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Speaker 1: The guy that's stopping by for conversation on the drink

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Speaker 1: today is a Super Bowl champ. He's a five time

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowler. He's a two time NFL rushing touchdown leader,

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Speaker 1: a two time All A two time Pro Bowl player.

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Speaker 1: He's a member of the twenty ten All Decade ten team.

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Speaker 1: He's an entrepreneur, entertainment superstar, TV personality, actor, national treasure.

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Speaker 1: He's here just so he doesn't get fined. Beastmoe Marsha

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Speaker 1: Lynn Marshall, we got to talk about him. Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: forty nine.

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Speaker 2: Oh shit, Oh you're getting right.

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Speaker 1: Russ coming there and one knee, caud Russell get down

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Speaker 1: on one knee with it in the huddle and you

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Speaker 1: hear the play be cause you're the one you on

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Speaker 1: the one y'all live, Marshall, you're on the one yard

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Speaker 1: live Russ in the huddle and he's calling out to play.

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Speaker 1: What's going through your mind?

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Speaker 2: Shit?

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Speaker 3: I beyond I look at I look at all uh

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Speaker 3: nine O the other guys, and they look at me like,

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Speaker 3: what the fuck just happened?

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Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, even as he's calling the

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Speaker 1: play in the hold of because they look, you got

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Speaker 1: one yard, we got the man, that we got We

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Speaker 1: got Bee's more. We got two hundred and twenty five

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Speaker 1: thirty five pounds on sledge halber.

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Speaker 2: What's handed?

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Speaker 1: And we got a time out. So if we don't

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Speaker 1: get it what was handed. If we don't get it

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Speaker 1: on this first second down, we're gonna get it on third.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get it on four. We're gonna get this

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Speaker 1: ball in there. But Bee's got to touch it. Bee's

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Speaker 1: got a Habit was handed.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: The look on the look on all my teammates facing

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Speaker 3: the huddle, you know it spoke values and I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, processing the ship. If you go back and

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Speaker 3: you look at the play, I actually lined it because

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Speaker 3: I'm shit, I'm processing.

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Speaker 2: I line up on the wrong side.

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Speaker 3: I line up on the wrong side, man, Russell gotta

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Speaker 3: tell you, I'm bouncing from back and forth behind like

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Speaker 3: oh shit. And by the time it sat in, like, motherfucker,

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Speaker 3: what what did? It was just cold.

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Speaker 2: You just hear all the cheering from the other sideline

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Speaker 2: like what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: So you didn't know what you didn't know. You didn't

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Speaker 1: know Malcolm Butler had picked the.

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Speaker 3: Ball up, man, because they seeing me on the flat

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Speaker 3: yeah way, yeah, you feel me?

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Speaker 2: I'm running out.

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Speaker 3: There like ship, Well, at least you gonna hit me

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Speaker 3: in the flat yeah yeah, And I get my head around.

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Speaker 1: He ain't tackling you one on?

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Speaker 2: What what the fuck doing? Like what happened to see

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Speaker 2: no ball coming on? All right?

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Speaker 3: And see them upfuckers jumping up and down and cheering like,

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Speaker 3: oh shit, he just threw a pick. And at that time,

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Speaker 3: you know, there was a lot of ship going on,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So as you walking off the field, the defense is

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Speaker 1: coming on the field. God, so was it entery interaction?

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Speaker 1: Did anybody say anything to the defense, say, man, what

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Speaker 1: the hemp was that? Who called that bull? Jy that?

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Speaker 4: We look back at it.

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Speaker 3: You see everybody, you know, they show the reaction. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean you see the reaction Sharon, Earl Bruce, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean, d line or the You see

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Speaker 3: the reaction from everybody. And then as I'm going back

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Speaker 3: to the sideline, uh, you know, go by Russ and

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Speaker 3: I just hear him like, oh man, like I'll get

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Speaker 3: him next time.

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Speaker 1: Wha ho whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

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Speaker 3: And as I'm as I hear the ship, I don't

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Speaker 3: really I usually don't take my helmet off, but you know,

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Speaker 3: I take my helmet off, and I go right to

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Speaker 3: Pete Carroll face and I'm talking about I hit his

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Speaker 3: ass with the biggest.

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Speaker 2: What the And at that point, ship ship, I go

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Speaker 2: to the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold u tip, hold on.

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Speaker 3: Be see all the ship going on. I don't see

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Speaker 3: none of this ship. I don't see the I don't

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Speaker 1: Where they're getting the scuffling and they're pushing the shoven.

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Speaker 1: You was already gone.

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Speaker 2: I'm in another sucking uh you in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: I'm in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: So by the time they come to the locker room,

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Speaker 3: It was Arizona. I think I ran in the uh

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Speaker 3: in the uh many kravics. Hey, what's up man looking like?

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Speaker 3: Don't you got a game? Oh yeah, that ship over.

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Speaker 3: He called my mama and uh called the family. Hey,

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Speaker 3: come on, we're back to the spot. All right, Go

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Speaker 3: in there, get dressed, go shower, get dressed. And as

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Speaker 3: I'm coming out, now you see everybody else coming in.

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Speaker 2: I mean I let you. I'll let y'all when you

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Speaker 2: get back to the.

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Speaker 1: What Why why didn't they give you that ball? Why

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Speaker 1: did Darryl Beble call a pass play? Why did Peet

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Speaker 1: Caroll not over what happened? Did they not want you

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Speaker 1: to get that MVP?

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Speaker 3: Man? I have no idea, And from the understanding that

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Speaker 3: I got is nobody taken accountability for it, neither one

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Speaker 3: of them. They put it off on each other.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, Okay, I don't know what the

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Speaker 1: fuck hold Russ put it off on Pete. Pete put

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Speaker 1: it off on Russ, or whether it coordinated the head coach, nah.

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Speaker 3: Coordinator and head coach. They passed it back to each

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Speaker 3: other from from that's when they talking to me. So

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Speaker 3: I don't know how I played. But at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, yeah, that shit was you know, that

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Speaker 3: shit were painful because you gotta think, like, no matter

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Speaker 3: what in any sport, you play what you do, especially

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Speaker 3: now running back saying okay, you when you a little jit,

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Speaker 3: you set up you know, pillow here, pillow here, chair here,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, maybe a lamp post here,

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Speaker 3: like okay, and then you start going it's that.

