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Derek is out this week, but we'll 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.800 discuss all the moves that the Cowboys have made. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:53.880 We haven't had it. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:56.920 I don't recall last week us talking about a lot 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:58.960 of those moves. So today we're just gonna take a 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.840 deep dive and all the changes on the roster at 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:05.600 the moment. See if these guys like it, don't like it, 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:09.960 what is the criticism around that. So we'll start with first. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.960 Of all, the trade that the Cowboys made and helped 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:14.200 me out. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:20.440 Nick kayir kyer Elam Kayer Elam Elam. Yeah, cornerback the draft, 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:25.640 the draft they got the Cowboys got him and a 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:30.120 six round pick for this year. This draft around and 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.919 they sent a couple of draft picks to the Buffalo Bills. Brian, 0:01:34.959 --> 0:01:39.160 I'll start with you with your observation on this guy, 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.160 scouting report on him, and what he brings to the team. 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.000 Yeah, I think when you look at with with Elam, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:47.760 they're gonna have to play him as a pressman corner. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:49.880 And when you watch him play, when you watched him 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.000 come out of Florida, you know, several years ago when 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.440 Nick and I were working on the draft show stuff, this, 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.160 these were the types of players that you know that 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.560 that you were you were studying these guys that have 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:02.680 some length to him, that have some size to him. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.720 This is a this is a nice size corner for 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:09.400 you that could really play press man very very well. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.280 And I think that Buffalo got away from that, and 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:16.120 there was some questions about whether that Brandon Beam, the 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.000 general manager for the Bills, made the pick. And then 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.320 we're the head coach and the general manager on the 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:24.440 same page when it came to this player. So maybe 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.040 he was fighting out a little bit at Buffalo. But 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.799 I feel like you need to play this guy as 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.359 a pressman corner. Let him get up on you, let him, 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.560 let him be able to jam be able to redirect 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:39.679 move with those with those receivers, because I think that's 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.120 something he can do very very well. When you play 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.520 him off or in zone coverage, the reactions are not 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.880 as good as where I think where it needs to 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.440 be so physical, corner got good size. It's going to 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.440 be a fresh start for him for the Dallas Cowboys. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.000 So a couple of years ago, a guy that probably 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.160 on a lot of people's strap board was probably in 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:02.280 the top fifty when it came to players. So you know, 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.440 one of those things where the Cowboys probably saw him 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.280 the same way and hopefully they're playing more press man. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.920 Yeah, Brian hit it on the head and mentioning that 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.400 Brandon being the Bills GM. He was asked about Kaye 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.639 last week in availability with the media and why it 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.160 didn't work out. He said, ultimately, it's on me. I 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.400 made this selection that didn't work out, and I own that. 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.480 You don't want those to happen. But man, I'm rooting 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:23.720 for Kaye, I really am. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:23.920 So. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.000 I mean it was a situation where, gosh, I'm forgetting 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.160 the guy's name who took over his spot, but he 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.239 was a six round pick in that same exact draft, 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.360 and he just a Christian. Benford just immediately took over 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:39.880 Kye's job almost immediately as when they were both rookies, 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:41.840 and he just kind of carried that on throughout the 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.680 early in their career. So it hasn't really worked out 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.000 for Kaye in Buffalo, but coming to Dallas, there's going 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.560 to be an opportunity for him to start on the 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:52.160 outside as early as week one. If Trayvon Diggs is 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.440 not available to go, they're gonna need someone on the 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.839 outside opposite of Deron Bland. They're also gonna need someone 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.320 in the nickel. But there's a lot of work on that. 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:02.440 Yea, Yeah, there's a. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.960 Lot of problems that corner and just having depth right 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.120 now certainly helps. And look, I saw some people on 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.240 social media kind of overreacting to like, why would you 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:11.160 draft this bust? 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.640 He's a first round bust and you gave up nothing 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:14.400 at the end of the day. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.359 I mean, you got a guy who's going to be 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.640 on one year rental for you, and if he plays well, 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.240 you can sign him to a second contract. It's not 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.360 like you're going to activate that fifth year option and 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.760 pay him what is it, seventeen million next year? 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:26.000 You're fine. 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:27.880 It's a cheap guy that you can add depth, and 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.280 it's a guy who's gonna get a second chance. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:31.800 Second chances sometimes work out too. 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:35.680 Yeah, and sometimes, like you say, Brandy Bean even came 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.520 out and said it, it's on him. The general manager 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.800 saw something in the player and Brandon Bean and we 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:43.440 all agree the Buffalo Bills are a pretty damn good team, 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.080 you know. And sometimes as a general manager, you give 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.360 a gut feeling about a player and you know it's 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.960 a first round. Yeah, that's an expensive way of doing things, 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:53.960 but you know, yeah, the fact that to me that 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.440 this player you watched him at Florida and you watched 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:58.360 him and you watch him. 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.720 Play at Buffalo. There's some traits and things things that happen, 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:00.960 you know. 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.640 I know that they were at a game against Kansas 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.120 City that was really really rough, but you know, this 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.839 guy coming in and playing. Though I could say Nick's right, 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:11.719 you know, sometimes people make mistakes. Maybe this guy comes 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.040 to a fresh start, a new opportunity, a coaching staff 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:16.920 that kind of believes in him a little bit, and 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:18.520 then you never know what you get out of that. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.080 But this guy's a physical player. You could go back 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.440 and watch him in college cover those really good Alabama 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:26.200 receivers and carry those guys all over the field and 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:27.560 make plays and stuff like that. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.520 So it's a scout I was always taught. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.760 Man. You see that I think will translate. Hopefully that'll 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:33.720 be an opportunity for him. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.000 Here now, as we go along the list of guys, 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.080 we're gonna play a little game and I'm gonna put 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:39.880 you guys on the spot. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.760 I just want you to give me your rating. 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.760 You know, when you go to the doctor's office and 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.960 they have a chart with a smiley face a sad face. 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.320 I hate this. So I'm in paint ambar. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:55.000 You've got three choices here, Okay, happy face, smiley face, 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.160 a neutral face, just a straight up line, horizontal line. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:00.000 Or a sad face. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:05.600 So for this one, this uh considering, taking into consideration 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.279 what you gave up for this guy and everything that 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:08.920 it involves. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.720 Where would you rate this move for the Cowboys? 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:12.320 Neutral? 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:13.120 Neutral? 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.200 I think neutral right now, you know, but hopefully they 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.039 play him the right way and then it turns into 0:06:18.080 --> 0:06:18.720 a happy face. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:20.360 But I'm going to go neutral on it as well. 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:21.480 Okay, perfect. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.560 So the next trade that the Cowboys made not too 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:29.120 long after that first one was they traded for Kenneth Murray. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:33.720 He's a linebacker, and this trade happened with the Tennessee Titans. 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.400 They also got a pick from the Titans as well. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.640 What do you take into this? Do you like this guy? 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:42.280 Nick? 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.560 I know there's a we know the need at linebacker 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.840 currently for the Cowboys, knowing with overshown and all and 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.120 his injury, how do you rate this pick? 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.080 Yeah? This is uh, this is certainly an interesting one. 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.200 And when it came down I guess that was last Wednesday, 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:58.479 I was like, oh, wow, this is this is an 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.960 interesting move. I I kind of adding on to what 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.640 I was saying earlier about social media being an upheaval 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.760 about these trades. It is like, essentially, you took one 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.240 of your fifth round picks and moved it to the 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.560 seventh round, and you added two players that can start 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.200 for you this year. I don't think that's a bad 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:15.120 move at the end of the day. 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:16.040 And there was. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:19.720 Some Day three, twenty twenty six cheese involved, but it 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.200 wasn't anything major. And when you add a guy like 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.040 Kenneth Murray, who has the experience that he has, he 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.400 comes off being a team captain in Tennessee last year. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:30.600 He can control your defense if he needs to. It's 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:33.480 a smart player to have involved. This is This is 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.400 not a bad move in my eyes. Now, granted, is 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.840 he the best linebacker you could have traded for. No, 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.160 that's why he only cost a fifth or sixth round pick, 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.800 whatever it was. I think there's some instincts in the 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:44.840 run game that he might have to he might have 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.200 to be addressed with with Matt Eberflus. But you know, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.600 Ebraflus has done a really good job in developing linebackers 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.400 throughout his time. Now, Murray's been in the league for 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.600 four or five years. Now, you know how much development 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.240 quote unquote does he have left? Can he teach an 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.840 old dog new tricks? The guy is twenty six years 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.560 I think there is still still some development left in 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:04.720 his game. But he's a hard hitter, he's a thumper. 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.360 I like this move. I don't think he's a long 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:10.880 term starter here in Dallas, but I think he's a 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.400 guy that can give you more than enough flexibility for 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.520 Demarvey and Overshowing to come off of his injury, more 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:19.200 than enough flexibility. If Jack Sanborn might not be ready 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.000 to command a defense early on this is a guy 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.720 you want to have involved. I mean, experience really pays 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:25.920 off in this league, and he's got it. 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:26.840 Yeah. 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.920 I totally agree with what Nick saying here. And you know, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.240 to me, there's this group when they went into the 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:39.600 free agency process, we were talking about linebackers, were thinking about, Hey, 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.200 positions that maybe I know in the draft show positions 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:44.880 you might double dip. My linebacker surely was one of 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.000 those those areas that we were focusing on. But to 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.240 go out and get a guy like Murray, and you know, 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:53.280 I'm gonna say this, the physicality that he plays with 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.880 I think is impressive, The toughness that he plays with. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.880 You know, yeah, is he perfect in coverage? No, not 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:00.880 all the time. But when you start to talk about 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.760 playing run defense, and and and filling in the in 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:05.840 the hole, and and and getting to the outside and 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.400 playing with a little little range, a little link to it, 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.240 I think that you could have done far worse here. 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:15.000 So I'm with Nick on this one. I Uh, is 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:16.600 he is he a starter? Could he be a starter? 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:16.960 Yeah? 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.520 He can absolutely be start. He's proven places where he's been. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:21.240 He was a starter at the Chargers, he was a 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.760 starter at Tennessee, you know, we've seen what they did, uh, 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.880 you know last year, you know with with Eric Kendricks, 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.560 and you know, hopefully you get the same kind of 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.040 results that you get a guy that that comes in 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.560 in this physical and makes plays and and you know, 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.040 and and brings an element of toughness to your game. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.880 And with that, they added another linebacker and make mentioned 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:46.880 him Jack Sandborg. This was a one year deal from 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:50.200 the Bears. That's where he played. What are some of 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.080 the differences that you see there and the type of 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:53.480 player between the Well. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:55.400 And the Bears are the Bears have got a good 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:57.839 group of linebackers. I felt like you know that they 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.680 they were they were Sandborn. What's surprising to me is 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.760 he was less than a million dollar player and they 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.640 let him walk. They didn't tender him. So you know, 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:10.560 he was able to kind of you know, Dallas jumped 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.559 in there really really quick on it and was able 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.720 to get that done. You know, probably with a little 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.040 bit of influence from Matt Eberflus. But you watch this 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.400 guy play. Here's a guy that has a. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:20.640 Real nose for the football. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.199 I mean, he's the tackles are there that it's rare 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.160 that you see linebackers that undercut blocks, and I mean 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.360 go dip underneath the block and then get back into 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:32.120 the play like Samborne is able to do. He played 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.840 as an outside linebacker, he could play an inside linebacker. 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.560 I think there's that element to him. I probably play 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.600 him on the inside more myself. But man, I'll tell 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.800 you what though. He is a guy that he's got 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.440 a nose for the ball, he has a feeling for 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.560 how to play blocks, He's got linked he could get 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.240 off blocks. To me, you could have say it again, 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:53.280 you could have done far worse with you know, going on. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.400 I think the Pro department here might have found a guy. 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.800 I'm if you play the happy face game and all that, 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.280 I would be happy. I would be smiling face on 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:02.839 this one. I think they did a pretty good job 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:03.560 of finding a guy. 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.960 Yeah, before we move on to u Nick speaking of 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:08.920 how really messed up the game. But for Murray, what's 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:09.400 your rating? 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.320 I tell you what, I think, I'm a happy face 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.960 happy face because they think of the physicality that he 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:17.520 plays with the toughness that he plays with. Both these 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.600 players or guys are happy face for me because you 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:24.160 know they were in on the Drake greenlawal nic will 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.079 tell you this. They were in on that green Law 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.920 made a decision to go elsewhere. They were trying their 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:30.439 best to make that and that would have been a 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.280 great signing right there, but they kind of pivoted rallied 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:34.920 and I think they did okay. And at these two 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:35.800 that they've done. 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.240 I'm going to give neutral for both. 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:39.920 We'll see how they fare on the field, but I 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.400 think both of these editions are had the potential to 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.360 be really strong for that linebacking corps. They need that 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.439 depth and they bring experience along with it. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:52.000 And do you have a different perspective on Sanborn or what. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.120 Yeah, for scond Born, I think it's it's certainly going 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.880 to help kind of transition this defense into the Eberflus era. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.960 I mean you think back last year, I mean the 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.319 Cowboys only the two outside signings, and one of them 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:07.000 was Eric Kendricks. Mike Zimmer wanted to go get his guys. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:10.520 He had this on field bridge, if you will, to 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.000 help usher in this new system during training camp and 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:15.840 then throughout the season, have a guy that he can 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.920 trust to be the lead communicator. Now, Jack Sanborn doesn't 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.000 have the experience that Eric Hendricks had coming into Dallas, obviously, 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.280 but he's going to kind of serve that same purpose 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:26.880 in the sense that he already knows the system. He's 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.360 a great communicator, He's been a leader of a defense 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.920 before in an eber flu system. He's going to be 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.079 the guy that a lot of people come to with questions. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.680 And that was one of the questions I had for 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.280 him yesterday when he did a conference call with the media. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:40.520 I was like, Okay, you know, a lot of guys 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.280 are going to come to you because you are the 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.080 one who knows it. You are the one who's been 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.800 inside of it for three years. And so he said, 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.600 it's about flying around, having an aggressive mindset and getting downhill. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.920 But everybody has a job. He's really big into that 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.360 making sure that not only you know your job, you 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.040 know why you're doing your job, and by doing your job. 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:58.560 What that leads to for other people. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.440 And he said, I'm willing to do anything to help 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.000 everyone else learn. At the end of the day, we're 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.360 in this together as one. There's going to be competition 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:09.240 in that linebacker room. But just talking to Jack Sanbourne yesterday, 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.920 I get the sense that he's going to be helping 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.360 everyone out in that linebacker room. 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:14.800 Well, it's like titing to see some of these changes 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.280 and what is actually going to look like once they 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.960 start training together and we go to training camp and 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:24.880 start seeing them, uh transform this defense into something different. Now, 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:27.319 staying on the defensive side of the ball, they also 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:31.439 signed Solomon Thomas, a defensive tackle who is coming from 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.280 the New York Jets. He played over there. What are 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:37.040 your scouting report on this player? 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:38.200 Versatile? 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.360 He's going to play in some different roles for you, 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.720 And yeah, we're just gonna come right back to the conversation. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.040 That's the conversation. He is versatile. 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:49.760 He's a guy that probably factors in more so as 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:53.600 the backup three tech for Osa Digizua on rotational downs, 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:55.520 but I think he's also a guy that could play 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.040 some one tech on some passing downs because because he 0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:00.720 can get into the backfield, he has experience with defensive 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.880 line coach Aaron Whitecott and going back to their time 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:04.880 with the Jets, and he can get to the quarterback 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.560 if asked to do so. He's a Kapel guy. So 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.000 back in DFW, I I always love when that happens. 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.840 And really good dude, he's he's really active in the community. 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.520 If you look up a year from now and he's 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:19.440 this team's Walter Payton nominee, then I wouldn't be surprised 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:19.720 at all. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:20.280 Yeah, he. 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.480 Talked about when coach Whitecotton got the job that that 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:26.760 might be a possibility. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.840 Because he did. He played very well. 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.000 You know, we'll see what about the run defense stuff 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.920 and how that goes for him. I'm not totally I'm 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:37.120 not discouraging that at all. He got a lot out 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.440 of coach white Kott got a lot out of him 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:42.240 as a pass rusher. And I think Nick's absolutely right. 