WEBVTT - Holiday in OTH with Austin Nichols 

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you don't know me.

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<v Speaker 2>All about that high school drama Girl Drama, Girl, all

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<v Speaker 2>about them.

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<v Speaker 1>High school queens. We'll take you for a ride. And

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<v Speaker 1>our comic girl sharing for the right teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Drama Queens jis go up girl Fashion, but your tough girl,

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<v Speaker 2>you could sit with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl Drama, Queens Drama, Queise Drama, Queens Drama, Drahn The

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<v Speaker 1>Queens Drama, Queens Drama, Queen's friends and fam We have

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<v Speaker 1>none other than our very own Austin Nichols. Should we

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<v Speaker 1>bring him in here? Hey buddy, Hi buddy, Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Pal.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you Are you at home in Texas at the moment?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm in Austin and it's gorgeous. It's a beautiful

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<v Speaker 4>day in Paradise. It's spring and it's not hot yet

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<v Speaker 4>and it's green. It's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, that's so fun. Are you, like, are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing stuff on the lake? What's keeping you busy?

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, I've been out on the water getting ready. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to Peru to do this surf trip that I've

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to do, like for twenty years, going and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>finally finally going. It's this wave that's like three kilometers long.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just this thing I've always wanted to do. And

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<v Speaker 4>I finally said, what am I waiting for?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So is the idea that you you ride the wave

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<v Speaker 3>for three kilometers? Is that the goal or the whole?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you don't have to, I mean, I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>part of the attraction to me. Is to do something,

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<v Speaker 4>is to catch something, catch lightning in a bottle, something

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<v Speaker 4>that's unattainable and natural in the in the world, in nature,

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<v Speaker 4>and harness it for as long as you can without

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<v Speaker 4>having to have a machine.

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<v Speaker 3>So is the goal? Then? Is this like an operation

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<v Speaker 3>where you and at least one other buddy, you like,

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<v Speaker 3>park a car down approximately where the wave ends, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you drive back up to the top.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've done something like that, but this is better

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<v Speaker 4>because there's a booat and there's actually going to be

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<v Speaker 4>drones and cameras, and it's there's eight people and basically

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<v Speaker 4>we just tow each other into the wave and then

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<v Speaker 4>you try to ride it all the way in and

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<v Speaker 4>then you get picked up in the boat and you

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<v Speaker 4>go back out.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's so cool. Is this what I saw? I

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<v Speaker 3>sawn your Instagram? You were doing wall sits.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to get my legs strong because the thing

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing, like you're up for so long that your

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<v Speaker 4>your quad's just just get out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah sure, Oh cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad to know. I mean, obviously you are,

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<v Speaker 1>You're a very prepared person and you're an athlete, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad to hear you talk about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you are training for this. I did a dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>cocky thing that really reads a theater kid who knows

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about her body. A couple of years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, ski season, didn't get to go last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hit it and went up a mountain I've skied

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred times, not having skied in essentially two years

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<v Speaker 1>because I'd skipped a season, hadn't been in the gym,

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't done shit like all three Thanksgiving over the holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>And halfway down my first run, I was like, my

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<v Speaker 1>squads are going to explode. I'm gonna die. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to die on this mountain just because I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot that I needed to, like, I don't know, do

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<v Speaker 1>some squats before I tried to do this again. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very humbling and deeply embarrassing for me.

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<v Speaker 3>I committed the same party foul. I was asked to

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<v Speaker 3>go on this. It was sort of like an interview show,

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<v Speaker 3>but the whole thing was like you taught you do

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<v Speaker 3>the interview on the chair lift, and then you snowboarder

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<v Speaker 3>ski all the way down the mountain. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, can you snow where? I'm like, yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I snowboarded in high school. Mind you. I snow word

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<v Speaker 3>like four times in high school. And when we shot this,

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<v Speaker 3>I was thirty five years old. It didn't occur to

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<v Speaker 3>me until I was getting off the lift that I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, farts, I haven't done this in like

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen years, And like you, I paid the price.

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<v Speaker 4>It probably made a bunch much better show.

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<v Speaker 3>It did. The falls were more dramatic, sure, just the flailing.

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<v Speaker 3>The language was more colorful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so cool. Basically, what we've learned so far today

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<v Speaker 1>is that Austin will be the one on the wave,

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<v Speaker 1>and Rob and I would likely be the friends on

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<v Speaker 1>the beach with the beers waiting for you, and you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Dad, dude, I'll be holding that big towel for you

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<v Speaker 3>with a chair roh or a corn dog, whatever you're into.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Great. We love it well.

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<v Speaker 3>We asked fans for questions and they did not disappoint.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you'll allow it, how about we just jump

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<v Speaker 3>right in.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's jump in.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, First one, what did you steal from set? If anything?

