Speaker 1: Welcome into What's burning, my friends, joined by Matt Barnes,
Speaker 1: Steven Jackson, and guys. We've got so much good playoff
Speaker 1: stuff going on, I just want to get straight into it.
Speaker 1: Monday night in the NBA thrilling in Miami, Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: dropping fifty six points, swaying the series, putting the number
Speaker 1: eight seed up three to one on top of the
Speaker 1: top seeded Bucks. And look, we have to start with Jimmy, right,
Speaker 1: This was the most points in Heat playoff history, which
Speaker 1: is saying something on a team where Lebron, James, Dwayne
Speaker 1: Wade shack all one titles. At one point in the
Speaker 1: third quarter, guys, Jimmy had thirty five points and the
Speaker 1: rest of the Heat had thirty nine points. So cannot
Speaker 1: overstate his value there. But I got a question for you.
Speaker 1: Was Jimmy Butler's Game four the single greatest playoff performance
Speaker 1: for a Miami Heat player. We know it's the most points,
Speaker 1: but you got to remember we had that Lebron game
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, that Game six versus the Celtics up
Speaker 1: in Boston in the Eastern Conference Finals, when the Heat
Speaker 1: were down three to two. We had forty five fifteen
Speaker 1: to five. We had Tim Hardway versus the Knicks in
Speaker 1: ninety seven, that Game seven in the second round, thirty
Speaker 1: eight points, seven assists. And of course Dwayne Wade in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and six finals, remember he had that
Speaker 1: Game three, they were down two, they were down thirteen
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter and it came back and
Speaker 1: I think he had forty something points. He did it
Speaker 1: again in Game five of that series. So where would
Speaker 1: you put this Jimmy Butler performance stack in the grand
Speaker 1: scheme of Miami performances.
Speaker 2: I definitely put it up there with you know that
Speaker 2: one of the top performances. I definitely think lebron performance
Speaker 2: is at the top. Just what was his stake and
Speaker 2: the team he was playing against and how he dominated.
Speaker 2: I think Lebron his performance against Boston is always going
Speaker 2: to be at the top of me for Miami.
Speaker 3: But Jimmy Butler's right there to score those points.
Speaker 2: And you know, if it was if it was the
Speaker 2: East Conference Finals, then I will be saying it might
Speaker 2: be bigger than Bron. But it is just the first round,
Speaker 2: which is still big because they're playing a number one seed,
Speaker 2: and I don't think I think the last time what
Speaker 2: a number one seed was knocked out in the first
Speaker 2: round was us, So it's good to see they have
Speaker 2: them have an opportunity to do it.
Speaker 4: I think too, I think the stage obviously, and you
Speaker 4: never want to take anything away from Jimmy. This guy
Speaker 4: wills his team somehow someway every single time he steps
Speaker 4: on the floor.
Speaker 5: My number one performance is.
Speaker 4: D Wade because he did it on the biggest stage,
Speaker 4: which is in the finals, and it was a long
Speaker 4: time ago, and my memory is a little shaky because
Speaker 4: I do smoke a lot, but I just remember seeing
Speaker 4: how incredible he was in those games to become finals MVP. Obviously,
Speaker 4: what bron did in Boston is huge because on that stage,
Speaker 4: but you know not the definitely don't want to take
Speaker 4: anything away from Jimmy for what he did last night.
Speaker 5: It was incredible.
Speaker 4: Just someone who's a Swiss army knife can give you
Speaker 4: whatever you need to win, and last night it was
Speaker 4: scoring and he did it.
Speaker 5: But I'm one of the greatest.
Speaker 6: Players now, I'm with you on the gween Wig one.
Speaker 1: I just remember sort of them looking like that whole
Speaker 1: series was going to be a wash, and he turned
Speaker 1: the whole thing around. They end up winning a title
Speaker 1: him in check and that great team with a lons
Speaker 1: of warnings. So I agree that time and place matters,
Speaker 1: But there's no question that Jimmy Butler has been phenomenal
Speaker 1: in the playoffs overall throughout his career, certainly on Monday Night,
Speaker 1: but he really took issue guys with that playoff Jimmy idea.
Speaker 1: And you remember, for Jihon Rondo used to take issue
Speaker 1: with the idea that there was a playoff Rondo. Jimmy
Speaker 1: was asked about last night about playoff Jimmy, and he
Speaker 1: was like, no, there's no that's not true. I'm just
Speaker 1: hooping that kind of thing. Why do you think, Matt,
Speaker 1: why do you think guys don't like that?
Speaker 6: Moniker?
Speaker 4: Maybe because you want to think that you're giving your
Speaker 4: best effort the entire season. But you know, Jimmy has
Speaker 4: been that one guy particular, I mean even more than
Speaker 4: maybe even more than Rondo. And I say that's all
Speaker 4: due respect. In the playoffs, Jimmy turns something else on.
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe it's the beer he's drinking come playoff time,
Speaker 4: or the music he's listening to. But again, Jimmy is
Speaker 4: someone who has willed his team not just this year,
Speaker 4: but pretty much every year he's been in Miami. They
Speaker 4: made a run to the finals, and he was incredible
Speaker 4: in Gas the entire time. But he is just one
Speaker 4: of the most, you know, one of the greatest competitors
Speaker 4: we've ever seen in this game, who's whose heart is
Speaker 4: as big as anyone's in this game. And whether he
Speaker 4: likes it or not, playoff Jimmy is just some different stack.
Speaker 6: Playoff Jimmy is a real thing, right.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that with him. I mean, because he
Speaker 2: you know, he gives effort all year round. It it's
Speaker 2: some guys that when they give him their playoff name
Speaker 2: it f it's because they only play harder, they only
Speaker 2: give the effort in the playoffs. But with Jimmy, I
Speaker 2: I think I think he gives that for all year round.
Speaker 3: I just think in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Is highlighted because the game slows down, the star players
Speaker 2: have the ball more, and you really get to see
Speaker 2: our chalented these guys.
Speaker 6: His numbers are better in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's the I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: it is an effort thing, because I agree with you,
Speaker 1: I think that that he gives effort the whole year through.
Speaker 1: But I wonder if it's just situationally he's able to
Speaker 1: do more in those situations. Whatever it is, it's working
Speaker 1: for the Miami Heat. Do you guys think, I mean,
Speaker 1: coming back from three to one in the series has
Speaker 1: only very rarely happened. Do you guys think that Giannis
Speaker 1: in the Bucks can do this or do you think
Speaker 1: this series is over?
