like 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.199 a trick that I would always do is like you 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:10.560 find something that's like stationary, which if you're spinning would 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.520 be like maybe a hand in front of you or 0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.960 like your knee, so you don't focus on like everything 0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.520 being every day around you. Yes, and then like when 0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:20.720 you get out of it, you look for some really 0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:24.919 key thing that's also around you, like a sign on 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:28.880 the dasherboards or like a specific like judge in the corner. 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.080 But you do it so that you can adjust really 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:35.159 quickly and you're never liked disorients it. So the third 0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:37.200 out of part three, out of the four things that 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:41.200 I reckon, I saw was the physicality and the strength 0:28:42.200 --> 0:28:45.440 of your your legs, in your your core, which is 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.000 everything now is core, right, It's a whole world talks 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.240 about core. What did you do? Did you work out 0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.040 every day, did you do legs, did you lift weights? 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.360 How did you keep that core and those and your 0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:01.600 legs so strong? So so much of the training is 0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:06.520 like on the ice um. That being said, like everything 0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:10.120 that we do is like one direction. So if we 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.440 we land and we do all of these jumps and 0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.960 everything will like land on the right side. So like 0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:18.719 a typical skater, if like they were working with a therapist, 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.120 their whole for me because like I would I was right. 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:24.760 If you were like right handed or right side dominant, 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:29.240 you'll jump one direction and left side vice versa. So 0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.800 I was right side dominant, so I would land on 0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.640 my right legs. So when I would work with a 0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:36.680 therapist who had never worked with me before, it would 0:29:36.680 --> 0:29:38.560 always be like, huh, this is interesting, where like the 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.080 whole right side of my body is like over developed 0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.560 and more developed than the left. So a big important 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:46.800 thing to do when we were off the ice would 0:29:46.840 --> 0:29:50.479 be too Yes, we would lift and do all of 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:52.760 that stuff to like you know, gain you know, just 0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.520 more strength, but we would also do a lot of 0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:00.560 things that were just to do our best to equal 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.560 out because when there is a big imbalance, you are 0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:06.800 more prone to injury, which is crazy because it's like 0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:09.280 our whole we spend our whole life as a skater 0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.920 over developing one side and so then you have to 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:13.760 kind of go off the ice and try to find 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:17.960 that balance. So it is it is interesting, like like 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.240 in that respect that everything was. So you noticed that 0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.480 Rafael nidel Is left side of his arm is like this, 0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.880 He's like the Hulk and his other arm is like 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.440 and I'm like, how does that happen? You know, and 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.680 then you notice what happened. It's really obvious. Yes, And 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.160 so another thing for like us is that like we're 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.840 so like bottom heavy that like our legs are really developed, 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:41.840 but we need to be so slight and so like 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.360 as light as possible. That like our upper bodies are 0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:50.240 like dried out raisins and it looks like all the 0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:56.200 juice just went down. So you still need you still 0:30:56.200 --> 0:31:01.240 need this this structure to support. Basically you need the core, 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.880 but like your upper body, like as a skater, when 0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.400 I was skating, it was like no chest, no arms. 0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.760 Arms do not help you. They're like directional. They can 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:13.400 put it, they can put move your shoulders, they can 0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:17.000 like help you tilt and lean, but like arms strength 0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:21.080 doesn't serve you at all. So it's sort of like 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:24.400 a ballerina. The digolottage is beautiful and it's like this, 0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:27.080 but it's really it's the waist down that is really 0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:31.120 controlling everything. Yes, because like we can use our arms 0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.920 to help us and move us and gain momentum. But 0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:37.320 like they're like an exercise that people would do, like 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.280 on the ice would be like you would do things 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.080 and you'd like cross your arms and not move them 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.320 at all or not even use them, and you can 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.360 still do elements. It's much harder because like that momentum 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.920 is still helpful, but like they aren't. The biggest thing 0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.640 is like don't let them get in your way. So 0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:54.720 the last part of this is when I watched that 0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.320 was the first This is the last part that I'm 0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:58.720 going to talk about what it was. The first thing 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:02.400 that I noticed, and this is, I guess a reverse compliment. 