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<v Speaker 4>A fake Eames chair? Well we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we put that thing right in the back of

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<v Speaker 1>my audie that rob ed Hardy bombed one time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so in last season, like I think, so if

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<v Speaker 4>you tell me if I'm wrong, But it was maybe

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<v Speaker 4>like there was maybe two one or two shooting days left. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and we knew that the Brooks House was getting wrapped. Yep,

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<v Speaker 4>we've done shooting in there, and we were like, we

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<v Speaker 4>got to get that chair. Those chairs are so expensive

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<v Speaker 4>and the like I wouldn't never pay for one.

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<v Speaker 3>No wait, so who got the chair? You stole it together?

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<v Speaker 3>But who got the loot?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I carried it? Did I carry it? And

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<v Speaker 4>we put it Who's truck?

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<v Speaker 1>We put it in the back of my car in

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<v Speaker 1>the little hatchback station wagon. I don't know how we

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<v Speaker 1>even got it in there, but we made it work.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a good some good fever.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fun and it's nice to be like a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle thief and feel like you're in a buddy cop

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<v Speaker 1>movie because the two of us were like running and

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<v Speaker 1>then hiding behind a wall and then running, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Austin would be like, I'll go duck, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we like made it all the way through the stages

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<v Speaker 1>with these two pieces of furniture, the chair and the ottoman,

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<v Speaker 1>and by the time we got in the car, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, that's going to be my favorite part

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<v Speaker 1>of this whole thing, just the caper of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was the adventure.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, made a little documentary. I think I definitely got

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<v Speaker 4>clothes over the years. But that's kind of that's so

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<v Speaker 4>that's sort of normal. What about you did, Rob? Did

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<v Speaker 4>you steal anything? Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Same as you. I close. But then the only I

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<v Speaker 3>could think of was I still have to this day

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<v Speaker 3>some Fortitude cards Clay Clay's business card, So talk about

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<v Speaker 3>being a gentle thief. While you guys were stealing large

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<v Speaker 3>pieces of designer furniture, knockoff, knock off, I was stealing

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<v Speaker 3>about five or six business cards.

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<v Speaker 4>Hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that I still have business cards from Good Sam.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have these business cards that say I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>cardiothoracic surgeony make me feel very smart.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I would ask you what you stole from set?

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<v Speaker 3>But I know you have a storage unit full of

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<v Speaker 3>multiple boxes of things from the show, so you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have the time for that, do we No.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably have like four plastic bins of stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>over the years. But honestly, the funniest thing is we

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<v Speaker 1>we capered a chair and an automan together. And the

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<v Speaker 1>most like large stuff I've quote stole from set I

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<v Speaker 1>stole for Hillary, like I took her. I took this big,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful like maroon silk lamp shade with tassels and the

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<v Speaker 1>standing lamp, and then this really cool like I think

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<v Speaker 1>they called them telephone tables, a chair with like a

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<v Speaker 1>little attached side table from the fifties that your phone

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<v Speaker 1>would sit on. Uh, And they were from Red Bedroom Records.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we wrapped out the sets, obviously she wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>with us, and I was like, this is bullshit, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking her stuff, and so I had to. I had

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<v Speaker 1>to get the chair and automan out of the tiny

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<v Speaker 1>station wagon to then go back and lift the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the stuff for her.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice you did some damage, Sofia I did well done.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, I own it. Here. We are that's the

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<v Speaker 1>same here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also funny that the idea that you guys even

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<v Speaker 3>were trying to be sneaky about it, because no one

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<v Speaker 3>would have said boo.

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<v Speaker 4>But you don't feel like that in the moment you

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<v Speaker 4>feel like you're gonna get busted. Yeah, sure, totally.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're right.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think anybody would have said no.

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<v Speaker 3>The crew liked you. Wait, I mean, come on, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know you guys would have been fine.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know from the beginning that Brooke was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be your endgame?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I kind of did, but I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>remember how things went down. It was like, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna explore the past with Peyton, and then you're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be Brooks new love interest and then yeah, I kinda,

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<v Speaker 4>but I didn't know it was gonna go four seasons

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<v Speaker 4>and end in marriage and kids. I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think we really could have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because when you came in season six, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what was going to happen with the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we wound up getting the seven and eight

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<v Speaker 1>pick up together, which had never happened before, and to

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<v Speaker 1>get two seasons picked up at the same time is

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<v Speaker 1>so surreal. So yeah, I guess I wonder if maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the reason by the middle of season eight they had

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<v Speaker 1>the characters get married was because everybody thought we were

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<v Speaker 1>going to be done at the end of eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we weren't sure about doing nine. Remember, I think

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<v Speaker 4>we weren't sure.

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<v Speaker 3>No, yeah, I remember they came to the cast and

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<v Speaker 3>were like, Hi, how would you guys feel about a nine?

