1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,040 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome back to Brown Ambition Episode two. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Hey hey, hey, it's Tiffany again and I'm back. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: So Mandy, welcome back. Yes, coming back. Life is pretty good. 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm so excited you guys actually download and listen 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: to the very first Brown Ambition. 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: Yes, we know it was kind of rough. We know 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: that we're new at this. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Yes again, you can email us at Brown Ambition Podcast 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com with all of your complaints and 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: make some compliments too, Yes, say something nice. We love 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: hearing from you guys. Without further ado, let's start the show. 12 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: Yes for Buzzworthy this week, we wanted to talk about 13 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: something that's not so much in the headlines as a 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: part of our daily life, which I'm sure a lot 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: of you guys can relate to, and what it's like 16 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: to be the only one in the office, the only 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: one who maybe is of color around the table. 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't. 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: Really real or appreciate the fact that I was the 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: only one in the office until obviously after college, when 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: I actually got into an office and got a job. 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: And I think that it's challenging in ways that I 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: never expected. There was a week recently and again I 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: cover finance, which financial journalism is already a pretty small world, 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: and you know it's there's very low diversity in general 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: and journalism as a profession, which is something that needs 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: to be addressed, but especially in financial journalism, there are 28 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: so few of us, and being a woman, you know, 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: it's difficult. A couple of weeks ago, I was sitting 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: at my desk and I was listening to another podcast 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: which I love, called Another Round, which has these two 32 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: great writers from BuzzFeed, Heaven and Tracy, and just listening 33 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: to them talk like we're talking right now, I realize 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I haven't had a conversation with another black woman in 35 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: my place. 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: Of work in two three years. 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: Wow, Like someone I work closely with, like that I 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: can turn to and like say what the like, what's happening? 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: What did he just say? Did she just say? Or 40 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: what should we say? 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: And having that sense of camaraderie. You know, I feel 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: like I get that from my friends outside of work, 43 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: obviously my family and stuff, but there's something about having 44 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: someone to turn to at the office, especially when there's stuff, 45 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: but especially when you're sitting on a table. You know, 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: every morning I go to work and we sit around 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: the table and talk about our ideas for stories. 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 3: For the week. 49 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: And you know, if we're talking about I don't know, 50 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: gender inequality and income inequality in the wage gap, you know, 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have someone sitting next to me 52 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: to back me up. Yes, if I'm talking about pitching 53 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: an idea to maybe for once not just talk about 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: gender inequality as a whole, and maybe mention the fact 55 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: that women of color, Latinos, Latinas and black women are 56 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: way more likely to make face inequities. Yeah, and make 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: and make less. That'd be nice. 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 4: So like for me, it's like it's a little different. 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 4: So I'm entrepreneur. I have a business called the Budgetista. 60 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: And so I grew up My parents are African. I 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 4: grew up in a very African household, very homogenious. It 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 4: was like Nigeria Central at home. But then I went 63 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 4: to a very white middle school in high school, so 64 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 4: it was like all almost all white at school. I'll 65 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: give you an example of how white like my middle 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: school was. I remember I had my best friend Veronica, 67 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: she was the only black girl, and there was one 68 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 4: other little black boy, Bobby Tyson. I will never forget 69 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,279 Speaker 4: Bobby because every time a girl from school was like, ooh, Tiffany, 70 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: you like Bobby. I'm like, no, you should like Bobby. 71 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: I'm like why so, And so I was like, I 72 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: don't know, it's like sixth seventh grade, you know, like 73 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 4: that's where you start liking boys, and you know, like 74 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: my friends who were because I had white friends too, 75 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: you know, and so my friends who are white were all, 76 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: you know, they were kind of like linking up and 77 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: starting to like boys. 78 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: And I guess they were. 79 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: Looking around for potential suitors for ten eleven year old Tiffany. 80 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: And they're like, hmmm, it's like the Pickens are slim for. 81 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: The until you were a catch, Yes, exactly. 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: What about Bobby Tyson? 