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Speaker 3: We'll get into my conversation with Romona Singer right after

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Speaker 3: these quick ads.

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Speaker 2: Hey, rain drops.

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Speaker 3: Today we have an exclusive and exclusive with one of

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Speaker 3: my top ten greatest housewives of all time, Yes, Ramona Singer.

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Speaker 3: Informative, juicy, I mean, Ramona answered at the single question

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Speaker 3: an investigation that was launched due to accusations that Ramona

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Speaker 3: she would like to return to the Real Housewives of

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Speaker 3: New York City Legacy edition. This interview is for the books.

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Speaker 3: Without further ado, Here is my conversation with Ramona Singer.

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Speaker 3: I am here with the legend, the pop icon, the woman.

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Speaker 3: No matter what situation she's in, she makes it funny.

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Speaker 3: She may not make it nice, Derinda, but she makes

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Speaker 4: That's very sweet thing.

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Speaker 3: No, listen, I'm so happy you're on this podcast. You

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Speaker 3: You are in my top ten of the greatest housewives

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Speaker 3: An opportunity to see some freshness, to see people who

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Speaker 5: He's quick ass.

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Speaker 3: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back into my conversation.

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Speaker 2: With Ramona Singer. Do you think Ebony is responsible.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can blame a person. I think

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Speaker 1: loosened up we felt more comfortable around her. We were

439
00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,000
Speaker 1: on pins and needles and it was fabulous. We all

440
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,360
Speaker 1: left on a fabulous note. And then again, she likes

441
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 1: to write things in the press and the PR department

442
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 1: could't control her. She would say things and give interviews

443
00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 1: that she shouldn't have given, and she'd say things she

444
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said.

445
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 4: That you know, really were hurtful, not really truthful.

446
00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: It was her viewpoint, but it was just it made

447
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: us feel not good because you know, we're a team. Look,

448
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, you and I can fight on the show,

449
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to say something shitty about you

450
00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 1: to the press once the show's over, Like, why, what's

451
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 1: the point of that? So I think what she said

452
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: something about that we didn't this, and I called her

453
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Speaker 1: on and I had dinner with her, that we dehumanized her.

454
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 1: She felt less than human because we were more sympathetic

455
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,119
Speaker 1: to Leah losing her grandmother than her losing her grandmother.

456
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, when I went out with her, we

457
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: went to j Arago, but you didn't talk about her.

458
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 1: Leah was constantly crying about our grandmother, telling us left

459
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: and right, you're our new friend. We're not going to

460
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: be in truth. So if we're trying to be polite,

461
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: you didn't devolt how upset you were. Yet she turned

462
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 1: it around and made this all look I think really

463
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: bad and it really hurt my feelings terribly. And I said,

464
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,120
Speaker 1: promise to me, if you ever have a problem, come

465
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 1: to me directly.

466
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 4: Let's talk it out.

467
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 1: Don't go to the press to say things that you

468
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 1: haven't even talked through us. She's well, you know, i'd

469
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 1: watch the show and I see things that get me upset.

470
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 1: I said, don't pick up the phone so she would

471
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 1: run to the press, and that was just upsetting to

472
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: all of us.

473
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 2: Where does your relationship stand now with Ebony Well?

474
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: I called her again recently.

475
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: She was avoiding my call for a month or two,

476
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: and I said, I don't understand why you report me

477
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,120
Speaker 1: to human Resources as a racist.

478
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 4: You know I'm not.

479
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm a lot of things, but I'm not that, And

480
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you would say that.

481
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 4: And she's well, because you know.

482
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: Day from people told me ABC and d Well, I

483
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 1: know Dave never said that. Plus I know I knew

484
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Speaker 1: for a fact other things that she said that came

485
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 1: back to me from head people at Bravo, which they said,

486
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Speaker 1: I don't know where she got this information.

487
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 4: She's making it up. We never said that.