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.600 You play him at the three technique and let him 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.760 be the backup guy, let him play the one sum 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.920 in the nickel with him and os inside man, you 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.960 get two pretty active guys right there. Last year, it 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.640 just didn't seem like that in the defensive tackle spot 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:58.640 that they had guys inside that were able to rotate 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.800 at that three. Give you some pass rush. This this 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.600 to me that I believe like this is an upgrade. 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:07.080 You got a guy that can rush the passers I've 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:09.120 mentioned you got to back up for Osa, and you've 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.520 got a guy that has some experience, and the and 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.680 the and you got a coach here now that got 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.440 the absolute best at him. I think this is a 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:16.840 really good combination for them. 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.440 I love everything you guys are saying so rated with 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.760 a little smiley face. Negas is your first smiley face. 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.640 I'm gonna say neutral, You're gonna You're gonna hate me 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:27.000 in this game. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.720 So you're going neutral with because a smiley face for 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.160 me would be going and getting Cooper cup last. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.800 You know what, I've been going and getting Stu fun. 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.720 But as soon as I asked you about this guy, yeah, 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.760 you answered started answering with a smile on your face. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:45.440 Yeah. So yeah, I'm a happy guy. I just be smiling. 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:47.720 You reacted differently than the other Yeah, I just I 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:48.520 just be smiling. 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.360 I'm I will smile because the reasons I talked about, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.280 because of the the three technique stuff, they just felt 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.080 like they didn't have somebody that could play behind Osa, 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.240 that you could really really rely on. So I give 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.560 them props. 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See for yourself at LG 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.200 dot com, slash oll Leadevo. 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.439 Thank you Welcome back to the second segment of the 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:08.479 Break presented by blockchain dot Com. 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.960 All right, let's try to move alone. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:12.879 So, because we still have a lot of guys to 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:17.040 cover here, the next one in the timeline of events 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:22.320 is Real mccuamum. He's another guy the hasband with the Cowboys. Obviously, 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.240 you guys are very familiar with him. Safety the Cowboys 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.320 end up giving him a new deal and he stays 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:29.680 here in Dallas. Thoughts on this move? 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:32.000 Can I propose a question to you, Brian, go ahead? 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.879 Israel mcuamu Kayir Elam? One of them gets the start 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:36.760 on in week one? You can only pick one of 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.280 I know there's two up in spots, but there's only 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:38.840 one of them. 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:39.760 Let's say it's for. 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.040 Outside corner obviously, Yeah, who do you think is it? 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:51.240 I think they would probably start Izzy there. Me personally, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.040 I think I would start Elm. I just think that 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:54.640 I think that. 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:55.479 To me that Elam. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:57.919 I think I think in training camp, we're gonna really 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.880 like the physicality that he plays with. And we'll see. 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:03.639 But I would say that they would is he is 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:05.399 he is, He's a good player for them. I mean, 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:07.480 he's done a good job you remember, I mean the 0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.480 nickel that he the nickel job he did against Tampa 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.080 in a playoff game. You know that can't go unnoticed. 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:14.639 Right now, I think he's one of those guys that 0:20:14.680 --> 0:20:16.400 are kind of trying to find a spot for him. 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:19.360 But I would, I would say they would probably start him. 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.680 But I think elm is going to that's a terrible 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:24.639 answer because I'm riding the fence on that, But I would. 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:27.920 I would think they would start Izzy in that opening game. 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.520 Kim mcwalmo would be, you're starting Nickel throughout the season? 0:20:30.640 --> 0:20:31.479 Seventeen games? 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:32.720 Is? 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.120 I think there's some fans who want it to happen. Yeah, 0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:36.080 I think it's realistic. 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:39.760 Why am I thinking about guys that at Kansas State 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:41.720 and a guy at Louisville and a guy at you 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:46.440 know other places. I'm thinking about North Carolina, Hussey I'm 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:49.480 thinking about I'm thinking about Nichols that they could draft 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:51.200 that I know could play Nickel off the jump. And 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.240 now I talked about is he. I mean, you can't 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.440 discount what he did in that game. You can't. 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.240 I don't know if for seventeen games I could go there? 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:03.119 Yeah, what are you? What's your answer to your own question. 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.280 Yeah, I agree, because I don't think he can go 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:06.600 seventeen games throughout the season. 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:11.200 Yeah, okay, what's the rating Neutrals eighth neutral? 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:14.280 Okay, always, Yeah, I think I'm neutral on this one because, 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:18.200 like I said, my running back at my cornerboard's pretty deep. 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.520 I'd like to see them address this position with maybe 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:22.840 a couple of those guys. 0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:25.720 All right, well, Brian, you got the timeline right, because 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.639 the next guy is a running back over here. The 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:33.240 Cowboys got Miles Sanders, who's formerly has played in the. 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:34.600 Past for the Eagles. 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:38.280 I think that's where most people kind of recognize him 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.800 from during his timeline there. And again we've heard about 0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.040 the changes at the running back room and what they're 0:21:44.040 --> 0:21:46.800 trying to do here and build this year. What are 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:50.520 your thoughts on a player like this Miles Sanders. 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:54.520 I'm going to I'm going to pair him with Javonte 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.040 Williams in this conversation just because I get idea. They 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.359 I think they kind of run, no pun intendent. I 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:02.240 think they run a lot in the sense, both of 0:22:02.280 --> 0:22:05.199 these guys being veterans in the room that you bring in, 0:22:05.480 --> 0:22:09.200 you're expected to use, expected to use a premium pick 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.680 at the running back position. Premium pick, meaning first couple 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:13.960 of days in the draft, you're expected to draft a 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:16.480 running back. This is a really deep running back class, 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.200 and if you grab a guy in the third round, 0:22:19.240 --> 0:22:21.359 you're probably gonna get a pretty talented guy. He's going 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.520 to be a young guy coming into this room with 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:26.520 Javonte Williams, who's a really good pass catcher and a 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.600 really good pass protector, and then Miles Sanders, who has 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:33.119 experience and can also get out of the backfield as well. 