Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is the one and
Speaker 1: only Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our
Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West. We are inching ever
Speaker 1: closer to the first round of the two thousand eighteen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. It will be Thursday night, starting at seven
Speaker 1: pm Central Time. So I want to spend a good
Speaker 1: chunk of this show talking about the first round and
Speaker 1: how it might unfold. There are all kinds of scenarios
Speaker 1: as far as how this could go for the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers currently sitting with the number fourteen overall pick.
Speaker 1: Do you have a gut feeling as to who might
Speaker 1: be available, who the Packers might be choosing from, assuming
Speaker 1: they decided to stay at fourteen for now? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you do. Uh, this is the first year I
Speaker 1: think you can confidently say that the the The contrasting
Speaker 1: part to this, though, Mike, is the fact that out
Speaker 1: of all the years that the Packers we're picking near
Speaker 1: the end of the first round, this is probably the
Speaker 1: year where you're getting a little bit more bang for
Speaker 1: your buck at the end of the round, depending on
Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks go, depending on if there's a run
Speaker 1: in a certain player. UM not that saying it will
Speaker 1: be picked through by any means at fourteen, but there
Speaker 1: really seems to be The Packers are right on that
Speaker 1: line right now in terms of where I think you're
Speaker 1: truly going to find the elite players. And then when
Speaker 1: you're starting to find guys a little bit based on projection,
Speaker 1: you have the five quarterbacks. I know Mason Rudolph's name
Speaker 1: now is getting thrown out there too as a potential
Speaker 1: first rounder. I don't know if he ends up in
Speaker 1: that vicinity at all. But then you got that next wave,
Speaker 1: and in the way I look at it, I think
Speaker 1: you have five elite type prospects. As far as the
Speaker 1: defense is concerned, it's Bradley Chubb, believe it's Smith from
Speaker 1: Alabama the linebacker, and then the Georgia from Georgia, and
Speaker 1: then the three defensive backs Derwin James mco Fitzpatrick and
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward. The Packers would be through the moon if
Speaker 1: Ward was available at fourteen. The only question is, though,
Speaker 1: with him being the top natural cornerback in this spot
Speaker 1: and this being a passing league, whether or not he
Speaker 1: can trickle down that far. Yeah, I would say the
Speaker 1: other guy that I'm hearing. If you're talking about that
Speaker 1: the elite defensive prospects, you throw Tremaine Edmunds from Virginia
Speaker 1: Tech into that mix, so that gives you that gives
Speaker 1: you six guys there, um two or three linebackers essentially
Speaker 1: in Chubbs, Smith and Edmonds, and then the three defensive
Speaker 1: backs that you mentioned. Really, this whole thing is going
Speaker 1: to be dictated by the quarterbacks. You've got the top
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks, Alan, Rosen, Donald, and Mayfield. They could go
Speaker 1: in whatever order. Lamar Jackson being talked about as the
Speaker 1: um as the potential fifth quarterback, Sae Kwon Barkley, Quentin
Speaker 1: Nelson running back from Penn State and guard from Notre Dame, respectively,
Speaker 1: also being talked about as as top ten picks, possibly
Speaker 1: even top five or six picks. Um, it's where these
Speaker 1: quarterbacks go that are going to that's going to determine
Speaker 1: who will be there for the Packers on that that
Speaker 1: number fourteen line. And I'm gonna throw one other name
Speaker 1: into the mix as a as a guy to watch
Speaker 1: who could change this holy equation. And I'm talking about
Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey, the left tackle from Notre Dame. Because this
Speaker 1: is a very Matt There you go, Matt Ryan's cousin.
Speaker 1: This is a very thin draft for franchise left tackles,
Speaker 1: and McGlinchey, by all accounts, is probably the best one
Speaker 1: on the board. If somebody who needs a left tackle
Speaker 1: is really really enamored with him, that's another guy who
Speaker 1: maybe sneaks up into the top twelve or thirteen picks
Speaker 1: and then pushes another one of those defensive prospects potentially
Speaker 1: down to number fourteen. But you don't really know. You
Speaker 1: just don't know how this is gonna go there. There
Speaker 1: are any number of ways. There are any number of
Speaker 1: ways it could go. But I agree with you that
Speaker 1: those names you mentioned, particularly the three defensive backs, because
Speaker 1: I don't think Chubb or Smith is going to be
Speaker 1: there at fourteen. I almost write that off, like from
Speaker 1: the beginning, But those three defensive backs, Ward, Fitzpatrick and James,
Speaker 1: if one of those guys is there at number fourteen,
Speaker 1: I think the Packers are going to be pretty happy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And another thing to bring up to and you mentioned McGlinchey.
