Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome back to Brown Ambition Episode two.
Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, it's Tiffany again and I'm back.
Speaker 3: So Mandy, welcome back. Yes, coming back. Life is pretty good.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so excited you guys actually download and listen
Speaker 1: to the very first Brown Ambition.
Speaker 3: Yes, we know it was kind of rough. We know
Speaker 3: that we're new at this.
Speaker 1: Yes again, you can email us at Brown Ambition Podcast
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com with all of your complaints and
Speaker 1: make some compliments too, Yes, say something nice. We love
Speaker 1: hearing from you guys. Without further ado, let's start the show.
Speaker 1: Yes for Buzzworthy this week, we wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: something that's not so much in the headlines as a
Speaker 1: part of our daily life, which I'm sure a lot
Speaker 1: of you guys can relate to, and what it's like
Speaker 1: to be the only one in the office, the only
Speaker 1: one who maybe is of color around the table.
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't.
Speaker 1: Really real or appreciate the fact that I was the
Speaker 1: only one in the office until obviously after college, when
Speaker 1: I actually got into an office and got a job.
Speaker 1: And I think that it's challenging in ways that I
Speaker 1: never expected. There was a week recently and again I
Speaker 1: cover finance, which financial journalism is already a pretty small world,
Speaker 1: and you know it's there's very low diversity in general
Speaker 1: and journalism as a profession, which is something that needs
Speaker 1: to be addressed, but especially in financial journalism, there are
Speaker 1: so few of us, and being a woman, you know,
Speaker 1: it's difficult. A couple of weeks ago, I was sitting
Speaker 1: at my desk and I was listening to another podcast
Speaker 1: which I love, called Another Round, which has these two
Speaker 1: great writers from BuzzFeed, Heaven and Tracy, and just listening
Speaker 1: to them talk like we're talking right now, I realize
Speaker 1: I haven't had a conversation with another black woman in
Speaker 1: my place.
Speaker 3: Of work in two three years.
Speaker 1: Wow, Like someone I work closely with, like that I
Speaker 1: can turn to and like say what the like, what's happening?
Speaker 3: What did he just say? Did she just say? Or
Speaker 3: what should we say?
Speaker 1: And having that sense of camaraderie. You know, I feel
Speaker 1: like I get that from my friends outside of work,
Speaker 1: obviously my family and stuff, but there's something about having
Speaker 1: someone to turn to at the office, especially when there's stuff,
Speaker 1: but especially when you're sitting on a table. You know,
Speaker 1: every morning I go to work and we sit around
Speaker 1: the table and talk about our ideas for stories.
Speaker 3: For the week.
Speaker 1: And you know, if we're talking about I don't know,
Speaker 1: gender inequality and income inequality in the wage gap, you know,
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have someone sitting next to me
Speaker 1: to back me up. Yes, if I'm talking about pitching
Speaker 1: an idea to maybe for once not just talk about
Speaker 1: gender inequality as a whole, and maybe mention the fact
Speaker 1: that women of color, Latinos, Latinas and black women are
Speaker 1: way more likely to make face inequities. Yeah, and make
Speaker 1: and make less. That'd be nice.
Speaker 4: So like for me, it's like it's a little different.
Speaker 4: So I'm entrepreneur. I have a business called the Budgetista.
Speaker 4: And so I grew up My parents are African. I
Speaker 4: grew up in a very African household, very homogenious. It
Speaker 4: was like Nigeria Central at home. But then I went
Speaker 4: to a very white middle school in high school, so
Speaker 4: it was like all almost all white at school. I'll
Speaker 4: give you an example of how white like my middle
Speaker 4: school was. I remember I had my best friend Veronica,
Speaker 4: she was the only black girl, and there was one
Speaker 4: other little black boy, Bobby Tyson. I will never forget
Speaker 4: Bobby because every time a girl from school was like, ooh, Tiffany,
Speaker 4: you like Bobby. I'm like, no, you should like Bobby.