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:06.040 I didn't notice that technique it was flawless. I didn't 0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:08.760 notice the workout or the practice it was flaw with 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:13.880 all this. What I noticed was the incredible symmetry with 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:17.040 the music and the and the the dance. It was 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:23.480 extraordinarily theatrical and dance like versus a skating. I didn't 0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:25.600 even I didn't notice she was skating until halfway in 0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:28.400 that when you started the twirl. So it was like 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:33.520 I really saw this uh sort of entertainment, theat theatrical 0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.920 dance part of it, more than I've ever seen, and 0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.840 a lot of dancers, and it seems to me that 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:42.520 it's something that you're doing right now, which seems very 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:45.920 exciting to you. There's a sense of like this theatricality, 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:48.960 this entertainment, this lifestyle, this sort of like really loving 0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.040 It's almost like you're you're dancing for us instead of 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:54.800 skating for us. And that's what I noticed right off 0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:58.640 the bat. Does that make any sense? It makes total sense. 0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:02.640 I think, like I I as a competitor, I needed 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.280 to figure out like what made me feel comfortable in 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:11.040 like that space, and I am I'm really competitive, but 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.600 like I needed to find which how that served me. 0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:17.080 So I would be really competitive if I knew that 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.440 I could put on like the best performance. So I 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.640 always focused on everything that like everything was like a show. 0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.720 It was all entertainment, and my main focus always had 0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:30.520 to be like I had to entertain everyone, which when 0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:34.480 the things that I do now has translated very well 0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.360 and it's helped me a lot and all of these 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.880 other things, because like that's always my main focus of like, 0:33:39.120 --> 0:33:42.120 and when I was at home and practice, I would 0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:45.000 make sure that I was like performing full out every 0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:47.959 day so that like when I went to a competition, 0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.560 it was just normal. It was like the way that 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.320 I had just done it. It wasn't like I needed 0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.800 to do anything special. And I think doing that every 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:59.840 day is really exhausting, but it creates this muscle of 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.440 being able to like be there when you need to 0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.240 be there and like turn it on right away and 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:07.160 or or you know, be able to do things where 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:09.919 it looks like it's full of emotion when really you're 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:18.440 just like dead inside, which I am. I I hardly 0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.400 think that, but I I just thought it was such 0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:24.480 a reserved I was so wonderful you. I could tell 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:26.839 you a holding back in a way that really made 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.319 it so powerfully interesting. It was like, wow, this this 0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.839 is like he's on six, this is not even ten, 0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.560 but the dancing and the entertainment is like on twelve. 0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:38.960 And I was like, wow, this is like real, like 0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.560 a real entertainer. And I don't mean that in any 0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:46.040 way other than like that is brilliant entertaining. And it 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.600 was almost like the skating was secondary. It was almost 0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:52.040 like you're inhabiting two bodies. Well, that's very sweet of you, 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.640 thank you, And but I do want to compliment you 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:58.520 and say that that's a very great analyzation of the 0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.920 way that I truly felt like I would because like 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.400 if I tried to go out of ten, it was 0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:07.600 too like I felt like I don't think anyone can. 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:12.719 But like it was just being like present enough to 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:17.000 be like at because Okay, when I would train at 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.839 home and not everybody is like this, I would have 0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:23.960 to train at one percent. So that like if when 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.480 I went to competition, for me to feel in control, 0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:32.640 I would compete at But if you're going a hundred 0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:36.040 every day, what your version of eight five is is 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.279 so much higher than it would be if you were 0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:43.080 training at seventy every day. So I always needed to 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.320 take it down a notch because I would get really 0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:48.120 into it or like overcompensate in different ways. So like 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:50.640 when I was at home, it was like balls to 0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.479 the wall, but when I'd be in competition, it needed 0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.319 to just be a little bit more coy and a 0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.040 little bit more like in on myself of like okay, 0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.319 you've got it, like you this is it was. It 0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:05.279 becomes like a little bit more fun. It's also you 0:36:05.280 --> 0:36:07.960 know when you when you I guess are doing anything. 