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Derek is out this week, but we'll 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 6: discuss all the moves that the Cowboys have made. 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 7: We haven't had it. 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 6: I don't recall last week us talking about a lot 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 6: of those moves. So today we're just gonna take a 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 6: deep dive and all the changes on the roster at 21 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 6: the moment. See if these guys like it, don't like it, 22 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 6: what is the criticism around that. So we'll start with first. 23 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 7: Of all, the trade that the Cowboys made and helped 24 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 7: me out. 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 6: Nick kayir kyer Elam Kayer Elam Elam. Yeah, cornerback the draft, 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 6: the draft they got the Cowboys got him and a 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 6: six round pick for this year. This draft around and 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 6: they sent a couple of draft picks to the Buffalo Bills. Brian, 29 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 6: I'll start with you with your observation on this guy, 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 6: scouting report on him, and what he brings to the team. 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think when you look at with with Elam, 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 8: they're gonna have to play him as a pressman corner. 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 8: And when you watch him play, when you watched him 34 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 8: come out of Florida, you know, several years ago when 35 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 8: Nick and I were working on the draft show stuff, this, 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 8: these were the types of players that you know that 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 8: that you were you were studying these guys that have 38 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 8: some length to him, that have some size to him. 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 8: This is a this is a nice size corner for 40 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 8: you that could really play press man very very well. 41 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 8: And I think that Buffalo got away from that, and 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 8: there was some questions about whether that Brandon Beam, the 43 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 8: general manager for the Bills, made the pick. And then 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 8: we're the head coach and the general manager on the 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 8: same page when it came to this player. So maybe 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 8: he was fighting out a little bit at Buffalo. But 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 8: I feel like you need to play this guy as 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 8: a pressman corner. Let him get up on you, let him, 49 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 8: let him be able to jam be able to redirect 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 8: move with those with those receivers, because I think that's 51 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 8: something he can do very very well. When you play 52 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 8: him off or in zone coverage, the reactions are not 53 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 8: as good as where I think where it needs to 54 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 8: be so physical, corner got good size. It's going to 55 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 8: be a fresh start for him for the Dallas Cowboys. 56 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 8: So a couple of years ago, a guy that probably 57 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 8: on a lot of people's strap board was probably in 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 8: the top fifty when it came to players. So you know, 59 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 8: one of those things where the Cowboys probably saw him 60 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 8: the same way and hopefully they're playing more press man. 61 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, Brian hit it on the head and mentioning that 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: Brandon being the Bills GM. He was asked about Kaye 63 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 5: last week in availability with the media and why it 64 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: didn't work out. He said, ultimately, it's on me. I 65 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 5: made this selection that didn't work out, and I own that. 66 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 5: You don't want those to happen. But man, I'm rooting 67 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: for Kaye, I really am. 68 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 4: So. 69 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 5: I mean it was a situation where, gosh, I'm forgetting 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: the guy's name who took over his spot, but he 71 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 5: was a six round pick in that same exact draft, 72 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: and he just a Christian. Benford just immediately took over 73 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 5: Kye's job almost immediately as when they were both rookies, 74 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 5: and he just kind of carried that on throughout the 75 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 5: early in their career. So it hasn't really worked out 76 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 5: for Kaye in Buffalo, but coming to Dallas, there's going 77 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 5: to be an opportunity for him to start on the 78 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 5: outside as early as week one. If Trayvon Diggs is 79 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 5: not available to go, they're gonna need someone on the 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 5: outside opposite of Deron Bland. They're also gonna need someone 81 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 5: in the nickel. But there's a lot of work on that. 82 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: Yea, Yeah, there's a. 83 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 5: Lot of problems that corner and just having depth right 84 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 5: now certainly helps. And look, I saw some people on 85 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 5: social media kind of overreacting to like, why would you 86 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: draft this bust? 87 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: He's a first round bust and you gave up nothing 88 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. 89 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 5: I mean, you got a guy who's going to be 90 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 5: on one year rental for you, and if he plays well, 91 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 5: you can sign him to a second contract. It's not 92 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 5: like you're going to activate that fifth year option and 93 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 5: pay him what is it, seventeen million next year? 94 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: You're fine. 95 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 5: It's a cheap guy that you can add depth, and 96 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 5: it's a guy who's gonna get a second chance. 97 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: Second chances sometimes work out too. 98 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, and sometimes, like you say, Brandy Bean even came 99 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 8: out and said it, it's on him. The general manager 100 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 8: saw something in the player and Brandon Bean and we 101 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 8: all agree the Buffalo Bills are a pretty damn good team, 102 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 8: you know. And sometimes as a general manager, you give 103 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 8: a gut feeling about a player and you know it's 104 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 8: a first round. Yeah, that's an expensive way of doing things, 105 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 8: but you know, yeah, the fact that to me that 106 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 8: this player you watched him at Florida and you watched 107 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 8: him and you watch him. 108 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 4: Play at Buffalo. There's some traits and things things that happen, 109 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: you know. 110 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 8: I know that they were at a game against Kansas 111 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 8: City that was really really rough, but you know, this 112 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 8: guy coming in and playing. Though I could say Nick's right, 113 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 8: you know, sometimes people make mistakes. Maybe this guy comes 114 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 8: to a fresh start, a new opportunity, a coaching staff 115 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 8: that kind of believes in him a little bit, and 116 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 8: then you never know what you get out of that. 117 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 8: But this guy's a physical player. You could go back 118 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 8: and watch him in college cover those really good Alabama 119 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 8: receivers and carry those guys all over the field and 120 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 8: make plays and stuff like that. 121 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: So it's a scout I was always taught. 