83 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 4: For Bobby, he was a really nice guy anyway, So 84 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 4: now it's a little different as far as being the 85 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: only one. What I found is because I worked for myself, 86 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 4: I don't go into an office, but sometimes I will 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 4: find like I just did a speaking engagement with a 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: really large corporation and I was surprised they asked me 89 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: to speak because when I got in front of the audience, 90 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: it was all I call it the white woman with wealth, 91 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: And I was like, are you sure? So it was 92 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 4: so bad that there was like maybe when. 93 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: Why didn't you feel why didn't you feel like you 94 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: did you like not feel like you fit in? 95 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: Or that they wouldn't relate to what you were saying. 96 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 4: You know, I didn't think, cause you know, when it's 97 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: well for those if you've gone to like a white 98 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: high school. 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: I didn't. 100 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: I didn't notice at first, you know, because I'm just 101 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 4: used to being I was used to being the only brown. 102 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 4: But it wasn't until there was like one other brown 103 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: woman in the audience. So afterwards I spoke. I did 104 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: a really good job, so I wasn't nervous because I'd 105 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: had no really notice. I mean I kind of noticed, 106 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: but not it wasn't on the forefront of mine mind. 107 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: This woman pulled me to the side and said thank you. 108 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: So much, this brown woman, And I said, oh, you know, 109 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: you're welcome. 110 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: I'm thinking she means in general. She said, no, you 111 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: killed it. 112 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 4: She said when you came into the room, Tiffany women 113 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 4: behind me were whispering like I know that's not the 114 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 4: person who's speaking. I know it's not her, and saying 115 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 4: basically like what yes, But I didn't know that, you know, 116 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: And so like I know it's not the black girl talking. 117 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 4: They thought I was there to check the mic, and 118 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: you know, so when I spoke, they didn't, you know, 119 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: because how could I know about personal finance? But like 120 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 4: I said, I didn't, thankfully. I didn't know that was happening, 121 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 4: and so I killed it. 122 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: And that to me. 123 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: Is like what brown ambition is all about, yea, because 124 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: people don't realize when you talk about being the only 125 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: one or being what it means to be brown, what 126 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: is black, white, black, Asian, Latino, whatever. It's the fact 127 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: that when you walk in a room, everyone's expectations, not everyone, 128 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: but some people's expectations will already be so low to 129 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: you and you don't know what that does to a person, yes, 130 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: or what you know, you're projecting that onto that person, 131 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Like we expect so little of you that anything you 132 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: do will be you know, will be surprised. 133 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, and less thankfully because of just like this mixed 134 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: kind of like upbringing of like a white high school 135 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 4: African household. And since now I live in Newark, which 136 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 4: is like largely black, so because of that, I didn't 137 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,559 Speaker 4: I'm so glad I did not notice the energy because 138 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 4: I would not have done well, because I would have 139 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: been nervous or maybe tried to overcompensate. But my thought 140 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 4: was just to do what I always do, you know, 141 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: do a good job and then leave. And when she 142 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: said that, I was kind of just like really, wow. 143 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 4: I thought she's checking the mic. She's actually speaking wow. 144 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 4: And then it made me question like, wow, why did 145 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: this organization pick me? They knew the audience was going 146 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 4: to be white women with wealth and they were like, no, 147 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 4: we want Tiffany. And so it made me feel good 148 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: that one that they believe me because this is like 149 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: a huge national organization that shows me. And then two 150 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 4: it made me feel good because and it's such a shame, 151 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 4: you know, you have to like carry the weight of 152 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 4: your rates on your back. I know you felt that 153 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 4: at times. But it made me feel good, like well, like, 154 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: well you did good. So hopefully there's some women audience 155 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: who the next time there's a brown girl in front, 156 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: it's going to be like, well, the last brown girl, 157 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: they're good, so you know, maybe give her a little 158 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: bit more leeway. 159 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: But Cleen, Yeah, how many women of color who were 160 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: in a place of position of power or were like 161 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: killing it in their career Serena Williams comes to mind. 162 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: Miss t Copeland, the you know who was just named 163 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: the first African American principal ballerina at the American Ballet Theater. 