Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.
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Speaker 1: none other than our very own Austin Nichols. Should we
Speaker 1: bring him in here? Hey buddy, Hi buddy, Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the show.
Speaker 3: Pal.
Speaker 1: Are you Are you at home in Texas at the moment?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm in Austin and it's gorgeous. It's a beautiful
Speaker 4: day in Paradise. It's spring and it's not hot yet
Speaker 4: and it's green. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's so fun. Are you, like, are
Speaker 1: you doing stuff on the lake? What's keeping you busy?
Speaker 4: Yep, I've been out on the water getting ready. I'm
Speaker 4: going to Peru to do this surf trip that I've
Speaker 4: wanted to do, like for twenty years, going and I'm
Speaker 4: finally finally going. It's this wave that's like three kilometers long.
Speaker 4: It's just this thing I've always wanted to do. And
Speaker 4: I finally said, what am I waiting for?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So is the idea that you you ride the wave
Speaker 3: for three kilometers? Is that the goal or the whole?
Speaker 4: Well, you don't have to, I mean, I think that's
Speaker 4: part of the attraction to me. Is to do something,
Speaker 4: is to catch something, catch lightning in a bottle, something
Speaker 4: that's unattainable and natural in the in the world, in nature,
Speaker 4: and harness it for as long as you can without
Speaker 4: having to have a machine.
Speaker 3: So is the goal? Then? Is this like an operation
Speaker 3: where you and at least one other buddy, you like,
Speaker 3: park a car down approximately where the wave ends, and
Speaker 3: then you drive back up to the top.
Speaker 4: Well, I've done something like that, but this is better
Speaker 4: because there's a booat and there's actually going to be
Speaker 4: drones and cameras, and it's there's eight people and basically
Speaker 4: we just tow each other into the wave and then
Speaker 4: you try to ride it all the way in and
Speaker 4: then you get picked up in the boat and you
Speaker 4: go back out.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so cool. Is this what I saw? I
Speaker 3: sawn your Instagram? You were doing wall sits.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get my legs strong because the thing
Speaker 4: I'm doing, like you're up for so long that your
Speaker 4: your quad's just just get out.
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, Oh cool.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to know. I mean, obviously you are,
Speaker 1: You're a very prepared person and you're an athlete, but
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to hear you talk about the fact
Speaker 1: that you are training for this. I did a dumb,
Speaker 1: cocky thing that really reads a theater kid who knows
Speaker 1: nothing about her body. A couple of years ago. I
Speaker 1: was like, ski season, didn't get to go last year,
Speaker 1: Let's hit it and went up a mountain I've skied
Speaker 1: a hundred times, not having skied in essentially two years
Speaker 1: because I'd skipped a season, hadn't been in the gym,
Speaker 1: hadn't done shit like all three Thanksgiving over the holidays,
Speaker 1: And halfway down my first run, I was like, my
Speaker 1: squads are going to explode. I'm gonna die. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I want to die on this mountain just because I
Speaker 1: forgot that I needed to, like, I don't know, do
Speaker 1: some squats before I tried to do this again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very humbling and deeply embarrassing for me.
Speaker 3: I committed the same party foul. I was asked to
Speaker 3: go on this. It was sort of like an interview show,
Speaker 3: but the whole thing was like you taught you do
Speaker 3: the interview on the chair lift, and then you snowboarder
Speaker 3: ski all the way down the mountain. I was like,
Speaker 3: I was like, can you snow where? I'm like, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I snowboarded in high school. Mind you. I snow word
Speaker 3: like four times in high school. And when we shot this,
Speaker 3: I was thirty five years old. It didn't occur to
Speaker 3: me until I was getting off the lift that I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, farts, I haven't done this in like
Speaker 3: eighteen years, And like you, I paid the price.
Speaker 4: It probably made a bunch much better show.
Speaker 3: It did. The falls were more dramatic, sure, just the flailing.
Speaker 3: The language was more colorful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so cool. Basically, what we've learned so far today
Speaker 1: is that Austin will be the one on the wave,
Speaker 1: and Rob and I would likely be the friends on
Speaker 1: the beach with the beers waiting for you, and you're.
Speaker 3: Dad, dude, I'll be holding that big towel for you
Speaker 3: with a chair roh or a corn dog, whatever you're into.
Speaker 4: I want to be there too.
Speaker 1: Great. We love it well.
Speaker 3: We asked fans for questions and they did not disappoint.
Speaker 3: So if you'll allow it, how about we just jump
Speaker 3: right in.
Speaker 4: Let's jump in.
Speaker 3: Okay, First one, what did you steal from set? If anything?
Speaker 4: A fake Eames chair? Well we did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we put that thing right in the back of
Speaker 1: my audie that rob ed Hardy bombed one time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so in last season, like I think, so if
Speaker 4: you tell me if I'm wrong, But it was maybe
Speaker 4: like there was maybe two one or two shooting days left. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and we knew that the Brooks House was getting wrapped. Yep,
Speaker 4: we've done shooting in there, and we were like, we
Speaker 4: got to get that chair. Those chairs are so expensive
Speaker 4: and the like I wouldn't never pay for one.
