1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Numbers game with Ryan Grodowski. What 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: can I say about this week's episode. It's about a 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: place where men were born to run, a place that 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: gets slippery when wet, and it's not a nursing home. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: It's a retirement community. Yes, I'm referring to the great 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: state of New Jersey, home of Bruce Springsteen, John bon Jovi, 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: and the Sopranos. This episode is all about New Jersey 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: and whether or not it can become America's next swing state. 9 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: But before I talk about the Garden State, I want 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: to go back in time a little bit, all the 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: way to the year two thousand. That election obviously was 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: important for a number of reasons. It elected George W. 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: Bush as the forty third president. It was the first 14 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: election year that Hillary Clinton won an election on her 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: own for the United States Senate in New York and 16 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: began her political career, which obviously didn't go to the 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: places that she dreamed. And it would be the last 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: time that the state of Vermont would elect a Republican 19 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: to the United States Senate after having consistently elected Republicans 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: for over a century. But most importantly, it created the 21 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: modern political map Now there have been six elections since 22 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: the year two thousand, and for the most part, they've 23 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: kind of more or less looked a lot the same. 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: Thirty five states have voted the same exact way in 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: all seven elections from two thousand to twenty twenty four. Now, 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: you might say fifteen states is a lot that have 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: changed direction over that time, and that's true, fifteen states 28 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: is a lot. But if you cut up the states 29 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,639 Speaker 1: that have only voted one time at the last seven, 30 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: so like voted six of seven times the same exact way, 31 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: like New Hampshire, for example, or North Carolina or Indiana. 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: And if you take states have only voted twice in 33 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: in a different direction five of the seven, six of 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: the seven or seven and seven states that have voted 35 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: the same exact way in the last seven consecutive elections, 36 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: you only have nine states left that have continuously flipped 37 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: back and forth for a quarter of a century. Nine 38 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: states is not that many, especially when you consider that 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: in the seven elections before two thousand, that would be 40 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: going back to the in nineteen seventy two, there were 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: only thirteen states that voted the same exact way. I mean, 42 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: you can throw in a few more states that only 43 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: voted bublic in one time, like Minnesota, which went Republican 44 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two, or only went Democrat one time, 45 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: which would be like Texas in nineteen seventy six. The 46 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: ma gets a little more full, but you get my point. 47 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: There were a lot more flippable swing states in the 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: previous three decades that in the post two decades since 49 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: the year two thousand. Now a number of states worst 50 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: swing states since two thousand have become reliably blue like 51 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: Oregon or Colorado, or reliably red like Tennessee, Missouri or Ohio. Yes, 52 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: Tennessee Missouri worst swing states back in the year two thousand, 53 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: but only one state went from being reliably red or 54 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: reliably blue to becoming a state that is the other way, 55 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: and that's Virginia. Virginia was a reliably red state is 56 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: now a reliably blue state. And only af handful of 57 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: states have really gone from being reliably red or blue 58 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: to even being swing states, like Georgia and North Carolina. 59 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: It's kind of that mid Atlantic strip right there that 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: has seen a tremendous population growth from people all over 61 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: the country and the world coming So with the post 62 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: two thousand election. We've become very use to the idea 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: swing states in America is only going to get smaller 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: and smaller and smaller. But in twenty twenty four it 65 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: reversed because a number of states moved sharply the right. Florida, Iowa, 66 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: Ohio are no longer considered swing states. Trump won them 67 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: all by over ten points. Texas, which Democrats had hoped 68 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: and believed that they were in their grass by the 69 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: end of the decade, that's kind of just gone out 70 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: the window. Now. New York moved eleven points towards Republicans, 71 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: California moved nine, Massachusetts eight, Rhode Island seven, and Illinois six. 72 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: But even that tremendous growth to the right by those 73 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: swing states, that dramatic swing towards Trump, none of them 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: can be considered swing states because they're so far left 75 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: to begin with. California, for example, would have to repeat 76 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: that same swing two more times to even be considered competitive. 