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Speaker 1: the health of the Black Nation's health is at risk
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Speaker 1: guest that hate. It's more than just a guest. He's
Speaker 1: like a brother, maybe more than a brother, a spiritual brother.
Speaker 1: I've known him since the eighties, the early eight U
Speaker 1: s c. Both of us Trojan graduated roommates, pledged together,
Speaker 1: worked in the mortgage field together. This is a finance
Speaker 1: you know, he's a specialist in finance. Now he's been
Speaker 1: moved on into an area that I thought was something
Speaker 1: that the world needs to know more about, and that's
Speaker 1: about how to live. The choices that we make affect
Speaker 1: our life. This brother has studied and I didn't even
Speaker 1: tell you his name. His name is Walter Malik de
Speaker 1: jaun See. And for those don't know, Malite means king.
Speaker 1: Walter Malite Dejon is a now a specialist and a
Speaker 1: student in the way of aging and longevity, and so
Speaker 1: I had to bring him more. This is my fiftieth episode,
Speaker 1: and I wanted it to help meeting and purpose, and
Speaker 1: I thought none other than my beloved brother to come
Speaker 1: and speak to our audience about aging and longevity and
Speaker 1: making choices to live. Welcome my brother. Hey, absolutely honored
Speaker 1: to be here. What you're saying and uh, and you
Speaker 1: will hear me call him Sam from time to time,
Speaker 1: please excuse me. Me and him plays the same fraternity.
Speaker 1: And Uh. I lived with this man a long time.
Speaker 1: Not only have we been friends and brothers for a
Speaker 1: long time and went to school. One of the people
Speaker 1: I'm most proud of in my life. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: know he's I've be told you before, but this man
Speaker 1: at one point was one of the fastest men in
Speaker 1: the world and he's ran in four Olympics, and I
Speaker 1: just grew up being so proud of him and all
Speaker 1: his accomplishments. So it's an honor to be here. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, brother, I remember you starting selling
Speaker 1: books right on Manchester, Yes, sir, but selling books at
Speaker 1: a time where this wasn't popular, meaning they had they
Speaker 1: had they had. Not only did they had no other
Speaker 1: black bookstore options. It was impossible even to find these
Speaker 1: books if you even wanted them. So to see it
Speaker 1: morph and grow into this is just amazing and to
Speaker 1: be here today is awesome. So first off, what I specially,
Speaker 1: I'm certified nutritionists I UM. I got certified through the
Speaker 1: Stanford School of Medicine. And I'm also a certified personal
Speaker 1: trainer through the North American Sports Medicine Association. And uh
Speaker 1: would I what would sparked me to do this? Brother?
Speaker 1: And you you already know we've we've when we became
Speaker 1: Muslim right in the late eighties or early nineties, should've
Speaker 1: been for a long time. What I noticed was me
Speaker 1: changing religions in terms of theology really didn't upset people.
Speaker 1: Meaning when I came home and I said, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm no longer a Christian, I'm a Muslim. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: change and a live God. You know, my family and
Speaker 1: friends really didn't have a huge problem. Oh Muslims, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're they're not Christians. They don't like dude, They're still
Speaker 1: in as bad they believe in the Bible. They got
Speaker 1: another book, the rhynd but it seems to promote positive things, right,
Speaker 1: and they believe in God and they want to be
Speaker 1: good people. Okay, all right, fine, But when I told
Speaker 1: them I had to change my diet, I couldn't eat
Speaker 1: breakfast anymore. You're not eating breakfast, that's you. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna get all yours, You're not gonna pig you, You're
Speaker 1: not gonna eat bacon. It was the dietary changes that
Speaker 1: I made, especially this one. I'm only gonna eat one
Speaker 1: meal a day. Radical. I got so much flak for that.
Speaker 1: So over the years, just because I've had I had
Speaker 1: faith in Elijah Mohammed's teaching and his I really didn't
Speaker 1: know why I was eating one mid of day. I
Speaker 1: just did it because he said so. So when people
Speaker 1: would ask me, you know why you're eating one meal
Speaker 1: a day because Elijah Mohamed said so, it's like what
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, that doesn't sound very intelligent.
Speaker 1: We know a lot of things. Just let somebody say
Speaker 1: don't do it right. So so if I have faith
Speaker 1: in him, okay, that's one thing, but I should have
Speaker 1: the intelligence level to explain why I'm doing something and
Speaker 1: where the benefit comes from. So I began my journey,
Speaker 1: and we had a we're living in a time where
Speaker 1: we information is ready available and technology allows us to
Speaker 1: know things we just didn't know in a lot of days.
Speaker 1: So we're an age of knowing. Yes, everything is being revealed,
Speaker 1: like the books say, right, even in the world of science,
Speaker 1: huge revelations. So I began to get into the world
Speaker 1: of nutrition, and that's that's where UM been studying this
Speaker 1: kind of stuff for about twenty five years. Right. So
Speaker 1: now we're seeing, as you said, as technology and science evolves,
Speaker 1: the things that we learned in terms of dietary protocol,
Speaker 1: we're now getting the answers on why we do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: you talked about a Nobel prize being one because of
Speaker 1: particular aging protocol. That protocol is called atop of gy. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we hit four kind of
Speaker 1: contextual um processes. I want to make sure we talk
Speaker 1: about a state of four states of the body. One
Speaker 1: state is called hormesis, one state is called hormesis, and
Speaker 1: one state is called autopagy. Okay, I want to make
Speaker 1: sure we cover those. Now, let's talk in terms terms
Speaker 1: of fasting. I want that's the fourth one. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about fasting fast. It should be familiar to everyone,
Speaker 1: right because Jesus fasted, right, all the old patriarchs fasted.