Speaker 3: No wait, so who got the chair? You stole it together?
Speaker 3: But who got the loot?
Speaker 4: I think I carried it? Did I carry it? And
Speaker 4: we put it Who's truck?
Speaker 1: We put it in the back of my car in
Speaker 1: the little hatchback station wagon. I don't know how we
Speaker 1: even got it in there, but we made it work.
Speaker 4: That was a good some good fever.
Speaker 1: It was fun and it's nice to be like a
Speaker 1: gentle thief and feel like you're in a buddy cop
Speaker 1: movie because the two of us were like running and
Speaker 1: then hiding behind a wall and then running, and then
Speaker 1: Austin would be like, I'll go duck, and you know,
Speaker 1: we like made it all the way through the stages
Speaker 1: with these two pieces of furniture, the chair and the ottoman,
Speaker 1: and by the time we got in the car, I
Speaker 1: was like, well, that's going to be my favorite part
Speaker 1: of this whole thing, just the caper of it.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was the adventure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, made a little documentary. I think I definitely got
Speaker 4: clothes over the years. But that's kind of that's so
Speaker 4: that's sort of normal. What about you did, Rob? Did
Speaker 4: you steal anything? Man?
Speaker 3: Same as you. I close. But then the only I
Speaker 3: could think of was I still have to this day
Speaker 3: some Fortitude cards Clay Clay's business card, So talk about
Speaker 3: being a gentle thief. While you guys were stealing large
Speaker 3: pieces of designer furniture, knockoff, knock off, I was stealing
Speaker 3: about five or six business cards.
Speaker 4: Hilarious.
Speaker 1: I love that I still have business cards from Good Sam.
Speaker 1: So I have these business cards that say I'm a
Speaker 1: cardiothoracic surgeony make me feel very smart.
Speaker 3: So if I would ask you what you stole from set?
Speaker 3: But I know you have a storage unit full of
Speaker 3: multiple boxes of things from the show, so you don't
Speaker 3: have the time for that, do we No.
Speaker 1: I probably have like four plastic bins of stuff from
Speaker 1: over the years. But honestly, the funniest thing is we
Speaker 1: we capered a chair and an automan together. And the
Speaker 1: most like large stuff I've quote stole from set I
Speaker 1: stole for Hillary, like I took her. I took this big,
Speaker 1: beautiful like maroon silk lamp shade with tassels and the
Speaker 1: standing lamp, and then this really cool like I think
Speaker 1: they called them telephone tables, a chair with like a
Speaker 1: little attached side table from the fifties that your phone
Speaker 1: would sit on. Uh, And they were from Red Bedroom Records.
Speaker 1: And when we wrapped out the sets, obviously she wasn't
Speaker 1: with us, and I was like, this is bullshit, I'm
Speaker 1: taking her stuff, and so I had to. I had
Speaker 1: to get the chair and automan out of the tiny
Speaker 1: station wagon to then go back and lift the rest
Speaker 1: of the stuff for her.
Speaker 3: Nice you did some damage, Sofia I did well done.
Speaker 1: But listen, I own it. Here. We are that's the
Speaker 1: same here.
Speaker 3: It's also funny that the idea that you guys even
Speaker 3: were trying to be sneaky about it, because no one
Speaker 3: would have said boo.
Speaker 4: But you don't feel like that in the moment you
Speaker 4: feel like you're gonna get busted. Yeah, sure, totally.
Speaker 3: But you're right.
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody would have said no.
Speaker 3: The crew liked you. Wait, I mean, come on, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know you guys would have been fine.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: Did you know from the beginning that Brooke was going
Speaker 3: to be your endgame?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: I think I kind of did, but I'm trying to
Speaker 4: remember how things went down. It was like, you're gonna
Speaker 4: we're gonna explore the past with Peyton, and then you're
Speaker 4: gonna be Brooks new love interest and then yeah, I kinda,
Speaker 4: but I didn't know it was gonna go four seasons
Speaker 4: and end in marriage and kids. I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we really could have, you know,
Speaker 1: especially because when you came in season six, we didn't
Speaker 1: really know what was going to happen with the show,
Speaker 1: and then we wound up getting the seven and eight
Speaker 1: pick up together, which had never happened before, and to
Speaker 1: get two seasons picked up at the same time is
Speaker 1: so surreal. So yeah, I guess I wonder if maybe
Speaker 1: the reason by the middle of season eight they had
Speaker 1: the characters get married was because everybody thought we were
Speaker 1: going to be done at the end of eight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we weren't sure about doing nine. Remember, I think
Speaker 4: we weren't sure.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I remember they came to the cast and
Speaker 3: were like, Hi, how would you guys feel about a nine?