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.200 So that's going to be immediate competition in that room 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:38.040 once they get to training camp. We talked to Javonte 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:41.760 Williams yesterday, the media did, and the expectation that has 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.359 been set for him by the coaches is be ready 0:22:44.359 --> 0:22:46.640 to compete because there's going to be an open starting job, 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:48.600 ready ready to go in training camp. So it's not 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.440 going to be hey, we draft r J. Harvey, Hey, 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.200 this team drafts DJ Giddens or whatever in the third round, 0:22:54.240 --> 0:22:55.800 that guy is going to be the starter. It's going 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:57.879 to be, hey, that rookie is going to compete with 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:00.760 Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders for this starting position. If 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:03.920 you're asking me about Miles Sanders specifically, I think he's 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:06.679 comfortably third in that position, and we don't even have 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.000 a rookie to place in the mix right now. Just 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:10.600 because his time in Carolina was not good. 0:23:10.880 --> 0:23:11.359 You look at the. 0:23:11.359 --> 0:23:15.120 Yards per carry, rush yards expected over average, I mean, 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:17.399 it was not It was not a good time in 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:20.000 Carolina for him. He got passed up by Chewba Hubbard. 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:22.320 As soon as Jonathan Brooks came off of his knee injury, 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:26.239 he was immediately a replace for Miles Sanders. So I 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.240 think I think Miles Sanders is going to be working 0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:30.840 behind the eight ball a little bit, but having that 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.399 veteran experience in the running back room will certainly help well. 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.000 Since and we can't talk about what's going to happen 0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.560 in the future, we don't know who there might draft 0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:41.000 at the running back position. But looking at what they 0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:43.720 currently have at the moment versus what they used to have, 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.159 what are some of the similarities or differences in the 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:51.080 running style that the Cowboys previously had versus what these 0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:52.639 two guys bring to the table. 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.840 They got worse. They actually got worse. You know, if 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.800 you look at overall, and here's this is where this was. 0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:03.119 This is the concerning thing to me is that they 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.080 went out and hired to code. The best thing they've 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.960 done for the running game so far is hire two coaches. 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:10.879 They haven't helped the running game at all, to be 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.080 honest with you, you know, And like I said, I 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.040 think Williams can catch the ball well. I think he 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.600 blocks very well. I think Miles Sanders is done, I 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:22.240 really really do. And you know, Ducevon we've seen Duce 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.760 Fond can't play special teams and that hurts his availability 0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.400 on game day. And then Malik Davis is a guy 0:24:28.440 --> 0:24:30.679 that's kind of just been here and had chances and 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.399 really hasn't capitalized on the chances. That room's a mess. 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.840 And you know, to me, I would have, honestly, I 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:39.159 would have I would have double dipped that position. I 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.119 think the draft is deepen up where you could have 0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:43.280 got a guy, say hi enough, I'm not saying you 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:44.600 have to get a guy in the first round, but 0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:45.920 if you got a guy in the second round and 0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:47.680 a guy in a fifth round, I think Nick would 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.399 agree with me. This running back room, or this running 0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.480 back draft stretch is pretty deep, you know, to me. 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.880 So you know, you talk about wanting to run the ball. 0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:00.280 You show, but you make a commitment by the which 0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:04.120 is that you hired. You didn't help yourself particularly well 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:06.200 with these two backs that you just signed. I think 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:08.800 that's still a big, big, red blinking light for this 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:09.520 football team. 0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:10.679 The two things I want to bring up. 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:14.720 One, whenever they did sign Miles Sanders, you mentioned duce 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.840 Vaughan Brian. Yeah, that's that's a guy who this training 0:25:17.840 --> 0:25:20.720 camp is probably the last opportunity for Ducefan. They're gonna 0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.000 give him that training camp shot one hundred percent, but 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.960 he's going to have to prove that he's worthy of 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:27.760 a starting spot. And he's battled injury in each of 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:29.920 his first two camps. So maybe, you know, just staying 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.520 healthy might be the biggest thing for Ducewan, you know, 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:34.240 being able to show that he has something in the 0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:36.719 receiving game. Who knows, maybe this Schottenheimer offense helps him 0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.320 out a little bit more. But having two veterans in 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:41.320 the room expected to have a rookie in the room, 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.480 it's it's kind of spelling that that duce Vaughn's leash 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.280 is running up. The other thing I want to bring 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:52.600 up is them signing two veteran running backs. I'm afraid, Brian, 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:54.560 that we're going to be sitting in this room on 0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:55.760 Day three of the draft. 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:57.040 Yeah, and there is. 0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.280 Still not a running back on this team, which again 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:01.960 we've talked about. This running back class is deep. You 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:04.800 can get a guy in the fifth round who could compete, sure, 0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:06.560 but I don't I don't know if you want to 0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:07.160 bank on No. 0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.720 No, I mean, and I think you're right, but but please, don't, 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.240 you know, don't you know, pee on me and tell 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.560 me it's raining outside, you know, don't don't don't tell 0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.600 me that. Don't tell me you're committed to running the 0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:20.800 football and all that and not address that thing in 0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:23.280 the first three rounds, you know, don't don't do that. 0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:24.600 Neither of these guys are early down. 0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:25.440 No, not at all. 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:28.280 Either of these guys are the guy fifteen minutes, first quarter, 0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:29.320 just play the game. 0:26:29.359 --> 0:26:30.560 Hand it off to him. He's going to get you 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:32.160 eight years. Neither of these guys. 0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.280 Are you go you know you you you swapped out. 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:38.720 And maybe maybe the Rico daddle, maybe he overplayed his hand, 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.080 maybe he overplayed I don't, I don't know, I don't 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.399 know what happened with Rico Daddle maybe, you know, I 0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:45.240 don't know if it's the Cowboys thought he was going 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.159 to get more money or Rico Daddle thought he was 0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.320 going to get more money. But to me that when 0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.439 that that that that was a mistake. I think on 0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:54.719 both sides right there, you know, until somebody tells me different. 