488
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: So she was found wrong on a lot of accounts

489
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 1: on her accusations that were complete, complete non truth that

490
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Speaker 1: maybe she thought were true in her mind. And by

491
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Speaker 1: I say she lied, maybe in her mind she thought

492
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: they were true, or maybe somebody else told her it

493
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: was hearsay. So and hearsay. It's like what they call

494
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: that telephone game, you know. So I called her up

495
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: and she said that's the only thing I said, and

496
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 1: you know, and only this is the craziest thing.

497
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 4: Okay. So when I was.

498
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: Getting investigated, the lawyers are calling me up and I

499
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: had no idea this was going on. And I'm an

500
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: Aspen and I rented a place there for the month,

501
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: and they're saying, well, you have these allegations. And I said,

502
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to be threatened and

503
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,639
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be intimidated by this because you

504
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: could be. I'm just going to be Ramona and just

505
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: be totally calm and not answer yes or no and

506
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: make it like a conversation. And I said, well, I'm

507
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: really shocked that she made these accusations against me because

508
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: I have a video of her on my phone saying, Ramona,

509
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: I saw you much that happens.

510
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: You're so girl and Sista, you and I have the

511
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 4: same taste.

512
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: See that outfit you got from Camilla with love, I

513
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: got the same one. And my mama, she loves you.

514
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 1: She thinks you're the best thing. And they go their

515
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: mouth chop, they go, when did you get this? I go,

516
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 1: August something was like after I guess she made even

517
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 1: the accusations and I sent them the video.

518
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 4: They were shocked.

519
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,679
Speaker 1: So she's acting like she's my best friend and she

520
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: loves me, but yet she's accusing me of horrendous things

521
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: that could ruin my career.

522
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 4: You're actually you know, because that's a horrible thing.

523
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: I mean, actually you know some things I was her

524
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: career wise because of her accusations.

525
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: You were, Yeah, financially like endorsements, yes, yes, yes.

526
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 1: They go, we know she's not, but you know we

527
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: can't go there right now. So yeah, I lost a

528
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: lot of money because of Ebanie. Well listen, we lost

529
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: the reunion six figures, we lost doing another show seven figures,

530
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, I lost a lot of money.

531
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Speaker 2: Ebony, thank you Are you the only one who feels

532
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: this way?

533
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: Or do your other cast members feel the way but

534
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: they're too afraid to talk about it publicly.

535
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: You know, you're making me feel so comfortable that I

536
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: would never talk about this publicly. So I hope I

537
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: don't get an outcry from this. But they all feel

538
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: this way, yes, and we all like Ebany. It's not

539
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 1: like we don't like her.

540
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: You know.

541
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: Lewyenne finally met with her and she's fine with her.

542
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's just I don't know. Ebanie just has

543
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: a stick up her. But sometimes I don't know. I

544
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I'm not I don't know

545
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: Ebony that well, you know, but you know she has

546
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: a relationship with Sonya, she made up with Luyne.

547
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: Leah always cared about her.

548
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: I always liked her, and you know, we're just really

549
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: we're stunned and shocked by how things went down, and

550
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: they should not have gone down that way.

551
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 2: Are you going to be a part of roney legacy?

552
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: I really don't know. Number One, I don't know if

553
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 1: I will be, And then I don't know if I

554
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: want to do it again.

555
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 2: Why.

556
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: For a lot of reasons, I'm much calmer now that

557
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: I haven't done the show, I don't like I know

558
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 1: this is like an oxymoron, but I really don't like

559
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: being recognized, like, oh my god, it's you, Ramona.

560
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: I know you're in a date.

561
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: I have a photo, you know. I just I don't

562
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: like all the attention. And guess what. The men I

563
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: date don't like all the attention.

564
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 4: How about you?

565
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: My girlfriends. My girlfriends, don't you know, they'll say, oh

566
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: my gosh, Ramona, I used to go out to lunch

567
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: with you and twenty people would come up to you.