Speaker 1: Fasting has been a part of say, human behavior for
Speaker 1: thousands of years. Not a part of Western culture really right, right?
Speaker 1: Not part of American culture. But fasting has been known,
Speaker 1: but we didn't understand the benefits. That's where to Fay
Speaker 1: comes in. There was a psychologist, and what a psychologist is.
Speaker 1: A psychologist is a cellular biologist. A psychologist studies the
Speaker 1: functions of seals. Meaning all your sell is your skin,
Speaker 1: sell heart, cell muscles, What do they do? What are
Speaker 1: they functions? Right? Just he's like a mechanic. Mechanic knows
Speaker 1: everything about your car with the with the transmission, does
Speaker 1: with the sparks plugs, dude with the steering? When he
Speaker 1: knows everything about Well, if we know everything about how
Speaker 1: its self functions, then we can see how we can
Speaker 1: keep the cell healthy. If we can keep up self healthy,
Speaker 1: then really how long can we live? Okay? So, um,
Speaker 1: I'm sure most people don't make your in biology and
Speaker 1: probably don't even really care. So why is this important?
Speaker 1: Let's talk about why this is important. So this cellular biologists, right,
Speaker 1: your scenari assuming he began to study cells because that's
Speaker 1: his job. Boring to us, but very important because guess
Speaker 1: what you're all made of. Cells. Cells divide informed tissue.
Speaker 1: Tissue divides forms organs. Organs form you. So we look
Speaker 1: at cell is and how they work. As we get older,
Speaker 1: cells become dysfunctional. Let's take, for example, my brother's beautiful hair,
Speaker 1: and he still have his, but I remember when he
Speaker 1: was a young man, all of this was black black.
Speaker 1: Why is it now some is black and some is great. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a cellular process that happens that produces die. So
Speaker 1: when your hair grows and you're young and the cells
Speaker 1: are healthy, it produces the dye to keep it black.
Speaker 1: As we get older, the cells become dysfunctional and it
Speaker 1: can't produce the dye, and our hair gets great. Same
Speaker 1: things with our eye cells. I didn't wear glasses when
Speaker 1: we're young, right, Okay, so right, So the cellular functions
Speaker 1: start to deteriorate, and that's what they call aging. Yes,
Speaker 1: when yourselfs start to not function the way that they
Speaker 1: used to. And you're saying that because you're studying longer,
Speaker 1: having the aging, that we can turn the clock back
Speaker 1: or we don't have to age at all. Here it
Speaker 1: is as much as these scientists know, they really don't
Speaker 1: know much about a g we're just starting to learn.
Speaker 1: We don't know what makes you age, really what what's
Speaker 1: the underlying causes. But what we do know that there
Speaker 1: is really no reason for you to age. H Why
Speaker 1: because cells are constantly reproducing themselves. You know how you
Speaker 1: don't need to know you you don't, you're not really
Speaker 1: don't need to age. When you're say forty years old
Speaker 1: and you have a baby, does the baby come out
Speaker 1: forty years old? You know, it comes out of infant,
Speaker 1: It comes out brand new. Why because you have the
Speaker 1: ability to make brand new cells in you, Why can't
Speaker 1: you make brand new white cells, brand new brand new
Speaker 1: hair cells, brand new skin cells so you don't have
Speaker 1: saggings and wrinkles. Well, that's where a topic comes in.
Speaker 1: Your body has a system to where if it's put
Speaker 1: in a certain state, it will clean up and recycle
Speaker 1: all the dead We call him sinescent sinescent cells dysfunctional
Speaker 1: cells and use those old parts to make new cells.
Speaker 1: Just like we talked about the mechanic you come in
Speaker 1: with your broken car, he can go to the junkyard,
Speaker 1: go to a car, pick out good parts in that car,
Speaker 1: and that this car, and come back and bring him
Speaker 1: to your car and make your car functional again. Where
Speaker 1: your cells do the same thing as your selves began
Speaker 1: to become more dysfunctional, mainly because of lifestyle choices. And
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. Lifestyle choices make yourselves dysfunctional, not age,
Speaker 1: not years going by. You got to break that down
Speaker 1: because I'm sure people confused about that. Oh yeah, your
Speaker 1: body goes through a function where it automatically cleans up
Speaker 1: all the old dysfunctional cells, uses those parts to make
Speaker 1: new cells, and then your body can function just like
Speaker 1: it did twenty years ago, thirty years ago. So you're
Speaker 1: saying the lifestyle choices that were making as calls the
Speaker 1: A and well, not seventy five of your aging is
Speaker 1: lifestyle fifteen about fifteent genetic. It is a genetic aspect
Speaker 1: of this, but as you can see, the genetic aspect
Speaker 1: is much smaller than the lifestyle choices. Okay, so when
Speaker 1: you when you make certain lifestyle choices, like when you
Speaker 1: make the lifestyle choice not too fast, when you make
Speaker 1: the lifestyle choice say to overeat, when you make the
Speaker 1: lifestyle choice to drink alcohol. All these lifestyle choices, we
Speaker 1: damage ourselves as we make these lifestyle choices. Over the years,
Speaker 1: ourselves become so damaged that they become irreparable. And once
Speaker 1: you reach that stage, that's when you start to go
Speaker 1: into a state of you know, when you're old, you
Speaker 1: become feeble, and when you get older, you die. So
Speaker 1: so the lifestyle choices that we primarily take, the foods
Speaker 1: that we eat, the things that we drink, and the
Speaker 1: way we even you know, act and think, bring about aging.