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.600 But like I said, don't tell me you're going to 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.800 be committed to running game and try and be better 0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.520 at it and load up with what your go with 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.960 what you got right now, that is not going to 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:06.560 get it done. 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:07.840 Funny enough, I was. 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:11.800 I flew up to the Northeast this past weekend and 0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.120 I had a layover in Charlotte. So my first flight 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:16.880 was DFW to Charlotte, and first class on my flight 0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.240 is ric O'dowdell and I caught him coming off the 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.440 plane and he just looked super excited to be back home. 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.840 He sounded super excited to be back home, So I 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.359 wonder how much that factored into it. At the end 0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:26.440 of the day, he didn't have a ton of time, 0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:28.520 but we caught it for maybe twenty seconds, and being 0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:30.600 back in Charlotte it is a big deal for him. 0:27:30.600 --> 0:27:32.720 He's like, Yeah, I'm from Ashville. I grew up, you know, 0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:35.680 thirty minutes away. It's it's really good to be back. 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.639 So I you know, you factor that in, and you 0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.639 factor that that room is already pretty crowded in Carolina. 0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:44.280 I think the hometown thing was bigger for Rico Dawdle 0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:47.960 than maybe what was realized. But coming back to this team, 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.280 Javonte Williams, I think could be a great running back 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.560 too that you almost get me to smile on Givanta 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.800 will you might almost. Yeah, I think it'd be a 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:01.600 phenomenal complimentary especially at this stage in his career. He's 0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:04.560 still only twenty four years old. He's got experience, He's 0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.680 shown that he's come back off that ACL injury that 0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.520 he suffered in his second season. He's a guy that 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:11.360 could pass protect. He can get out of the backfield 0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:12.800 and help you in the passing game. 0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:15.240 Absolutely, but you can't. He's not an RB one, he's 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:16.080 an I. 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:20.200 Agree, Okay, So I clearly, based on everything you said, Brian, 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.639 we get like a frown face, mad face of a 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:23.400 here even. 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:23.960 Round face there. 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.199 Yeah, you know, and they're gonna have an opportunity and 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.119 if and it's going to be even more of a 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.879 frown face if Nick's right about that, they wait three 0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.240 time though. Even though I think there's some running backs there, 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:38.400 I do. I think there's some fourth fifth running backs 0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.160 there that I mean, I think I've studied twenty five 0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:45.680 of them, and I'm they're all very capable players. 0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.800 Well, hopefully we are. The running back story changes this year. 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:52.480 We'll see what happens after the draft and we'll discuss 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.000 once again this running back room and the guys that 0:28:56.160 --> 0:29:01.560 hopefully somebody one or two at least draft it. We'll see, 0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:03.840 we'll see what happens there. But let's take our for 0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.680 our final break. When we come back, we'll continue going 0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:09.440 down the list of guys signs so far. 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.240 If you can't be at the stadium, there's no better 0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:16.640 way to watch your Cowboys than on an lg O 0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.360 lead Evo TV. 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One 0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.960 the sense that they they went out and were aggressive 0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:28.640 in getting another pass rusher opposite of Miles Miles Micah Parsons, 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.480 my goodness, once they realized that DeMarcus Larns was not 0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:33.480 going to be back in the fold, so going and 0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:37.120 getting a running mate for Micah on those passing downs, 0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:40.960 and especially a violent athletic guy like Dante Fowler coming 0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.960 off the season that he had in Washington. It's kind 0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:45.640 of a career resurgence for him that he had in 0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.040 DC ten and a half sacks. I thought he was 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:49.480 snubbed for the Pro Bowl. I thought he was a 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:50.840 guy that would have been a shoe in a couple 0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:54.320 of force fumbles, fourteen tackles for loss, and this guy 0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:56.720 he did a lot for the Commander's defense last year 0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:00.320 and mostly rotational work, and so I think he's going 0:33:00.360 --> 0:33:02.640 to have a starting opportunity here. You get me to 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.520 smile because of that. Secondly, you get me to smile 0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.080 because they signed a contract more than six million dollars. 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.160 Granted it's six million dollar base, but it's worth up 0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.160 to eight million dollars. This is the richest annual free 0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.680 agent deal that they've signed in ten years. So Greg Hardy, Yes, 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:19.800 since Greg Hardy. So hopefully it pans out a little 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.440 bit better than that one. And Dante Fowler can bring 0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:23.680 some pass rush to this team. 0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:24.600 I'll tell you what. 0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.240 I like this one too, And I'm even me smiling. 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:28.760 Yeah see, you know this. 0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:29.600 Is smile this guy. 0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:32.040 If you go back and watch him play for the Commanders, 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.680 you know, he did a really fine job. I know 0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:37.400 people have some questions about his ability to defend the run. 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.440 I thought he got better at that. There were some 0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:41.880 times where you know, you watched him and blockers tried 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:43.880 to get up on him and he was able to 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.080 like to shed those guys to chase the ball. I 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.760 was I was happy to see that for him. He's 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:53.320 he's he's like I said, I think that here later 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.560 in his career, things are kind of going in the 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:58.640 right direction for him. And the pass rush of the sacks, 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.160 the ability to play in the twist game. You know, 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.640 you need somebody opposite Micah And I'll tell you what, 0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:06.480 you got a guy that can. They can they can 0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.400 create pressure and he can also get sacked. So, you know, 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.879 good for the team for forgetting that done. That that 0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:13.960 that was a good get for them. 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:14.279 All right. 