Speaker 3: And people were like, how about half a season? Yeah,
Speaker 3: And so I think that's why we did the truncated thirteen, right.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what I remember, And I was really
Speaker 1: proud of us all, like we grew up on the show,
Speaker 1: you know, especially those of us who had been there
Speaker 1: since we were twenty one. I remember just not knowing
Speaker 1: anything about the business, and by the time they came
Speaker 1: to all of us to be like, Okay, if you're
Speaker 1: all into a season nine, let's talk about it. What
Speaker 1: I loved And I have this memory of all of
Speaker 1: us being like, it feels cool. We don't feel like
Speaker 1: we're ready to be done done, but we also know
Speaker 1: we're all going to need to get jobs after this,
Speaker 1: So how about we wrapp by the end of December
Speaker 1: so we can have the next pilot season free. And
Speaker 1: then it was like it was like summer camp, because
Speaker 1: you're never going to book a show between July and December,
Speaker 1: at least in the traditional network world. And so we
Speaker 1: were like, wait, we get to go do thirteen more
Speaker 1: episodes and dink around with our friends and then like,
Speaker 1: I guess we all start auditioning again. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what a time. But I like that we had that foresight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3: I had never seen and we'll get into the we're
Speaker 3: going to talk about this on the episode recap as well.
Speaker 3: But I had never seen your guys of stuff from
Speaker 3: season six. I had only I knew of it from
Speaker 3: listening to the podcast before I joined. So it was
Speaker 3: so fun. And the flashback montage, yeah, of Julian and Brooke.
Speaker 3: It was so cool because like Austin, I knew your
Speaker 3: hair got cut too high on the back when you
Speaker 3: got there, and so as I was watching, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 3: there is the actual haircut he was talking about, and like,
Speaker 3: here's the edge you're Julian, And it was it was
Speaker 3: so fun to watch.
Speaker 4: That yeah, I agree. That montage made me emotional because
Speaker 4: you see all these iconic moments, like the one that
Speaker 4: that it gets me is when. So if you help me,
Speaker 4: remember it was that outside the USO concert when I
Speaker 4: first got there. No, no, when was this? It was
Speaker 4: when you said I'm finally ready to let someone in.
Speaker 1: I think that's when. Isn't that when Brooke goes to
Speaker 1: see Julian on his movie set.
Speaker 4: That sounds right because it's all lit and it looks.
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, it looks that's what it is.
Speaker 4: That's my favorite moments me too.
Speaker 1: Catching up, somebody wants to know what does a day
Speaker 1: in the life of Austin look like? And if I may,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to add to that because you
Speaker 1: have just completed this movie that you have been working
Speaker 1: on for so long that you're so excited about, and
Speaker 1: I know you're about to open a film festival in
Speaker 1: Dallas with the Salamander King, So I I want you
Speaker 1: to talk to the fans about what a day in
Speaker 1: the life of making this movie has looked like for you.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Okay, yes, I'm so excited and proud
Speaker 4: it's finally finished and we're going to Dallas at the
Speaker 4: end of April. It's so good to like finish something
Speaker 4: and you know, see it all the way through from
Speaker 4: beginning to end. But you know, there was three years
Speaker 4: of just talking and sending people a pitch or a
Speaker 4: script or just get a phone call her a zoom,
Speaker 4: and nothing happens. And about a year and a half ago,
Speaker 4: I guess, Jennifer, my producer, came on, Jennifer Kuchai and
Speaker 4: she that was the moment where the ball started rolling,
Speaker 4: and so thankful to her. And we raised the money
Speaker 4: pretty quickly for a small indie, and we shot it
Speaker 4: in Austin in last June, and post took me all
Speaker 4: the way to I guess about a month ago when
Speaker 4: I finished the sound mix and we're in a festival
Speaker 4: and like that feels it's a year sounds or just
Speaker 4: under a year sounds slow, but it was fast. Like
Speaker 4: I can't believe we're already done, and you know, in
Speaker 4: a festival and now we're looking to you know, go
Speaker 4: sell it to buyers, and I you know, I'm kind
Speaker 4: of rambling here, but I just I've never felt this
Speaker 4: feeling of sort of pride in completing something and just
Speaker 4: starting and completing something that feels just so hard. It's
Speaker 4: like the Sissifian task of rolling, you know, the boulder
Speaker 4: up the mountain and yes, man, and then I just
Speaker 4: can't wait to do it again.
Speaker 1: I just can't wait, oh, buddy.
Speaker 3: And so often what we do is that we're either
Speaker 3: joining something halfway in or we're just doing the starting
Speaker 3: stuff and then handing off to someone else. So it's
Speaker 3: so cool that, I mean, you saw this thing through
Speaker 3: from inception to premiere, Like, that's awesome. That is a
Speaker 3: huge accomplishment. Man, you should be proud of yourself.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy. And had so many great people. By
Speaker 4: the way, Peter Kowalski was my DP, oh lucky, our
Speaker 4: DP on One Tree Hill. For some of you may
Speaker 4: not know his name, but he was such an important
Speaker 4: part of One Tree Hill. And I was so lucky
Speaker 4: to have such a crack team because Peter was working
Speaker 4: on a TV show in Austin and I went and
Speaker 4: directed that and then I got all that crew to
Speaker 4: come and they'd been working together for four years. So
Speaker 4: I just had this team that was just so dialed
Speaker 4: into each other. Yeah, that was that was part of
Speaker 4: why you ran so smoothly. We didn't have problems. Every
Speaker 4: day was everyone just laughing and having fun. And I
Speaker 4: never thought I would my first movie would be a comedy.