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<v Speaker 3>And people were like, how about half a season? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think that's why we did the truncated thirteen, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what I remember, And I was really

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<v Speaker 1>proud of us all, like we grew up on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially those of us who had been there

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<v Speaker 1>since we were twenty one. I remember just not knowing

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<v Speaker 1>anything about the business, and by the time they came

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<v Speaker 1>to all of us to be like, Okay, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>all into a season nine, let's talk about it. What

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<v Speaker 1>I loved And I have this memory of all of

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<v Speaker 1>us being like, it feels cool. We don't feel like

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<v Speaker 1>we're ready to be done done, but we also know

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<v Speaker 1>we're all going to need to get jobs after this,

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<v Speaker 1>So how about we wrapp by the end of December

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<v Speaker 1>so we can have the next pilot season free. And

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<v Speaker 1>then it was like it was like summer camp, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're never going to book a show between July and December,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the traditional network world. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, wait, we get to go do thirteen more

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<v Speaker 1>episodes and dink around with our friends and then like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we all start auditioning again. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what a time. But I like that we had that foresight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>I had never seen and we'll get into the we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about this on the episode recap as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I had never seen your guys of stuff from

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<v Speaker 3>season six. I had only I knew of it from

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<v Speaker 3>listening to the podcast before I joined. So it was

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<v Speaker 3>so fun. And the flashback montage, yeah, of Julian and Brooke.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so cool because like Austin, I knew your

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<v Speaker 3>hair got cut too high on the back when you

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<v Speaker 3>got there, and so as I was watching, I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>there is the actual haircut he was talking about, and like,

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<v Speaker 3>here's the edge you're Julian, And it was it was

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<v Speaker 3>so fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 4>That yeah, I agree. That montage made me emotional because

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<v Speaker 4>you see all these iconic moments, like the one that

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<v Speaker 4>that it gets me is when. So if you help me,

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<v Speaker 4>remember it was that outside the USO concert when I

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<v Speaker 4>first got there. No, no, when was this? It was

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<v Speaker 4>when you said I'm finally ready to let someone in.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's when. Isn't that when Brooke goes to

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<v Speaker 1>see Julian on his movie set.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds right because it's all lit and it looks.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Yeah, it looks that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>That's my favorite moments me too.

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<v Speaker 1>Catching up, somebody wants to know what does a day

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<v Speaker 1>in the life of Austin look like? And if I may,

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of want to add to that because you

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<v Speaker 1>have just completed this movie that you have been working

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<v Speaker 1>on for so long that you're so excited about, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're about to open a film festival in

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas with the Salamander King, So I I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to the fans about what a day in

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<v Speaker 1>the life of making this movie has looked like for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Okay, yes, I'm so excited and proud

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<v Speaker 4>it's finally finished and we're going to Dallas at the

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<v Speaker 4>end of April. It's so good to like finish something

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, see it all the way through from

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<v Speaker 4>beginning to end. But you know, there was three years

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<v Speaker 4>of just talking and sending people a pitch or a

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<v Speaker 4>script or just get a phone call her a zoom,

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<v Speaker 4>and nothing happens. And about a year and a half ago,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, Jennifer, my producer, came on, Jennifer Kuchai and

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<v Speaker 4>she that was the moment where the ball started rolling,

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<v Speaker 4>and so thankful to her. And we raised the money

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<v Speaker 4>pretty quickly for a small indie, and we shot it

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<v Speaker 4>in Austin in last June, and post took me all

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<v Speaker 4>the way to I guess about a month ago when

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<v Speaker 4>I finished the sound mix and we're in a festival

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<v Speaker 4>and like that feels it's a year sounds or just

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<v Speaker 4>under a year sounds slow, but it was fast. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe we're already done, and you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>a festival and now we're looking to you know, go

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<v Speaker 4>sell it to buyers, and I you know, I'm kind

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<v Speaker 4>of rambling here, but I just I've never felt this

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<v Speaker 4>feeling of sort of pride in completing something and just

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<v Speaker 4>starting and completing something that feels just so hard. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like the Sissifian task of rolling, you know, the boulder

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<v Speaker 4>up the mountain and yes, man, and then I just

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<v Speaker 4>can't wait to do it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't wait, oh, buddy.

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<v Speaker 3>And so often what we do is that we're either

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<v Speaker 3>joining something halfway in or we're just doing the starting

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<v Speaker 3>stuff and then handing off to someone else. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>so cool that, I mean, you saw this thing through

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<v Speaker 3>from inception to premiere, Like, that's awesome. That is a

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<v Speaker 3>huge accomplishment. Man, you should be proud of yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so happy. And had so many great people. By

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<v Speaker 4>the way, Peter Kowalski was my DP, oh lucky, our

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<v Speaker 4>DP on One Tree Hill. For some of you may

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<v Speaker 4>not know his name, but he was such an important

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<v Speaker 4>part of One Tree Hill. And I was so lucky

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<v Speaker 4>to have such a crack team because Peter was working

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<v Speaker 4>on a TV show in Austin and I went and