164 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 3: Amazing, I know. 165 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: But they give these interviews and both of them will 166 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: talk about the fact that they feel like they have 167 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: to be amazing. There's this there's this additional pressure on 168 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: top of the pressures of their field that they have 169 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: to come with their a game every time. 170 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: You can't have an off day, because if you have. 171 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: An off day, then oh that's how everyone is, Yeah, 172 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: how all your people are. 173 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 4: Or just attitude, you know, we have this whole brown 174 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 4: girl attitude like oh so it's like, you know, if 175 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 4: you if you're having a bad day and maybe you 176 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 4: just don't like we talked about resting bitch face before, 177 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 4: just between the two of us, and. 178 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: I totally have I hate thataning guilty, but yeah. 179 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: You know, it's just like and so if that's not 180 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: what it is, it's not I don't necessarily have an attitude, 181 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: but sometimes you have to do this forced fake smile 182 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: so people don't think you're naturally mean. And so, especially 183 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: if you're in the in the audience of the being 184 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: the only one, because then you have to be like 185 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: extra on. I mean after speaking, I literally went home 186 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: and collapsed because I was so exhausted from being like 187 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: extra extra on, because I wanted to, you know, I 188 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: did not want to disappoint the race. I did not 189 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: want to misrepresent the race in the wrong way. Which 190 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: is crazy to have to carry all that. I'm like, 191 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: I should just be able to come and be Tiffany 192 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: and leave and be Tiffany. 193 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: You know, on top of. 194 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: Being of color, you're also a woman in a field 195 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: that has been We both are fields that have historically 196 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: been dominated by men. And I feel when I speak 197 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: up in the newsroom sometimes it's, you know, in the 198 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: back of my head. As much as I try and 199 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: stamp out this part of me, there's a question of, man, 200 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: are they gonna be like, Oh, it's Mandy again talking 201 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: about are all male all white panel? You know, like, 202 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, oh, here comes Mandy. She's just always bitching 203 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: about something, you know, doesn't she wants us to have 204 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: the proper quotas of genders and races and stuff. And 205 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: that's what you know, when you're the only one that's 206 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: more easy to label you as that you know, it's 207 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: more easy to be like, oh, she's just the one problem. 208 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 4: Person exactly, so it's clearly not an issue because only 209 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 4: Mandy's complaining, right, It's like, well. 210 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: I wish someone else was here to say it's also 211 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: an issue. There's also pressure on us, and you're talking 212 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: about earlier. There's pressure on you as a black woman, 213 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: me as a black woman, a man is a black 214 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: man to convince others or to explain to others why 215 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: they should be upset about something or where our struggle 216 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: is coming from. I mean, we have to constantly explain 217 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: to people what hashtag black Lives Matter is all about. 218 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: And I feel like. 219 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: It's so easy to educate yourself. Yes, you know what, 220 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: You're not going to get this kind of education from 221 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: like a school. I mean, you can't sit here and 222 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: tell me, oh, well, they didn't teach us then in school, 223 00:09:58,600 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: so it's okay, I'm ignorant. 224 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: I didn't teach me either. 225 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: I had to go out and read about, you know, 226 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: my ancestry and the history of civil rights movement, and 227 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: the civil rights movement's happening right now. 228 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: I'm just going, you know, just hit. 229 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Up Google or Yahoo dot com search Yahoo's searching and 230 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: find out for yourself. There's no reason why, there's no 231 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: excuse to be uneducated about issues. 232 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: There's just none. 233 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: And there's just so many things that you can listen to, 234 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: Like this is great podcast that Maddy and I both 235 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: enjoyed called The Read, and they talk about race all 236 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: the time, and I get it. Sometimes it can be 237 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 4: really heavy. But then to me, it's like this that 238 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: if you don't want to educate yourself, then just please 239 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: be quiet, because if you're not going to educate yourself, 240 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 4: then don't be like loud and ignorant. You can't be 241 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: wrong and loud, like just pick one, pick one struggle 242 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: and ride out with. 243 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: That until you've read what you need to read and 244 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: educated yourself. Right. I think silence is Silence can make 245 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: you sound smart. Yes, knowing when to shut the f 246 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: up can make you sound real smart. 