Speaker 1: And that's important point that you made um the way
Speaker 1: that we think, so I read and how they eat
Speaker 1: to live. The Anlaji Mohammed said that there's people that
Speaker 1: write to me and say, I do everything you said
Speaker 1: in your book, and it didn't help me become any
Speaker 1: more healthy. And then he talked to him about the
Speaker 1: way they think, and he said, you can eat perfectly,
Speaker 1: m but if you don't think good thoughts, if you
Speaker 1: don't have a purpose in life, if you don't surround
Speaker 1: yourself in a circle of people that love you, that
Speaker 1: help you and support you and mentally uplift you, you'll die.
Speaker 1: Just as if you ate poorly. Every day and that
Speaker 1: could be confirmed because you know, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: young people that'll fit this dropping dead. Remember when they
Speaker 1: used to say, you'll tell them I stopped eating pork,
Speaker 1: and they'll say, Grandma ate pork and smoke and she
Speaker 1: lived or ninety. Grandma might have had a good mental
Speaker 1: social lifestyle that helps support her and she couldn't even
Speaker 1: lived longer if she ate. Right, So you never know
Speaker 1: what components you know cause you the age point. That's
Speaker 1: a good point. Now this component about fasting we need
Speaker 1: to discuss because there are different types of the intermediate fast,
Speaker 1: the you know, the water fast, sir um, the eliminade fast.
Speaker 1: They got all all type um. But you said something
Speaker 1: to me one day when when when you're ill, eliminate meals, limonade,
Speaker 1: eating some food. Any time you miss a meal, you
Speaker 1: live longer. And this is how it works, simple when
Speaker 1: you understand it. Okay, So how do you make your
Speaker 1: muscles stronger? Different weights, exhorting it, you know, working out,
Speaker 1: stressing it, stressing it. There you go, and if you
Speaker 1: work your muscle out and stress it, what happens at first? Um?
Speaker 1: You term a lord, you damage damage them. It's a
Speaker 1: little sore, right, but over time they become stronger, stronger.
Speaker 1: This is how all the cells operating your body, when
Speaker 1: they become stressed, they hunker down, going defense mode and
Speaker 1: become stronger. Why, in order to protect themselves in prolonged life.
Speaker 1: Your body is designed to live as long as it
Speaker 1: possibly can. That's what it's designed to do. We are
Speaker 1: taught at the matriarchsal We see in the Bible, Methusilah
Speaker 1: and um uh Noah, all these people who they send
Speaker 1: the Bible lift seven eight nine d years. Those are
Speaker 1: real years. So your body is built to prolonged life. Right,
Speaker 1: So when yourselves are stressed, they go in defense mode
Speaker 1: and become stronger. So we just now have to figure
Speaker 1: out how to stress our body. The number one stressor
Speaker 1: to your body cells is denying them food. When you
Speaker 1: deny your body food, yourselves go in to protection mode
Speaker 1: and they start using all their resources in order to
Speaker 1: strengthen themselves because they saying, hey, we're not getting the
Speaker 1: nutrition we need and without this nutrition, we can't survive.
Speaker 1: So we gotta get stronger because we got to survive
Speaker 1: under these harsh conditions. Once yourselves start doing that, then
Speaker 1: they become stronger. I want you to understand there's a
Speaker 1: difference between fasting and starvation. A starvation is when you
Speaker 1: deprive your body of the minerals and nutrients and food
Speaker 1: that it needs. We're not talking about starvation. We're talking
Speaker 1: about It's like we go to the gym right now
Speaker 1: and I put three hundred pounds on the bar. Right,
Speaker 1: that's gonna overstress your muscles. We want to mildly stress.
Speaker 1: So the National Institution of Health did a study over
Speaker 1: twenty year period with people and have determined now you
Speaker 1: don't have to guess anymore water fast, blah blah blah fast.
Speaker 1: Listen if you if you do not in take food
Speaker 1: for a twenty four hour period, according to the National
Speaker 1: Institute of Health Studies scientific no bro science scientifically, that's
Speaker 1: when you initiate the initial stages of topic twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: If you can go twenty four hours without eating, without
Speaker 1: eating one mild just like you said. So if you
Speaker 1: if you go one million day, don't eat, but drink water.
Speaker 1: When you go into a topics, you can drink water. Right,
Speaker 1: So the twenty four hour period seems to be the
Speaker 1: sweet spot, the sweet spot, right, So me as and
Speaker 1: I call myself. Water don't affect Water doesn't affect it.
