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Speaker 1: that talk is going to be with Raiders GM John Spytek,

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Speaker 1: Tech about everything from being a GM to obviously draft

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Speaker 1: Let's dive into the interview. Okay, very excited to have

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Speaker 1: a man who's lived a pretty crazy football life so far.

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Speaker 1: He was named in late January. The general manager of

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Speaker 1: Dread is John Spytech.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, man, I'm doing great, John, Thanks for

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Speaker 3: having me on the pot today.

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Speaker 1: You know what's crazy? I was I was looking. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so you still got a lot of football left, but

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Speaker 1: your football life. You get hired by Andy Reid as

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Speaker 3: You can pinch me a little bit with that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I actually hadn't even in my head. I hadn't even

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Speaker 3: added Pete Carroll to that dock. Again, since we're getting

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Speaker 1: Same thing with the coaching staff, right, wasn't John Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: You know, you played at Michigan, so it's not like

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Speaker 1: Obviously there's not much money coming along with it. Not

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Speaker 3: It was actually a pay increase for me when I

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Speaker 3: can remember John thinking back to like, they offered me

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Speaker 1: Well, it was there time. I mean, I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: Because at first you're just kind of swim and keep

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Speaker 3: like that's where I kind of felt like about six

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Speaker 1: You know, I've heard Sean McVay talk about this. I

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Speaker 1: think I saw Mike McDaniel talk about this too, Like

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Speaker 1: their body language like affected everyone else. Because when you're

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Speaker 1: about yourself. And I think it's probably fair to say,

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Speaker 1: you're just so focused on the board or the free

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Speaker 1: How he looked at me weird, Oh he's really pissed off.

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Speaker 1: but you know, you're pretty you've been around the block

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Speaker 1: a few times, around a lot of people. Is that

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Speaker 1: and Pete, it's not just you know, you're just one

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Speaker 3: That's a great question. I don't necessarily think of it

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Speaker 3: aware of my job is no longer just to kind

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Speaker 3: I haven't really been caught off guard by too many things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's a confidence in at least in

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Speaker 1: Obviously, the number changes during the season because you have injuries,

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Speaker 3: well let's not. Let's stop doing the things that don't

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Speaker 3: We lost Jordan White ahead, we lost Alex Kappa, we

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Speaker 1: One thing I think I saw you might have meant

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Speaker 1: the combine you were with Florio and you talked about

466
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Speaker 1: how Jason, who's obviously really really good with offensive linemen,

467
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 1: was you know, back to like the Logan Mankins study

468
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: in the mid two thousands. My cousin was actually on

469
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 1: the team in at Frozen State with him. He was

470
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: a long snapper, and I remember going there like Logan

471
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: Mankins is like that Jonathan Ogden a Fresno State, but

472
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: he was a left tackle in college and most people

473
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: didn't think he was gonna play tackle in the pros,

474
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: but he became an you know, Pro Bowl, all pro

475
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 1: level guy. And you guys were unafraid to go to

476
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: smaller schools and take their left tackle and move them

477
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: to any position because that's just where the best player.

478
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,719
Speaker 1: It's like shortstop in little league is that, you know,

479
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: because I would say that the Eagles now their blueprint

480
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 1: is just like Bama Georgia. Don't even mess around that.

481
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: There are multiple ways to skin a cat when it

482
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Speaker 1: comes to scouting. It's not just you have to go

483
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: to Ohio State, bam in Georgia, even though you can't

484
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: really go wrong constantly doing that. I mean, hell, you

485
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: just drafted a guy six overall from a quote unquote

486
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Speaker 1: smaller school.

487
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it was something that works for us. There's,

488
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: like you said, there's a lot of different ways to

489
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: do it. You know when we looked at that. Jason

490
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 3: actually started that before I got there with Ali Marpette

491
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: and that was the two thousand and probably fifteen draft, right, Yeah,

492
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 3: and you know that worked and then beside Ryan Jensen,

493
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 3: and it's just you kind of have this feel like, hey,

494
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: it's he's not like to your point with Logan Mankins,

495
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: he's not a left tackle or a right tackle body

496
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 3: in the NFL, but he's the best player on his

497
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 3: old line and whatever school he's at, he plays the

498
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 3: most stressful position on the old line, left tackle. And

499
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 3: there's a lot of great qualities to those guys that

500
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: you know, just because physically they don't line up or

501
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 3: you know, get out of the bus off the bus

502
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 3: looking like you want your left tackle to look, it doesn't

503
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 3: mean they're not great players. And so you know, the

504
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: Ryan Jensen's, the Cody Max, the Alex Kappas of the world.

505
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: Graham Barton from Duke, you know, into center last year.