Speaker 2: If there's one player that can his team back from
Speaker 2: being three to one, is Giannis I believe. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying they're going to do it, but if somebody could
Speaker 2: do it, it would be him.
Speaker 3: I don't know how healthy he is.
Speaker 2: He still he was limpy, limped away last night from
Speaker 2: the game in one position and he fell hard for
Speaker 2: the first.
Speaker 3: Time so again on his back.
Speaker 2: So I don't know how healthy is but if he's
Speaker 2: a one hundred percent, they got a good chance.
Speaker 4: And you also see what I think Jack just pointed out,
Speaker 4: or maybe I missed one, but at the very end
Speaker 4: of the game, the last play of the game, he
Speaker 4: fell right on his tailbone, and I don't think no
Speaker 4: one noticed that because Miami had won.
Speaker 5: But that could be a big if. But I agree
Speaker 5: with Jack.
Speaker 4: I mean, if there's one team that can well back,
Speaker 4: It's Giannis's team. And the only reason why I feel
Speaker 4: like they can do it is because Jimmy has to
Speaker 4: play like this every single game, you know. I mean, obviously,
Speaker 4: this is one game which was incredible. You know, obviously
Speaker 4: they're shorthanded with Tyler Herro. They just lost Victor Oluwadipo
Speaker 4: to another terrible knee injury. But if Jimmy's going to
Speaker 4: have to drop fifty every night or be in the
Speaker 4: high forties every night, that doesn't necessarily favor his team.
Speaker 4: And then, you know, because Milwaukee pretty much had the
Speaker 4: game in hand, they saidn't play a full forty eight minutes,
Speaker 4: So I think it'll be interesting. You don't want to
Speaker 4: take anything away from Jimmy in the Heat squad for
Speaker 4: what they were able to accomplish last night, but the
Speaker 4: windows definitely still open for Milwaukee. They got to go
Speaker 4: home and take care of business and then game again.
Speaker 1: We don't know, we don't know how Yiannis is going
Speaker 1: to be and frankly, as you point out, the Heat
Speaker 1: cannot sustain one more injury to one more important guy
Speaker 1: on that team. I mean, they're so thin right now.
Speaker 1: So we'll have to see what happens if the Bucks
Speaker 1: do end up losing this series. Though a first round
Speaker 1: exit for a top seeded team, as you point out,
Speaker 1: Stack has not happened in a long long time. The
Speaker 1: Bucks will have to sit and take a look at
Speaker 1: what they want to do. You've got Brook Lopez as
Speaker 1: an unrestricted free agent, Chris Middleton has a player option.
Speaker 1: Do you think Stack, if they do lose this first
Speaker 1: round series, you just draw it up to, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: chalk it up to injuries and Giannis and we try
Speaker 1: to run it back for next year again.
Speaker 6: Or do you think you want to make some major changes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's hard to say you need to
Speaker 2: make changes when Giannis is not one hundred percent. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's that's what makes that machine go. I mean, if
Speaker 2: he was a hundred percent, we're probably be saying that
Speaker 2: David Series. So I think that I think they kind
Speaker 2: of keeped the core of that team together. Lopez has
Speaker 2: had a great year. He almost won Defensive Player of
Speaker 2: the Year. So Lopez is and somebody that need to
Speaker 2: keep in pocket the pick and rolled at him and
Speaker 2: Gianna was running yesterday was Miami couldn't stop it, So
Speaker 2: I just I just think it might be some other
Speaker 2: players they need to need to tune in and take out.
Speaker 2: But for the most part, I think they're still good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely don't think you blowed this this core up.
Speaker 4: This corp has been one of the most consistent cores
Speaker 4: the last handful of years. But if you guys remember
Speaker 4: before Milwaukee came out of nowhere and won that finals,
Speaker 4: who was on the hot spital coach but it was
Speaker 4: Bud And you got to think there was a lot
Speaker 4: in shock point or was it Charles that pointed it
Speaker 4: out last night and on TNT after the game, there
Speaker 4: were some times there there was some questionable decision making
Speaker 4: and timeouts that weren't called during that run that Miami
Speaker 4: was making.
Speaker 5: That kind of had me on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was just thinking, like, I was about
Speaker 4: to start tweeting, but I was dealing with Ash so
Speaker 4: I didn't. But I'm thinking, like, and it just made
Speaker 4: me think back to before Milwaukee won their championship. That's
Speaker 4: that championship saved their head coach, so out again, I
Speaker 4: don't think it's with the players, if anything, and I'm
Speaker 4: not even saying they need to if this doesn't work.
Speaker 4: They need a fire bud. But I think he brew
Speaker 4: Up probably will take some heat and there will be
Speaker 4: some you know, deep examining of his abilities to lead.
Speaker 1: That'd be interesting to see. But as you guys say,
Speaker 1: I think the Bucks still have a chance. That series
Speaker 1: is far from over, and either way it's gonna be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good time, all right. I want
Speaker 1: to get over back here to La because Lebron went
Speaker 1: twenty and twenty in year twenty, first time in a
Speaker 1: playoff game he's ever posted those numbers, by the way,
Speaker 1: first time in fifty years that a player of his
Speaker 1: age has done it. In fact, he broke Wilt's record.
Speaker 1: What was thirty six when he did it. Lebron is,
Speaker 1: of course thirty eight. So crazy to have a guy
Speaker 1: at that age put up those.
Speaker 6: Kinds of numbers.
Speaker 1: Lakers fans, of course, a whirlwind of emotions this entire season.
Speaker 1: They've re ramped the roster eighty and Lebron have both
Speaker 1: missed extended periods of time.
Speaker 6: They battled just to get into the play in and
Speaker 6: now they're up three to one. Though on the number.
Speaker 1: Two seeded Grizzlies and Matt you always said if the
Speaker 1: Lakers get in, they'd be dangerous. But is that just
Speaker 1: because hey, they're the team with Lebron James? Is that
Speaker 1: going to be enough? Is they keep going here? I
Speaker 1: don't know if he can do twenty and twenty every night.
Speaker 1: What's your assessment here as we go?