Speaker 1: So you don't break your fast with water, water and
Speaker 1: lemon coffee tea. You don't break your fast when you
Speaker 1: don't push sugar. You've broken your fast. Okay. If you
Speaker 1: put a substrate meaning if you if you consume um,
Speaker 1: a fat, a carbohydrate, a sugar, fiber during your fast,
Speaker 1: you've broken your fast. Okay, you can drink water, tea, coffee,
Speaker 1: just you can't eat any substrates. You can't eat any fiber,
Speaker 1: You can't eat any food, You can't eat any carbohydrates,
Speaker 1: you can't eat any sugars during your fast. So what
Speaker 1: I as an aging coach, what I try to tell
Speaker 1: my um, the people I work with. It's tough for
Speaker 1: some people to go straight into a fret. You used
Speaker 1: to eating three meals a day, snacks, you know, So
Speaker 1: I try to give them windows. So initially I'll say, well,
Speaker 1: let's see, you know, if we can eat from twelve
Speaker 1: to eight and don't eat anywhere after eight. So eat, say,
Speaker 1: say you eat lunch, then you can eat during the
Speaker 1: day till eight p m. After a PM, don't eat
Speaker 1: anymore until twelve pm. We'll start there my window is
Speaker 1: two hours. So say, once I take food, I have
Speaker 1: two hours to eat till then I can't eat till
Speaker 1: twenty four hours. And what's your hours? The best hours
Speaker 1: eat you the best words. If you're living on like
Speaker 1: a regular clock, say you don't work at night, you
Speaker 1: work during the day, and you sleep at night. It's
Speaker 1: usually after you finish your day. So anywhere between four
Speaker 1: and seven you take that, you take that block of time.
Speaker 1: So I usually don't recommend going over four hours. So
Speaker 1: say you eat at four, try to get everything you
Speaker 1: eat in in a couple of hours, three or four
Speaker 1: hours max. Okay, okay, and then don't eat anymore so
Speaker 1: you're not at the state of the top of tree,
Speaker 1: top of And let me tell you what the top
Speaker 1: of g you mean. Otto means self Fudgi means eating,
Speaker 1: self eating meaning the cells are going in there and
Speaker 1: eating themselves. Mean they're eating the other bad cells. They
Speaker 1: need help. You're not giving them any any cells, You're
Speaker 1: not giving any food to eat. Right, So what they're
Speaker 1: doing is they're saying, it's a bunch of dead cells
Speaker 1: in here that are dysfunctional. Let's go in there. Just
Speaker 1: like the mechanic he can't go buy a new car.
Speaker 1: He's got to go to the dead cars and pick
Speaker 1: out parts that are still working and use them to
Speaker 1: repair and make the functional cells better. So the cells
Speaker 1: go in and eat themselves. Mean, they go and eat
Speaker 1: the dysfunctional bad cells and take the parts they can use,
Speaker 1: discard the parts that they can't use, and make your
Speaker 1: body whole healthy. And how long should you be in
Speaker 1: that state of a topic? The state of it? Because
Speaker 1: you said you don't get to it into twenty four
Speaker 1: hours right now, So then you initially you start eating,
Speaker 1: So how long are you in that state? So you're
Speaker 1: in that state and this is where science is still
Speaker 1: brother trying to get the details worked out right, So
Speaker 1: say you don't eat for four hours. The top of starts.
Speaker 1: That's why I told you anytime you skip meal, you're
Speaker 1: gonna live longer. So you go four hours, a tough
Speaker 1: agy starts. Then you eat that four hour up. You
Speaker 1: didn't get much, okay, So I'm saying to get the
Speaker 1: most help right soon god minute you finished. It starts
Speaker 1: after you fail. It starts after you finish. You finish
Speaker 1: your digestion, which might take a couple of hours. Then
Speaker 1: you're gonna go into this state. The state becomes more
Speaker 1: and more pronounced the longer you don't eat. That's why
Speaker 1: we're taught that methusela ate once every seven days. I
Speaker 1: think how strong the topic is seven after seven days? Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go with science. The anwarized Mammy has been
Speaker 1: totally redeemed. Okay, there's a state of autopagy that's a
Speaker 1: SuperMac state. It's called chaperone mediated autop for gy. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I have to tech. Chaper A mediated. The top of
Speaker 1: gy is when the point to where a top of
Speaker 1: gy is the strongest. I mean, these cells are absolutely
Speaker 1: superman going through your body, destroying and recycling all the
Speaker 1: dead cells, bringing you to a state of cellular renewal.
Speaker 1: So you must get there after how many days of
Speaker 1: fasting sev three days? Three days? Chaperon mediated the top
Speaker 1: of takes three days. What did the messenger tell us?
Speaker 1: He said heat won the other day and then one
Speaker 1: time a month. What go on? The three day fast
Speaker 1: and three day fast? How do you know that cellular
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm shop was not discovered until a few
Speaker 1: years ago. A top of gy period wasn't discovered until sixteen.
Speaker 1: The Nobel Peace Prize was given for the findings on
Speaker 1: the top of You. How Do You Eat to Live?
Speaker 1: Was written in nineteen sixty seven, but he had been
Speaker 1: promoting that lifestyle since the thirties. And he said that
Speaker 1: God told told me one mill a day and fast
Speaker 1: once a month three days. Yes, And then the book
Speaker 1: he gets even more specific. He says that you should
Speaker 1: start out even one mill of day. He said, by
Speaker 1: the time you're forty, you should have beyond two mills.
Speaker 1: That as you get older, eat less. Why because yourselves
Speaker 1: are fighting all the toxins that that you've been to.
Speaker 1: And in forty eat um one mill every two days.
Speaker 1: They said, try to work yourself to get to one
Speaker 1: meal every other day. Then try to work yourself to
Speaker 1: get to one million. Just do the best you can.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you a great discipline in the world.