77 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: New York would have to move that entire eleven points 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: all over again to be competitive, and then still it 79 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a reliably red state. But that takes us 80 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: back to New Jersey. New Jersey swung ten points to 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: the right, with Trump Winny forty six percent of the 82 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: vote to Kamala Harris's fifty two two percent. This is 83 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: the best any Republican has done in the state since 84 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, when George W. Bush only lost 85 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: it by six point seven percent to Democratic nominee John Kerry, 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: and only the third time in the last thirty five 87 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: years that a Republican came within single digits of flipping 88 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: this very blue state. So in twenty twenty four, New 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: Jersey was basically as blue as Arizona was red. And 90 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: if Arizona is a swing state, then is New Jersey. 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: That's the big question that I'm going to sit there 92 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: and grapple with because something else is going on. It's 93 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: more than a single election, It's more than just Trump. 94 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: Every month since June of twenty twenty one, Republicans have 95 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: been registering more new voters than Democrats, sometimes by a 96 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: few hundred, sometimes by several thousand, but it's added up. 97 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: In June twenty twenty one, New Jersey had two point 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: five to five million Democrats and one point four to 99 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: six million Republicans and another two point four to three 100 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: million independents. And I'll break down numbers like this, New 101 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: Jersey had one hundred and twenty thousand more Democrats than 102 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: independents and one million, ninety thousand more Democrats than Republicans. 103 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: So fast forward to twenty twenty five, when the new 104 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: registration numbers just came up on March first. March first 105 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 1: one twenty five, Democrats had two point four to four 106 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: to eight million registered voters, Republicans had one point six 107 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: one million, and independence had two point four million. Now, 108 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: I know it's a lot of numbers. Are just throw 109 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: a to you. I'll make it easy outbreak down this way, 110 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: the Democrats voter advantage. Voter enrollment advantage in New Jersey 111 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: went from one point zero nine million to eight hundred 112 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: and thirty four thousand, so two hundred and sixty thousand 113 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: voter advantage collapse over the course of four years. People 114 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: registering for third party Actually, if you can mind, all 115 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: the third parties have forty thousand more voters than Democrats do, 116 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 1: which wasn't the case New Jersey. Usually Democrats were always 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: the dominant party. And now remember voter registration changes like 118 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: people changing their voter orstration. That is usually the last 119 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: part of some one's political evolution. In other words, people 120 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: will switch how they vote. They'll switch to what podcast 121 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: they listen to, what papers they read, how they vote 122 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: in local elections, usually in the national elections, or vice versa, 123 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: depending on which election is coming up. The last thing 124 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: to change is someone's actual voter registration. That's the last 125 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: thing that's that they're going to do. They will be 126 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: a registered Democrat and but Republican or vice versa, sometimes 127 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: for decades before they actually make the switch, which is 128 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: why I state like West Virginia or Kentucky or Louisiana 129 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: had huge Democrat voter advantage dating back from the nineteen fifties, 130 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: even though they'd been Republican states for many, many many years, 131 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: going back to the Regular Revolution and Nixon Revolution. But 132 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: that's the case for New Jersey. We're seeing this mass 133 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: swing to the right, and we're seeing it with people 134 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: actually re registering to vote. Twenty twenty four was not isolated, 135 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: wasn't in a bubble. Twenty twenty four was the third 136 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: consecutive election that New Jersey moved to the right. In 137 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy, he was 138 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: supposed to sail to an easy reelection victory. Most polls 139 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: had him winning between nine and eleven points, and he 140 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: ended up winning by just three against Jack Chitdarelli, who 141 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: was running again for governor this year. Three points was 142 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: a shocker, and Jack Chitdarelli did not have national support. 143 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, Republicans gained a congressional seat in 144 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: the state, despite it being massively jerrymandered in favor of Democrats. 