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Speaker 1: career was, so I have to do that during the break.

423
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Speaker 1: Career averages against Buffalo. It's funny I'm not saying this

424
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: happens all the time, but when a player on another

425
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: team shows out against team and it happens more than once,

426
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: I won't you think sometimes the gms of the team

427
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: that he hurts kind of think more highly of that

428
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: player anyway. Like, Yeah, I think it's almost human nature.

429
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Speaker 1: As I'm not saying it's right, wrong or indifferent. I

430
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: just think it's human nature that you kind of develop

431
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: an affinity for a player that can kind of, you know,

432
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,120
Speaker 1: put some numbers up against your team. Right, He's been

433
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Speaker 1: with the Jets since two thou nineteen, UM, and that's

434
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Speaker 1: you know, and against the Bills in two thousand and nineteen.

435
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Speaker 1: Let me just see if I can find it. What

436
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: what are you looking for? Just some numbers that he

437
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: had in two thousand and oh yeah, did not play

438
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Speaker 1: against the Bills in two thousand nineteen. Interesting, So I

439
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: don't know, we'll we'll see, you know, we'll get back

440
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 1: to to that. But he's just so familiar, you know

441
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: what I mean, he's one of those guys. Guys darn it.

442
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: You know, he snapped off that touchdown in the in

443
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: that opening game that you know, two years twenty twenty

444
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: and that was really the only thing they did offensively

445
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: all day. Yeah, I when you see the guy like

446
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: that and you're worried about him, intends to think, well,

447
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,160
Speaker 1: I wish I had him on our team. At least

448
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: they don't, you know. But so I'm I wonder how

449
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie feels about the signing. Those guys will probably

450
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: end up being fast friends, but it gives him another

451
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: weapon for Josh, and it gives him some added depth

452
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: at a position that you need some guys in there.

453
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie was depth behind Cole Beasley and vice versa

454
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Now it's Isaiah McKenzie and

455
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder. Right, he'll be twenty nine before they get

456
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: to the next season here in the fall. It turns

457
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Speaker 1: twenty nine in June, and I just think he's he

458
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: is a viable asset for a passing game like this,

459
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: and so I'm thinking he can put up close to

460
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: career numbers. I think his best season he had like

461
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: seventy four receptions something like that. But I just think

462
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: the way this offense operates, it's it's usage of the

463
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: slot receiver. I think all spells probable success for lack

464
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: of a better term for Jamison Crowder, I mean he's

465
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Speaker 1: got let's see, his best season was sixty seven catches

466
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: for eight hundred and forty seven yards and seven touchdowns.

467
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: That was his second year in the league with Washington.

468
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: Believe that was Kirk cousins last year in Washington before

469
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: he left for Minnesota, and then his numbers kind of

470
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: dropped off as Washington muddled through some bad quarterback situations.

471
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: And then he comes to the Jets and in three

472
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: seasons with the Jets, he's got fourteen touchdowns. That's half

473
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: his career touchdowns in the last three seasons, So not

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Speaker 1: too shabby coming out of the slot. So and I

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00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: agree with Jerry in Lavonia. I mean, he was he

476
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: was a go to guy for the Jets, particularly on

477
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Speaker 1: third down, and for an offense that relied so heavily

478
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: on Cole Beasley on third down the last three years.

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00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: Having a viable replacement I think it is pretty important.