Speaker 1: It is a bundle of bood in a society and
Speaker 1: a culture that revolves around gluttony. Right, I mean Black
Speaker 1: Americans are are o and and and you took a
Speaker 1: lot of flaking, a lot of heat because you said
Speaker 1: that eliminating breakfast. You know, that's like break fast, waking
Speaker 1: up eating when the body doesn't need to eat when
Speaker 1: it wakes up. It needs to work. It's actually the
Speaker 1: worst meal of the day. And it was invented by
Speaker 1: a certain group of people who wanted to sell more
Speaker 1: food called breakfast foods and cereals. Right, they wanted to sell.
Speaker 1: So what are we doing to our youth, our kids,
Speaker 1: our children when we believing that we gotta put carbro
Speaker 1: hydraason sugar and glog coleos in front of them as
Speaker 1: soon as they wake up. What you're doing to them
Speaker 1: is actually sending them to the grave early. People always
Speaker 1: ask me, when does the aging process start. The aging
Speaker 1: process actually starts when you're born. When you're born, you're
Speaker 1: at a certain cellular condition. That cellular condition will continue
Speaker 1: to your about thirty, meaning say you're at a consellular
Speaker 1: condition that it will drop very menial until your thirty. Right,
Speaker 1: So say this is the and you live in thirty years,
Speaker 1: you might be here. You can barely tell, right, small
Speaker 1: increment once you get the thirty, it's gonna drop. Once
Speaker 1: you get the forty, it's gonna drop once you get
Speaker 1: to sixty. Wanna see what happens once you get to
Speaker 1: sixty five? That's what happens. Why Because you've been eating
Speaker 1: all these sugary food since you were a baby. It
Speaker 1: takes twenty thirty years to feel the effects of what
Speaker 1: you're feeding these children. It doesn't happen right away. The
Speaker 1: candy bar, it takes time. All the sugar takes time,
Speaker 1: All the carbohydrates take time. The lack of fiber take time.
Speaker 1: The soldiers and over the years until they totally diminish.
Speaker 1: So you get at sixty, you get this absolutely huge
Speaker 1: and gigantic drop off in cellular functionality. And what do
Speaker 1: you start doing? Then you start needing the cane. Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't walk up those stairs no more. I can't,
Speaker 1: says I talked to people about working out, because diet
Speaker 1: and exercise go together. I talk to them about working out,
Speaker 1: and they go, I walk. I get up and walk
Speaker 1: in the morning with my wife and my friends. And
Speaker 1: I look at him like this. Remember when we're at
Speaker 1: USC you used to walk from where we lived in
Speaker 1: the copa house mile and a half from school. You
Speaker 1: would walk all the way there just to go to
Speaker 1: track practice. Just now you want to tell me you
Speaker 1: walked around the block and that was your workout. I
Speaker 1: guess it's the walking. What it's the simplest exercile you
Speaker 1: can do, but it's not for aging because it right,
Speaker 1: it does not work the heart enough. Let me just
Speaker 1: give you a benchmark to tell if you're working out,
Speaker 1: if you're out of breath. It's called hypoxic training. And
Speaker 1: I'm giving you the scientific terms just so you'll know.
Speaker 1: Hypoxic just means out of oxygen. It's just carbon left
Speaker 1: right when you are breathing harder and your heart is
Speaker 1: pumping than you're working out, you're just walking down the street.
Speaker 1: You're not working out to help your longevity. You need
Speaker 1: to be out of breath. Why it's stressing you. That's
Speaker 1: what that out of breathas oxygen. And I also the sign.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying this because I designed workouts strictly
Speaker 1: for longevity. Meaning in the body, there's this principle called
Speaker 1: the principle of specificity, meaning your body is designed to
Speaker 1: do whatever you train it to do, whatever you tell
Speaker 1: it to do, is designed. You have a wonderful daughter
Speaker 1: who runs track, Yeah, let's go work out. And the
Speaker 1: more you worked out with her, what the fastest she
Speaker 1: got fastest, she got right strong as she got because
Speaker 1: her the body the principle of specificity says the body
Speaker 1: must obey her. But if she said on the couch,
Speaker 1: when she would have got faster. Not, because the theory
Speaker 1: of specificity says the body is, I gotta get good
Speaker 1: at sitting on the couch, So it's going to be
Speaker 1: designed to sit on the couch. And you see these
Speaker 1: couch potato bodies walking all around. Right. So on the
Speaker 1: theory of specificity, we have workouts that are designed to
Speaker 1: keep you younger longer, so we can reverse the aging
Speaker 1: process if you catch it long enough. I mean, here's
Speaker 1: the I mean, not catch you long enough, but catch
Speaker 1: it soon enough. Here's the thing. Anytime you start while
Speaker 1: you're while you're living, anytime you start on an aging protocol,
Speaker 1: you will live longer now, but two years off your
Speaker 1: life because you get that back because the clock started
Speaker 1: the minute you started ingesting improper foods, over eating and
Speaker 1: living a you know, a lifestyle this contrary to your purpose.
