Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I was walking over to my side of
Speaker 1: the man cave and I overhear Seaton O'Connors say to
Speaker 1: the other Dan Ance, do you think Steve Kerr's overrated?
Speaker 1: And I went, Wow, that's a bomb show. Yeah, seton,
Speaker 1: I think I said, do you think Steve Kerr's overrated
Speaker 1: or underrated? Oh? I didn't hear the under Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said overrated or underrated? If you had to pick one, Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe a pull question. All right, is Steve Kerr underrated
Speaker 1: or overrated? Did you know that he's missed a couple
Speaker 1: of games coaching? Like what other sport can you miss
Speaker 1: a playoff game as a coach or a manager? And
Speaker 1: you go, no big deal, it'll be good Mike Brown
Speaker 1: the interim head coach. But Steve Kerr, Steve Kerr's going
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Now, you might say he
Speaker 1: inherited a pretty good roster. No, you can say he
Speaker 1: inherited a pretty good roster. You got Steph Curry, you
Speaker 1: got Clay Thompson and Draymond Green. Although at the time
Speaker 1: when he got those players, we didn't know that they
Speaker 1: were going to turn out to be hold of famers.
Speaker 1: I think there was still a question mark with Steph
Speaker 1: Curry with his ankle, is he going to be able
Speaker 1: to withstand the rigors of the NBA. But Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: has done pretty well taking over Mark Jackson's team. Yeah, seton.
Speaker 1: Some people call that being born on third. On third,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's fair, but but he did
Speaker 1: well on third. Yes, he's done very well on third. Okay, yes, points.
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr showed up with the Warriors in twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: I think that was his first ever coaching job, right,
Speaker 1: he was a GM Yes with Phoenix Son. So his
Speaker 1: first ever coaching job was Curry Durant Curry those guys.
Speaker 1: He was sixty seven to fifteen his first year. Okay,
Speaker 1: seventy three wins next year. Okay, it's not supposed to
Speaker 1: be that easy. But he was also an assistant coach
Speaker 1: with Greg Popovich for quite a few years. He also
Speaker 1: was with Michael Jordan with the Bulls. How many championships
Speaker 1: does he have? How many? How many titles was he
Speaker 1: a part of as a player, assistant coach and a
Speaker 1: head coach as Hunt? I know five as a player
Speaker 1: three as a coach. That's eighth right there. Ready, how
Speaker 1: many as an assistant coach. I'm gonna guess he won
Speaker 1: a couple with the San Antonio Spurs, so he's decorated.
Speaker 1: Is he overrated or underrated? Yeah? You could say he's
Speaker 1: very good at keeping the drama down out there. It
Speaker 1: seems like he keeps things cool, supports his players to
Speaker 1: the hilt, and that's a big part of managing a team,
Speaker 1: not coaching a team. Well, I also think you learned
Speaker 1: from Popovic and Phil Jackson on how to handle stars
Speaker 1: and Phil. I mean you could look at Phil and
Speaker 1: go he's pretty lucky. He lucked into the Bowls, you know,
Speaker 1: when they fired Doug Collins and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you inherit, Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: And then he hand picked the Lakers. It's like Shack
Speaker 1: and Kobe. Uh. I think I can make those guys champions. Yeah. Seton,
Speaker 1: it's a great point about being able to keep drama
Speaker 1: down because just bringing in a player like Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: and then having him leave right away, the amount of
Speaker 1: drama that really must have been going on there, and
Speaker 1: it really only kind of simmered, it never really boiled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we're starting to hear dribs and drabs of
Speaker 1: what exactly was going on at the time, and Draymond
Speaker 1: Green and Kevin Durant and you know, they recruited him
Speaker 1: to come and play with them, and then he leaves
Speaker 1: and then there's a little bit of bad blood there.
Speaker 1: But is Steve Kerr underrated or overrated? I guess I'm
Speaker 1: going to say he's underrated with his ability to tap
Speaker 1: into the talent that he had and make them even
Speaker 1: better offensively, because defensively, people always underestimated the Golden State Warriors. Defensively,
Speaker 1: there were a good defensive team. I don't know where
Speaker 1: they rank now, but with Clay and Draymond, those are
Speaker 1: really good defenders. Mark Jackson emphasized defense with that team.
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr came in and said, we're going to emphasize
Speaker 1: offense and really changed the sport. Steph Curry change the sport.
Speaker 1: But Steve Kerr realized what he had and I remember
Speaker 1: talking to Steve Kerr, I said, when did you give
Speaker 1: Steph the green light? And he talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: there was a moment where you just go he's taking them,
Speaker 1: he's making those shots. It's one thing to take those shots,
Speaker 1: it's another thing where you go, no, he's going to
Speaker 1: make them. As a head coach, you probably are not
Speaker 1: going that's part of our game plan. That's who we are,
Speaker 1: that's how we're going to play. But Steve Kerr, who
Speaker 1: was a great outside shooter, had to embrace that at
Speaker 1: some point and just say, that's what coaches are. Control freaks,
Speaker 1: you know they you know, pat Riley famously would coach
Speaker 1: every single possession, Mike Fortello every single possession. They would
Speaker 1: just drain the joy out of the game. And it
Speaker 1: got to the point where some of these coaches had
Speaker 1: to allow their talent to just showcase their talent. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what Steve Kerr is probably going to
Speaker 1: be remembered for that he won. He knew how to win,
Speaker 1: he knew how to blend in. He played a great
Speaker 1: role with Jordan's Bulls as an assistant coach. GM wise,
Speaker 1: I don't think he was decorated. He got fined because
Speaker 1: of one thing he said on this show when he
Speaker 1: was GM of the Phoenix Suns having to do with
Speaker 1: Lebron James. But what he's done now, because I think
Speaker 1: you forget that they go to the finals. I mean,
Speaker 1: how many times have they gone to the finals with
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr and their favorite to go to the finals
Speaker 1: this year basing the Dallas Mavericks. But I would say
Speaker 1: he's probably a little underrated because this you know, we
Speaker 1: talk about Golden State and we talk about the stars.
Speaker 1: It's almost like Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson got credit, but
Speaker 1: I think that was difficult to get that credit because
Speaker 1: Michael was so omnipresent and it was like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is Michael Jordan coached by Phil Jackson. And then even
Speaker 1: going to the Lakers, when you have that Marquis talent,
Speaker 1: sometimes you get lost in the mix there. When you
Speaker 1: have the plucky underdog team, then we talk about the coach. Wow,
Speaker 1: they win forty one and forty one this year, What
Speaker 1: an unbelievable job by that coach. But if you win
Speaker 1: seventy three games, we tend to talk about the talent. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Here's Steve Kerr's playing career. He was known as a
Speaker 1: clutch shooter, didn't start a lot of games, so it's
Speaker 1: totally mostly a bench player. As somebody known as a
Speaker 1: non clutch player, do they ever label them that there's
Speaker 1: a guy this team was known as a not clutch player.