Speaker 4: Well, Rachel was crazy because as I was watching this
Speaker 4: game last night, I was in a group chat with
Speaker 4: Jelani and a couple of the UCLA home boys and
Speaker 4: I literally said, because he was really passive down the
Speaker 4: stretch before overtime, like didn't look to attack, didn't look
Speaker 4: to anything. I was just like, damn, it doesn't look
Speaker 4: like Lebron can get you know, he's not really doing
Speaker 4: anything to get by no one. And when I tell you,
Speaker 4: as soon as I said that, he started going, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And everyone in might like, hey,
Speaker 4: you know that in age well, literally like thirty seconds,
Speaker 4: it's like he heard me. But to your point, Rachel,
Speaker 4: I don't think Lebron can sustain. Sometimes people say you
Speaker 4: had to catch your second win. He had to catch
Speaker 4: his third win last night, which was incredible, and he
Speaker 4: was able to do it and again, like Jimmy will
Speaker 4: his team to victory but my biggest question mark is
Speaker 4: Anthony Davis is inconsistency. He'll give you thirty and seventeen, one, nine,
Speaker 4: and then he comes back and gives you what do
Speaker 4: you have last night?
Speaker 5: Like eleven and twelve?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: When he's talent wise supposed to be one of the
Speaker 4: greatest players that this game has. So it'll be very
Speaker 4: interesting to see how much juice Lebron has because there's
Speaker 4: times where you watch the game and granted that twenty
Speaker 4: twenty was absolutely incredible for someone his age at this point,
Speaker 4: but you can just tell that that as a team,
Speaker 4: they can't sustain energy consistently. It's crazy. There's so many
Speaker 4: peaks and valleys with that team. So I think this
Speaker 4: team can still beat Memphis because Memphis is shorthanded, but
Speaker 4: it'll be interesting to see if they have enough gas
Speaker 4: as a team to continue to advance. It's gonna take
Speaker 4: the role players to continue to play well. Austin Reeves
Speaker 4: has played itself into a lot of money, but I
Speaker 4: really put a lot of a lot of the a
Speaker 4: lot of the focus on Anthony Davis. If Anthony Davis
Speaker 4: is going to be the guy that can step up
Speaker 4: in these big games and help burden the load that
Speaker 4: Lebron has faced every game its entire career. This team
Speaker 4: has a chance to, you know, continue their journey through
Speaker 4: the West, because the West is to me still.
Speaker 6: Tell a D if you were his coach or his teammate,
Speaker 6: Oh boy.
Speaker 5: I want to hear this.
Speaker 3: I tell.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I don't know, honestly, they don't know.
Speaker 2: What would I tell? What would I tell?
Speaker 5: I was?
Speaker 2: I was thinking more from the Memphis side, the Lakers.
Speaker 2: You know, they got a D and Lebron, they should
Speaker 2: win the series. The Memphis don't have the big man.
Speaker 2: That's a big difference. Lebron wouldn't be getting twenty rebounds
Speaker 2: with Steven Adam and it was in the series. Steven
Speaker 2: Allams is a big part of this series. And then again,
Speaker 2: you know, Lebron just smartered. He just smarter than all
Speaker 2: these players out there on the court. You know they
Speaker 2: don't they were talented, rach, but they don't play attention
Speaker 2: to detail at all. You know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: I think this is what's sewing at Lebron's age. Is
Speaker 2: his IQ over everybody's IQ on the court. You let
Speaker 2: Lebron go right at it could clutch point of the
Speaker 2: game with one drivel to the rim. He's gonna score
Speaker 2: every time, you know. And it's just just and every time.
Speaker 2: I mean just They're just not They just not understand
Speaker 2: the game of details.
Speaker 3: No way. If I was in that game, I would
Speaker 3: let Lebron go right.
Speaker 2: Lebron can score, he can, he can score right every time,
Speaker 2: but going left the percentages dropped. So I would force
Speaker 2: him to go left and make him past to somebody
Speaker 2: else and make Austin Reeves and somebody beat you. But
Speaker 2: you don't let Lebron just drive to the rim. So
Speaker 2: Lebron is just ten times smarter than everybody on the court.
Speaker 1: Well, you can definitely see the youth with the Grizzlies,
Speaker 1: and they've had their own kind of discombobulation throughout this series.
Speaker 6: Dylan Brooks talking, not talking.
Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see what happens when
Speaker 1: they get back down to Memphis. But I do agree
Speaker 1: with you, Matt Anthony Davis has to be more consistent.
Speaker 1: This was supposed to be a situation when Lebron came
Speaker 1: to the Lakers that, yes, he was going to be
Speaker 1: the dominant player. When he first got to La. But
Speaker 1: the idea, I mean he said it out loud. The
Speaker 1: idea was that it would transition into being a D's team,
Speaker 1: and that he would be a very talented elder statesman,
Speaker 1: but sort of as he approached forty, that he would
Speaker 1: be sort of the older piece on the team and
Speaker 1: that the real powerhouse would be Anthony Davis. And we
Speaker 1: haven't seen that full transition yet. I mean, Lebron is
Speaker 1: still the guy that makes this team go. You would
Speaker 1: think that this playoffs, if the Lakers are going to win,
Speaker 1: it's going to have to be because Anthony Davis can
Speaker 1: take over games consistently.
Speaker 6: I'm looking for it. We'll see if it happens. I
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 4: Hold on right before we jump to the next topic,
Speaker 4: let's rewind you mentioned Dylan Brooks. How do you talk shit?
Speaker 4: Continuing to talk shit and then try to say that
Speaker 4: the media and the fans are making you a villain,
Speaker 4: and then when you start getting your head busted, you
Speaker 4: don't want to talk to the media no more?
Speaker 5: Like how does how does that? I mean, how do
Speaker 5: you It's.
Speaker 4: Easy to talk shit when shit's cool, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, But when your back's against the wall, you
Speaker 4: got to stand on what you're talking and now you
Speaker 4: want to I'm out and I'm not talking to the media.
Speaker 4: He's acting like a whe straight up, straight up, and
Speaker 4: he's trying to point the finger at everyone else.
Speaker 1: That's we talk about on the court, that guys gotta
Speaker 1: like learn how to do things right. That their young
Speaker 1: team and they got all the stuff Sack was just
Speaker 1: talking about. I think with trash talk is the same thing.
Speaker 5: Right, come, mom, man, you gotta stand on it.
Speaker 4: You got to stand on it, especially when you're talking
Speaker 4: about you know what I mean, you're disrespecting one of
Speaker 4: the greatest, if not the greatest player we've ever seen.
Speaker 5: And when things start to not.