Speaker 1: This is what you mentioned. It's not a great year
Speaker 1: for a lead offensive tackles. Last year wasn't either, So
Speaker 1: there are gonna be some teams out there that are
Speaker 1: gonna be hungry to try finding them. I think Colton
Speaker 1: Miller falls into that category too. From U c l A.
Speaker 1: He won't go that high. I think he does go
Speaker 1: in the first round six ft nine six fights from
Speaker 1: U c l A. I think the real I think
Speaker 1: the lynch pin for those first ten picks is what
Speaker 1: the Giants do. Do they go with Barclay or do
Speaker 1: they go with a quarterback. If they take a quarterback,
Speaker 1: that might tempt one of those teams, whether that that
Speaker 1: has a quarterback in place, like like the Chicago Bears,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that they
Speaker 1: were looking at maybe a defensive his Asian to get
Speaker 1: them to bite on Barkley if he happens to fall
Speaker 1: that far. Because I have to think that Denver Broncos,
Speaker 1: even though they let C. J. Anderson go, they still
Speaker 1: got to be thinking about quarterback to they're trying to
Speaker 1: find their next guy. So the Giants are the interesting one.
Speaker 1: And Okay, so if the Giants do take the quarterback,
Speaker 1: then Barkley is probably not making it past number four
Speaker 1: with the Browns. But if they take Barkley, well, your
Speaker 1: hair is on the line with this one in terms
Speaker 1: of I doubt that the Browns are going to take
Speaker 1: another quarterbacks. So then what position does John Dorsey take?
Speaker 1: This is the big question. And then if you want
Speaker 1: to make it just a little bit more confusing, Mike,
Speaker 1: those phones are constantly. There's teams looking to move up.
Speaker 1: There's teams that are, you know, kind of mortgaging their
Speaker 1: future to get the guy that they feel is going
Speaker 1: to help them right starting this day one. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: for those wondering about the hair comment, to clarify for people,
Speaker 1: you mentioned in our Insider Inbox column that if John Dorsey,
Speaker 1: as GM of the Browns takes quarterbacks with both the
Speaker 1: first and the fourth pick, that you would shave my head.
Speaker 1: I was not involved in this decision whatsoever, but you
Speaker 1: threw it out there. So now I think the Insider
Speaker 1: Inbox community is going to hold you to it. Oh. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't put my own hair on this, Mike.
Speaker 1: Look at that some luscious locks that you have going
Speaker 1: on there. If I shape my head it might not
Speaker 1: grow bad. I'm just holding onto whatever I have left
Speaker 1: I would be foolish to put my own hair on
Speaker 1: the line, but I did want to understate the fact
Speaker 1: that it would be tempting, especially in this environment, to
Speaker 1: take two quarterbacks. But you got to remember the position
Speaker 1: you'd be putting those young men in. They want to
Speaker 1: say that they're the franchise you want to rally around
Speaker 1: your guy. How do you rally around a guy when
Speaker 1: you have two of them standing around and they both well,
Speaker 1: and how do and how do you develop two at
Speaker 1: once when you're trying to figure out who the franchise
Speaker 1: guy is. I I you gotta pick one and go
Speaker 1: for it. But Dorsey holding that first and fourth pick,
Speaker 1: he's he's also the turnkey guy in this draft. In
Speaker 1: some respect, it's very important because he could trade it.
Speaker 1: He could take a really good football player at that spot. Um,
Speaker 1: if you look at it too, they have a lot
Speaker 1: of good guards. They're already they have that side of
Speaker 1: the line kind of fortified, so you wonder if they
Speaker 1: would sap up one of those defensive players. So it's
Speaker 1: just it's a lot of question marks, and it's all
Speaker 1: based on what really, to me, the Giants end up
Speaker 1: doing at number two. Yeah, and you mentioned some trade scenarios,
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about those after the Breakback
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Speaker 1: Packers unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, West hodku WIT's
Speaker 1: in that one, okay, West. So if the Packers decide
Speaker 1: to trade out of the fourteen spot, do you see them?