122 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 8: Man. You see that I think will translate. Hopefully that'll 123 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 8: be an opportunity for him. 124 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 6: Here now, as we go along the list of guys, 125 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 6: we're gonna play a little game and I'm gonna put 126 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 6: you guys on the spot. 127 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 7: I just want you to give me your rating. 128 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 6: You know, when you go to the doctor's office and 129 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 6: they have a chart with a smiley face a sad face. 130 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: I hate this. So I'm in paint ambar. 131 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 6: You've got three choices here, Okay, happy face, smiley face, 132 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 6: a neutral face, just a straight up line, horizontal line. 133 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 7: Or a sad face. 134 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 6: So for this one, this uh considering, taking into consideration 135 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 6: what you gave up for this guy and everything that 136 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 6: it involves. 137 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 7: Where would you rate this move for the Cowboys? 138 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: Neutral? 139 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 7: Neutral? 140 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 8: I think neutral right now, you know, but hopefully they 141 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 8: play him the right way and then it turns into 142 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 8: a happy face. 143 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 4: But I'm going to go neutral on it as well. 144 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 7: Okay, perfect. 145 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 6: So the next trade that the Cowboys made not too 146 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 6: long after that first one was they traded for Kenneth Murray. 147 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 6: He's a linebacker, and this trade happened with the Tennessee Titans. 148 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 6: They also got a pick from the Titans as well. 149 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 6: What do you take into this? Do you like this guy? 150 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 9: Nick? 151 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 6: I know there's a we know the need at linebacker 152 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 6: currently for the Cowboys, knowing with overshown and all and 153 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 6: his injury, how do you rate this pick? 154 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 5: Yeah? This is uh, this is certainly an interesting one. 155 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 5: And when it came down I guess that was last Wednesday, 156 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, wow, this is this is an 157 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 5: interesting move. I I kind of adding on to what 158 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: I was saying earlier about social media being an upheaval 159 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 5: about these trades. It is like, essentially, you took one 160 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 5: of your fifth round picks and moved it to the 161 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 5: seventh round, and you added two players that can start 162 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 5: for you this year. I don't think that's a bad 163 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 5: move at the end of the day. 164 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: And there was. 165 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 5: Some Day three, twenty twenty six cheese involved, but it 166 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 5: wasn't anything major. And when you add a guy like 167 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 5: Kenneth Murray, who has the experience that he has, he 168 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 5: comes off being a team captain in Tennessee last year. 169 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 5: He can control your defense if he needs to. It's 170 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 5: a smart player to have involved. This is This is 171 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 5: not a bad move in my eyes. Now, granted, is 172 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 5: he the best linebacker you could have traded for. No, 173 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 5: that's why he only cost a fifth or sixth round pick, 174 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 5: whatever it was. I think there's some instincts in the 175 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 5: run game that he might have to he might have 176 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 5: to be addressed with with Matt Eberflus. But you know, 177 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 5: Ebraflus has done a really good job in developing linebackers 178 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 5: throughout his time. Now, Murray's been in the league for 179 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: four or five years. Now, you know how much development 180 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 5: quote unquote does he have left? Can he teach an 181 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 5: old dog new tricks? The guy is twenty six years 182 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 5: I think there is still still some development left in 183 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 5: his game. But he's a hard hitter, he's a thumper. 184 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 5: I like this move. I don't think he's a long 185 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 5: term starter here in Dallas, but I think he's a 186 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: guy that can give you more than enough flexibility for 187 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 5: Demarvey and Overshowing to come off of his injury, more 188 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 5: than enough flexibility. If Jack Sanborn might not be ready 189 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 5: to command a defense early on this is a guy 190 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: you want to have involved. I mean, experience really pays 191 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: off in this league, and he's got it. 192 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 193 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 8: I totally agree with what Nick saying here. And you know, 194 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 8: to me, there's this group when they went into the 195 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 8: free agency process, we were talking about linebackers, were thinking about, Hey, 196 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 8: positions that maybe I know in the draft show positions 197 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 8: you might double dip. My linebacker surely was one of 198 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 8: those those areas that we were focusing on. But to 199 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 8: go out and get a guy like Murray, and you know, 200 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 8: I'm gonna say this, the physicality that he plays with 201 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 8: I think is impressive, The toughness that he plays with. 202 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 8: You know, yeah, is he perfect in coverage? No, not 203 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 8: all the time. But when you start to talk about 204 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 8: playing run defense, and and and filling in the in 205 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 8: the hole, and and and getting to the outside and 206 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 8: playing with a little little range, a little link to it, 207 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 8: I think that you could have done far worse here. 208 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 8: So I'm with Nick on this one. I Uh, is 209 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 8: he is he a starter? Could he be a starter? 210 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? 211 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 8: He can absolutely be start. He's proven places where he's been. 212 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 8: He was a starter at the Chargers, he was a 213 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 8: starter at Tennessee, you know, we've seen what they did, uh, 214 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 8: you know last year, you know with with Eric Kendricks, 215 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 8: and you know, hopefully you get the same kind of 216 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 8: results that you get a guy that that comes in 217 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 8: in this physical and makes plays and and you know, 218 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 8: and and brings an element of toughness to your game. 219 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 6: And with that, they added another linebacker and make mentioned 220 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 6: him Jack Sandborg. This was a one year deal from 221 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 6: the Bears. That's where he played. What are some of 222 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 6: the differences that you see there and the type of 223 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 6: player between the Well. 224 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 8: And the Bears are the Bears have got a good 225 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 8: group of linebackers. I felt like you know that they 226 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 8: they were they were Sandborn. What's surprising to me is 227 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 8: he was less than a million dollar player and they 228 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 8: let him walk. They didn't tender him. So you know, 229 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 8: he was able to kind of you know, Dallas jumped 230 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 8: in there really really quick on it and was able 231 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 8: to get that done. You know, probably with a little 232 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 8: bit of influence from Matt Eberflus. But you watch this 233 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 8: guy play. Here's a guy that has a. 234 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: Real nose for the football. 