Speaker 4: Go your way a little bit, now you're pointing the
Speaker 4: finger at the media, and you're pointing the finger at
Speaker 4: the fans, and you don't want to talk to the
Speaker 4: media because you your mouth roid to check your ass cash,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I think he's on
Speaker 4: some clown behavior and and all that kind of stuff
Speaker 4: adds up, you know, because the one thing about MEMPHISI is,
Speaker 4: you know, during the regular season, a little bit of
Speaker 4: outside noise won't necessarily deter you. You know, they had
Speaker 4: some stuff with joh Dylan's been in and out with
Speaker 4: technical fouls. They've they've obviously had some injuries, but you know,
Speaker 4: come playoff time, there has to be a singular focus
Speaker 4: and there has to be a team focus. And I
Speaker 4: think he individually had tried to make it an individual
Speaker 4: one on one type matchup and when that shit didn't work,
Speaker 4: now all of a sudden, it's everyone else's fault with his.
Speaker 5: That's some clown shit.
Speaker 2: Well I don't, I don't. I kind of disagree, man,
Speaker 2: because they asked him about Braun. I mean, they asked
Speaker 2: him a question, and I don't think he was supposed
Speaker 2: to say, oh, Braun is the greatest and all that.
Speaker 3: He said, what do he wanted? How he felt?
Speaker 2: Now, if he didn't back up his play, that's one thing,
Speaker 2: and people canna say he talking trash and not backing
Speaker 2: up his play as one thing, But the other things
Speaker 2: they saying about him as a person, I think that's
Speaker 2: what he talking about. Yeah, he talking trash, he didn't
Speaker 2: back it up as a person. Because I've been there,
Speaker 2: I talked trash on the court. I got my ass
Speaker 2: buzzed by Broun, Kobe, all of them. But when they
Speaker 2: try to take it as you as a person and
Speaker 2: attack your as you as a person and not on
Speaker 2: the court. I think that's what he kind of talked
Speaker 2: about running from the media. Yeah, you got to stand
Speaker 2: up because you're the same person that said he was
Speaker 2: old and all that, so you got to you gotta
Speaker 2: take that after Lebron have a twenty twenty game. But
Speaker 2: when you start tacking the person off the court, I
Speaker 2: think that's what he running from. No, we different. We
Speaker 2: didn't run from nothing whatever said. We stood up behind him.
Speaker 2: But I don't think he really talking about as far
Speaker 2: as him talking is trash and not backing up. I
Speaker 2: think they're trying to say he a thug and a
Speaker 2: villain and all this stuff which he take on on
Speaker 2: the court, but once he off the court, lead that
Speaker 2: man alone.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I never heard the thug part, But I mean I
Speaker 4: think the villain rolling. We've both been villains, and we
Speaker 4: played a big hand in creating that villain narrative, and
Speaker 4: we were cool with it.
Speaker 5: Like you said, we stood on it.
Speaker 4: Whether we were right or wrong, played well or played
Speaker 4: like shit, we stood on it and we followed through.
Speaker 5: But that was I've never heard. I haven't heard no one.
Speaker 4: I must have missed it, you know, talking about him
Speaker 4: off the court, as far as I mean, he can't
Speaker 4: be a thug. He walks in with a vest with
Speaker 4: no shirt on. That ain't a thug. So I'm not
Speaker 4: talking about I don't think I missed If they were
Speaker 4: talking bad about him as a person, I.
Speaker 5: Didn't hear that part.
Speaker 4: But I'm keeping it strictly on the basketball front, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like you've got to stand on
Speaker 4: all this shit you're talking about and when it doesn't go, well,
Speaker 4: that's the humility part. That's the part where you still
Speaker 4: have to look at the look into the media and
Speaker 4: look into the camera and still say whatever you want
Speaker 4: to say. But to me, you're you're running after the
Speaker 4: last two games because shit has necessarily gone your way.
Speaker 4: And that's what I'm not definitely not talking about because
Speaker 4: you and I have both been labeled off the court.
Speaker 4: Well you might have a little thuggish tendencies in you,
Speaker 4: but you know, b I was never in you know,
Speaker 4: in those shit like that. But I'm talking strictly like basketball.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna talk and and and again, I like
Speaker 4: Dylan Brooks because to me, you know, Jack are saying
Speaker 4: is you know, check it or respect it, and no
Speaker 4: one has checked it, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 4: I'm saying he's kind of checking hisself now by just
Speaker 4: not standing on what he's said, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I like the fact that Dylan Brooks lives rent free
Speaker 4: in a lot of different people's head and one has
Speaker 4: really done anything about it, but that the tables have
Speaker 4: turned slightly. And I don't like how he wants to
Speaker 4: blame the media and the fans and now he doesn't
Speaker 4: want to talk after the game.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm talking about, And.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm happy he did say those things about
Speaker 2: Broun because because he brought a side Lebroun and I
Speaker 2: never seen that. I never seen Lebron Broun walk up
Speaker 2: to nobody before the game, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I've been I've been dying to see this person
Speaker 2: for twenty years.
Speaker 3: Everybody say, well, Braun, ain't that guy.
Speaker 2: I get it, But I've been dying to see this
Speaker 2: guy for twenty years because if we would have seen
Speaker 2: this guy from year one, Rach And I'm gonna say
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna say that we'd have seen this guy
Speaker 2: in this Memphis series that we seen from year one,
Speaker 2: we wouldn't be talking about who the best player of
Speaker 2: all time?
Speaker 4: A mad or mad or mean Lebron that's what Lebron's Yeah,
Speaker 4: we wouldn't mean.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't be Lebron.
Speaker 1: Tried to be mean for a season in Miami, members
Speaker 1: first year in Miami, and he said being a villain
Speaker 1: did not do well for him. Villain like himself.
Speaker 6: But I get it, I got.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 2: Got to be in.
Speaker 3: You're not on, you can't be on.
Speaker 1: I just want to know what you think act would
Speaker 1: look like. If he came in with the best with
Speaker 1: no shirt.
Speaker 5: We wouldn't be friends no more.
Speaker 2: Hell, I wouldn't have no friends.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to Devin Booker too, on the
Speaker 1: other side of the series, though, because he's been electric,
Speaker 1: Sons hitting their stride, Booker averaging thirty five a game,
Speaker 1: shooting fifty seven percent from the floor. So, Matt, would
Speaker 1: you say Devin Booker has been the best player in
Speaker 1: the postseason so far?
Speaker 6: Would you give that title to someone else?
Speaker 4: I want to say this before I say that this
Speaker 4: is the Kevin Durant effect, and this is not taking
Speaker 4: anything away from Booker. It's the fact that Kevin Durant
Speaker 4: is on the floor too, and it frees up Booker
Speaker 4: so much. And obviously Bookers so has to go out
Speaker 4: there and do what he does. But Booker's always been incredible.