480
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: So that's why his potential and seemingly probable addition kind

481
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: of perks my ears up a little bit. And it's

482
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: gonna have me watching him pretty closely, provided he's here

483
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: for OTA's and Mini camp and then training camp, right,

484
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too when you talk to him

485
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: and you hear the rhetoric coming out of New York

486
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: from their fans and some of their medias that he

487
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: had trouble staying healthy. He missed games every so often,

488
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: it was hard to keep him on the field. He

489
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: strikes me as one of those guys that possibly on

490
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: them if you spin it to the positive for Buffalo,

491
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: their ability to keep players healthy and to do the

492
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Speaker 1: things it takes to get them on the field. Right,

493
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: and you see him coming to the end of it's

494
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: a one year deal, right it reportedly don't know yet,

495
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 1: it hasn't been signed yet, obviously, but if he comes

496
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: and signs a one year deal, comes in has the

497
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: kind of success it looks like he is and stays

498
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: healthy because of the things they do here in this

499
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: building to keep him healthy. It's one of those guys

500
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: that say, listen, I don't want to go anywhere when

501
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: he comes when he's a free agent next year, you

502
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Right, We'll see, we'll see if

503
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: that if all the extracurricular things that the Bills do

504
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: outside the lines, that makes guys lives so much better

505
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: in their job takes effect on Jamison Crowder, the guy

506
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: might you know, become a Bill for life. He's missed

507
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 1: four games each of the last two seasons, so twelve

508
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: games played in twenty twelve, games played in twenty one,

509
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: played a full season in twenty nineteen, and then he

510
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: had an injury riddled season in twenty eighteen. So three

511
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: of the last four years he's missed time. Not a

512
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: significant out of time each of the last two seasons,

513
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: but yes he has missed some time. So I, you know,

514
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: I get the concern there. But as you pointed out,

515
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, with the sports science department here and you know,

516
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: the world class training center that the Bagoula's foot, the

517
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: Bill for this has been one of the healthiest teams

518
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: in football the last three seasons running. Yeah, that's not

519
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: by mistake. It's not a mistake now, and it doesn't

520
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: mean it's kind of happened again this year. You can

521
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: always have that kind of stuff happen because there is

522
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: some there is something some you know, just playing dumb

523
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: luck and bad luck that goes into that. But it's

524
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: not accidental that the Bills are pretty healthy from top

525
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: to bottom of their roster. Absolutely all right, we have

526
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: to take a break here, but you can let us

527
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: know what you think, which new or expected offensive peace

528
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: intrigues you the most. With this bill's roster, you got

529
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: some interesting choices that could be coming down the pike

530
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. Duke Johnson, Jamison Crowder or O. J. Howard,

531
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Speaker 1: who was already in the building. You let us know

532
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: at eight fifty open lines for you, or hit us

533
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. Steve

534
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: and I back in a moment here on One Bills Live,

535
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: stay tuned. I got One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve

536
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: Tasker with you. I was partially incorrect Steve in listing

537
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: Crowder's best season, I said it was in twenty sixteen,

538
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: which I believe was the last year Kirk Cousins was

539
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: there in Washington with him sixty seven receptions for eight

540
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: hundred and forty seven yards and seven touchdowns. That was

541
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: his highest yardage and highest touchdown season. His highest reception

542
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: season was twenty nineteen with the Jets, when Sam Darnold

543
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: still looked like a promising player, and he had seventy

544
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: eight receptions for eight hundred and thirty three yards and

545
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: six touchdowns. So I think those two seasons with relatively

546
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: competent quarterback play could be an indication of what to

547
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: expect here in Buffalo. Now, granted, we will admit that

548
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: the weapons are far deeper here in Buffalo than they

549
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: were in those two places in those two respective seasons,

550
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, I think it shows as long as he

551
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: has competent quarterbacking, he's going to be productive for you

552
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: if you're given the opportunity. Right, the question is this,

553
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: he'll have a better quarterback thrown to him. Yeah, but

554
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: they also have more weapons around him, they'll spread the

555
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: ball thin or so is it gonna be what's the

556
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: difference going to be? And I'll say this quite frankly,

557
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: it comes down to Crowder himself. This is an offense,

558
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: and the NFL is in an you're an atmosphere in

559
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: the NFL in these days. On offenses that are whatever

560
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: at the upper echelon of the league, which this one

561
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: purports to be, you earn your targets. That's all there

562
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: is to it. You earn your targets. Steph Diggs gets

563
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: a ton of targets because when they throw the ball

564
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: to him, things happen. It will be the same for

565
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: Jamison crowd or just like it is for Gabe Davis.

