WEBVTT - Countdown To Halloween!  SUPERNATURAL Horror Pick #2: “Oculus” 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, everybody. It is Saturday, October 17th, and we

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<v Speaker 1>are in the middle of our Supernatural Horror Saturday. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we are giving our recommendations for our top three supernatural

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<v Speaker 1>horror movies. Not the obvious ones. Obviously, everyone loves The

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<v Speaker 1>Conjuring and Insidious. No, we're going into some deeper cuts,

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<v Speaker 1>some movies that we have absolutely loved. And coming in

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<v Speaker 1>at number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a movie about a mirror? That's not necessarily seemingly sinister,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not just any mirror, TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>No, mirrors play a lot into a lot of horror movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at this moment thinking about it, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect vessel, I guess you could say. Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about earlier, just even every time I close

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<v Speaker 1>my medicine cabinet mirror, I think something scary is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the other side of it. No, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the movie Oculus, and it's coming in at number two.

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<v Speaker 1>This was released April 11th, 2014. So we're talking 12

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<v Speaker 1>years old. but man, it still holds up. We just

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<v Speaker 1>had it on the other day and it's fun. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun, scary movie, if that makes any sense. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there are jump scares. Yes, it's frightening. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>comedy horror, but you enjoy the ride.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, this acting, and I think folks will recognize a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of actors. Actually, one of them has been in

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<v Speaker 2>a big time blockbuster. Um, She just looks different. But yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the acting here, they carry this movie. And how they

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<v Speaker 2>pair people as a brother-sister duo in different ages. Even

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<v Speaker 2>the duos are really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. So here's the synopsis of the movie to get

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<v Speaker 1>you excited. Haunted by the violent demise of their parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds funny I said to get you excited. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty dark next sentence. So my apologies. Haunted by the

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<v Speaker 1>violent demise of their parents ten years earlier, adult siblings... Kaylee,

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<v Speaker 1>who's played by Karen Gillan, and Tim, who's played by

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<v Speaker 1>Breton Thwaites, are now struggling to rebuild their relationship. Kaylee

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<v Speaker 1>suspects that their antique mirror, known as the Lasser Glass,

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<v Speaker 1>is behind the tragedy. The seemingly harmless reflections contain a malevolent,

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<v Speaker 1>supernatural force that infects the mind of anyone who gazes

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<v Speaker 1>into it. As Kaylee gets closer to the truth, the

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<v Speaker 1>siblings become caught in the mirror's evil spell. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they go back and forth in time from when they're

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<v Speaker 1>kids to when they're adults. And that's always fun because

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<v Speaker 1>it keeps the story moving. You're trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what happened when they were kids, what happened to their dad,

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<v Speaker 1>and then what the aftermath of it was as they

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<v Speaker 1>are adults. You mentioned Karen Gillan being a star in

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<v Speaker 1>several blockbuster films that, well... are historic, actually, now at

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<v Speaker 1>this point.

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<v Speaker 2>And the first one that comes to mind is not historic.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Jumanji.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's hilarious. Yes, she's so good in Jumanji. I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>And that is why it's the first thing that comes

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<v Speaker 2>to mind. I didn't think about this until now. You remember,

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<v Speaker 2>I went out and spent a week when Jumanji was

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<v Speaker 2>coming out in Hawaii for a promotional week, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was the first one of them I got to hang

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<v Speaker 2>out with all week. She's fantastic. But yes, Avengers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Avengers Endgame, Guardians of the Galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>The big, short. She's not a household name. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know her name. But the second you see her face,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of those actors where you're like, we're in

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<v Speaker 1>good hands.

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<v Speaker 2>And she, that's crazy. She was in these record-setting blockbuster

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<v Speaker 2>Avenger movies. You don't recognize her. She's this cyborg half thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's blue and mechanic. You can't even tell it's her.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's got a face that's definitely recognizable. Brenton Thwaites

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<v Speaker 1>is in We Bury the Dead. And then Katie Sackhoff, again,

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<v Speaker 1>not a household name. None of these folks are, but

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<v Speaker 1>I swear, the second you see their faces, you'll be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know her. Katie Sackhoff was in Batman Year One,

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<v Speaker 1>Watchmen Chapter One, but she is the mom when they

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<v Speaker 1>go back in time, back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>She's great.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>She's such a good actress. She's such a warm actress.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I see her, it's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just... And again, I couldn't pick out the film

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<v Speaker 1>she was in, and yet I know her face so well.

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<v Speaker 1>The director, you are talking horror movie royalty. So Mike Flanagan,

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<v Speaker 1>he is the director behind the movie Hush, Ouija, Origin

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<v Speaker 1>of Evil, Doctor Sleep, Gerald's Game, just to name a few.