Speaker 1: Do you see Brian goudacunt is going up or back?
Speaker 1: I want to go up. They find the Packers. And
Speaker 1: the reason I've said this so long, Mike, it's it's
Speaker 1: probably going to be a broken record at this point,
Speaker 1: but this is an opportunity. I've said it since the
Speaker 1: very end of the season when we knew the Grim
Speaker 1: Bay Packers were going to be picking. This is your
Speaker 1: chance to go and find a guy that on every
Speaker 1: single board, unequivocally, the guy has a first round grade
Speaker 1: for the most part. I want to get one of
Speaker 1: those players. And if you feel if and you don't
Speaker 1: want to get married to guys, obviously Brian Goodquin's talk
Speaker 1: this week, you have to be able to to find
Speaker 1: the right balance that that you're not just going out
Speaker 1: of your mind to get a guy that you think
Speaker 1: is just the greatest thing since sliced bread, there has
Speaker 1: to be value taken into account. But I just feel,
Speaker 1: especially with those twelve picks, you have that third rounder
Speaker 1: that could be used to move up three or four
Speaker 1: spots if you need to. I, if it's me personally,
Speaker 1: I would trade up. And that's when you when you
Speaker 1: talk about the value being there, that's all part of
Speaker 1: the equation. When we're talking about these quarterbacks, that these four,
Speaker 1: possibly five quarterbacks that could go in the top ten
Speaker 1: or twelve picks, that's pushing down you know, best player
Speaker 1: available types areos guys that you know, if you take
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks out of the mix, our top five, top six,
Speaker 1: top seven picks in this draft, but they're gonna drop
Speaker 1: down into that ten, eleven, twelve range. And when you
Speaker 1: say opportunity, the packers normally have been picking at you know,
Speaker 1: thirty some years. The cost of moving from thirty up
Speaker 1: to ten, for example, is way bigger than moving from
Speaker 1: fourteen up to ten if you've got that guy in
Speaker 1: your sites that you want to get. So when I
Speaker 1: hear you say opportunity, that's what I'm understanding. You're saying, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and and hey, I'm not going to discount anything we
Speaker 1: don't know what it's like in that draft room. If
Speaker 1: there's one of these teams with two first round picks,
Speaker 1: or somebody overwhelms you, and then the draft value chart
Speaker 1: just tells you you're getting a bargain. Okay, you play
Speaker 1: that game. But my thought is is that it's just
Speaker 1: you have whether it's somebody's gonna fall like somebody will unequivocally.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna get one of the top defensive backs,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get one of the top pass structures, You're
Speaker 1: gonna get one of the top prospects in this draft
Speaker 1: with over a thousand players will be entering the league here,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get one one of the top one percent
Speaker 1: of that. And I just I really think and when
Speaker 1: you you you want to have swings at the plate.
Speaker 1: You want to be able to get as much value
Speaker 1: as you can. But to me, I just look at
Speaker 1: that number fourteen spot is a huge asset and that
Speaker 1: it gives you the power to potentially move up and
Speaker 1: not have to you know, trade future picks, but it
Speaker 1: also gives you the option that depending on what happens
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position, if quarterbacks don't end up going
Speaker 1: in the first ten, and maybe there isn't a guy
Speaker 1: there that you like, and somebody wants to come up
Speaker 1: and get one of those quarterbacks that fell another option
Speaker 1: on the table as well. Yeah, okay, so let me
Speaker 1: throw this out at you. Go back to two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine. We've said it many times. The last time
Speaker 1: the Packers had a pick in the upper half of
Speaker 1: the first round was two thousand nine when they were
Speaker 1: sitting at number nine and selected b J. Rogie. And
Speaker 1: that was also the year then that Ted Thompson used
Speaker 1: second and third round picks to move back into the
Speaker 1: tail end of the first round to select Clay Matthews
Speaker 1: and have two first round picks in one year. Do
Speaker 1: you see that as a possible scenario this year or
Speaker 1: do the Packers maybe not quite have the draft capital
Speaker 1: to do it. I really appreciate that you brought this
Speaker 1: question up, because it's a great point you make, because
Speaker 1: the same thing we talked about with moving up from
Speaker 1: thirty to ten, the same holds true in the second round.