568
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: Now it's only one, you know, So I don't like

569
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 1: all the attention. I really don't like the press. The

570
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: press stressed me at with the whole all of that

571
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: stuff that was really really very hurtful and made me

572
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 1: really unhinged, I mean unhinged. And I realize now I'm

573
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: so much more relaxed. All my friends say I'm fifty

574
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: percent more calmer. I still have that high energy, but

575
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: I'm not as heart ass. I'm just there's something more gentle,

576
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm actually able to date now in

577
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: a better way. And I just think it's you know,

578
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: I've been there for a long time. I mean never

579
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: say no, never say never. But I also feel like

580
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: the legacy the cow how can it be really good?

581
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: The people who they are going to bring back are

582
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: people they didn't want to renew anyway.

583
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: So now, so what are you gonna call it? The

584
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 4: loser show?

585
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: A legacy Ramona?

586
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 3: So allegedly legacy would be I mean, listen, and I

587
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: want to say this to you, And I mean when

588
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 3: I say, there's no Roney without Ramona Singer in our world,

589
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 3: right the Housewives fans, the historians, we believe the legacy

590
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: is Ramona Singer, lou Anne, Sonya, Dorinda, maybe Bethany, which

591
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: I get to later, and allegedly Kelly, ben Simone and

592
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: Jill Zarn Is that a cast you can get down with?

593
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, because you know, I like Kelly, we

594
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 1: have a friendship. But I think she's beautiful and she's

595
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: smart and she's successful. But there's a reason why she

596
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: was let go after one and a half seasons or

597
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: two seasons. You know, Sonya's been on for like, you know,

598
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: ten seasons, Lawanne, you know a long time, me a

599
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: long time.

600
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: Jill.

601
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: They got rid of her after three seasons. There was

602
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: a reason for that, and I like chill. She lives

603
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: in my building. We're friends. I had Russia shawna dinner

604
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: with her. But I just, you know, from a producer

605
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: point of view, yeah, yeah, for a selfishport of but yeah,

606
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: this is good.

607
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 4: I'll get paid money, it'll be good, I'll be fun. No,

608
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 4: from a producer point of view, I don't think it's

609
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 4: such a good idea.

610
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 3: What would you like to see if Ramona had the

611
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: right to cast women around her? Who would be around

612
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: Ramona on a new Roney Legacy or whatever.

613
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 2: Type of show.

614
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: No, I would just you know, go with me Luan

615
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: and Sonya bring on some new cast members. I think

616
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: people you know, near like in their forties. We're sure

617
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: women who are successful in their own right, whether they're

618
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: married or not married. Diirinda, she Diirinda. I'm not sure

619
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: if she should be a full cast member. If I

620
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: make her a part time cast member, and then if

621
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: she proved herself the next season, make her a full

622
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: time cast member. Because something's happened that weren't which she knows,

623
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: which was difficult during Ronie where they called me up

624
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: like what's wrong with Derinda? We're watching the tapes and

625
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: she's so mean, can you help her?

626
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: Can you fix her? Because you know they would always

627
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: call me, you know.

628
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: This person's doing this, and I was always like the

629
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: group leader, and I always would think, like a producer,

630
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, not.

631
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: I'd watch out.

632
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: You have the force multiplier, whatever you want to call it.

633
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: But I want a successful show. So I think Derinda

634
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: is great TV. She's fabulous TV when she's on. She's on,

635
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: but she does sometimes have a side of her that

636
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: can be very angry, which is not pleasant for viewers

637
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: to watch and tell you the truth is not pleasant

638
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: to be around.

639
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 2: Did you see Deranda on Optimate Girl's Trip.

640
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: I saw a little bit of it.

641
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: What did you think?

642
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 4: I don't know what did you think?

643
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 3: God Marmart, you're such a producer, a force multiplier and

644
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 3: my co host.

645
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: Look, I like Deranda. I love no Derendze's a fun girl. Now.