235 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 8: I mean, he's the tackles are there that it's rare 236 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 8: that you see linebackers that undercut blocks, and I mean 237 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 8: go dip underneath the block and then get back into 238 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 8: the play like Samborne is able to do. He played 239 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 8: as an outside linebacker, he could play an inside linebacker. 240 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 8: I think there's that element to him. I probably play 241 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 8: him on the inside more myself. But man, I'll tell 242 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 8: you what though. He is a guy that he's got 243 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 8: a nose for the ball, he has a feeling for 244 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 8: how to play blocks, He's got linked he could get 245 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 8: off blocks. To me, you could have say it again, 246 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 8: you could have done far worse with you know, going on. 247 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 8: I think the Pro department here might have found a guy. 248 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 8: I'm if you play the happy face game and all that, 249 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 8: I would be happy. I would be smiling face on 250 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 8: this one. I think they did a pretty good job 251 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 8: of finding a guy. 252 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, before we move on to u Nick speaking of 253 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 6: how really messed up the game. But for Murray, what's 254 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 6: your rating? 255 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 8: I tell you what, I think, I'm a happy face 256 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 8: happy face because they think of the physicality that he 257 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 8: plays with the toughness that he plays with. Both these 258 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 8: players or guys are happy face for me because you 259 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 8: know they were in on the Drake greenlawal nic will 260 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 8: tell you this. They were in on that green Law 261 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 8: made a decision to go elsewhere. They were trying their 262 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 8: best to make that and that would have been a 263 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 8: great signing right there, but they kind of pivoted rallied 264 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 8: and I think they did okay. And at these two 265 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 8: that they've done. 266 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to give neutral for both. 267 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 5: We'll see how they fare on the field, but I 268 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 5: think both of these editions are had the potential to 269 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: be really strong for that linebacking corps. They need that 270 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 5: depth and they bring experience along with it. 271 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 6: And do you have a different perspective on Sanborn or what. 272 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, for scond Born, I think it's it's certainly going 273 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: to help kind of transition this defense into the Eberflus era. 274 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 5: I mean you think back last year, I mean the 275 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 5: Cowboys only the two outside signings, and one of them 276 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 5: was Eric Kendricks. Mike Zimmer wanted to go get his guys. 277 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 5: He had this on field bridge, if you will, to 278 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 5: help usher in this new system during training camp and 279 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 5: then throughout the season, have a guy that he can 280 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 5: trust to be the lead communicator. Now, Jack Sanborn doesn't 281 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 5: have the experience that Eric Hendricks had coming into Dallas, obviously, 282 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 5: but he's going to kind of serve that same purpose 283 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 5: in the sense that he already knows the system. He's 284 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 5: a great communicator, He's been a leader of a defense 285 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 5: before in an eber flu system. He's going to be 286 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 5: the guy that a lot of people come to with questions. 287 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 5: And that was one of the questions I had for 288 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 5: him yesterday when he did a conference call with the media. 289 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, you know, a lot of guys 290 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 5: are going to come to you because you are the 291 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 5: one who knows it. You are the one who's been 292 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 5: inside of it for three years. And so he said, 293 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: it's about flying around, having an aggressive mindset and getting downhill. 294 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 5: But everybody has a job. He's really big into that 295 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 5: making sure that not only you know your job, you 296 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 5: know why you're doing your job, and by doing your job. 297 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: What that leads to for other people. 298 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 5: And he said, I'm willing to do anything to help 299 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: everyone else learn. At the end of the day, we're 300 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 5: in this together as one. There's going to be competition 301 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: in that linebacker room. But just talking to Jack Sanbourne yesterday, 302 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 5: I get the sense that he's going to be helping 303 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 5: everyone out in that linebacker room. 304 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 6: Well, it's like titing to see some of these changes 305 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 6: and what is actually going to look like once they 306 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 6: start training together and we go to training camp and 307 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 6: start seeing them, uh transform this defense into something different. Now, 308 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 6: staying on the defensive side of the ball, they also 309 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 6: signed Solomon Thomas, a defensive tackle who is coming from 310 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 6: the New York Jets. He played over there. What are 311 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 6: your scouting report on this player? 312 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: Versatile? 313 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: He's going to play in some different roles for you, 314 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 5: And yeah, we're just gonna come right back to the conversation. 315 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: That's the conversation. He is versatile. 316 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 5: He's a guy that probably factors in more so as 317 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 5: the backup three tech for Osa Digizua on rotational downs, 318 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 5: but I think he's also a guy that could play 319 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 5: some one tech on some passing downs because because he 320 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 5: can get into the backfield, he has experience with defensive 321 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: line coach Aaron Whitecott and going back to their time 322 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 5: with the Jets, and he can get to the quarterback 323 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 5: if asked to do so. He's a Kapel guy. So 324 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 5: back in DFW, I I always love when that happens. 325 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: And really good dude, he's he's really active in the community. 326 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 5: If you look up a year from now and he's 327 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: this team's Walter Payton nominee, then I wouldn't be surprised 328 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 5: at all. 329 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, he. 330 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 8: Talked about when coach Whitecotton got the job that that 331 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 8: might be a possibility. 332 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: Because he did. He played very well. 333 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 8: You know, we'll see what about the run defense stuff 334 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 8: and how that goes for him. I'm not totally I'm 335 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 8: not discouraging that at all. He got a lot out 336 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 8: of coach white Kott got a lot out of him 337 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 8: as a pass rusher. And I think Nick's absolutely right. 