145 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty two, Republicans actually gained a congressional seat 146 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: in the US House delegation, and the state's voting population 147 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: moved five points to the Republican that was in the 148 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: midterms of twenty twenty two. They moved another three points 149 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four in the House. Now, it hasn't 150 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: all been smooth sailing for the New Jersey GOP. They 151 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: did lose six state Assembly seats in twenty twenty three, 152 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: but that was mostly due to redistricting. Republicans have actually 153 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: only decreased their support in that massive landslide loss by 154 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: two points in the popular vote from the previous year 155 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: when they won six Assembly seats. Yet all this proves 156 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: is that there's a slow but progressive drum beat tours 157 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: the GOP in the Garden State. Who knows. Like I said, 158 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: we've been here before. George W. Bush became very very 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: close to putting New Jersey in play in two thousand 160 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: and four. I'll bite with a much different coalition. He 161 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: had a lot more suburbanites in places like Morris County, 162 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: while Trump has a lot more urban and minority voters 163 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: in places like Pa sae It County. But he was 164 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: the first Republican since George H. W. Bush to get 165 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: that close in nineteen ninety two. So nineteen eety two, 166 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and four, in twenty twenty four, it's almost 167 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: like every decade or two we're seeing this swing. This 168 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: could be the permanent one though, If the realignment is real, 169 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: If these former Democrats with heavy emphasis on the ethnic 170 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: white Italians like an Ocean County and Asians and Hispanics, 171 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: it's all very possible that this will be the coalition 172 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: that makes New Jersey into play, makes New Jersey the 173 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: next swing state. One last set of numbers before we 174 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: get to our guests. An Emerson College poll, which is 175 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: a hit and miss polling company. It's not my favorite, 176 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: but I'll take it because it's not the worst. In 177 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: late January, they found that President Donald Trump is more 178 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: popular than Democratic Governor Phil Murphy in New Jersey. Phil 179 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: Murphy is leaving office with a forty four percent approval rating, 180 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: which isn't terrible, but when you consider among Republicans it's 181 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: only fourteen percent and among independence is twenty seven percent, 182 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: you realize on just how much he needs Democrat how 183 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: much only Democrats are really supporting him, and supporting him 184 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: by a lot. So could this mean that we end 185 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: up with the red New Jersey, a Republican governor in 186 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: the state or Republican legislature. Let's talk to our guest 187 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: who's trying to make it all happen. You're listening to 188 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: It's a numbers game with Ryan Grodowski. We'll be right back. 189 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: Scott Pressler has become iconic among Republican circles, being over 190 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: six feet tall with long brown hair flowing beautiful brown hair. 191 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: People have taken notice because he's one been outspoken Trump supporter, 192 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: but also because he's done the really hard work of 193 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: registering new voters. He runs the nonprofit Early Vote Action, 194 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: intending to register voters and get them to get Republicans 195 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: vote early, which would be wonderful. Scott, thanks for being 196 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: on the show. 197 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 2: Hey, thank you, Ryan. 198 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: Well, we delivered Pennsylvania last year and this year we 199 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: were headed to the Garden State. 200 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, the episode's all about New Jersey. So I want 201 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: to know before we get started. You know, people have 202 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: known you for going out and registering voters and writing 203 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: letters before that. I remember when you used to write 204 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: letters thank you people vote for voting for Trump. This 205 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: is back in like twenty seventeen. How did you get 206 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: started in politics and was this always your ambition to 207 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: work in politics. 208 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: No, I never thought I would be doing this life. 209 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 3: I graduated from college. I couldn't find a job despite 210 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: graduating with a three point six y three in criminal justice. 211 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 3: But this was under Obama. The economy was heearable. It 212 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: was hard for millennials to find their place in society. 213 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: And so as I'm walking dogs for a living, as 214 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm working at an elementary school, which were not my passions, 215 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 3: but I understand that those are good integral parts of 216 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: our society. I went, gosh, we can continue on this 217 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: direction with President Obama, or I can be a cog 218 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: in the machine and I can try to change society 219 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 3: for the better, and so in twenty fourteen, I moved 220 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: to Texas. 221 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 2: That's why I always have cowboy boots. 222 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: And my first political job ever was helping to elect 223 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 3: now Governor Greg Abbot down in Galveston, Texas. And so 224 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: for me, it's really been over the last decade a 225 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: political evolution of going from starting with Governor Abbot to 226 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: defeating Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen to protect the Supreme Court, 227 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: to doing trash pickups in twenty nineteen inspired by President Trump. 228 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and now I'm really I think seen as 229 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: one of the voter registration gurus on the right that 230 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 3: has become a political strategist for the Republican Party. 