646
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: Look watching Aultimate Girls Trip, you know that had her

647
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: moments whereb.

648
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: Was like, ooh, girl, let's let's real it.

649
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: Back in, you know, let's really back in because listen,

650
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 3: I think the Randa and you tell me if I'm wrong.

651
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: I think the Randa really wants to make a good

652
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: TV show.

653
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think Miranda puts a lot of pressure

654
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: on herself to make a good TV show, and sometimes

655
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 3: that pressure can mean drinking things to believe yourselves to

656
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: be calm.

657
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: But unfortunately it just makes you more very.

658
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: Well said, very politically correct and polite. I agree, So

659
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: I agree. I could have said it better.

660
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I guess.

661
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 4: That's why I said.

662
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: If I was a producer, I would put her on

663
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: full I put her on as a friend and then

664
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: work her way up. Yeah now or and if she

665
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: and I would tell her this sis a producer, but

666
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: I make her a friend. And if she proved herself

667
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: after you know, taping for three weeks or four weeks

668
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: or for the whole season, if she just continued to gin,

669
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: I would just make her a full person and she

670
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: would never people would know she was a friend. You'd

671
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: make her for a full fledged housewife. But just give

672
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: her that little goal, that challenge, so maybe she can

673
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: relax herself in a more natural way.

674
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: You know, Yes, Milestones, I love that you're such a producer.

675
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: I love it. What about Bethany? Do you think Bethany's

676
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: needed for the show.

677
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Bethany is always great for TV. She really is Bethany'll

678
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: never come back.

679
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 4: I don't think. Oh, I can never say, never really said,

680
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 4: so I don't know. I don't think.

681
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: I think she's in a different place now. You know,

682
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: she has a significant other in her life. Her daughter's

683
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: getting older. She realized how precious time is with her child.

684
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: It goes so fast. So she's able to do her

685
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: podcast remotely from her home, which is fabulous. So she's

686
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: still getting you know, everyone loves a little bit love

687
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: and attention from the fans, so she's getting that, and

688
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: she's making money. She has a mark made and doing

689
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: extremely well. So you know, if I was her and

690
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: her shoes, I wouldn't be doing the show, that's for sure.

691
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: Do you think when Bethany was on the show the

692
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: show was better?

693
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: The show is different.

694
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was necessarily better, because when

695
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: she left season three season four, our ratings improved, they

696
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: didn't get less, So if it was going to be so,

697
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: she left at the height of our popularity, and yet

698
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: season four the ratings were even higher.

699
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: How do you feel now that Bethany is being referred

700
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 3: to as a TikTok influencer.

701
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: I don't really pay that much attention to TikTok, But

702
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: I know she's doing it, and if she is good

703
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: for her.

704
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: Are you surprised that?

705
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: No, because you know Bethany's very bright. She's a really

706
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: smart girl, and she goes. She knows the trends, so

707
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: what's happening? She knows the trends and she gets behind it,

708
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: you know she does. And she's very smart that way.

709
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: And I know she's doing something that was kind of

710
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: funn I think she did stuffing stuff with the makeup,

711
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: so maybe she's a come up the makeup line and

712
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was really fun, like this is good,

713
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: this is bad.

714
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 4: I like this, I don't like this, and I think

715
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 4: she's hysterical.

716
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 3: Do you want to continue in reality TV? If roney

717
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: Legacy is not a possibility, if that show wants you

718
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 3: back or you don't want to go back, does that

719
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: mean Ramona Singer is finished with reality television?

720
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's a very good question, and I

721
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: can't really answer that. I don't know.

722
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I know enjoy it and I know I'm

723
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: really good at it, but I don't know. I don't

724
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: know if maybe I'm at a different stage in my

725
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: life right now and I want to do something different,

726
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know.

727
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 4: I can't answer that.

728
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 3: Well, we love seeing you on television and we miss you.