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<v Speaker 1>So he is a veteran horror movie director.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that... For folks listening, if you... It's like

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<v Speaker 2>anything else. Sometimes directors go back and forth between genres.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess not too terribly often, but when you have

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<v Speaker 2>someone who has legit horror movie credits, even if they're

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<v Speaker 2>not the greatest movies or classics, these people are trained

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<v Speaker 2>at some point. And he's got very solid movies to

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<v Speaker 2>his name.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, because obviously when you're watching a movie, especially something

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<v Speaker 1>that is in the supernatural genre, yeah, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>expect some jump scares. You want to be scared. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to be thrilled. You want to have something you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't expecting. Mike Flanagan knows how to do that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Hush is one of the best horror movies that really

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<v Speaker 1>is just two actors. There are a couple people who

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<v Speaker 1>filter in, but when you have someone who can make

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<v Speaker 1>something that is set in one house with two actors

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<v Speaker 1>that compelling, he knows what he's doing.

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<v Speaker 2>That movie is magic. Actually, just as a side note here,

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<v Speaker 2>just a bonus recommendation, check out Hush. We promote that

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<v Speaker 2>movie every time we get a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>And it comes on and off of Netflix and some

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<v Speaker 1>of the streaming services. Every time it comes back on,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, woohoo. Also, I thought Ouija, Origin of Evil

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<v Speaker 1>was a great film too. So I was excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see he did all of those.

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<v Speaker 2>That was fun. It probably wasn't highly rated, but I

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<v Speaker 2>liked that movie a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually am curious what the rating was. The runtime

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<v Speaker 1>on this one is a little longer. We usually like

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<v Speaker 1>an hour 30. This is an hour 45, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>take it. It was definitely, it didn't feel like it

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<v Speaker 1>went longer, which is always a good sign that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a great movie. And I did think this was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>The Rotten Tomatoes score surprised me. What would you think

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<v Speaker 1>it was? Are you looking at it? Oh, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still looking at Ouija, Origin of Evil.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, okay. Okay, so what would you guess the

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<v Speaker 1>critics gave Oculus?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Oculus got, like that part of it, got 60%.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and what do you think the audience score was?

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny. You're totally wrong. So the critics gave

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<v Speaker 1>it 75%. That was higher than I thought. Because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun supernatural horror movie and usually, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>have something to nitpick. They actually had really wonderful things

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<v Speaker 1>to say about this movie. The critics did. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you the critics' consensus. With an emphasis on dread over

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<v Speaker 1>gore and an ending that leaves the door wide open

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<v Speaker 1>for sequels, Oculus could be just the first spine-tingling chapter

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<v Speaker 1>in a new franchise for discerning horror fans. Unfortunately, did

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<v Speaker 1>that come true? Was there another Oculus? That's so funny

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<v Speaker 1>as I'm reading this. I need to know. Was there

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<v Speaker 1>a sequel to Oculus? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I never saw one.

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<v Speaker 1>No. So unfortunately, as much as the critics were actually

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<v Speaker 1>hoping it would be the case, it didn't happen. So hey,

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<v Speaker 1>a girl can hope. Maybe it will happen eventually. But

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<v Speaker 1>the audience score was so much lower than I thought. 54%.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that surprise you as well?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's a, no, because sometimes if you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking for a horror movie and this is what you find,

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<v Speaker 2>you might be annoyed because it doesn't have somebody running

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<v Speaker 2>through the woods being chased by a man in a

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<v Speaker 2>mask who's slashing people. Yeah, this is a very much

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<v Speaker 2>psychological thriller, but it does have some jumps and some

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<v Speaker 2>themes of death and it's dark and it's, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>it's obviously, it's definitely a horror movie, but I could

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<v Speaker 2>see why some would be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's, and you know what? You just nailed it because

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading it. Some people loved it. Some people

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was amazing. And I think everyone said it

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<v Speaker 1>was creepy and had a very interesting, conceptually it was interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>but they wanted more gore. They wanted it to be scarier.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted, they had expectations about this movie that they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't feel like actually ended up being what they saw.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought it was phenomenal. And we absolutely love this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I still hold out hope that there

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<v Speaker 1>could be an Oculus 2. But look, people talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the skillful cutaways, the flashbacks, the unique plot. It's absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things make it worthwhile to watch. So

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back, we're going to tell you where

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<v Speaker 1>you can watch this film and why it is a

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed hit. Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ. We

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<v Speaker 1>are here with your supernatural guaranteed horror hits to get

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<v Speaker 1>you and everyone in your house into the Halloween spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oculus is at our number two and look, This is

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom line. This is why this movie was so

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic to watch. The acting, the actual story, it was

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<v Speaker 1>good storytelling. It was unique. I don't feel like I'd

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<v Speaker 1>seen this horror movie before. So look, we know horror

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<v Speaker 1>movies can be formulaic. I thought this one actually, because

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<v Speaker 1>of all the flashbacks and the back and forth, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a little, it could be a little confusing. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say it kept you interested. It kept you guessing.