247 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 5: Miley Cyrus Tis Yeah. 248 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: So it is time for our brown break. 249 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if you were guys, remember from last 250 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 4: week we talked about what our brown break is. 251 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: So brown break. 252 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 3: Is explained to us again. 253 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 4: So really it's just when you're just like, you know what, 254 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 4: it's too much, this brown, this brown life, this brown 255 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 4: skin is just so heavy, and I just need a 256 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: break from certain topics or just something that's happening right now. 257 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 4: So Mandy and I each choose a brown break and 258 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 4: we just kind of take a break from it. 259 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: Okay, let me know what's your What are you taking 260 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: a break from this freak? 261 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 4: So this week I'm taking a break from mister comb 262 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 4: over himself. 263 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: The donalds me too, me too. 264 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 4: He is just so offensive and just it's almost like 265 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: he I don't even I don't know, I don't mean, 266 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 4: I can't possibly understand what goes on in his mind 267 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: when he says things, especially about the Latin community, and 268 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: just you know, just so just racist and I'm just sexist, yeah, 269 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 4: very And I just I just need a break from Donald. 270 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,359 Speaker 2: I mean I needed a break when he did. 271 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 3: You know that show what I apprenticed, Yes, I. 272 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: Just needed It was just too much and I just 273 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 2: needed to. 274 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: Be so much worse now because people are not because 275 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: he's everywhere. Yeah, you know, and you know what, my people, 276 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: the media, it's our fault. Honestly, we've made him into 277 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: a subject worth talking about ourselves. 278 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: Yes, So that's it my break, taking Donald break, And 279 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 4: I don't want to hear about Donald for a little while. 280 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 2: Just stay out of my mentions with it. 281 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: I recommend twelve doses of ignoring CNN dot com and 282 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: also CNN the channel. 283 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 3: That is my prescription for you, Thank you. 284 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: My break this week is something that if you've ever 285 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: written on the Internet, which is what I do as 286 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: my job, that's how I get paid some way and somehow. 287 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: You know, my biggest fee, your biggest fear is the 288 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: Internet troll Internet commenters. Perhaps it's because I write for Yahoo, 289 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: which has a one hundred ga jillion bajillion readership. Every 290 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: day people log in, and some people log in just 291 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: to troll, just to say racist things, just to get 292 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: on their soapbox. 293 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 4: So maybe let's take a walk back, so tell them 294 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: what trolling means on the internet. 295 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: Trolling Okay, So let's say you see an article. I'll 296 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: give it an example. So I was down in New 297 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: Orleans a couple of weeks ago to cover the ten 298 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: year I hate calling it the anniversary, but it's been 299 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: ten years since Hurricane Katrina obliterated the Gulf Coast. So 300 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: I was down there and I was doing some stories 301 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: about how African American men in particular have been left 302 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: behind from sort of the revival of New Orleans. They 303 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: still earn less, they're still way more likely to be 304 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: in jail, they're still way less likely to have a job. 305 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: So I write this story and within a minute of 306 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: publishing it, and you know, a minute's not long enough 307 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: to read two thousand words. I'm not a mathetician, but 308 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's not immediately emails, immediately comments why 309 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: would I ever hire black people? This is all Obama's fault. 310 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: We can't you know the same thing. Oh, you know 311 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: what they're gonna say. They're gonna say the government shouldn't 312 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: be supporting these people. You know, they're all just so lazy, 313 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: just racist, racist, racist stuff. And it's it kind of 314 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: diminishes your faith in humanity because you write that I 315 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: wrote that story with like such heart and such you know, 316 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: taking so much care of the people I talked to, 317 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: and they were so open with me. Maybe I'm just 318 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: speaking for my own personal experience, but having a very 319 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: proud black father, it's not easy for a black man 320 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: to admit that he is failing in a way and 321 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: that it might be out of his control, and that 322 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: he's not able to provide for his family, and the 323 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: fact that I had gotten these men to open up 324 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: to me about this experience and what it's like being 325 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: in post Katrina New Orleans was very like it was 326 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: a personal story. I know I shouldn't, like, you know, 327 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: put myself in a story, but it was. 328 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 3: It was personal. 