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00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: We saw at the end of the last season when

567
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: they started targeted him and a lot and he started

568
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: playing a little bit ahead of Emmanuel Sanders. We saw

569
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: the same thing as Isaiah McKenzie when he came back

570
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: and started emerging in the second half of the season.

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00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: We saw the same thing with Devon Devin Singletary as

572
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: that running game took off when the offensive line settled in,

573
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: they started handing it to him more. That's the way

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00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna work. So if if Jamison Crowder has a

575
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: great season this next year, it's going to be because

576
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: he's thriving in a in an atmosphere where he's earned it.

577
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: If he disappears, it's on him. If he emerges, he emerges,

578
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: it's also on him. But he's it's tough to emerge

579
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: when you're trying to emerge out of a bunch of

580
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: really good targets. So that's his problem. That's the question

581
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: right there, is it? It's about target share, target share,

582
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: and also the when he's open, when they call his number,

583
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a chance to shine and that'll happen,

584
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: and we'll see how that goes because the people around

585
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: him are not going to be the weekly Right, let's

586
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: get back to the phones. We go to Gary in

587
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: or Rochester. Next, Gary, what do you have for us?

588
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: You're all one. Bill's live. It's Lindcaster. But okay, okay, sorry,

589
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: just reading what's on the screen. He does sixty receptions

590
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: about Arrant at the yard, six touchdowns, and it's about balance.

591
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna spread the ball around. You're gonna

592
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: see Dave Davis and and dig balance a little more.

593
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: You can spread the ball around. And it's about quality.

594
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: Steve mentioned it, but taking the opportunities. I think we're

595
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: going to be better at per catch. I think we're

596
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: gonna be more efficient. And that's what I think you

597
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: offen the coordinates who look for It's not just opening

598
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: them up, but kind of just using everything and being unpredictable.

599
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: So let me ask this, Gary, you think you think

600
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: this is it's gonna be like Josh, because what you're

601
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: describing to me looks like Josh is gonna be completing

602
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: about seventy percent of his passes and no matter who's

603
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: going to they're catching the ball all the time, right?

604
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? He Yeah, he's gonna be

605
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: that there to die in a best case scenario all

606
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: the time, and it's going to make it even harder

607
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: to defend him. Is opposed to launching the ball as

608
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: much as he wants. I think ball control takes the

609
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: owners off the defense. I don't know if we did

610
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: that so much. Last year. We scored aft quick a

611
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: bunch of times against Kansas City, which was awesome, But

612
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: sometimes you got the ballb we scored them in and

613
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: apt so sometimes you gotta take it and and just

614
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: didn't dunk it down or a little bit better and

615
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: kake control of things. And I think that's that's the mantra.

616
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: Now it's helped the defense get ahead and then you know,

617
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: in the sled, Vonn Miller just go nuts. Okay, all right, thanks, Yeah,

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00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I will say this, I think

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Speaker 1: one thing that Crowder has in his skill set that

620
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: Beasley does not is better yard after the catchability. I

621
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: just think he's better at it um and with a

622
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: quarterback that can put the ball on a receiver for

623
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: as quickly as Josh can, I think his yards after

624
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: a catchability is enhanced. I mean, very often Cole Beasley

625
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: would catch the ball, get us pass, get the offense,

626
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: pass the sticks. But you know, I can't think of

627
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: a time where he was running for twenty thirty extra

628
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: yards after play. And part of that's a byproduct of

629
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: running a fair amount of routes to the sideline. You know,

630
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: you make the catch, you go out of bounds, what

631
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: have you. But more often than not, even though the

632
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: ball got on him quick, defenders would be closing on

633
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: him quickly, and he tried to just fight for what

634
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: he could and usually it's only three or four extra

635
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Speaker 1: yards in many cases. I think Crowder can be a

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Speaker 1: different kind of slot guy who might be able to

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I mean like Andre Reid after the catch,

638
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Speaker 1: but I think he could give you a little bit

639
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: more in that area of the game, which is an area,

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00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: as you know, Steve, where the Bills don't ever rank

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00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: very highly. Right, They've got a lot of a lot

642
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Speaker 1: of catches, but not much run after the catch. And

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00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: uh yeah, so maybe that that will make a difference.

