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Speaker 1: All right, I'm recording, and we'll start with Mike Grease

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Speaker 1: Fall by Phil Perry. Devin Um. I was just reading

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Speaker 1: biggest thing is, I think sometimes even as players, like

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Speaker 1: just so into and I think ultimately for the team,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was I thought it was awesome, not

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Speaker 1: just to the fact that they all participated put their

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Speaker 1: names in listen to his story, Um, but they got

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Speaker 1: to see it come full circle, that their impact was

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Speaker 1: a huge difference players, coaches and will getting out and

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Speaker 1: now being free, and for them to hear that story,

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Speaker 1: you know, probably halfway through the journey from when you

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Speaker 1: know I sat down and told him about it, and

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Speaker 1: then to actually see like Wow, like I was getting

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Speaker 1: involved months later. Uh, this guy's free, and because he's free,

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Speaker 1: it's actually going to probably open the door up for

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Speaker 1: so many other people who are incarcerated to you know,

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Speaker 1: use the commutations and get out. So he was short

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Speaker 1: with it and you know, really wants to thank all

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Speaker 1: the guys, all the men and women in this organization

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Speaker 1: that played a part in it. But I thought it

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Speaker 1: see that your impact, your name, your time made a

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Speaker 1: huge difference in somebody's freedom. Like that's a big deal,

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Speaker 1: and I love that the guys got to see it

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Speaker 1: up close. Question Phil Perry, followed by Nick Fromelli did

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Speaker 1: when it comes to um, you know some of the

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Speaker 1: from them? And are there things there that they can apply?

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Speaker 1: You know, not only can they see what kind of

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Speaker 1: difference can be made when you're getting involved with a

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Speaker 1: person like Will, but is it inspiring you think for

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Speaker 1: them in terms of how they approach their own business. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I definitely do. I mean I think I think seeing

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Speaker 1: think even he talked about, you know, just being as

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Speaker 1: fully understand that. I think his perspective of you know,

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Speaker 1: opportunity we have as players, especially at this time of

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Speaker 1: the year right now, to every day work on yourself

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Speaker 1: that we can on the field. Will come down to individually,

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Speaker 1: all of us putting in that work now. And I

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Speaker 1: what's in front of us right now. Nicomalley felled by

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Speaker 1: Bob soci Hey, Devin, we've seen you go through the

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Speaker 1: offseason process up with a free agency a few times,

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Speaker 1: as well that understanding that each has to do it

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Speaker 1: It's it's awesome to be a part of that stretch

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Speaker 1: go Brendon McGear. Followed by Dakota Randall. Thank you, Stacy, Devin,

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Speaker 1: thanks for doing this. UM, just picking you back off

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Speaker 1: what Box said about James White. How grazy to see

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Speaker 1: having a nice offseason with t ask you boat, Matt Patricia.

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Speaker 1: Steve was really good, I'll say rainy endorsement from here,

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