Speaker 4: Never I'm going to make some dark, indie, crazy.
Speaker 1: Darling deep bartsy thing.
Speaker 4: And the first thing I makes a comedy, and I
Speaker 4: just want to keep making comedies now. It was just
Speaker 4: so fun and it's funny the way life happens to
Speaker 4: you in that way, and you something you didn't expect
Speaker 4: becomes maybe your next you know path. But to get
Speaker 4: Leaven a little bit more specific about.
Speaker 1: Like my day, I mean, yeah, what does a day
Speaker 1: look like as a director?
Speaker 3: Love?
Speaker 4: I love to I wake up early. I love to
Speaker 4: have some coffee. Sometimes I'll go to the coffee shop
Speaker 4: on South Congress and have a little social time with
Speaker 4: some local Austin coffee stop. Not the I call myself
Speaker 4: a coffee slut, but these local coffee connoisseurs. There's this
Speaker 4: little group and we gather and drink and talk in
Speaker 4: the morning early and then I go home. And I
Speaker 4: don't do this every day, but I like to exercise
Speaker 4: in the morning if I can, and then I get
Speaker 4: into writing and I'll sit down and I'll write for
Speaker 4: a while. And then writing is weird because the schedule,
Speaker 4: like everyone's writing habits are different. I like to write
Speaker 4: in the morning, get some done, and I like to
Speaker 4: move and walk or do something, take a break, have lunch,
Speaker 4: get out, get away from it, and then come back
Speaker 4: to it later, whether that's in the afternoon or at night,
Speaker 4: and that helps. I don't know, there's something about like
Speaker 4: flow state, and like, I don't know how it all works,
Speaker 4: but getting the blood pumping and stepping away and then
Speaker 4: coming back is really helpful. If I can't write all day,
Speaker 4: it just for sure crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that totally tracks. I was talking through something with
Speaker 1: my therapist about just like, you know, when what are
Speaker 1: tools for resilience when time is so jammed like March
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I felt like I was working twenty
Speaker 1: four hours a day, just like meeting to meeting to
Speaker 1: meeting to meeting, and it was making me feel nuts.
Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm telling you, I want you
Speaker 1: to start setting thirty minute timers and if you have
Speaker 1: to be on a zoom or in a thing for
Speaker 1: an hour, set a timer for an hour and then
Speaker 1: just go on a walk for five minutes and then
Speaker 1: you can come back. And I started just trying to
Speaker 1: reclaim minutes in certain spaces and like, I feel you
Speaker 1: when you say that helps your flow state. It felt
Speaker 1: like it brought me back down to earth, Like I
Speaker 1: was so high strung from the stress and then it
Speaker 1: like just five minutes here and there and I got
Speaker 1: right back into my body and was like whoa.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the one thing I also discovered by accident
Speaker 4: was the little coffee group friend thing in the morning,
Speaker 4: saytates my community societal thing, and I don't have FOMO
Speaker 4: the rest of the day. M So if I can
Speaker 4: be social talk to some people for a little while,
Speaker 4: then I can go focus and I'm not like wondering
Speaker 4: what everyone else is doing.
Speaker 3: That's brains out, like let's check let's check Instagram for
Speaker 3: a false sense of community.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Well it's funny. It's like I remember someone just saying,
Speaker 3: like go touch grass, and it was that same thing
Speaker 3: where it's like just go outside, yeah, get away from screens,
Speaker 3: go out, take your shoes and socks off, walk around
Speaker 3: in the lawn for a little bit, and it's like
Speaker 3: it's the truth. Though. Man, it is such a good reset,
Speaker 3: all right, So another question here, says uh. Sophia said
Speaker 3: she rewrote her wedding vows herself. Did you rewrite or
Speaker 3: punch up Julian's.
Speaker 1: I did come on Austin's laughing because mine were trash
Speaker 1: like what we saw in the script. We both were like,
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding. Made Brook Davis wait eight seasons
Speaker 1: for this and the fans are so amped and like
Speaker 1: we're doing call and repeat with like the traditional vows.
Speaker 1: Everybody does know, and so I had to and I
Speaker 1: had to open with a joke because it felt right
Speaker 1: for her.
Speaker 4: Well, I thought you did a great job, but it
Speaker 4: was it was really well well done, and glad you
Speaker 4: fought for that, you know, I think, you know, I don't.