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:09.920 When you run a restaurant and you walk into the restaurant, 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.959 the lighting is great, the music is beautiful, the person 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.279 at the desk is great, takes care of you, You 0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:16.560 get your drink for us. Everything's grown great, and the 0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:18.719 food is really good. It's not the best food you've 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.640 ever had, but the whole experience is like I'm coming 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.279 back here again, and it's like it's that it's like 0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.800 you can't be perfect at everything. It's just not possible 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.640 and it's not human and real and people don't respond 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.960 to it. Those people responded to your your the words. 0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:39.000 You know, it's sort almost there's almost cinematography, cinematography and 0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:44.120 in a and how you danced that was so captivating, right, 0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.560 And it wasn't that we're waiting for this big twill 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:47.799 and will you make it? Will you make it? Will 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:50.080 you fall? I wasn't thinking that. I was like, this 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:54.200 is just fantastic to watch. It was like so it 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.200 was so connected and it was like it made so 0:36:56.280 --> 0:37:00.440 much sense, and I was like, wow, I've noticed difference 0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.560 between other skaters who it's like hit hit this, hit two, 0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:07.440 hit six, hit five hits. It's rinse and repeat more music, 0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:11.040 bring it up, crescendo down, Hello, And that's what I'm 0:37:11.120 --> 0:37:14.319 used to because it's it's what's fed a lot of 0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:19.400 the the unequaistic sort of performance skating. Yeah, I mean, 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.439 we should get you on a judging panel. And it's 0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:25.399 a shame and mine at the Olympics because I really 0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.880 could have used some of this hype twelve and whatever 0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:32.319 the hell it has, there's a twelve. I would have 0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.440 put it up. And this guy's good. Everybody come over here, 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.759 this guy is. Look at this guy. I would have 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.560 loved that. I would have loved that, and I could 0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:46.160 have used that. But hindsight, everything, everything is going as 0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.480 it should be. The universe agreed right place for you 0:37:49.640 --> 0:38:00.480 right now. For our fourth and final core, I caught 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.040 up with anim about life in l A with competitive 0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:05.800 skating officially in his rear view mirror, he seems to 0:38:05.840 --> 0:38:09.040 have traditioned well into life outside the rink, with a 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:12.760 published memoir, to new TV shows, and a finished fiance. 0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.320 You're so busy, So tell me you're you're newly engaged, 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:19.000 you have a show on MTV, you wrote a book. 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:21.880 Is there anything you're not doing? Did I miss something? No, 0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.520 that's that's everything. Yeah, let us in on all this 0:38:25.600 --> 0:38:26.920 a little bit, just a little bit, you know, have 0:38:26.960 --> 0:38:30.320 to say a lot. Okay, I I'm engaged. My fiance 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:35.120 he's so great, so funny. Like listen, one day when 0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:36.799 I come and I visit you in Florida because now 0:38:36.840 --> 0:38:39.480 I'm going to do it. You gotta come. Yeah, I'm 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.399 gonna come. You'll meet JP. You'll love JP. I'm sure 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.399 I can already tell. So how do you pronounce his name? 0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:47.520 I was trying to pronounce what I decided, not making 0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:51.279 myself an idiot and just trying to say it. Let 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.440 me go, I'm gonna try. Okay, please, yes, And I 0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:59.120 think you're going to be right. You're cee pekaala. That's 0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:02.959 very that's very close. So his like his it would 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:07.120 just be like you see peca okay. So, so it's 0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.840 I was questioning because sometimes the U was silent or 0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:14.480 sharp in different countries. Yes, you know what I'm saying, 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.880 and they put two us to say you see and 0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.719 this one they put two s s. So you see 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:25.880 peca color ka ka kayala kayala. So what is this? 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.799 Is it? J K? Is that his nickname? Come on? Yeah, 0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:32.520 I just call him JP because that you see, it's 0:39:32.600 --> 0:39:35.239 like that's like if it were like an English name, 0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:38.520 it'd be like Mary Teresa, Like it's like it's a 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.840 full name. First names. Okay. So let's go So Finland, 0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:45.200 and how are you are you in this l a together. 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:47.920 So okay, this is so. We met when I was 0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.600 at a competition I think almost like five years ago 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:52.920 at this point, and I was on Tinder, so I 0:39:52.960 --> 0:39:56.600 was obviously very focused on the competition at hand. Yeah, 0:39:56.760 --> 0:39:59.440 and so we were looking for Houston's to go to dinner. 