329 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: I take it very seriously, and it's it's even it's 330 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: all that makes it all the more hurtful when we 331 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: have Internet trolls who just want to say completely unrelated 332 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: stuff about my story and use the fact that I 333 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: write for a major website and use that as their soapbox. 334 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very disheartening. 335 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was never like. It was never I didn't 336 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: want to give them a platform. I want to give 337 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: people on my story a platform. 338 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it's about trolls. 339 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 2: I always hear Opel say, don't read the comments. 340 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 3: Sometimes you gotta. 341 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes every once in the blue moon there might 342 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: be a thoughtful comment. But I'm with like, I feel 343 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: like you should just. 344 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: Get rid of them. I wish we could get rid 345 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 3: of comments. I don't know why we don't. 346 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: I remember one time I did this interview with huff 347 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: Post Live, and I talked about how when I was 348 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: like twenty five. I had made this really big investment mistake, 349 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 4: and a friend of mine, well clearly not a friend, 350 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 4: but air quotes a friend of mine like stole all 351 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: this money from me off a credit card. And I 352 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: was just explaining, like, I was really young and I 353 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 4: made this dumb. 354 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: Mistake, but I was using it. 355 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: I used that mistake as a catalyst to start the 356 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: Budgetista and to help people who had made their own 357 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: financial mistakes. You would think there's nothing to say about that. 358 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: People went and you're the dumbest thing. 359 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: How dare you be humanity? 360 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 4: I mean, that's just I can't believe you did that. 361 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: Clearly you were selling yourself, your bodies just some crazy 362 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: some woman said something so hurtful I had to write 363 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: her back. And I wrote her back and I said, 364 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: you know, this is so hurtful. I was twenty five 365 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: years old, and at the time, my goal for investing 366 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 4: this money with my friend was because I really wanted 367 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: my parents to work so hard their whole lives. I 368 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: really wanted to use that money to help them with 369 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: bills and stuff. And that's the reason why, you know, 370 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: I made this choice to trust this person because the 371 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 4: person was my friend at the time. He was independently wealthy, 372 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: and that's why I made this choice. I guess I 373 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: don't know what I didn't. I didn't hurt at her, 374 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: I wasn't rude, but she was so shamed. She rolled 375 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 4: back and said, I'm so sorry. I'm ashamed of myself. 376 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it, she said, you know, I was 377 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: projecting on you my own insecurities and thoughts and feelings. 378 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: I truly apologize. 379 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: So amazing how nice they are when you email them 380 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: back and you prove that you're a human. 381 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, well not all of them. Some people were just 382 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: like I don't care. 383 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: I take I make it a point to email when 384 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: it's an email. See, leaving a comment is easy. But 385 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: if you go out of your way to find my 386 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: email address, which I don't make easy, and you've found 387 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: it and you've taken the time to email me something hurtful, 388 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: then I respond ninety nine point nine percent of the 389 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: time thoughtfully, and I would say about seventy five percent 390 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: of the time I get it. I get an email 391 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: back with someone who's very polite. Yeah polite, and they 392 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: might have just said the most racist thing. 393 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're going to take. 394 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 4: A brown break from that Trump and you Internet trolls 395 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 4: you know who you are, not not our BA audience, No, 396 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: but the trolls don't take this opportunity to email on 397 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 4: the foolishes either, like, oh, they need. 398 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: Some trolls in their all right. 399 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: So, now that we have taken our brown break, if 400 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 4: you have a brown break, we'd love to hear, because 401 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: sometimes Mandy and I might not need a brown break, 402 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 4: You might need one, and we'd love to share it. 403 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 4: You can share your brown break with us at Brown 404 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. That's Ambition Podcast at 405 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: gmail dot com, and we will share it and we 406 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 4: can break together. 407 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: All Right, guys, it's time for one of our favorite segments, 408 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: Tip of the Week. I'm going to go first this 409 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 1: week because I get this question all of the time. 410 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: I am desperately wanting to know how I can negotiate 411 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: a higher salary for myself when I am going from 412 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: one job to the next. 413 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 3: This may be a bit. 414 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Controversial, but I say there's nothing wrong with inflating your 415 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: salary a little bit so that you get a bigger 416 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: bump from the job that's looking to hire you. And 417 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: here's why. If you go in with a salary that 418 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: you're already unhappy with. Like, let's say this is what. 419 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 5: I'd done for three years. 