506
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just something that really worked for us.

507
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: And they're guys that are wired the right way. They're

508
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 3: competitive as hell, smart as hell, and you know, I listen,

509
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: we'd all love the draft the best offensive lineman that

510
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: Georgia and Alabama have every year. But the reality is

511
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: you're not going to be able to do that. So

512
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 3: how can you how can you problem solve and line

513
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: up a bunch of guys that go out there and

514
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: as a group probably make up outside of the quarterback,

515
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: one of the most, if not the most important position

516
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 3: group in our game.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about the twenty five draft before we

518
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Speaker 1: get into individual players. Your first draft is a GM

519
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: harder or easier than you thought.

520
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: I didn't have much to compare it to. It was.

521
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 3: It was hard, you know, it was you know, it

522
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: was drinking from a fire hose. I mean, there's there's

523
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: a gift that I kept sending people. How's it going.

524
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: It's Peter Griffin with the fire hose up to his

525
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: face and the sun turns it on into when the

526
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: water stops, it's just to skull and a bunch of

527
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: blood dripping down his neck. But you know, it was awesome.

528
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I loved it. I love the collaboration with

529
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 3: Pete and the coaching staff. Brandon Jurgen here did a

530
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: great job. Our college scouts kind of dove headfirst into

531
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Speaker 3: what I was asking him to do. And you know,

532
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: I feel good. I feel good about what we were

533
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: able to accomplish in a short period of time, which

534
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Speaker 3: I think, at least for me and I know for

535
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: ourn organization, brings us confidence that as we as we

536
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: work together here with Onboarding, Brian Starkin, Patch and Brandon Hunting,

537
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: all these guys from really winning organizations, we can do

538
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 3: we can do really great things here because to me,

539
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 3: and I've said it many times, the draft, if you

540
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: can if you can win at the draft, if you

541
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: can do better than your you know, the other teams

542
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: of the draft, that's how you build and a great

543
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Speaker 3: team and then sustain it. Well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, one advantage you have getting this job is

545
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: because the Raiders record last year, You're drafting high in

546
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 1: this draft, and the other three teams in your division

547
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: are drafting later. So I mean, who knows how it's

548
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 1: going to play at the next couple of years. But

549
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: right now, for this upcoming season, the next couple of years,

550
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: you have access to just players that they don't. Did you,

551
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: did you feel like tangible pressure just based on the

552
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: division alone, and just know the daunting task that is

553
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: ahead you.

554
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Speaker 3: First of all, I hope this is the last time

555
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: we pick in front of those guys. You know, I

556
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: don't want to pick up here anymore. But if given

557
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 3: the opportunity to pick in the top ten, we got

558
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: to We've got to be We've got to find an

559
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: elite player, and we've got to find an elite person.

560
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 3: And I think that that kind of goes with any round,

561
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: but you know, there's a heightened energy to it when

562
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: it's when it's in the top ten. I mean, you better,

563
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: in my opinion, you better be greedy about the kind

564
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: of player you're looking at, and greedy about the kind

565
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 3: of competitor and person and you know, passionate football player

566
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 3: that you're looking for. And so we found that in

567
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Speaker 3: Ashton in our opinion. You know, some people maybe don't

568
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 3: value the running back to a certain degree. I don't know.

569
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 3: I didn't imady to lose, so I went to Michigan.

570
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: We value the hell out of those guys. And he's

571
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 3: more importantly to me. He's a great kid. You know,

572
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: he he was revered in that Boise State program because

573
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 3: he treated people the right way and was a great

574
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: running back. And he's been every bit of that since

575
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: he's shown up here too. When you talk to people

576
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: around you know, our building right now, the first thing

577
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: they talk about with Ashton isn't how fast he is

578
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 3: or the fact that you know you can't get him

579
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 3: on you know, he never falls over. It's that man.

580
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: Is he humble and he's he's a great worker and

581
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: treats his teammates the right way, you.

582
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Speaker 1: Know, full disclosure. I was one of those people that

583
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: just when you look at the draft historically, right, you know,

584
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: taking a guy in a deep running back class and listen,

585
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm a whack Mountain West guy I at Revere Boise State,

586
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: and his story speaks for itself. I mean, he turned

587
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: down who knows how much money to stay at Boise State.

588
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: The character the you watch him on TV, it was

589
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: like a video game. But I mean, I'm sure you

590
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: guys had the conversation about balancing like the running back position.

591
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: We could get a guy in different rounds, but in

592
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: this individual draft was it just like this guy's too

593
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: good And clearly the quote unquote level of competition didn't

594
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: phase you. I guess just the scouting process on this player.