729
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: And the other person who missed you was Teresa at

730
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: her wedding. Ramona, you did not show up to Teresa's wedding.

731
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I know what happened.

732
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Well, she was filming it. It's all about the film crew,

733
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to be part of the film crew.

734
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm living a beautiful life right now with

735
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: beautiful friends. I didn't want to be part of the circus.

736
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: It was a circus. And I love Teresa, and I

737
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: know she's very happy with her husband.

738
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: Treats her beautifully and they're very in love.

739
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, so when you discover, Ramona Singer that in

740
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: a spirit of happiness and celebration of love, you mistakenly

741
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: posted Teresa's imitation with the website and past were included.

742
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: When you found out you made that mistake, who was

743
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: the first person to call you to tell you?

744
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 4: Teresa in three minutes, Ramona, take it down, Take it down.

745
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 4: Go what are you talking about the invitation? Ramona?

746
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: I go, oh my gosh, because in my own mind,

747
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: I don't consider us famous or celebrities.

748
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 4: I mean, I know we are, but I'm just kind

749
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: of my own little world and I didn't think about

750
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 4: her that way too.

751
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: I was just so excited to get the most gorgeous

752
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: invitation I ever saw in my life, and I wanted

753
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: to share it with every like, oh, this is good things.

754
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: As you know, Tom's always saying, who helps me with

755
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: my social media? He's like, can you send me something?

756
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: And you go, oh, this is good. Tom's gonna like this,

757
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: this is good.

758
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 4: Oh no, it wasn't good. Well, it was good, got

759
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: in the press, they got a lot of press.

760
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: Well.

761
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: She also says she had to pay a lot of

762
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 3: money for security, and she feels like you owe her

763
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: some money.

764
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Ramona, I don't think that's true, but okay, I think

765
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: it makes a good story.

766
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: I don't think that's the true.

767
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: And guess what, it was filmed, so Bravo have to

768
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: pay the money and they have deep pockets.

769
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: Who's got a few wedding specials? Ramona, I think you're right.

770
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: So no, no love lost between you and Teresa.

771
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: No.

772
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: I love Teresa. She's a great girl.

773
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm really happy for I mean, she did well on

774
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars, I mean, that had to be

775
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure for her, and she held her

776
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: own and it takes a lot of guts and courage

777
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: to do that. And I think she's in a spectacular place,

778
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: and I'm really proud of her.

779
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,959
Speaker 3: I have to say, I'm really proud of you because

780
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 3: you seem to be in a very good place in

781
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: your life right now. And I know a lot of

782
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 3: people are going to be like, oh please, Ramona, you

783
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: love being famous. But as somebody who spent fifteen years

784
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: working with reality stars who all of a sudden become

785
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: more famous than actors and actresses, I understand that sometimes

786
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: it's nice to have a little bit of anonymity when

787
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: it comes to your life and not having the cameras

788
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: constantly in your face. And I do get the sense

789
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 3: from you that this was a much needed break that

790
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: you may not have thought you needed, especially because of

791
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 3: where we are in the world. You know, in terms

792
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: of social media can be a lot. Like you said,

793
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: the press can even be a lot. And one things

794
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: that people love to talk about when it comes to

795
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: you is is she a Republican, she a Democrat, she

796
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 3: a Trump or she this? And one thing about you

797
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 3: is you've always been very private when it came to

798
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: your life in that arena. Do you feel like there's

799
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: a place on reality television for politics? And do you

800
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: think there's a place on reality TV for conservative women?

801
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: I think there's places for everybod TV. But I don't

802
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: think it has to be a conversation. You know, it's like,

803
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: why do you have to talk about how much money

804
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: you earn? I think that's a private conversation. Or do

805
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: they talk about what religion? You don't think you'd make religion,

806
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,959
Speaker 1: money or politics part of a reality fun TV show?

807
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, we want that. We can watch the view exactly.

808
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: So what's going on in your personal life?