231 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, Scott, You're one of the people that 232 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: I can kind of relate to the most in the 233 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: sense of like you have an idea and you put 234 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: the wheels behind it and you just make it happen. 235 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: There's really no fixed, you know, job, Like you probably 236 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: don't know what you're going to be in five years, 237 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: but if you if your brain thinks of something worth 238 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: running towards, I'm you could probably do it. It's a 239 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: very unusual like life, and there's not many people I 240 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: know who kind of have it. So I just thought 241 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: of that, like, so what you do is not easy, 242 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing you give a lot of seminars and speeches. 243 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: You kind of spurred this like voter registration, grassroots effort, right, 244 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: how is that? How did that come about? And what 245 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: is that like? 246 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 3: Net So, going into twenty eighteen, I was working for 247 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: a not for profit that I couldn't be political, And 248 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 3: I want to make it clear. Early Vote Action respectfully 249 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 3: is a political action committee or APAC, so we can 250 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: take unlimited contributions, but we are not tex depectable and. 251 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: That's Early Voteaction dot com. So I just want to 252 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 2: make that clue now. 253 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: No, it's important, it's important. 254 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: And I knew that twenty eighteen had the potential to 255 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 3: be really bad for the president. You know, the Democrats 256 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: kept saying over and over that Hillary won the popular vote, 257 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: and you know, that was the me too movement, and 258 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 3: it was the year of being a woman, and I 259 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: was like, gosh, twenty eighteen is going to be so bad. 260 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: So a month before the election, I was like, Okay, 261 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: I need to quit my job. I'm going to do 262 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 3: everything I can, travel to Florida and New Jersey all 263 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: over and try to keep members of Congress in those seats. Now, 264 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: ultimately we lost it, and so going into twenty nineteen 265 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 3: was a regrouping period for me. And I was like, Scott, 266 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 3: you have no job with Scott. The Republican Party right 267 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 3: now just lost big time. What are we going to 268 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: do to shake things up? And I just had this 269 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: idea pop into my head, kind of like what you 270 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: said just a moment ago, and I went, You're going 271 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: to travel. 272 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: The country and you're going to teach people how to register. 273 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 3: To vote, because even the Republican Party is not doing 274 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 3: the grassroots organizing required in order to win elections. My 275 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: first event, Ryan was in Connecticut, where they have more 276 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: cows than people over in that state. And my first event, 277 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,359 Speaker 3: and I think it was dan Berry, we got protested 278 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: because I think the Democrats knew, Wow, this guy, if 279 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: we don't stop him now, is going to become an 280 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 3: organizer within the Republican Party. And despite the fact that 281 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: they protested us, we had more than double, perhaps triple 282 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 3: the amount of attendees. And I literally just started going 283 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: across the country from Connecticut to Fuquey, Verina, North Carolina, 284 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: down to Sarasota, Florida, and each of them I did, 285 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: gathered more attendees, got bigger, My social media profile grew, 286 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: and people went, Wow, this guy is getting stuff done. 287 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: And so I spent twenty nineteen through twenty twenty two 288 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 3: all on my lonesome organizing, traveling probably forty plus states 289 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: across the country, teaching people how to register other people 290 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: to vote. 291 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really inspiring. First of all, I think 292 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm going to start talking about myself in third person 293 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: when I'm having internal conversations like you. I think that 294 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: that would be really good for me. But to know 295 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: that it was I as I mean, we started, I 296 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: don't even know what we met, but I saw the 297 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: growth happen, and I saw the growth happen very quickly 298 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: because it is very hard work and it's something that 299 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: is not sexy and it's not glamorous, and most people 300 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: don't want to do because there are easier, sexier, glamorous 301 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: things to do. When we talked, we spoke in twenty 302 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: twenty four or twenty twenty three, whatever. I mentioned to 303 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: you that there were forty four million non college educated 304 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: white Americans who were not veraged voting. Two point eight 305 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: million were in Pennsylvania. What did you notice in Pennsylvania 306 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: that other people didn't like? How did you even find 307 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: how to like non registered people? 