595
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: Because when you were in Tampa, I remember watching an

596
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: Oregon game had to be like week two. You were

597
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: probably asleep because it was like eleven thirty at night

598
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: Pacific standard time, and he's rushing for like seven hundred yards.

599
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: I mean legitimately went for two hundred dards against number

600
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: one team in the country, your scouting process when you

601
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: were at Tampa and how that translated into following him

602
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: and vetting him before you pulled the trigger and made

603
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: him a raider.

604
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny things. I'm looking forward to out

605
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: here on the West Coast to seeing all the games now. Yeah,

606
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: waking up on Sunday morning and checking box scores and

607
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: being like, gosh, and had two oh six on Oregon

608
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: last night and I was, you know, I've been asleep

609
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 3: for three hours. You know, to your question, it's about

610
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 3: team building and what's the right way to do it.

611
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 3: And we had many conversations because it was a deep

612
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 3: running back class, like what's the best order to do

613
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: this in you know, if we take Ashton here, who

614
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 3: do we get in the second round. If we take

615
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: this player here, then maybe we can come back in

616
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 3: the second round getting running back. And you know this

617
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: group of players, you know, this position group, you know,

618
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 3: the more premier positions at rusher tackle, you know they're

619
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 3: going to probably be gone. Ultimately, obviously we decided that

620
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 3: Ashton was worth it, and to me, it's the kind

621
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 3: of person he is that that elevated it. Finally, we

622
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: were we can't we can't turn down twenty eight yards

623
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: short of Barry Sanders and a great humble person at six.

624
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I I'd wake up every go I go

625
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: to bed every Sunday night wondering what Ashton Genty did

626
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: somewhere else in the NFL. Ultimately if we didn't take them,

627
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: and there was just a lot of motivation from the

628
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: way that we saw, the way that Pete wants to

629
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 3: build a team, the way that you know that Seattle

630
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 3: franchise change when when Marshawn Lynn showed up. Now I'm

631
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: not saying he's at Marshawn Lynch. I don't really do comparisons,

632
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: but the idea of this kind of tone setter in

633
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: the run game and the amount of times he's going

634
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: to touch the ball really matters to our program.

635
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,719
Speaker 1: When was a specific time that you felt comfortable in

636
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: the process when you were the GM they're like, Okay,

637
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: if he's there, we're gonna we're going to pull the

638
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: trigger and take him. Was there a moment either at

639
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: his pro day or sitting in the office with Pete

640
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: a week before and maybe you've talked about this already,

641
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: but where you just obviously he was growing on you

642
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: as you get to know the guy the visits the combine,

643
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: but just like, Okay, we have no problem pulling the

644
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: trigger if he's sitting there for us at six.

645
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a big believer in using the entire process.

646
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: So from the combine interview to the pro day that

647
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: I went to, spoke with the head coach for quite

648
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: a long time, watched Ashton move through that building. You know,

649
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: he came on our top thirty visit. He was great

650
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,719
Speaker 3: in the building. So it was just kind of like checkbox, checkbox, checkbox,

651
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 3: And we had a lot of great visits with a

652
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: lot of great guys, and we had a lot of

653
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: great options out there. But as we talked about it

654
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: and visited with the staff and explained the idea to ownership,

655
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: it just became clear that if he was there, he

656
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: was going to be our guy. He was the right

657
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: kind of person for us at this moment and with

658
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 3: the way that we want to build this and you know,

659
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: he's he's just been an achiever everywhere and he's a

660
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: passionate football guy. And I think one of my my

661
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: two favorite things, may be bottom are the fact that

662
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: he didn't leave Boise. You know, they were the ones

663
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: that gave him the offer. He's a loyal guy. That

664
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 3: to me, if you track those guys over the past

665
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 3: couple of years that have done that, Quinia and Mitchell

666
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: was another one there. They're the right kind of dude,

667
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: Drake May, Yeah, they're the right kind of dude. And

668
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: Graham Barton was that for us, and you know, he

669
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: could have gone to a lot of different places, he

670
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: told us, and he's like, no, I'm a stay a dude,

671
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 3: Like they're the ones who believed in me, like to me,

672
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: like that stuff matters. And then the idea that he

673
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: he he was playing as a freshman in Naples, Italy

674
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: and just dying to play football. So I found the

675
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: place because his dad was you know, stationed over there

676
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 3: as part of the Navy and playing against Naples Italy.

677
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: And then his dad, you know, finishes his military career

678
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: and they're like, where should we go, And they're like,

679
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: let's go to Frisco, Texas for the football's great. I

680
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: want to compete against the best people in the country.

681
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: I mean, that's who the kid is to his core.