Speaker 1: The Packers had those extra picks and had the value
Speaker 1: there to move back into the first round to take
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews, because they just ended up taking b J.
Speaker 1: Raji at number nine. They didn't trade anything to move
Speaker 1: up from that spot, So the same principles are in
Speaker 1: line there. For that reason, if the Packers do sit
Speaker 1: at fourteen, I think that's entirely in play that if
Speaker 1: there's a guy that they feel is there at the
Speaker 1: end of the first round that can be a difference
Speaker 1: maker that they can potentially move up and get that player.
Speaker 1: It all depends on what the prices to play that
Speaker 1: hand though. But you look at two thousand nine, Mic,
Speaker 1: and you can't always replicate history, but you and I
Speaker 1: both know that without b J. Raji and with play Matthews,
Speaker 1: that defense doesn't become what it was in two thousand
Speaker 1: nine and two thousand ten. They don't get to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. They don't have that instant renovation underneath Dom
Speaker 1: Capers if those two players aren't there. Caper said, right
Speaker 1: from the beginning, you needed the defensive tackle, especially in
Speaker 1: that day and age when they're playing that much space,
Speaker 1: and you needed the pass rusher, and it ended up
Speaker 1: coming up spades for them. Yeah. Well, all the way
Speaker 1: all of these different things could play out. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about this more later, but very quickly, your gut feeling
Speaker 1: as of right now, do the Packers sit at fourteen?
Speaker 1: Do they trade up or do they trade down? To me,
Speaker 1: I still have this hunch that they're going to trade
Speaker 1: up and then no, no, basis all speculation, And when
Speaker 1: you look at my draft board, it's just all Caddy
Speaker 1: wombus at this point. I mean, I got I got
Speaker 1: nothing in terms of where all these guys are gonna
Speaker 1: turn out. But I just I think this is a
Speaker 1: chance to make a statement. And I just feel, depending
Speaker 1: on how that board is moving at number seven or eight,
Speaker 1: that if you think the value is there to go
Speaker 1: get a playmaker, I think you take your shot. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that they probably just stay at fourteen,
Speaker 1: But we're going to talk about that more on our
Speaker 1: next show. The next thing I want to get to though, is, uh,
Speaker 1: there's more to this draft than just the first round.
Speaker 1: So let's get to that after the breakback with more
Speaker 1: on Packers Unscripted. Right after this, Welcome back to Packers Unscripted,
Speaker 1: Mike Spofford alongside West Hodko. It's okay, West, let's step
Speaker 1: out of the first round for a minute here and
Speaker 1: take a look at, you know, kind of these middle
Speaker 1: rounds which is where you know the real drafters, the
Speaker 1: top gm s make hey and make their reputation. Is
Speaker 1: is with these middle round picks. Are there some guys
Speaker 1: and I don't care what position you want to address,
Speaker 1: but are there some guys in the middle rounds that
Speaker 1: that you kind of had your eye on that maybe
Speaker 1: you think could be a good fit for the Packers
Speaker 1: that we might see the Packers take on Day two
Speaker 1: or even early on Day three of this draft as
Speaker 1: far as fit, and I don't know how high offensive
Speaker 1: line is going to be on their list of needs,
Speaker 1: but Austin Corbett from Nevada is just the guy I've
Speaker 1: really had my eye on because he fits that prototype
Speaker 1: that they've looked for on the offensive line for the
Speaker 1: last decade and that he was a really successful college
Speaker 1: tackle at a mid you know, a mid level tier.
Speaker 1: I mean, Nevada is not considered like a big FBS power,
Speaker 1: but he's going to transition to being an interior linement
Speaker 1: in the NFL six four, three oh five. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, they've had a lot of success with
Speaker 1: that body type in the interior of the offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think that that's a guy that gives you some
Speaker 1: flexibility depending on where you have to use him. I
Speaker 1: think he's probably gonna end up being a day to pick,
Speaker 1: and he might be a little too high for forty five,
Speaker 1: So I don't really know if it's gonna equate. But
Speaker 1: in terms of just looking at a guy that screams
Speaker 1: a packer person to meet, Corbett's one of the going
Speaker 1: through this whole process is but one of the guys
Speaker 1: I've ever been following. All Right, well, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: you to the state of Oklahoma first, let's do it
Speaker 1: to keep your on and and I'll bring up these
Speaker 1: guys partly because I did prospect primers on them for
Speaker 1: our website. So then you do a little research on
Speaker 1: these guys and you start to think, uh, yeah, I
Speaker 1: could see these guys, you know, fitting maybe maybe the
Speaker 1: packers are gonna like this guy. And they're both past catchers.
