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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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Speaker 1: from house toff works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I and I am Josh Clark and with

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Speaker 1: me is Charles W. Chuck Bryant. I knew you were

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Speaker 1: gonna I was waiting for it. You had no idea.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but I just I knew there

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Speaker 1: was some sort of reggae thing coming up. That was

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Speaker 1: all the cuff tap. Really yeah, no, no way, it

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Speaker 1: really was. I thought about it, and like my stomach

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Speaker 1: got all butterflies, and I was like, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: it A plus A. Thank you, Chuck. How are you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm great, You're feeling good today. I've been under the

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Speaker 1: weather again. Yeah, I just don't feel quite right. Like

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Speaker 1: if ten is feeling great and then one is sick,

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Speaker 1: I meant like, uh, like a five and a or six?

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Speaker 1: Is it that staff infects? And still I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the deal is. I would imagine that would have

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Speaker 1: lasting effects after for you know, it's not like a

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Speaker 1: normal stomach bugs. That's like a stomach terrorist. Our podcast

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Speaker 1: is on a watch list now that I just said that.

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Speaker 1: I think so, does that mean more audience? Possibly at

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Speaker 1: least the ns will be listening, um chuck. Back in

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Speaker 1: my hippie days, uh, there was this question that was

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Speaker 1: on everyone's mind. There was a piece of knowledge that

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Speaker 1: wasn't passed around adequately among the hippie counter culture that

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Speaker 1: to dread your hair if you didn't have kinky or

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Speaker 1: curly hair. So the people that did that kept in

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Speaker 1: a guarded secret or else they didn't tell anybody, or

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Speaker 1: they were vague when they did tell. What I suspect

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Speaker 1: is based on the my experience with humorless hippie people,

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Speaker 1: they did say because they didn't want to overtly make

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Speaker 1: They would just be very vague and unhelpful. Plus they

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Speaker 1: probably don't want to make it seem like it took

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Speaker 1: too much work. You know, that's probably part of it

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Speaker 1: or if if your mom was helping you on a

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Speaker 1: I remember having this conversation with this friend of mine

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Speaker 1: show um on ht TV actually, um yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: called bush Whacked. He went in like guerrilla garden people's landscapes.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. Anyway he was. He was talking to me

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Speaker 1: was trying to get I asked him, what are you

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Speaker 1: doing with your hair? And he's like, I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: And I remember this look coming over his face, like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: you just blew my mind. That was the closest I

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Speaker 1: ever came to being able to explain how dreadlocks work

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Speaker 1: until today. Now, after years of wondering and then even

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Speaker 1: think the history is a little more interesting than than

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Speaker 1: my stupid anecdote. No, no, than the actual process. But

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Speaker 1: or they put gasoline. You ever hear that. No, that's

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Speaker 1: a very bad rumor that gasoline in your hair helped it.

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Speaker 1: Not true, helps your hair catch on fire? Having more

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Speaker 1: the history of the dreadlock. What are we talking about?

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Speaker 1: edits that? Good luck? Uh so, Josh. Prehistoric humans probably

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Speaker 1: and they're not all. There's also contemporary groups. Religious groups

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Speaker 1: back to the show. Rasta Buddhist and Japan. That's what

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Speaker 1: reggae and Rastafarianism basically, right, among other things. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: rebelling against the European invasion of the world, the imperialism,

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Speaker 1: European imperialism. And uh, the author of this article, Matt Sailor,

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Speaker 1: it in your face, in your face. And and it's

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Speaker 1: possible that the Rastafarians were um inspired by the Mau

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Speaker 1: it's always dread in the heart, dread And yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: the British soldiers loin dread is the worst, Josh uh So,

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Speaker 1: um dread lucks today they spread obviously, you said Bob

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Speaker 1: Marley had a lot to do with that, with his

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Speaker 1: And I'm not Mr. Reggae like at all, but I

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Speaker 1: Maybe so maybe they thought Bob Marley is the country music.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, he and his whalers in the seventies made

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Speaker 1: Rastafarians they like their their pot. Explain from what I'm told,

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Speaker 1: do you have to shave your head pretty much. No,

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Speaker 1: not true, pretty much too. Now. I've known people that

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Speaker 1: that got rid of their dreads through a lot of

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Speaker 1: work and coming. Actually that remembered the Kristen who wrote

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Speaker 1: in with the Sun Slowly, Yeah, a long time ago,

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Speaker 1: of course. I remember she's an artist. She had dreadlocks

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Speaker 1: and she got rid of them because I remember she

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Speaker 1: sent in another picture like eight months later or something

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Speaker 1: and she had like, you know, lustrous European beauty hair

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Speaker 1: really yeah, and she said that she was able to

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Speaker 1: you know, like use like lots of conditioner I think,

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Speaker 1: and combing out, and I think it takes a long time.