Speaker 4: But I think the freedom in the ability to do
Speaker 4: everything he's doing again. And this is definitely not a
Speaker 4: knock on book because he's one of my favorite players,
Speaker 4: but the fact that Kevin Durant is that other wing
Speaker 4: allows him to go crazy. With that said, I definitely
Speaker 4: say that Booker is up, you know, probably top. You
Speaker 4: could have him won two or three. I mean, there's
Speaker 4: been a lot of great guys, Stephan and Deer and
Speaker 4: Fox has been a great battle in that series.
Speaker 5: Booker has been incredible.
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards, although his team hasn't really played well, he's
Speaker 4: been incredible. You look over at Brunson, He's There's been
Speaker 4: a lot of great individual performance this year. But I
Speaker 4: definitely think Booker is the head of the class this year.
Speaker 4: He's playing the lights out for them and I hope
Speaker 4: it can continue.
Speaker 2: When the last time Booker got a swing swing from
Speaker 2: a double team wide open three right right, since KD
Speaker 2: been there, man, they look good. I mean it's definitely
Speaker 2: the KD effect. I mean, Matt said it all.
Speaker 1: All right, Matt, So while I have you here by yourself,
Speaker 1: it's the time to ask you about the Matt Barnes
Speaker 1: versus Matt Barnes series Kings Warriors.
Speaker 6: Kings had a chance to.
Speaker 1: Go up three to one, little sloppy played down the
Speaker 1: stretch some savvy from the Warriors means they're now tied
Speaker 1: at two instead, and now Darren Fox is a fracture
Speaker 1: on his index finger of his shooting hand. Matt, how
Speaker 1: do you handicap this series from this point out?
Speaker 4: It's fucked up, man, And I've been torn this whole
Speaker 4: series rage obviously, you know Warriors in my history with them,
Speaker 4: and we believe, and the opportunity to be on a
Speaker 4: championship team, and then you know, Sacramento's my hometown team
Speaker 4: and they've been bad for so long and they're finally
Speaker 4: here and they're real and then they're the real deal.
Speaker 4: And I think you touched on inexperience played a huge
Speaker 4: part in Game four. Down the stretch, clutch time, turnover,
Speaker 4: shot selection rotations, just a lot of things that you know,
Speaker 4: the Warriors aren't going to beat themselves and I feel
Speaker 4: like the Kings beat themselves in Game four and still
Speaker 4: had a shot, you know, with Harrison Barnes at the
Speaker 4: end of the game to win it. The unfortunate news
Speaker 4: with Dearon Foxes is terrible. And I'm someone who's played
Speaker 4: through several finger injuries, but I've never had the yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but I've never had the load and the responsibility of
Speaker 4: a de Aaron fox And I tell you, and I
Speaker 4: did play through this, but it shit was terrible, you know,
Speaker 4: especially because similar to him, we were both very active
Speaker 4: on the defensive end. So anytime you swipe at a
Speaker 4: ball and hit it the wrong way or even land
Speaker 4: and then offensively holding the ball and people swiping at you,
Speaker 4: and you know someone like Draymond is going to take
Speaker 4: a hacksaw Jim Duggan hack at that hand like he should,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. That's a part of the game,
Speaker 4: Like if someone has an injury, you go after that injury.
Speaker 4: So when I heard the news yesterday, I was just
Speaker 4: so disheartened because I still feel like this team has
Speaker 4: a chance. I mean, I think Game five is a
Speaker 4: must win for Sacramento if they're going to move on.
Speaker 4: But they're gonna need de Aaron, so you know, I'm
Speaker 4: praying that, you know, he's able to come back and
Speaker 4: be healthy because we want to see these teams at
Speaker 4: full strength. You know, I didn't agree with the Draymond
Speaker 4: and you people can get mad all they want. I
Speaker 4: didn't think he should have been suspended because I want
Speaker 4: to see both these teams, you know, at their best.
Speaker 5: So Sacramento is right there.
Speaker 4: You hate to just you know, you hate to have
Speaker 4: like these moral victories, but I think Sacramento has shown
Speaker 4: that they're this team is real and for the next
Speaker 4: handful of years, they're going to be very real and
Speaker 4: continue to get better. But it is a must win.
Speaker 4: Game five is a must win for Sacramento. You don't
Speaker 4: want to let the Warriors win three straight games going
Speaker 4: back to uh San Francisco. So we will have to
Speaker 4: see how dearon Fox handles this injury. And then from
Speaker 4: m King's side, Sabonis and heard her playing the simple
Speaker 4: I have to step up.
Speaker 3: Keigan.
Speaker 4: Murray had struggled the first three games, and he came
Speaker 4: out and had a tremendous game, and I didn't know
Speaker 4: why he wasn't playing down the stretch, but Herder and
Speaker 4: Sabonis have yet to really find their rhythm in this game.
Speaker 4: And I say that with all due respect to to
Speaker 4: Sabonus because he's still putting up double doubles, but it's
Speaker 4: just not his normal typical game if you've seen him
Speaker 4: play all season. So Golden State is sitting right where
Speaker 4: they want to. You know, Sacramento had their first two
Speaker 4: games at home go and Stay handled their next two games.
Speaker 4: But now you're starting to see the experience of where
Speaker 4: Golden State has been the last eight to nine years.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that Draymond suspension, and you know, of course
Speaker 1: the League office when they did it said that his
Speaker 1: history came into play.
Speaker 6: I thought.
Speaker 1: Draymond, by the way, the other day, had the line
Speaker 1: of the playoffs so far. He said, I didn't know
Speaker 1: you could get suspended for a flagrant fell from seven
Speaker 1: years ago, which thought was great, Which is great. Draymon
Speaker 1: really did an interesting thing in game four, by the way,
Speaker 1: is that he took himself out of the starting lineup.
Speaker 1: He went to Steve Kerr and after sitting on the
Speaker 1: sidelines for Game three, he said he watched the game
Speaker 1: it was like watching film live and that he saw
Speaker 1: the extra space that was there by only having one
Speaker 1: big on the floor, and he went to Steve Kerr.
Speaker 1: First he went to Steph Curry and asked him. Then
Speaker 1: he went to Steve Kerr and said, I think that
Speaker 1: you know, he said, look, I think we should just
Speaker 1: start Kevon Looney, we should just start one. And he's
Speaker 1: the one who's earned it at this point. And then
Speaker 1: you know, of course Steve did start Draymond for the
Speaker 1: beginning of the second half, but what did you think
Speaker 1: of Draymond doing that overall and just stepping up and
Speaker 1: taking that on himself and then also the effected head
Speaker 1: this this.