Speaker 1: University of Oklahoma tight end Mark Andrews strikes me as
Speaker 1: kind of like another Jimmy Graham. Not as fast, not
Speaker 1: quite as fast anyway, but kind of like another Jimmy Graham,
Speaker 1: just in terms of tall guy, tough matchup, big catching radius,
Speaker 1: you can throw the ball all sorts of places, um
Speaker 1: and uh. Um, a guy who's gonna need some time
Speaker 1: to develop, which is why I don't think he's necessarily
Speaker 1: going to be a first or a second round pick.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be he's gonna be taken later in the draft.
Speaker 1: And the other guy that strikes me also from the
Speaker 1: state of Oklahoma. This is Oklahoma State, and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about wide receiver James Washington. I think this guy is
Speaker 1: a mid round type of pick, and he strikes me
Speaker 1: as another James Jones, but with a little more speed,
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a deep threat than perhaps
Speaker 1: James Jones was in his very productive career here for
Speaker 1: the Packers. So those are two guys if you want
Speaker 1: to check out the prospect primers on the website. Um,
Speaker 1: I did a little research on those guys. Just guys
Speaker 1: that intrigued me because I think the Packers are going
Speaker 1: to restock the past catchers at both wide receiver and
Speaker 1: tight end in this draft. I'm keeping my eye on
Speaker 1: those two. Yeah. And then one of the guy to
Speaker 1: throw up, although now he's he's kind of like been um,
Speaker 1: like Vander Esh one of these outside backers that's sort
Speaker 1: of been climbing up boards with Sam Hubbard from Ohio
Speaker 1: State outside linebacker, defensive end, edge rusher. I was originally
Speaker 1: thinking he would end up being a mid round guy,
Speaker 1: but then I saw I think it was ESPN did
Speaker 1: their mock draft with their beat writers, and Hubbard ended
Speaker 1: up going in the first round. I think there's some
Speaker 1: questions about his upside and just how far his ceiling goes.
Speaker 1: But he he looks the part of a really successful
Speaker 1: outside backer six three over six three, um and you
Speaker 1: know about that two sixty pound range, very successful at
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I was another guy kept an eye on
Speaker 1: and then just I mean for my own purposes, just
Speaker 1: trying to keep an eye on it. I mean, Shack
Speaker 1: Griffin is going to be a guy. I think everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna be watching great story. I don't know where he
Speaker 1: goes from what I understood. I think he's going to Dallas, right,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be He's gonna be at the draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he might end up first being a Day three pick,
Speaker 1: But I mean, you talk about a guy that has
Speaker 1: obviously maximized everything in his life to get to this point.
Speaker 1: It's just it's gonna be a great moment for him
Speaker 1: whenever his name does get called. Because I think if
Speaker 1: nothing else through this combine process, he assured himself that
Speaker 1: he will get drafted. And when you talk about Hubbard,
Speaker 1: to step back to him for a second, I think
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's going to go sooner rather than
Speaker 1: later because edge rushers are are at a premium. Not
Speaker 1: only at a premium, but it's not a very deep
Speaker 1: group of edge rushers in this draft. So that's a
Speaker 1: guy who, you know, maybe from a pure talent standpoint,
Speaker 1: is going to be rated here, but he's going to
Speaker 1: be drafted up here because of the position he plays,
Speaker 1: and there just aren't a lot of those in this
Speaker 1: draft defying there really aren't. And then one last name
Speaker 1: for you, Darius Leonard from South Carolina State kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of a Joe Thomas a little bit but
Speaker 1: a little bit more athletic, and he will get draft
Speaker 1: in those middle rounds as well. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the need is going to be there for the Packers
Speaker 1: and an inside linebacker with Blake Martinez coming back in
Speaker 1: Jake Ryan, but I think he's another guy that could
Speaker 1: be interesting. All right. With that, we will toss to
Speaker 1: another break back with Moron Packers unscripted right after this
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Packers unscripted. Mike Spofford here West, Hodkuh,
Speaker 1: It's over there, So okay, West Packers are at the
Speaker 1: overall pick if they decide to stay there and select
Speaker 1: at fourteen. You wrote a story about this on our website,
Speaker 1: packers dot com. There's a little bit of history on
Speaker 1: their side, not only Green Bay Packers history, but NFL
Speaker 1: history in general. With the success of that four pick.