420 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 3: Early in my career. 421 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: I didn't negotiate, so I was already at a low 422 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: salary point, Like I missed that on three years worth 423 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: of raises because I didn't negotiate. 424 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: When I was. 425 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: Looking to get hired at a new place, I thought, Okay, 426 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: I should be at this level, but I'm not because 427 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: I haven't been negotiating. So I need to find a 428 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: way to, like moralistically, ethically, make it okay to lie 429 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: just a little bit about my base salary. So here's 430 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: what I did. Let's make myself feel better. You can 431 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: add in any little perk that you get. Do you 432 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: get free snacks? Do they give you transportation of subsidies 433 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: for your car, whether it's gas money or paying for 434 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: your metro car to take the subway to work? 435 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: Any little perks that you get do they give you? 436 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 3: Do they pay for party? 437 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: Your cell phone bill that goes into your base salary 438 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: on top of that? Do you have any things like 439 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: stock options? Do you get a bonus every year? All 440 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: that gets ated on top. 441 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 3: Of your base salary. 442 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: So by the end of it, I was about fifteen 443 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: percent higher at my base when I went into this job, 444 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: and because of that, they're not just going to meet 445 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: you where you say you are, They're obviously going to 446 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: give you an extra ten or fifteen percent above that. 447 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I worked out 448 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: a twenty five percent raise just because I gave my 449 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: base salary a lit little bit of a boost. And 450 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: there's some quid pro quote quotes like you should do 451 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: your research. You should make sure that whatever you're giving 452 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: them is still within range of what's acceptable for the 453 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: job that you're going in for. You can easily find 454 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: salary estimates on glassdoor dot com or salary dot com 455 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: and ask friends who are in the same field as 456 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: you to get a sense of what's realistic, because the 457 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: last thing you want to do is ask for way 458 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: too much, which is going to turn off an impossible 459 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: potential employer. So that's my tip. And don't be afraid. 460 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: I was like sweaty palms on the phone, like telling 461 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: this not quite a lie, but kind of a lie. 462 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: But in the end, I feel like I'm finally made 463 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: up for those three years when I wasn't asking for 464 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: what I deserved. 465 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: Mandy woodro if you is smart. 466 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 4: So my tip for this week is to create a 467 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 4: money team. So if anybody watches boxing, you've probably heard 468 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 4: of Floyd Mayweather and he has a money team, which 469 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 4: mister Bieber is on. 470 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 3: I need the people who take pictures of him with 471 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 3: suitcase full of cash. 472 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 4: Yes, but you're not gonna have that kind of money team. 473 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 4: Your money team really is just a team of just 474 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: people who hold you accountable. So on your money team, 475 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 4: you'd want your accountant because you're gonna have to pay taxes. 476 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 4: You're gonna want bay, your significant other partner to be 477 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 4: on board. You're gonna want at least one friend, don't. Well, 478 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: that's okay if you don't have a base. So this 479 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: is just some potential people who can be on your 480 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 4: money team. So you can have your sister, a coworker, 481 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 4: someone at least some other person aside from you who's 482 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 4: working towards similar financial goals, and you guys can work 483 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 4: toward them together. They don't have to be financial experts, 484 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 4: just someone who's a good cheerleader. So no one who's 485 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 4: gonna make you feel bad, like, oh so you bought 486 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 4: that dress. 487 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: Huh, that's why you're broke. 488 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 4: That is the antithesis antithesis to a money team member. 