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Speaker 1: So you don't have to shave your head. You probably will,

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Speaker 1: though I would imagine it probably depends on a couple

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Speaker 1: of things, like how long the distance between your scalp

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Speaker 1: and the start of the real dread is. And if

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Speaker 1: it's close to the scalp, you probably are going to

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Speaker 1: have to cut him off and then shave your head

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Speaker 1: to make it even. Yeah, I think you would want to, like,

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Speaker 1: after having dreadlocks for that long, why like untangle them

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Speaker 1: just to have a big mop of hair, like just

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Speaker 1: go the opposite, That's what I say, Yes, And it's

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Speaker 1: funny that this is brought up because I was recently

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Speaker 1: reading about your Balkan vampires and apparently one light reading

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Speaker 1: just laughed at me. Well, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that you were into that. Well, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: It was in Harper's. It was interesting though. Anyway. The

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Speaker 1: author was talking about how this one particular type of

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Speaker 1: vampire in Croatia was known to braid the mains of

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Speaker 1: horses so tight that they couldn't be detangled. And if

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Speaker 1: you cut it off, it was so close to this

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Speaker 1: to the neck it would kill a horse. That's what

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Speaker 1: I hear. That's awful. So, Josh, you want to end

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Speaker 1: up with some myths and truths. Did we cover everything else? Yeah? Uh,

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Speaker 1: Samson had dreadlocks in the Bible or not. Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go with myth. You're right, Sampson did have the

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Speaker 1: long hair. I don't know if you've noticed enough, but

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Speaker 1: all of these were myths. They are actually just ruined

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Speaker 1: it though. Uh, Sampson did have the long hair apparently

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Speaker 1: where he got all the strength and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But they said it was more likely like ornamental braids.

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Speaker 1: Dreadlocks more likely, though, we don't know, Josh, ancient Celts

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Speaker 1: and Egyptians had dreadlocks myth or not true. That's a

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Speaker 1: myth oh uh. And this came from artwork, ancient artwork,

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Speaker 1: Um was misinterpreted basically over the years. And the Egyptians

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Speaker 1: I think shave their head and wore head dresses made

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Speaker 1: out of braid braided hair. Easily confused, Josh, dreadlocks can

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Speaker 1: stop bullets. Uh, this has not been tested. I know

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Speaker 1: Bob Marley was shot like eight times once in an

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Speaker 1: assassination attempt and survived that it's possible that his dreads

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Speaker 1: deflected it. Um, But it's very tight. Weave has been

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Speaker 1: shown to deflect bullets. Yeah. Just last year, that lady

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Speaker 1: I remember, I think we talked about on the webcast.

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Speaker 1: No you, um, you blogged about it. She was shot

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Speaker 1: in the weave and it it stopped a bullet. Well

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Speaker 1: in theory, because the way dread's working now, it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's like, uh, like jute rope or like a we

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Speaker 1: a woven rug. You know, each hair is intertwined, and

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Speaker 1: that's sort of how when we did the bullet Proof fest.

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Speaker 1: It's a similar theory, just a really tightly woven fibers,

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Speaker 1: very strong fibers. But yeah, the weave is definitely part

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Speaker 1: of it, a huge part of it. You need to

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Speaker 1: get one of those guys with a big beaver tail

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Speaker 1: dread and just hold it out and shoot a gun

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Speaker 1: through it and see see what he says, be like,

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Speaker 1: what are you doing? Why are you doing that? And finally, Josh,

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Speaker 1: dreadlocks can be donated to charity, cut off and donated.

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Speaker 1: It's just like you know, regular hair. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 1: that that's a myth. That is a myth. Uh. Lots

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Speaker 1: of love and wigs for kids do not accept dreadlocks.