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Speaker 2: The end of the game.

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Speaker 3: One more play, uh, the quarterback handing the ball off

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Speaker 3: the marshan he jumping their zone today, you all the

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Speaker 3: oaking ready to win the Super Bowl. I'm a ready

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Speaker 3: fan from Oakland, California. So you know, you put it together,

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Speaker 3: You put that play together so many times. You play that,

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Speaker 3: you play that so many times. So not only did

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Speaker 3: they take a you know, the moment away from the moment,

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Speaker 3: they took a dream. What I mean, that's a I

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Speaker 3: guess say that's one in a lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Situation.

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Speaker 1: Have you gotten over it?

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Speaker 3: Uh To be honest with you now, now that you

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Speaker 3: know we at ten years, we had a ten year

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Speaker 3: reunion for the Super Bowl and just thinking like damn,

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Speaker 3: we could have been doing this again next year, next year,

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Speaker 3: and there's no telling like you know, you took a

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Speaker 3: you take a dynasty away, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Because then you you know, you in position to a

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Speaker 3: we win two super Bowls, maybe y'all don't want to

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Speaker 3: be the highest paid corner or the highest paid safety

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Speaker 3: or the highest paid receiver. No spread that cheese through

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Speaker 3: the whole team. So we could bring everybody back and

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Speaker 3: we could go try to do three and be maybe foul.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what we could get out of it. So

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, not only do you you know

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Speaker 3: you you take away all that shit, but you know

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Speaker 3: you put us in the in the history books as

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Speaker 3: the dumbest call in football history. And then I mean,

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Speaker 3: an everlasting question that I'm gonna get why they anny

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Speaker 3: the ball?

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Speaker 1: That is that the question that you get asked the most.

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Speaker 1: If when people meet Marshall, letting everybody knows who you are,

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Speaker 1: is that the first question out of there? Like, hey,

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Speaker 1: how you doing Marshan Man? Why they give you that ball?

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Speaker 2: No, I ain't know, Hey, Marchean, how you doing this? Hey? Why?

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Speaker 2: Then you couldn't just like Marshaan Lyns like, no, I

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Speaker 2: ain't want Sean Lynch. Oh my bad. I didn't mean

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Speaker 3: I thought you was more Shaane Lynch, because I was

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Speaker 3: gonna say, man, if you was Marcha Line, why the

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Speaker 3: fuck they didn't need Probably I'm more shank Man.

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Speaker 1: Why the fuck they didn't ship?

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Speaker 2: Fuck?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, shit, I wish I did know.

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Speaker 3: I wish like I wish I could get, you know,

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Speaker 3: the truthful answer behind that.

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Speaker 1: But if there any answer he could give you now

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Speaker 3: You, I mean, at this point, I wouldn't know. Now

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Speaker 3: that's been so much time in between. It probably wouldn't even.

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Speaker 1: Matter because you know everything I've heard all the everybody says, well,

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Speaker 1: they didn't want beast Moll to be the m v P.

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Speaker 1: Pete wanted it to be Russ, or the NFL wanted

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Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense, I mean to the I played

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just don't make sense.

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Speaker 1: You almost scored on the playing board. You read it

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Speaker 2: You're damn right, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So I realistically, like man, when I think about it,

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Speaker 3: I'm in a position to where you feel me. I

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Speaker 3: you got all the possibility. Did they not want you

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Speaker 3: to be the the Super Bowl MVP, because if you

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl MVP, then you the face of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: They don't want, you know, want that to be the

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Speaker 1: But at that and then they have special case and

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Speaker 1: they bring all Super Bowl winners back and they out there.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, how long.

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Speaker 1: Did it take you to get over not getting the ball?

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Speaker 2: You know what? Realistically it was immediately.

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Speaker 3: Because the thing is, if you go and ask anybody

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Speaker 3: to ever play with me, they'll tell you like, he

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Speaker 3: really like played for the team type shit. Right, So

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Speaker 3: it was a part of me who wanted to be selfish,

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Speaker 3: like give me the ball type shit. But at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, knowing the work that all these

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Speaker 3: happy for him. But in the grand scheme of just football,

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Speaker 3: that shit don't make no sense. But as far as

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because I'll never come and

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Speaker 3: potentially be no hater towards nobody, but just certain shit

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Speaker 3: makes sense and certain shit don't.

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Speaker 2: That just don't make no sense. It's not it's not

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Speaker 2: a good football it's not it's not a football decision.

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Speaker 2: It's not good football IQ on now that I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: about it, it's not was.

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Speaker 1: That the play that ended the Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: Most definitely, and they stuff for in it from still

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Speaker 3: So you know what I mean, if you gonna be

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Speaker 3: All the funny shit. And yeah, I mean, I'm ready

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Speaker 1: today is Emmy Award winner comedian actor, voice, actor, writer, producer, musician, director, author,

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Speaker 1: been in the industry almost forty years. A friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: Tommy Davidson.

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Speaker 6: Me and Will had a run in.

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Speaker 6: I didn't find out that for fifteen years because he

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Speaker 6: Tell me what's happening?

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Speaker 6: And since he was standing yeah, and I was sitting

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Speaker 6: Now? You tell me what's happening.

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Speaker 6: So finally I just said, this is a small place

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Speaker 6: This is how I found out. I put it in

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Speaker 1: I remember the soul Charlie Matt. Everywhere we go downtown

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Speaker 6: all the glory all is blocking, you know what I mean?

441
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,200
Speaker 6: So you got to do it right, right? So I

442
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 6: got it in there, and so they called me and said, hey.

443
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 5: That is what happened.

444
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: Wow.

445
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I didn't find out for that long. It

446
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 6: was more than fifteen years. I was about back in

447
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 6: two thousand, right, so it's more than that long.

448
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: Right.

449
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 6: So I saw that side, you know, and there's nothing

450
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 6: you can do in certain circumstances as far as I'm concerned,

451
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 6: the way that I grew up and saw things, you know,

452
00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 6: I made a good observation after trial by ass whipping right, right, okay, right,

453
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 6: when emotions is high, common senses at all time?

454
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 5: Low?

455
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, common sense is at all time, and how low

456
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 6: can you go?

457
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 2: You see what I mean?