Speaker 4: There's no there's no blame or throwing any into the
Speaker 4: throwing anybody under the bus. But we thought that maybe
Speaker 4: the church was weird, the location was. We wanted to
Speaker 4: do something outside with lights and like trees and you know,
Speaker 4: something a little more magical, you know, with you know
Speaker 4: how it is with shooting, like it's expensive and locations
Speaker 4: and money, and you get to season eight and people
Speaker 4: are not as don't have the energy they had and
Speaker 4: like that happens, and you know, that was my one
Speaker 4: thing was really the location. Yeah, kind I kind of
Speaker 4: wanted something a little more magical. I guess I.
Speaker 1: Think we wanted it to feel like that scene you
Speaker 1: brought up from the montage, like when Brooke and Julian
Speaker 1: meet on that soundstage and it looks like they're in
Speaker 1: the park and then all the lights go on, Like
Speaker 1: we wanted that for the wedding, and then we got,
Speaker 1: you know, no shade, but like we got brown wood walls,
Speaker 1: and we were like, oh, no.
Speaker 3: Liking shade. It's fair because also before you lost the company,
Speaker 3: Before Brook lost the company, you guys were at this
Speaker 3: stupidly palatial estate with like a never ending fucking go
Speaker 3: what do you call that? A garden maze? So it
Speaker 3: is a little weird that you guys went from that
Speaker 3: to being like a church.
Speaker 4: No, they would have spent some money. Brooke wants the
Speaker 4: dreamy wedding. And you know, I will say this because
Speaker 4: I was watching it going and watching it knowing that
Speaker 4: and how we felt about it then, and I was
Speaker 4: going to watch it with fresh eyes and go, how
Speaker 4: does it play now? And truthfully it bothered me a little,
Speaker 4: but what was happening cut through it well enough. The
Speaker 4: emotion cut through well enough that I went, that's what's important,
Speaker 4: and that's what I'm in an audience is hopefully connecting
Speaker 4: to and not the location. So watching it with fresh eyes,
Speaker 4: I was I was happy to see that, Like, there
Speaker 4: was emotion and there was something meaningful there and that
Speaker 4: was what took center stage over the beauty.
Speaker 3: And having because I didn't know you guys had an
Speaker 3: issue with that. So I was truly watching this with
Speaker 3: fresh eyes. I didn't bump at all.
Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3: You guys did a great job. I wasn't paying, to
Speaker 3: be honest with you, I maybe noticed the church and
Speaker 3: the master, and then after that I was I was
Speaker 3: along for the rider. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and something else that I think helps. I mean,
Speaker 1: first of all, you and I collaborating creatively on the
Speaker 1: language I thought was so important because there's you know,
Speaker 1: things that you say that Julian says that Brooke then echoes,
Speaker 1: and the kind of call and response to two people
Speaker 1: who've been through a lot together who are on this
Speaker 1: sort of shared road. Now. I liked that we personalized
Speaker 1: it and didn't just do the repeat after me. I Brooke,
Speaker 1: take you Julian like womp womp, and the other thing
Speaker 1: that played so well about it for me, given that
Speaker 1: we didn't get to do the sort of exterior nighttime,
Speaker 1: beautifully lit you know, fairy tale thing was the montage
Speaker 1: that you referenced, because the whole walk down the aisle
Speaker 1: to marry me, you actually get to see all those things.
Speaker 1: You see us on the scooter and with the lights,
Speaker 1: and you know all the adventures these two have had together.
Speaker 1: So the room just kind of being a box still
Speaker 1: felt bigger because they used that device, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was really smart.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think if if had all of those things that
Speaker 3: worked as well as they did, there would have been
Speaker 3: and more room to pay attention to the setting. But
Speaker 3: like I said, I didn't notice it.
Speaker 4: There was so much emotion in this episode, like with
Speaker 4: with you and Joy yeah, Brooke and Haley with Victoria, yeah,
Speaker 4: Jamie in the beginning is so cute, and then some
Speaker 4: one knocks it out of the park in this episode,
Speaker 4: like he wanted funny and so good in this episode.
Speaker 4: It made me giggle watching it now so funny.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna cherry pick a little bit here. I
Speaker 3: like this one. This is a little uh kind of
Speaker 3: go back in time perhaps, who do you wish Julian
Speaker 3: would have picked as his best man. This is assuming
Speaker 3: I guess let's just say Jamie's not available. It's not
Speaker 3: that you don't like Jamie, but let's say he was
Speaker 3: unavailable that day.
Speaker 4: Yet a prior. Yeah, great question. You know, the whole
Speaker 4: thing was weird to me because this joke of like
Speaker 4: Julian not having guy friends was which was funny and
Speaker 4: it worked. I'm trying to think back to like, was
Speaker 4: there ever anybody that Julian got close with?
Speaker 5: There was a guy?
Speaker 3: I wish that you and I would have had more stuff,
Speaker 3: because yes, we were the two quirky, kind of offbeat guys,
Speaker 3: and I just feel like I could have had such
Speaker 3: a cool, fun nerdy bro thing.