338 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 8: You play him at the three technique and let him 339 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 8: be the backup guy, let him play the one sum 340 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 8: in the nickel with him and os inside man, you 341 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 8: get two pretty active guys right there. Last year, it 342 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 8: just didn't seem like that in the defensive tackle spot 343 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 8: that they had guys inside that were able to rotate 344 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 8: at that three. Give you some pass rush. This this 345 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 8: to me that I believe like this is an upgrade. 346 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 8: You got a guy that can rush the passers I've 347 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 8: mentioned you got to back up for Osa, and you've 348 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 8: got a guy that has some experience, and the and 349 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 8: the and you got a coach here now that got 350 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 8: the absolute best at him. I think this is a 351 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 8: really good combination for them. 352 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 6: I love everything you guys are saying so rated with 353 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 6: a little smiley face. Negas is your first smiley face. 354 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say neutral, You're gonna You're gonna hate me 355 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: in this game. 356 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 5: So you're going neutral with because a smiley face for 357 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 5: me would be going and getting Cooper cup last. 358 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: You know what, I've been going and getting Stu fun. 359 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 6: But as soon as I asked you about this guy, yeah, 360 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 6: you answered started answering with a smile on your face. 361 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I'm a happy guy. I just be smiling. 362 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 6: You reacted differently than the other Yeah, I just I 363 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 6: just be smiling. 364 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 8: I'm I will smile because the reasons I talked about, 365 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 8: because of the the three technique stuff, they just felt 366 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 8: like they didn't have somebody that could play behind Osa, 367 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 8: that you could really really rely on. So I give 368 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 8: them props. 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Thoughts on this move? 446 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 5: Can I propose a question to you, Brian, go ahead? 447 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 5: Israel mcuamu Kayir Elam? One of them gets the start 448 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 5: on in week one? You can only pick one of 449 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 5: I know there's two up in spots, but there's only 450 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 5: one of them. 451 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: Let's say it's for. 452 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 5: Outside corner obviously, Yeah, who do you think is it? 453 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 8: I think they would probably start Izzy there. Me personally, 454 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 8: I think I would start Elm. I just think that 455 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 8: I think that. 456 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 4: To me that Elam. 457 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 8: I think I think in training camp, we're gonna really 458 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 8: like the physicality that he plays with. And we'll see. 459 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 8: But I would say that they would is he is 460 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 8: he is, He's a good player for them. I mean, 461 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 8: he's done a good job you remember, I mean the 462 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 8: nickel that he the nickel job he did against Tampa 463 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 8: in a playoff game. You know that can't go unnoticed. 464 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 8: Right now, I think he's one of those guys that 465 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 8: are kind of trying to find a spot for him. 466 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 8: But I would, I would say they would probably start him. 467 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 8: But I think elm is going to that's a terrible 468 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 8: answer because I'm riding the fence on that, But I would. 469 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 8: I would think they would start Izzy in that opening game. 470 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 5: Kim mcwalmo would be, you're starting Nickel throughout the season? 471 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 5: Seventeen games? 472 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 6: Is? 473 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 5: I think there's some fans who want it to happen. Yeah, 474 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 5: I think it's realistic. 475 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 8: Why am I thinking about guys that at Kansas State 476 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 8: and a guy at Louisville and a guy at you 477 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 8: know other places. I'm thinking about North Carolina, Hussey I'm 478 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 8: thinking about I'm thinking about Nichols that they could draft 479 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 8: that I know could play Nickel off the jump. And 480 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 8: now I talked about is he. I mean, you can't 481 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 8: discount what he did in that game. You can't. 482 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if for seventeen games I could go there? 483 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 7: Yeah, what are you? What's your answer to your own question. 484 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, because I don't think he can go 485 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 5: seventeen games throughout the season. 486 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, what's the rating Neutrals eighth neutral? 487 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 8: Okay, always, Yeah, I think I'm neutral on this one because, 488 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 8: like I said, my running back at my cornerboard's pretty deep. 489 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 8: I'd like to see them address this position with maybe 490 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 8: a couple of those guys. 491 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 6: All right, well, Brian, you got the timeline right, because 492 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 6: the next guy is a running back over here. The 493 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 6: Cowboys got Miles Sanders, who's formerly has played in the. 494 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 7: Past for the Eagles. 495 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 6: I think that's where most people kind of recognize him 496 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 6: from during his timeline there. And again we've heard about 497 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 6: the changes at the running back room and what they're 498 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 6: trying to do here and build this year. What are 499 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 6: your thoughts on a player like this Miles Sanders. 500 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 5: I'm going to I'm going to pair him with Javonte 501 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 5: Williams in this conversation just because I get idea. They 502 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 5: I think they kind of run, no pun intendent. I 503 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 5: think they run a lot in the sense, both of 504 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 5: these guys being veterans in the room that you bring in, 505 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 5: you're expected to use, expected to use a premium pick 506 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 5: at the running back position. Premium pick, meaning first couple 507 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: of days in the draft, you're expected to draft a 508 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 5: running back. This is a really deep running back class, 509 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 5: and if you grab a guy in the third round, 510 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 5: you're probably gonna get a pretty talented guy. He's going 511 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 5: to be a young guy coming into this room with 512 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 5: Javonte Williams, who's a really good pass catcher and a 513 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 5: really good pass protector, and then Miles Sanders, who has 514 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 5: experience and can also get out of the backfield as well. 515 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 5: So that's going to be immediate competition in that room 516 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 5: once they get to training camp. We talked to Javonte 517 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 5: Williams yesterday, the media did, and the expectation that has 518 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 5: been set for him by the coaches is be ready 519 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 5: to compete because there's going to be an open starting job, 520 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 5: ready ready to go in training camp. So it's not 521 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 5: going to be hey, we draft r J. Harvey, Hey, 522 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 5: this team drafts DJ Giddens or whatever in the third round, 523 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 5: that guy is going to be the starter. It's going 524 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 5: to be, hey, that rookie is going to compete with 525 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 5: Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders for this starting position. If 526 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 5: you're asking me about Miles Sanders specifically, I think he's 527 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 5: comfortably third in that position, and we don't even have 528 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 5: a rookie to place in the mix right now. Just 529 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 5: because his time in Carolina was not good. 530 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: You look at the. 531 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 5: Yards per carry, rush yards expected over average, I mean, 532 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 5: it was not It was not a good time in 533 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 5: Carolina for him. He got passed up by Chewba Hubbard. 