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Speaker 1: My whole, my.
Speaker 5: Whole mantra about this was. Everybody was thinking this game
Speaker 5: would go a certain way, that it would be low scoring,
Speaker 5: that it would just be gross, you know, a lot
Speaker 5: of middle of the field back and forth, not and
Speaker 5: I thought, Wow, it's going to go the other way.
Speaker 5: Somebody will figure out a way to air things out
Speaker 5: a little bit and move the ball and score some points.
Speaker 5: They did not. It did not happen. And what you
Speaker 5: got was the Patriots win, the most important thing, but
Speaker 5: a game that was, let's face it, at times not
Speaker 5: easy to watch.
Speaker 1: No, and by times do you mean while the game
Speaker 1: was going.
Speaker 6: On, I mean generally from the first minute to this was.
Speaker 1: There was one at an interest that's the only place
Speaker 1: Old Brown touched it.
Speaker 6: That was it.
Speaker 1: That really was it.
Speaker 5: I mean, in terms of our good, bad and injured,
Speaker 5: we're gonna have a lot on the injured today, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: But in terms of like good and bad, there's not
Speaker 5: a lot. There's not a lot to dissect. I'm afraid.
Speaker 6: No, let's let's just get it out of the way. Hey,
Speaker 6: they won a game. They had to win it. They
Speaker 6: got to win their one and two. They're underway.
Speaker 1: Great, Okay, I have some goods that we could tell
Speaker 1: I don't really have a lot of bad other than
Speaker 1: just the game itself, right, you know if that makes
Speaker 1: any sense.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll see them. I'll save my rant for the goods,
Speaker 6: the bads, and the injured.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, let's just let's get into it right away.
Speaker 2: Now it's time for the good.
Speaker 7: Pretty good, pretty pretty good, the bad.
Speaker 2: And the injured.
Speaker 7: Ah ah, you are right, guy.
Speaker 5: Good, the bad, and the injured round to you might
Speaker 5: be good players the bad players then. Unfortunately a few
Speaker 5: players ago banged up today, So we'll start with Mike
Speaker 5: to so your first good.
Speaker 6: Oh, hey, Pharaoh Brown, I gotta put them on there
Speaker 6: for that that. You know, I don't think anybody expected
Speaker 6: that one. And I think you know, when we talk
Speaker 6: about the plays that we'll all remember from this game,
Speaker 6: that one will be the one. This will be the
Speaker 6: Federal Brown, This will be the Faral Brown game forever.
Speaker 1: I always tell you, I like to four.
Speaker 6: Yeah. But you know, hey, nobody expected that. I didn't
Speaker 6: even think he was gonna be able to out run him.
Speaker 6: But but but great job to finish the run. And
Speaker 6: you know, just a huge play. Look at this, we're
Speaker 6: getting the Romo vision, which is amazing. Probably got we'll
Speaker 6: see what if he hit twenty miles per hour on
Speaker 6: that run. I'm guessing he might have, but not not
Speaker 6: a lot of major offensive highlights in this one, but
Speaker 6: this was certainly the number one highlights, So nice job.
Speaker 1: Farrell.
Speaker 6: Brown had another catch later I think as well, chipping in
Speaker 6: a little bit as well, but nice catch, nice touchdown,
Speaker 6: needed it. That was the difference in the game.
Speaker 5: We're four, keep your nose to the grindstone, suspect.
Speaker 6: Retainer, Yes, suspect.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go yeah, sort of wide ranging here,
Speaker 1: but just everything about the defense today. And you know,
Speaker 1: the game plan to me is where I kind of
Speaker 1: and I don't know enough about the ex's and o's
Speaker 1: to explain to you exactly what they did. But they hunted,
Speaker 1: they do. The game plan was was excellent. I thought
Speaker 1: they had some different kind of base sets early on
Speaker 1: early downs to stop the run. They had like Anthony
Speaker 1: Jennings out there making a big tackle for loss early
Speaker 1: first play of the game. I thought you saw some
Speaker 1: Sam Roberts. Unfortunately they had to rotate through some defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that later in the segment. But and
Speaker 1: then they coupled that with, you know, going back to
Speaker 1: the man coverage that has really bothered Zach Wilson. I
Speaker 1: thought Gonzales again was excellent, so kind of wide ranging.
Speaker 1: Really everything about the defense today, from from the play
Speaker 1: to the the execution and the game plan I thought
Speaker 1: was outstanding.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Just I mean I know that I know what they played,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to get added. Okay, I know
Speaker 1: who they played against today, and I know he was
Speaker 1: responsible as much as anything for how well they played defensive.
Speaker 1: But I thought the game plan is exactly how you
Speaker 1: should play that guy. Yeah, and I thought it was
Speaker 1: they can't beat you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, based on like our keys, you know, it just
Speaker 6: seemed like they had a specific look. We are gonna
Speaker 6: put our heavy lineup out there. On the defense. We're
Speaker 6: gonna put three four base personnel, you know, just four
Speaker 6: defensive backs. Sam Roberts is in the game. You mentioned Jennings,
Speaker 6: who you know, had a great, you know, first play.
Speaker 6: I continue to be intrigued by him.
Speaker 1: He twenty carries by the way for thirty thirty six.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they did, they did, and maybe we'll have to
Speaker 6: split the key, don't. We'll see what Hardy comes.
Speaker 3: Up with it.
Speaker 1: There were no Hall passes. Bro, there's no Hall passes
Speaker 1: at all. Uh.
Speaker 6: And and although we did stop the round, don't know
Speaker 6: how much fun we had. I guess we're having some
Speaker 6: fun now though.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: But yeah, no, I agree with you, and just you know,
Speaker 6: the approach made a lot of sense. For Look, we're
Speaker 6: not interested in, you know, having a roll Jude on
Speaker 6: out there to make a statement. We'll save him for
Speaker 6: the passing downs and and we'll let the other big
Speaker 6: guys take care of the run. They did. They did
Speaker 6: a great job, and really it was it was. It
Speaker 6: shouldn't have been as scary as it was, but but
Speaker 6: they did a good job.
Speaker 5: Split the key, chop it up, cut it, get a
Speaker 5: couple of G packs out of it, so we can
Speaker 5: make what I'm talking about. Oh no, so defensively, I
Speaker 5: was trying to come up with something more specific.
Speaker 1: Paul just covered it all.
Speaker 5: I mean, no, no, no, no, it's because it's it's not fair.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say downfield coverage. The downfield coverage was excellent.
Speaker 5: Everything was, but so was the run defense, and so
Speaker 5: was the I mean I call it the pass rush.
Speaker 5: It was getting to uh uh Zach Wilson and making
Speaker 5: him uncomfortable, which, let's face it, I don't think takes
Speaker 5: a whole lot, but you gotta do it, and you
Speaker 5: gotta get into the backfield.
Speaker 1: You just gotta seems like if you went, hey, Zach,
Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable, I'm uncomfortable, get back there.
Speaker 5: Let him know you're there. And they did. They did
Speaker 5: it all day and and and let's face it, there
Speaker 5: were a couple of times where he did have time.
Speaker 5: But the downfield coverage is the one I guess that
Speaker 5: I would point out.
Speaker 1: Was so good. Gonzo again, Romo and just now, I
Speaker 1: do think there was that was a lot to do
Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson. But yeah, I mean again everything about
Speaker 1: them defensive. I mean, you hold an NFL team to
Speaker 1: to nothing. Big stop in overtime by the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: That's my first red zone chimement. It's fine.
Speaker 5: I mean, honestly, after a game like that, I think
Speaker 5: we all deserve to watch some red zone here.
Speaker 1: I'd like to support it. I'd like to see how
Speaker 1: football was playing. I'd like to watch some football time.
Speaker 6: Miami scores seventy points, seventy points too many points.
Speaker 1: Just so you know, I don't think that the Jets
Speaker 1: could score seventy points if there was no.
Speaker 6: Defense, if it was just me, you and Hardy out there,
Speaker 6: that the three of us.
Speaker 5: They were required to throw the ball three out of
Speaker 5: four times. Do you think they could score seventy points
Speaker 5: if they were if is it raining?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 1: They I mean, somehow they did it on that drive,
Speaker 1: but I you know, it was just bad. It was
Speaker 1: really bad, all right, So we're up to Mike. Anything
Speaker 1: else over.
Speaker 6: That, Mike, I guess, I mean not really. I think
Speaker 6: you've kind of kind of covered it all with the defense.
Speaker 6: Those were primarily my Jennings, you know, Jude on with
Speaker 6: the sack. I thought that was a you know, big
Speaker 6: play for the safety there at the end. But I
Speaker 6: think over all, though, Paul, you you pretty much covered it.
Speaker 1: If the safety actually kind of in a weird way,
Speaker 1: hurt them because it allowed them to flip field position
Speaker 1: and have a chance like.
Speaker 6: Should have done the intentional s No, but if you think.
Speaker 1: About the way that unfolded, I'm not suggesting they you know,
Speaker 1: they did it on purpose, because they didn't. But if
Speaker 1: let's just say he checks it down here because this
Speaker 1: guy who's wide open, you know, and they get ten
Speaker 1: yards they punt, the Patriots aren't going to take over
Speaker 1: on their own fifteen.
Speaker 6: That's a good point.
Speaker 1: And that's where they took over as on their own
Speaker 1: fifteen after that free kick by Morstead, so that had
Speaker 1: actually worked out in their advantage and then end up
Speaker 1: getting the ball at the forty five yard line, which
Speaker 1: is a really good field position. Yeah, they went four
Speaker 1: and out because you know the chuckle head checks it
Speaker 1: down on fourth and ten with that, I just don't
Speaker 1: get it. I don't get it. I had one more,
Speaker 1: I would say.
Speaker 6: Break tackles. I'm going to give It're gonna give.
Speaker 1: Hardy a chance to chuckle at me. Ezekiel Elliott. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he ran first time I saw him, look
Speaker 1: like he had any I don't think he had any burst,
Speaker 1: but any production. He was sixteen for eighty five yards
Speaker 1: of carry. That's a healthy day. Yep, that's a healthy day.
Speaker 1: He plea.
Speaker 6: I thought he ran wealth more on that in a second.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean for somebody who's so willing to give him praise,
Speaker 5: you think he would have been willing to give him
Speaker 5: the benefit of the doubts say he could have rushed
Speaker 5: for over twenty three and a half.
Speaker 1: Yards actually I missed it by fifty yards.
Speaker 6: I think sometimes though Paul relishes the chance to admit
Speaker 6: when he's wrong about something like I'm not afraid to
Speaker 6: say that I'm wrong. An opportunity here to prove that
Speaker 6: I don't mind anyone I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: My last good just being able to score first and
Speaker 5: play with the lead for once. I don't know that
Speaker 5: it makes a difference in this game. I really don't
Speaker 5: know that it oh factors in all that. It's a good,
Speaker 5: good key, yeah, but I mean three nothing, just to
Speaker 5: just to get out in front for once this season
Speaker 5: and get on the board first in the first quarter.
Speaker 5: Mind you, they haven't been ahead all year, so to
Speaker 5: play with the lead the entire day, the first quarter
Speaker 5: was quite valuable. I do not believe they have any
Speaker 5: points until today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first quarter.
Speaker 5: All right, good progress, great progress, not perfection.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get out of the bads. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna let this fly.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm gonna put it under the banner of
Speaker 6: second half offense. But I would say, especially focusing on
Speaker 6: the end of game, situational offense, where you had at
Speaker 6: least three different opportunities to close this game, close this
Speaker 6: game out with a first down and you weren't able
Speaker 6: to get it. I'm not sure what that passed to
Speaker 6: Juju Smith Schuster was like, you know, that looked like
Speaker 6: they were completely not on the same page. Why are we,
Speaker 6: you know, a play to close the game out. We're
Speaker 6: targeting a guy that has not been productive, has not
Speaker 6: been on the same page, and again that ball falls incomplete.
Speaker 6: So I just I feel good about the win, but
Speaker 6: I just am scratching my head and honestly a little
Speaker 6: bit like annoyed that it was this close of a
Speaker 6: game that they couldn't close it out, that the offense
Speaker 6: just went all right. Field goal on T ten for
Speaker 6: forty two that drive in the opening then three penalties
Speaker 6: and a punt on the next possession, six for seventeen, punt,
Speaker 6: six for thirty two, punt, punt, punt. So just you
Speaker 6: talk about situational football, I thought that it was just
Speaker 6: gross down the end, and you know, to have that
Speaker 6: kind of opportunity and put it back on the defense
Speaker 6: not once, not twice, but three times. I just found
Speaker 6: that to be unacceptable. And for you're playing a team
Speaker 6: that is as bad as it can get at the
Speaker 6: quarterback position, and yet still somehow they're firing to the
Speaker 6: end zone to potentially win the game on the last play.
Speaker 6: I find that just kind of repulsive.
Speaker 1: I don't blame you, Yeah, I would just say the
Speaker 1: overall sloppiness, and it wasn't the entire game, but you know,
Speaker 1: it just picked up and there was a there was
Speaker 1: a drive, I want to say, the second drive of
Speaker 1: the game. They had the decent field goal drive to
Speaker 1: start and then they had the ball and they were
Speaker 1: moving again and they had second and six from the
Speaker 1: from around the twenty and you know, uh, I think
Speaker 1: cold cold strange got called for a hold. They ended
Speaker 1: up getting no points on that drive because they got
Speaker 1: knocked back and made it a long field goal. And
Speaker 1: then in the second half you get like a ridiculous
Speaker 1: cheap shot. I thought block bike juju just a kind
Speaker 1: of a needless penalty that pushes them back inside the
Speaker 1: ten and you're not able to get out of that hole.
Speaker 1: So I just thought the the overall in the back
Speaker 1: to back fall starts after that, a lot of sloppiness
Speaker 1: that contributed to their inability to put the game away
Speaker 1: in the in the second half. So I would agree
Speaker 1: with Mike, Okay, you have another one you want to
Speaker 1: add your own. I didn't really have a ton of
Speaker 1: other bad things that like that to me is a
Speaker 1: really dumb penalty right there. Yeah, you know, you blocking
Speaker 1: the wrong way, which is illegal, you block in a
Speaker 1: blind side, which is illegal, and you kind of hitting
Speaker 1: a guy who's not even looking. You know, It's like
Speaker 1: there was a lot, there was a lot bad about
Speaker 1: that that play, and I just feel like that they
Speaker 1: they did some curious things, I felt in the second half,
Speaker 1: but you know it was enough to get the win. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The sloppiness, the back to back offensive line penalties, it
Speaker 5: just bothers me. And look, I gotta put I gotta
Speaker 5: put our kicker on there.
Speaker 1: How bad today? You can't miss two field goals. I
Speaker 1: was gonna put Cardona too, like just included in that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he had he had the bad snap on one.
Speaker 5: And then you know, if your calling card is your
Speaker 5: big leg and you're supposed to be able to hit
Speaker 5: from from distance, I'm not saying you got to be perfect,
Speaker 5: but you can't miss two in a fifteen to ten game,
Speaker 5: and he missed two. So uh yeah, I mean, I'll
Speaker 5: here's the thing, I'll say for him, you know, he's
Speaker 5: what is he kicked now five field goals as a
Speaker 5: pro it's forty nine, forty eight, forty eight, fifty seven
Speaker 5: and fifty one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, they're not giving them.