Speaker 4: Yes, I pick you, Hey, yes, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 4: hold on, Clay. Yeah, I know we haven't talked in
Speaker 4: a while, but like back, you know, I always liked
Speaker 4: you and I thought we had, you know, like a
Speaker 4: great connection, and it's happening. I I don't know, I
Speaker 4: just feel like we're kind of on the same page
Speaker 4: with a lot of things, and I really, I really
Speaker 4: would you consider being my best.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'll marry you. Oh oh your best man? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'd love to be your best man totally.
Speaker 5: That's what.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, a thousand times. Yes, this is gonna
Speaker 3: This is great because I've written so much fan fiction
Speaker 3: about this that now it finally is going to pay off.
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, wait, if we're going to cherry
Speaker 1: pick something, cherry pick Wait. This is a really fun
Speaker 1: one because it jumps around in our shows and I
Speaker 1: like this alternate reality stuff. Who would you take? I
Speaker 1: think it needs to be a character. Who would you
Speaker 1: take from One Tree Hill into The Walking Dead? And why?
Speaker 5: Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, actually it's funny because like Hillary went on, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Floris was on, there were some other people that were
Speaker 4: on one Trio that were in The Walking Dead too
Speaker 4: lead to.
Speaker 3: The Walking Dead. Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, who would I take from one trio? Well? Okay,
Speaker 4: so I would answer it as like a survival ant,
Speaker 4: like who who would be the most like hmm my
Speaker 4: gut reaction is James Lafford. It is Nathan because he's
Speaker 4: an athlete and he's strong, and he's big, and he's
Speaker 4: he's lead. He's a leader. He's humble. People will follow him,
Speaker 4: not like greedy and power corrupt Nathan is such an
Speaker 4: honorable man. He would be such a great leader in
Speaker 4: the zombie Apocalypse.
Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, my knee jerk was Dan, But
Speaker 3: then I immediately shot that down because Dan would stab
Speaker 3: you in the back of.
Speaker 4: The well, and that in that world would probably be
Speaker 4: really good for a while until hes you in the back.
Speaker 1: Till he ruins your life. Okay, and this is a
Speaker 1: related question. Another person asked, do you think Julian would
Speaker 1: have lasted longer than Spencer in The Walking Dead?
Speaker 4: Well, it's so funny because both of these characters were not,
Speaker 4: uh what, neither of them would do well in the
Speaker 4: Zombie Apocalypse. So I would have to say it's a
Speaker 4: it's a tie, like they both would do equally horrible.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: Julian be like, case, should we have a play? Can
Speaker 4: we stage a play?
Speaker 1: People need to be entertained, you know, we should? We
Speaker 1: should entertain them?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: What or your thoughts on the whole high five gate
Speaker 3: with Julian?
Speaker 4: Okay, I may have said this before, and forgive me
Speaker 4: if I'm being repetitive, but it's one of those things
Speaker 4: that you hate in the moment and you feel like
Speaker 4: you're such an idiot and you feel like you're being
Speaker 4: taken advantage of and you're being made fun of. Then
Speaker 4: you find out years later that it's one of the
Speaker 4: most remembered moments that fans love and they ask for
Speaker 4: a high five in person. It's still kind of embarrassing
Speaker 4: when it happens, but it's also sweet that people remember
Speaker 4: something and it makes them laugh. Yeah, so I was.
Speaker 4: I've always been. It's always been a tug of war
Speaker 4: of like, god, that was so dumb, but oh my god,
Speaker 4: it's like it caught on. And sometimes I say this
Speaker 4: a lot. I've said this when I'm directing now, when
Speaker 4: I say to actors when they'd feel weird about something,
Speaker 4: I go, sometimes the cheesiest stupid stuff is the is
Speaker 4: the best stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, this came up recently. I'm trying to think Rob,
Speaker 1: you might remember who was on with us.
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it was Steven or someone. Somebody
Speaker 1: had joined us for an episode and we were talking
Speaker 1: about some of that like embarrassing whatever that they gave
Speaker 1: to Julian, and whoever was with us was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: this idea that they wanted to, you know, emasculate the
Speaker 1: swaggy movie director from La backfired so hard because Austin
Speaker 1: is so frickin likable and so charming and committed with
Speaker 1: his whole chest. So he doesn't look silly, he looks
Speaker 1: fucking adorable.
Speaker 3: That's me. Yeah, it was just me. Every time we talked, Yeah,
Speaker 3: every time we talk about you, buddy, I always said,
Speaker 3: I'm like, to me, it's it is the best thing
Speaker 3: because it was. Listen, I agree. I think everything you
Speaker 3: felt in the moment to me is accurate. Like you
Speaker 3: were kind of being taken advantage of. You were definitely
Speaker 3: being made fun of. It was an attempt to masculate you,
Speaker 3: but because you played it so earnestly and you leaned in,
Speaker 3: it completely backfired. And the thing that's funny is had
Speaker 3: they given you cool guy leading man lines, I still
Speaker 3: do not think Julian would have ended up as lovable
Speaker 3: as he did from you turning their crap into gold.