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<v Speaker 4>directed that and then I got all that crew to

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<v Speaker 4>come and they'd been working together for four years. So

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<v Speaker 4>I just had this team that was just so dialed

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<v Speaker 4>into each other. Yeah, that was that was part of

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<v Speaker 4>why you ran so smoothly. We didn't have problems. Every

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<v Speaker 4>day was everyone just laughing and having fun. And I

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<v Speaker 4>never thought I would my first movie would be a comedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Never I'm going to make some dark, indie, crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Darling deep bartsy thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And the first thing I makes a comedy, and I

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<v Speaker 4>just want to keep making comedies now. It was just

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<v Speaker 4>so fun and it's funny the way life happens to

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<v Speaker 4>you in that way, and you something you didn't expect

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<v Speaker 4>becomes maybe your next you know path. But to get

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<v Speaker 4>Leaven a little bit more specific about.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my day, I mean, yeah, what does a day

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<v Speaker 1>look like as a director?

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<v Speaker 3>Love?

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<v Speaker 4>I love to I wake up early. I love to

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<v Speaker 4>have some coffee. Sometimes I'll go to the coffee shop

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<v Speaker 4>on South Congress and have a little social time with

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<v Speaker 4>some local Austin coffee stop. Not the I call myself

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<v Speaker 4>a coffee slut, but these local coffee connoisseurs. There's this

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<v Speaker 4>little group and we gather and drink and talk in

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<v Speaker 4>the morning early and then I go home. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't do this every day, but I like to exercise

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning if I can, and then I get

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<v Speaker 4>into writing and I'll sit down and I'll write for

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<v Speaker 4>a while. And then writing is weird because the schedule,

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<v Speaker 4>like everyone's writing habits are different. I like to write

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<v Speaker 4>in the morning, get some done, and I like to

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<v Speaker 4>move and walk or do something, take a break, have lunch,

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<v Speaker 4>get out, get away from it, and then come back

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<v Speaker 4>to it later, whether that's in the afternoon or at night,

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<v Speaker 4>and that helps. I don't know, there's something about like

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<v Speaker 4>flow state, and like, I don't know how it all works,

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<v Speaker 4>but getting the blood pumping and stepping away and then

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<v Speaker 4>coming back is really helpful. If I can't write all day,

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<v Speaker 4>it just for sure crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that totally tracks. I was talking through something with

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<v Speaker 1>my therapist about just like, you know, when what are

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<v Speaker 1>tools for resilience when time is so jammed like March

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<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, I felt like I was working twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours a day, just like meeting to meeting to

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<v Speaker 1>meeting to meeting, and it was making me feel nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, I'm telling you, I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to start setting thirty minute timers and if you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be on a zoom or in a thing for

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<v Speaker 1>an hour, set a timer for an hour and then

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<v Speaker 1>just go on a walk for five minutes and then

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<v Speaker 1>you can come back. And I started just trying to

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<v Speaker 1>reclaim minutes in certain spaces and like, I feel you

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<v Speaker 1>when you say that helps your flow state. It felt

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<v Speaker 1>like it brought me back down to earth, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>was so high strung from the stress and then it

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<v Speaker 1>like just five minutes here and there and I got

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<v Speaker 1>right back into my body and was like whoa.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And the one thing I also discovered by accident

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<v Speaker 4>was the little coffee group friend thing in the morning,

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<v Speaker 4>saytates my community societal thing, and I don't have FOMO

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of the day. M So if I can

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<v Speaker 4>be social talk to some people for a little while,

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<v Speaker 4>then I can go focus and I'm not like wondering

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<v Speaker 4>what everyone else is doing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's brains out, like let's check let's check Instagram for

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<v Speaker 3>a false sense of community.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's funny. It's like I remember someone just saying,

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<v Speaker 3>like go touch grass, and it was that same thing

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<v Speaker 3>where it's like just go outside, yeah, get away from screens,

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<v Speaker 3>go out, take your shoes and socks off, walk around

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<v Speaker 3>in the lawn for a little bit, and it's like

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<v Speaker 3>it's the truth. Though. Man, it is such a good reset,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, So another question here, says uh. Sophia said

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<v Speaker 3>she rewrote her wedding vows herself. Did you rewrite or

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<v Speaker 3>punch up Julian's.