534 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 5: As soon as Jonathan Brooks came off of his knee injury, 535 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 5: he was immediately a replace for Miles Sanders. So I 536 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 5: think I think Miles Sanders is going to be working 537 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 5: behind the eight ball a little bit, but having that 538 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 5: veteran experience in the running back room will certainly help well. 539 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 6: Since and we can't talk about what's going to happen 540 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 6: in the future, we don't know who there might draft 541 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 6: at the running back position. But looking at what they 542 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 6: currently have at the moment versus what they used to have, 543 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 6: what are some of the similarities or differences in the 544 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 6: running style that the Cowboys previously had versus what these 545 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 6: two guys bring to the table. 546 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 8: They got worse. They actually got worse. You know, if 547 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 8: you look at overall, and here's this is where this was. 548 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 8: This is the concerning thing to me is that they 549 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 8: went out and hired to code. The best thing they've 550 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 8: done for the running game so far is hire two coaches. 551 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 8: They haven't helped the running game at all, to be 552 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 8: honest with you, you know, And like I said, I 553 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 8: think Williams can catch the ball well. I think he 554 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 8: blocks very well. I think Miles Sanders is done, I 555 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 8: really really do. And you know, Ducevon we've seen Duce 556 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 8: Fond can't play special teams and that hurts his availability 557 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 8: on game day. And then Malik Davis is a guy 558 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 8: that's kind of just been here and had chances and 559 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 8: really hasn't capitalized on the chances. That room's a mess. 560 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 8: And you know, to me, I would have, honestly, I 561 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 8: would have I would have double dipped that position. I 562 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 8: think the draft is deepen up where you could have 563 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 8: got a guy, say hi enough, I'm not saying you 564 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 8: have to get a guy in the first round, but 565 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 8: if you got a guy in the second round and 566 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 8: a guy in a fifth round, I think Nick would 567 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 8: agree with me. This running back room, or this running 568 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 8: back draft stretch is pretty deep, you know, to me. 569 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 8: So you know, you talk about wanting to run the ball. 570 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 8: You show, but you make a commitment by the which 571 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 8: is that you hired. You didn't help yourself particularly well 572 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 8: with these two backs that you just signed. I think 573 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 8: that's still a big, big, red blinking light for this 574 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 8: football team. 575 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: The two things I want to bring up. 576 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 5: One, whenever they did sign Miles Sanders, you mentioned duce 577 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 5: Vaughan Brian. Yeah, that's that's a guy who this training 578 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 5: camp is probably the last opportunity for Ducefan. They're gonna 579 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 5: give him that training camp shot one hundred percent, but 580 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 5: he's going to have to prove that he's worthy of 581 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: a starting spot. And he's battled injury in each of 582 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 5: his first two camps. So maybe, you know, just staying 583 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 5: healthy might be the biggest thing for Ducewan, you know, 584 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 5: being able to show that he has something in the 585 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 5: receiving game. Who knows, maybe this Schottenheimer offense helps him 586 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 5: out a little bit more. But having two veterans in 587 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 5: the room expected to have a rookie in the room, 588 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 5: it's it's kind of spelling that that duce Vaughn's leash 589 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 5: is running up. The other thing I want to bring 590 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: up is them signing two veteran running backs. I'm afraid, Brian, 591 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 5: that we're going to be sitting in this room on 592 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 5: Day three of the draft. 593 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there is. 594 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 5: Still not a running back on this team, which again 595 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 5: we've talked about. This running back class is deep. You 596 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 5: can get a guy in the fifth round who could compete, sure, 597 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 5: but I don't I don't know if you want to 598 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 5: bank on No. 599 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 8: No, I mean, and I think you're right, but but please, don't, 600 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 8: you know, don't you know, pee on me and tell 601 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 8: me it's raining outside, you know, don't don't don't tell 602 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 8: me that. Don't tell me you're committed to running the 603 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 8: football and all that and not address that thing in 604 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 8: the first three rounds, you know, don't don't do that. 605 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: Neither of these guys are early down. 606 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 4: No, not at all. 607 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 5: Either of these guys are the guy fifteen minutes, first quarter, 608 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 5: just play the game. 609 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: Hand it off to him. He's going to get you 610 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: eight years. Neither of these guys. 611 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 4: Are you go you know you you you swapped out. 612 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 8: And maybe maybe the Rico daddle, maybe he overplayed his hand, 613 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 8: maybe he overplayed I don't, I don't know, I don't 614 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 8: know what happened with Rico Daddle maybe, you know, I 615 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 8: don't know if it's the Cowboys thought he was going 616 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 8: to get more money or Rico Daddle thought he was 617 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 8: going to get more money. But to me that when 618 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 8: that that that that was a mistake. I think on 619 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,719 Speaker 8: both sides right there, you know, until somebody tells me different. 