Speaker 1: In his last seven seasons in the league, Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: won seven titles without starting one game in the regular
Speaker 1: season or playoffs. He also left the Bulls when the
Speaker 1: Bulls broke up, jumped over to the Spurs, got a title,
Speaker 1: and then his last season the Pros before he retired.
Speaker 1: He got one more title with the Spurs. He ended perfectly.
Speaker 1: But his shooting percentage in the playoffs, he's like forty
Speaker 1: five percent from three. Yeah, but how many of those
Speaker 1: are contested? If you have Michael Jordan on your team,
Speaker 1: odds are you're probably gonna get an open look. Saying,
Speaker 1: but he won two as a role player with the Spurs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then was he on Popovich's coaching staff after that?
Speaker 1: Checking Okay, I just see him with the USA Basketball
Speaker 1: with Popovitch twenty seventeen. I thought he was an assistant coach.
Speaker 1: And I remember when he was going to coach the
Speaker 1: Knicks and he turned down Phil Jackson. I went, wow,
Speaker 1: he turned down the Knicks to coach the Warriors. He
Speaker 1: turned down Phil Jackson. Talk about a great decision. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can say, hey, you kind of ended up on
Speaker 1: third base with the Warriors, but he was smart enough
Speaker 1: to say no to Phil Jackson. Welcome to the program.
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Speaker 1: coming up tonight, Eastern Conference Finals, Celtics at the Heat.
Speaker 1: Heat with a slight favorite going into this game, the
Speaker 1: Lightning and Panthers, Blues and Avalanche. With Stanley Cup playoff action,
Speaker 1: Tiger is good to go for the PGA. I was
Speaker 1: watching the coverage yesterday on Golf Channel, and normally when
Speaker 1: you're watching the you know the analysts looking at somebody analyzing.
Speaker 1: They're going to analyze their swing. You know, maybe they're putting,
Speaker 1: but their swing. They were analyzing Tiger walking. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: looks good. Hey, looks a lot more comfortable. Not as
Speaker 1: measured as he was at Augusta. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that means. Tiger looked good, you know, but the question
Speaker 1: is the heat is going to be an issue in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: But he is walking better, and I think that was
Speaker 1: the big issue. Wasn't his swing. I think he got tired.
Speaker 1: I think he got tired the last two days at Augusta,
Speaker 1: and you know, those scores showed it. If but that's
Speaker 1: a tough course to walk. This will have the heat
Speaker 1: as well, and I think that'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: Tiger and the durability if he's able to keep that
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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just asking because I don't want to
Speaker 1: be insulting. I don't I don't mean to insult someone
Speaker 1: has been a very good friend of the show. But
Speaker 1: it's kind of a fun topic. So is Steve Kerr
Speaker 1: underrated or overrated? We could do that, we could do
Speaker 1: Uh well, here's another one. Okay, this is again. It's
Speaker 1: not meant to be insulting to anyone. No, that means
Speaker 1: it's from PAULI and it's meant to be insulting. I
Speaker 1: don't think it is from Paul okay, who's had a
Speaker 1: luckier coaching career, luckier Steve Kerr, Phil Jackson. That's you
Speaker 1: don't pin this on me. I'm just saying there's a
Speaker 1: real there's a real skill or an art to being
Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time. You know,
Speaker 1: you can be a really good coach, but if you
Speaker 1: don't have the players, it doesn't matter. Having had Jerry
Speaker 1: Krauss in Chicago and Jerry West in Los Angeles, boy,
Speaker 1: that can really help a coach out. And give credit
Speaker 1: to the Golden State Warriors. They draft aside from James Wiseman,
Speaker 1: they draft really good players. I mean, Klay Thompson was
Speaker 1: not a household name at Washington State, Draymond Greene was
Speaker 1: a curiosity at Michigan State, Steph Curry was undersized, and
Speaker 1: who's he going to garden the NBA? Well, that all
Speaker 1: worked out. I got to give credit to the front
Speaker 1: office for doing some heavy lifting there as well. Yes, Seed, Okay,
Speaker 1: how about this? This one is not for me. Sports
Speaker 1: where the head coach slash manager is least necessary on
Speaker 1: game day. Three options that were presented are baseball, basketball,
Speaker 1: in football. I think I know which one's going to
Speaker 1: last in that, but football, you gotta have your coach
Speaker 1: there on game day. It feels like these most necessary. Yeah, yes, Okay. Now,
Speaker 1: over the past two years, we've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: coaches out mostly due to COVID, but we've seen actual
Speaker 1: games in the NFL. Let's say the coach is not
Speaker 1: calling the plays. What is the head coaching head coach
Speaker 1: doing if he's not calling the plays during an NFL game,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's doing things, but I'm a guessing they
Speaker 1: could miss him for a day. Well, I think you're
Speaker 1: sort of bringing in information from your different coaches there,
Speaker 1: and I think if somebody says something like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: going to do this or this is the approach. You know,
Speaker 1: Belichick famously changes his game plan during a game. He
Speaker 1: changes quarter to quarter, half to half. I don't know
Speaker 1: how many coaches do that. I know Belichick probably gets
Speaker 1: too much credit there. You know, he takes away your
Speaker 1: biggest weapon. Yep, He's the only coach who's ever thought
Speaker 1: of this. Don't they ever say to somebody like, hey,
Speaker 1: you took away their best weapon. It's always you know
Speaker 1: what Belich check does. He takes away your best weapon.
Speaker 1: Do you think any other coaches go, uh, we'd do
Speaker 1: the same damn thing. Yes, Ton, Yes, like you would
Speaker 1: think maybe we should double team that guy in basketball
Speaker 1: he seems to be scoring fifty points. Well, no, I
Speaker 1: rail against that. There are times when I go, they're
Speaker 1: gonna let this guy take the game winning shot, and
Speaker 1: then he makes the game winning shot, and then afterwards
Speaker 1: people go, oh my god, how'd you let him take
Speaker 1: the game winning shot? Yeah? Point, but a football coach
Speaker 1: doesn't really handle the substitutions. The substitutions are based off
Speaker 1: prescheduled plays and packages, So he's not like, man, should
Speaker 1: I put in Johnson Smith is really cold? Basketball coaches
Speaker 1: have to make decisions about players going in and out.
Speaker 1: Those are made up names. On thank you, I put
Speaker 1: in Johnson Smith is called Yeah, it's a dramatic license. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Steve Kerr missed a couple of games. I didn't
Speaker 1: hear anybody say anything. The fair point, it's very point
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr didn't coach, which is the whole jumping off
Speaker 1: point gainst topic. Yes, it's like Steve Kerr overrated or underrated,
Speaker 1: and people think baseball managers are just there to go
Speaker 1: humby a little being over yet, well no, they do
Speaker 1: have to overmanage. Like day, you know, managers overmanage. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how many coaches over coach in today's game,
Speaker 1: whereas you know, a baseball manager is gonna go, m
Speaker 1: gonna have to make make a call to the bullpen.