Speaker 5: Could you give but you know, yeah, something to help
Speaker 5: build the confidence a little bit. But no, that's not
Speaker 5: what this team was built for right now, building confidence
Speaker 5: on offense.
Speaker 1: But that's the only reason why the game was close
Speaker 1: is the Patriots inability to score on those drives in
Speaker 1: the first half, which kind of left it, you know,
Speaker 1: a ten to nothing game, and you sort of you know,
Speaker 1: they were hanging around.
Speaker 6: Yep, any other bads you want to get to Mike, Yeah, Remandre,
Speaker 6: I mean, nineteen carries fifteen nine yards a three point
Speaker 6: one clip long of ten. I just don't know what's
Speaker 6: going on with him. I just don't really feel like
Speaker 6: he's seeing it right now. He's not really fine in
Speaker 6: the holes. I mean, it's just I mean, Paul said it.
Speaker 6: You know, a pretty nice game from Elliott. I didn't
Speaker 6: really expect that Elliott would look better than ramondre Stevenson
Speaker 6: coming into this year. But it's just kind of three
Speaker 6: middling blog games. There's a lot of times where it
Speaker 6: just seems like he's slowing down right as he gets
Speaker 6: to he's got that getting tackled. There's a lot of
Speaker 6: runs for no gain. We're not seeing him slip out
Speaker 6: of tackles like he used to. He's not on the
Speaker 6: injury report. I gave him the excuse a couple of
Speaker 6: weeks ago of being, you know, having the stomach ailment
Speaker 6: and maybe that was what limited him. But I just
Speaker 6: don't think it's been a great start to the season
Speaker 6: for him. He hasn't been a weapon. He was super
Speaker 6: effective in training camp. Seemed like they're throwing in the
Speaker 6: ball all the time. He had to drop the drop
Speaker 6: pass on the third deb third and three on the
Speaker 6: second possession.
Speaker 1: Probably would have been able to get a first down
Speaker 1: had he caught it. Yeah, you know, a guy would
Speaker 1: have had to make it. Probably a tough tackle in
Speaker 1: space there. I like Rimondre's chances on that.
Speaker 6: But I just I'm not I'm just kind of curious
Speaker 6: what's going on. He can't really seem to get it going.
Speaker 6: Plays like that where you know, it seems like there's
Speaker 6: maybe something there, and then he's not able to really
Speaker 6: get free break. A couple of tackles and make some
Speaker 6: big gains like he has in the past. That's been
Speaker 6: his mo. It just hasn't looked like Romandra yet.
Speaker 1: Now, I do think and I agree he you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't produce today, but I do think that he
Speaker 1: had a good share of carries today where he just
Speaker 1: got hit as soon as he had the ball, like
Speaker 1: he's getting hit behind the line. I do wonder about
Speaker 1: the shotgun runs for him if they're not necessarily his forte.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean the other guy was productive and
Speaker 1: he wasn't three yards of carry compared to five. And
Speaker 1: we as far as we know, his tom thumb's all better.
Speaker 6: Now, so it's been two weeks. It better better. He
Speaker 6: doesn't have pepto in there, something little moodium, something anything
Speaker 6: ginger ale. Mom's got the general Werners in Michigan.
Speaker 1: We drank. Yeah, that was that was the brand.
Speaker 6: Can i'sak a quick question? Yeah, and you were sick,
Speaker 6: would you get what would your like mom give you
Speaker 6: to be sick? And like if you're going to throw up?
Speaker 6: What would like was there an item? Because we used
Speaker 6: to have a bucket in my house, Like the bucket,
Speaker 6: you know, it's just like a little bucket that you
Speaker 6: know you would. But my wife is like my wife's
Speaker 6: brown paper bags. I'm like, that doesn't seem like it
Speaker 6: would contain what she is?
Speaker 1: She a flight attendant? What is she a literal bar?
Speaker 6: And she's making fun of me for a bucket.
Speaker 1: I'm like a little. But it was more of like
Speaker 1: it was like a little basin almost. It was like
Speaker 1: I had a little curve on it.
Speaker 5: Yeahs had a little curve on It was actually I
Speaker 5: think built to like.
Speaker 1: Kind of to get the overrun form good, good postgame time.
Speaker 6: I would connect it because I felt like I needed
Speaker 6: that the Colts.
Speaker 1: Have beat in the raw Colts.
Speaker 5: Uh a lot of a lot of knockout pools blowing.
Speaker 1: Up this week. Gardner minshew, I think Colts Ravens is.
Speaker 5: Going to knock a lot of people out. I got
Speaker 5: hammered with the Texans game.
Speaker 6: There so some crazy scores. It seems like today I
Speaker 6: really can't like fully grasp what happened. I don't have
Speaker 6: the Paul supercomputer mind where he's like he's already know all.
Speaker 1: The Ravens, you know everything. So the Ravens just got screwed.
Speaker 1: They had the ball around midfield. It was fourth and
Speaker 1: three and they went for it and they had a
Speaker 1: little crosser to Zay Flowers who got absolutely mauled tackled
Speaker 1: before the ball got there. No call gave the Colts
Speaker 1: the ball at midfield. They got a first down and
Speaker 1: kicked the winning field goal. It is amazing.
Speaker 5: He's sitting here talking, participating in the show, and he
Speaker 5: just precided what happened there like perfectly.
Speaker 10: Game.
Speaker 6: It's impressive game.
Speaker 1: It's a big monitor right there. Well, I know, and
Speaker 1: you know, and fairness to you guys. You guys have
Speaker 1: to sort of turn your head away from the conversation
Speaker 1: whereas I'm talking to you and watching it at the
Speaker 1: same time, I have.
Speaker 5: To start five seconds before I know what teams are playing,
Speaker 5: you know, and it's like you're identifying players and miss
Speaker 5: penalties and everything else. There's no sound up on us.
Speaker 5: By the way, that Texans Jaguars game. Did you hear
Speaker 5: that stat that was thrown out? I think at halftime
Speaker 5: that the Texans have owned the Jaguars.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 1: It's just like this random thing.
Speaker 6: Or a team that it hasn't tell me about that
Speaker 6: we were making our picks this week, which was informing
Speaker 6: when teams own other team.
Speaker 1: Like the Texans have owned the I. I was not
Speaker 1: overly aware of that one, So I apologize. I had
Speaker 1: I had the Jacks. I lost that one. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I lost that one.
Speaker 5: And it's it was some unbelievable number like eight out
Speaker 5: of the last nine games or something like.
Speaker 1: That's nuts, nine times nine times. All right, thank you.
Speaker 6: I think I already mentioned it, But I think you
Speaker 6: should be on the down list to.
Speaker 1: My professional life is like an annoying I agree. I
Speaker 1: think that he just looks thoroughly ineffective.
Speaker 6: Doesn't look like he knows what's going on.
Speaker 1: Strangely, Maco's run twice, yeah on third downs, big play
Speaker 1: in the game.
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know that feels. I mean, does
Speaker 6: that feel like a little bit like, let's get them,
Speaker 6: Let's get them a big play, Let's get them, you know,
Speaker 6: like you're trying to put the narrative in front of
Speaker 6: the play and just but it is weird when you
Speaker 6: look at like their totals from tonight, because Kendrick Bourne
Speaker 6: got four catches and everybody else was two or one.
Speaker 6: Nobody else had more than then two catches other than
Speaker 6: Kendrick Huido. For forty six.
Speaker 1: What else were we going to do? Get to the injuries,
Speaker 1: shall we? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Some significant ones there? Gotcha left out ankle, quality, left out, shoulder.
Speaker 6: I thought it was elbow, elbow, Maybe that might know
Speaker 6: that was the general what they were looking at initially,
Speaker 6: so I'll put elbow. It seemed like Cole Strange was
Speaker 6: out for a little bit, but he went back in.
Speaker 6: Peppers came out for a little bit, he went back in.
Speaker 6: Henter Henry left for a second and he went back in.
Speaker 6: I don't think I'm missing anybody else.
Speaker 1: You say, Judon and Peppers both went back and Strange
Speaker 1: was out with But then someone said that they were
Speaker 1: looking at his ankle, so yeah, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's an additional injury. And then you know, what
Speaker 1: did you mention Henry Henry when hosts aren't listening? Yess
Speaker 1: how I end up watching red Zone and missed the conversation.
Speaker 1: That's okay. Seventy to twenty. The Dolphins beat the Bronx,
Speaker 1: seventy beat the bag out of them? Did that go over?
Speaker 1: Who was the total on that?
Speaker 6: It was one?
Speaker 1: For those of you who care about these sorts of things,
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley saved his job by the defense forcing an
Speaker 1: interception in the end zone. To close out that game.
Speaker 1: He went for a fourth and one from like his
Speaker 1: own twenty at the end of the game with about
Speaker 1: a minute fifty left and live to tell about it
Speaker 1: when he didn't get it because they had a deflection
Speaker 1: in a in a pick. All right, shall we go
Speaker 1: to the photo. Are you doing the Arsennial hall thing?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 6: You'll see why I'm doing the Arsenio hall thing.
Speaker 5: I believe because we have Jabriel Peppers on the line
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Speaker 5: great game, Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 13: Yes, sir, thanks for having a Jabrill.
Speaker 6: Just how does it feel to get that that first
Speaker 6: win of the season off your back?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 14: It always feels good when you get a winning this league.
Speaker 15: You know what I mean?
Speaker 16: We aren't it. We worked hard, but you know now
Speaker 16: we got.
Speaker 14: To start stacking them up.
Speaker 1: So Jabrill, I wanted to ask you a little bit
Speaker 1: about the defensive game plan. It seemed like you guys
Speaker 1: kind of went with a base look on early downs,
Speaker 1: really stopping the run. But yet you guys didn't seem
Speaker 1: to sacrifice anything on the back end. The coverage was
Speaker 1: really air tight all day. What was the key to
Speaker 1: all the success you guys had.
Speaker 14: It's like you said, stopping the run, you know, make
Speaker 14: the one dimensional. You know, we knew that we had
Speaker 14: to stop the run and let our great pass rush
Speaker 14: is get a chance to rush the past. So you know,
Speaker 14: that was our main focus. We didn't do a good
Speaker 14: job of that last week, and you know, we wanted
Speaker 14: to come out with an emphasis to you know, stop
Speaker 14: the run.
Speaker 8: You know, physical physical.
Speaker 14: Teams, you know they stopped to run, run the ball,
Speaker 14: and cover kickoffs. So that was our mindset this week,
Speaker 14: and I think we came out.
Speaker 17: Of execute it.
Speaker 1: Jabrill Pepper's joining us Now.
Speaker 5: I got to imagine there's some games, some games where
Speaker 5: you come off field feel like, Okay, I put in
Speaker 5: a good day's work. You must feel extra good today
Speaker 5: because you're working a lot out there. On punt return,
Speaker 5: you actually left the field for a moment then came back.
Speaker 5: There was seemed like there was no way you're not
Speaker 5: going to be on that field today. Whenever you have
Speaker 5: the opportunity to.
Speaker 14: Be that said, absolutely, you know, I take pride in that.
Speaker 14: Whatever I can do to help my team win. And
Speaker 14: now all the guys a lot like that. You know,
Speaker 14: we we all know how hard it is to win
Speaker 14: in this league and whatever we.
Speaker 6: Can do to give our team an edge to Jabrill,
Speaker 6: just how did it feel you guys had a few
Speaker 6: different opportunities you needed to come up with stops there
Speaker 6: at the end of the game. Are those the kind
Speaker 6: of things that you guys can build off of there,
Speaker 6: being able to close the door, getting a safety forcing
Speaker 6: the fore and out all that.
Speaker 14: Absolutely, you know, whenever our numbers called to go out there,
Speaker 14: we plan on going out there and execute. We take
Speaker 14: pride in that.
Speaker 16: And you know we we don't talk about it.
Speaker 14: We're just gonna be about it, you know, and that's
Speaker 14: our mindset going forward.
Speaker 1: Gabel, looked like you were having some fun on those
Speaker 1: On those punt returns. The second one, it looked like
Speaker 1: you were a little bit, you know, disappointed. It looked
Speaker 1: that you was like maybe a hair away from a
Speaker 1: big place.
Speaker 14: I felt like I could have I could have got
Speaker 14: more yards on that one, you know, well, I just
Speaker 14: got to get my knees up. You know, I was
Speaker 14: a little rusty back there, man, since it's been about
Speaker 14: a year. You know, I told my acl return and
Speaker 14: so on this very stadium, and you know, I was
Speaker 14: just a little rusty. I felt like I could have
Speaker 14: did more on that one, get my knees up. But
Speaker 14: you know, I'm happy I could go out there and
Speaker 14: you know, and do the ball the right way, give
Speaker 14: our team good field position.
Speaker 6: Just along that note, youre bro, it seems like you
Speaker 6: know you've really emerged this year in this defense, I
Speaker 6: mean and the special teams. You know, you've gotten back
Speaker 6: to it to where you were just you know, to
Speaker 6: have that kind of performance on that field where you
Speaker 6: know you played for the Giants and I know you
Speaker 6: grew up in New Jersey as well. Is I mean
Speaker 6: something special for you about this game a little bit?
Speaker 14: You know, every time I come home in New Jersey,
Speaker 14: you know, I always want to do my thing, but
Speaker 14: I want to do my thing weekend and week out.
Speaker 14: It's a team game, you know. I just want to
Speaker 14: do my part, play, play the best of my ability.
Speaker 14: Hope that came out in any way I can and
Speaker 14: you know, hopefully that translated the win.
Speaker 1: All right, well you got the win today.
Speaker 5: Congratulations Jabrill Peppers. We appreciate you taking the time to
Speaker 5: join us, and good luck next week.
Speaker 14: Yes, thank you, I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much. Did you did you see Deuce
Speaker 5: light up? Juice loves Gabrill Peppers. I mean, yeah, you should.
Speaker 1: We should all have somebody love us the way dude
Speaker 1: loves Gabrill Peppers.
Speaker 5: Yes, okay, if he if he sees this, you just
Speaker 5: ruined it. You may have like started, Do you guys
Speaker 5: have any kind of rapport right now?
Speaker 1: Probably no?
Speaker 5: Okay, so you could this could have been this could
Speaker 5: have been the start of something. And then he watches
Speaker 5: that heart sign. He's like, I'm not talking that day.
Speaker 6: It's weird man. Yeah no, no, no, no, Well I'll
Speaker 6: work it out. I'll go up to him in the
Speaker 6: locker mole. We'll chat it up.
Speaker 5: Sorry, Uh, you need to get you need to talk
Speaker 5: to him just to find out. It's like, hey, when
Speaker 5: did they tell you you were going in on pump returns?
Speaker 5: But is it after the first one after Douglas did
Speaker 5: the bobbledy boop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I thought I was tactful with that,
Speaker 1: not really, you know, I didn't bring that up.