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Speaker 1: And you can actually get fired for having dreadlocks. Did

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Speaker 1: you know that? I yes, this makes sense to me. Um.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of discrimination that corporations can still exercise

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Speaker 1: against their employees, and one of them is like you,

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Speaker 1: if you don't appear clean, you can be fired. You

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Speaker 1: can be fired if you are too fat in your

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Speaker 1: company's opinion. Yeah, Um, there are. In this particular article, though,

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Speaker 1: um dream Sailer makes a point that if you are

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Speaker 1: a Rastafarian practicing Rastafarian and they fire you because your dreads,

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Speaker 1: you've got a pretty good lawsuit on your hand. But

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Speaker 1: if you're just some kid with dreads and they fire

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Speaker 1: you because of your dreads, you're going to be fired.

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Speaker 1: Go back to selling T shirts out of your van

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Speaker 1: in the parking lot of the Fish Show. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: got nothing else, nor do I So if you want

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Speaker 1: to learn more about dreadlocks, seriously, this is one of

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Speaker 1: the most helpful articles I've seen. Steps one through six

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Speaker 1: of how to make dreads. There's another eight or ten

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Speaker 1: steps in dreadlock hair care. Uh. It's really one you

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Speaker 1: should go to if you want if you're if you

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Speaker 1: want to know how to make dreads, if you want

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Speaker 1: to make dreads out of your hair, go check out

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Speaker 1: how dreadlocks work in the search bar at how stuff

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Speaker 1: works dot com, which means it's time for listener mail. Yes, Josh,

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Speaker 1: I am going to call this from Eddie, who hopes

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Speaker 1: things get better. Hi. My name is Eddie. I'm fifteen,

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Speaker 1: almost sixteen, in the tenth grade. The comment you made

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Speaker 1: about how it will only get better if I just

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Speaker 1: hold on and work through high school with something I

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Speaker 1: really needed to hear, aw with friendships that I have

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Speaker 1: no idea, what's going on to work that keeps piling on?

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Speaker 1: I was worried I would be stuck like this after

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Speaker 1: school ended. Uh. The news about the real world, real

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Speaker 1: world being a lot worse than high school doesn't give

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Speaker 1: me easy thoughts. So I'm glad to get a different viewpoint.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and I will take this opportunity now Josh

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Speaker 1: to mention the it Gets Better project, because we didn't

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Speaker 1: even know about this when we mentioned that. No, if

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Speaker 1: you were listening to us, mentioned that, I don't remember

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Speaker 1: what podcast it was the no it was a jealousy.

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Speaker 1: I think we're talking about high school and kids killing

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Speaker 1: themselves in high school. Um, And we didn't mention that

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Speaker 1: it Gets Better campaign. We just pretended like we made

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Speaker 1: it up ourselves. We like when we recorded it that

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Speaker 1: it Gets Better campaign and have been launched like the

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Speaker 1: day before, and we hadn't heard of it yet. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: we we aren't. Yeah, we weren't. We weren't shirking it.

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Speaker 1: So along those lines, we want to give it an

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Speaker 1: official plug. It is a project called it Better project

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Speaker 1: dot com and it is targeted at LGBT youth um

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Speaker 1: right now. My personal hope is that they expand that

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Speaker 1: to include anyone who feels like an outsider in any way.

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Speaker 1: That's specifically anyone who feels like an outsider in high school.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, because if you feel like an outsider is

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Speaker 1: an adult, you're I mean high school outsiders. But it's

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Speaker 1: a really great program founded by Dan Savage in September

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Speaker 1: and uh users can upload videos of themselves testimonials as

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Speaker 1: adults talking to kids saying that trust me, it gets

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Speaker 1: better hanging there. Yeah, and everybody's been doing it, I know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton both had really yeah, that's nice.

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Speaker 1: What about Karl rovean Dick Cheney, They actually did went together.

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Speaker 1: It was so cute and adorable, if so playful together.

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Speaker 1: So that was from Eddie. And if you want to

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Speaker 1: check out Eddie on YouTube, he's a YouTube channel Comic Dud,

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00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: and he draws comics for that channel, and you can

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Speaker 1: go there and see what Eddie has to say. And Eddie,

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Speaker 1: it does get better, trust me, buddy. Thank you for that, Eddie.

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Speaker 1: And if you have a photo of an Indian and

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Speaker 1: Asian Indian with dreadlocks, we want to see it. Send

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