682
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: And so when it gets hard around here and hot

683
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: around here, I don't see a kid that will bat

684
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: and I see a kid that I'll just buckle down

685
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: and play.

686
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: Four of your next five picks after genty were offense,

687
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: two wide receivers, two offensive linemen. Are you just to

688
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: purely let the board speak to me? Was there a

689
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: need on offense at the skill position with the wide

690
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: receivers just philosophically? Is that just somewhat random and that's

691
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: just how the board fell? Or was that an emphasis

692
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: going into the draft? Do we need a little more

693
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: skill and definitely some guys in the trenches on offense.

694
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really was how the board fell. I've made

695
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: it no secret that I love lineman and I know

696
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: Pete does too. I mean, this game's about the trenches.

697
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: But you know, we have a great process that I

698
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: learned in Tampa and have refined and added to the

699
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: way we do it here. We stack everything from you know,

700
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 3: quality of players, quality of person, scout evaluation, coach evaluation, injury,

701
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: character and as the board goes, we just pulled the

702
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 3: top name off the board and turns out that it

703
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: was five or six guys run offense. Still like how

704
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: we came back on day three with Taka and JJ

705
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 3: Pageese and guys are doing really well. Right now. So

706
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: I just tried to pick the best player for the

707
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: Raiders every opportunity.

708
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: That we had, you know, speaking alignment. When you guys

709
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: got the job and you guys did that dual press conference,

710
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: I think Max was in the back and at the

711
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: time it was kind of being conversated about like, it's

712
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: just is he gonna get traded? Is he gonna ask

713
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: for a trade? What's gonna go on? And obviously Max

714
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: Crosby is probably one of the more respected guys in

715
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: the league just from a player and coaching executive standpoint.

716
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: People just love the way he plays. Was that just

717
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: something under no circumstance, We're just gonna find a way

718
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: to keep Max Crosby here? Or were there just serious

719
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: conversations you had with him at first before about a

720
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: month later, you know, give him one hundred million dollars.

721
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: Oh he just body when Pete and I studied the

722
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: roster and listen, I mean, you do what I do.

723
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 3: You you have a lot of you know, in Tampa,

724
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: I watched the whole league. I mean, just so much

725
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: respect for Max and the way he competes and plays

726
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: the game on a day to day basis or a

727
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 3: game to game basis, play to play basis. I mean,

728
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 3: he's a guy plays one hundred percent of the snaps

729
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: at a high effort physical position. I mean it's really

730
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: unheard of, and it just became clear. I visited with Max,

731
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: but pretty much the first week I had the job

732
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: that this is the kind of guy that we want

733
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: to build this program around. And I mean sure that

734
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 3: there's plenty of people that you're a new GM and

735
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: they want to see if they can shake your trees

736
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: and see if they can steal somebody from you, and

737
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: you know, maybe or maybe not. Jason Lake tried to

738
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: get him before I even got on a jet to Vegas.

739
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: How many?

740
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: How many? How many GMS called? Were you just like, man,

741
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm hanging up right now.

742
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: Would Yeah, it was. Jason was sitting in my house

743
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 3: telling me like, Max for a fifth sounds great right

744
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: now for everything I've done for you in my life.

745
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, Jason, don't get me fired so

746
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: I can come right back to Tampa. I mean, at

747
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: least give me a real shot here. But he just

748
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: is what we we want to be, you know. I

749
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 3: mean when I when I sat with him, he asked like,

750
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: what can I do? To be better. And I said, Max,

751
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: this might be controversial, but maybe maybe we don't play

752
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: one hundred percent of the snaps, you know, maybe we

753
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 3: played ninety five percent of the snaps, so of the

754
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: biggest moments, you're fresh. And he was like, ah, kills

755
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 3: me to come off the field, Like, that's that's what

756
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 3: we want. When we traded for JPP and in Tampa,

757
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: he was a guy that he'd fight you to come

758
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: off if you try to take him off the field.

759
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: And when you're when you're trying to flip cultures like this,

760
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: we need more guys like that. We need guys that

761
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: are like, you gotta you gotta kill me not to

762
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: be out there. I gotta be really hurt not to

763
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: be out there. Otherwise I don't care. I'm gonna give

764
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 3: it my best every play. And you know, I just

765
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 3: I just didn't think. Pete didn't think really nobody thought

766
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: that the Raiders are a better team if we move

767
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: on from Max Crosby. And so we felt like giving

768
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: him his new deal that was earned and something that

769
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: we were motivated to do.

770
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: Speaking a guy that doesn't like coming off the field. Uh,

771
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was a guy you guys signed in Tampa.

772
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: I think Operation Shoeless Joe is what you called that thing.

773
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: There was just Dan POMPEII does when he does an article.