620 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 8: But like I said, don't tell me you're going to 621 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 8: be committed to running game and try and be better 622 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 8: at it and load up with what your go with 623 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 8: what you got right now, that is not going to 624 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 8: get it done. 625 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: Funny enough, I was. 626 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: I flew up to the Northeast this past weekend and 627 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 5: I had a layover in Charlotte. So my first flight 628 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 5: was DFW to Charlotte, and first class on my flight 629 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: is ric O'dowdell and I caught him coming off the 630 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 5: plane and he just looked super excited to be back home. 631 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 5: He sounded super excited to be back home, So I 632 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 5: wonder how much that factored into it. At the end 633 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 5: of the day, he didn't have a ton of time, 634 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 5: but we caught it for maybe twenty seconds, and being 635 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 5: back in Charlotte it is a big deal for him. 636 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 5: He's like, Yeah, I'm from Ashville. I grew up, you know, 637 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 5: thirty minutes away. It's it's really good to be back. 638 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 5: So I you know, you factor that in, and you 639 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 5: factor that that room is already pretty crowded in Carolina. 640 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 5: I think the hometown thing was bigger for Rico Dawdle 641 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 5: than maybe what was realized. But coming back to this team, 642 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 5: Javonte Williams, I think could be a great running back 643 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 5: too that you almost get me to smile on Givanta 644 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 5: will you might almost. Yeah, I think it'd be a 645 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 5: phenomenal complimentary especially at this stage in his career. He's 646 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 5: still only twenty four years old. He's got experience, He's 647 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 5: shown that he's come back off that ACL injury that 648 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 5: he suffered in his second season. He's a guy that 649 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 5: could pass protect. He can get out of the backfield 650 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 5: and help you in the passing game. 651 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: Absolutely, but you can't. He's not an RB one, he's 652 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: an I. 653 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 6: Agree, Okay, So I clearly, based on everything you said, Brian, 654 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 6: we get like a frown face, mad face of a 655 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 6: here even. 656 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 4: Round face there. 657 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, and they're gonna have an opportunity and 658 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 8: if and it's going to be even more of a 659 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 8: frown face if Nick's right about that, they wait three 660 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 8: time though. Even though I think there's some running backs there, 661 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 8: I do. I think there's some fourth fifth running backs 662 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 8: there that I mean, I think I've studied twenty five 663 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 8: of them, and I'm they're all very capable players. 664 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 6: Well, hopefully we are. The running back story changes this year. 665 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 6: We'll see what happens after the draft and we'll discuss 666 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 6: once again this running back room and the guys that 667 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 6: hopefully somebody one or two at least draft it. We'll see, 668 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 6: we'll see what happens there. But let's take our for 669 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 6: our final break. 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That's how we'd like it. 730 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 7: All right, let's move on, don't Fowler. 731 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 6: He's a defensive end. You guys should be familiar with him. 732 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 6: He's been here before and now he comes back once 733 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 6: again to be here and join this defense. Where is 734 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 6: he at right now in his career? And are you 735 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 6: guys happy with this decision to bring him back? 736 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 4: You know? 737 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 5: And Bart, you're gonna get me a smile with this one. 738 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 5: For a couple of For a couple of reasons. One 739 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 5: the sense that they they went out and were aggressive 740 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 5: in getting another pass rusher opposite of Miles Miles Micah Parsons, 741 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 5: my goodness, once they realized that DeMarcus Larns was not 742 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 5: going to be back in the fold, so going and 743 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 5: getting a running mate for Micah on those passing downs, 744 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 5: and especially a violent athletic guy like Dante Fowler coming 745 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 5: off the season that he had in Washington. It's kind 746 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 5: of a career resurgence for him that he had in 747 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: DC ten and a half sacks. I thought he was 748 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 5: snubbed for the Pro Bowl. I thought he was a 749 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 5: guy that would have been a shoe in a couple 750 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 5: of force fumbles, fourteen tackles for loss, and this guy 751 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 5: he did a lot for the Commander's defense last year 752 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 5: and mostly rotational work, and so I think he's going 753 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 5: to have a starting opportunity here. You get me to 754 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 5: smile because of that. Secondly, you get me to smile 755 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 5: because they signed a contract more than six million dollars. 756 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 5: Granted it's six million dollar base, but it's worth up 757 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 5: to eight million dollars. This is the richest annual free 758 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 5: agent deal that they've signed in ten years. So Greg Hardy, Yes, 759 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 5: since Greg Hardy. So hopefully it pans out a little 760 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 5: bit better than that one. And Dante Fowler can bring 761 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 5: some pass rush to this team. 762 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what. 763 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 7: I like this one too, And I'm even me smiling. 764 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah see, you know this. 765 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 4: Is smile this guy. 766 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 8: If you go back and watch him play for the Commanders, 767 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 8: you know, he did a really fine job. I know 768 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 8: people have some questions about his ability to defend the run. 769 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 8: I thought he got better at that. There were some 770 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 8: times where you know, you watched him and blockers tried 771 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 8: to get up on him and he was able to 772 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 8: like to shed those guys to chase the ball. I 773 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 8: was I was happy to see that for him. He's 774 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 8: he's he's like I said, I think that here later 775 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 8: in his career, things are kind of going in the 776 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 8: right direction for him. And the pass rush of the sacks, 777 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 8: the ability to play in the twist game. You know, 778 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 8: you need somebody opposite Micah And I'll tell you what, 779 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 8: you got a guy that can. They can they can 780 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 8: create pressure and he can also get sacked. So, you know, 781 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 8: good for the team for forgetting that done. That that 782 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 8: that was a good get for them. 783 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 7: All right. 