458
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 6: So knowing that fact and just sticking on to what

459
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 6: I learned when I was a little kid, you know,

460
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 6: my brother and sister being white and me being black

461
00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 6: wasn't a big deal to me until I found out

462
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 6: I was black. I grew up in Fort Collins, Colorado,

463
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 6: and Wyoming, Okay. Found in the trash taking straight out there,

464
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 6: and I thought I was a brown one of whatever

465
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 6: we were, because I saw litters. So a black cat

466
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 6: can have a white one, a brown one, a stacker one.

467
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 6: I thought we were born like that, and I'm a

468
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 6: brown one or whatever we are.

469
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 2: Right.

470
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 6: Well, we got to DC King had just got shot.

471
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 6: There were riots, and the black kids the next day

472
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 6: were whipping our ass all day and they were saying,

473
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 6: get the white cracker, and get the white cracker, lover.

474
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 6: This is the things I learned, right, you know. And

475
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 6: I was, I was going, this is stupid. So I

476
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 6: went to my mother, I said, why are they attacking me?

477
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 6: Seeing I like white crackers. I like gram crackers, Ram crackers.

478
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 6: You don't gotta have water with them or nothing.

479
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: You just chewing.

480
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 6: Get you to the apple juice, and you're good, white cracker.

481
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 6: You be like schwartz niggas in total recall, you know.

482
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 6: So so I found that out and then that's where

483
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 6: the first time I heard the word nigger, you know, okay,

484
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 6: because we moved to the suburbs. Then it was like

485
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 6: kill the nigga. And I'm five, I'm riding my bike

486
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 6: a whole truck of white boys barely getting in the door,

487
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 6: people throwing stuff through the window. Nigga is nigga that?

488
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 6: So I went to my mom and I said, who

489
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 6: are these niggas we got to stay away from, you know, yeah, yeah,

490
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 6: And she told me, she said, it's one of her speeches.

491
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 6: She told me, hey, that's what people are color called

492
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 6: people your color when they don't like them. I said,

493
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 6: what color are you? She said, we're white. I said, no,

494
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 6: you're beige because I learned my colors from the Crowns.

495
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 6: She said no, but that's what we call ourselves. And

496
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 6: so I said, well, what does nigga means? She said, well,

497
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 6: that's what That's what I mean. What is what is

498
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,200
Speaker 6: white crack?

499
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:36,479
Speaker 2: I mean?

500
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 6: She said, that's what your your people call our people

501
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 6: when they don't like them. I said, well, what color

502
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 6: are they? She said they're black. I said they're not.

503
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 6: They're brown. I'm a brown one, and like, hmm, that's

504
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 6: that's that's where my my my whole as a child,

505
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 6: that messed me up for a long time because I

506
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 6: couldn't believe that it. I was divided by my loved

507
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 6: ones by the color right, and I always thought that

508
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 6: that was stupid. But it's real, right, you know, it's real.

509
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 6: It's not really real because I am right about the

510
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 6: litters and I am right about us. Because when we

511
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 6: were in different civilizations and different colors. Anytime we would

512
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 6: come up on another civilization that was a different color,

513
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 6: the girls would go those guys look pretty hot, and

514
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 6: the guys would go to them, girls look pretty hot,

515
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 6: and dustly we started mixing. It is the same thing.

516
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 6: You see what I'm saying, right, Take a DNA strand

517
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 6: you know that wasn't because we exchanged DNA's, all right,

518
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 6: you know, that's more like d and p's.

519
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: You just skip.

520
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 6: I know, but I'm just I'm talking to him. No,

521
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 6: I better stopped.

522
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm good.

523
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 6: So but that but that was was the catalyst, and

524
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 6: I think I found my purpose in all that.

525
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 2: Right.

526
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 6: You know, That's why I feel comfortable saying I'm her

527
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 6: greatest accomplishment, because I believe I was. I think she

528
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 6: did that on purpose.

529
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: You see j Lo, she starts as a fly girl

530
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: and now she's one of the biggest stars.

531
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 6: Did you did you?

532
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: Did you?

533
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: Could you project? Could you see that Jim and Jamie

534
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: and j Lo and John lebel Zambo? Could you could

535
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: you foretell that they were going to be that?

536
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, I could, because because I know that anything

537
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 6: is possible in that business if you're talented, you know.

538
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 6: But it's the it's the other stuff that has to

539
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 6: line up. It has to line up, right, you know

540
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 6: what I mean. You know, there's there's all these industries.

541
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 6: There's publicity, there's the agent industry, right, there's a management industry, right,

542
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 6: there's the studios, there's the networks. There's all this stuff

543
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 6: that you know, you got to do right. You got

544
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 6: to do right and the next step and the next

545
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 6: step and the next step to get to that point.

546
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 6: So it's possible to do you know, it's possibly because

547
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 6: you can navigate it. It's persistence and all that good stuff, right.

548
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 6: But I never knew that some of them would stop

549
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 6: talking to me when they got to that point. So

550
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 6: I never knew that because I was always curious. You know,

551
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 6: how you did it? Man?

552
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: I study you know, like, so we had the number

553
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: when you was on working on Living Color, and then

554
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they becomes something else, and now,

555
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden is no longer.

556
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 6: All over her. I was like, you know, I remember

557
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 6: seeing her and this ain't no j Lo bashing because

558
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 6: she's crazy talented. Come on, can't put nothing on it.

559
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 6: And she's a great actress too, you know. But but

560
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 6: we used to hang out with me, her my axs.

561
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 6: We used to go to dinner together, you know. And

562
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 6: I met her with Keenan that strictly business because he

563
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 6: brought her in my trailer. I was doing a movie

564
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 6: and I was like, what is that right? And then

565
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 6: she showed up to be a girl and she worked

566
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 6: her ass off. She worked her ass so she was

567
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 6: every day and she was messing around with scripts. I

568
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 6: was like, this girl gonna be something.

569
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: She was.

570
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 6: So I saw her at the upfronts. It was me

571
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 6: and Danny DeVito and he's like, there's all there's there's

572
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 6: kind one place over there. You don't know, right. I'm like, yeah,

573
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 6: I know her. So I go over there and I'm like,

574
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 6: what's up? Girl? Shoot man, you blew up? What is

575
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 6: going on? She was like hey, I was like, so,

576
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 6: what's going on? What's going on? You know, just living

577
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 6: like you know, get some little carrot dip and I'm going,

578
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 6: you know what's in that carrot dip? You know, because

579
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 6: she showed dipping my ass, you know what I mean.