809
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: Are you dating? Is there a hot stud muffin that

810
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: you know you?

811
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: Oh, look at your eyes, Formona, I'm seeing some glistening

812
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 3: in the eyes.

813
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: Are you in love?

814
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 4: How heavy?

815
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: Like i'd be like, is he a Floridian?

816
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: No?

817
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: Okay? Is he a New Yorker?

818
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

819
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: Is he at the Regency?

820
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 4: No?

821
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: What can you tell me about this, Gela man? Because

822
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: your eyes lit up, Romona, your eyes lit up. I

823
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: know how long you guys been dating?

824
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: I really don't want to talk about it, but it's

825
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: it's really it's very it's really nice.

826
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 4: I'm just tell you, it's really nice.

827
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: Are you afraid that if you go back on reality TV?

828
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 3: Do you think it will mess up this relationship?

829
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 1: No, because anybody that's involved with me knows what I do,

830
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: and I keep my personal relationships separate. Very I don't

831
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: think anybody ever knew any gentleman I dated because I

832
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: kept them out of the press and didn't talk about

833
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 1: it because I like my private life to be private.

834
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I know I'm doing reality show, but

835
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: I like my private like private because then it just

836
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: gets too it's too messy.

837
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 3: You would do reality, but you would make sure that

838
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 3: he would never appear because you would want you.

839
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: You would like to keep that separate.

840
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 4: If I did reality, Yes.

841
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. And how's Avery?

842
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: Oh she's great. Just spoke to her. She's in Croatia

843
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: with her dad right now.

844
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, she'll be back in five days or I think

845
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: that zip blinding today. She said, like eight hundred meters high,

846
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: which is about sae eight times three twenty fundred feet,

847
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: which is about half a mile high.

848
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 4: Like, we're just scared.

849
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm so happy for her. And you know what's so funny.

850
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: About Avery, It's sort of like a child star that

851
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: we watched grow up to be an adult.

852
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: I actually called her the Voice of Reason. Oh, she

853
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: was the first season, the voice of Reason. She'd have

854
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: her little pearls on and the little pearls and you know,

855
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't understand how my mom acts like this with

856
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: her friends, Like I just don't know.

857
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 4: She's very cute.

858
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: No, we love Abray, we love Avery.

859
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: So Maramona, when it's all said and done, what would

860
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: you like your legacy to be?

861
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 1: Well, I think the most important thing. Then people and

862
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: Bravo didn't really you know, they decide how they want

863
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: to edit you. I mean, yes, I'm acting certain ways,

864
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: and of course the camera doesn't lie, but they decide

865
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: what they want to focus on, and they don't show

866
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: the whole picture.

867
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 4: So there's a big side of me. Well I am.

868
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm self made. I was the first housewife on Ronie

869
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: that you know. I had my own career, my own money,

870
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: I had my own homes that I paid for successful businesses,

871
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: and they never really showcase that.

872
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: And they do a little bit in the beginning.

873
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: And my mother always told me to be independent, and

874
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: that's why when I got divorced from my ex husband.

875
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: My life style didn't change because I was a big

876
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: earner in that marriage and I had a lot of

877
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Speaker 1: money safe and I know how to make money, and

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Speaker 1: I'm in stealing that in my daughter, and women tell

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Speaker 1: me that they're instilling it in their children. And women

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Speaker 1: tell me how proud they are of me, and how

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Speaker 1: you know, things I did as a first woman on

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Speaker 1: HSN Jewelry, I dealed at Penagrizio, you know, so I

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Speaker 1: did all these business things and I just I just hope,

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Speaker 1: you know, to empower women that way. But the show

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Speaker 1: can't always be it's not always empowering women. Which that's

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Speaker 1: the one thing I didn't like to tell you the

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Speaker 1: truth about Bravo. They they didn't showcase me that way.

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Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times are kind of condescending

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Speaker 1: to women, I think a little bit in my opinion.