0:34:14.600 --> 0:34:18.399 Next guy up is another guy that's coming up from 0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:22.920 the feely Philadelphia Egel's coming up with a super Bowl. 0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.319 But still this is the guy that a lot of 0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.000 people have criticized as far as the fans like on 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.160 social media, because he doesn't have a ton of really 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:38.400 good experience on the record. He he's Perris Campbell wide 0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:42.879 receiver thoughts on what he what him coming to the 0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.840 team actually means for the wide receiver room. 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.719 Yeah, originally from Akron, Ohio, went to Saint Vincent, Saint Mary, 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.160 went to House State. They they got Lebron James guys. 0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.200 But no, I think it's just uh, it's it's veteran 0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:55.319 experience to add to the room. 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:55.800 I don't. 0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.080 I think this is more so competition for guys like 0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.160 Ryan Flinoyd, j Brooks, and they want they want a 0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.799 veteran that can kind of be in that mix. Think 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:08.640 of this as like a wide receiver three slash four 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.879 competition and Campbell's kind of in that mix. This does 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.839 not stop this team from getting a running back as 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:17.160 early as pick twelve receiver draft excuse me, receiver receiver 0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.680 my bad, Yeah, receiver as early as pick twelve in 0:35:19.680 --> 0:35:20.120 this draft. 0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:22.920 Yeah, practice is, as we all know, or long, and 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:24.719 there's a lot of running involved and you need a 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.640 lot of wide receivers to get through practice. And this 0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:30.600 is one of those opportunities a veteran guy. You'll play 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.879 some preseason games, You'll have a veteran player out there. 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:35.960 You might have to be in a situation too where 0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:39.680 you're trying to evaluate maybe you do draft a young 0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.799 quarterback and he's going to have to play in those 0:35:41.840 --> 0:35:44.799 preseason games. You want a veteran guy out there that 0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:47.359 knows what he's doing. And so this is exactly what 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:47.880 this is. 0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:47.960 It. 0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:48.759 Nick's right. 0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.520 It doesn't keep you from doing anything else in your 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:53.400 draft plans for wide receivers. 0:35:53.920 --> 0:36:01.600 Okay, I'm gonna wait rating real fast neutral sad. 0:36:01.719 --> 0:36:04.719 Honestly, I thought even if you were trying to add 0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:06.480 veteran experience to like the depth of that room, I 0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:07.279 could have done better. 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:07.920 But we'll see. 0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:08.200 Yeah. 0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:12.200 Agree, We're gonna run through these guys a little quicker 0:36:12.239 --> 0:36:15.440 because we still hopefully we can finish before the end 0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:19.720 of the show. We got another defensive end, Peyton Turner. 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:24.719 He signed. Okay, why I. 0:36:24.719 --> 0:36:26.799 Tell you what I think that with Peyton Turner is 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:29.120 that to me, I like Peyton Turner because I like 0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:30.960 the length that he plays with, I like the range 0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.399 he plays with. I think he plays the run very 0:36:33.520 --> 0:36:35.359 very well. And I think there's a guy that you know, 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.480 he's kind of like what we call that five technique, 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.640 that head up end that could kind of two gap 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:41.920 look inside, look outside. 0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:44.000 But I like the way that this guy plays. 0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:45.640 The run, and I think when they run the ball 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.160 at him, he's very capable of getting off blocks and 0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.880 making plays. He's not a pass rusher. He is not 0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:52.839 a pass rusher at all. There's probably one or two 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.480 snaps where you could see him rush the passer and 0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:57.480 you're like, Okay, I get it, but he is not. 0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:00.279 He's a much better run player. But I do like 0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.680 the fact that they got a guy that could play 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.000 on the edge. That kind of takes over the role 0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:06.400 of what Golston did for you. 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:07.799 Yeah, I like that. 0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.719 You just hope he can stay healthy, and that's been 0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.520 the big thing in his career. In his first three 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.879 seasons he only played fifteen games, missed a lot of time, 0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:19.960 but last year he played sixteen games for the Saints 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:24.640 and mostly rotational work. Former first round pick coming out 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:27.000 of Houston was a really good run defender for the 0:37:27.080 --> 0:37:30.120 Cougars in his college time. Now back in the lone 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:33.520 Star State. So I'll tell you what, there is a 0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.000 lot of optimism about Peyton Turner talking to people in 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:36.440 this building. 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:40.120 So we'll see how that manifests. How are you feeling neutral. 0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:44.560 Thank you, I'll go smiley because I think he brings 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:45.880 something to play a run defense. 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.920 Yeah yeah, okay, next one up, we have Robert Jones. 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.719 He's an offensive lineman that is coming from the Dolphins. 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.719 He signs here and this is a topic that we've 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.399 talked about. While we know that the old line still 0:37:58.440 --> 0:38:01.960 needs work there, what does it bring to the table 0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:02.560 and how. 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.280 Is he right now in his career. 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.160 We talked to him yesterday and it kind of gave 0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:10.839 me a little bit of a different perspective of what 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.000 I had going into that call, if you will. He 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.640 started seventeen games for the Dolphins last year and it 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.080 was a super valuable experience for him. Didn't do particularly well. 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.680 He grated out as one of the worst guards in 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:26.880 the NFL. Actually that played throughout the season. But prior 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:31.560 to that year, thirteen games of starting experience mostly at 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:36.360 left guard and or excuse me, mostly at right guard. 0:38:36.719 --> 0:38:40.360 Flips to left guard for the Dolphins last year. He 0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:42.560 said his most natural position on that call yesterday, he 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:45.719 said his most natural position is right guard. So you 0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:48.160 know he's going to be competing for that right guard 0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:50.240 spot with brock Hoffman, TJ. 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:50.760 Bass. 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:52.440 You would expect a draft pick to be in the 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.360 middle of all that do they factor Cooper b b 0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:59.400 into that competition too, But I think I'm gonna I'm 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.560 gonna go new until I see what he looks like 0:39:01.600 --> 0:39:02.759 at right guard at training camp. 0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:05.759 Neutral all the way here, and it might be a 0:39:05.920 --> 0:39:08.439 sad face because he might not be better than what 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:09.400 Hoppin and. 0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.480 Others TJ. Bass, So I'm going to keep it neutral 0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:14.719 on that well. 0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.760 And then they also gave another deal for the Koda. 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.960 Shepley and a lot of guys on social media. I 0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:22.040 guess they didn't realize he was like, he's been here 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.480 in Dallas, so they decided to keep him here in Dallas. 