Speaker 4: Thank you. That's I mean, I don't even know what
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 3: That's so it's just a testament to like how likable
Speaker 3: you are. Like I say this all the time, Like
Speaker 3: you are infinitely likable as Julian, thank you, And so
Speaker 3: it's so funny to me, that's like all of these attempts,
Speaker 3: I'm like, Wow, what what you were hoping to undermined?
Speaker 3: You inadvertently built up?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: And the willingness to commit to a story like no
Speaker 1: matter where it's going to go is it's kind of
Speaker 1: our job. But I think, especially as young actors, it
Speaker 1: can be hard. You don't want to feel stupid, you
Speaker 1: don't want to you don't necessarily want to be the
Speaker 1: butt of a joke. And then I think you get
Speaker 1: older and you're like, oh my god, it's the best
Speaker 1: thing to be the joke in the scene. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: watching it back, we are always just like, God, he's
Speaker 1: so charming. It doesn't matter what you It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what you do or what they gave you. Like, you
Speaker 1: just crushed it.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: So anytime you're having a bad day, you just FaceTime
Speaker 1: me and Rob and we will tell you you're perfect.
Speaker 3: I worked with this director one time, and I remember
Speaker 3: there was some issues with the script or something, and
Speaker 3: she said to me, she went, I'll get my revenge.
Speaker 3: I'll shoot their script. And I love that, And to me,
Speaker 3: that's kind of like what you did. You were like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm actually not going to try to make this cool
Speaker 3: at all. I'm going to do it exactly as written
Speaker 3: and how to turn out, it was not emasculating. It
Speaker 3: was wildly endearing.
Speaker 4: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, it was great. Okay. I actually think this
Speaker 1: transitions into this next question really well, because you're obviously
Speaker 1: reflecting on this character that you built. What do you
Speaker 1: think you share with Julian? What similarities do you have
Speaker 1: to that character?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 4: I was actually I was doing a little jog this
Speaker 4: morning and I was thinking about this while I was jogging.
Speaker 4: This is kind of an answer, it's not exactly the answer.
Speaker 4: But when I was a young actor, I wanted to
Speaker 4: act and I wanted to play characters, and I wanted
Speaker 4: to like change everything and we're wigs and just be
Speaker 4: different and not be me and like always just transform.
Speaker 4: That was what I thought was interesting. And I remember
Speaker 4: when I got the call to do Montree Hill, I
Speaker 4: had to get on a plane and go to Wilmington
Speaker 4: so fast. I was like, there's no time to create
Speaker 4: a character. And I remember saying to myself for the
Speaker 4: first time, I said, I'm just gonna be myself and
Speaker 4: this will be an experiment to see what happens and
Speaker 4: lo and behold It was the first time that I
Speaker 4: had an audience really connect with me. And I don't
Speaker 4: know if that you know, really answers that question, but
Speaker 4: it was such such a big lesson because I actors
Speaker 4: want to act and they actually need we need directors,
Speaker 4: we need other people to help us. Because sometimes the
Speaker 4: difference between an actor who thinks they're doing something really good,
Speaker 4: but then somebody steps in and says, all I need
Speaker 4: you to do is just like not kind of be
Speaker 4: so excited. And if you just if you just actually
Speaker 4: just use your voice instead of like you're you're dropping
Speaker 4: into this like voice, you know, if you just actually
Speaker 4: just talk like you right now, I'm going.
Speaker 3: To cry less, Batman more, Bruce Wayne, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And I learned that on One Tree Hill. I
Speaker 4: learned that playing Julian because I committed to just being
Speaker 4: Austin in that role. And look, you know, the question
Speaker 4: is what's similar. I mean, certainly there are things that
Speaker 4: are different one hundred percent, but the overall the from
Speaker 4: forty thousand feet it was like, I'm going to go
Speaker 4: to work and speak from my heart every day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it comes across. I mean knowing you personally, I
Speaker 3: think like isn't that what we do? I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know. Some people have like big old methods. I
Speaker 3: bring a lot of rob to everything I do, like
Speaker 3: where it's applicable one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: And that's why you're so good and why people connect.
Speaker 4: It's all about connection. Yeah, and when people I see
Speaker 4: this so much now, when someone is trying trying to
Speaker 4: do something, there immediately is a barrier between the audience
Speaker 4: and them. And that's why you always it's so annoying
Speaker 4: because I was always an actor who was trying to
Speaker 4: do something and that director was always like less less less, No, no,
Speaker 4: don't do that, less less less less less. Yeah, And
Speaker 4: it took me so many years to understand what that
Speaker 4: meant because nobody ever said the audience isn't going to
Speaker 4: connect with you. No one ever said that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: they just said, don't do that.
Speaker 5: Do us.