Speaker 5: No, I mean I brought it the fact that he
Speaker 5: was back there, but I didn't expect him to necessarily
Speaker 5: volunteer anything. And if ask him directly, he's certainly not
Speaker 5: going to say anything.
Speaker 6: But I wasn't paying attention though. Could that have been
Speaker 6: divided up by plus fifty punts or you know, was
Speaker 6: he taking the ones that were backed up in their
Speaker 6: end zone or was I don't I'm not sure. I'm
Speaker 6: just throwing it out there, like.
Speaker 1: Dougle just made a change, and I think that the
Speaker 1: only reason why he came back was because Peppers was
Speaker 1: probably tired. Yeah, right, Okay, I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: they liked the way that Douglas handled the first one
Speaker 1: with a double catch.
Speaker 5: I don't think any of us did. All right, Uh,
Speaker 5: let's continue here. We've got the good, the bad, and
Speaker 5: the injured out of the way. We spoke with Jibrill Peppers,
Speaker 5: and now we will speak to you on this episode
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Speaker 5: we begin with Padden and agoam hello pat Man?
Speaker 12: Oh Man? Was that ugly?
Speaker 1: Well, come on, I mean, they got the win, as
Speaker 1: that could it could have been uglier.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure it could have been.
Speaker 13: I'm happy they got the win, and they got a
Speaker 13: division win, which is big too.
Speaker 8: But I hate to be negative, but Manu Juju effing
Speaker 8: sucks is terrible. I know Evan said that he gave
Speaker 8: him Harry vibe. He reminds me more of like Chado
Speaker 8: Chosenko and twenty eleven. He just he looks lost out there.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry who looks lost out for Juju?
Speaker 6: Oh Joe, Yeah, I agree, And it's a tough combination
Speaker 6: between looking lost and not looking explosive like that.
Speaker 1: Well, see to me, I don't think it's lost. I
Speaker 1: don't think he has any juice. I think it's I
Speaker 1: think Evan's thing about Nikhil Harry, that's kind of what.
Speaker 1: I don't see him separate, I don't see him explode.
Speaker 1: I don't don't see any athleticism, and I have to
Speaker 1: think it's at least partly due to the knee.
Speaker 13: I mean, it's it's crazy that they Mac went to
Speaker 13: them with the game on the line. But hey man,
Speaker 13: I'm just happy to get out of met life with
Speaker 13: the win. I mean, they got a tough game coming up,
Speaker 13: and I mean, we'll see what happened then.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Arizona's not.
Speaker 1: Going to fall into place. Strek Carr is dead. You know,
Speaker 1: you get another backup coming up in two weeks. You know,
Speaker 1: the whole Dallas offensive lines out. It's all falling into place.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Pat, We'll see you trying to whip
Speaker 1: I'm trying to ramp up the crowd here. Okay.
Speaker 5: So the Taylor swift in Kansas City thing, it's an
Speaker 5: actual thing. I thought somebody was goofing on Twitter. No,
Speaker 5: she's there, she's there, she's there, she's watching from one
Speaker 5: of the luxury bots.
Speaker 1: Did you think it was weird? Like during the course
Speaker 1: of the week when people were talking about this, like
Speaker 1: how dismissive? Some people were like they're not dating, Like
Speaker 1: does anybody know? Like how do you really know?
Speaker 6: The Swifties don't wanna, don't want to believe it.
Speaker 1: No, like sports people like you know, I'm listening to
Speaker 1: them talk about it on ESPN, and you know, like
Speaker 1: one of the I would credit the person, but I
Speaker 1: don't remember who said it. They were like, you know,
Speaker 1: like we all know they're not dating, right, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: can't I don't know that? How do I know? Like
Speaker 1: maybe they're just I think, who do you think.
Speaker 5: Dates Taylor Swift and or Travis Kelcey? Taylor Swift and
Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey. But I will say this, and I don't
Speaker 5: know who brought this point up. I thought it was
Speaker 5: a very good one. Travis Kelcey enjoys a certain level
Speaker 5: of fame and success. Now that is a different life
Speaker 5: when you're hanging out with Taylor Swift. Like Travis Kelsey
Speaker 5: can probably go to a restaurant. Not when he's with
Speaker 5: Taylor Swift, he can't. Like he can't go to a story,
Speaker 5: can't go.
Speaker 1: To the movies. I totally agree with you. That's a
Speaker 1: different level.
Speaker 6: If you're dating Tylor Swift, why would you even want
Speaker 6: to just you've got Taylor Swift?
Speaker 1: You just Netflix and chill. Yeah, Paul, what that? I
Speaker 1: don't know why you have to say that.
Speaker 5: You don't even know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Did I say it bad? Mark? And I'm going to
Speaker 1: say Cheshire as opposed to Cheshire?
Speaker 6: Am I right on that?
Speaker 1: Mark in Cheshire, England. Yeah, Cheshire, Cheshire? Okay, yeah good enough.
Speaker 9: Hey listen Netflix and Chill with Sailors sounds great to me.
Speaker 18: Listen.
Speaker 6: I was going to caught Ay.
Speaker 9: I started the game and I was talking to Fred
Speaker 9: on curse Words, and I started the game thinking, oh,
Speaker 9: we've cracked this. You know, Max was throwing the ball around,
Speaker 9: He's trying to get everyone involved. And then I realized
Speaker 9: that he's getting them involved, but they're not making a play.
Speaker 9: All he's doing is throwing it to them. And then
Speaker 9: we've got no yak or anything like that going on.
Speaker 9: And the second half, man, it was just a collapse.
Speaker 9: It was awful, and it's so frustrating when you watch it.
Speaker 9: And you know where we've said before on the past
Speaker 9: couple of games where we've had moral victory, is there
Speaker 9: such a thing as, sorry, a moral loss. Is there
Speaker 9: such a thing as like a moral victory? I think
Speaker 9: that's what we got. I mean, I don't know where
Speaker 9: we go from here. You know, a block in tight
Speaker 9: end is the only person who actually made any plays
Speaker 9: and feb that's great, but that's not going to help us.
Speaker 9: Juju as atrocious. We've got nobody out there. I just
Speaker 9: don't know what what to say. Guys, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 9: don't know what your thoughts.
Speaker 12: Are on it.
Speaker 5: I want to ask you one question about Cheshire. This
Speaker 5: is a county in England, Cheshire.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a county just south of Manchester.
Speaker 1: Is is Liverpool near you?
Speaker 6: I thought the same thing.
Speaker 9: Yeah, about forty miles away from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I think you have a bit of a Liverpool accent,
Speaker 5: or maybe Liverpool has a bit.
Speaker 1: Of a Cheshire accent wherever it is.
Speaker 6: I just I heard that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, Cheshire and Liverpool border each other around about
Speaker 9: Warrington area is about the border.
Speaker 5: So excellent, Okay, all right, Mark, thanks for the call.
Speaker 1: Where you appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Sounded like John Lennon.
Speaker 5: All right, No, I think what Mark brought up is
Speaker 5: something I saw on another chain and another thread, like
Speaker 5: moral victories. I'm not going to give them a moral
Speaker 5: loss by no means. But if you want to just
Speaker 5: feel okay with the win and leave it there, I'm
Speaker 5: okay with you feeling that way. There's not a lot
Speaker 5: else to take out of this guy.
Speaker 1: I don't do the moral win, and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do the moral loss either. I would say that
Speaker 1: that's as sort of uninspired as you could feel after
Speaker 1: a win, Like, I mean, it's better to win, I
Speaker 1: said before the game, and I maintained the same stance
Speaker 1: after the game. They just needed to go down there
Speaker 1: and find a way to get a win. A loss
Speaker 1: was going to end the season. I think at zero
Speaker 1: and three it would have been over. Now I think
Speaker 1: at least you have something in the win column, and
Speaker 1: now you get ready for a Cardinals team, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, just watching early going here, they're looking utter
Speaker 1: disarray and disinterested in playing. So you know, who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe they're you know, they're feeling themselves, you know, with
Speaker 1: the way they played the first couple of weeks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see how it unfolds. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: get anybody that wants to say, well, that felt like
Speaker 1: a loss. Sure, if you wanted to say it felt
Speaker 1: like a loss, fine, But I mean it was a
Speaker 1: win and that's all that matters.
Speaker 6: I mean, it did feel a lot like one of
Speaker 6: last year's games. I you know, just like, you know,
Speaker 6: a little couple positives for Mac, which I liked some
Speaker 6: of the third down throws he made first possession, third
Speaker 6: and six to get SICKI for eighteen third and six
Speaker 6: to Born, third and five to Pop Douglas, third and
Speaker 6: three to Juju got one there, third and eight to
Speaker 6: eighty five. I mean he got you know, he had
Speaker 6: some throws in this game. But overall I just left
Speaker 6: feeling like we didn't really take a step forward in
Speaker 6: any way today. We kind of grinded it out like
Speaker 6: like that we usually do, but there wasn't a lot
Speaker 6: to say, hey, here's an element we can continue to
Speaker 6: build on. It just it feels like they're trying to
Speaker 6: scrape things out. And again, it just went so sideways
Speaker 6: at the end where it was just unable. Like if
Speaker 6: they could have just closed the game out with a
Speaker 6: first down, I would have said, hey, we can take
Speaker 6: the Faroh Brown and the fact they closed the game out,
Speaker 6: but you're left with just the Faroh Brown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought, And I was, you know, a little
Speaker 1: critical in the pregame show of the offense in general.
Speaker 1: I still maintain that I think the offense is still very,
Speaker 1: very average, but I was critical of Bill O'Brien and
Speaker 1: you know, some of the differences and some of those
Speaker 1: third down throws that Mike just talked about. According to
Speaker 1: Tony Romo. We're kind of subjected to the TV. Some
Speaker 1: of them were tremendous route concepts that created rubs, and
Speaker 1: I think Kasiki got open on one early. I think
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker had a third and fifteen that they said,
Speaker 1: what a great route rub concept they ran to get
Speaker 1: him wide open on the sideline there. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to give Bill O'Brien and his guys a little bit
Speaker 1: of a pat on the back for some of those
Speaker 1: because there was some big plays that didn't always matter
Speaker 1: of fact, it never resulted in points. But I also
Speaker 1: think that the touchdown put them in you know that
Speaker 1: they they got them to blow a coverage and you know,
Speaker 1: Sauce like they were like, either Sauce or Whitehead made
Speaker 1: a mistake. Sauce is covering Hunter Henry like I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty sure he's covering the outside guy, and he that's
Speaker 1: the guy he was closest to, So I don't see
Speaker 1: why he would have gone down the field with the
Speaker 1: inside guy. But whatever it was, all it took was
Speaker 1: one play and they made it. We'll stay geographically close
Speaker 1: to Cheshire, will go to Paul in Glasgow who emailed
Speaker 1: in an opportunity to get your season going, however, hampered
Speaker 1: by strange decision to be extremely cautious and burning clock
Speaker 1: the majority of the second half when there's only ten
Speaker 1: points in it. Bill shouldn't hate the Jets their inability
Speaker 1: to take advantage of Pat's offense, roster mismanagement keeping the
Speaker 1: Wolves from the door. On a positive, Pepper's quietly becoming
Speaker 1: one of the bright lights on this team.
Speaker 6: Loved the show. Paul and glasgowns Offi's mind.
Speaker 5: Paul email back a photo of you doing a little
Speaker 5: art over your chest, and that will infuriate it.
Speaker 6: I don't know. Just hopefully nobody clips that that shot
Speaker 6: that was just there of Paul coming.
Speaker 1: Up from under the table. You guys lost in the UK.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm so annoyed by the win.
Speaker 5: It's like they shut down any semblance of trying to
Speaker 5: score because they didn't think the Jets could score.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that, yes, that's two. It technically worked, but
Speaker 1: only just do you think that they were conservative in
Speaker 1: the second half, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I mean initially they really know.
Speaker 1: I don't think they were.
Speaker 6: I felt like they were throwing the ball on those
Speaker 6: last possessions. They were spread I thought they threw it
Speaker 6: too much. Yeah, I mean, but but you know, by
Speaker 6: the same token, I just didn't think they could get
Speaker 6: really much going with Stevenson.
Speaker 1: This was a game that, in my view, and I
Speaker 1: said this at some point during the game, if they
Speaker 1: do not turn it over and they just punt after
Speaker 1: every possession, they can't lose this game. Yet, third and
Speaker 1: fifteen from their own ten, they're throwing sixteen yard outs
Speaker 1: to Devonte Parker, Like, that's the only way the Jets
Speaker 1: could have won the game if one of those is offline,
Speaker 1: you know. And to Max credit, he did not throw
Speaker 1: any interceptions today. But I don't think they were overly conservative.
Speaker 1: They were ineffective. There's a difference.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna have to play the side of positivity
Speaker 5: here today. This unbelievable Patriot reality from ephrin in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: They only had seventeen first outs.
Speaker 5: The Patriot fans can count on death taxes and beating
Speaker 5: the Jets. This was not an impressive victory. The Patriots
Speaker 5: should petition the league that they only be they should
Speaker 5: only be obligated to play the Zach Wilson Jets. It's
Speaker 5: just people that are completely I understand you being unimpressed
Speaker 5: with the product. But I don't know that you have
Speaker 5: the luxury of starting this game a fan of an
Speaker 5: zero to two team and not being happy with the win.
Speaker 6: No, but that's but it's you're you're in a different
Speaker 6: place now. I think it's still kind of jarring to
Speaker 6: people to be, you know, excited about a you know,
Speaker 6: a fifteen point scoring outing.
Speaker 1: And it's I don't know anybody really that predicted much
Speaker 1: different than what you saw. Like we all talked about
Speaker 1: it was going to be a trip to the dentist.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a low scoring game, and someone
Speaker 1: will make a mistake or whatever. Now instead of a
Speaker 1: turnover mistake, today, the mistake was in coverage to give
Speaker 1: them a free whatever it was, how many yards it
Speaker 1: was the touchdown? Fifty eight fifty eight? Yeah, they gave
Speaker 1: him a free sixty yard touchdown. That's the mistake, the
Speaker 1: one mistake in the game, the one egregious mistake in
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 10: That was it.
Speaker 1: That was the difference. Yeah, Like I think that's where
Speaker 1: a lot of people felt like this game would be
Speaker 1: seventeen thirteen, thirteen ten. How many thirteen ten predictions did
Speaker 1: you write down already in the pregame, it's like three
Speaker 1: or four guys.
Speaker 5: They were called in, Yeah there were well our Zach
Speaker 5: Zach Blatt.
Speaker 1: He picked thirteen ten jets and a couple of guys
Speaker 1: called in with thirteen ten predictions, and then the game
Speaker 1: goes thirteen ten and everybody's like, this is disgusting, And
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not listening. I'm not thrilled with
Speaker 1: the game. I'm not trying to be the contrarian and
Speaker 1: say I was really excited about that win. But that's
Speaker 1: what everybody thought it was going to be going in.