Speaker 1: And so therefore you know I have to do this
Speaker 1: correct the aging process, and the longevity is already stewed
Speaker 1: at that point, it's already been affected. So when you
Speaker 1: look at my body as one whole system, right, I'm
Speaker 1: nine years younger. M m okay. So I'm around fifty
Speaker 1: fifty one years old on a biological and oh you
Speaker 1: learn clock right. So what I do is now I'm
Speaker 1: I'm more than optimized. So now I can work and
Speaker 1: keep turning my clock back. So my goal is to
Speaker 1: get to say in the next five years. That's that's
Speaker 1: my goal. So when I'm here, now look, look, look, look,
Speaker 1: look didn't the fountainer you is fasting? Fasting is the
Speaker 1: fountain of you. Absolutely, Now let me give you and
Speaker 1: I'll give you the five I'll give you the five
Speaker 1: most important things. Right if if we Dr David Sinclair,
Speaker 1: who is the head of aging at at Harvard University,
Speaker 1: he was asked the question, you know, what's the one
Speaker 1: thing that we can do the low hanging fruit, the
Speaker 1: one easy thing we can do to live longer? Miss meals.
Speaker 1: So we covered that right. Any time you miss miss
Speaker 1: you miss a meal for twenty four hours, you are
Speaker 1: going to start putting yourself in a very healthy state.
Speaker 1: Number two, diet, you need to have the proper diet.
Speaker 1: Number Three, you need to work out. You need to
Speaker 1: work out what kind of workouts they need to be
Speaker 1: high intensity interval training workouts. How would you define that
Speaker 1: in terms of someone who's don't have good mobility and
Speaker 1: is sixety, you know seventy, how are they gonna do it?
Speaker 1: You know, high intensity training. So we have elderly protocols
Speaker 1: for training, we have cancer patient protocols, we have UM
Speaker 1: say if you have certain physical abnormalities, are injuries protocols
Speaker 1: for training. So you would need to see your personal
Speaker 1: trainer and they can do a physical assessment. So I
Speaker 1: do a physical and cardiovascular assessment of any UH person
Speaker 1: that I'm coaching prior to giving the workout, so we'll
Speaker 1: see where you're at and then we can say, okay,
Speaker 1: this is what I can recommend. Because you're right, some
Speaker 1: people can't do everything. We're all a unique at different places.
Speaker 1: I think you stopped off at working out. What's together?
Speaker 1: So so so you have you have UM diet and fasting,
Speaker 1: you have working out. Now you have to expose your
Speaker 1: body to extreme heat. You have to expose your body
Speaker 1: the extreme cold. Any time you stress yourself, they're gonna
Speaker 1: get stronger. So I'm telling you what kind of stressors.
Speaker 1: Stress them by fasting, stress them by working out, stress
Speaker 1: them by exposing So going to sagna for a little
Speaker 1: while heat. Remember you used to do it that the
Speaker 1: ice baths and when you're when you're when your ankle
Speaker 1: was andreed sticking in ice detox and the sign up
Speaker 1: there you go, Yes, exposure to extreme heat expose you
Speaker 1: to extreme cold. What about being in the sun getting
Speaker 1: that vitamin D outside? That ain't that don't qualify absolutely
Speaker 1: what it qualifies, but not as unless you're in extreme heat.
Speaker 1: What you should do that every day for at least
Speaker 1: twenty minutes a day, especially if you're a melanated person,
Speaker 1: a darker skinned person, because um, you absorbed in control
Speaker 1: the rays of the sun better than lighter skinned people.
Speaker 1: And you see that with scientifically, I mean you know
Speaker 1: you can go read papers on it. You saw it
Speaker 1: in the black panther with the black suit. That absorbing
Speaker 1: energy you can absorb, right, so that means that it's
Speaker 1: going to be tougher for you. It's really hardly. I
Speaker 1: don't think any foods we can get vitamin D from.
Speaker 1: Your body produces vitamin D from sunlight. Okay, you can't
Speaker 1: eat and get vitamin D. You have to get it
Speaker 1: from sunlight is the main source. But you're melanated and
Speaker 1: you absorb the sun. It doesn't. It metabolizes at a
Speaker 1: slower rate and you so when you're melanate, you need
Speaker 1: more time in the sun than someone who doesn't reflect
Speaker 1: the sun. They just all the rage, just the UV
Speaker 1: rage just coming. Ah. So that's why he gets sun
Speaker 1: burned easy and darker skinned people don't. You have to
Speaker 1: stand the sun a little longer. So you should maybe
Speaker 1: thirty minutes if you're melanated, stand the sun every day
Speaker 1: to get your vitamin D. But what I'm talking about
Speaker 1: is go in that hot sauna where you can barely
Speaker 1: as much as you can stand, and then go in
Speaker 1: ice really cold environments for long as you can stand.
Speaker 1: I have I made my own ice um therapy at
Speaker 1: my house, so chronics. A lot of people go into
Speaker 1: those ice chambers, you know, hyper hyperbolic right where where
Speaker 1: you denying yourself oxygen, you're denying yourself um. You know
Speaker 1: you be in too hot, You're being all these things,
Speaker 1: stress yourself. The one last thing you need healthy social environments.
Speaker 1: You need a purpose in life. Meaning if you're living
Speaker 1: a purposeful life and are at peace, then you're putting
Speaker 1: your body into a state where it could proform itself
Speaker 1: because it's happy. If you surround yourself with love, kindness, understanding. Yes,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna live longer. Let me give you an
Speaker 1: exact Purpose is important. Purpose is important if you got
Speaker 1: to add value to your life. It has value to
Speaker 1: every day you wake up and give you meaning. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's important man. And like he told you, I was
Speaker 1: into finance. I like finance. It wasn't necessarily you know
Speaker 1: what I thought was my calling. But I do this
Speaker 1: out of purpose. The black man does something the best
Speaker 1: on this planet. He's the best at it. Nobody's better
Speaker 1: at him than this one thing. Do you know what
Speaker 1: that is? Dying? The black man in America dies faster
Speaker 1: and better than anyone else. Well, that's my purpose to
Speaker 1: help my people. We got to turn that around, right,
Speaker 1: We gotta turn that around. And I know in these
Speaker 1: books they tell you about all this, you know is
Speaker 1: a dangerous specie out here written about that. We dined
Speaker 1: left and right, absolutely, but nobody now today is directly
Speaker 1: forcing us to drink soda all the time. There's water
Speaker 1: in that store, in the liquor store. You have a
Speaker 1: choice between a bottle of water and a soda. You
Speaker 1: do have that choice. So we can't blame others for everything.