644
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: Although too um, one guy is not going to change,

645
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: there's going to raise. The team's not going to the

646
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Speaker 1: team average, but still, um, we'll see him maybe, and

647
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Speaker 1: it could be that this is one of those things

648
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: where as long as Josh Allen plays, that's kind of

649
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: what they're going to look like as a as an offense.

650
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't mind putting this a little of it on

651
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: Josh because when they go out, you know, Josh, um,

652
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: he'll hit crossing routes and all that, but he also

653
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: a lot of times, particularly when they're converting Cole Beasley

654
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: sitting there with his feet planted, looking right at him

655
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: and the balls on him. Same thing on the sidelines,

656
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: you remember, you know, hooking up guys hooking up out there.

657
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: Josh throws a lot of hook routes and intermediate and

658
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: every every range. You can say. The only ones he

659
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: doesn't all the time are the deep balls when they're

660
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, you're airing it out. But you can picture

661
00:36:55,440 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: the Bill's offense running where a lot of time Josh

662
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: is sticking it on a guy who has sat down

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00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: in an open area because teams don't really play man

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Speaker 1: against us too much because they're afraid of Josh pulling

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00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: it down and running with it, so they do get

666
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: a lot of zone, plus their receivers win on deep

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00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: overs and stuff like that, so they don't get a

668
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: lot of man. They get some, but not a lot

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00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: of man. Lesser man I think than other teams do.

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00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: I'll run on them and say that. And for that reason,

671
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: when you do that, you don't really get a lot

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00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: of run after catch when you're trying to beat zone.

673
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: So because it's hard to hit guys on the run

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 1: because basically a guy's running through a zone, you hit

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00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 1: put the ball on him. While he's sprinting through the zone,

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00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: he's running right into the next zone defender who's gonna

677
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: hit him in the mouth, right. It's a good way

678
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: to get guys off the field injured. So logic tells

679
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: you that when guy when you're playing zone, you're gonna

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00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: have guys standing in an open area and you stick

681
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: the ball on I'm like Josh does, like the big

682
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 1: gun rifles it in there. They catch the ball, then

683
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: turn the field and the defenders close on him fast

684
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: boom tackle. So that's why you know you see a

685
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: lot I think the Bills, that's one contributing factor to

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00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: the reason the Bills don't have a lot of run

687
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: after the catchyards. So it may not be different with

688
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder back to the phones and to Rick in Nashville. Next,

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00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: what do you have? First? Rick, you kind of stole

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00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: my thunder. Um, I saw less the eighty five receivers

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00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: who were like eligible h in yards after catch, and

692
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: Beasley was like eady third, so he was at the bottom. Yeah,

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00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: but people are comparing put up like Beasley numbers. You know,

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Speaker 1: it was John Brown in Beasley the first few years

695
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: and then nobody else and you had like Singletary was third,

696
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: and he was like twenty five catches are down in there.

697
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: And then the following year you thought you had something,

698
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: but then John Brown got hurt, so then was just

699
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: digs in Beasley. Yeah. I mean if he ends up

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Speaker 1: with Beasley numbers, either gave Davis flopped or somebody got hurt.