Speaker 4: I'm like why so, And so I was like, I
Speaker 4: don't know, it's like sixth seventh grade, you know, like
Speaker 4: that's where you start liking boys, and you know, like
Speaker 4: my friends who were because I had white friends too,
Speaker 4: you know, and so my friends who are white were all,
Speaker 4: you know, they were kind of like linking up and
Speaker 4: starting to like boys.
Speaker 2: And I guess they were.
Speaker 4: Looking around for potential suitors for ten eleven year old Tiffany.
Speaker 2: And they're like, hmmm, it's like the Pickens are slim for.
Speaker 3: The until you were a catch, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2: What about Bobby Tyson?
Speaker 4: For Bobby, he was a really nice guy anyway, So
Speaker 4: now it's a little different as far as being the
Speaker 4: only one. What I found is because I worked for myself,
Speaker 4: I don't go into an office, but sometimes I will
Speaker 4: find like I just did a speaking engagement with a
Speaker 4: really large corporation and I was surprised they asked me
Speaker 4: to speak because when I got in front of the audience,
Speaker 4: it was all I call it the white woman with wealth,
Speaker 4: And I was like, are you sure? So it was
Speaker 4: so bad that there was like maybe when.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you feel why didn't you feel like you
Speaker 1: did you like not feel like you fit in?
Speaker 3: Or that they wouldn't relate to what you were saying.
Speaker 4: You know, I didn't think, cause you know, when it's
Speaker 4: well for those if you've gone to like a white
Speaker 4: high school.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't notice at first, you know, because I'm just
Speaker 4: used to being I was used to being the only brown.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't until there was like one other brown
Speaker 4: woman in the audience. So afterwards I spoke. I did
Speaker 4: a really good job, so I wasn't nervous because I'd
Speaker 4: had no really notice. I mean I kind of noticed,
Speaker 4: but not it wasn't on the forefront of mine mind.
Speaker 2: This woman pulled me to the side and said thank you.
Speaker 4: So much, this brown woman, And I said, oh, you know,
Speaker 4: you're welcome.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking she means in general. She said, no, you
Speaker 2: killed it.
Speaker 4: She said when you came into the room, Tiffany women
Speaker 4: behind me were whispering like I know that's not the
Speaker 4: person who's speaking. I know it's not her, and saying
Speaker 4: basically like what yes, But I didn't know that, you know,
Speaker 4: And so like I know it's not the black girl talking.
Speaker 4: They thought I was there to check the mic, and
Speaker 4: you know, so when I spoke, they didn't, you know,
Speaker 4: because how could I know about personal finance? But like
Speaker 4: I said, I didn't, thankfully. I didn't know that was happening,
Speaker 4: and so I killed it.
Speaker 2: And that to me.
Speaker 1: Is like what brown ambition is all about, yea, because
Speaker 1: people don't realize when you talk about being the only
Speaker 1: one or being what it means to be brown, what
Speaker 1: is black, white, black, Asian, Latino, whatever. It's the fact
Speaker 1: that when you walk in a room, everyone's expectations, not everyone,
Speaker 1: but some people's expectations will already be so low to
Speaker 1: you and you don't know what that does to a person, yes,
Speaker 1: or what you know, you're projecting that onto that person,
Speaker 1: Like we expect so little of you that anything you
Speaker 1: do will be you know, will be surprised.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and less thankfully because of just like this mixed
Speaker 4: kind of like upbringing of like a white high school
Speaker 4: African household. And since now I live in Newark, which
Speaker 4: is like largely black, so because of that, I didn't
Speaker 4: I'm so glad I did not notice the energy because
Speaker 4: I would not have done well, because I would have
Speaker 4: been nervous or maybe tried to overcompensate. But my thought
Speaker 4: was just to do what I always do, you know,
Speaker 4: do a good job and then leave. And when she
Speaker 4: said that, I was kind of just like really, wow.
Speaker 4: I thought she's checking the mic. She's actually speaking wow.