774
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 1: He did one about the DC Spagnola in Kansas City

775
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: and one on you and Tom's relationship. Both of them

776
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: two of the better things I've read that in the

777
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: last probably year. You know, there's that famous clip on

778
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: NFL Films where Brady's sitting in Belichick's office and it

779
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: came out like he basically went in there on a

780
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: Monday or Tuesday every year of his career, every week

781
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: leading in and you became Belichick essentially correct.

782
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 3: You did say that. No, no, no, no, I'm.

783
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: Just saying you played that role of going over the opponent. Yeah,

784
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 2: can you tell me about the nerves of that first

785
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: week one twenty twenty meeting of presenting.

786
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: It was it Tuesday afternoon when you and Tom would

787
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: meet or was it Monday?

788
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, it was Tuesday Monday, depending on you know,

789
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: the kind of the schedule for that week in the

790
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: cadence for that week. And yeah, Jason Kingman said, you

791
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 3: know they used to do that, and I'd seen all

792
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: them and I had consumed all those things. That came

793
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: out and to do your job post Super Bowl. So

794
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: I was aware of that this could be a possibility.

795
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 3: I don't think really anything prepares you for it. When

796
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: I mean everyone says we were teammates in Michigan, Yeah,

797
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: we were teammates. I mean we hadn't really spoken in

798
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 3: twenty whatever years it was up to that point. So

799
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 3: it wasn't like, this is my friend walking in the

800
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: building and we're just going to shoot the anyway. So

801
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: he was likely you got to do this, and you

802
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: know it's got to be good, and here's kind of

803
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: the format that they used in New England, and you

804
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 3: know you can put your spin out it however you want.

805
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: And so I had Rob McCartney, the new assistant GM there,

806
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: joined me because Rob's a wealth of knowledge and excellent

807
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: in his job. And thought like, you know, maybe probably

808
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: better to have two people here for Tom than just one.

809
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: And I just remember thinking, like, you know, he's like,

810
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 3: all right, babe, one He always called me babe. One o'clock,

811
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 3: I'll be up there in the draft room. And he

812
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: walked and I remember thinking to myself, like all right,

813
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: and just let it rip. And we talked about Marshaan

814
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: Latimore and Mario Davis and Janoris Jenkins and you know

815
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 3: all the Marcus Williams and all the great players at

816
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: the Saints Hacks. That's we played week one and he

817
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: walked out and I was like, well, we'll see if

818
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 3: he comes back. He came back the next week, and

819
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 3: so even though we didn't win and he threw two picks,

820
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: and but you know, there was it was It was

821
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: such a fun conversation because his rollodex of players is great.

822
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: You know, when you when you tell Tom like, hey,

823
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 3: this is a great corner, he goes, well, is the

824
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: drel Reeves? Well, no, it's a great safety. It was

825
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: Edrie de Troy, Paulamalu. No, but he's good, you know,

826
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: you know, and so we always had a fun back

827
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: and forth with that.

828
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: Was there a moment like the Hecker moment during that

829
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: first season where you're like, Okay, we're on the same

830
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: page here, he respects me. I feel good. I'm not

831
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: maybe quote unquote nervous going in or every week you

832
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: felt like the ex because by then, I mean he's

833
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: freaking Tom Brady, right. Yeah, So was there ever a

834
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: moment or were you just were you always kind of

835
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: just pretty on edge going into that meeting because of

836
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 1: the just intensity of the guy. Or was he more

837
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: chill in that environment.

838
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: I would not call him chill in that environment. I would.

839
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: You know, we had it. We had great football conversations,

840
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: but always passionate, always direct. You know, there's always it

841
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 3: was almost like going to a game. There was always

842
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: butterflies because you know, the the gravity of it. I mean,

843
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 3: it became less about talking to you know this this

844
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 3: you know quarterback. It became more about, like, how can

845
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 3: I help the Bucks be their best every Sunday? And

846
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: if I can give Tom the information that he needs

847
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 3: in a manner of which he can process it, compartmentalizing

848
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: that use it as necessary that that was the most

849
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 3: important thing to Robin myself. And it kind of came

850
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 3: about learning the way that he liked things, the order

851
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: in which he liked at house, to describe the player

852
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: to him so he could use it, you know. And

853
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: there was a couple times throughout that year that we

854
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 3: attacked a certain player that we told him to attack

855
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 3: that works, and you know, he never said anything. I

856
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 3: didn't know that that was the reason that our meeting

857
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: was the reason that he did it or they did it,

858
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: but I didn't know that it wasn't. And one of

859
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: the most poignant John, one of those poignant moments of

860
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: my career was standing on the sidelines in Washington and

861
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: Aaron andover before we were about to kick off against

862
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: the football team at the time, and he he was

863
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 3: reading something on the bench and we got the ball first.

