1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: First Date is follow up powered by the Advocates Injury 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Attorneys online at advocusla dot com. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: Jenna is on the phone today for our first Day 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Luca. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call him and see 6 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why he's ghostinger and maybe get 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 2: her another date. But first, Jenna, how long has it 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: been since you heard from Luca? 9 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 3: Uh? It has been a week. I haven't heard anything 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: in a week. 11 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 4: Okay, it's usually the spot where everybody starts to panic 12 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 4: a little bit. How many times did you reach out 13 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 4: to him in that time? 14 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 5: Probably like once. 15 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 3: A day, you know. I just usually sent him photos. 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 5: Of my dog because. 17 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: He that's how we met. Our dog totally hit it off, 18 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: and at first I was getting like a little bit 19 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: of feedback and now just nothing. 20 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 6: Okay, Well let's talk about the date then. 21 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: Well we met us a dog park, well actually our 22 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: dogs met first. His golden doodle literally tackled my pug 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: beans and it felt meant to be. 24 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 5: And we ended up. 25 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: Grabbing coffee after and I got a lavender oat milk 26 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 3: latte obviously, and the he got like black drip coffee, 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: so I are like, okay, edgy. 28 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. And then so we sat on this cute patio 29 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 5: outside and we just talked for like two hours about astrology, 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 5: about oat milk conspiracies, about his tattoo that he swears 31 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 5: is the moon but it totally is. 32 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: Okay, well, he has tattoos he says isn't the moon, 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: but it is. 34 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was trying to say it was like some 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 3: other I don't even like, some other edgy kind of 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: niche thing, but I was like, that's literally a moon. 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 6: So it's like when. 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: People are like that's an artistoke and you're like, no, 39 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: the tattoo on my neck he is a lotus flower, 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: so yeah, okay. 41 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 3: And at one point he literally watched me parallel park 42 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 3: and he didn't even he didn't even judge. So I 43 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: feel like that's intimacy. 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean anyway, okay, think you feel comfortable? 45 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 46 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely, it felt so comfortable and so natural. 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 6: Well, then what could have gone wrong? 48 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: I truly don't know. 49 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 5: At one point, he wiped oat milk foam off of my. 50 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 3: Nose with his finger and he licked it. 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 5: It just made me feel like he was really into me, 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 5: Like I don't know how else to interpret that, Like, 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 5: it feels like he's he's into me. He was into it. 54 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 6: I lick it off your nose? 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: No, he wiped it off his finger and then licked 56 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: it off of his finger, which still I'm like, I 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: would think that too. 58 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, I'd be a little weird now if 59 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: you liked it straight off them. 60 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: And yeah, he said at one point of the day, 61 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: he said, you're really calling to be around, Like that's 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: not the friend zone, Like that's future wife in a 63 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: linen dress. Energy. 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you think the thing is? Well, 65 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: why do you think you're getting ghosted? 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:17,959 Speaker 3: Well? 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 5: Okay, so when he when he wipes the oat milk 68 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 5: off of my nose, I leaned in to kiss his nose. 69 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 3: I justs he licks the phone off off my nose 70 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: or with his finger. I just thought it was only 71 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: right to balance it with like a romantic like little 72 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: nose peck. In the moment, it felt really romantic. But 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: but the way he reacted was was shocked. 74 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 6: Really, so how did he do? 75 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: We laughed about it? 76 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 5: What about how silly it was? I thought I was embarrassed, 77 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 5: but I thought we were back on track. 78 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: But maybe he's still thinking about it. 79 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: I hope not. 80 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 6: I'm thinking about it. Okay, any think maybe it was 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 6: the nose kiss that did it. 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: That's the only thing I can think of, because other 83 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 5: than that, we really vibed. 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: We really did. 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 7: She used tongue on. 86 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 6: No, no French kiss. 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: Okay, that goes too far. I feel better about that then. Okay, 88 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: all right, we'll see if we can figure it out 89 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: for you. We'll play a song come back, and then 90 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: call him and see if he'll tell us why he's 91 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 2: ghosting you and maybe get you a second date. Okay, okay, 92 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: all right, we'll get your first day follow up next. 93 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: Right in the middle of your first date follow up 94 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: and if you're just joining us, Jenna is on the 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: phone and she's getting ghosted by a guy named Lucas. 96 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: So we're about to call him and see if he'll 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her 98 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: a second date if she still wants one. But before 99 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: we do that, Jenna, why don't you break down your 100 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: date for us again? 101 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 6: Real quick? 102 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 5: Well, our dog's got to meet cute in the park. 103 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 3: We headed off the absolutely Vibe, so we went to 104 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 3: get coffee and talked for like two hours about everything 105 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: under this un really and he the craziest part is 106 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: that he like, I had oat milt foam on my 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: nose and he wiped it off with his finger and 108 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 3: licked it. And I think I'm getting ghosted. So I'm 109 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: just confused. 110 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: Because that would be like, I'm into you moment. I'm 111 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: not licking foam off in my finger. 112 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: I don't like you exactly. 113 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: And you think you might be getting ghosted because at 114 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you kissed his nose to 115 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: balance the nose action. 