580
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 6: And so so that happened once and then I was

581
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 6: on a face break. I had to look around and

582
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 6: see if anybody saw that. Did anybody just see her

583
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 6: with a hatchet through my forehead?

584
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: Like hey, you know?

585
00:27:59,119 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 4: And so.

586
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 6: We had the same manager at the same time. So

587
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 6: I just avoided her because you never know what someone's

588
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 6: going through that day. I could be misreading, right, you know.

589
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 6: I always got to get the love that but that's

590
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 6: from my profile, from being the black and between the

591
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 6: white and all that. So I'm needy in that way,

592
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 6: I can admit that.

593
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: But I do love love right. Well, she might be Listen,

594
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 1: you can only judge a person by the experience that

595
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 1: you have half person. Right, she might be, she might

596
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: be a great person to CJ and Hollywood and all

597
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: my god, Jordan's right, but your experience in that moment

598
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: was my love was not great.

599
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 6: Right, And so I gave it some time and stuff

600
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 6: and I never blamed the person, you know. I just

601
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 6: try to try to work with myself and you know

602
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 6: how cause you hate you, you're right, you know.

603
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: I had to work on that.

604
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 6: And so we had the same manager at one time, right,

605
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 6: and she's doing a video up and up and in

606
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 6: the block Jenny Jenny from the block block block block

607
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 6: block block write that one.

608
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: And so.

609
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 6: He said, why don't you go and visit her on

610
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 6: the set, man, she would love to see you. And

611
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 6: I was like, Nah, that's all right, that's all right man.

612
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 6: He's like, nah, man, come on, man, this is you.

613
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: Come on.

614
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: Man.

615
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 6: I was like, nah, that's all right, man, that's all right,

616
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 6: because one time is enough for me. You know, I

617
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 6: don't got to steal another base. If it's wanting out, hey,

618
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 6: i'll get it. I'll wait till the next up. So

619
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 6: I go down on the platform and there she is,

620
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 6: you know, and I tell you the only thing that

621
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 6: saved me. I walked down the platform and she was

622
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 6: looking at the at the screens with all the rest

623
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 6: of the dancer, you know, and Benny's all proud that

624
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 6: he's standing with me, you know, yeah, yeh yeah, yeah, yeah.

625
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 6: He put the last name on that.

626
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 5: Okay, all right?

627
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 6: So him, man, you know what I'm saying. Uh So

628
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 6: I get down to the to the end of the

629
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 6: thing and I look at her and Benny's going, come on,

630
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 6: let man, I'm like a man, and Jennifer what's up?

631
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 6: And she goes.

632
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: Hey.

633
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 6: So that was like the last you know, I don't

634
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 6: know how she's going to be when I see her next.

635
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 6: But the next time I saw her, I avoided her

636
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 6: because I don't like feeling that way. I don't want

637
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 6: to be around anybody. It makes me feel like I'm

638
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 6: not You're gonna make me feel like I ain't important.

639
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: You know.

640
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 6: I worked at a hospital when I was fifteen, and

641
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 6: everybody that worked there was black and were in the

642
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 6: Korean War.

643
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 5: All of them were.

644
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 6: Veterans, you know, and they taught me everything. They taught

645
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 6: me everything about cooking, everything about life.

646
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: You know.

647
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 6: Just imagine if they were like that to me, you

648
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 6: know what I mean. I mean imagine that.

649
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: You know.

650
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 6: My math teacher, Ms. Coleman, Jewish woman, lived down the

651
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 6: street from the elementary school and I couldn't get my

652
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 6: math right. She was like a substitute teacher. She said,

653
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 6: why don't you come up to my house. So I

654
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 6: go over the house after school and she would work

655
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 6: with me on math and work with me on math

656
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 6: and work. I was never that great in math, but

657
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 6: I have more confidence about doing it. What happened if

658
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 6: she hey right?

659
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: You know?

660
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 6: So I just remember those things. And that's just me

661
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 6: as an individual, that's all. That's just what makes the

662
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 6: furnace in me run, you know. And I delighted that

663
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 6: people come to me and say, Man, you came to

664
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 6: you came to Afghanistan and you look at this. This

665
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 6: is the picture. You know what I mean? Yeah, we

666
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 6: were at your show in Kansas City, man, and my

667
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 6: grandmother came in. He took some pictures of her and everything.

668
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 5: She gone.

669
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 6: Now, Man, but let me tell you something that was

670
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 6: one of her greatest moments.

671
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: The guy that's stopping by today for conversation on the

672
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: drink is one of my favorites. He's a multi dimensional comedian, actor, author,

673
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: and his biolays says he's a Krispy Krean connoisseur. He's

674
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: the rock stuff double in the businesses for over thirty

675
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: five years. He's the Mayor of Comedy. The legend the

676
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: homie from Atlanta now. But if you really know, you

677
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: know you got Cascade Roll, you got College Point, you

678
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: got East Point, you got Doug and then you got

679
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: the Swaps. But this man is from none of those.

680
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: He's from the Look my homemade, the big homemie. What's up?

681
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 5: How you doing?

682
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: Man?

683
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: Bet?

684
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 6: I'm good?

685
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 2: How you being?

686
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be. I feel so sexy today?

687
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: You feel sexy?

688
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 5: Oh my god? This is so sexy to me?

689
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: Is it?

690
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: L A?

691
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: I mean leaving the A coming too la. That's what

692
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: makes it cause it feel sexy man. You know, like

693
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: like when I used to strip.

694
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 8: Let me tell you something. When I was stripped, the

695
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 8: reason I stopped. The church members came down so hard

696
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 8: they came on your home. But they was at the show.

697
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: Go whoa, whoa, whoa.

698
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 8: I was getting into him. You get get into him,

699
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 8: you get it too it. I had a g strang

700
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 8: and signs of a jump rope.

701
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 5: Let me tell.

702
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 8: It was actually breathtaking because when I put it on

703
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 8: and actually took my breath.

704
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 5: But look, I had fun doing it.

705
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 6: Man.

706
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Death comedy Jam, showtime at Apollo.