784 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 6: Next guy up is another guy that's coming up from 785 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 6: the feely Philadelphia Egel's coming up with a super Bowl. 786 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 6: But still this is the guy that a lot of 787 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 6: people have criticized as far as the fans like on 788 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 6: social media, because he doesn't have a ton of really 789 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 6: good experience on the record. He he's Perris Campbell wide 790 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,879 Speaker 6: receiver thoughts on what he what him coming to the 791 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 6: team actually means for the wide receiver room. 792 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, originally from Akron, Ohio, went to Saint Vincent, Saint Mary, 793 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 5: went to House State. They they got Lebron James guys. 794 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 5: But no, I think it's just uh, it's it's veteran 795 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 5: experience to add to the room. 796 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't. 797 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 5: I think this is more so competition for guys like 798 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 5: Ryan Flinoyd, j Brooks, and they want they want a 799 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 5: veteran that can kind of be in that mix. Think 800 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 5: of this as like a wide receiver three slash four 801 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 5: competition and Campbell's kind of in that mix. This does 802 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 5: not stop this team from getting a running back as 803 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 5: early as pick twelve receiver draft excuse me, receiver receiver 804 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 5: my bad, Yeah, receiver as early as pick twelve in 805 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 5: this draft. 806 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, practice is, as we all know, or long, and 807 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 8: there's a lot of running involved and you need a 808 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 8: lot of wide receivers to get through practice. And this 809 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 8: is one of those opportunities a veteran guy. You'll play 810 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 8: some preseason games, You'll have a veteran player out there. 811 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 8: You might have to be in a situation too where 812 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 8: you're trying to evaluate maybe you do draft a young 813 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 8: quarterback and he's going to have to play in those 814 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 8: preseason games. You want a veteran guy out there that 815 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 8: knows what he's doing. And so this is exactly what 816 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 8: this is. 817 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 6: It. 818 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 4: Nick's right. 819 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 8: It doesn't keep you from doing anything else in your 820 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 8: draft plans for wide receivers. 821 00:35:53,920 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna wait rating real fast neutral sad. 822 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 5: Honestly, I thought even if you were trying to add 823 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 5: veteran experience to like the depth of that room, I 824 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 5: could have done better. 825 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: But we'll see. 826 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 827 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 6: Agree, We're gonna run through these guys a little quicker 828 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 6: because we still hopefully we can finish before the end 829 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 6: of the show. We got another defensive end, Peyton Turner. 830 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 7: He signed. Okay, why I. 831 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 8: Tell you what I think that with Peyton Turner is 832 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 8: that to me, I like Peyton Turner because I like 833 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 8: the length that he plays with, I like the range 834 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 8: he plays with. I think he plays the run very 835 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 8: very well. And I think there's a guy that you know, 836 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 8: he's kind of like what we call that five technique, 837 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 8: that head up end that could kind of two gap 838 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 8: look inside, look outside. 839 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 4: But I like the way that this guy plays. 840 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 8: The run, and I think when they run the ball 841 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 8: at him, he's very capable of getting off blocks and 842 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 8: making plays. He's not a pass rusher. He is not 843 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 8: a pass rusher at all. There's probably one or two 844 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 8: snaps where you could see him rush the passer and 845 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 8: you're like, Okay, I get it, but he is not. 846 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 8: He's a much better run player. But I do like 847 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 8: the fact that they got a guy that could play 848 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 8: on the edge. That kind of takes over the role 849 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 8: of what Golston did for you. 850 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. 851 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 5: You just hope he can stay healthy, and that's been 852 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 5: the big thing in his career. In his first three 853 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 5: seasons he only played fifteen games, missed a lot of time, 854 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 5: but last year he played sixteen games for the Saints 855 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 5: and mostly rotational work. Former first round pick coming out 856 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 5: of Houston was a really good run defender for the 857 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 5: Cougars in his college time. Now back in the lone 858 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 5: Star State. So I'll tell you what, there is a 859 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 5: lot of optimism about Peyton Turner talking to people in 860 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:36,440 Speaker 5: this building. 861 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that manifests. How are you feeling neutral. 862 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 8: Thank you, I'll go smiley because I think he brings 863 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 8: something to play a run defense. 864 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, okay, next one up, we have Robert Jones. 865 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 6: He's an offensive lineman that is coming from the Dolphins. 866 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 6: He signs here and this is a topic that we've 867 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,399 Speaker 6: talked about. While we know that the old line still 868 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 6: needs work there, what does it bring to the table 869 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 6: and how. 870 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 7: Is he right now in his career. 871 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 5: We talked to him yesterday and it kind of gave 872 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 5: me a little bit of a different perspective of what 873 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 5: I had going into that call, if you will. He 874 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 5: started seventeen games for the Dolphins last year and it 875 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 5: was a super valuable experience for him. Didn't do particularly well. 876 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 5: He grated out as one of the worst guards in 877 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 5: the NFL. Actually that played throughout the season. But prior 878 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 5: to that year, thirteen games of starting experience mostly at 879 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 5: left guard and or excuse me, mostly at right guard. 880 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 5: Flips to left guard for the Dolphins last year. He 881 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 5: said his most natural position on that call yesterday, he 882 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 5: said his most natural position is right guard. So you 883 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 5: know he's going to be competing for that right guard 884 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 5: spot with brock Hoffman, TJ. 885 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 4: Bass. 886 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 5: You would expect a draft pick to be in the 887 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 5: middle of all that do they factor Cooper b b 888 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 5: into that competition too, But I think I'm gonna I'm 889 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 5: gonna go new until I see what he looks like 890 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 5: at right guard at training camp. 891 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 8: Neutral all the way here, and it might be a 892 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 8: sad face because he might not be better than what 893 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 8: Hoppin and. 894 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 4: Others TJ. Bass, So I'm going to keep it neutral 895 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 4: on that well. 896 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 6: And then they also gave another deal for the Koda. 897 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 6: Shepley and a lot of guys on social media. I 898 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 6: guess they didn't realize he was like, he's been here 899 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 6: in Dallas, so they decided to keep him here in Dallas. 