308 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: Well? 309 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: I am very much a data guy and mathematical and 310 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: so here's how I approach elections. I went, gosh, Joe 311 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 3: Biden quote unquote one a Pennsylvania by eighty thousand votes 312 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, and I went, okay, how are we 313 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: going to recoup those eighty thousand voters and turn those 314 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: into Republicans? And so I went as opposed to conversion 315 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 3: and persuasion, which are important. Don't get me wrong. We 316 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 3: need to be in the business of courting Democrat voters. 317 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: But ultimately, there are so many Republicans that are not 318 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 3: registered to vote. Eighty thousand truckers in Pennsylvania. I would 319 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: assume logically the majority of those are going to be Conservatives. 320 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: My organization is really vote Action. So I went, okay, 321 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 3: a trucker is probably not voting because that person is 322 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: busy serving us and they're probably driving rigs on election day. 323 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: Let's get them a meal in ballot, Let's get them 324 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: to vote early and lock in those eighty thousand votes. 325 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 3: Then we have the Amish community over especially in the 326 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: hub of Lancaster, Pennsylvania. 327 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: Now, this community, let's be real. 328 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 3: Governor Shapiro, a Democrat, has been attacking, waging a war 329 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: on their raw milk, their dairy they're farming. Then you 330 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 3: have society as a whole, which is coming down on 331 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 3: their bodily autonomy to choose not to have a vaccine 332 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: put into their children, their families. And then you have 333 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: the government coming down on their religious freedom and their 334 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 3: school choice. And it just clipped, and I said, why 335 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 3: are we not making a real concerted effort to register that. 336 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 2: Amagh to vote? 337 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: Knowing Ryan that they get married on Tuesdays in November, y'all, 338 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: what happens on Tuesdays in November election day. 339 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: Let's get the homage to Meilan Ballot. Let's get it. 340 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: They only get married on Tuesday November. 341 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: They get married largely on Tuesdays in November. 342 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: Yes, I never knew that before. Okay, that's fascinating, all right. 343 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh no. 344 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 3: And it was like a full circle moment because this 345 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 3: was like a week prior to the twenty twenty four 346 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: deadline to register to vote, and we're over in Lancaster 347 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 3: at an Amish benefit and this Amish woman comes up 348 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: to check her status because she can't do it herself online, 349 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 3: so we did it for her. She wasn't registered, they 350 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: removed her, so we got her registered and she goes, oh, 351 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 3: you know what, I'd better get myself a meal on ballot. 352 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 2: I'm going to three weddings on election day. And it 353 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: just went. 354 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 3: It was like an Aha moment that what I had 355 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 3: been practicing in the field had been come into fruition. 356 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: And we used mail in. 357 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: Ballats to deliver President Trump the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Then 358 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: we have eight hundred thousand veterans in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is 359 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 3: the fourth largest home to veterans in the entire nation. 360 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: So we went to every VFW, we went to every 361 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: American legion, and you would be shocked by the amount 362 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 3: of veterans that tell me, Scott, I already served our country. 363 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: I already did my part. I don't have to vote 364 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: because I already stopped communism overseas. And so really that's 365 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 3: where I come in. And we have to court them 366 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: and say, listen, thank you so much for your service. 367 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: We're so grateful for your sacrifice. But communism is here 368 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: domestically it's on our shores, and this is something we 369 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 3: must be continuously vigilant by voting here in our country. 370 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: And last, and probably the most important, and you'll notice 371 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 2: all of these groups. What were you talking about with 372 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: the forgotten men and American people, the white working class, Well, 373 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: if you look at the demographics, I would assume that 374 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: a lot of truckers are of that group, the homisher 375 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: of that group, veterans are of that group. And last, hunters, 376 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 2: three thousand hunters in Pennsylvania, thirty percent, three zero are 377 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 2: not registered to vote. That's three hundred thousand votes. 378 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: That is game over. That is the election. We went 379 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: to every gun shop, every gun show, and I do 380 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: believe that our work at early vote Action registering fifty 381 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: five zero thousand voters helped to deliver the Commonwealth and 382 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: two congressional seats Ryan mackenzie and Resnahan protecting. 383 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: Seven eight right. 384 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 3: Seven and eight, and then protecting Scott Peri in tenths 385 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: over in York, Adam Staffin. And then last, the most 386 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: important thing that we helped deliver as a family was 387 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: Senator Dave McCormick. 