Speaker 4: And then it made me question like, wow, why did
Speaker 4: this organization pick me? They knew the audience was going
Speaker 4: to be white women with wealth and they were like, no,
Speaker 4: we want Tiffany. And so it made me feel good
Speaker 4: that one that they believe me because this is like
Speaker 4: a huge national organization that shows me. And then two
Speaker 4: it made me feel good because and it's such a shame,
Speaker 4: you know, you have to like carry the weight of
Speaker 4: your rates on your back. I know you felt that
Speaker 4: at times. But it made me feel good, like well, like,
Speaker 4: well you did good. So hopefully there's some women audience
Speaker 4: who the next time there's a brown girl in front,
Speaker 4: it's going to be like, well, the last brown girl,
Speaker 4: they're good, so you know, maybe give her a little
Speaker 4: bit more leeway.
Speaker 1: But Cleen, Yeah, how many women of color who were
Speaker 1: in a place of position of power or were like
Speaker 1: killing it in their career Serena Williams comes to mind.
Speaker 1: Miss t Copeland, the you know who was just named
Speaker 1: the first African American principal ballerina at the American Ballet Theater.
Speaker 3: Amazing, I know.
Speaker 1: But they give these interviews and both of them will
Speaker 1: talk about the fact that they feel like they have
Speaker 1: to be amazing. There's this there's this additional pressure on
Speaker 1: top of the pressures of their field that they have
Speaker 1: to come with their a game every time.
Speaker 3: You can't have an off day, because if you have.
Speaker 1: An off day, then oh that's how everyone is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how all your people are.
Speaker 4: Or just attitude, you know, we have this whole brown
Speaker 4: girl attitude like oh so it's like, you know, if
Speaker 4: you if you're having a bad day and maybe you
Speaker 4: just don't like we talked about resting bitch face before,
Speaker 4: just between the two of us, and.
Speaker 3: I totally have I hate thataning guilty, but yeah.
Speaker 4: You know, it's just like and so if that's not
Speaker 4: what it is, it's not I don't necessarily have an attitude,
Speaker 4: but sometimes you have to do this forced fake smile
Speaker 4: so people don't think you're naturally mean. And so, especially
Speaker 4: if you're in the in the audience of the being
Speaker 4: the only one, because then you have to be like
Speaker 4: extra on. I mean after speaking, I literally went home
Speaker 4: and collapsed because I was so exhausted from being like
Speaker 4: extra extra on, because I wanted to, you know, I
Speaker 4: did not want to disappoint the race. I did not
Speaker 4: want to misrepresent the race in the wrong way. Which
Speaker 4: is crazy to have to carry all that. I'm like,
Speaker 4: I should just be able to come and be Tiffany
Speaker 4: and leave and be Tiffany.
Speaker 2: You know, on top of.
Speaker 1: Being of color, you're also a woman in a field
Speaker 1: that has been We both are fields that have historically
Speaker 1: been dominated by men. And I feel when I speak
Speaker 1: up in the newsroom sometimes it's, you know, in the
Speaker 1: back of my head. As much as I try and
Speaker 1: stamp out this part of me, there's a question of, man,
Speaker 1: are they gonna be like, Oh, it's Mandy again talking
Speaker 1: about are all male all white panel? You know, like,
Speaker 1: you know, oh, here comes Mandy. She's just always bitching
Speaker 1: about something, you know, doesn't she wants us to have
Speaker 1: the proper quotas of genders and races and stuff. And
Speaker 1: that's what you know, when you're the only one that's
Speaker 1: more easy to label you as that you know, it's
Speaker 1: more easy to be like, oh, she's just the one problem.
Speaker 4: Person exactly, so it's clearly not an issue because only
Speaker 4: Mandy's complaining, right, It's like, well.
Speaker 1: I wish someone else was here to say it's also
Speaker 1: an issue. There's also pressure on us, and you're talking
Speaker 1: about earlier. There's pressure on you as a black woman,
Speaker 1: me as a black woman, a man is a black
Speaker 1: man to convince others or to explain to others why
Speaker 1: they should be upset about something or where our struggle
Speaker 1: is coming from. I mean, we have to constantly explain
Speaker 1: to people what hashtag black Lives Matter is all about.