900 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 6: He's a guy that hasn't done a whole lot. But 901 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 6: I mean, is he just adding depth here at the position? 902 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 8: I think it's a guy's familiarity. I can't sit there 903 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 8: and act like that. I know the code of Shepley's 904 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 8: game is what it's really really all about. But you 905 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 8: know the fact that he has been here I believe 906 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 8: a couple of years now, so you know, it's one 907 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 8: of those things where you got to find a way 908 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 8: to show up. And they obviously feel good enough about 909 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 8: him that he's made some progress. We'll see with a 910 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 8: new line coach. How that works for him? 911 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, special teams guy. Mostly in his last two years, 912 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 5: he's been activated for seven games. I don't think this 913 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 5: factors into the offensive line, not at all. 914 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 6: Neutral face neutral, Yeah, neutral, Okay, next one up? Oh yeah, 915 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 6: I think that's it, right? Am I missing anybody else? 916 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 5: Let's see. Yeah, we've gone through. We've gone through all 917 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 5: of them. 918 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 7: We've gone through everybody. 919 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 6: Okay, so up to this point and what the Cowboys 920 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 6: have done. So now you're gonna give me your kind 921 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 6: of overall overview based on all your faces, your your. 922 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 7: Snake is just neutral. 923 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 6: But what is your overall rating of what the Cowboys 924 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 6: have currently done in this free agency this year? Personally, 925 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 6: I think it's been pretty differently different than past previous 926 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 6: years because you've had more movement happening, at least from 927 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 6: guys that they've signed from the outside and not just 928 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 6: signing their own they signed their own, but also brought 929 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 6: some other people from the outside. Brian, I'll start with you, 930 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 6: what's your overall rating for what they've done this year? 931 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 8: Critical of this front office, and I've been super critical 932 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 8: because I don't believe that they do this. Twenty four 933 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 8: to seven like they want us to believe. Well, I'm 934 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 8: gonna give um some credit here. They actually did do 935 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 8: some twenty four to seven work here. They figured out 936 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 8: that it's going to be about the draft, it's going 937 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 8: to be about trading, and it's going to be about 938 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 8: signing free agents. Well, see if the fact that they 939 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 8: were able to get some guys, I think they maybe 940 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 8: upgraded a couple spots. I think they probably went neutral 941 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 8: in a couple spots and maybe not as good as 942 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 8: some others. But they went out. They did this. They 943 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 8: had to do this. They couldn't for the second year 944 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 8: let depth completely walk out of this building, and they 945 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 8: made sure of that. So they tried to help themselves 946 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 8: that way. I don't think this does anything to limit 947 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 8: what they're going to do in the draft. I think 948 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 8: everything is still on board for them to pick any 949 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 8: player that they feel like is good enough for the 950 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 8: be on this football team. But I will give them credit. 951 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 8: You did it, you did trades, you did free agency, 952 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 8: and now let's see a draft. 953 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 4: So good for you. 954 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 5: I think the only position that I think there's a 955 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 5: little bit of urgency that you can take away coming 956 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 5: out of free agency going into the draft is probably 957 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 5: linebacker just because you did, I'd run yeah, yeah, And yeah, 958 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 5: there's there's some urgency that's taken off there, but you 959 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 5: still need you could I guess more so, I'm saying 960 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 5: if you took a linebacker in the first two days, yeah, 961 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 5: that would be a little bit more surprising to me 962 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 5: than if you took a running back. 963 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 4: Gotcha. 964 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 5: But yeah, they they went out and got bodies, and 965 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 5: looking back to last season, they need bodies, and uh, 966 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 5: that certainly helps. I would have liked to see them 967 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 5: land an offensive weapon for for Dak Prescott, for you know, 968 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 5: whatever this rookie running back is gonna look like. Obviously 969 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 5: for Ceedee Lamb as well, just to kind of be 970 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 5: that running mate with him. I would like for there 971 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 5: to be a second fiddle. But you know, that's that's 972 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 5: what the draft is also for. But you'd be putting 973 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 5: a lot of pressure on a rookie to to be 974 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 5: able to to to be that. But I would have 975 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 5: maybe liked to have seen that in free agency. That's 976 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 5: the one thing that I'd I'd come away with still desiring. 977 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 5: But overall, they went out and got bodies and that's 978 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 5: what they needed. 979 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,399 Speaker 8: At the end of the If the price comes down 980 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 8: for Keenan Allen, would you consider that one for a 981 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 8: veteran receiver. 982 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 5: It kind of gives me the same vibes as Brandon 983 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 5: Cooks in the sense that how is he in the 984 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,240 Speaker 5: sense that he's he's older, Yeah, and he's been banged 985 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 5: up in his time in Chicago. Now, granted, played with Eberflus, 986 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 5: so there's some experience there. Obviously Ebraflus on the defensi 987 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 5: side of the balls, it's a little bit different. 988 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 4: But. 989 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: You'd get me neutral on that for the spirit of 990 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 1: the conversation. 991 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 7: Thirty two years old, that's not all. 992 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he's got a lot of experience. He's 993 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: got a lot of experience. That's like fifty eight in NFL. 994 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 6: Okay, Well, with that, we end the show. Thank you 995 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 6: so much. We should be back next week. Derek should 996 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 6: be back in the office as well, and we'll keep 997 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 6: talking about whatever other moves happen here and before we 998 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 6: get there, I know soon, and it's exciting. We you 999 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,479 Speaker 6: guys can visit the website. A lot of these guys 1000 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,560 Speaker 6: already talked to the media, so you can get an 1001 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 6: inside look of kind of how they speak or you know, 1002 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 6: their thoughts coming into the Star and starting their new 1003 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 6: career here in Dallas. Thank you so much, Brian, Brian 1004 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 6: Nick as well. 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