Speaker 1: And then somebody comes in and faces one battern. You
Speaker 1: go up, yep, I'm gonna have to go to the
Speaker 1: bullpen again. Let me go argue this one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: thrown out for the boy, yea ye, yes, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know that the and plus was it Joe Girardi?
Speaker 1: Who has the book? Doesn't he have like a big binder?
Speaker 1: I think it was Joe Girardi. He would like have
Speaker 1: a big binder and it had it like every scenario
Speaker 1: you could possibly go to, and he would let's go
Speaker 1: to the binder and see what we're supposed to do
Speaker 1: here where there's you know, two men on two out
Speaker 1: in the seventh and we got a lefty face and
Speaker 1: a righty if Johnson gives it up, bringing Smith right? Yes,
Speaker 1: what's the hockey coach doing? What's the lines are established?
Speaker 1: After this number of the line two comes down? This
Speaker 1: guy has come down, the line three comes down? What
Speaker 1: are you doing during it? Go get the puck, that's
Speaker 1: the puck. Go get it well on the net, Get
Speaker 1: in the net. You missed it, Get in the net.
Speaker 1: Thank you? Check him, check hit him him the boards. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a fair point. I would assume in hockey. I
Speaker 1: don't know what like hockey people do, that the Lions
Speaker 1: changes are somewhat scheduled by time, and that you're like
Speaker 1: a line two, take a break. You guys, done enough work.
Speaker 1: They're gonna go line three. And they're all like whole
Speaker 1: surprise that they gotta make the decision to pull the
Speaker 1: goalie Do they pull the goal? You gotta pull the goaling,
Speaker 1: pull the goal now they're not gonna pull the goal. Yes,
Speaker 1: there are hockey fans right now listening to this whose
Speaker 1: minds are exploded. They are like, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: guys know nothing. You guys know nothing about this sport.
Speaker 1: Finally talking about hockey, and this is what you're gonna stay.
Speaker 1: Hit in the net direct direct your criticism to Fritzie.
Speaker 1: Go get the puck. It's the puck. Get the check him,
Speaker 1: check and check it over the blue line there sinking icing.
Speaker 1: What are you keep hitting it all the way down
Speaker 1: the other rat Let's take a break. We came out
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Speaker 1: great evening, everybody, and you, I can guarantee, guaranteed, Fritzie
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Speaker 1: and we're preparing for our speech. But we see you
Speaker 1: next week at the sports Himmies. Okay, I don't go
Speaker 1: anywhere anymore. Okay, all right, it'd be nice to have
Speaker 1: some support there. I'll support you from afar. Okay, A
Speaker 1: the best I'm trying to believe Fritzie'll show up with
Speaker 1: a limerick. Oh my god, Mike, Yeah, has been open
Speaker 1: Todd he was kidding. Well, yeah, I think he was
Speaker 1: telling telling you were kidding. I kidding. I'm kidding, Todd. Todd.
Speaker 1: That means he doesn't want you to show up with
Speaker 1: a limerick. Todd, I didn't pick up on you. I
Speaker 1: thought he was encouraging me to write a limerick. You
Speaker 1: can write a limerick. Thanks, go ahead, go ahead, I'm
Speaker 1: on it. You can write a limerick, all right, Mike,
Speaker 1: help me understand here. The NFL declines comments on the
Speaker 1: report of a meeting with Deshaun Watson. Okay, tell me
Speaker 1: what is supposed to be could be happening in this
Speaker 1: meeting between the two Well, this seems to be the
Speaker 1: traditional meeting that the NFL would engage in interviewing, fact finding, questioning, challenging,
Speaker 1: getting to the bottom of the allegations pending against DeShawn Watson.
Speaker 1: The Legg's habit Dan is to wait until the end
Speaker 1: of the process to meet with the person who is
Speaker 1: accused of wrong doing. I don't think they have to
Speaker 1: do that. They could meet with him multiple times that
Speaker 1: they want to. And sometimes it's smart. You meet with
Speaker 1: the accused, you find out some facts, you go back
Speaker 1: to the accusers, you flush things out, You meet with
Speaker 1: the accused again. The idea of putting all the eggs
Speaker 1: in one basket and waiting until the end, I don't
Speaker 1: know that I agree with, but that's what the NFL does,
Speaker 1: And it tells me that at some point a decision
Speaker 1: is coming. And when you look at the timeline, the
Speaker 1: next few months are going to go quickly. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be in training camp in two months. The regular season
Speaker 1: opener is seventeen weeks away. It's time for the NFL
Speaker 1: to make some decisions. They like to delay making a
Speaker 1: decision as long as they possibly can, but you got
Speaker 1: the Browns trying to get people to buy single game tickets.
Speaker 1: I'd like to know before I give you my credit
Speaker 1: card information for Cleveland Browns who the quarterback is going
Speaker 1: to be. And at some point the NFL just needs
Speaker 1: to make a decision. And when you consider the procedure
Speaker 1: they have in place now, it's gonna take some time.
Speaker 1: And if they want to get this all buttoned up
Speaker 1: before week one, it's time to start making some decisions
Speaker 1: about what they're gonna do about Deshaun Watson for twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. And this meeting tells me the next step
Speaker 1: maybe Friday, Memorial Day weekend, a little bad news dump
Speaker 1: in the afternoon coming up in about ten days. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's when we find out what the league is planning
Speaker 1: to do. Can Deshaun Watson and his lawyers say we're
Speaker 1: not going to cooperate, Well, they can, but it's not
Speaker 1: going to go well for him. He's required to cooperate.
Speaker 1: There's no Fifth Amendment protection, and if he chooses not
Speaker 1: to cooperate, they'll go ahead and make their decision and
Speaker 1: they'll use his refusal operate against him. It would be
Speaker 1: along the same lines of the Tom Brady destroyed cell
Speaker 1: phone from seven years ago. It would definitely enhance the
Speaker 1: penalties if he says, I'm not talking to you now.
Speaker 1: You pointed out by saying the league is not required
Speaker 1: to wait until the twenty two cases are resolved before
Speaker 1: they suspend to Shaun Watson. Your guess is the league
Speaker 1: will suspend him now with the possibility of suspending him
Speaker 1: again later. Why do you know that that's a guess
Speaker 1: because it allows them to deal with the facts as
Speaker 1: they currently understand them to be. And this is a
Speaker 1: guy who's accused by twenty two different people of wrong doing.
Speaker 1: This isn't one or two, this is twenty two. At
Speaker 1: some point between one and twenty two, the standard, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we need to hear both sides of this. Well,
Speaker 1: it could be somebody who's out to get some at
Speaker 1: twenty two. I don't know where the number is, but
Speaker 1: at twenty two you're on the wrong side of the
Speaker 1: number where you've reached a critical mass where there's just
Speaker 1: too many people to dismiss it as a conspirat see
Speaker 1: or a money grab or whatever. Twenty two is too many,
Speaker 1: So they could say just based on what we already know,
Speaker 1: just based on the lifestyle you've admitted to finding these
Speaker 1: massages via social media. His lawyer, Rusty harden Is, admitted
Speaker 1: that some of those massages would become consensual sexual encounters.