Speaker 3: And I feel like.
Speaker 1: It's so easy to educate yourself. Yes, you know what,
Speaker 1: You're not going to get this kind of education from
Speaker 1: like a school. I mean, you can't sit here and
Speaker 1: tell me, oh, well, they didn't teach us then in school,
Speaker 1: so it's okay, I'm ignorant.
Speaker 3: I didn't teach me either.
Speaker 1: I had to go out and read about, you know,
Speaker 1: my ancestry and the history of civil rights movement, and
Speaker 1: the civil rights movement's happening right now.
Speaker 3: I'm just going, you know, just hit.
Speaker 1: Up Google or Yahoo dot com search Yahoo's searching and
Speaker 1: find out for yourself. There's no reason why, there's no
Speaker 1: excuse to be uneducated about issues.
Speaker 3: There's just none.
Speaker 4: And there's just so many things that you can listen to,
Speaker 4: Like this is great podcast that Maddy and I both
Speaker 4: enjoyed called The Read, and they talk about race all
Speaker 4: the time, and I get it. Sometimes it can be
Speaker 4: really heavy. But then to me, it's like this that
Speaker 4: if you don't want to educate yourself, then just please
Speaker 4: be quiet, because if you're not going to educate yourself,
Speaker 4: then don't be like loud and ignorant. You can't be
Speaker 4: wrong and loud, like just pick one, pick one struggle
Speaker 4: and ride out with.
Speaker 1: That until you've read what you need to read and
Speaker 1: educated yourself. Right. I think silence is Silence can make
Speaker 1: you sound smart. Yes, knowing when to shut the f
Speaker 1: up can make you sound real smart.
Speaker 5: Miley Cyrus Tis Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it is time for our brown break.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you were guys, remember from last
Speaker 4: week we talked about what our brown break is.
Speaker 2: So brown break.
Speaker 3: Is explained to us again.
Speaker 4: So really it's just when you're just like, you know what,
Speaker 4: it's too much, this brown, this brown life, this brown
Speaker 4: skin is just so heavy, and I just need a
Speaker 4: break from certain topics or just something that's happening right now.
Speaker 4: So Mandy and I each choose a brown break and
Speaker 4: we just kind of take a break from it.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me know what's your What are you taking
Speaker 1: a break from this freak?
Speaker 4: So this week I'm taking a break from mister comb
Speaker 4: over himself.
Speaker 2: The donalds me too, me too.
Speaker 4: He is just so offensive and just it's almost like
Speaker 4: he I don't even I don't know, I don't mean,
Speaker 4: I can't possibly understand what goes on in his mind
Speaker 4: when he says things, especially about the Latin community, and
Speaker 4: just you know, just so just racist and I'm just sexist, yeah,
Speaker 4: very And I just I just need a break from Donald.
Speaker 2: I mean I needed a break when he did.
Speaker 3: You know that show what I apprenticed, Yes, I.
Speaker 2: Just needed It was just too much and I just
Speaker 2: needed to.
Speaker 1: Be so much worse now because people are not because
Speaker 1: he's everywhere. Yeah, you know, and you know what, my people,
Speaker 1: the media, it's our fault. Honestly, we've made him into
Speaker 1: a subject worth talking about ourselves.
Speaker 4: Yes, So that's it my break, taking Donald break, And
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about Donald for a little while.
Speaker 2: Just stay out of my mentions with it.
Speaker 1: I recommend twelve doses of ignoring CNN dot com and
Speaker 1: also CNN the channel.
Speaker 3: That is my prescription for you, Thank you.
Speaker 1: My break this week is something that if you've ever
Speaker 1: written on the Internet, which is what I do as
Speaker 1: my job, that's how I get paid some way and somehow.