Speaker 3: That's a great Josh Brolin story where I guess he
Speaker 3: was a big like process actor when he was doing
Speaker 3: Goonies when he was very y saw this and I
Speaker 3: guess he was like taught like it was when they
Speaker 3: were like going through a cave, and I guess he
Speaker 3: went up to is it, George?
Speaker 4: Was it Spielberg.
Speaker 3: Yeah. He went to Spielberg and was like, so is
Speaker 3: the cave, like, is it like a metaphor for like,
Speaker 3: am are we coming out of the womb? And Spielberg
Speaker 3: is basically like, how about you're a kid walking through
Speaker 3: a tunnel and say you're line and say your line?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So genius a perfect example.
Speaker 1: Perfect, It is a perfect example. And I have to
Speaker 1: and this is perfect because we are talking about movie making.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you we got great questions from
Speaker 1: the fans for you and I were barely scratching the surface.
Speaker 1: But one of the questions we got the most, the
Speaker 1: most was that they are so desperate for details on
Speaker 1: an early filmic project of yours, Holiday in the Sun.
Speaker 1: They want to know what it was like working with
Speaker 1: the Olsen twins, and more than twenty people asked if
Speaker 1: you were nervous to kiss Ashley and I feel like
Speaker 1: we've got to give the fans what they.
Speaker 4: Want, you know, happy to I learned pretty quickly when
Speaker 4: I was in One Tree Hill that there was a
Speaker 4: similar audience from those movies yeah Nashally movies to One
Speaker 4: Tree Hill, and there was a lot of overlap there.
Speaker 4: So people say stuff a lot I was definitely nervous
Speaker 4: because Mary Kate was fifteen and I was I think
Speaker 4: eighteen or nineteen or maybe even twenty, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: But I was old and it felt weird and it
Speaker 4: felt wrong, and you know, I looked very young. So
Speaker 4: watching the movie, I don't think you noticed. I'm real
Speaker 4: tall and skinny and like nerdy, but I don't think
Speaker 4: you can tell there's a big age difference. But from
Speaker 4: my brain, I was like, she's fifteen, this is not
Speaker 4: this is weird. So I remember talking to you producers,
Speaker 4: and I remember talking to even her dad was there,
Speaker 4: and I just wanted everybody to like. I was like,
Speaker 4: is this okay with you guys? Like, and they were
Speaker 4: all like, oh, don't worry about it. Nobody was, you know,
Speaker 4: nobody seemed concerned, and I was very concerned. But it
Speaker 4: turned out fine. It was all very g rated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think that really speaks to your character though,
Speaker 1: because listen, they'd been acting since they were little. It's
Speaker 1: not like a fifteen year old girl was going to
Speaker 1: have her first kiss ever, you know, with a guy
Speaker 1: five years older than her. But the fact that as
Speaker 1: the older actor in the room, you were like, hey,
Speaker 1: how are we going to address this, because yes, this
Speaker 1: is our job, but also we got to acknowledge what's
Speaker 1: happening here.
Speaker 4: I and I they're children.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really just like I respect that.
Speaker 4: About you so much, Thank you, thank you. It was
Speaker 4: in a way, it's one of those things. It's similar
Speaker 4: to the high five moment where when you're young and
Speaker 4: you're trying to make your career as an actor and
Speaker 4: do all these cool projects and you have this one
Speaker 4: that you feel is maybe a little silly, And I
Speaker 4: had to give that up years ago because people love it.
Speaker 4: And I had to put away my crap and my
Speaker 4: all my junk in my head and go, people like
Speaker 4: this thing, And why am I being a jerk about it?
Speaker 4: Like it's only it's only paid me back a million
Speaker 4: times with love. Like So that's another lesson I've learned from,
Speaker 4: you know, doing what we do is you know, sometimes
Speaker 4: it's the same thing. Sometimes those things that you don't
Speaker 4: think maybe aren't like super cool or hip, a lot
Speaker 4: of people love them.
Speaker 1: Yeah I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you heard it from Austin Nichols. Sometimes the
Speaker 3: cheesy stuff is the best stuff, that's right, Austin, You're
Speaker 3: one of my favorite people I don't get to see regularly,
Speaker 3: So thank you for making the time.
Speaker 4: Oh, thanks guys. I miss you guys, and I know.
Speaker 1: We missed you in Wilmington.
Speaker 4: I know I miss you guys too. I saw pictures
Speaker 4: and I was really sad. But there'll be another and
Speaker 4: there will be another other again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you got to go take that movie to
Speaker 1: a festival. I can't wait. Where can people follow that, Austin?
Speaker 1: Where can they get info on the movie?
Speaker 4: So I would I would look at follow my Instagram
Speaker 4: Austin Nichols for now until we get closer to like
Speaker 4: a sale and a release. Okay, it doesn't have its
Speaker 4: own social media yet. Yeah, you know buyers, sales agents
Speaker 4: and buyers distributors. They get weird when you do too
Speaker 4: much early totally, so we got to kind of wait.
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, and I'll put it out there on
Speaker 4: my Instagram.
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