Speaker 6: Now you're right, And I think it's just jarring too
Speaker 6: with the the quality of the product. I mean, you know,
Speaker 6: it's just like sometimes I think like that's even more
Speaker 6: of an indictment when people are just like the Pacers
Speaker 6: are boring, like there's nothing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: there's just nothing going on, Like there's one touchdown?
Speaker 1: Can we say that the Chants have a pretty good defense,
Speaker 1: Like to go on the field as many times as
Speaker 1: they did with no hope today and still come up
Speaker 1: with a stop is not easy.
Speaker 6: And every time the offense takes the field, you feel
Speaker 6: like more hope is being sucked away. From you because
Speaker 6: of their performance.
Speaker 1: You know, every possession was ending with four guys from
Speaker 1: the Jets offense talking on the sideline, you know, fights
Speaker 1: being broken up, a parent trying to like, you know,
Speaker 1: get something to you know, through to some guy.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: The defense to go out there and just force punt
Speaker 1: after punt after punt the way they did, that's a
Speaker 1: good defense. Yeah, that's a good defense. I'm not taking
Speaker 1: anything away from New York today.
Speaker 5: Brandon in or Brandon Bromdon Grooms says, why don't we
Speaker 5: see more play action, especially when we get the run
Speaker 5: game going like we did today with Zeke and Ramandre.
Speaker 1: Seems that it didn't really have a great running game today,
Speaker 1: but you did do some play action today. H Yeah.
Speaker 5: And it seems like Mac Excel's a play action we
Speaker 5: just never see it. I appreciate the shots downfield and
Speaker 5: also wonder why we don't see more dink and dunk
Speaker 5: to get the chains moving.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: For me, that's one of those things I'm not really
Speaker 6: charting and really clocking during the game, you know, something
Speaker 6: to look at. But I mean, I know Evan's been
Speaker 6: all over that. But we'll see. They did run down
Speaker 6: some of it today, I don't know how much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a couple I mentioned it to you
Speaker 1: on one of them. I was like, what what what
Speaker 1: was he under center? There was that a little play
Speaker 1: action and they did you know, they they did try
Speaker 1: some different things. Wow. As Dallas continues to go backwards
Speaker 1: down nine to nothing in the early going to the
Speaker 1: Cardinals telling you kind of pols today, cuboo. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think TJ has Dallas fire Bill Belichick. This
Speaker 1: is from Eric.
Speaker 5: We need to fire Bill. His refusal to help the
Speaker 5: offense is pathetic. Screw Gonzo and everyone raving about him.
Speaker 5: We need weapons and Bill missed every step of the
Speaker 5: way since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: All right, so I'm gonna give another perspective that I'm
Speaker 1: probably gonna get made fun of. They also got a
Speaker 1: little unlucky today at the end of the first half.
Speaker 1: Now I think it probably was a It would have
Speaker 1: only been three points, but they should have gotten a pass.
Speaker 1: In appearance on to Mario Douglas, I refuse to use
Speaker 1: nicknames of grown men that I don't that I don't know,
Speaker 1: but that's that's passing apference right there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I think it's Michael Carter. He couldn't hit him right there,
Speaker 1: like the grab. The grab I can I can do.
Speaker 1: I'm okay with because that's just kind of that's kind
Speaker 1: of hand fighting hand fighting hand But right here he
Speaker 1: hits him before the ball arrives. Right there, he's hitting
Speaker 1: him before the ball arrived. That's pass in afference to me.
Speaker 1: Now I tend to bash the Rooks. Yeah, I tend
Speaker 1: to bash the rest Well. Bill was arguing about the
Speaker 1: Marte mop Will play last week that got fined like
Speaker 1: six grand. But this is past interference and I don't
Speaker 1: think they would have scored a touchdown because of the
Speaker 1: amount of time left, but they would have had a shot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would have had to play in the end zone
Speaker 1: from like inside the ten. And if it doesn't get it,
Speaker 1: it's a chip shot field goal now instead of whatever
Speaker 1: it was, fifty seven yard or that's a big difference.
Speaker 1: So I do think there was a little bad luck
Speaker 1: involved on that. They probably should have gotten three more points.
Speaker 6: It is pretty funny little Chad Ryland. All his field
Speaker 6: goals are like right at midfield, like he doesn't get anything.
Speaker 1: El gety forty eight, forty nine, fifty one, fifty seven it's.
Speaker 6: No easy ones, buddy.
Speaker 5: Now we can go back to the phones. Had a
Speaker 5: little bit of a hiccup there, but we're back. Devon, Yeah, Devon, No,
Speaker 5: no different, Devon.
Speaker 1: He's in Connecticut.
Speaker 6: Okay, s already in Connecticut.
Speaker 1: Hello, Devon, what's going on? Okay? Are they driving?
Speaker 6: Congrats on your baby?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Devon? Go ahead?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 12: How you doing?
Speaker 19: Brother?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 12: No, there's a lot take away from this game. We
Speaker 12: you know, we got the win, which is great, of course.
Speaker 12: I like the way our defense looks. We looked pretty solid.
Speaker 16: You know.
Speaker 12: Last week we had some trouble, but we we stopped
Speaker 12: Tyreek and and and we shut down Watt a little bit.
Speaker 12: You know, that gave us the run. But this week
Speaker 12: we put him in the box and we played the run.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 12: I feel like we did good overall.
Speaker 16: There's some things we need to work on.
Speaker 12: I feel like we need a new number. We need
Speaker 12: a solid number, one live recess. You know, that's one
Speaker 12: thing we don't have. I feel like when we when
Speaker 12: we get down or we're getting situations where we need
Speaker 12: to take a shot, there's no solid by that we
Speaker 12: can go see that's to play. I think we need
Speaker 12: that that'll make a huge difference. I feel like your
Speaker 12: bro played great to pay JUDI has a bit of
Speaker 12: a tough game. He's gonna go back there, I think
Speaker 12: packing he would, you know, he got packed in side usually,
Speaker 12: so you know, we had a tough game. But overall,
Speaker 12: I like I like Christian. I like Christian Gonzalez. I
Speaker 12: noticed he plays a lot of boundary corner last that's
Speaker 12: come up in a lot of one on once but
Speaker 12: usually does pretty well. He might get burned a couple
Speaker 12: of times with a rugie, you know. For overall, I
Speaker 12: feel like we did well. We played two good teams
Speaker 12: to start the season. I didn't expect to win those games.
Speaker 12: You know, right now, we're not We're not built to
Speaker 12: win a championship. We can't make the playoffs. I feel
Speaker 12: like we just need a little bit more, little help
Speaker 12: arm my offensive line. Even though we did all right today.
Speaker 12: Better we did well on defense.
Speaker 5: Yep, all right, appreciated, thanks Devon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought the defense was outstanding.
Speaker 5: I mean, the call on you again, the call for
Speaker 5: a number one wide receiver, which has been going on
Speaker 5: for a while, is not going to stop until you
Speaker 5: have somebody who looks like a legitimate number one wide
Speaker 5: receiver and until somebody evolves and just takes it even
Speaker 5: by default, no one's even taking it by default.
Speaker 1: No, No, their receivers weren't good today. I don't think
Speaker 1: they created a lot of separation during the course of
Speaker 1: the day. I just didn't the offense looked disjointed. I
Speaker 1: thought there were times where they made plays and Mike
Speaker 1: rattled off a number of conversions they had. They were
Speaker 1: about fifty percent on third down, so it wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was a you know, a train wreck on offense,
Speaker 1: but they just never seemed to consistently string plays together.
Speaker 1: They had a nice third and fifteen like the one
Speaker 1: we were talking about to Parker, and then it's three
Speaker 1: out in parts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the you know, when we got into the show
Speaker 6: on Tuesday, you know, my thing was after a day
Speaker 6: of reflection upon the game, offensive line and running game,
Speaker 6: you know, like, all right, I don't know, there's all
Speaker 6: kinds of personnel issues that we need, guys, but let's
Speaker 6: just start with the protection and try to get the
Speaker 6: run game going. And he came out of this game.
Speaker 6: I don't think they allowed a sack. No, they run
Speaker 6: for one hundred and forty yards. I know it was offense.
Speaker 6: It wasn't today super efficient, but I felt like they
Speaker 6: ran the ball the best that they've run it in
Speaker 6: the three games. So you know, they kind of hit
Speaker 6: the two things I wanted, and it's still kind of
Speaker 6: was similarly productive. So that's what's a little bit disheartening,
Speaker 6: is that they fixed the two main things that I
Speaker 6: would have said coming in are the biggest problems, Like
Speaker 6: you got to get the pass protection right a great point.
Speaker 6: You got to get some running game going fifteen point
Speaker 6: thirteen point.
Speaker 1: But this is but this is what I'm like, I've
Speaker 1: been getting at. It's been like, you know, well if
Speaker 1: you can run the ball and you can protect mac, okay,
Speaker 1: well you did those things and you're off and your
Speaker 1: passing production went down today. Yep, So now what's the excuse, right,
Speaker 1: you know, their offense and I'm not blaming anyone, Okay,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. The offense is limited and today,
Speaker 1: you know, probably wasn't a great day to throw the
Speaker 1: ball with all the rain, all the slipping. There was
Speaker 1: a lot ton of guys slipping early in the game.
Speaker 1: You know, Remandre drops an easy one in the flat
Speaker 1: that probably is going to be a first down. I
Speaker 1: got to think that's at least partly due to the conditions.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's completing about fifty percent of his
Speaker 1: throw out fifty one percent. I mean, that's not very good.
Speaker 1: And again you take out that, you take out the
Speaker 1: fifty eight yard touchdows different which had nothing to do.
Speaker 1: You know, it was blown coverage was wide open. They
Speaker 1: didn't really do anything else get to the red zone
Speaker 1: now they were able to. They were able to rack
Speaker 1: up forty carries, which is good, and you know, three
Speaker 1: point nine to carry for forty carries isn't bad. But
Speaker 1: I just I felt like they ran the ball well
Speaker 1: enough today. They protected the passer well enough today, but
Speaker 1: they didn't separate well enough. Maybe. How many trips to
Speaker 1: the red zone for the Patriots I believe none.
Speaker 6: I don't think zero.
Speaker 1: I don't think they ever had possession inside the.
Speaker 6: Twentieth They just had one. I think that was that
Speaker 6: was it. I mean, it was like watching uh, it's
Speaker 6: like watching Sharon in Westboro a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 6: Like it's just the whole game is in between the thirties,
Speaker 6: like no one is able to move the ball, punk punt, punt, punt.
Speaker 5: Wow, all right, Anthony and Columbus. What's happened in Anthony?
Speaker 20: Hi guys, good afternoon.
Speaker 6: Hello.
Speaker 21: I wonder.
Speaker 16: I just think of it.
Speaker 20: I don't get to see them very often because I
Speaker 20: live where I live, and I saw the first game.
Speaker 20: I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, the first game
Speaker 20: was on television here, and so yeah, this offense is yeah,
Speaker 20: move the ball like up behind, and you know, we
Speaker 20: all know what happened the first game.
Speaker 1: I would say the first game was the best. The
Speaker 1: offense moved the ball. Out of the three, I agree
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 20: Yeah, there's so much in this league that is dependent
Speaker 20: on the quarterback. You know, there are you know, six
Speaker 20: or seven teams that have a quarterback that's capable of
Speaker 20: winning a Super Bowl. It seems like you have to
Speaker 20: go all the way back to the what was it,
Speaker 20: the the one or two raven to win a Super
Speaker 20: Bowl with a middling quarterback. You know, but okay, there
Speaker 20: if you look at other teams, like the Dolphins scored
Speaker 20: seventy points today. The Dolphins were terrible for a long time.
Speaker 20: Kansas City was terrible for a long time, and now
Speaker 20: they've become what they've become. I wonder what you think about, like,
Speaker 20: what's the we're spoiled by twenty years of you know,
Speaker 20: unprecedented success, Like what do you when do you when
Speaker 20: do you think this team will be? I mean, never
Speaker 20: mind super Bowl contender, playoff games.
Speaker 1: Well, they're they're a playoff contender now. They could make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They were a game away from the playoffs
Speaker 1: last year. They could make the playoffs. The quarterback thing,
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying.
Speaker 5: And no one is putting mac Jones in any category
Speaker 5: other than the one that he's in.
Speaker 1: So that's fine. But to say that you need to have.
Speaker 5: One of these handful of guys too, But can we
Speaker 5: can we expand it to make it to the super Bowl?
Speaker 5: And if you do that, you open things up and
Speaker 5: you actually start to accept a lot of different possibilities.
Speaker 5: Now you can say whatever you want about Matt Ryan
Speaker 5: and I'll think, you know, unable to close it out,
Speaker 5: But they should have won that super Bowl and we're
Speaker 5: talking about Matt Ryan. You can get to the super Bowl.
Speaker 5: I'm a Matthew Stafford guy, and I by no means
Speaker 5: think that he is an elite quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 5: He's very good, but they what you know, matt Matt
Speaker 5: Stafford has a super Bowl win. He did, he did
Speaker 5: more than just make it there, So you don't.
Speaker 1: Need to have well if you don't have I think
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is really good. He's real. I know you
Speaker 1: you have you know the Lions?
Speaker 5: Is he in the is when when guys mentioned there
Speaker 5: is he? Mahomes no, No, is he is?
Speaker 14: He?
Speaker 5: He's top ten though, Okay, so top third you know
Speaker 5: it's it goes beyond just five or six guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right. I think that's what he's looking for,
Speaker 1: is a top third guy. Well, yeah, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: going off of what he said.
Speaker 5: It seems like you want to have one of those
Speaker 5: first mentioned players. And if you don't have one of
Speaker 5: those guys, you might as well count yourself.
Speaker 6: Out and can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not there yet.
Speaker 5: I think I think you need to expand it out
Speaker 5: a little bit, especially in a season like this where
Speaker 5: there's there's parody.
Speaker 1: I think to be a title contender, you might need
Speaker 1: one of those guys. But you can be a solid
Speaker 1: playoff team with a top third guy.
Speaker 6: But like, let's be honest, though, like we alway used
Speaker 6: to make fun of those teams that are like, you know,
Speaker 6: and now the sixth and seventh, you know, Seeds that yeah,
Speaker 6: there's no real chance that though, like, yeah, they're playoff teams,
Speaker 6: but everybody knows the bottom two teams probably in the
Speaker 6: conference are going to get smoked in that first round
Speaker 6: and aren't real contenders. Like what people really want is
Speaker 6: to be in the conversation with the good teams and
Speaker 6: to think, like when we play Buffalo, when we play
Speaker 6: Kansas City, when we play Miami, that we're going to
Speaker 6: have a real chance to win. And I mean, as
Speaker 6: close as last week's game kind of looked on the scoreboard,
Speaker 6: I just I still don't think that they're a team
Speaker 6: that is in that echelon. And yes they're flirting with playoffs,
Speaker 6: you know, making the playoffs, but it's it's still I
Speaker 6: still think they got a ways to go before they're
Speaker 6: really one of those teams that's that's actually going to
Speaker 6: make noise in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Let's go to curtin Delaware. Hello, Kurt, thanks for joining
Speaker 5: us on this episode of the Patriots Post Game Show
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Speaker 1: What do you got for us?