Speaker 1: Those habits are enough that it requires intervention, It requires
Speaker 1: a suspension. So we're gonna do a suspension for now,
Speaker 1: and we're going to monitor these cases, and depending upon
Speaker 1: how they turn out, we may suspend you again later.
Speaker 1: That would be I think a safe balance for the NFL.
Speaker 1: You take some action now, and then you'll wait and
Speaker 1: see what happens with the cases, and maybe you take
Speaker 1: action later. Can the NFL talk to Stephen Ross and
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Now correct me if I'm wrong here, But
Speaker 1: didn't they sort of have a negotiation that they were
Speaker 1: going to trade for Watson, but he could only settle
Speaker 1: eighteen to the twenty two cases. They were well, they
Speaker 1: were gonna trade for Watson if he settled all of
Speaker 1: the cases. Eighteen of them were ready to go. There
Speaker 1: were four holdouts, and Watson decided, if I can't settle
Speaker 1: them all, I'm not settling any And I think that
Speaker 1: was a bad decision in hindsight. I think if you
Speaker 1: take eighteen of these cases off the table, it's a
Speaker 1: lot more manageable if you only have four, even if
Speaker 1: they are the four strongest claims. And I don't know
Speaker 1: which four were the holdouts, but take away the eighteen
Speaker 1: four or left. The Dolphins believed that if DeShawn Watson
Speaker 1: had settled all twenty two and the trade had happened,
Speaker 1: he would have been suspended six games. I don't know
Speaker 1: why they believe it. The league is very good about
Speaker 1: keeping cards close to the vest, but the Dolphins believed
Speaker 1: he was looking at a six game suspension if he
Speaker 1: settled all twenty two. And I don't know why the
Speaker 1: Dolphins think that again. But you know, the league can
Speaker 1: talk to whoever they want to talk to to try
Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of this and come up
Speaker 1: with the best punishment. But I think that the Dolphins
Speaker 1: were just making their decisions based upon whatever they managed
Speaker 1: to get from the league office. Any chance Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: is not suspended at some point, well, the only way
Speaker 1: that would happen is if the NFL decides to do nothing. Now,
Speaker 1: let the twenty two cases play out. He wins twenty
Speaker 1: two different trials, which good luck with that. Dan, I
Speaker 1: tried more cases than I care to remember, because if
Speaker 1: you try cases for a living, you know, we see
Speaker 1: in TV's and movies, Oh he's never lost a case.
Speaker 1: Oh it never lost a case. You know what if
Speaker 1: you never lost a case, you never tried a case,
Speaker 1: you tried only one, and you got lucky, because by
Speaker 1: the time of case goes to trial, it is a
Speaker 1: complete and total crapshoot flip of the coin. So many
Speaker 1: factors are out of your control. You're gonna try twenty
Speaker 1: two of these cases, You're gonna win twenty two. Good
Speaker 1: freaking luck with that. But let's assume that happens they
Speaker 1: decide to wait, he wins all twenty two coin flips,
Speaker 1: and then they say, what do we What are we
Speaker 1: suspending him for? He's not responsible for any violations of
Speaker 1: anyone's rights. That would be the only way that he's
Speaker 1: not suspended at all. He's Mike Florio his best selling book, Playmakers,
Speaker 1: available online wherever books are sold. As a lawyer, what
Speaker 1: did you think of Joe Pesci's a performance in My
Speaker 1: Cousin Vinny? Oh, that was awesome, Hey, Dan, listen. I
Speaker 1: would when I was getting ready to try a case,
Speaker 1: I would watch My Cousin Vinny and a Few Good
Speaker 1: Men Because of all the movies and TV shows I've
Speaker 1: ever seen over the years, those were the two that
Speaker 1: were the most realistic. My Cousin Vinnie is uncannily accurate
Speaker 1: as to how yes, I mean you don't have a
Speaker 1: lawyer that over the top, But the procedural aspects of it,
Speaker 1: the way that unfolded was very accurate, very accurate. Whoever
Speaker 1: wrote that script either was a lawyer or knew a
Speaker 1: lawyer very well. But I would always try to strike
Speaker 1: that balance because at the end of the day, you're
Speaker 1: trying to just like you do every day, like I
Speaker 1: try to do every morning on PFT Live. You got
Speaker 1: to keep the jury entertained. They expect to be entertained.
Speaker 1: They fall asleep quickly, and between a few good men
Speaker 1: and my cousin Vinny, I would find the inspiration to
Speaker 1: go in and hopefully keep the jury awake at least
Speaker 1: until the end of the opening statements. Did you ever
Speaker 1: times I was successful? Did you ever yell objection? I
Speaker 1: did want to say everything that guy said is boot
Speaker 1: oh stuff. Now I never said that. I you know,
Speaker 1: you get to do you gotta do, you gotta, you
Speaker 1: gotta entertain them. They expect you think about it. You're
Speaker 1: you're a member of a jury, and you've heard all
Speaker 1: this stuff over the years. You've seen all these shows
Speaker 1: in movies. You expect to be entertained. So it's a
Speaker 1: high bar, and uh, you know, you gotta come up
Speaker 1: with some ways to keep their attention. Were you ever
Speaker 1: held in contempt? I was not. I was not. I
Speaker 1: don't think I was ever even close. I got I
Speaker 1: got chastised a few times. Because when you're in trial,
Speaker 1: especially if your practice alone, you're sleeping like four hours
Speaker 1: a night during trial. I mean, it is all encompassing.
Speaker 1: It is stressful, and so sometimes you give into that
Speaker 1: stress a little bit. And I've pissed a few judges
Speaker 1: off in my time. All Right, tell me what's going
Speaker 1: on with Drew Brees and NBC since you worked with
Speaker 1: him on Football Night in America, Mike, Hey, Hey, Dan,
Speaker 1: they only wake me up for the unimportant meetings. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything. I do know this, though I do
Speaker 1: know this, I have no reason to doubt the reporting
Speaker 1: from Andrew Marshawn to the New York Post when he
Speaker 1: says the relationship is over, and when Drew Brees tweets
Speaker 1: that it's speculation. Drew, It's not speculation, it's a report.
Speaker 1: And I suspect he's frustrated that he didn't get to
Speaker 1: control of his narrative, so he came out with this
Speaker 1: tweet that suggests he could do all sorts of different things.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's joking. I think he can do
Speaker 1: whatever he wants to do. If he wants to play football,
Speaker 1: he could play right now. There's teams that I would
Speaker 1: look at their depth chart and say he would be
Speaker 1: the best option if he walked through the door right now. Seattle, Carolina, Miami,
Speaker 1: sorry to Ann, but if he really wanted to do it, yeah,
Speaker 1: and if he wants to play pickleball professionally, yeah, he
Speaker 1: could probably do it. If he wants to be on
Speaker 1: the Senior PGA tour. I mean, he's seven years too young,
Speaker 1: but he'd have seven years to get ready and he'd
Speaker 1: probably be good enough to do it. So I have
Speaker 1: no reason to think that Andrew Marshawn's report is inaccurate.