0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:02.799 I needed to go to Houston's in Helsinki, which I 0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:08.560 still haven't been, yeah, exactly. And so we we matched, 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.920 but we never met talked for months and then he 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:14.960 came and he visited me. We hit it off, um 0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.839 really well, and so, uh, we were planning to get 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.640 married last summer. We're also just like going to a courthouse, 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.960 like I know that, Like I'm in this like room 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:28.719 with like a mug shop behind me. But uh, we 0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:31.040 just wanted to just go to a courthouse. And then 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:34.879 with the pandemic and everything, I didn't pan out. So 0:40:34.920 --> 0:40:39.200 we applied for k one visa for him because he's finished. Uh, 0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.080 and so that process usually takes about like nine to 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.960 nine months to a year, but with everything, it's been 0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.960 about a year and a half. Um, so I've seen 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.439 him twice in the last year and a half. It's 0:40:52.440 --> 0:40:56.080 been you know, it's been difficult at times, but like 0:40:56.239 --> 0:41:00.680 we've both really have stayed focused on like one, I 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:02.960 think like knowing that like this will come to an 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:05.520 end soon, and like there's a light at the end 0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:08.680 of the tunnel for our like him living far that 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.840 like we've that's been really helpful. And like we've all 0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.360 we both like have really focused on like our own 0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:19.120 careers and things so that like when we're able to 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.560 like live together, it'll be really nice. And we've put 0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:24.680 a lot of time into ourselves, which has been great. 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:27.399 And yeah, and I guess the other big thing was that, 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:30.840 like I have the show on MTV. It's called Messiness. 0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:33.360 I Try. I asked my producer. I'm like, okay, so 0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.080 what's what's tell me what it is? He said, well, 0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:39.040 it was like, right, show ridiculous And I'm like, well, 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:40.839 what was that. I was like, come on, I'm gonna 0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:46.160 let him tell me. Okay, So okay. So Messiness is 0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:50.520 a spinoff of Ridiculousness, which was a show where like 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:53.799 they would play these clips and there's just kind of 0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:56.960 like a back and forth of the panelists. I think 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.600 what makes Messiness a little bit different is that on 0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.399 the show, it's me Nicole Polizzi, who's famously known as 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.680 Snooky is the host, Tori Spelling. And then there's a 0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:09.279 comedian his name is Teddy Ray, who is one of 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:11.920 the funniest people I've ever met. Where do you film it? 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:15.360 We film it here in Los Angeles at haven Hurst 0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:19.120 Studios and Van Eyes and uh so we we film 0:42:19.160 --> 0:42:21.400 it out there. And basically it's it's sort of it 0:42:21.440 --> 0:42:24.200 was started out as like the brainchild of ridiculousness, but 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.040 because it's the four of us up there were like 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:31.440 four complete idiots and we just go back and forth 0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.600 and we just like have tell really great stories and 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:36.440 we like make each other laugh the whole time. So 0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.759 we have so much fun filming it. And um, we 0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:40.920 had our first ten episodes come out a little while ago. 0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.680 We'll have the next ten come out soon. But like 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.759 we it's I've I've even enjoyed watching it, which like 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.880 I don't sometimes sometimes sometimes I'm like I don't know 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.760 if I can watch myself. But like sometimes I'll watch 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.200 the show and I'll be like, it is actually fun. 0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.040 So that's my endorsement of my own show. It's actually fun. 0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:02.960 It's so the first season is it out? It's come out, Yes, 0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.359 it's half out. So it's twenty episodes, so like our 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:08.480 our first tenor out in our second ten will be 0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.919 out in probably a month or two. Congratulations on that. 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:14.520 That's incredible. Uh, And you're hosting there, you're a host 0:43:14.560 --> 0:43:19.799 with Snookie. Yes, she's our main host, she's our president basically, 0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:23.840 and we will do whatever she says, for better or worse, 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:28.960 which I think sometimes it is worse. I mean, I 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.719 you know, I remember Snooky from a long time ago, 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:34.040 and everyone said that show is never gonna last, and 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:36.439 look what happens, you know. Just I mean, I will 0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:41.719 say she's exactly who you think she is. And with that, 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.840 I'll say she is one of the I'm dead serious. 