Speaker 1: You know, my biggest fee, your biggest fear is the
Speaker 1: Internet troll Internet commenters. Perhaps it's because I write for Yahoo,
Speaker 1: which has a one hundred ga jillion bajillion readership. Every
Speaker 1: day people log in, and some people log in just
Speaker 1: to troll, just to say racist things, just to get
Speaker 1: on their soapbox.
Speaker 4: So maybe let's take a walk back, so tell them
Speaker 4: what trolling means on the internet.
Speaker 1: Trolling Okay, So let's say you see an article. I'll
Speaker 1: give it an example. So I was down in New
Speaker 1: Orleans a couple of weeks ago to cover the ten
Speaker 1: year I hate calling it the anniversary, but it's been
Speaker 1: ten years since Hurricane Katrina obliterated the Gulf Coast. So
Speaker 1: I was down there and I was doing some stories
Speaker 1: about how African American men in particular have been left
Speaker 1: behind from sort of the revival of New Orleans. They
Speaker 1: still earn less, they're still way more likely to be
Speaker 1: in jail, they're still way less likely to have a job.
Speaker 1: So I write this story and within a minute of
Speaker 1: publishing it, and you know, a minute's not long enough
Speaker 1: to read two thousand words. I'm not a mathetician, but
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's not immediately emails, immediately comments why
Speaker 1: would I ever hire black people? This is all Obama's fault.
Speaker 1: We can't you know the same thing. Oh, you know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna say. They're gonna say the government shouldn't
Speaker 1: be supporting these people. You know, they're all just so lazy,
Speaker 1: just racist, racist, racist stuff. And it's it kind of
Speaker 1: diminishes your faith in humanity because you write that I
Speaker 1: wrote that story with like such heart and such you know,
Speaker 1: taking so much care of the people I talked to,
Speaker 1: and they were so open with me. Maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: speaking for my own personal experience, but having a very
Speaker 1: proud black father, it's not easy for a black man
Speaker 1: to admit that he is failing in a way and
Speaker 1: that it might be out of his control, and that
Speaker 1: he's not able to provide for his family, and the
Speaker 1: fact that I had gotten these men to open up
Speaker 1: to me about this experience and what it's like being
Speaker 1: in post Katrina New Orleans was very like it was
Speaker 1: a personal story. I know I shouldn't, like, you know,
Speaker 1: put myself in a story, but it was.
Speaker 3: It was personal.
Speaker 1: I take it very seriously, and it's it's even it's
Speaker 1: all that makes it all the more hurtful when we
Speaker 1: have Internet trolls who just want to say completely unrelated
Speaker 1: stuff about my story and use the fact that I
Speaker 1: write for a major website and use that as their soapbox.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very disheartening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was never like. It was never I didn't
Speaker 1: want to give them a platform. I want to give
Speaker 1: people on my story a platform.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it's about trolls.
Speaker 2: I always hear Opel say, don't read the comments.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes every once in the blue moon there might
Speaker 1: be a thoughtful comment. But I'm with like, I feel
Speaker 1: like you should just.
Speaker 3: Get rid of them. I wish we could get rid
Speaker 3: of comments. I don't know why we don't.
Speaker 4: I remember one time I did this interview with huff
Speaker 4: Post Live, and I talked about how when I was
Speaker 4: like twenty five. I had made this really big investment mistake,
Speaker 4: and a friend of mine, well clearly not a friend,
Speaker 4: but air quotes a friend of mine like stole all
Speaker 4: this money from me off a credit card. And I
Speaker 4: was just explaining, like, I was really young and I
Speaker 4: made this dumb.
Speaker 2: Mistake, but I was using it.
Speaker 4: I used that mistake as a catalyst to start the
Speaker 4: Budgetista and to help people who had made their own
Speaker 4: financial mistakes. You would think there's nothing to say about that.
Speaker 4: People went and you're the dumbest thing.
Speaker 3: How dare you be humanity?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just I can't believe you did that.