Speaker 1: We can take it upon ourselves to make lifestyle choices
Speaker 1: that are healthing, not making good choices. We're not It
Speaker 1: is a aspect to health care. Health Care is expensive.
Speaker 1: Right to get DNA work done sometimes can cost five
Speaker 1: Who has that all the time? Right, Yes, I get
Speaker 1: it done once a year. I get my blood work
Speaker 1: done once every three years, just like me and you
Speaker 1: were talking earlier. Uh sins uh. A disease can come
Speaker 1: out the blue. So say you go get your physical
Speaker 1: today and you're okay, just like that running stream the
Speaker 1: new cells that comes. Some dysfunction can happen or you're
Speaker 1: not gonna know till you go back to the doctor
Speaker 1: a year later. Yes, the average black person that I coached,
Speaker 1: especially the man, has not been to see the doctor
Speaker 1: in about ten years. Yeah, So we got to take
Speaker 1: better care of ourselves, and we have to know what
Speaker 1: lifestyle choices we need to make to live longer and younger. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you know that's profound that we do black
Speaker 1: men do. And we two black men sitting here, we
Speaker 1: do one thing better than any other people on the
Speaker 1: planet that's dying the whole planet. And uh, and we
Speaker 1: need to you know, We thank god that people trying
Speaker 1: to address that and attract that, you know, because that's unfortunately,
Speaker 1: you know, we've been dying for too long. It's been
Speaker 1: going on too long since and and this is the
Speaker 1: this is the thing we gotta think of. This is
Speaker 1: why I had to make this my fifth episode, because
Speaker 1: the black Man is in a dangerous species and we
Speaker 1: need to turn this around. And the only way to
Speaker 1: do it we gotta have information, and we gotta be
Speaker 1: ready to change. And change is difficult for many of us.
Speaker 1: You know, we we we you know, we're stiff necked,
Speaker 1: hard here and rebellious. We get shutting our ways, and
Speaker 1: it's costing us our lives. It's costing us literally costing
Speaker 1: us our lives. And this is a sad art. You
Speaker 1: have this aspect of life called mortality. That means when
Speaker 1: you die, say you die at eighty or you die
Speaker 1: at seventy. My grandfather lived to sixty five. But you
Speaker 1: have a that's life span. You have another aspect of
Speaker 1: life called morbidity. That's called health span. How many of
Speaker 1: your years are healthy years? Meaning when you're not visiting
Speaker 1: the doctor constant. Yeah, you're you're you're living, but you're
Speaker 1: going to dialysis, you're on a a high blood pressure medicine.
Speaker 1: You're only living because you're taking your diabetes medicine, your
Speaker 1: hypertension medicine. You're only living because you have that surgery
Speaker 1: and they put stints in your heart. That's why you're living.
Speaker 1: Your health span has already ended. The average black man
Speaker 1: health span ends eleven years before he dies, so he
Speaker 1: lives almost a decade or more sick and disease. So
Speaker 1: not only are you going to the CRAVERO, we're losing
Speaker 1: right our health ten years before we even go to
Speaker 1: the grave. And that's what we gotta solve because every
Speaker 1: every disease I name, whether it's hypertension, whether it's diabetes,
Speaker 1: whether it's high cholesterol, I mean, heart disease, Parkinson's, dementia, Alzheimer's,
Speaker 1: those are largely lifestyle related disease as you are in
Speaker 1: that state because of how you are living, in your diet,
Speaker 1: and you can change that living and dyet, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: all due to your choices. And that's why you know
Speaker 1: and and and when me and and and brother talk
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, I'm so staunch on one aspect and
Speaker 1: he kind of has to even me out sometimes because
Speaker 1: I know sayings. I know it's conspiracies out there to
Speaker 1: kill us, and I know it's racial inequalities, and sometimes
Speaker 1: playing the race card it's fair and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I get it, But I just want to just promote
Speaker 1: responsibility even among all that with freedom come responsibility, and
Speaker 1: we haven't executed. We have a responsibility because we're free
Speaker 1: to make different choices, to make different choices, and we
Speaker 1: choose to choose death. And then you want to play
Speaker 1: the race card. It's just not gonna fly with me.
Speaker 1: You chose soda, you chose chips, you chose fatty foods.
Speaker 1: Who you're gonna blame. Then you want to tell me
Speaker 1: how bad the medical industry is because you couldn't get
Speaker 1: your heart surgery because it was too expect We gotta
Speaker 1: take responsibility, We gotta take responsible choices, and we got
Speaker 1: to look in the mirror and say, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: I did this to myself. Well, Walter, this has been
Speaker 1: very enlightening, refreshing. I know it's a mouthful for my audience,
Speaker 1: and we really appreciate you celebrating this faith happy to
Speaker 1: be here, you know, because this fiftith episode, this is
Speaker 1: like man enlightening informing them. We're trying to get life. Man,
Speaker 1: We're trying to turn this around, you know, and we
Speaker 1: can you know, we absolutely can't. We can win this fight.