707
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: So what was the auditions like on that? Because you

708
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: know if you knock it out the park here.

709
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 8: Oh you know, Depth Jam, you was smooth sailing you

710
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 8: you you rip it on, Depth Jam. You're you in

711
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 8: the air man. And I was so scared. Oh my god,

712
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 8: I was scared. Why we so nervous because you had

713
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 8: already done you. Let me tell you why, Shannon. You know,

714
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 8: like we Southern boys. But when you get up north

715
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 8: to New York, first thing like this country, mother. But

716
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 8: they say that you know this country, and I like.

717
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: I say, look, wait, man, I ain't got I'm country.

718
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: But let me do my thing.

719
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 8: I know what I'll never forget When I did the

720
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 8: Apollo and Steve Harbor was hosting, and I walked out. Steve,

721
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 8: so I'm gonna let y'all know. Now y'all better put

722
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 8: your seatbelts over this guy right here, because I'm letting

723
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 8: you know, he gonna let you have it. I was

724
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 8: known for like messing with the crowd. And I came

725
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 8: out there and all this he said, now all this country, mother.

726
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 5: I walked that. I killed him.

727
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 8: I mean after I rubbed that log, when I rubbed

728
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 8: that log, when I came up, yeah yeah, Steve came

729
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 8: back out. He said, uh huh, Uh see, y'all wasn't

730
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 8: ready for him, right, but they gave me the respect.

731
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 8: I had to earn it, right, but it automatically gave

732
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 8: people from up north love right.

733
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 5: Well, if you say.

734
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 8: Birmingham, Atlanta, Florida, Tennesse Oh, this country money.

735
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 5: And they got to understand it's not like that in

736
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 5: the South. Were still living in.

737
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Red clay mud.

738
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't have.

739
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: Hi you coming down. We're not doing people living in

740
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: mansions in the South. But you know what, Bruce, you

741
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: wanted a few comedians. You chop it up with. You

742
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: chop it up with with the audience you get on them.

743
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: I have to man here with you.

744
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 8: Leave them expect because one lady got mad at me.

745
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 8: I was in Greenville, South Carolina, I know, forget this,

746
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 8: and she kept talking out loud. And the way this

747
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 8: stage was I was on the stage, stage was oval shape, right,

748
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 8: and it was seats all the way around the stage right,

749
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 8: and then it was the tables and stuffing.

750
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: But she kept talking out loud, so.

751
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: You can hear a why you're stay And so I ignored.

752
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: I'm doing my jokes and I said, can't you, I say,

753
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: can you hold it down? I said, I'm short. I said,

754
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: how did you learn how to whisper in a helicopter?

755
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: She like my husband talking to me like that, and

756
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: she said something.

757
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 8: She said I called her a bitch, and I didn't

758
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 8: because I don't do that to women, right, I never

759
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 8: and I never used the N word, you know what

760
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 8: I'm saying.

761
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: And I said, I call you bitch. I said, if

762
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: I did, I'm sorry. I said, but let me be

763
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: the first to shake your hand to call your bitch.

764
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 5: And I made it.

765
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 8: I flipped it on her, but she kept talking. I

766
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 8: kind of gave my Crudell seat. I said, get out

767
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 8: of here because she just kept talking and I had

768
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 8: to just get out of that. But like I apologized

769
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 8: to I said, I'm gonna give your money back and everything,

770
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 8: but this is something I want you do. Don't ever

771
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 8: come to a show again if you're gonna do all

772
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 8: that loud talking in front.

773
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 5: Of because it's disrespectful, right, you know. But it's good man.

774
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: I have fun.

775
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: You mentioned Steve when you went to the Apollo and

776
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: he was the host. Yeah, and Steve I talked to

777
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: have a lot of comedians all and everybody speaking this

778
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: man glowing terms of how he's helped them. Quake talked

779
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: about how he said, look Quake on the comedy club.

780
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: He had Steve Harvey and blah blah blah, and the

781
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: ticket sales wasn't what they're supposed to be.

782
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 5: He said.

783
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: Steve told him to give everybody their money back. Just

784
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do in the morning. So they read

785
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: on the radio show the next morning, brought everybody donuts

786
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: and coffee and they promoted the show. Uh said. The

787
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: entertainer told us, Hey, Steve got me on TV. Says

788
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: I want this guy right here. He the buddy of mine.

789
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: Did Steve partake any wisdom? What is what Steve?

790
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, let me tell you. And Steve was straight up.

791
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 8: I mean it wasn't. It was straight no chase, and

792
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 8: I never forget. I went to the polo and Steve said,

793
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 8: this is all I want you to do. He said,

794
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 8: when people come out and see you, give him something back.

795
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 8: And he said, I want you to start dressing and suits.

796
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 8: He said, your big dude. He said, you look good

797
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 8: and suits and I had on some Sean John sweatshirt. Yeah,

798
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 8: he said, man, that stuff right, the good when you're traveling, right,

799
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 8: he said, you're getting on the plane, you go into

800
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 8: those seat right right, comfortable, he said. But on stage,

801
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 8: he said, no, that's why I started wearing suits. And

802
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 8: he took me up in his dress room. He showed

803
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 8: me the suits he had, he gave us he had

804
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 8: on the floor. I said, well, I guess I can,

805
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 8: and I I was. I was like, I ain't gonna

806
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 8: have no suits on stage, you know what I'm saying,

807
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 8: And he said, just do it. And I kept listening

808
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 8: to him, listen to him, and I did it, and

809
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 8: it just changed my whole life. And he and he

810
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 8: always gave you a wisdom on how you should do,

811
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 8: how you should dress, how you should handle yourself in public.

812
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 8: And Steve always kept good dudes around him, you know

813
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 8: what I'm saying. Like he got a body guy named

814
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 8: Boomerang has been with him for years and years and year,

815
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 8: and boom like, hey, man, just listen to what he

816
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 8: got to say and everything you got. So I'm gonna

817
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 8: do it. And when I did it, it just changed

818
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 8: my whole life. So I got to get big up

819
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 8: to Steve Man. You know, I call him off Steve,

820
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 8: and he knows what he's talking about. And it's proven

821
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 8: facts now because Steve can really do more than that

822
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 8: on Family Feud. But he can't do that much because

823
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 8: some stage his face will tell you everything.