Speaker 1: But I also would be surprised if he comes back
Speaker 1: and plays football. The thing that I brought up yesterday
Speaker 1: and I went back and listened to an interview I
Speaker 1: did with him in November of twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 1: he talked about that excitement when you go to a
Speaker 1: stadium to be an analyst, as opposed to a sterile
Speaker 1: environment in Stanford, Connecticut, where you're around you and Peter
Speaker 1: King and Chris no offense. That's a yeah, that's not
Speaker 1: a selling point. He's used to being out there hearing
Speaker 1: the crowd, whether they're yelling at him or for him,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what he truly misses. He needs that,
Speaker 1: he feeds off of that. I don't think he's going
Speaker 1: to play again, but I do think he looks around
Speaker 1: and goes, I don't want to be a studio guy,
Speaker 1: and if I'm gonna make money, I gotta make money
Speaker 1: as an analyst, because that's where everybody's making all their money.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that logic? I think you're right.
Speaker 1: It's a different world when you're in studio. I remember
Speaker 1: when we were in thirty Rock and there were no windows,
Speaker 1: there was no natural light, there was no fresh air,
Speaker 1: there were no clocks. It was like being trapped in
Speaker 1: at casino somewhere. He had no idea where it was
Speaker 1: day or night. It was just a weird, suffocating, claustrophobic environment,
Speaker 1: so different than being in an open air stating with
Speaker 1: all those people there, the environment you're used to for
Speaker 1: twenty five years of your life between college and pros. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I don't think it's a secret that he
Speaker 1: wants to do games. There's no games at NBC for
Speaker 1: him to do, so he's gonna have to look elsewhere.
Speaker 1: And that's why you know, Fox the musical chairs they're
Speaker 1: still not full yet. There's still a spot in the
Speaker 1: second or third slot there. And if that's what he
Speaker 1: wants to do, that seems to be what he's what
Speaker 1: he's destined to do. So you think Dan Orlomsky then
Speaker 1: will replace Drew Brees at NBC. Oh, I don't. Hey,
Speaker 1: they don't tell me anything. I love your reaction. You
Speaker 1: know they don't tell me. They don't tell me. You're
Speaker 1: a reporter. You have to find this out. Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: on it. Now you're on it. It's it's a delicate situation,
Speaker 1: as you might imagine. Thank you, Thank you for shying
Speaker 1: away from a delicate information. Could I close with a limerick? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course you have one. I had one the other day,
Speaker 1: if for Fritzie. I didn't hear. I thought i'd get
Speaker 1: a text from him. I thought I had a good
Speaker 1: Seaton liked it. I had a good limerick for Fritzie.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what it is now. Wait, you wrote
Speaker 1: it and send it to Fritzie. Well, I wrote it
Speaker 1: and tweeted it to Fritzie. Oh, I don't think I
Speaker 1: saw that. I totally would have responded. I'd never blow
Speaker 1: off Mike. He gets back to me immediately when we
Speaker 1: invite him on the show. I didn't text it he
Speaker 1: I thought you'd see it on Twitter. Seaton liked it.
Speaker 1: Satan enjoyed it, I think Seaton, Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 1: remember something about that. Wow. Oh it was a few
Speaker 1: days ago. Wow, it really it really made him. It
Speaker 1: might have been a courtesy like like like that, but wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know where I stand. That's right. It feels back
Speaker 1: to the lab. Feels like, how about Fritzie, I'll write
Speaker 1: your limericks. I'll send you ten limericks that you can
Speaker 1: use from the podium when you guys win next. I
Speaker 1: would love that he doesn't use other people's work. That's
Speaker 1: the problem, Mike, no matter how good it is, that's
Speaker 1: definitely the problem. Well I did. I said to Sandler
Speaker 1: and David Spade, would you write some material for Fritzie
Speaker 1: when he does stand up? They said absolutely. And I
Speaker 1: said to Fritzie, hey, good news, Sandler and Spade will
Speaker 1: write some of your material. He goes, I'd rather they didn't,
Speaker 1: And I go, are you kidding me? So he'd rather
Speaker 1: go down in flames with his material than to get
Speaker 1: props for your material? Yeah? I get that. I get
Speaker 1: that there's a pride and authorship. Even if there's no
Speaker 1: pride in your authorship. Ultimate, let you want to be
Speaker 1: the one RESPONSI before the laughs of the lack thereof
Speaker 1: I get that. By the way, I still hold to
Speaker 1: my theory that the Browns hold on to Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: because if Deshaun Watson is suspended for six games, eight games,
Speaker 1: Baker gets to come in. They try to make nice
Speaker 1: with him to say, here, you're you're able to play
Speaker 1: for your next job. Do your best, go out there,
Speaker 1: prove you can play, and we'll send you, you know,
Speaker 1: someplace during the season. That's the right play. That is
Speaker 1: the right play. But they have a lot of damage
Speaker 1: to undo, and it's their own bam fault for how
Speaker 1: they handled the guy. But he in his mind that
Speaker 1: bridge is obliterated. The Browns have to rebuild that bridge.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they would make him a promise that
Speaker 1: they'll trade him by the trade deadline if it's less
Speaker 1: than an eight game suspension, or or we won't use
Speaker 1: the franchise tag next year. If you go out and
Speaker 1: have a great season, we think we can try to
Speaker 1: trade you next year. Something to induce him back into
Speaker 1: the family. Because Dan Seattle, Carolina, Cleveland, if those are
Speaker 1: ultimately his three options, Cleveland's the best place where he
Speaker 1: could have the kind of season that sets the table
Speaker 1: the contract he wants to get next year seat question
Speaker 1: do you have Florio's I do? I do it? Says
Speaker 1: there once was a man named Fritz who wanted to
Speaker 1: give his friend fits. He wrote up some jokes, shared
Speaker 1: them with his blokes, and someday they'll left till they exploitive.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, so they're supposed to be funny. Hey, alright,
Speaker 1: see on our show, I could say the word. We
Speaker 1: said it three times today because we're not FCC regulated anymore.
Speaker 1: Sims swears all the time, doesn't he We hit well,
Speaker 1: not all the time, well all the time off air, Yes,
Speaker 1: on air, it's creeping in more and more. And we've
Speaker 1: got this test going, like we keep dropping s and
Speaker 1: f bombs until somebody says something and nobody's said anything,
Speaker 1: which I guess means nobody's watching. Well, that's that was
Speaker 1: our approach on Sports Center when I was with Oberman.