Speaker 15: Hey, guys, Hi, I just wanted to comment on the
Speaker 15: Mario Douglas. It was good seeing him out there playing
Speaker 15: him because he wasn't sitting in a Bill Belichick doghouse.
Speaker 15: I just wanted to kind of comment on something that
Speaker 15: I think it could have been either Paul or Fredson
Speaker 15: during the week that maybe maybe it's something that you know,
Speaker 15: after he got benched, you know, from fumbling last week.
Speaker 15: Maybe it's something that the coaching staff sees that he's
Speaker 15: been doing in practice. Maybe he's dropping a ball and
Speaker 15: wobbling it and they're just kind of not really you know,
Speaker 15: they're not really confident, and you know, when they see
Speaker 15: him doing he's a rookie, so they kind of binge
Speaker 15: him for that reason. So you know, seeing him kind
Speaker 15: of bobble that first nap, even when he came back
Speaker 15: in the game, he kind of ran right into a defender.
Speaker 15: He just kind of didn't look right. So maybe that's
Speaker 15: like the coaching staff is kind of defense, like, hey,
Speaker 15: you know what he's not he's making little small mistakes
Speaker 15: and I kind of give him a pass for last
Speaker 15: week if that's the case.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I made that, Yeah, I did make that point
Speaker 1: during the week, and I don't know, but I was
Speaker 1: willing to say, you know, I'll give Bill the benefit
Speaker 1: of doubt. Maybe he's shown some bad habits with ball
Speaker 1: security during the course of practice, and maybe that, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's factoring in. But I would just say I
Speaker 1: thought there was some weirdness today to his usage. He
Speaker 1: bobbles the first punt, yeah, and then Pepper's returns at
Speaker 1: least the next two. Then he's back out there. So
Speaker 1: and the one that really got me was that there
Speaker 1: was a second down on the last drive where they're
Speaker 1: trying to get a first down and they run a
Speaker 1: little end around to him. They flipped the ball to him.
Speaker 1: So now we're real concerned about this guy's ball security.
Speaker 1: We're just flipping the ball to him with the game
Speaker 1: on the line, where if it's a mishandle it could
Speaker 1: potentially lead to a disaster. And the other thing on
Speaker 1: the punt return where he ran right into the guy,
Speaker 1: I would argue, like, are you drilling this so much
Speaker 1: into his head now that you've you.
Speaker 6: Know, it's like the just thinking it.
Speaker 1: It's like the Justin Fields thing where he's talking about
Speaker 1: I'm not playing anymore. Yeah, I'm just listening to the
Speaker 1: coaching and I know, everybody took that as a shot.
Speaker 1: I don't really think Justin Fields meant that as a
Speaker 1: shot at his coaches. But I think sometimes when you
Speaker 1: stop playing on instinct in your ability, you think too
Speaker 1: much and you're thinking about, Okay, I got to do this,
Speaker 1: I got to do that, I gotta do this. But
Speaker 1: like that one, like he just took and we just
Speaker 1: showed the replay here boom. Mean, that's like you just
Speaker 1: wonder if he's just so concerned about holding onto the
Speaker 1: ball and not putting it on the ground. And obviously
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. Bill always says it, you know,
Speaker 1: the most important part of every play is that you
Speaker 1: need to end the end the play with the ball.
Speaker 5: By the way, a report from Met Life, somebody walking
Speaker 5: past the Jets locker room could hear the players screaming.
Speaker 6: At each other.
Speaker 5: So the uh, the inner term this is, this is
Speaker 5: Patriots fan stuff.
Speaker 1: There's two things, two things that are gonna happen. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna predict the Patriots broke another team, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that Zach Wilson hasn't completed the pass in
Speaker 1: three years in the league years. Okay, yeah, that that's
Speaker 1: gonna be one thing they broken up, they broke another team,
Speaker 1: and the other thing is gonna be what do you
Speaker 1: think of the Patriots defense? Nah, wyam, you got seventy
Speaker 1: this week? I think the same. I think they played
Speaker 1: lousy on defense last week. I think the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a difference between being at home and your home
Speaker 1: opener and everything is rolling and you know, as opposed
Speaker 1: to you know, on the road for the second week
Speaker 1: in or after a west coast trip, coming up the
Speaker 1: coast and missing two field goals, so you didn't score thirty?
Speaker 1: Could it believe it?
Speaker 5: Could it be that the Miami offense played better today?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think the Miami offense is really good
Speaker 1: and I don't think the Patriots defense played really good
Speaker 1: last week. Did Miami have a good week offensively last week?
Speaker 11: I mean, just looking at some of the decisions they
Speaker 11: the decisions they made, if you if you compare it
Speaker 11: to if you compare it to seventy, yes, they had
Speaker 11: a bad like they had a bad week, but last
Speaker 11: last week they had over four hundred yards and if
Speaker 11: they don't miss two field goals, they score thirty points
Speaker 11: on the road.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I mean, I have a lot of
Speaker 6: respect for the Patriots defense. It's just it's just like
Speaker 6: crazy to me how they can be just so absolutely
Speaker 6: dominant against the bad team and they'll be okay against
Speaker 6: a good team, but they could like when could they
Speaker 6: be this dominant against like a Buffalo, Like, you know,
Speaker 6: could they shut out Buffalo in a game like that?
Speaker 22: And that like skews all the stats at the end
Speaker 22: of the year, So at the end of the year
Speaker 22: you look at the stats rather than this they only
Speaker 22: play seventeen games, but when yes, you know, when you
Speaker 22: shut a team or two out like that, like they
Speaker 22: excuse the numbers. It's I say it all the time.
Speaker 6: You know, Josh Allen puts up you know, forty in
Speaker 6: his sleep. But then like you go out and you
Speaker 6: play Jacksonville a coupany with nobody and it's like sixty
Speaker 6: to nothing, you know who.
Speaker 1: And I kept saying this and maybe you guys will disagree,
Speaker 1: and that's okay if you do. But like, did you
Speaker 1: feel last week that if there was ever a situation
Speaker 1: where like the Patriots took the lead or tied the game,
Speaker 1: would you ever have felt confident that Miami wasn't going
Speaker 1: to score? More like don't you think Miami could have
Speaker 1: scored more if they felt like they needed to score more?
Speaker 6: I mean, I think I have a lot of respect
Speaker 6: for I mean, but I just just the way the
Speaker 6: game unfolded. No, sure, because of what I just said.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, if it's the Jets, like right now,
Speaker 6: was I sweating a little bit today? Yeah, a little bit,
Speaker 6: but not but like I would have been with Miami.
Speaker 1: Where it was, and I never really thought the only
Speaker 1: way I would have been worried and it almost happened,
Speaker 1: you know, it almost happened was something fluky like that, right,
Speaker 1: and which is probably what the Jets need to They're
Speaker 1: throw up They're gonna throw one up there and someone's
Speaker 1: gonna be opened ball off of somebody and look they're terrible,
Speaker 1: They awfuled. You know, Zach will this is a really
Speaker 1: good hail Mary I will say, he gives this guys
Speaker 1: all time. Look everybody's down there by the time the
Speaker 1: ball comes down. He's got four white shirts right there.
Speaker 1: It was really good. Yeah, and it goes right to
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb. This was this was scary. Yeah, he got
Speaker 1: a hand on it.
Speaker 5: But as for as bad as they were, they did
Speaker 5: score ten and other teams around the league. Even today,
Speaker 5: Titans were held to three, Falcons were held to six.
Speaker 5: Those are bad teams. To the commanders. They were held
Speaker 5: to three. So before you go puffing your chest out
Speaker 5: too much, that Jets offense is come. You know, inept.
Speaker 5: They did score on you today twice. So you know,
Speaker 5: I'm not saying you have to shut out the other
Speaker 5: team in order to you know, praise your defense. We
Speaker 5: did praise the defense.
Speaker 1: I gave the defense all praise to I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't care who you played. You shot them down.
Speaker 6: You wouldn't have won this game. You completely shut them down.
Speaker 6: I mean you didn't really have much margin for error.
Speaker 6: I mean, for as dominant as they were. I mean,
Speaker 6: one more touchdown, different.
Speaker 1: Game exactly now.
Speaker 19: And that.
Speaker 1: Goes back to what the Patriots weren't able to do offense.
Speaker 1: If you play that game and it goes out and
Speaker 1: that that ricochet goes to Randall Cobb and he falls
Speaker 1: in the end zone, can you imagine what this would
Speaker 1: be like right now?
Speaker 6: And that's what I think everybody needs to remind themselves
Speaker 6: that are you know, like nonplus about the win. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 6: it's not great, but it could have been a lot,
Speaker 6: a lot worse.
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Speaker 5: Post Game Show. This episode presented by DraftKings. I got
Speaker 5: a bunch of emails coming in. Here we have uh
Speaker 5: Stefan near Frankfurt, Germany. A win is a win, but
Speaker 5: boy was that ugly. The old line is so bad.
Speaker 5: Patriots couldn't even get ten yards to run out the
Speaker 5: clock in that shape. The Pats won't win many games,
Speaker 5: even go so far as to say it would have
Speaker 5: been an ugly loss if Rogers had been the Jets QB. Today,
Speaker 5: mounting injuries under are a real concern. DEVI will run
Speaker 5: out of gas about mid season if the O doesn't
Speaker 5: start kicking and putting together longer scoring drives.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get h. I bet they're already on the
Speaker 6: phone with Carl Davis right now if that injury to
Speaker 6: Godshaw's is serious. But I mean, I don't think that
Speaker 6: that's an insignificant injury. They don't have a lot of
Speaker 6: depth there with experience. I mean, Aqualay is a you know,
Speaker 6: rotational piece. I think you know, they can kind of
Speaker 6: get by with that, but they don't have the play
Speaker 6: like Davon Godshaw. So hopefully he's not, you guys big enough.
Speaker 6: I just think he's getting old. I mean it's just
Speaker 6: you know, you kind of hanging on with the older guys,
Speaker 6: and I mean, I'm sure you can kind of stop
Speaker 6: gap it. I bet they bring Carl Davis back just
Speaker 6: to plug him in the middle. But you know, they
Speaker 6: can get by, But I do think that would be
Speaker 6: significant to lose him.
Speaker 5: Haven't been less excited after the first win, the win
Speaker 5: of the season in many many years. Without a busted
Speaker 5: coverage fifty eight yard touchdown, We're oh and three. This
Speaker 5: offense is abysmal. The lack of talent on offense is
Speaker 5: painfully apparent his team will be hard pressed to win
Speaker 5: five games with this offense. They barely were able to
Speaker 5: beat a quarterbackless Jets.
Speaker 1: That's from Matt in Virginia.
Speaker 6: It's weird. It's like, you know, the the spread it
Speaker 6: around thing. It's just there's not really an identity and
Speaker 6: this team it's just, you know, it's sporadic. Sometimes one
Speaker 6: guy's making a catch, sometimes they run, sometimes they don't.
Speaker 6: Sometimes it's Remandree, sometimes it's Elliott, you know. So I
Speaker 6: just I don't think that that's a good thing. You know,
Speaker 6: I'd like to see them starting to emerge of you know,
Speaker 6: who does Matt go to? Who does you know? We
Speaker 6: know we likes Hunter Henry. I think that's a given.
Speaker 6: But it's just sporadic with everyone.
Speaker 1: I remember we talked in week one and there was
Speaker 1: a lot of spreading the ball around, and I think A. J.
Speaker 1: Brown and DeVante Smith had seven catches each, and it
Speaker 1: was like, what would you rather have? And I said
Speaker 1: the seven catches each, Yes, And I would say the
Speaker 1: same thing last week with with Hill and Waddle. I'd
Speaker 1: rather have those two and then if I have to
Speaker 1: go to other guys to sprint, going in fine and
Speaker 1: exactly the way you said it is how I feel today.
Speaker 1: There's a million guys caught passes today, you know, and
Speaker 1: aside from the busted coverage that the guy just mentioned,
Speaker 1: none of it was really effective.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like Kasiki first third down of the game. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: big play by Kasiki. He's a big that's it. That's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, so like when you when you have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
Speaker 1: nine guys catch balls, but five of them caught one,
Speaker 1: Like to what end is the whole spreading and a
Speaker 1: round thing? They I think they need and I am
Speaker 1: stand they don't really have that alpha number one guy,
Speaker 1: but I think they need to find someone who's going
Speaker 1: to consistently emerge as someone that Mac can rely on.
Speaker 1: And I don't know who it is. I think it's
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry, which is you know, kind of speaks volumes.
Speaker 1: But I think Kendrick Boyne is too unreliable. I don't
Speaker 1: think that they know where he's going to be a
Speaker 1: lot now. I thought he had a reasonably productive day
Speaker 1: with four catches on five targets, but you know, again,
Speaker 1: forty six yards are not making any plays, you know,
Speaker 1: they're not the way to put it. They're not getting
Speaker 1: the ball downfield at all. Right, by the way.
Speaker 5: Mark in or excuse me, Nick and Carlyle England said
Speaker 5: Mark's accent wasn't a Liverpool scouse accent.
Speaker 1: Lads, that wasn't a Liverpool Well, what kind of accent
Speaker 1: was it? Nick?
Speaker 5: Don't leave us hanging like that. Also, horrible play calls,
Speaker 5: thought Mac did alright tonight? Yes, a few bad throws
Speaker 5: targeting players or just now with it.
Speaker 1: I hate to say it. Also some bad officiation tonight.
Speaker 1: That pass interpference on Douglas was an egregious miss. I think, no,
Speaker 1: I do, But I didn't really notice a whole lot
Speaker 1: of other bad official I thought, I think it was
Speaker 1: Cobb that took the dive, right, that was Cobb not Yea,
Speaker 1: I thought that was a dive by him. But you
Speaker 1: put two hands on him and push him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I put that one more on Miles.
Speaker 1: That was on Myles Bryant. But I think it's a dive,
Speaker 1: but it's savvy. I'm not sure that you're going to
Speaker 1: get too many too many refs that aren't going to
Speaker 1: call that based on kind of fall.
Speaker 6: He pushed me.
Speaker 1: What, Yeah, and Nick feel free to email us back.
Speaker 1: Let us know what that accent was. I mean, I know.
Speaker 5: Exactly well, he didn't sound like he was from London.
Speaker 1: That's my point. It wasn't a Cockney accent. It sounded
Speaker 1: more livid.
Speaker 6: Yeah. No, see, I was kind of getting like a
Speaker 6: Dana Carvey doing Paul McCartney, kind of you like that
Speaker 6: kind of impression.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we nailed it geographically. I'm like, where is Cheshire?
Speaker 5: You know, it's a county in Liverpool.
Speaker 6: I knew you were going with it. I knew ere
Speaker 6: where you were going.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so all right, but we're willing to learn. You know,
Speaker 5: educatus George in Illinois. He's got an Illinois accent. Go ahead, George,
Speaker 5: let's hear it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I apologize no accent for you guys, that's
Speaker 3: not my end.
Speaker 12: You know, we're you both just.