864
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: He was reading something on the bench and then he

865
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: put his helmet out and threw it down, put his

866
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: helmet on and walked on the field and he was

867
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: reading the write up that we had printed for him.

868
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 3: And that to me was like wow, Like the last

869
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: thing he did before he walked on the field to

870
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: start our playoff run was read the read the little

871
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 3: writeups we did and all the Washington DB's, And that

872
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 3: to me was a pretty surreal experience.

873
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: I mean, who would have thought. I mean, did you

874
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: realize at the time, Like four or five years later.

875
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what colleague, your boss you want to consider,

876
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: but like your friend, you know the relationship that you

877
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: guys have developed, because like you said, you were at

878
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: Michigan with him, but it wasn't you were a walk on.

879
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: You were young, he was old.

880
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: I wasn't a walk on, hold on, hold on.

881
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't Okay Scott Schollege Scholarge Scholegue scholarship.

882
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: I didn't have a decorated career, but I did. I

883
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 3: wasn't good enough high school player to get a scholarship.

884
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: It does say undrafted on your wiki page. Did you

885
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 2: get an invite to a camp?

886
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: I went to grad school. I went and got my

887
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,280
Speaker 3: master's degree in sports management because I'm a smart Michigan dude.

888
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: So I guess in twenty twenty five, how would you

889
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: describe your relationship with Tom?

890
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's probably all those things that you said,

891
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, at the end of the day,

892
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: like I'm not in this job because I'm his friend,

893
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 3: or we had a you know, a good time and

894
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl together necessarily in Tampa. I feel

895
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 3: like he gave me an opportunity to come interview for

896
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 3: your job because he thought that, you know, I could

897
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 3: help him and coach build something that that our our

898
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 3: fan base deserves and that this this larger organization deserves,

899
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: which is a winner that I had, you know, done

900
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 3: it at the highest levels that we had, We had

901
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: sustained Sasin Tampa, which is what we're looking to do

902
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: and ultimately, like, we've got a job to do here,

903
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 3: and that's that's the most important thing that matters. I mean,

904
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 3: this is a results driven business. There's nobody great There's

905
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 3: no greater winner in our game than Tom Brady and

906
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: that's what he expects every day. And that's why I'm here,

907
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: and that's why Coach is here, and that's why everybody

908
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: that we've brought in since we've gotten the job is

909
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: here because we've we've got to win football games and

910
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: we've got to do it soon.

911
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: Do you feel pressure on on that, you know, just winning?

912
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: Maybe now, I don't really look at it like that.

913
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 3: I feel like I got a job to do and

914
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 3: you know, it's easy. Maybe it's easy for me to

915
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: say that right now because we're not about to kick

916
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: off against the Patriots. But I mean, I'm sure there's

917
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: a press you're with it. But I feel prepared, I

918
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 3: feel confident. I feel excited for the challenge that lays

919
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: out in front of us, and it's Coach and I.

920
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: I've got a plan, We're going to execute it and

921
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: we're going to let it rip. And you know, our

922
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 3: expectation is that you see results this year, we see

923
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: progress this year, and we build this this franchise and

924
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: do the winner that we all just that everybody deserves,

925
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Speaker 1: Okay, I got a couple more quarterback questions because I

932
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: know you got actual work to do today. You know,

933
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: you run a football team in the NFL. But you

934
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: were just with Baker Mayfield the last couple of years,

935
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: and I thought last year, I don't know if he's

936
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 1: lost some weight. Obviously he's had a baby. His maturation,

937
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: he's become one of the better plays in the league.

938
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: I thought he was awesome. But I mean two years

939
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: ago when you signed him, at least from the outside,

940
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: there was a quarterback competition with Kyle Trask. So what

941
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: did you see from that guy that you signed for

942
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: I think four million dollars, you know, to compete for

943
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: a job to what by the end of last year,

944
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: everyone considers them. I don't know a top six, seven

945
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: eight quarterback in the NFL and clearly like the heartbeat

946
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 1: of your team.