824
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 5: What do you want to say? You know what I'm saying,

825
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 5: because people say some stupid stuff on there.

826
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: You He was like, what do you just say?

827
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 5: But family? If you have not been the same since

828
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 5: Steve started hosting that.

829
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: I look at the comedians and it started way back.

830
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: You look at Cosby, uh did TV? You look at

831
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: Red Fox? You saw prior. You see all the top

832
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: comedians do television set then attain a deep deal huge

833
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey, a lot of them, guys, What is it?

834
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: Do you think your weight held you back?

835
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 5: I think so.

836
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 8: That's a very good quote. I think so because people

837
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 8: think you can't do it, but you have to. We

838
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 8: have to prove ourselves right, to prove us just like

839
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 8: it's like black people.

840
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: We have to be.

841
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: Overqualified to do a job.

842
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: You get the marginal job right.

843
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 8: And I think it have And I think people are

844
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 8: scared and well, I hope you don't fall out on stage,

845
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 8: but what about the skinning?

846
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 5: People fall out on stage?

847
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: Right? You know what I'm saying. But I'm gonna create

848
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: mom and make your mom right, because that's all you.

849
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you've been You've been the wash with Snoop

850
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: Dogg and Doctor Dre And.

851
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 5: When I did that movie, let me tell you, I

852
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 5: was so scared.

853
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 8: I didn't know that was my first movie, didn't know

854
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 8: what to do, but I wanted to be more agile

855
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 8: in that movie. They want Snoop was like that him,

856
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 8: do you know, I want to roll on the ground

857
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 8: like I was Super Cop. You know what I'm saying.

858
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 8: But they kind of just now, we don't want to

859
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 8: do that. But Snoop and dra was like, let him

860
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 8: write what man, let it be him right. But I

861
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 8: was very nervous when I did that movie. And if

862
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 8: I ever get a chance to do it again, I'm.

863
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: Gonna rap it. I'm gonna rip it.

864
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Are you afraid after what transpired a couple of years

865
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: ago at the Obscuits? Are you afraid about people running

866
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: up on stage if you work to say.

867
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 5: Something, take you something that's channing.

868
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 8: Come on now, I'm gonna do you like you didn't

869
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 8: come on, come on now, Channing, come on, come on,

870
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 8: come on. That It wouldn't have happened to him. Brother

871
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 8: Will Smith would have never ran up on trick Daddy

872
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 8: like that. If Trick Daddy was saying the same thing,

873
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 8: said the same, he didn't.

874
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: He hesitated. See you you don't run up on no food,

875
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 5: Trick Daddy on the chair.

876
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: He could have ran up on me or you like that.

877
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: And Chris Rock is my boy. I love him.

878
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 8: With Chris book thirty, yeah, I know nine then he

879
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 8: about thirty. When you put your clothes on, you know

880
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 8: what I'm saying. But he took it and he kept

881
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 8: it professional, right, But I bet something in his mind

882
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 8: was like you lost your in mind, right, you know

883
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 8: what I'm saying. And Will when Will slapped it, he

884
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 8: went across. He didn't go like it was from the

885
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 8: shoulders all the way to the floor.

886
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

887
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 8: And he wouldn't have did that to me because he'd

888
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 8: have been a fighting there. I'm gonna tell you how

889
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 8: to put him in a how to put him in

890
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 8: a sleephole.

891
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: And if I got that.

892
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 8: Second win, he'd went out. You can't do a man

893
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 8: like They could have handled that in a better way,

894
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 8: I believe it. And actually I thought Will was coming

895
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 8: up to joke with him right the way it looked,

896
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 8: it looked like he was gonna come up with Joe.

897
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 5: With him because and then because Chris said, here come

898
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 5: Richard like that.

899
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Richard.

900
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 5: He thought he was joking, right, and We'll po cocked

901
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 5: him right, you know what I'm saying.

902
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 8: And he apologized later. But and I never met Will,

903
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 8: don't get me wrong. And only thing I heard heard

904
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 8: about Will was great things. I've heard great things about it.

905
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 8: But when I saw that, whooo, even the white people

906
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 8: are like, oh no, right, we don't do that at dogs?

907
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 8: Could you know what I'm saying? And you lost a

908
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 8: lot of money behind it. Of course he lost a

909
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 8: lot of light behind it. But I had to come

910
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 8: back that suit player, you know, if I had took

911
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 8: seat on.

912
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: So you don't worry about it. So you don't worry

913
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 1: about it anymore, because, like I said, you do chop

914
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: it up with the crowd. You will get on what

915
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: people wearing, what their hair looked like, what the shoes

916
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: looked like. So you don't worry about that.

917
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 5: No, not at all, not at all. Man.

918
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: See Chris Rock the special. What did you think about it?

919
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 5: I like it, man, I didn't like they cut out

920
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 5: the part with Will.

921
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 8: They showed it the very first time but then afterwards

922
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 8: they cut the part I will they should let him

923
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 8: tell the.

924
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: Story, right, it happened. It happened the whole world kind

925
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: of like kind of like they banded any books. Yeah,

926
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: they don't want to tell the history. It happened.

927
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 5: It happened. That's right. It happened.

928
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 1: Because you cut it out, don't mean it didn't happen.

929
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 8: I had a friend in Europe and said didn't did

930
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 8: He just slapped him right, understand because they saw first

931
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 8: the time that he said did it just yeah, it

932
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 8: just happened.

933
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 6: Show it.

934
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 8: Let him talk about it. And and and I think

935
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 8: Wheeler come around. I think he's gonna come around here

936
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 8: and and and apologize. When you got a woman that

937
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 8: don't that don't.

938
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: Really like you, you got all over time about you're

939
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: not the first man that said this. I'm on there.

940
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: I don't think she does.

941
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: I think, what damn why they're gonna be married all

942
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 1: these years? At some point time you get.

943
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 5: I think she liked the lifestyle. Now, who's she gonna

944
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: mad with that much money?

945
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: Oprah?

946
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: Oprah? Gonna happen?

947
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 8: You know, I say what I'm saying, I mean, and

948
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 8: then she's she's she's mean, is she Well, I don't

949
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 8: know anything about it, so I'm just I don't think

950
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 8: about it. I could just see it in her face

951
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 8: for her to sit there. See a real woman would say, hey,

952
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 8: don't don't get up and don't you miss this money. No,

953
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 8: don't don't get up and do that talk to him

954
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 8: after the show. She wanted him to go up there

955
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 8: and do that, you know what I'm saying. And he

956
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 8: did it, and then he yells at keep my wife name.