Speaker 4: Clearly you were selling yourself, your bodies just some crazy
Speaker 4: some woman said something so hurtful I had to write
Speaker 4: her back. And I wrote her back and I said,
Speaker 4: you know, this is so hurtful. I was twenty five
Speaker 4: years old, and at the time, my goal for investing
Speaker 4: this money with my friend was because I really wanted
Speaker 4: my parents to work so hard their whole lives. I
Speaker 4: really wanted to use that money to help them with
Speaker 4: bills and stuff. And that's the reason why, you know,
Speaker 4: I made this choice to trust this person because the
Speaker 4: person was my friend at the time. He was independently wealthy,
Speaker 4: and that's why I made this choice. I guess I
Speaker 4: don't know what I didn't. I didn't hurt at her,
Speaker 4: I wasn't rude, but she was so shamed. She rolled
Speaker 4: back and said, I'm so sorry. I'm ashamed of myself.
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it, she said, you know, I was
Speaker 4: projecting on you my own insecurities and thoughts and feelings.
Speaker 2: I truly apologize.
Speaker 1: So amazing how nice they are when you email them
Speaker 1: back and you prove that you're a human.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well not all of them. Some people were just
Speaker 2: like I don't care.
Speaker 1: I take I make it a point to email when
Speaker 1: it's an email. See, leaving a comment is easy. But
Speaker 1: if you go out of your way to find my
Speaker 1: email address, which I don't make easy, and you've found
Speaker 1: it and you've taken the time to email me something hurtful,
Speaker 1: then I respond ninety nine point nine percent of the
Speaker 1: time thoughtfully, and I would say about seventy five percent
Speaker 1: of the time I get it. I get an email
Speaker 1: back with someone who's very polite. Yeah polite, and they
Speaker 1: might have just said the most racist thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're going to take.
Speaker 4: A brown break from that Trump and you Internet trolls
Speaker 4: you know who you are, not not our BA audience, No,
Speaker 4: but the trolls don't take this opportunity to email on
Speaker 4: the foolishes either, like, oh, they need.
Speaker 2: Some trolls in their all right.
Speaker 4: So, now that we have taken our brown break, if
Speaker 4: you have a brown break, we'd love to hear, because
Speaker 4: sometimes Mandy and I might not need a brown break,
Speaker 4: You might need one, and we'd love to share it.
Speaker 4: You can share your brown break with us at Brown
Speaker 4: Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. That's Ambition Podcast at
Speaker 4: gmail dot com, and we will share it and we
Speaker 4: can break together.
Speaker 1: All Right, guys, it's time for one of our favorite segments,
Speaker 1: Tip of the Week. I'm going to go first this
Speaker 1: week because I get this question all of the time.
Speaker 1: I am desperately wanting to know how I can negotiate
Speaker 1: a higher salary for myself when I am going from
Speaker 1: one job to the next.
Speaker 3: This may be a bit.
Speaker 1: Controversial, but I say there's nothing wrong with inflating your
Speaker 1: salary a little bit so that you get a bigger
Speaker 1: bump from the job that's looking to hire you. And
Speaker 1: here's why. If you go in with a salary that
Speaker 1: you're already unhappy with. Like, let's say this is what.
Speaker 5: I'd done for three years.
Speaker 3: Early in my career.
Speaker 1: I didn't negotiate, so I was already at a low
Speaker 1: salary point, Like I missed that on three years worth
Speaker 1: of raises because I didn't negotiate.
Speaker 3: When I was.
Speaker 1: Looking to get hired at a new place, I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: I should be at this level, but I'm not because
Speaker 1: I haven't been negotiating. So I need to find a
Speaker 1: way to, like moralistically, ethically, make it okay to lie
Speaker 1: just a little bit about my base salary. So here's
Speaker 1: what I did. Let's make myself feel better. You can
Speaker 1: add in any little perk that you get. Do you
Speaker 1: get free snacks? Do they give you transportation of subsidies
Speaker 1: for your car, whether it's gas money or paying for
Speaker 1: your metro car to take the subway to work?
Speaker 3: Any little perks that you get do they give you?
Speaker 3: Do they pay for party?