947
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a competition in twenty twenty three, and

948
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 3: that was a close competition. And I think the thing

949
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: that I respect most about Baker is he didn't come

950
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 3: in with any kind of attitude other than I'm here

951
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: to compete. I'm here to give you guys my best

952
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna let it rip. And him and Kyle

953
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 3: went back and forth for a while and then really

954
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: Baker found his rhythm kind of halfway through the camp

955
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: and just let it rip. And you know, I've got

956
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: the most respect for Baker because he's survived a bunch

957
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: of different adversity in his life and I think each

958
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: time he's grown from it. You know, there's a there's

959
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 3: a self awareness to him that I think is probably underappreciated,

960
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: and he he is all those things that you want

961
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: as a quarterback. He can throw it, he's accurate, he's

962
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: really tough. If if he's a little dinged up and

963
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: he's gonna miss the practice or sit out of a practice,

964
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: you can walk by and give him a little bit

965
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: of grief and he kind of bows up on you

966
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 3: and says I'm gonna go out there and watch this,

967
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: And the trainer's going like, what what did you do

968
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 3: that for? Don't he needs to he needs to rest

969
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: a little bit. And I, you know, I just his

970
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 3: maturity I think stood out. You know, he had his

971
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: he had his baby, he's they're making Tampa their home,

972
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: and I just I got so much respect for him.

973
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 3: The way he handled himself from the moment he walked

974
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 3: in to the to the doors at one Buck has

975
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: been exemplary. And the guys, the guys up front, the

976
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: guys and the team, they love him for that. And

977
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 3: he's authentically who he is and he's a great dude.

978
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: It feels like when Dorsy drafted him number one, a

979
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: lot of it was like the moxie and the intangible stuff,

980
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: which feels like it really came out for you guys

981
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, like that, that version of

982
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: that player that we saw at Oklahoma.

983
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they just you know, really from the start

984
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: with Jason and Todd, they just told him just be yourself.

985
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: You know that you're a good football player. I mean,

986
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: the empower them powered him to be himself to to

987
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: you know, to let it rip and just he's got

988
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 3: a lot of really good players around here. He's got

989
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 3: a great online, he's got a Hall of Fame first

990
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: ballot Hall of Fame receiver, he's got one of the

991
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: other great receivers in Buccaneers history with Chris, and you know,

992
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: just just be yourself and do your job and it'll

993
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: work out. And he has and the results speak for

994
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: themselves last two years.

995
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: The trade for Gino was that something that early on,

996
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, there was rumblings out there that he could

997
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: be available. Obviously, Pete's history with John Schneider and the

998
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: player specifically, probably not your normal trade given that he

999
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: had just coached the guy, make it a little bit

1000
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: easier to pull the trigger with, you know, I mean,

1001
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 1: you're giving up draft capital, taking over a job that

1002
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: you need players just kind of how to that materialize

1003
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: and so far through a couple months of being around

1004
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: and what your experience around Gino Smith, who clearly a

1005
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: lot like Baker, just feels like an easy GUTA roof

1006
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 1: for Yeah.

1007
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: Well, I think from the opening press conference, if I

1008
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 3: remember correctly, it seems like two years ago, but I

1009
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 3: think Pete and I talked about, you know, we'll look,

1010
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: We'll look everywhere for a quarterback. And you know that

1011
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 3: that wasn't just you know, coach speaker GM speak. We

1012
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 3: were serious about it. So we we explored every avenue,

1013
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: we call teams just to see. You know, I'd be

1014
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: embarrassed to tell you some of the players we probably asked,

1015
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 3: called and asked to.

1016
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: Trade for, but you just never even said no one Mahomes.

1017
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 3: We didn't go that far, you know. But with Geno

1018
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: in particular, Pete has a history with him, and he's

1019
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: played his best football for Pete and he played he

1020
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: played well last year too, And so when you have

1021
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean it was a third round pick, but that's

1022
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 3: not a nothing pick. I mean, those are those are

1023
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: valuable picks in a GM's mind, in a scouting staff's mind.

1024
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: And then to give him the contract we had to

1025
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: give him too, I mean, we had a we had

1026
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 3: a look behind the curtain, sent you with Pete to

1027
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: feel really really confident about it, and you know, to

1028
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: to talk to everybody in the building like, hey, this

1029
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 3: is the right this is the right move for the

1030
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: Raiders at this time. And he's been he's been everything

1031
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: that we want him to be. So far's He's been

1032
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: here for every every off season workout that we've had.

1033
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: He's the leader we want. He's always been an extremely

1034
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 3: gifted thrower. You see that every day in camp. And

1035
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 3: you know it's a work in progress with with Chip

1036
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: and the new offense and learning the new players and

1037
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: the new system and having these rookies. We got a

1038
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: lot of rookies that are in with with with snaps

1039
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 3: with Gina right now. But he's been awesome so far,

1040
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: and I'm excited to see him bring this offense to

1041
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: life here coming up in September.