Speaker 1: We thought, let's let's just say whatever we want to
Speaker 1: say and see if we hear from management. And when
Speaker 1: we didn't hear from management, we just figured they weren't
Speaker 1: up at eleven o'clock at night, you know, which was
Speaker 1: like fun but kind of scary that management wasn't even
Speaker 1: listening to us. The book is Playmakers picking up. You'll
Speaker 1: love it and a great Father's Day gift as well. Mike,
Speaker 1: thank you as always, and keep those limericks to yourself.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Damn all right, that's Mike Floyd. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: did you think of that, Fritzie? I thought Flora did
Speaker 1: a pretty good Actually liked it a lot. I liked
Speaker 1: that there's a little little humor in there, little blimerick,
Speaker 1: a little blue limerick at the end with the curse word.
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Speaker 1: your podcast from. Reggie Miller called Game seven between the
Speaker 1: MAVs and the Sons. He will be back at it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: It'll be Game one of the Western Conference Finals between
Speaker 1: the Mavericks and the Warriors, and always great to see
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer. Reggid was back in December, I
Speaker 1: think where you were talking about Luca plotting and saying
Speaker 1: he was probably the heaviest he's ever been on the court.
Speaker 1: Luca has since come back around to say, you know what, basically,
Speaker 1: you were right. Did Luca ever say anything to you
Speaker 1: since then? In between those comments and these comments kind
Speaker 1: of saying yeah, you were right, he didn't per se
Speaker 1: say thank you. He gave me a dap and shook
Speaker 1: his head and said I understood more so Jason Kidd.
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd said thank you because it's almost and you
Speaker 1: know this very well as a parent, you could say
Speaker 1: everything you want to your kids and he goes in
Speaker 1: one ear and out the other. But when they hear
Speaker 1: it from somewhere else and it's the same message, they're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. So he understood, and he knew, and
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd had been kind of verbalizing to him, You've
Speaker 1: got the kingdom at your feet, young man, but you've
Speaker 1: got to get in better shape and you've got to
Speaker 1: stay off the officials. And he took both of those advices,
Speaker 1: coming from Kevin Harlan and myself and obviously from Jason Kidd,
Speaker 1: and this is where we are now. Luca was around
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty pounds, which is thirty more than
Speaker 1: his listed playing weight. He said, people are going to
Speaker 1: talk about it, yes or no, but I know I've
Speaker 1: got to do better. I had a long summer. I
Speaker 1: think I relaxed a little bit, not taking care, but
Speaker 1: I've got to be better. I had the Olympics, took
Speaker 1: three weeks off. I relaxed a little bit, maybe too much.
Speaker 1: I just got back on track. And I remember when
Speaker 1: you tweeted or you said it, and I text you
Speaker 1: and I said, those are strong comments. And you said
Speaker 1: I think was I fair? And I said yes, because
Speaker 1: you're assessing what you're seeing that Luca was not the
Speaker 1: same player. You weren't making fun as much as you
Speaker 1: were being an analyst in that situation. And I was
Speaker 1: curious if people were going to say, are you fat
Speaker 1: shaming Luca in a situation? Yeah, obviously some people did.
Speaker 1: But again, and that's the beauty of what you and
Speaker 1: I do, and especially for myself, you know, having been
Speaker 1: on Turner and T and T for the last fifteen
Speaker 1: plus year, they give us a platform for us to
Speaker 1: be honest. And I know how great Luca can and
Speaker 1: will be in the future. And at the start of
Speaker 1: the season, he wasn't at his best. And for all
Speaker 1: the reasons that you just highlighted words out of Luca's mouth,
Speaker 1: he understood. It was a long and tough summer for
Speaker 1: him too. For them to qualify for the Olympics, it
Speaker 1: was very difficult, and I understand why he took three
Speaker 1: weeks to a month off. First of all, I would
Speaker 1: like to know where he was partying for three or
Speaker 1: four weeks for him to pick up thirty pounds, because
Speaker 1: that's the kind of party I want to go to
Speaker 1: with you, Luca. I want to be hanging out with you,
Speaker 1: but he understood to be at this level in the NBA,
Speaker 1: he had to be better, he had to be lighter.
Speaker 1: And again we weren't fetch shaming because when he is
Speaker 1: at his best, which we have seen in these playoffs,
Speaker 1: no one can touch him. And it's funny every time
Speaker 1: we would speak with Jason Kidd before the games, he
Speaker 1: keeps going back to he's Lebron. He's Lebron. He's too big,
Speaker 1: he's too physical. They have no way answer for him,
Speaker 1: and he's showing that because of when he's in shape
Speaker 1: and his size, being able to get wherever he wants
Speaker 1: on the floor. Dan, help me understand this. I brought
Speaker 1: this up earlier that we look at the best point
Speaker 1: guards of all time. You know, we'll have Chris Paul
Speaker 1: in there and Isaiah and you have Magic and John
Speaker 1: Stockton and Steve Naight whoever's on your list. They're all
Speaker 1: short guys except for Magic. Right, Why isn't Lebron in
Speaker 1: there as the second best point guard of all time?
Speaker 1: Where is Luca he's a point guard? Why aren't they
Speaker 1: designated point guards here? I think we're past that stage
Speaker 1: now in today's game because it's position list basketball Now,
Speaker 1: when you and I were coming up in the seventies,
Speaker 1: eighties and nineties, there was you know, point guards, shooting guards,
Speaker 1: small forwards, power forward centers. Everything now is gumbo. Every
Speaker 1: is all mixed together. And Luca handles the basketball eighty
Speaker 1: five ninety percent of the time. Same with Lebron. And
Speaker 1: you look at Lebron's numbers, he has point guard numbers
Speaker 1: in terms of assists. I mean, he's up there with
Speaker 1: the point guard. So you're right, Lebron, Luca at the
Speaker 1: end of the day will have the same type of
Speaker 1: numbers as a top seven eight point guard. But you
Speaker 1: look at their body size being six seven six eight
Speaker 1: six nine. At times for Magic people kind of scratch
Speaker 1: their heads because the whole notion of point guards goes
Speaker 1: back to Bob Couzy at his feet. You know, people
Speaker 1: think of Bob Couzy as the ultimate point guard and
Speaker 1: John Stockton in Isaiah, but that's no longer in today's game.
Speaker 1: How do you explain what happened to the Phoenix Suns
Speaker 1: on Sunday night? And when did you realize they were
Speaker 1: going to be in trouble? Every timeout, Kevin Harland and
Speaker 1: myself we would look at one another's like, can you
Speaker 1: believe this is like we were in shock, and when
Speaker 1: Luca set the tone early scored the first eight, with
Speaker 1: two of them being two step back threes, I knew
Speaker 1: something magical was gonna happen. That night. We thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna be the reverse. We thought, oh, Phoenix, they're
Speaker 1: gonna put these kids in the bed. They're tired of this.
Speaker 1: And they were not two. They were really three steps
Speaker 1: behind the Dallas Mavericks. But I'm gonna give credit to
Speaker 1: Jason Kidd and his coaching staff very well prepared all series.