Speaker 3: Touched on it right away. With the sporadic points, six
Speaker 3: wide receivers, three tight ends. Juj who's not playing like
Speaker 3: an eleven million dollar receiver because Sticky's barely seen it.
Speaker 3: Zeeke up until today wasn't playing through his dash values.
Speaker 12: So I don't know if it's about getting that that
Speaker 12: Alpha has talked about hardy.
Speaker 3: As much as it is trying to develop the guys
Speaker 3: that we bring in and fitting them into the place scheme.
Speaker 3: I if this strength continues, and I say that because
Speaker 3: we know how volatile septembers are, I point more at
Speaker 3: that than anything else, the inability to develop guys on
Speaker 3: the offensive end and to fit them in. And we're
Speaker 3: starting to lose that a little bit.
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what, George, Your your plan is
Speaker 5: much more plausible because how many more examples do we
Speaker 5: need of players being available and just not either decide
Speaker 5: to not pursue them or they decide to go elsewhere. So, yeah,
Speaker 5: it is it is certainly makes sense to take your
Speaker 5: route and just develop the players that you have. Who
Speaker 5: would you try and who would you hone in on
Speaker 5: if if you really want to have a go to
Speaker 5: guy that's going to be a threat that offenses have
Speaker 5: to account for on every single play. Who do you
Speaker 5: sing single or double out? Give me, give me one
Speaker 5: or two players that I think are are best suited
Speaker 5: for for that type of coaching and that type of development.
Speaker 1: Who would they be? Anyone? Anyone?
Speaker 22: Oh?
Speaker 1: I thought you were talking with the caller. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: he's gone Oh, didn't you think he was talking to
Speaker 1: the college?
Speaker 5: No, okay, yeah, I don't want if you if you
Speaker 5: want to pick a guy and say, okay, we're going
Speaker 5: to turn you into the real receiver threat, well, I.
Speaker 6: Mean I just I go back to stupid Deebo Samuel
Speaker 6: because I just think he was everybody knew. Everybody knew
Speaker 6: he was a fit. He knew he was a fit.
Speaker 6: I mean he came here and you know, I just
Speaker 6: that's what's just you got away from what, you know,
Speaker 6: the kind of guys that were productive here. And I
Speaker 6: mean he's one of those versus dole guys you can
Speaker 6: move all around, do a bunch of different stuff with.
Speaker 6: I mean, a tough player, hard nos kind of guy.
Speaker 6: I mean he just when he was coming out, it's
Speaker 6: like this is this is their kind of guy that
Speaker 6: plays the game they want and they wanted to kill. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they you know, with what's on
Speaker 1: the roster. I think it's probably born as a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I think he's probably the most capable of turning in
Speaker 1: some big plays in Henry And I don't really know
Speaker 1: if that's enough to like really scare anyone.
Speaker 6: No, but and that's.
Speaker 1: Probably why they have to spread it around to you
Speaker 1: appoint Mike.
Speaker 6: And part of the disconcerting aspect of it is is
Speaker 6: that you just gave new money to Devonte Parker and
Speaker 6: Juju Smith Schuster, you know, like you just reinvested. I mean,
Speaker 6: not with Juju, you weren't you were initially investing, but
Speaker 6: you know, you reinvested with Parker. And I mean, I
Speaker 6: I don't think Parker is the number one, but I
Speaker 6: mean I do think he's okay. But they just, you know,
Speaker 6: they keep continuing to kind of double down. It seems
Speaker 6: like on what they what they believe, right right?
Speaker 5: All right, Todden Gardner Mass, Hello Todd, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 16: How are you doing good?
Speaker 17: Mike, take from this lip. Max did as as much
Speaker 17: as he possibly could to try to take the game
Speaker 17: on his shoulders and didn't have very much help. And
Speaker 17: I really I'm not Ramandre looked like he's just not
Speaker 17: got that vision or something's wrong. I don't know if
Speaker 17: he's hurt, and do do I don't even want him
Speaker 17: on the field anymore. I really think we're gonna have
Speaker 17: to start rolling with our younger guys and just hope
Speaker 17: that they can start developing because there's just too many,
Speaker 17: too many question marks. So that's kind of where I'm at.
Speaker 17: And like I said, I think Max played.
Speaker 14: The big game.
Speaker 17: Thanks K.
Speaker 1: A good game today, Like can he ever play a
Speaker 1: bad one?
Speaker 6: He always makes some plays. But you know, I think,
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time saying anybody really on offense today?
Speaker 1: Did he make a play today like Matt Jones make
Speaker 1: the box the bomb for the bomb for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's wide open, but that was it.
Speaker 1: Like he made a couple of third down throws, but
Speaker 1: to what ends? They don't lead to any drives? Like
Speaker 1: they don't they don't lead to any points in any way.
Speaker 1: I thought he had time to throw today. And you
Speaker 1: know I thought he stood in the pocket. Well I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought he took some hits after we threw and
Speaker 1: stood in the pocket with some hits too, right, Well,
Speaker 1: Sauce Goder says he might have hit him in the
Speaker 1: in the NATS. But again, I am with Mac Jones
Speaker 1: today exactly where I was the first two weeks. I'm
Speaker 1: right in the middle. I can point to six or
Speaker 1: seven things that I really liked today. And you rattled
Speaker 1: off some third down throws, Mike, and all those would
Speaker 1: be on my list, especially the one to Parker on
Speaker 1: third and fifteen. Perfect throw on the sideline, really nice,
Speaker 1: really nice execution. But I could point to to six
Speaker 1: or seven plays that I didn't like what I saw
Speaker 1: out of him today? You know, Yeah, Juju doesn't look right?
Speaker 1: How about the throws? Did those ever look right? You know?
Speaker 1: I mean how about the one down like down the
Speaker 1: numbers near the sideline to Bourne, where Bourne's on the inside,
Speaker 1: the throw goes outside. It's clearly just out of sink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything is out of out of it doesn't Nothing really
Speaker 1: looks right at given times. And I'm sorry. When you
Speaker 1: throw for two hundred yards and you complete fifty percent
Speaker 1: of your passes and score thirteen points, I don't know
Speaker 1: how you can say he did all he could today.
Speaker 6: Same story.
Speaker 5: Isaac is in Sweden spelled with two ease by Matt Lapan,
Speaker 5: Swede and hello Isaac, sweet and what's going on?
Speaker 14: Hi guys?
Speaker 21: Can you hear me?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 6: Sweden?
Speaker 21: First of all of a long time listeners to all
Speaker 21: of your shows, and I'll really enjoyed also to.
Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 21: Oh sorry, I'm a first on callers. I'm a little
Speaker 21: bit nervan.
Speaker 6: That's okay, that's taunting.
Speaker 21: I have a question. Is that all right? Yes, I'm
Speaker 21: cured to hear your pop on how they replaced mccorday.
Speaker 21: So far, I think Pepper's had a good game today,
Speaker 21: and as far as my untrained MFL I can see,
Speaker 21: I believe Dunder's taken a lot of cover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thanks Isaac. I think you got a good
Speaker 1: eye on both of those. I think it's been I
Speaker 1: think it's been pretty good. I think that what they've
Speaker 1: done is instead of going single high a lot, they've
Speaker 1: they've had multiple guys back, and I think they've rotated
Speaker 1: their deep crew with safeties and used a lot of
Speaker 1: different bodies.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and you've you've played some explosive wide
Speaker 6: receivers too, and they're you know, I mean, you saw
Speaker 6: one of those plays today Tyreek Hill had where he
Speaker 6: caught one and ran through everybody, and you know, So
Speaker 6: I think that that's been okay so far. You know what,
Speaker 6: we'll see how it how it continues. But they had
Speaker 6: good depth there, so I felt like they weren't like
Speaker 6: it wasn't a barren group and as everyone probably knows
Speaker 6: by now. I'm a Peppers fan, so I thought, you know,
Speaker 6: they had some people to I do. I do wonder though,
Speaker 6: if it's taken Dugger out of the box a little
Speaker 6: bit and we're kind of all on Peppers now because
Speaker 6: Peppers is getting more opportunities in the box to kind
Speaker 6: of make plays and meanwhile, Dougger's kind of the one
Speaker 6: stuck on the back end maybe a little bit.
Speaker 1: Both of them guys had seven tackles today. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that. I think that's the best part of
Speaker 1: the defense. The you know, the safety group in general.
Speaker 1: They have they have it in numbers, they have it
Speaker 1: in versatility, and those guys have played well I think
Speaker 1: for the most part.
Speaker 5: Uh, Johnny and Madtown said Johnny Paul. They were ultra conservative,
Speaker 5: treasonously conservative. Why are they doing deep stuff sideline throws?
Speaker 5: I thought Max strong Suit was the middle of the field,
Speaker 5: tight ends and close stuff to Douglas Born and Juju.
Speaker 1: Stopped for a second. You can continue the email on
Speaker 1: a second. Sure, deep stuff sideline is conservative. I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you what you want. But I'm asking, like, do
Speaker 1: you guys think like I said, If you guys think
Speaker 1: they were conservative, then I'll say maybe I misremember.
Speaker 6: No, I I mean I don't. I don't think you can.
Speaker 6: I don't think you can see. I mean, as bad
Speaker 6: as the offense is, it will be even worse if
Speaker 6: you were just trying to make every throw two yards.
Speaker 6: Like I'm at least glad they're trying to push some
Speaker 6: stuff down the field. I mean, it's fifty to fifty
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 1: Like I think, I don't think the deep throw on
Speaker 1: third down.
Speaker 6: They didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't get the penalty on Douglas. That's conservative at
Speaker 1: the end of the half. I mean, conservative is running
Speaker 1: the draw to make sure you get a field goal.
Speaker 1: They took a shot for a touchdown.
Speaker 6: I think goes back to your other thing that they weren't.
Speaker 6: I don't think they are being conservative, like I just.
Speaker 1: I thought I think they were too inconsistent. I thought
Speaker 1: they were guilty at times of being a little too
Speaker 1: risky because I really think the only way they could
Speaker 1: have lost today is turning the ball over. There were
Speaker 1: a couple of dish might have he threw into traffic
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Yeah, Now, to his credit, he
Speaker 1: didn't do that late, although he had on one little
Speaker 1: screen that floated and kind of bounced off a couple
Speaker 1: of guys hand Remember that one. Yeah, I think Michael
Speaker 1: Carr might have gotten his hands on it. Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like like I guess we'll just have
Speaker 1: to agree to disagree. I'm not like passionate about it
Speaker 1: or anything. But I thought that they I thought they
Speaker 1: threw the ball downfield. I thought they threw the ball
Speaker 1: more often than I would have given the state of
Speaker 1: that game. I think they could have given the Jets
Speaker 1: the ball ten more times and they wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: able to score thirteen points.
Speaker 5: Alan, Italy, we are awful. We are not going to
Speaker 5: get more than three wins this year.
Speaker 1: The tones strong to quite strong.
Speaker 5: The tone I'm kind of I'm kind of shocked. I'm
Speaker 5: bordering the shocked.
Speaker 1: We're a long way from awful in my opinion. But
Speaker 1: I get it. I know why people aren't happy, you know,
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 5: Let's talk to Brandon in California here on the Patriots
Speaker 5: Postgame Show. This episode presented by DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Hello Brondon, Hey.
Speaker 16: How's it going?
Speaker 14: Guys?
Speaker 16: Go ahead, So I have a few questions.
Speaker 27: The first one is about Keon White, like I've seen
Speaker 27: him blow up a play and then after that that
Speaker 27: was it for him. It seemed like he's I get
Speaker 27: on like the field too often. And the second one
Speaker 27: is I think with mac Jones always flopping, how you
Speaker 27: think that he doesn't get like the benefit of the
Speaker 27: doubt with these Cause that's it.
Speaker 6: I have to go back and look on ke On White.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: I do think maybe even kind of same thing with Jennings.
Speaker 6: Like early on in the game, they kind of were
Speaker 6: dividing things up, but as the game more on, it
Speaker 6: got more down to the nitty gritty than it was
Speaker 6: time to go with Uch and Jude on, especially if
Speaker 6: they had to pass.
Speaker 1: Yea they have to throw in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 25: But I.
Speaker 1: I haven't noticed White that much in the last two games.
Speaker 1: He was very noticeable in the first game.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't think he plays a tremendous amount of snaps.
Speaker 1: I think he's like maybe a twenty five percent kind
Speaker 1: of a guy, probably about But I noticed him a
Speaker 1: ton in the first game, and I didn't notice him
Speaker 1: as much last week. Today. I did notice the one
Speaker 1: play I think that he's talking a little early couple
Speaker 1: plays he had some like penetration to cause some disruption
Speaker 1: but as long as.
Speaker 6: He's you know, I mean, I'm not going to get
Speaker 6: too carried away with, you know, being outraged about that. Like,
Speaker 6: I think he needs a little bit of time, and
Speaker 6: I think that they've I mean, I like Jennings too.
Speaker 6: I'd like to see Jennings get more of an opportunity
Speaker 6: just to I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, can I say I think Jennings is a
Speaker 1: better player than Toby. I know they don't play the
Speaker 1: same position per se, but I don't know.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you on that.
Speaker 1: I think he moves better.
Speaker 6: He's got some savvy to him. He's getting around. He's
Speaker 6: getting around blockers now.
Speaker 5: Like El from Wisconsin said Hardy, I'll explain why people
Speaker 5: are unhappy with the win. This is just more the same.
Speaker 5: A middling team that plays coin flip games with other
Speaker 5: middling teams beats the bad teams and doesn't stand a
Speaker 5: chance versus the good ones. You might be okay with
Speaker 5: an eight and nine season every year, but the rest
Speaker 5: of us don't have to be.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: If you are a middling team and you are playing
Speaker 5: coin flip games with the middling teams, that's mine I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna disagree with that. What I would say is
Speaker 5: where I do have an issue is when you say
Speaker 5: you don't stand a chance versus the good ones. You
Speaker 5: had chances to beat the Eagles and the Dolphins, and
Speaker 5: I think those are two pretty good football teams.
Speaker 1: I agree they have both good teams.
Speaker 5: So I disagree with you on that one. And I'm
Speaker 5: not okay within eight and nine season. I'm just telling
Speaker 5: you this is this is something approaching a little more
Speaker 5: normal in the NFL. And I'm not going to sit
Speaker 5: here and say you can't understand what it's like to
Speaker 5: be a fan of a team. No, because you watch sports,
Speaker 5: you and you're a growth No. But everyone, even if
Speaker 5: you've been a lifelong Patriots fan and you're only thirty
Speaker 5: years old and you don't know anything other than winning,
Speaker 5: you still understand that most teams don't win at the
Speaker 5: clip that the Patriots did for twenty years.
Speaker 1: So you get it.
Speaker 5: I'm saying you need to make your piece with some
Speaker 5: five hundred ish seasons. How much patience and how much
Speaker 5: appetite the owner is going to have for that and
Speaker 5: what can be done to change it quickly?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's a ton that you could
Speaker 5: do to change it quickly.
Speaker 6: But this is reality, I mean, don't I don't mean
Speaker 6: this is a shot. I'm asking honestly as an example, but.
Speaker 1: Like this feels like a shot is coming on.