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<v Speaker 1>I did come on Austin's laughing because mine were trash

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<v Speaker 1>like what we saw in the script. We both were like,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be kidding. Made Brook Davis wait eight seasons

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<v Speaker 1>for this and the fans are so amped and like

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<v Speaker 1>we're doing call and repeat with like the traditional vows.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody does know, and so I had to and I

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<v Speaker 1>had to open with a joke because it felt right

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<v Speaker 1>for her.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I thought you did a great job, but it

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<v Speaker 4>was it was really well well done, and glad you

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<v Speaker 4>fought for that, you know, I think, you know, I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no there's no blame or throwing any into the

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<v Speaker 4>throwing anybody under the bus. But we thought that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the church was weird, the location was. We wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>do something outside with lights and like trees and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>something a little more magical, you know, with you know

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<v Speaker 4>how it is with shooting, like it's expensive and locations

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<v Speaker 4>and money, and you get to season eight and people

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<v Speaker 4>are not as don't have the energy they had and

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<v Speaker 4>like that happens, and you know, that was my one

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<v Speaker 4>thing was really the location. Yeah, kind I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>wanted something a little more magical. I guess I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think we wanted it to feel like that scene you

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<v Speaker 1>brought up from the montage, like when Brooke and Julian

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<v Speaker 1>meet on that soundstage and it looks like they're in

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<v Speaker 1>the park and then all the lights go on, Like

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<v Speaker 1>we wanted that for the wedding, and then we got,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no shade, but like we got brown wood walls,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were like, oh, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Liking shade. It's fair because also before you lost the company,

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<v Speaker 3>Before Brook lost the company, you guys were at this

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<v Speaker 3>stupidly palatial estate with like a never ending fucking go

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<v Speaker 3>what do you call that? A garden maze? So it

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<v Speaker 3>is a little weird that you guys went from that

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<v Speaker 3>to being like a church.

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<v Speaker 4>No, they would have spent some money. Brooke wants the

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<v Speaker 4>dreamy wedding. And you know, I will say this because

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching it going and watching it knowing that

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<v Speaker 4>and how we felt about it then, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to watch it with fresh eyes and go, how

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<v Speaker 4>does it play now? And truthfully it bothered me a little,

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<v Speaker 4>but what was happening cut through it well enough. The

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<v Speaker 4>emotion cut through well enough that I went, that's what's important,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's what I'm in an audience is hopefully connecting

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<v Speaker 4>to and not the location. So watching it with fresh eyes,

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<v Speaker 4>I was I was happy to see that, Like, there

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<v Speaker 4>was emotion and there was something meaningful there and that

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<v Speaker 4>was what took center stage over the beauty.

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<v Speaker 3>And having because I didn't know you guys had an

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<v Speaker 3>issue with that. So I was truly watching this with

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<v Speaker 3>fresh eyes. I didn't bump at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Good, Yeah, that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys did a great job. I wasn't paying, to

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<v Speaker 3>be honest with you, I maybe noticed the church and

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<v Speaker 3>the master, and then after that I was I was

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<v Speaker 3>along for the rider. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and something else that I think helps. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, you and I collaborating creatively on the

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<v Speaker 1>language I thought was so important because there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things that you say that Julian says that Brooke then echoes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the kind of call and response to two people

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<v Speaker 1>who've been through a lot together who are on this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of shared road. Now. I liked that we personalized

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<v Speaker 1>it and didn't just do the repeat after me. I Brooke,

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<v Speaker 1>take you Julian like womp womp, and the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that played so well about it for me, given that

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get to do the sort of exterior nighttime,

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<v Speaker 1>beautifully lit you know, fairy tale thing was the montage

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<v Speaker 1>that you referenced, because the whole walk down the aisle

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<v Speaker 1>to marry me, you actually get to see all those things.

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<v Speaker 1>You see us on the scooter and with the lights,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know all the adventures these two have had together.

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<v Speaker 1>So the room just kind of being a box still

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<v Speaker 1>felt bigger because they used that device, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was really smart.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if if had all of those things that

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<v Speaker 3>worked as well as they did, there would have been

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<v Speaker 3>and more room to pay attention to the setting. But

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, I didn't notice it.

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<v Speaker 4>There was so much emotion in this episode, like with

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<v Speaker 4>with you and Joy yeah, Brooke and Haley with Victoria, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Jamie in the beginning is so cute, and then some

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<v Speaker 4>one knocks it out of the park in this episode,

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<v Speaker 4>like he wanted funny and so good in this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>It made me giggle watching it now so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna cherry pick a little bit here. I

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<v Speaker 3>like this one. This is a little uh kind of

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<v Speaker 3>go back in time perhaps, who do you wish Julian

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<v Speaker 3>would have picked as his best man. This is assuming

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<v Speaker 3>I guess let's just say Jamie's not available. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>that you don't like Jamie, but let's say he was

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<v Speaker 3>unavailable that day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet a prior. Yeah, great question. You know, the whole

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:56.399
<v Speaker 4>thing was weird to me because this joke of like

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.879
<v Speaker 4>Julian not having guy friends was which was funny and

0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 4>it worked. I'm trying to think back to like, was

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<v Speaker 4>there ever anybody that Julian got close with?

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 5>There was a guy?