Speaker 5: Is the reason why he's one of my favorite players.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Just and I think people get a glimpse of him
Speaker 4: as a as a player during those two and a
Speaker 4: half hours. Well now you obviously get him on his
Speaker 4: podcast too, but just the way he thinks the game.
Speaker 4: One of the most intelligent high basketball IQ players that
Speaker 4: I think this game has ever seen. And just a
Speaker 4: stand up move, you know what I mean? I mean,
Speaker 4: because that was the question, like, Hey, the Warriors finally
Speaker 4: won a first game without Draymond, and obviously people are
Speaker 4: trying to say dumb shit like, oh, they're better with
Speaker 4: the that's ridiculous, not better without him, That's an absolute fact.
Speaker 4: They don't have any championships if this guy isn't on
Speaker 4: the team. But I just think the fact that you know,
Speaker 4: obviously he stood up, you know what he probably you know,
Speaker 4: you know he thought he shouldn't have been ejected either
Speaker 4: or suspended either, but he was. He took the time
Speaker 4: to watch the game and kind of see the game.
Speaker 4: You know, most people couldn't wait, I can't wait to
Speaker 4: get back out there and do but he he saw
Speaker 4: how well they played without him, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's just like, you know, for him to have
Speaker 4: that kind of that mind and willing to sacrifice and
Speaker 4: it worked.
Speaker 5: But him still being so instrumental in the game.
Speaker 4: I mean, he had huge steals in blocks and rebounds
Speaker 4: down the stretch that really sealed this team's victory. So
Speaker 4: his energy to win, so again another reason why Draymond
Speaker 4: is not only one of my favorite players, but favorite people.
Speaker 4: And again this is this is going to be big
Speaker 4: for the Kings. I mean, they're in they're in uncharted
Speaker 4: territory right now. You know, how do you bounce back
Speaker 4: from two straight losses two games you possibly could have won.
Speaker 4: There was chances, even in that first game when they
Speaker 4: ended up losing by double digits, that if Sacramento could
Speaker 4: have hit anything, they could have made a run.
Speaker 5: So this is a great test for a young.
Speaker 4: Team going back home wounded, with guys not playing very well,
Speaker 4: and you know that Golden State is looking. You know,
Speaker 4: Golden State sees blood in the water. Now you know
Speaker 4: they see blood in the water, they see a wounded animal.
Speaker 4: So we're gonna have to see how this Sacramento team
Speaker 4: responds behind to.
Speaker 1: See how Sacramento rises to the occasion. I want to
Speaker 1: see other Warriors rise to the occasion too, because they've
Speaker 1: been crappy on the road for so much of this
Speaker 1: season that even with a golden opportunity in front of them,
Speaker 1: I want to see if they can execute.
Speaker 6: So we'll have to see.
Speaker 1: It's a pivotal game five, one of the most fun
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Speaker 4: I think there was a stat that someone just sent me.
Speaker 4: Let me look on my phone real quick. It was
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Speaker 4: King's Warriors series. The battle between Stephan d'aron Fox has
Speaker 4: been incredible and Daron Fox is letting everyone know I'm
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the world.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at Wednesday's game Makes Picks Game
Speaker 1: five nix at Calves. Calves are five and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites. Do the Knicks close it out in Cleveland
Speaker 1: or Matt Can the Calves extend the series back to MSG?
Speaker 4: That's a tough call, the nix of them. Brunt I mean,
Speaker 4: I just I want to shout out Brunson man. I
Speaker 4: just I always knew he was a good player, but
Speaker 4: to see what his departure from Dallas has done and
Speaker 4: what his arrival in New York has done has been incredible.
Speaker 5: I don't think anyone saw him being this.
Speaker 4: Pivotal, you know, with all due respect, and you know,
Speaker 4: everyone said, like, you know, oh, they're paying him one
Speaker 4: hundred million. I think he's underpaid and I've said this
Speaker 4: a handful of times since like he's underpaid. This next
Speaker 4: contract is going to be bigger, so first of all,
Speaker 4: want to shout him out. It's going to be interesting,
Speaker 4: I think for them for the for the Knicks to
Speaker 4: close out Cleveland on Cleveland's home court, Julius Randall has
Speaker 4: to show up to this series. Obviously, he had a
Speaker 4: great season, but a bad, bad ankle sprain coming into
Speaker 4: this playoffs, and I think he's kind of been a
Speaker 4: shell of himself, settling for jumpers, maybe because his ankle
Speaker 4: isn't as strong it is as it needs to be
Speaker 4: for him to get downhill. But I think in order
Speaker 4: for this team to close out Cleveland in Cleveland, it's
Speaker 4: going to have to ride on Julius Randall because I
Speaker 4: pretty much feel like, you know what everyone else is
Speaker 4: going to give you. You know, Brunton is a gamer
Speaker 4: of Mitchell's coming off a bad game at the Garden,
Speaker 4: so you know he wants to get back to the
Speaker 4: crib and and really show up and show out. So
Speaker 4: I would give the nod to Cleveland right now because
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be easier for Donovan Mitchell
Speaker 4: to turn it on at home than Julius Randa to
Speaker 4: kind of find his rhythm.
Speaker 6: Mitchell going out like this, frankly.
Speaker 1: I mean, I still would think New York is going
Speaker 1: to win the series, but a gentleman sweep losing it.
Speaker 6: Home, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that Donovan Mitchell is gonna come up,
Speaker 1: show up big, and and then you know, take the
Speaker 1: series back to New York and then I see the
Speaker 1: next closing it.
Speaker 6: Out, but we'll see.
Speaker 1: That's why why they play the games. I want to
Speaker 1: get to Lakers grizz too. Four point favorites. Do you
Speaker 1: think that's going to happen? Or do you think Lebron
Speaker 1: sends Dylan Brooks and company to Can't Coot? This is
Speaker 1: a tough one for me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Memphis as long as you know John
Speaker 4: took a few falls last game, scary falls if he can,
Speaker 4: if he's going to be on the court, I give
Speaker 4: Memphis the edge in Game five, and then the Lakers
Speaker 4: got to finish it home because Memphis is one of
Speaker 4: the loudest arenas in the world, and you don't want
Speaker 4: to have to go back for a Game seven. So
Speaker 4: it'll be a Game seven even though it's Game six.
Speaker 5: In LA.
Speaker 4: I give the nod as long as Joss playing. I
Speaker 4: give the nod to Memphis going home and protecting home
Speaker 4: and then having to come back to LA and pretty
Speaker 4: much play.
Speaker 5: It's going to be a Game seven for the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's gonna be interesting too if that series keeps
Speaker 1: extending because they play more often now, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: they were playing at big breaks in the beginning part
Speaker 1: of the series.