489 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: You want someone who is gonna, you know, congratulate you 490 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 4: when you do well and hold your accountable when you 491 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 4: kind of fall off. So that's just really really critical 492 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 4: to have just someone on your team, like I said, 493 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 4: outside of your professionals, like a financial advisor, a CPA, 494 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 4: an accountant, and if you are owning a business, you 495 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,479 Speaker 4: might want to have a business coach. Those are just 496 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 4: some things, but at the very least, an accountability partner, 497 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: someone who you can just check in with weekly or 498 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: bi weekly on some of your financial goals. It's like 499 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 4: going to the gym with someone you know there's gonna 500 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 4: be some days that you don't feel like going and 501 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: your partner's like, well, let's go. And some days your 502 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: partner doesn't feel like going and you motivate them. So 503 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 4: get yourself a money team. 504 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 2: So some wins. 505 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: Let's move on to wins, Yes, wins of the week. 506 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: You go first. 507 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: So I'm way up. I feel blessed. Here's why because 508 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 4: oh right, hashtag blessed. So I have bae based Superman. 509 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: That's his his ego, his name, his alter ego. I 510 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: call him Superman. And because I've been happy in love 511 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: with Superman for the last year and a half, I've 512 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 4: also been gaining happy love weight. 513 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: And yeah, isn't that great Wendy cooking that good food? 514 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, I just put on a little extra twenty pass. 515 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: So because I'm the Budgetiessa, I'm really not looking forward 516 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: to buying a whole new wardrobe. So I said Tiffany, 517 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 4: I have to come down at least some. 518 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 3: There's not a magic like weight number. 519 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: It's like, really when you get to the point where 520 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: you to spend money, Yes. 521 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: That's really for me. 522 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, so for me, I don't really like for me, 523 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 4: I don't you know the amount is so much, it's 524 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: not so important. Is that Literally things are just like 525 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 4: too tight or like address that I have. 526 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 2: So normally are like a jeans and sneakers girl. 527 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 4: And so I have some dresses that if I'm speaking 528 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: as the Budgetiessa, I have like some Budgeanisa clothes, and 529 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 4: my Budgetissa clothes are looking like club clothes. 530 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: They're all like super tight, like They'm like, so I 531 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: can't wear this. 532 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: When I speak at my next engagement. 533 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 4: And so I've joined the gym and I joined before, 534 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: but I'm actually back at it, and so, yes, that 535 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 4: is my win this week, that I'm back at the gym. 536 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 4: So I can, like, you know, bring this delicious down 537 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: to a mild roar. 538 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, so I can just get back in shape. 539 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: Excellent about you, you know I have. 540 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: I'm a proud big sister, and I'm gonna give my 541 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: winn of the Week award to my baby brother who's 542 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: not a baby anymore. Alex James. He's twenty three years old. 543 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: He just graduated from the University of Georgia, which happens 544 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: to be. 545 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: My alma mater too. 546 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: He graduated in May, and he had not one, not two, 547 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: but three job offers before he even graduated. He studied 548 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: sales and marketing and he has an amazing job with 549 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: the company that I don't know if I should mention 550 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: or not, but he has an amazing job as a 551 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: sales representative. And I was so proud listening to him 552 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: not only get three job offers, but like work, these 553 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: people he had them, you know, competing for him. Oh, 554 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: I got the offer from this one place. What can 555 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: you do? Oh, they're going to give me moving expenses? 556 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 3: What can you do? 557 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: He was playing them like a violin, and it was 558 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: I was really proud of him. And he's just he's everything. 559 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: He's Brown Ambition to me. He's such a strong young 560 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: man and I'm just so proud of him. And he's 561 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: living in Atlanta now in a sweet little apartment. And 562 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: that's not even the fact that he's earning good money. 563 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: It's the fact that he's being really responsible. 564 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: I love it. 565 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 4: So we're going to give a happy dance for Alex James. 566 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: Alex James and everyone who's graduating college and doing their 567 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: damn thing, yes, earning money, saving money, and being responsible. 568 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 1: Because you hear so much crap about how millennials, especially irresponsible, 569 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: especially Brown irresponsible living with their parents, living in the basement, 570 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: don't want to be held accountable. And I think that 571 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: my brother and his friends are an excellent example of 572 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: the opposite of that, as do I. 573 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 2: So that's it for Brown Ambition this week. I hope 574 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: you enjoyed. 575 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 4: If you have a win of the week you'd like 576 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 4: to share, please please please send it on over or 577 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 4: you just have some comments, questions, maybe you have something 578 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 4: you want us to talk about. You can send it 579 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 4: to Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com. 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