388 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: Right, I mean his vote, his election was very very tight. 389 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, I completely agree you're listening to It's 390 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: a numbers game with Ryan Gerdowski. We'll be right back 391 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: after this message. Going back to New Jersey. You know 392 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one that Phil Murphy the governor, won 393 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: by eighty four thousand, two hundred and ninety four votes. 394 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: That was his margin of victory over Jack Chidrelli. The 395 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: Republicans since them have one hundred and seven thousand new 396 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: voters and Democrats have lost one hundred and twenty eight 397 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: thousand voters. There's clearly momentum Republicans in the state, in 398 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: the Garden State. What is your goal then, going forwards 399 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: is how many you want to write short to vote next? 400 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: I guess seven months or whatever it is. Six months. 401 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 3: Sure, well, it's kind of it's kind of fortuitous that 402 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,239 Speaker 3: I would be heading to New Jersey, a state that 403 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: was lost by approximately eighty thousand votes, and twenty twenty 404 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 3: one after helping to deliver Pennsylvania, another commonwealth that was 405 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: decided by eighty thousand votes. And so my feeling in 406 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 3: this race is, as you just mentioned, the numbers are 407 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: already moving in our direction. Republicans have gained, Democrats have lost, 408 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 3: and in fact, if you have been looking at the data, 409 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 3: and the month of January, Democrats lost two thousand voters statewide. 410 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: Republicans gained ten thousand in January. Then the Secretary of 411 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 3: State did a purge in the month of February that 412 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: Democrats lost eighty seven thousand voters. Republicans lost thirty seven 413 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: thousand voters, for a net loss for Democrats of forty 414 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: nine thousand voters. So when you take that twenty twenty 415 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 3: one was decided by eighty thousand and the Democrats already 416 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 3: done down approximately fifty nine thousand, that shows me. Listen, 417 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 3: my New Jersey people that are listening right now, if 418 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: we get every single Trump voter out to vote this 419 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 3: year on Tuesday, November fourth, twenty twenty five, you will 420 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: replace Democrat Governor Murphy with a Republican governor. 421 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: Period. 422 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: Now is does you do amazing? Where is the R 423 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: and C doing anything to help you? 424 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: I will say I want to give a shout out. 425 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: So here is a departure, and look, I'm not here 426 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 3: to I'm not here to be antagonistic. That's not my goal. 427 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: I'm a nice guy. Let's just say the previous administration 428 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 3: did not invest in twenty twenty one in New Jersey. However, 429 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: you know what's already happened, Ryan and February, just a 430 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 3: week ago, Chairman Michael Wattley was at an event in 431 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: New Jersey. Casey Crosby, the coach here that replaced Laura Trump, 432 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: is doing in a event with me on March. 433 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: Thirteenth with Chairman Carlos Santos and Union County, New Jersey. 434 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: And I know, I know we're talking New Jersey right now, 435 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 3: but this is important. You know what's happening on April first, 436 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: there's a Wisconsin Supreme Court election that is going to 437 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: decide which party controls the Supreme Court going into twenty 438 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 3: twenty eight. Casey Crosby, that beautiful coach here that we 439 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: have with the rn C, she is already coming to Wisconsin, 440 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: something that the RNC didn't do in twenty twenty three 441 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: when we lost the Supreme Court. So this new RNC 442 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: is transformative and is finally listening to the grassroots and 443 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 3: is working with the grassroots. 444 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: Now. Union County, for those who don't know, is very democratic. 445 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: It's in the metropolitan New York City area. That's where 446 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: we saw the biggest Republican growth in the last election, 447 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: huge growth in Passaic County up everything near it touches 448 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: the New York City metro area and Kathy Hokals congestion 449 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: taxes not popular in that area. I will tell you 450 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: as a as a lifelong New York it's not really 451 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: popular outside Manhattan. The Have you noticed any continued push 452 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: from these areas. There's a lot of Hispanics, a lot 453 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: of Asians, But I mean, have you seen this kind 454 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: of continued change? What have they said to you? If 455 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: you've met any voters who changed their minds? 456 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: Well, part of it is seeing the change in leaderships. 457 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 3: So number one is Carlos Santos, clearly of Hispanic descent, 458 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 3: is now the chairman of Union County. He wasn't He 459 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 3: earned his way into that position. And over in Kenilworth 460 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 3: at a VFW hall just weeks ago, we had two 461 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 3: hundred and forty six attendees in February in New Jersey 462 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: and Union County. It's nice saying those momentum and Bean County. 