Speaker 1: Your cell phone bill that goes into your base salary
Speaker 1: on top of that? Do you have any things like
Speaker 1: stock options? Do you get a bonus every year? All
Speaker 1: that gets ated on top.
Speaker 3: Of your base salary.
Speaker 1: So by the end of it, I was about fifteen
Speaker 1: percent higher at my base when I went into this job,
Speaker 1: and because of that, they're not just going to meet
Speaker 1: you where you say you are, They're obviously going to
Speaker 1: give you an extra ten or fifteen percent above that.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I worked out
Speaker 1: a twenty five percent raise just because I gave my
Speaker 1: base salary a lit little bit of a boost. And
Speaker 1: there's some quid pro quote quotes like you should do
Speaker 1: your research. You should make sure that whatever you're giving
Speaker 1: them is still within range of what's acceptable for the
Speaker 1: job that you're going in for. You can easily find
Speaker 1: salary estimates on glassdoor dot com or salary dot com
Speaker 1: and ask friends who are in the same field as
Speaker 1: you to get a sense of what's realistic, because the
Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is ask for way
Speaker 1: too much, which is going to turn off an impossible
Speaker 1: potential employer. So that's my tip. And don't be afraid.
Speaker 1: I was like sweaty palms on the phone, like telling
Speaker 1: this not quite a lie, but kind of a lie.
Speaker 1: But in the end, I feel like I'm finally made
Speaker 1: up for those three years when I wasn't asking for
Speaker 1: what I deserved.
Speaker 2: Mandy woodro if you is smart.
Speaker 4: So my tip for this week is to create a
Speaker 4: money team. So if anybody watches boxing, you've probably heard
Speaker 4: of Floyd Mayweather and he has a money team, which
Speaker 4: mister Bieber is on.
Speaker 3: I need the people who take pictures of him with
Speaker 3: suitcase full of cash.
Speaker 4: Yes, but you're not gonna have that kind of money team.
Speaker 4: Your money team really is just a team of just
Speaker 4: people who hold you accountable. So on your money team,
Speaker 4: you'd want your accountant because you're gonna have to pay taxes.
Speaker 4: You're gonna want bay, your significant other partner to be
Speaker 4: on board. You're gonna want at least one friend, don't. Well,
Speaker 4: that's okay if you don't have a base. So this
Speaker 4: is just some potential people who can be on your
Speaker 4: money team. So you can have your sister, a coworker,
Speaker 4: someone at least some other person aside from you who's
Speaker 4: working towards similar financial goals, and you guys can work
Speaker 4: toward them together. They don't have to be financial experts,
Speaker 4: just someone who's a good cheerleader. So no one who's
Speaker 4: gonna make you feel bad, like, oh so you bought
Speaker 4: that dress.
Speaker 2: Huh, that's why you're broke.
Speaker 4: That is the antithesis antithesis to a money team member.
Speaker 4: You want someone who is gonna, you know, congratulate you
Speaker 4: when you do well and hold your accountable when you
Speaker 4: kind of fall off. So that's just really really critical
Speaker 4: to have just someone on your team, like I said,
Speaker 4: outside of your professionals, like a financial advisor, a CPA,
Speaker 4: an accountant, and if you are owning a business, you
Speaker 4: might want to have a business coach. Those are just
Speaker 4: some things, but at the very least, an accountability partner,
Speaker 4: someone who you can just check in with weekly or
Speaker 4: bi weekly on some of your financial goals. It's like
Speaker 4: going to the gym with someone you know there's gonna
Speaker 4: be some days that you don't feel like going and
Speaker 4: your partner's like, well, let's go. And some days your
Speaker 4: partner doesn't feel like going and you motivate them. So
Speaker 4: get yourself a money team.
Speaker 2: So some wins.
Speaker 3: Let's move on to wins, Yes, wins of the week.
Speaker 3: You go first.
Speaker 4: So I'm way up. I feel blessed. Here's why because
Speaker 4: oh right, hashtag blessed. So I have bae based Superman.