Speaker 6: You might feel that way. But when the Lions were
Speaker 6: kind of struggling, but you have Barry Sanders, like we're people,
Speaker 6: do people take some enjoyment at least out of Hey,
Speaker 6: we're not you know, we're not We're not one of
Speaker 6: the best teams in the NFL. But every week we
Speaker 6: get to watch one of the the best players in
Speaker 6: the NFL and in the history of the NFL do
Speaker 6: their thing.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 6: I just I wonder if there's also part of a
Speaker 6: struggle for Patriots fans in that there just isn't a
Speaker 6: whole lot of players to kind of tune in and
Speaker 6: get excited to watch play right now. Well, it was
Speaker 6: it's middling football with middling players.
Speaker 5: It was frustrating because you had, in my opinion, the
Speaker 5: you know, the most dynamic player to ever play the
Speaker 5: position in Barry Sanders, but you never had a coach
Speaker 5: and you never had.
Speaker 6: No consolation that you know, like that that hey like
Speaker 6: we stink, but today could be fun because he might
Speaker 6: do something historic and make twenty five guys miss on
Speaker 6: any single runners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't have much in the way of a quarterback.
Speaker 5: I won't say you never had a quarterback in those years,
Speaker 5: but pretty much it was a one man show. And
Speaker 5: then yeah, it was so painfully obvious that you had
Speaker 5: just one clown after another at head coach and no
Speaker 5: other help for them all offensively.
Speaker 1: So that was that was an issue.
Speaker 5: It's harder to identify with the Patriots. No one's calling
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick a clown, but I think what people are
Speaker 5: saying is maybe you know his system.
Speaker 6: Is clown adjacent.
Speaker 1: I don't know it. Is it unfair to.
Speaker 5: Say that after twenty two how long has Bill been
Speaker 5: here now? Since I means eighty four? Is it crazy
Speaker 5: to think that after you know, twenty three, twenty four years,
Speaker 5: maybe the system has kind of run its course. So
Speaker 5: here's where I go back to the pregame show when
Speaker 5: we had a caller say a week guilty of two
Speaker 5: high expectations, and the way I took that is I
Speaker 5: think we are, but the email just said, so we're
Speaker 5: coin flip games with middling teams, and I don't get it.
Speaker 5: I don't get what it's going to take. This is
Speaker 5: four years of being a middling team, like this is
Speaker 5: what you are, a mid team.
Speaker 1: This is the reality. I'm not telling you you should
Speaker 1: be doing handstands over the way this game unfolded. Today.
Speaker 1: You won a game because the other team's quarterback was
Speaker 1: simply had the inability to make average run of the
Speaker 1: mill plays throughout the course of the game. Okay, and
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you should be thrilled with that. But
Speaker 1: this is what I was talking about earlier when I
Speaker 1: said the Patriots are gonna play the Jets. Then in
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, they're gonna play the Saints, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna play the Raiders, and then they're gonna play
Speaker 1: a little while after that Washington in Indianapolis and the
Speaker 1: Giants in Pittsburgh and Denver, and all of those games,
Speaker 1: to me are today. They're all gonna be coin flips,
Speaker 1: and you won one of them today. So let's hope
Speaker 1: you win the next time you play a coin flip game.
Speaker 1: If you can win enough coin flips, then you'll have
Speaker 1: a chance to make the playoffs. You're gonna be hard
Speaker 1: pressed to beat the Dallases, the Kansas City's, the Buffaloes,
Speaker 1: you know, much like you were hard pressed to beat
Speaker 1: Miami and Philly because those teams have more time with you,
Speaker 1: and you got a break today. You got to play
Speaker 1: a team with a backup quarterback. You might get that
Speaker 1: same break in two weeks against the Saints. Derek Carr
Speaker 1: had to leave the game today and didn't come back.
Speaker 1: They were winning seventeen nothing when he got hurt. They
Speaker 1: ended up losing eighteen to seventeen. So those kinds of
Speaker 1: things happen all across the league. There's no need to
Speaker 1: be all pissed off about it when it happens for
Speaker 1: your team. That's what happens. You know, you get a
Speaker 1: break and you take advantage of it.
Speaker 6: So this is what happens.
Speaker 1: So I mean, does that make sense? I do think
Speaker 1: that Sometimes we look at it like, yeah, the expectations
Speaker 1: are too high. We're expecting to be the best team
Speaker 1: in the league for twenty five years. I want to
Speaker 1: be superior. Again, you're not. We're not better than some
Speaker 1: of these teams. We were better than the team today
Speaker 1: because Mac Jones is better than Zach Wilson and it's
Speaker 1: not close. You can complain about your quarterback all you want,
Speaker 1: but he is a lot better than the guy he
Speaker 1: played against today.
Speaker 5: Deshaun and Virginia. Hello, what's up to Sean?
Speaker 1: Hello guys once, Yeah, how y'all doing excellent? Thanks for calling.
Speaker 16: You're welcome. I think what the frustration is really building,
Speaker 16: that is and I want.
Speaker 17: To reiterate with what Paul said before, by even the bank,
Speaker 17: by the game being close.
Speaker 16: It was my point the entire time. The fact is
Speaker 16: that the offense doesn't come to join the party with
Speaker 16: the defense, and I think there's only amount of time
Speaker 16: the defense mounds some frustration over that, and I think that,
Speaker 16: like ever since coming into the season, always start when
Speaker 16: I talked to other pictures, fans and other people are
Speaker 16: different teams, fans or whatever. I thought him like, our
Speaker 16: teams need to go two ways. We could really plumb
Speaker 16: it or we could rise to the stars. Were bringing
Speaker 16: off the offense as confident enough to help the defense
Speaker 16: out because I believe we can play and beat these
Speaker 16: better teams as the offense was better.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's something to that, And Deshaun, thank you for
Speaker 5: the phone call. Phil Perry I think said something like
Speaker 5: that earlier in the week that the offense needs to
Speaker 5: show some fight, and it normally you only see it
Speaker 5: on defense, you know, and they kind of use that,
Speaker 5: you know, that the rallying cry. But I think the
Speaker 5: offense does need to show a little fight. As a
Speaker 5: matter of fact, another email Nick and Maine, He's like,
Speaker 5: where's the old lineman to put number fifty seven in
Speaker 5: the dirt? After mac Jones gets roughed up?
Speaker 1: And that's the play. I believe that mac Jones squeezed
Speaker 1: h maybe the grapes of sauce Gardner by the way,
Speaker 1: which I think might be why the Jets were so upset.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said, where's the old lineman to go after
Speaker 5: that guy? It's like it's going to be a fifteen
Speaker 5: yard or he said, you're punting anyway, I know, and usually.
Speaker 6: That's cold Stranger's department. He doesn't really have a problem
Speaker 6: with being a little extra business guy.
Speaker 1: But I thought there was a lot of bad on
Speaker 1: that play on both teams, Like just stop plays over
Speaker 1: the whistle's blowing. Stop Max, stop stop trying to push
Speaker 1: everybody off, you stop trying to keep running, and Jets
Speaker 1: stop stop tackling him. Like I didn't understand, like the
Speaker 1: whistle had blown way before that. Yeah, this was like
Speaker 1: this play right here. Yeah, they should have both gotten
Speaker 1: penalties on this play.
Speaker 6: If you ask me, where's where's Sauce? Let's get a
Speaker 6: can we get a ISO cam on a And by
Speaker 6: the way, I'm not right there right there? Well I no,
Speaker 6: so Sauce is not there right Oh he was walking
Speaker 6: over to.
Speaker 1: So maybe this isn't the play. He didn't specify what
Speaker 1: play it was, but they were mad on this play.
Speaker 1: I don't see Sauce, so it couldn't have been that one.
Speaker 1: I would just say, like, you can't take a fifteen
Speaker 1: yard penalty there. It's fourth down in less than the
Speaker 1: yard you want. If you want to go for it,
Speaker 1: you can go for it there right now. I think
Speaker 1: that Bill made the right call by punting, because, as
Speaker 1: I said, the only way you could lose this game
Speaker 1: is by turning the ball over, and that's turning it
Speaker 1: over on downs near midfield. That to me wouldn't have
Speaker 1: made a lot of sense.
Speaker 5: I want to grab one more call before we get
Speaker 5: to the coaching quarterback, because it's quarterback related, and I
Speaker 5: also think from an historical perspective, Paul might have something
Speaker 5: to say on this, Adam and Maine.
Speaker 18: Yes, Adam, Hey, guys, I just want to say, this
Speaker 18: really is the worst quarterback play that I have seen
Speaker 18: since Tony Easton. This is and I would rank Hugh
Speaker 18: Millen ahead of him.
Speaker 16: I think Scott.
Speaker 18: Zolvaks was a better quarterback. Uh, Hugh Millian at the
Speaker 18: time we would we would go eight and eight, but
Speaker 18: he had the benefit of no no defense. He was
Speaker 18: coming back from behind and we were winning thirty nine
Speaker 18: to thirty four.
Speaker 12: Sometimes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hum Millen was terrible like this, like Mac Jones
Speaker 1: better than hum by a by a like a landslide.
Speaker 18: This is, I mean, and we have a big problem.
Speaker 18: I haven't heard this mention yet, but these are the
Speaker 18: short swing passes. Anything out to a running back, he can't.
Speaker 16: He can't put it on the back.
Speaker 18: The only time he gets it to a running back
Speaker 18: is when he hands it to him.
Speaker 5: Oh, no, we've mentioned that. Ha'said it's been an issue
Speaker 5: with a short passes. He was a little loose with
Speaker 5: the ball today at some of those short throws.
Speaker 1: I agree it was it was. Some of them are
Speaker 1: kind of scary, but I mean, come on, Mac Jones
Speaker 1: is far better than those quarterbacks that they had in
Speaker 1: the in the nineties, you know, the hum Millain's, the
Speaker 1: Tommy Watson's couldn't play. I mean so, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: doesn't think he's better than back?
Speaker 6: I wonder did you ever ask a good question?
Speaker 1: Did you ever ask him?
Speaker 6: You don't?
Speaker 1: Like, I wouldn't pu him on the out on the air,
Speaker 1: although it might be funny, kind of like when you
Speaker 1: guys asked him who his favorite kid was he and
Speaker 1: he gave us some thought for Oh, yeah, he was.
Speaker 1: He was getting ready to funny, he was almost he
Speaker 1: almost answered it. Yeah, what are their names? Again? Which
Speaker 1: everyone is drinking.
Speaker 6: With me at the time.
Speaker 5: Wow, Hey, let's hear from the head coach. Uh, and
Speaker 5: then we will hear from the quarterback as well. Are
Speaker 5: we doing this again here for the head coach? Now,
Speaker 5: we're just gonna hear from Bill Belichick after today's fifteen
Speaker 5: to ten win over the Jets at Metlive Stadium.
Speaker 3: Here he is.
Speaker 28: God, it was a good uh, you know, a good
Speaker 28: win for us today down here. It's always tough and
Speaker 28: the Jets are, you know, a tough team. Do good job.
Speaker 28: Defense is really really good and you know, I had
Speaker 28: a good running game, I though, would play pretty god
Speaker 28: run defense against him, and and uh, you know, we're
Speaker 28: able to run the ball better than we have in
Speaker 28: the first couple of weeks. You know, in the end
Speaker 28: some you know, key plays in the in the fourth
Speaker 28: quarter that fortunately we were able to make a couple
Speaker 28: more than than they were. But you know, it's kind
Speaker 28: of been like this three weeks in oral fours, So
Speaker 28: good to good to come out on the you know,
Speaker 28: come out on the good end of it.
Speaker 3: Cool.
Speaker 1: How much is this a continued learning process for your
Speaker 1: group and for your team as as you get better
Speaker 1: and better?
Speaker 28: Yeah, well yeah, hopefully you know, we're started to have
Speaker 28: a little continuity here on the offensive line, so that
Speaker 28: was good. I think that definitely helped their running game.
Speaker 28: You know, coach of Brian did a good job mixing
Speaker 28: the you know play actions in there. You know, hit
Speaker 28: a big pass.
Speaker 3: On that.
Speaker 28: You know, I think probably the running game.
Speaker 12: Helped that a little bit.
Speaker 28: So yeah, the more we can you know, keep these
Speaker 28: guys working together and and improve our time in execution,
Speaker 28: better off, we're going to be good place to start.
Speaker 1: Have you seen from Parrell Brown? And how nice is that?
Speaker 6: As you mentioned it.
Speaker 16: It's just, yeah, the good job.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 28: He came in here, you know, the first week and
Speaker 28: played in the over and played every week. You know,
Speaker 28: it's good to have a you know, a guy that
Speaker 28: can do what he does and he's got some size
Speaker 28: again blocks you catch the ball a little bit.
Speaker 23: You know.
Speaker 28: It's a good compliment to Mike and and Hunter.
Speaker 29: Coach Chad Robins and Miki's dad.
Speaker 1: She got talk about today again.
Speaker 15: Sorry today.
Speaker 28: Yeah, you know, it's a tough, tough day to kick
Speaker 28: a bunch of long ones. You know, the weather wasn't great,
Speaker 28: but I thought he hit the ball pretty well. Timing
Speaker 28: on a couple of them could have been better. We
Speaker 28: need to have a little cleaner operation. But you know,
Speaker 28: I thought he showed a lot of mental toughness coming
Speaker 28: back and making that kick in the third quarter, you know,
Speaker 28: after the after the one at the half. That was
Speaker 28: just kind of a it's on a great operation, but
Speaker 28: it did a good job for us. And uh, you
Speaker 28: know the same thing with Bryce. You know, he had
Speaker 28: a a couple of good there at the end, situational
Speaker 28: punts that were what we needed. And so yeah, you know, guys,
Speaker 28: you know, been a couple of bad weather games already
Speaker 28: in September. It's not usually the case, but that's what
Speaker 28: it is, and that's what we're not to play in.
Speaker 28: So's some good learning experiences for both of them.
Speaker 6: I know he touched on it, no turnovers, but you
Speaker 6: know how important was that today?
Speaker 28: You know, Yeah, that's the most important things points, next
Speaker 28: most important things, turnovers, So there's certainly correlation there. So yeah,
Speaker 28: if we take better care of the ball, then that
Speaker 28: gives a lot better chance to win.
Speaker 26: Talk about Zeke, you feel them getting a little bit
Speaker 26: more comfortable and confident as now.
Speaker 1: He's in week three week you guys and progressing.
Speaker 28: Sure, Yeah, he's done a good job for us, and
Speaker 28: you know, I think we're getting a little better feel
Speaker 28: for some other things, you know, with him and vice versa.
Speaker 28: I thought he had a couple, you know, really good runs.
Speaker 28: Today old look at the film and look a little
Speaker 28: more carefully about. I thought he did a nice job
Speaker 28: of you know, he got his pads down, got a
Speaker 28: couple of some tough yards, and you know, his vision
Speaker 28: was good, you know, on a couple of cutback plays.
Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty seven yards on the ground.
Speaker 17: You know, Venerian low.