Speaker 1: But to me, Luca set the tone in Game seven,
Speaker 1: and that's what your best player has to do because
Speaker 1: he has to give belief and hope to the rest
Speaker 1: of the guy's like, okay, jump on my shoulders, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. When he set the tone with those
Speaker 1: first eight, everyone fell in line in formation and it
Speaker 1: was downhill for the Suns after that. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you ever felt this. I'm sure that you made
Speaker 1: other people feel this. But when Luca hit the corner
Speaker 1: jumper and the net had a zing to it, like
Speaker 1: it wasn't he just made it or kind of made it.
Speaker 1: It was whenever I would play against somebody and they
Speaker 1: made a shot, it was how they made the shot
Speaker 1: that sometimes stayed with me. Where you're going, Oh, damn,
Speaker 1: they're on tonight. And when Luca made that shot from
Speaker 1: the corner, I think the second three that he made,
Speaker 1: I went, oh, they're in trouble, because he was feeling
Speaker 1: it and letting the crowd know, hey, you better buckle up.
Speaker 1: We're in for a long ride tonight, you know. And
Speaker 1: when he was knocking down those shots, it was in
Speaker 1: front of Larry Fitzgerald, Travis Kelsey, you know, it was
Speaker 1: a celebrity row that was right there, and he was
Speaker 1: just giving it too, not to them per se, but
Speaker 1: to that general area. And every time he made a shot,
Speaker 1: it was like a gasp was in the air. So
Speaker 1: they knew. The Phoenix Suns team knew that he was
Speaker 1: coming for business. And sometimes when you're best player, he
Speaker 1: just let the air out of that whole building and
Speaker 1: it gave confidence and life to the others on that
Speaker 1: MAVs team. You know, Spicer Dinwoodie was a no show
Speaker 1: the first five games. In Game six and seven, he
Speaker 1: found his stroke, and that's because of the belief that
Speaker 1: they all have in Luca. Do you think the window
Speaker 1: of opportunity for the Suns is closed. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's closed. You don't win sixty four games by accident.
Speaker 1: I think they have some decisions to make this summer,
Speaker 1: number one being Deanandrey eight, in which you know, for
Speaker 1: him to only play seventeen minutes in Game seven and
Speaker 1: then for Monty to get on the podium afterwards, and
Speaker 1: when asked that question, why did he only play seventeen minutes,
Speaker 1: his only response was its internal something obviously and clearly
Speaker 1: was going on behind the scenes that we're not privy too.
Speaker 1: But again, oh, you didn't see anything on the sidelines
Speaker 1: between those two. No, And that's the way they've always
Speaker 1: run their organization. You're not gonna see anyone get out
Speaker 1: of character. Whatever happens with the Phoenix Suns is going
Speaker 1: to happen behind closed doors. But it was a little
Speaker 1: surprising because coming into this series, we felt and everyone
Speaker 1: felt that Ayton had to be the difference maker because
Speaker 1: he was so dominant all season. He was dominant in
Speaker 1: that first round matchup versus the Pelicans, and you would
Speaker 1: think he would have the advantage because basically they were
Speaker 1: playing five small guys with you know, Burton's and Maxie
Speaker 1: Cleverer being the tallest guys for the Mavericks at six nine,
Speaker 1: he should have the clear cut advantage. And after that
Speaker 1: twenty five point first first, twenty five point first game,
Speaker 1: you didn't hear from DeAndre Ayten, so it was a
Speaker 1: little head scratching. But they have some decisions to make.
Speaker 1: Talking to Reggie Miller, Reggie will be on the call
Speaker 1: Game one Western Conference Finals, Maps and the Warriors that'll
Speaker 1: be tomorrow night, Game one tonight Heat and the Celtics.
Speaker 1: Who do you like? Wow? I really feel this is
Speaker 1: a pick them series. You know, I can make a
Speaker 1: case for both sides. You look at Boston what they've
Speaker 1: done in the first two rounds, and I know it
Speaker 1: was a sweep of Brooklyn, but those were four very
Speaker 1: hard fought games versus the Nets, and then to defeat
Speaker 1: the defending champs in seven having won twice in their building,
Speaker 1: it says a lot for Boston. My question going forward
Speaker 1: do they have enough? And every possession is going to
Speaker 1: mean something in this Boston Miami series because both teams
Speaker 1: are fabulous defensively and no one is talking about how
Speaker 1: great Jimmy Butler has been for the Miami Heat in
Speaker 1: these playoffs. You know, everyone's talking about Luca and rightfully so,
Speaker 1: and Jayson Tatum rightfully so you could put Jimmy Butler's
Speaker 1: name in there as well, because he's been that good.
Speaker 1: If you're asking me to make a pick, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: roll with what my son told me this morning when
Speaker 1: I posed him the same question that you just asked me,
Speaker 1: who do you like? He's like, Dad, I'm rolling with
Speaker 1: Uncle Jimmy in Miami Heat. I think no one's giving
Speaker 1: Miami Heat a lot of love. And I know Tyler
Speaker 1: Hero has been disappointing in these playoffs, but I just
Speaker 1: think something special is brewing in South Beach. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Jimmy Butler in Miami in a very tough
Speaker 1: seven game series. See, I think that Tyler Hero is
Speaker 1: the key to the Miami Heat because if he's averaging
Speaker 1: over twenty a game, everybody else does what they're supposed
Speaker 1: to do, then I think Miami can win this. If
Speaker 1: Tyler Hero continues to give you six, eight, ten points
Speaker 1: off the bench, I just don't think you can match
Speaker 1: the firepower there. I agree with you, and he's got
Speaker 1: to show up. Another big X factor will be gave Vincent.
Speaker 1: Obviously he gets the start tonight. No, Kyle Lowry, We
Speaker 1: don't know if Lowry would be back at all in
Speaker 1: the series. You hope he would be, but gave Vincent
Speaker 1: is going to have to play above his means for
Speaker 1: the Heat to be successful. You were mentioning the celebrities
Speaker 1: at the Phoenix Suns game assigned from New York with
Speaker 1: your interaction with Spike Lee. What's celebrity on what team
Speaker 1: you noticed or you had an interaction with around the league?
Speaker 1: Interaction with I would say it was always cool to
Speaker 1: play the Lakers and obviously shake hands with Jack because
Speaker 1: he was the Spike Lee of the Lakers, and at
Speaker 1: the time, in the late eighties and nineties, it was
Speaker 1: you know Jack Listen, the actor there, Academy Award winning actor,
Speaker 1: so it was kind of cool for him to just
Speaker 1: acknowledge your play. Did he say anything negative to you? No, no, no.