Speaker 4: That's his his ego, his name, his alter ego. I
Speaker 4: call him Superman. And because I've been happy in love
Speaker 4: with Superman for the last year and a half, I've
Speaker 4: also been gaining happy love weight.
Speaker 3: And yeah, isn't that great Wendy cooking that good food?
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, I just put on a little extra twenty pass.
Speaker 4: So because I'm the Budgetiessa, I'm really not looking forward
Speaker 4: to buying a whole new wardrobe. So I said Tiffany,
Speaker 4: I have to come down at least some.
Speaker 3: There's not a magic like weight number.
Speaker 1: It's like, really when you get to the point where
Speaker 1: you to spend money, Yes.
Speaker 2: That's really for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so for me, I don't really like for me,
Speaker 4: I don't you know the amount is so much, it's
Speaker 4: not so important. Is that Literally things are just like
Speaker 4: too tight or like address that I have.
Speaker 2: So normally are like a jeans and sneakers girl.
Speaker 4: And so I have some dresses that if I'm speaking
Speaker 4: as the Budgetiessa, I have like some Budgeanisa clothes, and
Speaker 4: my Budgetissa clothes are looking like club clothes.
Speaker 3: They're all like super tight, like They'm like, so I
Speaker 3: can't wear this.
Speaker 2: When I speak at my next engagement.
Speaker 4: And so I've joined the gym and I joined before,
Speaker 4: but I'm actually back at it, and so, yes, that
Speaker 4: is my win this week, that I'm back at the gym.
Speaker 4: So I can, like, you know, bring this delicious down
Speaker 4: to a mild roar.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I can just get back in shape.
Speaker 3: Excellent about you, you know I have.
Speaker 1: I'm a proud big sister, and I'm gonna give my
Speaker 1: winn of the Week award to my baby brother who's
Speaker 1: not a baby anymore. Alex James. He's twenty three years old.
Speaker 1: He just graduated from the University of Georgia, which happens
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 3: My alma mater too.
Speaker 1: He graduated in May, and he had not one, not two,
Speaker 1: but three job offers before he even graduated. He studied
Speaker 1: sales and marketing and he has an amazing job with
Speaker 1: the company that I don't know if I should mention
Speaker 1: or not, but he has an amazing job as a
Speaker 1: sales representative. And I was so proud listening to him
Speaker 1: not only get three job offers, but like work, these
Speaker 1: people he had them, you know, competing for him. Oh,
Speaker 1: I got the offer from this one place. What can
Speaker 1: you do? Oh, they're going to give me moving expenses?
Speaker 3: What can you do?
Speaker 1: He was playing them like a violin, and it was
Speaker 1: I was really proud of him. And he's just he's everything.
Speaker 1: He's Brown Ambition to me. He's such a strong young
Speaker 1: man and I'm just so proud of him. And he's
Speaker 1: living in Atlanta now in a sweet little apartment. And
Speaker 1: that's not even the fact that he's earning good money.
Speaker 1: It's the fact that he's being really responsible.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: So we're going to give a happy dance for Alex James.
Speaker 1: Alex James and everyone who's graduating college and doing their
Speaker 1: damn thing, yes, earning money, saving money, and being responsible.
Speaker 1: Because you hear so much crap about how millennials, especially irresponsible,
Speaker 1: especially Brown irresponsible living with their parents, living in the basement,
Speaker 1: don't want to be held accountable. And I think that
Speaker 1: my brother and his friends are an excellent example of
Speaker 1: the opposite of that, as do I.
Speaker 2: So that's it for Brown Ambition this week. I hope
Speaker 2: you enjoyed.
Speaker 4: If you have a win of the week you'd like
Speaker 4: to share, please please please send it on over or
Speaker 4: you just have some comments, questions, maybe you have something
Speaker 4: you want us to talk about. You can send it
Speaker 4: to Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. You can
Speaker 4: also tweet us at the BA podcast and Facebook us
Speaker 4: at Brian Ambition, and we will respond and hopefully read
Speaker 4: some of what you share with us on the air.