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<v Speaker 3>I wish that you and I would have had more stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>because yes, we were the two quirky, kind of offbeat guys,

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.080
<v Speaker 3>and I just feel like I could have had such

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<v Speaker 3>a cool, fun nerdy bro thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I pick you, Hey, yes, hold on, hold on,

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 4>hold on, Clay. Yeah, I know we haven't talked in

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<v Speaker 4>a while, but like back, you know, I always liked

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:34.800
<v Speaker 4>you and I thought we had, you know, like a

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 4>great connection, and it's happening. I I don't know, I

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 4>just feel like we're kind of on the same page

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<v Speaker 4>with a lot of things, and I really, I really

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<v Speaker 4>would you consider being my best.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'll marry you. Oh oh your best man? Yeah? Yeah,

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 3>I'd love to be your best man totally.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, a thousand times. Yes, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>This is great because I've written so much fan fiction

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 3>about this that now it finally is going to pay off.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. Okay, wait, if we're going to cherry

0:24:59.200 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 1>pick something, cherry pick Wait. This is a really fun

0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.159
<v Speaker 1>one because it jumps around in our shows and I

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>like this alternate reality stuff. Who would you take? I

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 1>think it needs to be a character. Who would you

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<v Speaker 1>take from One Tree Hill into The Walking Dead? And why?

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know, actually it's funny because like Hillary went on, Yeah,

0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:23.479
<v Speaker 4>Floris was on, there were some other people that were

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<v Speaker 4>on one Trio that were in The Walking Dead too

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 4>lead to.

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<v Speaker 3>The Walking Dead. Yeah that's awesome.

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, who would I take from one trio? Well? Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so I would answer it as like a survival ant,

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<v Speaker 4>like who who would be the most like hmm my

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:42.800
<v Speaker 4>gut reaction is James Lafford. It is Nathan because he's

0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 4>an athlete and he's strong, and he's big, and he's

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 4>he's lead. He's a leader. He's humble. People will follow him,

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 4>not like greedy and power corrupt Nathan is such an

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 4>honorable man. He would be such a great leader in

0:25:58.720 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 4>the zombie Apocalypse.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, yeah, my knee jerk was Dan, But

0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 3>then I immediately shot that down because Dan would stab

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<v Speaker 3>you in the back of.

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<v Speaker 4>The well, and that in that world would probably be

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<v Speaker 4>really good for a while until hes you in the back.

0:26:12.200 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Till he ruins your life. Okay, and this is a

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>related question. Another person asked, do you think Julian would

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<v Speaker 1>have lasted longer than Spencer in The Walking Dead?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it's so funny because both of these characters were not,

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<v Speaker 4>uh what, neither of them would do well in the

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 4>Zombie Apocalypse. So I would have to say it's a

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 4>it's a tie, like they both would do equally horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Julian be like, case, should we have a play? Can

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 4>we stage a play?

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<v Speaker 1>People need to be entertained, you know, we should? We

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>should entertain them?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>What or your thoughts on the whole high five gate

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<v Speaker 3>with Julian?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I may have said this before, and forgive me

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 4>if I'm being repetitive, but it's one of those things

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 4>that you hate in the moment and you feel like

0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 4>you're such an idiot and you feel like you're being

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 4>taken advantage of and you're being made fun of. Then

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 4>you find out years later that it's one of the

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 4>most remembered moments that fans love and they ask for

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:32.439
<v Speaker 4>a high five in person. It's still kind of embarrassing

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 4>when it happens, but it's also sweet that people remember

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:41.439
<v Speaker 4>something and it makes them laugh. Yeah, so I was.

0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 4>I've always been. It's always been a tug of war

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 4>of like, god, that was so dumb, but oh my god,

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:50.159
<v Speaker 4>it's like it caught on. And sometimes I say this

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 4>a lot. I've said this when I'm directing now, when

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 4>I say to actors when they'd feel weird about something,

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 4>I go, sometimes the cheesiest stupid stuff is the is

0:27:57.800 --> 0:27:58.479
<v Speaker 4>the best stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this came up recently. I'm trying to think Rob,

0:28:03.119 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you might remember who was on with us.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Was it?

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.479
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if it was Steven or someone. Somebody

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>had joined us for an episode and we were talking

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>about some of that like embarrassing whatever that they gave

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>to Julian, and whoever was with us was like, yeah, man,

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>this idea that they wanted to, you know, emasculate the

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>swaggy movie director from La backfired so hard because Austin

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 1>is so frickin likable and so charming and committed with

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>his whole chest. So he doesn't look silly, he looks

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 1>fucking adorable.

0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 3>That's me. Yeah, it was just me. Every time we talked, Yeah,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 3>every time we talk about you, buddy, I always said,

0:28:51.120 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, to me, it's it is the best thing

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>because it was. Listen, I agree. I think everything you

0:28:56.920 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 3>felt in the moment to me is accurate. Like you

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 3>were kind of being taken advantage of. You were definitely

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 3>being made fun of. It was an attempt to masculate you,

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 3>but because you played it so earnestly and you leaned in,

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 3>it completely backfired. And the thing that's funny is had

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 3>they given you cool guy leading man lines, I still

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 3>do not think Julian would have ended up as lovable

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 3>as he did from you turning their crap into gold.