Speaker 1: The only person I ever tried to do that was
Speaker 1: you know who from New York. Everyone else for the
Speaker 1: most part, celebrity wise, because I had already set the
Speaker 1: precedent in the bar high. If you're gonna talk to
Speaker 1: me you're gonna be a part of the day. So
Speaker 1: they all knew what I did to Spike, so they
Speaker 1: were so the celebrities are always somewhat on. They were
Speaker 1: unnoticed that I could go off and I was gonna
Speaker 1: make them a part of the dialogue. So they were
Speaker 1: pretty cool with that. Did you ever think about fighting
Speaker 1: Spike Lee? No, it was never gonna come. What if
Speaker 1: he was six to five, then it's on us. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's on six below. It's all. It's gonna be all
Speaker 1: about words. But when you you you try to use
Speaker 1: that to your advantage, like that's the key sometimes that
Speaker 1: you know. I always wondered, and I always thought, maybe
Speaker 1: you got two into the conversation with Spike Lee and
Speaker 1: that could take you away from your game. Where Luca,
Speaker 1: it felt like, was acknowledging the crowd a little too much,
Speaker 1: like stay in your game, stay in the moment. How
Speaker 1: hard is that to do? At times? It could be difficult. Look,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest here as well. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: have to manufacture your own type of I don't know,
Speaker 1: well Jordan did this. Jordan would make up fuge with
Speaker 1: guys that didn't even know we had a feud against them.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to you gotta manufacture it. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta manufacture bad blood. And I think at times
Speaker 1: that's what Luca we see him doing all the talking
Speaker 1: to the fans. I personally I like it. You know,
Speaker 1: it keeps you engaged and you know, and then sometimes
Speaker 1: it spills over to your opponent, because we saw him
Speaker 1: and Devin Book are kind of going at it a
Speaker 1: little bit. You've got to build that up in a
Speaker 1: series because you're seeing these You're gonna be seeing each
Speaker 1: other for the next ten to twelve days, So I've
Speaker 1: got to build up bad blood. Right now, there's no
Speaker 1: bad blood between the Warriors and the Mass, but I
Speaker 1: guarantee you after Game one, something will be manufactured. Draymond
Speaker 1: Green will say something, Luca will say something. Jalen Brunson
Speaker 1: is going to get into it. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: fun series to watch how they manufacture the hate towards
Speaker 1: one another. Lakers will haven't named a head coach, and
Speaker 1: I'm curious why not. Maybe they're trying to exhaust their search.
Speaker 1: I felt that they were waiting for current coaches that
Speaker 1: were still in the playoffs to take a look at
Speaker 1: it is that a desirable job, regid it. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it is the Laker brand they
Speaker 1: do them along with the Celtics, have the most championships desirable.
Speaker 1: I don't know. A lot of pressure comes with that,
Speaker 1: and it depends on who you're gonna be answering to.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be able to coach the way you
Speaker 1: want or are you gonna be hearing from Genie Buss,
Speaker 1: Kurt Rambas, Rob Paulinka. Are you gonna be hearing from
Speaker 1: all these people? Or are you gonna be able to
Speaker 1: execute your game plan on a night basis the way
Speaker 1: you want? And now Phil Jackson's in the mix in
Speaker 1: terms of voices, right, and how much pressure is that,
Speaker 1: especially if you're one of these young coaches that they've
Speaker 1: been interviewing and potentially can get the higher You know,
Speaker 1: you've got Phil Jackson, one of the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: Now he's chiming in, So it's very difficult, I doubt.
Speaker 1: Then you look at the roster redg we haven't even
Speaker 1: like you still got Lebron James and you still got
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. But other than that, you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of work to do and you're gonna have to make
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook work that they're not gonna trade him. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to make him work somehow, and you can't
Speaker 1: change him, Yeah, but there's ways where you can tweak him,
Speaker 1: hopefully to make him more successful. And on the flip side,
Speaker 1: Russell has to look himself in the mirror too and say,
Speaker 1: I'm not the twenty three year old Russell Westbrook and
Speaker 1: from OKC right, but some of those shots are like,
Speaker 1: you don't even see that in a youth league game,
Speaker 1: he said, in the side of the backboard, like he
Speaker 1: sometimes you've got to look yourself in the mirror. Dan,
Speaker 1: He's got to look himself in the mirror and say,
Speaker 1: what when he looks at himself in the mirror, I'm
Speaker 1: not as good as I used to be, But I'm
Speaker 1: also not as bad as Theodore and the Danis and
Speaker 1: Reggie Miller are saying. I am as well. I would
Speaker 1: never let him take a jumper from eighteen feet out
Speaker 1: fifteen feet out, like he can shoot free throws and
Speaker 1: he's a good free throw shooter. But I just have
Speaker 1: to say to him, you you have a no fly
Speaker 1: zone in here. Everything is going to be going to
Speaker 1: the hoop there. Well, here's the problem. That's not the
Speaker 1: type of player that can play with Lebron James, Lebron
Speaker 1: James and Anthony Davis. They need space floor spacers. That's
Speaker 1: not Russell Western. Oh my god. And that's what the
Speaker 1: new coach is probably saying right now. Oh my, I
Speaker 1: know it's okay. Is Steve Kerr underrated or overrated as
Speaker 1: the head coach? Yeah? Well, I certainly wouldn't say he's
Speaker 1: overrated for a guy who's won. But he stepped into
Speaker 1: a great situation here. Well so did Phil Jackson. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: in both places. In Chicago, well no, but he didn't.
Speaker 1: He stepped into that. But then they got Scottie and
Speaker 1: they added some pieces there, and and Doug Collins didn't
Speaker 1: make them a winner, and he had Mike. So Phil,
Speaker 1: I'll give him credit. In Chicago. In LA that felt like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show up on third base. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you about the Triple I hit. I would say Steve
Speaker 1: Kerr as great as Mark Jackson is and was for
Speaker 1: the Warriors. Steve Kerr just added a little bit more
Speaker 1: spice to the Warriors. I don't think he gets enough, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think he gets enough credit as well as
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson. I think people tend to forget Mark Jackson
Speaker 1: laid the foundation and it gets lost in the mix
Speaker 1: for what he did for the Warriors and with the Warriors, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Mark made him they were a defensive team, like
Speaker 1: Mark stress defense. It felt like Kerr came in and said,
Speaker 1: let's open this up. Let's steph. You're gonna be taking
Speaker 1: those shots. I'm fine with that. I mean, it took
Speaker 1: him a little while before he went, are you I
Speaker 1: don't know if I want you shooting out that far?
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden he's like, you came
Speaker 1: shooting out that far? Yeah, Clay, go on ahead. You know.
Speaker 1: Kerr added the offensive identity and they kept Mark Jackson's
Speaker 1: defensive identity as well. Yeah, but I think he added
Speaker 1: to it. He's Reggie Miller. He'll be on the call
Speaker 1: tomorrow night nine Eastern on TNT Game one A Western
Speaker 1: Conference Finals maps and the Warriors. Regg looking great and
Speaker 1: we'll be watching them and I you know, or you're
Speaker 1: the best, dammit, love Y'allge Miller. Reggie Miller. If we
Speaker 1: win a sport, when we win a sports Emmy, Reggie
Speaker 1: gets a sports Emmy. Yeah. Point. Does he get a
Speaker 1: little does he get the ride on the Dallas Mavericks
Speaker 1: float if they somehow win the title? He did, he
Speaker 1: inspire Luca to work out more. That's fair, fair point. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Regg kind of poked him a little bit there