116 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: At the there was one awkward moment. I was trying 117 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: to roll with the whole like kissing the nose thing, 118 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: and so I kissed his nose and it was awkward, 119 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: but we. 120 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: Laughed it off, led it. 121 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: Off, and so I'm hoping it I'm hoping it's not that. 122 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 4: But that's the only thing I can what bass his 123 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: nose action like that's flaws A not a lot of 124 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 4: days dates first dates have nose action. 125 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 6: All right? 126 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: You ready for us to call him? Yes, Okay, here 127 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:14,679 Speaker 2: we go. Hell, hi, man, I speak to Luca. Please 128 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: this Hey, Luca, how are you? This is a radio show. 129 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: It's called The Jebel Show. 130 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 4: Hi, Luca, I'm Nina. 131 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 6: Hi, I'm and my name is Jebel. How are you. 132 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 6: What's up? 133 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 7: I'm alright, So the three guys. 134 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 6: Yeah you listened to the show ever? 135 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I. 136 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: Listened to you guys before. I mean, it's just kind 137 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: of weird that you guys are calling me. 138 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: Sure. 139 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we're calling you today because we got an 140 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 2: email about you from somebody. 141 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 7: Okay, a good email or like a bed like what 142 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 7: kind of email. 143 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great email. Actually, but we do a 144 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: segment called the first ad follow Up. That's where if 145 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: you go out on a date with somebody and then 146 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: you end up ghosting them, that person can email us 147 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: to get you on the phone and ask why you're 148 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: ghosting them. Okay, so we got an email about you 149 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: from somebody that you're ghosting. 150 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 7: Okay, do you know that would be I mean, I 151 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 7: got a guess, I got a guess. 152 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 6: Take a guess. 153 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 7: I mean, is Jenna the lavender Latte girl? 154 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 6: Yes, j. 155 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, tell us why you're ghosting her? 156 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 8: I mean, she was just she was just kind of weird, 157 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 8: you know, like I mean, I mean the unique sign, 158 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 8: you know, but like she brought a crystal to the 159 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 8: coffee date, like she's like a little amethyst and sat 160 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 8: on the table set and needed to charge. 161 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: She proceeded to give me like a twelve minute speech 162 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: about how she and her dog. 163 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 7: Are twin soles. Oh you know, like. 164 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: She asked me if I ever felt emotionally manipulated by 165 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: her coffee. 166 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: Order, you know, like mostly manipulated by her coffee order. 167 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 7: What does that mean? 168 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 6: Yeah? 169 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a conversation starter. 170 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 7: You Yeah, yeah, great, Yeah that mindsighted but that's nice. 171 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: What's up? Generally? I was just being authentic, but you 172 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: literally said that you wanted someone grounded and real. So 173 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: I showed a reel you. 174 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: You asked the beresta if the oak milk had been 175 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: vibe checked, like there's a. 176 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: Lot because mercury was acting weird. 177 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 5: Energy matters. 178 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean you also tried to stage the table, you know, 179 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: like it was palaesento. 180 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 5: I was protecting our connection. 181 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: I just slightly lightly burned it. 182 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: Listen, you're super interesting, You're funny. But did you notice 183 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: that I barely said two words about myself? 184 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: What? No, Well, we had like a great slow Listen. 185 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: You had a monologue, right, I know about your dog's dreams, 186 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: your third eye chakra. 187 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 7: You're playing abandonment issues. What about me? Did you even 188 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 7: know that I'm an engineer? 189 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 5: Oh, you're an engineer. 190 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 3: That's cool, that's dope. 191 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 6: So I guess that's didn't know. You didn't know that. 192 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: No, I didn't. 193 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's because we never got to meet. 194 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: In the conversation, it was just, I mean, you don't 195 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: know that I moved here where I moved from, or 196 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: that I just simply don't believe in the chakras and 197 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: the crystals and all this. 198 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: You just moved here from where. 199 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 6: I don't think that's the point, Jenna. 200 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry for. 201 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 5: Being in tune with myself. 202 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 9: I'm not trying to knock it all right, Like, you know, 203 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 9: I just felt you weren't really open to who I am. 204 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 9: You know, you were interviewing me for a vibe check, 205 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 9: like you wonder to see if we are vibes match. 206 00:09:59,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 7: And that's it. 207 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: I thought that we clicked. 208 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 7: I mean, you're not. You're not boring, all right, I'll 209 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 7: give you. 210 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: Well, Okay, what if we try again, and maybe we 211 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: do something quieter, like a walk with the dogs and 212 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 3: no talking about past lives. Would you like. 213 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 6: Another day with Jenna will pay for it. 214 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 9: Listen, Jenna, I think you're a lot of things, but 215 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 9: just maybe not my thing. 216 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 7: Okay, like you're cool, but I don't think so. 217 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 3: Just admit it. You vibed more with my dog than me. 218 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your dog is chill like I love the dog. 219 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: That's because he's spiritually grounded, unlike some people. 220 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 7: Can I can I go on a second date with 221 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 7: just a dog? 222 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: Is that cool? 223 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: I mean no, we're inseparable. He gets separation anxiety. I 224 00:10:59,240 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: couldn't just give you. 225 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 6: I think he was joking. 226 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 5: But oh okay, well then I mean, yeah, sure, okay. 227 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: Joble's first day follow up