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 4>Thank you. That's I mean, I don't even know what

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 4>to say.

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 3>That's so it's just a testament to like how likable

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:33.840
<v Speaker 3>you are. Like I say this all the time, Like

0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 3>you are infinitely likable as Julian, thank you, And so

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 3>it's so funny to me, that's like all of these attempts,

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Wow, what what you were hoping to undermined?

0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 3>You inadvertently built up?

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>And the willingness to commit to a story like no

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>matter where it's going to go is it's kind of

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>our job. But I think, especially as young actors, it

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>can be hard. You don't want to feel stupid, you

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>don't want to you don't necessarily want to be the

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>butt of a joke. And then I think you get

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 1>older and you're like, oh my god, it's the best

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>thing to be the joke in the scene. Yeah, but yeah,

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>watching it back, we are always just like, God, he's

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>so charming. It doesn't matter what you It doesn't matter

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 1>what you do or what they gave you. Like, you

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 1>just crushed it.

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 4>Man.

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So anytime you're having a bad day, you just FaceTime

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>me and Rob and we will tell you you're perfect.

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 3>I worked with this director one time, and I remember

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 3>there was some issues with the script or something, and

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 3>she said to me, she went, I'll get my revenge.

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:40.200
<v Speaker 3>I'll shoot their script. And I love that, And to me,

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of like what you did. You were like, Okay,

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually not going to try to make this cool

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 3>at all. I'm going to do it exactly as written

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 3>and how to turn out, it was not emasculating. It

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:52.720
<v Speaker 3>was wildly endearing.

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:53.640
<v Speaker 4>That's interesting.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Wow, yeah, it was great. Okay. I actually think this

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>transitions into this next question really well, because you're obviously

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>reflecting on this character that you built. What do you

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 1>think you share with Julian? What similarities do you have

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>to that character?

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 5>You know?

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 4>I was actually I was doing a little jog this

0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 4>morning and I was thinking about this while I was jogging.

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 4>This is kind of an answer, it's not exactly the answer.

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 4>But when I was a young actor, I wanted to

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 4>act and I wanted to play characters, and I wanted

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.680
<v Speaker 4>to like change everything and we're wigs and just be

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:36.520
<v Speaker 4>different and not be me and like always just transform.

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 4>That was what I thought was interesting. And I remember

0:31:39.200 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 4>when I got the call to do Montree Hill, I

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 4>had to get on a plane and go to Wilmington

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 4>so fast. I was like, there's no time to create

0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 4>a character. And I remember saying to myself for the

0:31:49.120 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 4>first time, I said, I'm just gonna be myself and

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 4>this will be an experiment to see what happens and

0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 4>lo and behold It was the first time that I

0:31:59.840 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 4>had an audience really connect with me. And I don't

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 4>know if that you know, really answers that question, but

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 4>it was such such a big lesson because I actors

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 4>want to act and they actually need we need directors,

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 4>we need other people to help us. Because sometimes the

0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 4>difference between an actor who thinks they're doing something really good,

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 4>but then somebody steps in and says, all I need

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 4>you to do is just like not kind of be

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 4>so excited. And if you just if you just actually

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 4>just use your voice instead of like you're you're dropping

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 4>into this like voice, you know, if you just actually

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:45.920
<v Speaker 4>just talk like you right now, I'm going.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 3>To cry less, Batman more, Bruce Wayne, thank you, thank you.

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And I learned that on One Tree Hill. I

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 4>learned that playing Julian because I committed to just being

0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 4>Austin in that role. And look, you know, the question

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.480
<v Speaker 4>is what's similar. I mean, certainly there are things that

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 4>are different one hundred percent, but the overall the from

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 4>forty thousand feet it was like, I'm going to go

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 4>to work and speak from my heart every day.

0:33:14.680 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it comes across. I mean knowing you personally, I

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 3>think like isn't that what we do? I mean, I

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 3>don't know. Some people have like big old methods. I

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.120
<v Speaker 3>bring a lot of rob to everything I do, like

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 3>where it's applicable one hundred percent.

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 4>And that's why you're so good and why people connect.

0:33:30.440 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 4>It's all about connection. Yeah, and when people I see

0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 4>this so much now, when someone is trying trying to

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 4>do something, there immediately is a barrier between the audience

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 4>and them. And that's why you always it's so annoying

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 4>because I was always an actor who was trying to

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 4>do something and that director was always like less less less, No, no,

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 4>don't do that, less less less less less. Yeah, And

0:33:56.560 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 4>it took me so many years to understand what that

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.760
<v Speaker 4>meant because nobody ever said the audience isn't going to

0:34:03.800 --> 0:34:07.600
<v Speaker 4>connect with you. No one ever said that, right, Yeah,

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 4>they just said, don't do that.

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 5>Do us.