957
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 8: You should have been talking to your wife when she

958
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 8: be messed with the young boy? Did I bring that up?

959
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 2: Over? Over?

960
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 5: Canon?

961
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: Word he might send for you?

962
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 8: He can't slap me, though, I'm telling you, I'll put

963
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 8: him in the figure four first out. I will reflat him.

964
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 8: I hit him in the ass fle when you do that,

965
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 8: I'm going to the figure fole. I'm going to the field.

966
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: And the guy that's stopping by for conversation on the

967
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: drink today is one of the most powerful figures in sports.

968
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: He's a self made superagent, founder CEO of Clutch Sports.

969
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: His agency represents over two hundred athletes in multiple leagues.

970
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: He's negotiated over four billion dollars in contracts. He's an entrepreneur,

971
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 1: a businessman, and he's from the East side of Cleveland

972
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: to the top of the sports world. His newest memoir,

973
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: Lucky Me, a memoir of changing the odds. Rich Paul.

974
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: I was a pretty good athlete. I will say this,

975
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: laugh if you want to.

976
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 7: I'm one of the best shooters stuff even still to

977
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 7: this day. And I'll take my chat. If I was

978
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 7: in the one of four fifty, I'll be at the top.

979
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 7: This guys like me, Steph Clay, Clay who Thompson. Oh,

980
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 7: I was gonna be dang.

981
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: This man talk about he shooting?

982
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 6: Like, are you talking?

983
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: If you just talking shooting, this is a class I'm

984
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 4: in y'all.

985
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: Going down to the gun range? That h you talk

986
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: about basketball into a.

987
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 4: Rim, Trey Darious Garland. I'm just talking about guys in

988
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: the league right now that shoot the three really well.

989
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: I would be amongst he's having good See he's having

990
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: a good old interview. I mean it was going well.

991
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: I really the story that you was telling, Couse, it's

992
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 1: very similar.

993
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 7: But I'm talking about in terms of I didn't say

994
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 7: dribbling playing, I said shooting.

995
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying.

996
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: The mere fact that you put in yourself.

997
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: Ridge, you are talking legs. You gotta throw Reggie in

998
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: there and Ray. It's all of us.

999
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: My point here, you putting yourself in that group. I

1000
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: ain't got no problem with the name you mentioned the

1001
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: that your name is in there in terms of shooting.

1002
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't care what it is.

1003
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I feel good about it. And I ain't drinking.

1004
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 4: I'm not drinking no, yack, I'm drinking water.

1005
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: No, you should have drank so because he was too

1006
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: sober to be saying something like that. I need a

1007
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: reason why you said some bullshit like that. I'm sorry

1008
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: where you saying some police.

1009
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: Is like that.

1010
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just telling the truth. I put it this way.

1011
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 4: You know when two men got discrepan, what's the next word?

1012
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: Benit exactly? That's all, okay, it's the only way.

1013
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 4: For you to find out.

1014
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: I want you to tell the people what you told

1015
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: us before we came on there. I said you played sports.

1016
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: You're like, you know, we're get into that, said y'all.

1017
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: In football, I could run some routes, go ahead.

1018
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: I was a good rock runner.

1019
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 7: I played every position, man, But I'm not saying I

1020
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 7: was the best because I was I'm the first to

1021
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 7: say to you, No, I was not the best on

1022
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 7: my team.

1023
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 4: I wasn't the best on any team I ever played on.

1024
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: But you know what, I was great at leadership.

1025
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 7: Having pursued back the right corralling the guys, helping them

1026
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 7: understand the moment what needs to take place, my practice habits.

1027
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 4: I'm leading the leading the team when we running the

1028
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 4: laps because I have.

1029
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: To respect that, because I was expecting you to come

1030
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: out here and say, yeah, man, I could if i'd

1031
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 1: have grew like another five secs, could played NFA.

1032
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: We don't do no one thing about it, you got.

1033
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: We don't do no bunch of line. We don't do

1034
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: no bunch of line. I dont need to be getting

1035
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 4: on there talking about no line because all somebody gonna

1036
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 4: do is put up to take. So I don't need

1037
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: to do none of that. No, I can't change the

1038
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 4: color of my skin.

1039
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 7: And as tough as it is with the industry, we

1040
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 7: make it even tougher on ourselves because there's still a competition.

1041
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 7: And don't get me wrong, when you when you're going

1042
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 7: out and recruiting clients, yeah you're competitive.

1043
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: So but but you're not speaking ill you're not speaking negatively,

1044
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: and that's the thing to the best. The best man win,

1045
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: best man woman win the job. So I'm not but

1046
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say, oh, this person is this, that

1047
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: person is that to try to conjure up so the

1048
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: athlete feels some type of way. Yeah, yeah, this is

1049
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 1: what I can provide. This is what I believe. I'm

1050
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: the best man for the job that my agency and

1051
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: I think we can do the best job for you

1052
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 1: moving forward.

1053
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 7: And that's the point I was making when we talked

1054
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 7: about it, when we did first take The point I

1055
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 7: was making was, of course I didn't expect white agents

1056
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 7: to help to try to help me. That wasn't even expectation, right,

1057
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 7: But coming from where I came from, the game was given.

1058
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 4: By the older guys.

1059
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 7: Whether you decided to digest it or not was on you.

1060
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 7: But I can't sit here and say that my coattail

1061
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 7: wasn't pulled to certain things to help me get through

1062
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 7: the day, get through the month, get through the year

1063
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 7: of survival.

1064
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: So that's all I know.

1065
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 7: Only I got to give that back when I started

1066
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 7: that wasn't the case. And I've seen people online like, oh, well,

1067
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 7: you didn't say that. I'm like, you're missing the point.

1068
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: Right did you reach out?

1069
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 5: Did you?

1070
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't need to call it any names,

1071
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: but did you reach out to any agency?

1072
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 7: And I first started the business, I talked to everybody

1073
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 7: because I wanted to understand why are things the way

1074
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 7: they are? And what I came to understand is, ain't

1075
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 7: no different in the blocks and man for themselves. That's

1076
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 7: just that's just that that that has been placed upon

1077
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 7: us from a thought process.