Speaker 1: In Packers history three times they've drafted at number fourteen.
Speaker 1: Two times. It's turned out to be an awfully good player.
Speaker 1: One of those guys is in Canton. Yeah, Dave Robinson,
Speaker 1: who I think. You know, they built the crux of
Speaker 1: that team in the late fifties, you know Jack NISI
Speaker 1: and in the scouting department and the job that Vince
Speaker 1: Lombardi did developing him. But Dave Robinson was a fun
Speaker 1: player because he came in sixty I believe it was
Speaker 1: sixty two, um, so that they kind of already turned
Speaker 1: things around, but that's when they started to kind of
Speaker 1: fortify things. End up having an incredibly productive career, such
Speaker 1: a big playmaker, twenty seven career interceptions. I think every
Speaker 1: year he was in the league, he had at least
Speaker 1: one at the linebacker position working with Ray nich Key. Um,
Speaker 1: just a phenomenal football player. Uh. And then yeah, Bubba Franks.
Speaker 1: I mean, Franks isn't the type of guy that I
Speaker 1: you know, he's not going into Canton, but I think
Speaker 1: for that time and place, he fit what they were
Speaker 1: doing so well. And and and to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: it was kind of really truly like the last Ron
Speaker 1: Wolf type pick. Uh. You know, there's so many questions
Speaker 1: about that two thousand one draft, and you know, he's
Speaker 1: three time Pro Bowl are incredibly productive in the red zone.
Speaker 1: But even more than that, Mike I went back and
Speaker 1: looked at it the last fourteen drafts because it's the
Speaker 1: number fourteen pick. Yeah, I went back and looked twenty
Speaker 1: three Pro Bowlers, thirteen All Pro teams in five Super
Speaker 1: Bowl victories among them. Uh. That group includes you know,
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, who has been considered one of the not
Speaker 1: the best safety in the NFL. Uh. And then you
Speaker 1: look no further than Durell Rivas. Rivas now on the
Speaker 1: downside of his career, how pactful he was for so
Speaker 1: many years and in Mike Petton scheme as well, those
Speaker 1: were the names I was going to mention because you
Speaker 1: go back to where we started the show talking about
Speaker 1: is one of these, you know, top defensive backs Denzel Ward,
Speaker 1: Minka Fitzpatrick or Derwin James is one of those guys
Speaker 1: going to be available potentially at fourteen for the Packers.
Speaker 1: Then you think, you think about guys like Durell Rivas
Speaker 1: and Earl Thomas being selected with the fourteenth pick. I
Speaker 1: remember back to that two thousand seven draft. The Packers
Speaker 1: were sitting at number sixteen. They wanted Darrell Reevs. You know,
Speaker 1: they liked him. You know, I don't remember the scenario
Speaker 1: in terms of the picks they had, if they would
Speaker 1: have had any opportunity to move up or not, but um,
Speaker 1: the Jets took him two spots before Green Bay, and
Speaker 1: obviously the rest is history. But then again, that goes
Speaker 1: back to our question of if one of those dbs
Speaker 1: is there and the Packers really really like that guy,
Speaker 1: you know, is Brian Goodin is gonna pull the trigger
Speaker 1: and make a trade and make sure he doesn't miss out?
Speaker 1: And I touched on this an Insider in boxes past week. Mike,
Speaker 1: to me, that's why I've been saying best available playmakers
Speaker 1: the need for the Packers, and more specifically, that's the
Speaker 1: slot cornerback position. You can manufacture things sometimes on the boundary,
Speaker 1: but you need that Charles Woodson type player. It looks
Speaker 1: like either Fitzpatrick or James could be that guy. I
Speaker 1: think Ward gives you a little bit more flexibility in
Speaker 1: terms of being able to be used outside. That's the
Speaker 1: quandary right now for all these gms and for Brian
Speaker 1: Goodkins trying figure out who's gonna be the next big fit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and with that, we are a little closer to the
Speaker 1: first round of the NFL Draft, and we will sign
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