Speaker 6: Now they're going to start playing every other day. That
Speaker 6: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Travel is going to go back and forth, so an
Speaker 1: older team could get more tired. It's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: to see. But I think Memphis is favored for the
Speaker 1: right reasons.
Speaker 6: We'll have to see real quick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rach, before we jump, I want to go back
Speaker 4: to that Madison Garden crowd. How great is it to
Speaker 4: just see them going nuts and being loud and then
Speaker 4: being star studded. I mean, I'm really happy for the
Speaker 4: Knicks and what they've been able to do for their
Speaker 4: fan base, because we all know that's one of the craziest, wildest, disrespectful,
Speaker 4: greatest intelligent fan bases there is. And the fact that
Speaker 4: they are rocking in New York.
Speaker 1: I just think you imagine if things continue the way
Speaker 1: they're going and it's Nick's heat in the second round.
Speaker 6: No, yes, how insane is that going to be?
Speaker 1: And I want to see all the old guys from
Speaker 1: both sides coming back and sitting in the crowd.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they all got to show up.
Speaker 1: I want to see that Van Gundylons of Warning tape
Speaker 1: over and over and over again.
Speaker 6: I want the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Getting ahead of ourselves, obviously, but the way both series
Speaker 1: are trending as we said here, I mean, I just
Speaker 1: think the garden would be happened Ogrer your series. Getting
Speaker 1: back to that Warriors Kings. Warriors are four point favorites
Speaker 1: with that deer and Fox injury.
Speaker 6: That's how the swing was.
Speaker 1: The Kings were favorited, and then as soon as that
Speaker 1: news broke, it swing right over back to the Warriors.
Speaker 1: So you didn't quite make a call before. I want
Speaker 1: to know who takes the game. Give me one team
Speaker 1: or the other.
Speaker 4: If the Aaron Fox plays, I'm going with the Kings.
Speaker 4: If Dearon Fox sits out, this series is going to
Speaker 4: be over. And I think Sacramento fans even know that.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's been so instrumental for this team on
Speaker 4: both ends of the floor again going shot for shot
Speaker 4: with one of the greatest players we've ever seen in
Speaker 4: Steph Curry and and out dueling them some of these games.
Speaker 4: So I think his availability is going to be the key,
Speaker 4: hopefully that you know it's been I'm sure it's been
Speaker 4: around the clock treatment. He may have to shoot, shoot something,
Speaker 4: you know, he takes some kind of shot to be
Speaker 4: able to get out there. But I think if he's
Speaker 4: able to play, he will play. He knows how important
Speaker 4: this is. And I saw something mad at him and
Speaker 4: I haven't seen that, that back and forth between him
Speaker 4: and Draymond, And because Deeran is such a mild manner, polite,
Speaker 4: quiet guy, but when I saw him throwing cuss words
Speaker 4: and asist and that, I'm like, hell yeah, I knew
Speaker 4: it was in him.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to see it.
Speaker 4: So I hate to see that injury can possibly derail
Speaker 4: uh this team's opportunity. But I got Sacramento de.
Speaker 1: Wet Our closing thoughts is signing with the Rockets. Look,
Speaker 1: you thought Matt the Rockets needed a players coach for
Speaker 1: such a young team.
Speaker 6: Is he may the right guy?
Speaker 5: UH?
Speaker 4: Is is different goes about I think he's a players coach,
Speaker 4: but he's he's going to be more. He's going to
Speaker 4: stand on it more than And then why am I
Speaker 4: forgetting his name now my former assistant coach, I'm forgetting
Speaker 4: us Steve silas coach Silace. I think it's a it's
Speaker 4: a solid move, you know what I mean. May, He's
Speaker 4: as a head coach was great. You know, just his
Speaker 4: off the court stuff is kind of what got him
Speaker 4: in some hot water. But I mean, you can't take
Speaker 4: anything away from what he did to that to that
Speaker 4: Boston team. Although there had a lot of talent, he
Speaker 4: was the driving force kind of building that foundation.
Speaker 5: And you remember.
Speaker 4: Boston was terrible the first half of the season and
Speaker 4: they finally bought into what I May was preaching and
Speaker 4: they hit that stride in January and made a tremendous run.
Speaker 4: So I think is a great coach. I think obviously
Speaker 4: some off the court stuff has kind of derailed that.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, this Houston team
Speaker 4: is a young team and they need someone who is
Speaker 4: going to be more vocal, more stern, almost an asshole
Speaker 4: to kind of get these young guys in line, because
Speaker 4: there's a lot of young hotheads that are very talented
Speaker 4: over there with no direction, and you hear and I
Speaker 4: have people over there saying, you know that management told
Speaker 4: coach Silace to take it easy on on Jalen Green
Speaker 4: ye a quorter and all that kind of stuff. So
Speaker 4: I may is not the kind of guy that's going
Speaker 4: to stand down to anybody. He'll swing on somebody if needed.
Speaker 4: So I hope that he is a coach that can
Speaker 4: build a foundation because I like the young talent over there.
Speaker 5: They just don't have.
Speaker 6: It's going to be a huge swing of the ping
Speaker 6: pong balls.
Speaker 1: You know. If they end up getting Victor webin Yama,
Speaker 1: then the entire situation changes. If they don't, that is
Speaker 1: it's a whole different thing for him. But I'm very
Speaker 1: interested to see what he's going to do before we go.
Speaker 1: I want to shout out Ann Edwards. Five thirty point
Speaker 1: games and only ten postseason appearances. That is absolute madness.
Speaker 1: The only other player to reach that number Kobe Bean Bryant.
Speaker 1: What do you think Ann Edwards steiling is matt because
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous what we've.
Speaker 6: Seen so far.
Speaker 4: I mean to think that, you know, there was a
Speaker 4: real debate where people thought that you know, and I
Speaker 4: love LaMelo. That LaMelo was. You know, he won Rookie
Speaker 4: of the Year. Anthony Edwards is a superstar in the making.
Speaker 4: He's got the charisma and the character off the court
Speaker 4: to continue to make his you know, his his his
Speaker 4: his play on the court that much better because I
Speaker 4: feel like his personality matches how good he is as
Speaker 4: a player. To be only twenty one, we obviously know
Speaker 4: is his team. The sky is the limit for Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4: I mean, he's and I think two. Once he understands
Speaker 4: that he can lock up on defense, because he is
Speaker 4: one of the greatest athletes this game has ever seen.
Speaker 4: Once he starts to playing hisself on the defensive end,
Speaker 4: the league is in trouble.