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 3>That's a great Josh Brolin story where I guess he

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 3>was a big like process actor when he was doing

0:34:15.080 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 3>Goonies when he was very y saw this and I

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 3>guess he was like taught like it was when they

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 3>were like going through a cave, and I guess he

0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 3>went up to is it, George?

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 4>Was it Spielberg.

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. He went to Spielberg and was like, so is

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 3>the cave, like, is it like a metaphor for like,

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 3>am are we coming out of the womb? And Spielberg

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 3>is basically like, how about you're a kid walking through

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 3>a tunnel and say you're line and say your line?

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So genius a perfect example.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.920
<v Speaker 1>Perfect, It is a perfect example. And I have to

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>and this is perfect because we are talking about movie making.

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you we got great questions from

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the fans for you and I were barely scratching the surface.

0:34:56.320 --> 0:35:00.359
<v Speaker 1>But one of the questions we got the most, the

0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>most was that they are so desperate for details on

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>an early filmic project of yours, Holiday in the Sun.

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 1>They want to know what it was like working with

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 1>the Olsen twins, and more than twenty people asked if

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>you were nervous to kiss Ashley and I feel like

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>we've got to give the fans what they.

0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:23.879
<v Speaker 4>Want, you know, happy to I learned pretty quickly when

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 4>I was in One Tree Hill that there was a

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 4>similar audience from those movies yeah Nashally movies to One

0:35:30.000 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 4>Tree Hill, and there was a lot of overlap there.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 4>So people say stuff a lot I was definitely nervous

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:42.399
<v Speaker 4>because Mary Kate was fifteen and I was I think

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen or nineteen or maybe even twenty, I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was old and it felt weird and it

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<v Speaker 4>felt wrong, and you know, I looked very young. So

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<v Speaker 4>watching the movie, I don't think you noticed. I'm real

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<v Speaker 4>tall and skinny and like nerdy, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>you can tell there's a big age difference. But from

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<v Speaker 4>my brain, I was like, she's fifteen, this is not

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<v Speaker 4>this is weird. So I remember talking to you producers,

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<v Speaker 4>and I remember talking to even her dad was there,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just wanted everybody to like. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>is this okay with you guys? Like, and they were

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<v Speaker 4>all like, oh, don't worry about it. Nobody was, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody seemed concerned, and I was very concerned. But it

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<v Speaker 4>turned out fine. It was all very g rated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I think that really speaks to your character though,

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<v Speaker 1>because listen, they'd been acting since they were little. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like a fifteen year old girl was going to

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<v Speaker 1>have her first kiss ever, you know, with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>five years older than her. But the fact that as

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<v Speaker 1>the older actor in the room, you were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how are we going to address this, because yes, this

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<v Speaker 1>is our job, but also we got to acknowledge what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening here.

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<v Speaker 4>I and I they're children.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I really just like I respect that.

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<v Speaker 4>About you so much, Thank you, thank you. It was

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<v Speaker 4>in a way, it's one of those things. It's similar

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<v Speaker 4>to the high five moment where when you're young and

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<v Speaker 4>you're trying to make your career as an actor and

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<v Speaker 4>do all these cool projects and you have this one

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<v Speaker 4>that you feel is maybe a little silly, And I

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<v Speaker 4>had to give that up years ago because people love it.

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<v Speaker 4>And I had to put away my crap and my

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<v Speaker 4>all my junk in my head and go, people like

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<v Speaker 4>this thing, And why am I being a jerk about it?

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's only it's only paid me back a million

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<v Speaker 4>times with love. Like So that's another lesson I've learned from,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, doing what we do is you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>it's the same thing. Sometimes those things that you don't

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<v Speaker 4>think maybe aren't like super cool or hip, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people love them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you heard it from Austin Nichols. Sometimes the

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<v Speaker 3>cheesy stuff is the best stuff, that's right, Austin, You're

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<v Speaker 3>one of my favorite people I don't get to see regularly,

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<v Speaker 3>So thank you for making the time.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, thanks guys. I miss you guys, and I know.

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<v Speaker 1>We missed you in Wilmington.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I miss you guys too. I saw pictures

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<v Speaker 4>and I was really sad. But there'll be another and

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<v Speaker 4>there will be another other again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you got to go take that movie to

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<v Speaker 1>a festival. I can't wait. Where can people follow that, Austin?

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<v Speaker 1>Where can they get info on the movie?

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<v Speaker 4>So I would I would look at follow my Instagram

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<v Speaker 4>Austin Nichols for now until we get closer to like

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<v Speaker 4>a sale and a release. Okay, it doesn't have its

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<v Speaker 4>own social media yet. Yeah, you know buyers, sales agents

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<v Speaker 4>and buyers distributors. They get weird when you do too

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<v Speaker 4>much early totally, so we got to kind of wait.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, yeah, and I'll put it out there on

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<v Speaker 4>my Instagram.

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