Speaker 30: Steps in and left exactly, it's a process for you
Speaker 30: guys at right tackle.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, just what's that been like watching the offensive
Speaker 1: line is David Andrews said earlier in the week, Hey,
Speaker 1: we gotta have that mentality who run the football against
Speaker 1: this year?
Speaker 28: Yeah, I mean that's that was a really big challenge
Speaker 28: against the Jets front. And you know, they play a
Speaker 28: lot of people up there, and they got a lot
Speaker 28: of good ones, you know obviously you know Williams and
Speaker 28: uh you know Woods inside and those guys are you
Speaker 28: know good and you know the ends, I mean they're
Speaker 28: I mean it's a good group, you know, nine guys
Speaker 28: that roll them all through. But you know a lot
Speaker 28: of it's just you know, staying on the locks, finishing blocks,
Speaker 28: good running, you know, just just good execution, grind it out.
Speaker 28: I mean it's you know, it's hard to rip off
Speaker 28: a bunch of twenty yard runs against these guys, like
Speaker 28: they just don't give those up. And they support quickly,
Speaker 28: you know Carter and Amos, you know, support to run quickly.
Speaker 28: So you know the receivers are you know, they are
Speaker 28: the challenge should block down Although I thought it was competitive,
Speaker 28: but yeah, that you know, I think that kind of
Speaker 28: helped us, you know, stew the pass rush down a
Speaker 28: little bit and keep the quarterback from getting you know,
Speaker 28: getting hit. You know, again, there was some place where
Speaker 28: he you know, gave a pressure, but overall, I thought
Speaker 28: it was a decent, decent day on pass protection. So
Speaker 28: you know, we just gotta we just got to convert
Speaker 28: and you know, get to get more points. And we
Speaker 28: got you know, fifteen. It's not gonna you know, it's
Speaker 28: generally do any more than that, but just good enough today.
Speaker 28: So it's a great job defensively, especially in the first half.
Speaker 28: Those guys are really really played well and responded.
Speaker 6: What did you see Zach Wilson?
Speaker 1: What'd you see from Zach Wilson today?
Speaker 28: Oh, you know, you really got out of the pocket
Speaker 28: there a couple of times in the third and fourth
Speaker 28: quarter on her It's really athletic. You know, I thought
Speaker 28: he hung on there and you know, I mean it's
Speaker 28: one of those kind of games, back and forth game.
Speaker 28: They had the ball, you know, at the end of
Speaker 28: the game with a chance throwing the end zone. I
Speaker 28: mean it's there's a lot of National Football League these days,
Speaker 28: So glad to get out of here with a win.
Speaker 12: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, there you go.
Speaker 5: There's a coach Belichick after the fifteen to ten win
Speaker 5: at Metlive Stadium today over the Jets. We do have
Speaker 5: an optimistic email here from Mark.
Speaker 1: We could use a little optimistic here in the last
Speaker 1: ten minutes. I have a lot of it in the show.
Speaker 1: Don't think it's the players as much as the play calling.
Speaker 1: Too many runs up the middle for low yards. Nothing
Speaker 1: exciting on offense. They did better with the tosses to
Speaker 1: running backs. I actually think this team is better than
Speaker 1: it's one and two record. Optimistic for the remainder of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, do.
Speaker 1: You think they're better than their one and two record?
Speaker 1: Now you're going to make fun of me. I think
Speaker 1: they are a one and two team right now. But
Speaker 1: I do think that we could use a little I mean,
Speaker 1: like from the listeners I'm talking about, like, I just
Speaker 1: think it's been pretty people have been pretty down.
Speaker 5: Well, let's see what Eric in New Jersey has to say. Eric,
Speaker 5: you're going to be optimistic.
Speaker 1: For us here?
Speaker 24: Absolutely not. Paul I had to push. I think give
Speaker 24: you Gil Smarty when you hear again I said you
Speaker 24: said we were competitive against the first two weeks. Again,
Speaker 24: we could say the same thing. Last year we beat
Speaker 24: we beat the Detroit Lions. There I went to at
Speaker 24: the time, at the end of the season, way different teams.
Speaker 24: I thought that you wouldn't be able to beat them
Speaker 24: last year, the team that they finished as opposed the
Speaker 24: team that we played them early in the season. So
Speaker 24: that'd be like my only pushback because I don't think
Speaker 24: we match up with those, uh, with those with those teams.
Speaker 24: Obviously you look at so what.
Speaker 1: Do you I'm not sure, like what are you pushing back?
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you, like I would actually
Speaker 1: look at today from the Jets perspective the way the
Speaker 1: Patriots fans tried to look at the first two weeks,
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, the ball at the end of the
Speaker 1: game with a chance to win. I don't really think
Speaker 1: you were very competitive in the game for the most
Speaker 1: part in the game. But because you're tough and because
Speaker 1: you made some plays, you know, on defense, you had
Speaker 1: a chance at the end. But the other team was better.
Speaker 1: The Patriots were better than the Jets today for fifty
Speaker 1: eight minutes. And I think the same thing about Philadelphia
Speaker 1: in in Miami, especially Miami Miami. Really I thought controlled
Speaker 1: the game. Philly was a little bit more even I
Speaker 1: thought Miami, like, yeah, they the Patriots had a chance
Speaker 1: to tie at the end, but I thought Miami was
Speaker 1: clearly better. Same with I would say today about the Patriots.
Speaker 1: The Patriots were clearly better today than the Jets.
Speaker 24: I wouldn't base it off it's uh, it's now who
Speaker 24: you played, but when you play.
Speaker 1: Them, yeah, and obviously that's big.
Speaker 24: And then the second point is that I'll take it
Speaker 24: off the line. Cold Strange. Too many times I saw
Speaker 24: him on the ground. They understand that's Quinton Williams first
Speaker 24: round draft pick. I mean he's out the game again. Injuries.
Speaker 24: I think they both started. You think that, you know,
Speaker 24: shit started to stay on Tai Kuwan, but Cold Cole Strange.
Speaker 15: Needs to be a look here, and I'll take it
Speaker 15: off the line.
Speaker 16: Thanks God.
Speaker 1: I think there's the jury still out on him. I agree.
Speaker 6: I mean, for all the praise of Christian Zalees and
Speaker 6: you know what he's brought as a first round pick,
Speaker 6: it's it's just it's hard to watch clod streams and
Speaker 6: see the first round pick emerge. I haven't really seen
Speaker 6: signs of him living up to that Billing Jet uh.
Speaker 1: V doo in California? Hello, v doo? What's going on?
Speaker 12: Hey? Can you guys hear me?
Speaker 16: Yes?
Speaker 12: All right?
Speaker 9: Perfect?
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 29: Sometimes my car's audience were to ask, you know, good
Speaker 29: we want today? You know, there are obviously some plays
Speaker 29: I think people.
Speaker 9: Said, all went and we score.
Speaker 29: Part of these things, Bill is petty. We got fifteen
Speaker 29: points because we beat him fifteen years, fifteen times.
Speaker 9: In a row.
Speaker 29: Probably let something to do that. But my question is
Speaker 29: you know that touchdown past the barrel, it was, it was,
Speaker 29: it was, it was beautiful. You know, it was more
Speaker 29: of what we want to see the team.
Speaker 12: Why didn't we get more of that.
Speaker 29: Throughout the game? And what do you think we should
Speaker 29: change going down the road. It's kind of good more
Speaker 29: of those kind of you know, I thought, I.
Speaker 1: Think the Jets didn't blow the coverages on every play
Speaker 1: like they they blew the coverage on that play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was totally no one covered them, blown coverage. Sorry,
Speaker 1: sixty two yards for Matt Jay, Yeah, snuck it in there.
Speaker 5: This isn't uh, this isn't great for the Patriots. If
Speaker 5: the Cowboys end up losing this game to the Cardinals,
Speaker 5: they'll be mad.
Speaker 1: Come home pissed off.
Speaker 6: Home field, they'll be mad and they'll play really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's not great. Problem, that's not great.
Speaker 5: Well, Mac Jones didn't know that the Cowboys were losing
Speaker 5: when he held his press conference. We will hear from
Speaker 5: the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Now go ahead, what do we got?
Speaker 16: He said? It just a win?
Speaker 23: How good did a field to come out of here
Speaker 23: with a win today?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 14: Good?
Speaker 10: I think for sure that was our goal. No turnovers,
Speaker 10: so we definitely did that. Offensive line did a great
Speaker 10: job keeping me upright and really proud of those guys
Speaker 10: in the backs were running hard, and then we had
Speaker 10: to make plays. We did, but definitely inconsistent. But gotta
Speaker 10: be happy with the win. I mean, that's that's all
Speaker 10: we came here for.
Speaker 6: What would you like to see cleaned up? Maybe some
Speaker 6: third down play second half, it seemed like you guys
Speaker 6: had some opportunities and just couldn't cash in.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, we're definitely close, and I thought the
Speaker 10: play calling was really good. Coach O'Brien did a great
Speaker 10: job calling a great game. We just got to execute
Speaker 10: better and I just got to let them touch the ball.
Speaker 10: But in a day like today, with the wind and
Speaker 10: the rain. You just gotta be really smart and play
Speaker 10: smart football.
Speaker 26: How valuable was that rushing attack today, mag And in particular,
Speaker 26: what have been your impressions of Zeke as.
Speaker 6: He since he joined the team.
Speaker 10: Great? Those guys are great together. The offensive line definitely
Speaker 10: brought it today. I thought they did a great job.
Speaker 10: And Zeke and Mandre are definitely working well together. They're different,
Speaker 10: but they're very similar in their own ways, and I'm
Speaker 10: just happy to have both of them.
Speaker 1: Touchdown pass to Pharaoh Brown.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was just a little play action play and
Speaker 10: we kind of knew it was gonna work, and he
Speaker 10: made a great catch and we worked on that in
Speaker 10: practice and it worked in the game. So that's what
Speaker 10: we want.
Speaker 14: What you said you know it was going to work.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna keep it to myself for the third down versions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can take us through that play, and you
Speaker 1: touch on conditions today and the difficulty of after all Portuna.
Speaker 10: We're talking about the one. Yeah, I have to watch
Speaker 10: the tape. I changed it to that play and I
Speaker 10: thought he definitely is faster than that corner or Nickel,
Speaker 10: so just wanted to give him a chance. And yeah,
Speaker 10: that's pretty much it.
Speaker 30: You guys had some success on the sneaks other than
Speaker 30: maybe the one that was stopped, but on one of
Speaker 30: them it looked like they took some liberty in there
Speaker 30: at the end with you knocking you over, Can.
Speaker 10: You share with us just football. I think it's a
Speaker 10: physical game and at that point in the game, you
Speaker 10: just have to fight to get it, no matter what
Speaker 10: you got to do to get the one yard. So
Speaker 10: this is part of the game.
Speaker 28: No big deal on that places guard was just saying
Speaker 28: he thought you could give him a low blow.
Speaker 6: Did you think you did anything wrong or that.
Speaker 10: No, I think just trying to get the first down
Speaker 10: third and one and then we came back on fourth
Speaker 10: and one and then try to fake it. So definitely
Speaker 10: a physical play. A lot of guys are in there.
Speaker 10: That's kind of like the famous quarterback sneak that everybody does,
Speaker 10: and there's you know, all all the guys on both
Speaker 10: teams are in there, so it can get you know,
Speaker 10: pretty physical, and and that's something that I have to
Speaker 10: learn from is getting my pads a little bit lower
Speaker 10: so that I can get it and not get you know,
Speaker 10: held up through we did.
Speaker 6: Matthews Later's leadership kind of provide in a two hole.
Speaker 6: He's obviously a leader all time, but specifically this week.
Speaker 10: Oh, he's great. He always is the same guy. He's
Speaker 10: seen a lot of a lot of wins and he's
Speaker 10: been a part of, you know, very few losses. But
Speaker 10: he has great wisdom and we kind of go as
Speaker 10: he goes. Definitely a great mentor for me and everybody
Speaker 10: on the team. So we just got to keep going. Guys,
Speaker 10: look pretty full of you for the defense and you know,
Speaker 10: the players.
Speaker 6: On the other side.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I knew today that, you know, in the conditions
Speaker 10: that they were going to do a great job stopping
Speaker 10: the other offense. And I kind of, you know, was
Speaker 10: really proud of them because they just kept going out
Speaker 10: there and doing it to the very last play and
Speaker 10: for me, just put more points on the board and
Speaker 10: we'll do that. It's like I said, it was a
Speaker 10: tough day, but we got the win, and you know
Speaker 10: a lot of it was from special teams in defense.
Speaker 6: Cool, thank you, Cool, he.
Speaker 1: Said, he is cool.
Speaker 5: Mac Jones. Cool is a cucumber. Got win number one
Speaker 5: on the season. Let's ride, Let's ride country.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there we go.
Speaker 5: There's your quarterback and we have an answer from Nick
Speaker 5: on a Mark's accent. Okay, oh, okay, we thought it
Speaker 5: was a Liverpool accent. He was near Liverpool, and Nick says,
Speaker 5: who is also from the UK, He said, just sounded
Speaker 5: like a Southern accent to me. I would be very
Speaker 5: surprised if Mark is originally from the North or he's
Speaker 5: just really posh.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Now I feel like we've started a
Speaker 1: little bit of a class war, yea across the pond? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, is is posh?
Speaker 5: Is that like a really derogatory thing to say? I mean,
Speaker 5: if I were to call you, would you take that
Speaker 5: as a compliment?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 6: You would.
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 6: You're like very upper crust and fancy and I don't know, I.
Speaker 5: Don't think so, no kind of yeah, I don't speak British.
Speaker 5: That's an underrated good line right there, Well done, well done,
Speaker 5: all right. Final thoughts on the game today, Paul, you
Speaker 5: go first.
Speaker 1: I just would say that they did what they had
Speaker 1: to do to find a way to get the win.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was going to be much different
Speaker 1: than it was. That's kind of what I was envisioning,
Speaker 1: the defense winning the game, and that's what happened. And
Speaker 1: it's you know what I mean, it's better than losing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a lot of losses.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would, I would, I would echo those sentiments.
Speaker 6: I would say, you know, kind of watching it with
Speaker 6: one eye with what's going on with Dallas too, you know,
Speaker 6: maybe giving you a little bit of optimism that that
Speaker 6: you know, twenty one ten and a half, maybe they
Speaker 6: could get in there and get a win next week.
Speaker 6: But you know, I just I think it gets back
Speaker 6: to being another real difficult opponent next week, and one
Speaker 6: that you know, fifteen points probably not going to be
Speaker 6: enough against Dallas no matter how they're playing this week.
Speaker 6: So hopefully they continue to evolve and find something and
Speaker 6: you know, kind of just start to find an identity
Speaker 6: on offense, because you can't really complain about the offensive
Speaker 6: line and the running game right now. It's more just
Speaker 6: a whole picture thing.
Speaker 1: All right.
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Speaker 5: say two o'clock meet up. How about like two to
Speaker 5: two oh five.
Speaker 6: I like that better.
Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, sometime.
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Speaker 5: final score for the final time.
Speaker 2: Patriots fifteen what What Jets ten?
Speaker 1: They deserve it after getting win number one on the season.
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