0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.400 She's one of the most professional people I've ever worked 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.959 with on time shows up to do like the job, 0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.920 she does it really well. She's fully present, she's so 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.440 nice to everyone. I mean, it makes sense. Listen, if 0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.440 you can be like arrested on the beach as a 0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.080 twenty one year old girl and you can make a 0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:07.120 career out of it, like you've had to have done 0:44:07.200 --> 0:44:10.640 a few things like to like grow up and like 0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.800 really like do well for yourself. And she is, I 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:17.279 dead serious, one of the most professional people ever ever 0:44:17.320 --> 0:44:21.040 worked with. Couldn't I could say enough good things about her. 0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.839 I call people like that conscious because they're very few 0:44:24.880 --> 0:44:28.600 people are actually conscious about life. They just not. And 0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:32.160 when they beat them, they like they they come down 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:34.120 the street and they're like shining because they're like, this 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.799 is a conscious person. I would like this person, we're 0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.240 gonna get along. So tell me about the book Beautiful 0:44:39.239 --> 0:44:42.480 on the Outside. So I wrote this book right after 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:46.880 the Olympics, and I think I knew that I wanted 0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:51.000 to write it because it felt like the only way 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:54.319 I was going to sit down and really process what 0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:59.200 had happened. Because the Olympics is like whiplash. It's something 0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.480 that you like wait your entire life for and then 0:45:02.600 --> 0:45:05.440 in the course of two weeks it happens. It's over, 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.879 and then all of a sudden, like you feel like 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:11.160 that big, what have I've been doing for two years exactly? 0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:15.759 Like it's so crazy. So I um had this opportunity 0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:17.200 to write the book, and I was like, I have 0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:18.680 to do it because I think it will be like 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.960 the only way I actually, like really think about everything 0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:25.760 that's happened in my whole career and life to this point. 0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.160 How was you gonna say until the next book exactly, 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:32.319 because it's going to be a series of memoirs, has 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.640 to be at thirty one. I think you route at 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:37.600 twenty nine. I think get thirty one. There's at least 0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:41.440 two or three more books, at least at least, So 0:45:41.520 --> 0:45:43.839 you're sitting at home in l A and Pasadena. So 0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:47.440 how are you maintaining yours? I know, how you're maintaining 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:51.560 your psychic health by making shows with Snooky, that's obvious. 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:55.359 How are you maintaining your physically your physical being? How 0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.960 are you working on your body and your nutrition? And 0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.440 you cooking at home yourself or do you strictly go 0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.680 out or you do a balanced balance of that? Are you? 0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.640 Are you? You know what? How do you come up 0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:10.880 with a regiment that you started basically at thirty? I 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.000 mean at thirty like people are just like in their 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.839 normal life and it's it's it's you're like, stop doing 0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.400 one thing that was very specific, and now how do 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:22.920 you continue while keeping your your your your head together? 0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:27.600 I mean physically. This is totally a great point because 0:46:27.960 --> 0:46:31.319 what I did was so specific to what I was 0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.600 doing at the time, So like, I mean, it was 0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:38.440 just like be really slight. What I ate was super limited, 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:40.400 and I was working out all the time, and so 0:46:40.480 --> 0:46:43.000 from the time this is a little bit nuts to 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:46.080 think about, but from what I weighed at the Olympics too, 0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:50.680 now I'm twenty pounds heavier, even though I'm still like 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.680 you really might not be able to like see it 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:57.440 on me. It's just how quickly, like not quite. I 0:46:57.480 --> 0:46:59.480 mean it took it was like three years, but I 0:46:59.520 --> 0:47:02.800 was like very light and then probably too thin at 0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:07.200 that at that for that for a normal yes, it's existent. 0:47:07.360 --> 0:47:09.840 I think, like to be really elite, there are a 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.799 lot of crazy things that aren't very healthy that you 0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.680 end up that end up feeling like very normal to you. 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.680 So like eating and things like that, Like really I 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:21.440 needed to relearn it, and I'm still like relearning it 0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:25.319 and finding things that I like and trying things, and 0:47:25.560 --> 0:47:28.439 so it's been like kind of rediscovering what that is. 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.600 And also like I did not work out for like 0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:33.959 two years, Like I could not go to the gym 0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:35.520 because it was like I didn't know how to just 0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:39.000 like go and just feel good about myself and the 0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.000 gym because it was like I couldn't go there and 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:45.120 not feel like I was like training for the Olympics. Yeah, 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:47.759 so now you go, Now I go. And I think 0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:49.759 the best thing was was that like I worked with 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.960 I've been really lucky because there there's this like little 0:47:53.000 --> 0:47:56.320 private gym at the rink that I used to train at. 0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.719 So I don't skate very often anymore, but I'll go 0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.040 down to the rink and work with like one of 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:04.279 the trainers. And I think what's been so great is 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.480 like I've never been able to do like upper body stuff. 