Speaker 1: And that's why I wouldn't be in a fight that
Speaker 1: I knew we were gonna lose. We can win this
Speaker 1: fight easy, easy. So I appreciate you, thank you, and
Speaker 1: I like for you to um if my audience can
Speaker 1: reach you. Uh is there a number or email or
Speaker 1: social media or something, because uh, you know, you are
Speaker 1: in the business of, you know, helping people rather make
Speaker 1: proper choices and live longer. Yes, sir, if you want
Speaker 1: to follow me and contact me, it's best to do
Speaker 1: it on Facebook. I have a Facebook group called Health
Speaker 1: link Aging Institute. It's the Health link Aging Institute, and
Speaker 1: on that site, I post various um studies, I promote,
Speaker 1: I promote various information and it's strictly about aging and health.
Speaker 1: My job is to keep people living as long as
Speaker 1: humanly possible. So Health link Aging Institute on Facebook. Hello,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you brother for having me. I told
Speaker 1: you I was coming by this week with the leak
Speaker 1: blil Bank. The election is over and it's just a
Speaker 1: continuation of some of the things that happened during the
Speaker 1: election because of the big things said carry bass what
Speaker 1: one mayor of Los Angeles City? That's right. So as
Speaker 1: someone who lived in Balden Hills at one point in time,
Speaker 1: but still have a business located in Baldwin Hills, Crashaw
Speaker 1: Marty History Mars, y'all mall, the oldest mall I'm understanding
Speaker 1: in the country seventy four years long. Since Malik Books
Speaker 1: is located in Los Angeles City? What would you like
Speaker 1: to see our new mayor priorities be once she takes office? Now,
Speaker 1: normally I would have April read the question. Boy, I'm
Speaker 1: going to have to read the question all right. This
Speaker 1: is from Nathan in South at l A. Malik. You
Speaker 1: sell books. I sell briskets and ribs out of my
Speaker 1: food truck. But I'm trying to open my own brick
Speaker 1: and mortar restaurant sometime in How did you choose the
Speaker 1: location for your stories. It's a big decision and if
Speaker 1: I get it wrong, my restaurant will be doomed before
Speaker 1: we even open. Thanks for your advice. Well, let me
Speaker 1: tell you something. Let me tell you something. First, of
Speaker 1: all the three rules for business, I don't care if
Speaker 1: the restaurant or any type of business. But the three
Speaker 1: rules is location, location, location. You gotta put your business
Speaker 1: in the right location. You gotta do your research, you
Speaker 1: gotta demographics matters. All businesses are different, and you know,
Speaker 1: so you you gotta man examine what you're trying to
Speaker 1: sell versus what I'm trying to sell. You know, so
Speaker 1: my decision might not be the right decision for you,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell you this. People moving like schools of fish.
Speaker 1: So my suggestion is, Hey, if you ain't got a
Speaker 1: marketing budget, then you need to set up where the
Speaker 1: fish is already going. That's why Malik Books is located
Speaker 1: in malls. I started this bookstore. I didn't have any
Speaker 1: marketing money, but I knew where the people was going.
Speaker 1: I set up right there, and they eat the fish,
Speaker 1: they eat the books and buy the books. There you go.
Speaker 1: That's how I made my decision. And um, I look
Speaker 1: for the right different graphics in the right situation, and
Speaker 1: you gotta do the same. Now. The next question is
Speaker 1: from Kennedy and Crisshaw. Okay, Malik, my mom loves to read, read, read.
Speaker 1: I have trouble finding her books that she hasn't read
Speaker 1: what would be a great book to get her for
Speaker 1: Christmas that she has definitely not read before. Man, come
Speaker 1: on now, let me tell you this right now. The
Speaker 1: holiday book is Michelle Obama The Light We Carry Overcoming
Speaker 1: and Uncertain Times. That is a continuation of her last
Speaker 1: book a few years ago called Becoming, which was one
Speaker 1: of the biggest best sellers of all time. It was
Speaker 1: a holiday book, and this is a holiday book. Michelle's
Speaker 1: Obama The Light We Carry Overcoming in Uncertain Times. That's
Speaker 1: the book. That's the book right there, that's the inspirational book.
Speaker 1: You know, her life is extraordinary, incredible, and you know,
Speaker 1: words don't express you know, the significance and her being
Speaker 1: married to Barack Obama. And let me say this, you know,
Speaker 1: overcoming and uncertainime. We do live in uncertain times. And
Speaker 1: I think that she's offering some insight into what what
Speaker 1: you can do in this time of despair for a
Speaker 1: lot of people where you know, things in the world
Speaker 1: and the economy is you know, is growing and changing,
Speaker 1: and hardship is among us in terms of inflation and recession.
Speaker 1: So these are uncertain times in the direction of country
Speaker 1: is trying to go in is divided anyway. You might
Speaker 1: have personal situations going on in your life, and you
Speaker 1: might need some advice on how to navigate in your
Speaker 1: marriage and your and and and your children and so forth.
Speaker 1: So this book The Light We Carry, because look, changes
Speaker 1: in you and the light is in you. So whatever
Speaker 1: you want to be or change to or evolving too, well,
Speaker 1: I guess what the light comes out of you. So hey,
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