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<v Speaker 1>You kept wondering where this movie was going to go next.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't feel formulaic at all. And I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the really cool things about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not. There was not a monster. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>not being a killer on the loose necessarily. It was,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the threat was a mirror. That's pretty impressive

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<v Speaker 2>to pull off.

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<v Speaker 1>And the cool thing about the threat being a mirror

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<v Speaker 1>is what house doesn't have a mirror? Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you watch movies and you think, oh, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be that scared because... I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>put myself in a situation where that could happen to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like when you watch this movie, we

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<v Speaker 1>all look in the mirror every single morning, every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times a day. And so this is kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I think it's fun when a horror movie lingers.

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<v Speaker 1>And after watching Oculus, I feel like the horror movie

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<v Speaker 1>lingers and you're reminded of it every time you look

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<v Speaker 1>in the mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>The ending is really scary. It's creepy. It'll spook you.

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<v Speaker 2>out kind of a thing um yeah the ending's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a good, I mean, you kind of want that,

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<v Speaker 1>especially with a supernatural movie like that. It shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>wrapped up in a bow because there is no lock

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<v Speaker 1>for the devil. There is no, you can't call 911

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<v Speaker 1>when a demonic presence is haunting you through a mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's going to believe you. So yeah, it shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>end up all happy and joyful. No, it needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be messy and gritty and uncomfortable and what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen next. And oh my God, where is this mirror

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<v Speaker 1>going next? Interestingly, The Conjuring, and we loved it, not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody did, but the latest Conjuring, the last in the series,

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<v Speaker 1>they say, all was about a mirror. That, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>is the only other horror movie. There's a Kiefer Sutherland one, too,

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<v Speaker 1>that is about a mirror.

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<v Speaker 2>It's called Mirrors.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Mirrors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what? There's another little fun deep cut recommendation,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bonus recommendation. Did you like that movie, Mirrors,

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<v Speaker 1>with Kiefer Sutherland?

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<v Speaker 2>I loved Kiefer Sutherland, but he's alone in some big, scary,

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<v Speaker 2>spooky place all night with mirrors all over. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>was a good movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was set in New York City. He was

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<v Speaker 1>there to guard some old museum or some rich guy's

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<v Speaker 1>crazy place that was deserted. And yes, this mirror was evil.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mirrors, Oculus, and then The Final Conjuring all leaned

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<v Speaker 1>into this mirror haunting supernatural mirror. But I will tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I have thought about when I've been in an antique store,

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<v Speaker 1>because I do love mirrors and I love cool mirrors

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<v Speaker 1>and old mirrors and I love the idea of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But after seeing this movie and maybe even The Conjuring,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how comfortable I would feel bringing in

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<v Speaker 1>an old mirror into my house.

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<v Speaker 2>The Conjuring mirror was different. It was assaulting people. That

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<v Speaker 2>one was a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>This one had an entity inside of it. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>but seriously, would this make you feel Do you own,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever owned an antique mirror? If I think

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<v Speaker 1>about it now, a mirror that was in someone else's home, possibly,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what it's seen and what it just may

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<v Speaker 1>just energy-wise absorb and then to bring it into your home.

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<v Speaker 1>I never really thought about it until seeing this movie

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<v Speaker 1>about what that would mean to bring an old mirror

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<v Speaker 1>into your home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do I look like an antique mirror kind of guy?

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<v Speaker 2>Not because of... the horrors that might live within it,

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<v Speaker 2>but just antique mirrors aren't really my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're kind of more like a modern guy. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>really into the old stuff. I will say I do

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<v Speaker 1>like antiques. I do like old things. But after seeing

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, I don't think I'd be a fan of

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in an antique mirror. Now, just letting everyone know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is rated R. So I don't know how, the

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<v Speaker 1>kids would get spooked by this, I think. You probably

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<v Speaker 1>need to have a little bit of an older audience,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>And not a bloody movie. Yeah, it's not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of that happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's an important thing to note, too. And I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that the critics pointed that out, that that was

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<v Speaker 1>part of what they loved, that it was creepy and

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<v Speaker 1>scary and thrilling without necessarily being that gory, but it

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<v Speaker 1>does have some scary, scary moments. And we just hope

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<v Speaker 1>you enjoy it as much as we did. So, Oculus,

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<v Speaker 1>number two for your supernatural horror. guaranteed horror hit on

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<v Speaker 1>this Halloween. Please stay tuned, everybody, because in just a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>later in our feed, we will have our number one

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<v Speaker 1>recommendation for a guaranteed supernatural movie to get you all

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<v Speaker 1>in the Halloween spirit. And with that, everyone, we always

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach, alongside TJ Holmes.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you soon.