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Speaker 4: But it's a fun show and it's escapism.

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Speaker 1: But I think, you know, that's that's the thing that

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Speaker 1: I feel most proud about that when I still get

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Speaker 1: you know, even you know, women dming me I'm in

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Speaker 1: a bad marriage. I need to leave it, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I need to start my own business or you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever you may.

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Speaker 3: Need to do yeah, no, listen, and I think, look,

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Speaker 3: I think you will go down in the realities I

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Speaker 3: guised as one of the greatest reality stars, not just housewives.

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Speaker 3: I think you are probably one of the greatest reality

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Speaker 3: stars to exist because you've always operated in who you

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Speaker 3: were and as somebody who makes a living working with

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Speaker 3: people who become reality stars. I know that sometimes people

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Speaker 3: like to play it to the cameras, or they censor

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Speaker 3: themselves because they don't want to get canceled, and you know,

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Speaker 3: or they they they don't want.

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Speaker 2: To be held responsible for things that happen.

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Speaker 3: And I will say that, unlike most ogs, and I

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Speaker 3: want to give you this, unlike most ogs, you have

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Speaker 3: always been graceful and graceful for the opportunity to the

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Speaker 3: network and to the show, and you have never bad

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Speaker 3: mouthed anything. You've always just been like, you know, it

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Speaker 3: is what it is. I'm going to live my life.

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Speaker 3: And that's the reason why Ramona, I really want to

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Speaker 3: say thank you for coming on the podcast, because I

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Speaker 3: know you don't do a lot of press, honey, and

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Speaker 3: this means the world to me because it is the

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Speaker 3: fact that you felt so comfortable knowing that this would

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Speaker 3: be a conversation of someone who really wanted.

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Speaker 2: To give you the opportunity to.

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Speaker 3: Express yourself, but to also make sure that you knew

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Speaker 3: that me and a lot of people who look like

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Speaker 3: me and the world, we love you, and we want

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Speaker 3: to see you back on television. And I'm going to

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Speaker 3: say this, there's no fucking legacy without Ramota turtle Time singer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and that's the alternative dictionary turtle Time. How

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Speaker 1: funny is that?

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Speaker 2: Are you in the Webster dictionary?

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Speaker 4: The alternative dictionary?

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Speaker 1: Ah, that was an Emmy moment when I did turtle

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Speaker 1: Time with that, they go, come on, girls, it's turtle

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Speaker 1: Time because it's a turtle club or something. That's an

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Speaker 1: iconic moment for sure. And my runway when it looked

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Speaker 1: like a dear yes, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Now listen, you're a pop icon, you really are.

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Speaker 3: And I just wanted you to know that we love you,

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Speaker 3: we miss seeing you on television, and we're helping that

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Speaker 3: one day we can get that back on television.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's really easy being with you. I can't even

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Speaker 1: believe how I opened up. I was more unfiltered than

941
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Speaker 1: I even intended to be. But it's because of your

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Speaker 1: genuine and warm spirit and energy that made me do it.

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Speaker 1: So good for you, Thank you, mama, that's why you're

944
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Speaker 1: such a good host.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. I like to think so too,

946
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Speaker 2: so I appreciate that. Now, where can people find you?

947
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Speaker 3: Follow you on social media all those wonderful things they

948
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Speaker 3: support you in your business.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm on Instagram, Ramona Singer, there you go.

950
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Speaker 3: And if you happen to become engage and would like

951
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 3: to see them a wedding special, you know who to call.

952
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Speaker 3: You're so funny, Oh rain drops, I cannot wait until

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Speaker 3: I hear from you guys on what you thought about

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Speaker 3: this interview. This one I told y'all it was juicy

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00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: and very informative based on Ramona's point of view and experience.

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Speaker 3: But I want to hear from you guys, so tweet

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Speaker 3: me hashtagging Reality with the King and let me know

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Speaker 3: your thoughts on this interview.

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