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:09.000 It's always been like lower lower legs. So it's like 0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:11.080 I've been learning a lot more about that and it's 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:14.000 been I've I've I've learned to really love being in 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.040 the gym, and I think getting back into it and 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:21.400 like learning more about like the switching up my nutrition 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.920 has like really been great. And I would say it 0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:26.000 only got into it, and like in this last year. 0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.360 This last year is probably the first time I feel like, Okay, 0:48:28.360 --> 0:48:31.040 I have like my feet more on the ground. Because 0:48:31.280 --> 0:48:33.080 once you get into it and you get into the 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.480 nutrition and then working it's like addictive. Then you're like, 0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:38.239 oh my god, this is fantastic, and then your brain 0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:41.600 sort of clears up and ways that it didn't before 0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:44.680 doing something you probably will never ever do. You might 0:48:44.760 --> 0:48:46.680 actually take up golf or something like that, because that 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:49.960 might mirror the skating, but without that stress in that 0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:55.440 like you know, yeah, and spinning, the constant spinning, the trauma. 0:48:56.040 --> 0:49:02.480 That trauma is trauma. I think the biggest thing is 0:49:02.560 --> 0:49:05.680 just like I think, like from being an athlete to 0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.520 like working in entertainment, the biggest difference is that, like 0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:14.440 as an athlete, like if if you and myself were 0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.680 to sit down and you're like, Okay, we're going to 0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:19.320 get ready for the next Olympics, I could say okay, 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:21.279 and I would let you know every event you were 0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.080 going to be doing, and I would let you know 0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.080 your whole entire schedule for the next four years. You 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:28.840 would know everything. You'd be able to plan out every vacation, 0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:32.759 every day off and um. An entertainment, you can be 0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:36.040 doing nothing for four months and then you can be 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:39.840 working every day for three weeks, and then after that 0:49:39.880 --> 0:49:42.600 three weeks, it's like more chunks of time. So it 0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:46.440 was like learning yes, and and learning how to like 0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:49.960 manage your time and learning how to like fill those 0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:53.240 spaces of like how am I because I'm still an athlete, 0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.719 like at heart, like how do how do I keep 0:49:55.760 --> 0:49:59.040 improving without knowing that those things are coming? So it 0:49:59.120 --> 0:50:01.480 was just like learning how to do that, which it's 0:50:01.480 --> 0:50:03.600 fun and I feel like now more prepared for when 0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:08.680 I do anything. Wow, what's an incredible story. Thank you 0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:10.360 for sharing with me. I mean, I we could go 0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:12.799 on and on, but that that's that's one book. You 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:15.799 got at least three more books. I mean, I'll tell 0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:18.600 the publisher, I'll give you something too. I mean, these 0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.400 shows are incredible. I can't I can't wait to watch 0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:23.399 one of them. And I'm glad I learned that this one. 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:26.040 Did I miss anything? And is there another show you're 0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:30.600 doing as well? Or is it just uh, it's the messiness, 0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:35.400 it's messiness. And then I I sold a scripted comedy 0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:37.680 to NBC that we're working on with them, and I 0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:41.200 wrote it with two other really fabulous like writers. It 0:50:41.320 --> 0:50:43.279 was it was really great. When I wrote the book, 0:50:43.320 --> 0:50:45.680 I really fell in love with like writing. I always 0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:48.000 have loved like being funny with everyone, but like, I 0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:49.800 didn't know what I was going to how to write 0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:53.440 a book. So I worked with a ghost writer at 0:50:53.480 --> 0:50:55.879 first because I was like, Okay, I'll talk with them 0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.600 and they'll help me write it. And then I basically 0:50:58.640 --> 0:51:00.800 I think it was it turned into like a course 0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:03.080 on how to write, where like they would help me 0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:07.840 like like set up how to build the story, and 0:51:07.880 --> 0:51:09.799 then I would go and I would like basically like 0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.440 rewrite everything and then send it back to them and 0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:14.520 they'd be like, change these few things. And it was like, 0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.000 honestly was like going to school and it was the 0:51:17.040 --> 0:51:19.719 best thing, and and it really helped me. So like 0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:22.239 when we wanted to write this show, I felt like 0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:25.280 very confident that I was able to like write and 0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:28.160 and be funny like in written word on paper. So 0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:30.040 like that it was. It was great. I loved it. 0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:33.839 I writing is a lot of fun too. I want 0:51:33.840 --> 0:51:36.080 to thank you so much. She was great, great talking 0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:39.359 to you. Have a wonderful day there in Pasadena. Thank you, 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:42.239 and I'll come visit soon. 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