0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:28.719 He's a guy that hasn't done a whole lot. But 0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:31.800 I mean, is he just adding depth here at the position? 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.640 I think it's a guy's familiarity. I can't sit there 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.160 and act like that. I know the code of Shepley's 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.759 game is what it's really really all about. But you 0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.520 know the fact that he has been here I believe 0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:46.000 a couple of years now, so you know, it's one 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:47.759 of those things where you got to find a way 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.719 to show up. And they obviously feel good enough about 0:39:50.800 --> 0:39:53.239 him that he's made some progress. We'll see with a 0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:54.960 new line coach. How that works for him? 0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.120 Yeah, special teams guy. Mostly in his last two years, 0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:01.520 he's been activated for seven games. I don't think this 0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.440 factors into the offensive line, not at all. 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:09.160 Neutral face neutral, Yeah, neutral, Okay, next one up? Oh yeah, 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.200 I think that's it, right? Am I missing anybody else? 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.480 Let's see. Yeah, we've gone through. We've gone through all 0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:17.759 of them. 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:19.680 We've gone through everybody. 0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:23.840 Okay, so up to this point and what the Cowboys 0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.160 have done. So now you're gonna give me your kind 0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:31.040 of overall overview based on all your faces, your your. 0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:32.080 Snake is just neutral. 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.640 But what is your overall rating of what the Cowboys 0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:39.080 have currently done in this free agency this year? Personally, 0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:43.320 I think it's been pretty differently different than past previous 0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:46.520 years because you've had more movement happening, at least from 0:40:46.560 --> 0:40:49.080 guys that they've signed from the outside and not just 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.520 signing their own they signed their own, but also brought 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.480 some other people from the outside. Brian, I'll start with you, 0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.560 what's your overall rating for what they've done this year? 0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.600 Critical of this front office, and I've been super critical 0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.120 because I don't believe that they do this. Twenty four 0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:07.680 to seven like they want us to believe. Well, I'm 0:41:07.680 --> 0:41:09.560 gonna give um some credit here. They actually did do 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.160 some twenty four to seven work here. They figured out 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:13.880 that it's going to be about the draft, it's going 0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:15.520 to be about trading, and it's going to be about 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.120 signing free agents. Well, see if the fact that they 0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:19.960 were able to get some guys, I think they maybe 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.560 upgraded a couple spots. I think they probably went neutral 0:41:22.600 --> 0:41:24.839 in a couple spots and maybe not as good as 0:41:24.880 --> 0:41:27.160 some others. But they went out. They did this. They 0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.279 had to do this. They couldn't for the second year 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.520 let depth completely walk out of this building, and they 0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:34.760 made sure of that. So they tried to help themselves 0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:37.320 that way. I don't think this does anything to limit 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:38.839 what they're going to do in the draft. I think 0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:41.480 everything is still on board for them to pick any 0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.400 player that they feel like is good enough for the 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.040 be on this football team. But I will give them credit. 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:50.040 You did it, you did trades, you did free agency, 0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:51.280 and now let's see a draft. 0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:52.120 So good for you. 0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.239 I think the only position that I think there's a 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:57.160 little bit of urgency that you can take away coming 0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.520 out of free agency going into the draft is probably 0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:03.640 linebacker just because you did, I'd run yeah, yeah, And yeah, 0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:05.440 there's there's some urgency that's taken off there, but you 0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:07.560 still need you could I guess more so, I'm saying 0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:09.520 if you took a linebacker in the first two days, yeah, 0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:11.040 that would be a little bit more surprising to me 0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:12.120 than if you took a running back. 0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:12.480 Gotcha. 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.480 But yeah, they they went out and got bodies, and 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:19.120 looking back to last season, they need bodies, and uh, 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.920 that certainly helps. I would have liked to see them 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:26.680 land an offensive weapon for for Dak Prescott, for you know, 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.720 whatever this rookie running back is gonna look like. Obviously 0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.520 for Ceedee Lamb as well, just to kind of be 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.759 that running mate with him. I would like for there 0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.480 to be a second fiddle. But you know, that's that's 0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.640 what the draft is also for. But you'd be putting 0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.200 a lot of pressure on a rookie to to be 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:43.719 able to to to be that. But I would have 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:45.399 maybe liked to have seen that in free agency. That's 0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:49.120 the one thing that I'd I'd come away with still desiring. 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.640 But overall, they went out and got bodies and that's 0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:52.080 what they needed. 0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:53.399 At the end of the If the price comes down 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:56.120 for Keenan Allen, would you consider that one for a 0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:57.000 veteran receiver. 0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:00.360 It kind of gives me the same vibes as Brandon 0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:04.400 Cooks in the sense that how is he in the 0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:07.240 sense that he's he's older, Yeah, and he's been banged 0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.880 up in his time in Chicago. Now, granted, played with Eberflus, 0:43:11.000 --> 0:43:13.800 so there's some experience there. Obviously Ebraflus on the defensi 0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:15.400 side of the balls, it's a little bit different. 0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:15.279 But. 0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:19.440 You'd get me neutral on that for the spirit of 0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:20.200 the conversation. 0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:22.680 Thirty two years old, that's not all. 0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:25.359 Yeah, yeah, but he's got a lot of experience. He's 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:29.520 got a lot of experience. That's like fifty eight in NFL. 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.319 Okay, Well, with that, we end the show. Thank you 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:38.200 so much. We should be back next week. Derek should 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:40.279 be back in the office as well, and we'll keep 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:44.120 talking about whatever other moves happen here and before we 0:43:44.160 --> 0:43:47.200 get there, I know soon, and it's exciting. We you 0:43:47.239 --> 0:43:49.479 guys can visit the website. A lot of these guys 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.560 already talked to the media, so you can get an 0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.000 inside look of kind of how they speak or you know, 0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:59.960 their thoughts coming into the Star and starting their new 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.480 career here in Dallas. Thank you so much, Brian, Brian 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:08.160 Nick as well. This has been the Break on dallascowboys 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.040 dot Com Slash Radio. 0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:13.960 This has been a production of dallascowboys dot com and 0:44:14.080 --> 0:44:17.040 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.