463 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: By the way, you cannot get two hundred and forty six. 464 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: There weren't two hundred and forty six Republicans, let alone, 465 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean two years ago. It is I think Union County, 466 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure was the only county Chris Christi loss 467 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 1: when he had his landslide in twenty thirteen. 468 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 2: I'll look that up later. 469 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: I might be wrong. I'm pretty sure that I'm corrected 470 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: as the only county loss. That's how democratic it was, 471 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: despite winning the state by twenty points, super democratic. I 472 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: cannot believe there were two hundred and forty six Republicans 473 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: in a single room in the county. 474 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 3: Oh oh well, what we're going to do is, when 475 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 3: this clip is up there, this audio, I'm going to 476 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 3: reply with the video of me with the two hundred 477 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: and forty six people behind me. Because you know that 478 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: I like to show the work that I do, and 479 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 3: so there's a Scott Presler video for every single event 480 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: that I do. 481 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: But I do want to give a shout out to 482 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 2: Passaic County. There's a wonderful man. 483 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: His name is Anthony and he is the owner of 484 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: gunn for Hire in Passic County, New Jersey. Now, as 485 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: you mentioned, there are two very critical communities that are 486 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: within this county that I think are going to be 487 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: decisive to try to our Republican candidate winning the governorship 488 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: this November and those are a the Hispanic community, but 489 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 3: especially our Puerto Ricans and our Dominicans. They are heavy 490 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: in this district. And you know what gives me hope. 491 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 3: We did a training over at gun for Hire. We 492 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 3: were registering people to vote. I taught voter registration. We 493 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 3: even registered one of the workers, the young people that 494 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: was getting people's waivers to go and shoot there at 495 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: the establishment, and several members of Hispanic community that are 496 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: running for State Assembly came over to me. 497 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 2: These were all young Hispanic men and it was just 498 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: so cool to see that the tide is. 499 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: Really shifting and that the Republican Party is this faith, family, finance, 500 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: freedom party, and I think that is what is attracting 501 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 3: the Hispanic community to us. But one community that we 502 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: also must continue to shore up, especially after the track 503 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: jity of October seventh, is the Orthodox Jewish community. There 504 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: was a lot of room for growth, and so we 505 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: are making a concerted effort to get the Orthodox in 506 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 3: Pasaic registered. And also over in a town called Lakewood, 507 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: over an ocean. 508 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: Super super super Jewish, they actually elected. They voted for Trump. 509 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: I used margins and they elected a Democrat for the 510 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: state House who was a Rabbi. I don't think that 511 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: that guy can hold on though, because Orthodox usually have 512 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: huge turnouts in off yr elections, but when everyone's voting, 513 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: the numbers aren't that high. So hopefully we'll be in 514 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: back that seat too well. 515 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: And Republicans were also smart, Ryan, because what we did is, look, 516 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: we understand the different needs of the state. The June 517 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: tenth primary, New Jersey June tenth primary, so everybody registered 518 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: with a party so you can vote in your closed primary. 519 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: They actually moved it back a week because of the 520 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: religious recognization of one of the spiritual holidays that they're having. 521 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: So that shows me that the Republican Party is listening 522 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 3: and they're going, Wow, we can get more people to 523 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: vote if we choose a date. 524 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: That's not on a religious holiday. 525 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: Well, Scott, I gotta tell you, in Passaic County, usually 526 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: the only reason Dominicans and Puerto Ricans would be getting 527 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: together at a gun show is to shoot each other. 528 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: But they're getting together for you because you are bringing 529 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: every louve, bringing to quote the great Moire Rose from 530 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: schitz Creek. You have all the bigger of a wartime operator. 531 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on this show where 532 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: can people go to get involved, get active and join 533 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: your organization? 534 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: Thank you well. I want to be clear. 535 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: In addition to our work helping to flip the New 536 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: Jersey governorship from blue to red on Tuesday, November four, 537 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, we are continuing our work in the 538 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. We are going to be expanding to Nevada, 539 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: and in twenty twenty six, we're going to help President 540 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: Trump keep the House of Representatives. 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