1042
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: Is there an attribute with that position that doesn't get

1043
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: talked about that you guys talk about internally with coaches,

1044
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: scouting staff, that when you listen to podcasts or television

1045
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: shows that you never here discussed that you're like, guys,

1046
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: there's an element. I mean, you've been around Peyton, Tom,

1047
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, Donald McNabb, a lot of h high level

1048
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: players in your life. I don't I don't know if

1049
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: that's a tangible asset attribute or something intangible that just

1050
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 1: you're like, you guys are missing the boat on this one.

1051
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: This is the defining characteristic or one of them that

1052
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: helps lead to success.

1053
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 3: I guess I would say, you know, to that question,

1054
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 3: I'd say work ethic. You know, like Peyton, I've never

1055
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 3: seen anybody that work harder from Monday to Saturday than

1056
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: Peyton and Tom Brady. You know, so they make it

1057
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: look so easy on Sunday because they're so prepared, they're

1058
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: so dialed in, they're so confident in what they're seeing

1059
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 3: and what they're what they're executing, that it's second nature

1060
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 3: to them. They don't they don't take days off, they

1061
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 3: don't leave early and come in late. They their work

1062
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 3: ethic is everything to them, you know. I mean Tom's

1063
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 3: Tom's ability in particular, because I had a front row

1064
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: seat for it, to take in so much information and

1065
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 3: then compartmentalize it and use it when necessary is such

1066
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: a unique trade because so much is demanded of that position.

1067
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you think about it. You break a huddle.

1068
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: You know, you're in New England Week one, there's you know,

1069
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: eighty thousand people screaming. You can't hear. You got to

1070
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: know where everyone's supposed to line up. You got to

1071
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: know the motions. Then you got to snap the ball,

1072
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: and then you got to know where to throw. I mean,

1073
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 3: there's so much. Think about the amount of information that

1074
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Speaker 3: you have to process in a short period of time,

1075
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: and what what work needs to be done before that

1076
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: play even gets snapped throughout the whole week to execute

1077
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 3: it at a high level. And it's just no accident

1078
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 3: when you watch Peyton and Tom work and all that.

1079
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Speaker 3: I've watched Geno work, why they're good, and I watch

1080
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 3: Baker work, you know, like they work harder than everybody else.

1081
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 3: It means more to them.

1082
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll get you out of here. On the Gemini

1083
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: question of the day, the Gemini credit card. You're in

1084
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: crypto every time you make a purchase groceries, gas, you

1085
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: name it, Gemini dot com slash card.

1086
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: What has we.

1087
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: Got to pay the bills around here?

1088
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: I respect it?

1089
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: What are the what's been the best perk of being

1090
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: the general manager of an NFL team in Las Vegas?

1091
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 3: Sandra can get me on some golf courses that are

1092
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: pretty cool. I'll say that our president, Sandra, this is

1093
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: super well connected around here. And Jesus, you.

1094
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: Want to talk on my language now?

1095
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I've got a chance to play the wind,

1096
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: get a chance to play the Summit Club. I don't

1097
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: get much time to do it, but that's probably been

1098
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Speaker 3: the best perk so far because I'm a golf nut

1099
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Speaker 3: and it's kind of my happy place when I'm away

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Speaker 3: from my family and away from football.

1101
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: Well, this summer, you know you're gonna find out is

1102
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen dry heat or is that Florida

1103
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: ninety five humidity heat? I'll be interested to know is

1104
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: what is more? Intent mostly humidity, but I'd say one

1105
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: to fifteen plus. Living in Arizona is tough to play golfing.

1106
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 3: I know they're both hot. I'm a sick enough golfer

1107
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 3: that I'll give it a shot at least. And I

1108
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: do know when it's that hot, the ball goes really far.

1109
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: So you can feel really good about yourself when you

1110
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Speaker 3: can hit it and iron as far as you can

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00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 3: hit it. In the one hundred and fifteen prior heat, you.

1112
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Speaker 1: Got a US open pick on your way out.

1113
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 3: I mean i'd be I'd be fooled. And I say, Scotty, right, Yeah.

1114
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 1: He looks pretty good.

1115
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 3: Scotty, I like it.

1116
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't think you can go from Scotti Scheffler, Okay, John,

1117
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: I can't.

1118
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 3: Don't. Don't over think it, right, I mean I'd like

1119
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: to make him more more off the radar pick. But

1120
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Speaker 3: do this, I do'n overthink this.

1121
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: No well and enjoy practice to day. I can't thank

1122
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: you enough for coming on with me and UH, I

1123
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: look forward to watching you guys. It's guess I mean

1124
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun. The AFC West is no joke.

1125
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: You got Pete Carroll, Andy Reid, Jim Harbaugh and UH

1126
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: and Sean Payton. So uh, best of luck to you

1127
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: and can't wait to watch your team play.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate John, thanks for having me on today.

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Speaker 2: The volume