Speaker 1: League may already be in trouble when he's on the court.
Speaker 1: I've been so blown away by him.
Speaker 2: He is.
Speaker 1: He is just so much fun too. So I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward tomorrow. I know that we probably won't get him
Speaker 1: much longer in the playoffs, but still pretty good. All right,
Speaker 1: Before we go to I want to just play a
Speaker 1: little bit. We got on headliners this week. We got
Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade as the guest and Matt you got to
Speaker 1: hear this. He was explaining to me what happened at
Speaker 1: his draft party. You know part of that, of course.
Speaker 1: Incredible two thousand and three draft class gets picked fifth
Speaker 1: overall by the Miami Heat. He's in Chicago, he's a
Speaker 1: young kid. He's really excited, and take a listen to
Speaker 1: what happened. And it was amazing to me on draft night,
Speaker 1: because you're in Chicago, you have your party.
Speaker 6: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't know if this story is true.
Speaker 6: I know I've heard you tell.
Speaker 3: It, but.
Speaker 5: Why it ain't true?
Speaker 1: It's too crazy.
Speaker 5: Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: Someone comes up to says.
Speaker 7: My cousin in the party, my cousin Antoine Wade, which
Speaker 7: you know n Twine shout out to Antoine. He came
Speaker 7: up to me and he said, Bro, Michael Jordan is here.
Speaker 7: And I said, where is he at?
Speaker 1: You hadn't met him. You're a kid in Chicago who
Speaker 1: grew up watching the Bolts, and your cousin says Michael Jordan.
Speaker 7: Michael, so I think he's playing games with me. So
Speaker 7: I'm like, where he at? Yeah, and he's like he's outside.
Speaker 5: They won't let him in.
Speaker 7: Now I'm like this, He's he's like, bro, I'm not playing,
Speaker 7: and I was like, okay, so let's go. So we
Speaker 7: being lining out the club. Right right out the doors,
Speaker 7: it's a slew of motorcycles and Michael Jordan is sitting
Speaker 7: right there on one of the motorcycles, right up to
Speaker 7: him like it was like seeing like a ghost. And
Speaker 7: I went right up to him and he said, he
Speaker 7: was like, I just wanted to come and show you
Speaker 7: some love. Like he was, he was a little felt.
Speaker 7: He felt the way I don't know why they want
Speaker 7: to let Mike in you have fifty people with him.
Speaker 7: But yeah, he was outside, he was on a motorcycle
Speaker 7: and he said, I was coming through the show you
Speaker 7: some love, congratulations, you know, and the whole welcome to
Speaker 7: the NBA type of thing.
Speaker 5: And so that's a true story.
Speaker 7: That was my first time meeting Michael Jordan, and it
Speaker 7: was the coolest experience ever. He was sitting on a
Speaker 7: motorcycle looking cooliest.
Speaker 4: So you're trying to tell me that a bouncer didn't
Speaker 4: let Michael Jordan anywhere, let alone Dwyane Wade Draft party
Speaker 4: but anywhere. Yeah, hopefully that guy got fired. But Rach,
Speaker 4: how has it been. I mean, obviously your new show
Speaker 4: headliner shout out to you. I'm so excited to kind
Speaker 4: of see you back in your element. But I mean,
Speaker 4: you don't fuck around. I mean, right from the jump,
Speaker 4: you're coming out with Hall of Famer after Hall of
Speaker 4: Famers left and right. How has that experience been, in particular, how.
Speaker 6: Was the de fun?
Speaker 1: You know, I covered Dwayne from the moment he was
Speaker 1: drafted on, so it was fun to relive with him
Speaker 1: some of the moments that I walked through throughout both
Speaker 1: of our careers. But he's still telling stories that I've
Speaker 1: never heard before, which is what's been really fun about
Speaker 1: the show. It's one of the great parts of all
Speaker 1: the smoke is get some of that stuff that just
Speaker 1: hasn't come out in the media before. There's a story
Speaker 1: he tells about him and Lebron James after they lost
Speaker 1: that twenty eleven finals where things went so bad for them.
Speaker 1: Lebron's flinging himself off a balcony into a pool, just
Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy shit.
Speaker 6: So I like when you have these longer form opportunities
Speaker 6: to be able to really.
Speaker 1: Dive deep into what guys are thinking and what they're doing,
Speaker 1: and to catch a guy like Dwayne Wade, who is
Speaker 1: about to walk into the Hall of Fame, came up in.
Speaker 6: A really difficult situation.
Speaker 1: Grew up, you know, his first ten years in a
Speaker 1: gang riddled part of Chicago.
Speaker 6: His mom, who by the way, is amazing.
Speaker 1: His mom has come back and her life and become
Speaker 1: a real advocate and speaker and helped all sorts of
Speaker 1: people with drug addictions because she was there.
Speaker 6: She was a heroin addict. She was a coke addict.
Speaker 1: Dwayne was talking in this interview about how he didn't
Speaker 1: know if his mom was coming home for days at
Speaker 1: a time or not. And he's eight years old lying
Speaker 1: in the bed, couldn't sleep because his mother isn't there
Speaker 1: and he doesn't know if she's dead or not on
Speaker 1: the street. And so the fact that he was able
Speaker 1: to come through that to become a Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: basketball player, I think it was just amazing to sit
Speaker 1: with him in chat. So I'm excited for people to
Speaker 1: see this interview. I think it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun Thursday nights on Showtime and then it's on streaming.
Speaker 1: It's on Showtime, it's on Paramount, the whole deal right
Speaker 1: next to on streaming on paramount and Showtime is some
Speaker 1: all best of all spokes, so I'm in good company there.
Speaker 4: Congratulations. I'm really excited for you. I can't wait to
Speaker 4: watch that episode. And the fact you mentioned, I mean,
Speaker 4: obviously we know Dwayne's accolades as a player, but a
Speaker 4: better person, which is, you know, I've got a chance
Speaker 4: to know him, and he doesn't live too far from me,
Speaker 4: and we've we've got a chance to hang out a
Speaker 4: lot post careerge just a really good person too, which
Speaker 4: is which makes him even you know, his his his
Speaker 4: legacy as a player better to me.
Speaker 1: Am in for that, all right, guys, What's burning available
Speaker 1: every week on Showtime Basketball, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram at TikTok
Speaker 1: at show Basketball Matt Barnes.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: You can catch Matt Barnes on all of the Sacramento
Speaker 1: Warriors series. I can't wait to see up there again
Speaker 1: in a day or two.
Speaker 5: All guys, thank you,