1078
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: But what happens is when.

1079
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 7: You create those that psychology, it stunts to growth, the

1080
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 7: stunts and communication habits, its stunts.

1081
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 4: I should have came up under something that was already built, right, That's.

1082
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: Normally how it happens. Agency. They normally come up in

1083
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: a big agency and then they branch out on their own.

1084
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: You started differently, You started on your own.

1085
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 4: I started differently.

1086
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 7: I started a place, but I don't even count that

1087
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 7: because there was no education there, There was no there

1088
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 7: was no plan for me to become who I am today.

1089
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 7: But what I started to realize is, oh, you know,

1090
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 7: we work in a small industry, so things get back. Yes,

1091
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 7: the only difference is the kid on the cover of

1092
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 7: that book, in that environment when things get back, Oh.

1093
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: Were pulling up?

1094
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying. In this industry, when someone

1095
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 4: goes and and.

1096
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 7: Speaks about you in a very derogatory way for two hours.

1097
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 4: Ain't that much to say? Now, the business is the business.

1098
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: Competition is in all business.

1099
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 7: But when you make it personal, that's a different dynamic

1100
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 7: like primes and then you've made it personal.

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00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 4: But but we couldn't do that. I you know, it's

1102
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 4: not in me. I couldn't be trying to talk to

1103
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 4: a girl and mention Shannon.

1104
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: We don't.

1105
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 4: That's no go where we don't. We don't do that.

1106
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 7: And so but I'm in this game where I left

1107
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 7: a game that was being played with no rules and

1108
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 7: no rest. But you understand that, Yes, but in the

1109
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 7: corporate setting it really ain't. There's rules, but the rest

1110
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 7: are assigned to the establishment. In a lot of cases,

1111
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 7: I had to learn that. I had to learn narratives.

1112
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 7: I had to learn how media works. I had to

1113
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 7: learn all these things. And I also had to learn

1114
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 7: that the smiles is not really the smiles. But I

1115
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 7: was used to that because I came from that, So

1116
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 7: I was I was prepared thoroughly for the position I'm

1117
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 7: in today. It's just that it's hard for me to

1118
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 7: respect it.

1119
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Speaker 2: That's all.

1120
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you out of here on this one.

1121
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: And you're the closest to the story, so you would

1122
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: know what if with the vitriol of the older players

1123
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: towards Lebron, it seems like and it seems like a

1124
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: lot of the old players don't want to give the

1125
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: younger generation the credit that they deserve. But it seems

1126
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: like a lot of the ire is pointed that.

1127
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,240
Speaker 7: At twenty three, I don't think that is really corny

1128
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 7: to me, absolutely, And I do, like I said, you know,

1129
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 7: and when you're out there, you deal with certain things.

1130
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 4: It's it's layered in my opinion.

1131
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 7: Gotta remember when Lebron came in, a lot of guys

1132
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 7: were still in the prime and all the attention turned

1133
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 7: to him in two thousand, since to all the attention boom,

1134
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 7: one hundred million dollars contract, real, hundred men, not that

1135
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 7: fluff that be going out today.

1136
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 4: I'm talking about one hundred million dollars contract.

1137
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: Never drive with NBA basketball. In the NBA, they never

1138
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: seen nothing like that.

1139
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 7: You know, jay Z sending a private jet when he's

1140
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 7: sending in high school, we going up to New York

1141
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 7: every weekend, every other weekend with whatever. When you could

1142
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, all these things, they wasn't it,

1143
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 7: And so quite naturally in the neighborhood you developed what

1144
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 7: an NB it's it's much easier for you to be like, man,

1145
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 7: that's some cold man, that's some that's player, that's real player.

1146
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 4: Man. I appreciate them. I'm proud of you. That's the

1147
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: hardest thing to do. The easiest thing to do is

1148
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: what they do.

1149
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 7: Ah this you know you have and then now when

1150
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 7: you give that to a media platform, and now it's

1151
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 7: even trickling down to some of the younger players just

1152
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 7: they purposely don't say his name and things, Oh I

1153
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 7: played this because of these people. But again, if you

1154
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 7: everybody didn't always had a mama mentality. The mama mentality

1155
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 7: came after Kobe was really done. Then all of a sudden,

1156
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 7: everybody had the mama mentality.

1157
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: Because the mama. Everybody frowned the putt because they say

1158
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: he was ball hole.

1159
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, but when he was playing, because I was there,

1160
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 7: we said he wasn't hanging out with none of these guys.

1161
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: You know, you give what I'm saying, but.

1162
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 7: I'm not surprised because I come from it. I wish

1163
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 7: it was different, but I'm not surprised because I come

1164
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 7: from it. But what impressions me more is that guy

1165
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 7: don't do unto those what they do to him. His

1166
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 7: door has always been open. Every time you see somebody, man,

1167
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 7: what's up, show love, et cetera.

1168
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 4: Even when there's is he too nice?

1169
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: Because because Jordan gave the players, he played it with him, but.

1170
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 7: He understand some familiarity breed disrespect. And I tell him

1171
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 7: that sometimes they can walk past somebody, don't even speak.

1172
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 7: That make that person want to speak to you more.

1173
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,800
Speaker 7: If you speak to that person every time, it becomes

1174
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 7: And that's that's the treatment that he gets. Sometimes you

1175
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 7: get what I'm saying. They get on Draymond for being

1176
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 7: his friend. It's craziness, right.

1177
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 4: But but but again this is this is not about

1178
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 4: That's not an athlete thing. That's a people thing.

1179
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 7: And that's why I said what I said when we

1180
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 7: were talking on first take. We have to break those sites.

1181
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 7: I'm not going to do unto those others as they've

1182
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 7: done to me. That's not just not what I come from.

1183
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 7: Because you don't want those habits created.

1184
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: So if the Jordan Lebron debate ever gonna end, it.

1185
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: Ain't gonna end. But Bron's a goat, Jordan of goat,

1186
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: Lebron's a goat.

1187
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: One guy one one. One guy got gold Horne, the

1188
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: other guy got platinum horse.

1189
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got a little platinum here, but it's like

1190
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 7: platinum gold, and then Bron's all platinum.

1191
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: Lucky me A member on changing the odds. Rich Paul

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