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00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: I mean I can see him in that sixty five

702
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: seventy catch. I mean, that would be a great year,

703
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: and his run after catch is going to be more

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00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: regardless of the coverage. But that is a great point. Um,

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00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: a lot of hook routs, a lot of stone coverage,

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00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: but it's still be a lot better. Um, I'm almost

707
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it, but I don't mean

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00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: it's in a bad way. But I felt like Beasley

709
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: was like a little Pete Mits letters junior catch hand own,

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00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: catch hand out, And it just kind of cracked me

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Speaker 1: up that you guys mentioned it right before I got

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00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: on the Yeah, but uh, I think he's gonna be

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00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: a valuable weapon, um, but not ninety, you know, one

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00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: hundred targets, but he can be He can be a

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Speaker 1: hand a handful for sure. But I just wanted to

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00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: tend to you know, Beasley put up great numbers, and

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00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: I liked the guy, and he helped Josh a tun

718
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: but a lot of that was it was it was

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00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: a two man show. Yeah. Yeah, And I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: and I'll say this as well. I think as many

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00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: catch as he has, I think it's a better We're

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00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: telling stat about the success of Crowder and Diggs and

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Speaker 1: Davis will be the efficiency of their targets. If they

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Speaker 1: throw to Digs fifteen times a game and he only

725
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,439
Speaker 1: catches six balls, that's a that's a struggle. That's that's

726
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: not good enough. You need You need a day, you know,

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Speaker 1: at outstanding as it was, you'd love to have him

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Speaker 1: like Isaiah McKenzie against the New England Patriots twelve targets

729
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: eleven catches. Yeah, that's the kind of efficiency you want.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's when Josh is hitting a lot of

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Speaker 1: a ton of guys. Everybody's catching the ball, and that's

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Speaker 1: when you stay on the field offensively. So as many

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Speaker 1: catches as he has, okay, yeah, as long as he

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Speaker 1: gets those sixty five seventy catches on eighty five to

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Speaker 1: ninety targets, right, that's what you're looking for. Right. But

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Speaker 1: the real, the real mystery here is how Ken Dorsey's

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00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 1: gonna draw it up, because is he going to take

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Speaker 1: the approach that dable dude, which began first and foremost

739
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: with matchups. That's right, who's got the best matchup this week?

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00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: And let's let's feed the ball that way more often

741
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: than not. Not every time, but when we need something,

742
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 1: we when we have a guy to have it down

743
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: to stay on the field, we're attacking our best matchup.

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00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: And one week that might be Digs get fifteen targets.

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00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: Another week it might be Crowder against this slow nickel

746
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: corner that they know he can win against on every

747
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: single play. Maybe one week it's it's because you got

748
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: knocks in Howard on the field at the same time,

749
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: and those two guys share fifteen targets. Like, there's a

750
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: million moving parts on your offense and there's a million

751
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: moving parts on the defense too that you don't control.

752
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: So you run all these experiments, say, okay, listen what

753
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: they have shown in other teams when they get the

754
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: guy here and they think about if they think about

755
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: this guy like they're thinking that, we think they're gonna

756
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: think about digs. Here's what they do and if they

757
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: do that, our guy crowder Is is gonna kill them.

758
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: That's the way the mindset goes, we're gonna get crowd

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00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: of the ball. We're gonna we're gonna get into this

760
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: set and see how they adjust to our offense and

761
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: if they adjust the way they have been, we got them. Yeah.

762
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: And then you do that for a series. They come

763
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: back out and say we need doing that no more.

764
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: So now you got to have a plan B and say, okay,

765
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: crowd or did that. Now we're to pivot right, then

766
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: you pivot. So that's how fluid this offensive game plan

767
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: stuff is. And it comes down to can your guys

768
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: beat theirs one on one on the outside, And it

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00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: also goes, can you guys beat them one on one

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00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: on the inside, right, So there's a million moving parts.

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00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: And Ken dorrisy and just from this conversation with Brownie

772
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: and I and the callers say, you can see, man,

773
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: you just can't. There's so little you can control. You

774
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: just gotta have a plan and go in and see

775
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: what happens. And it comes down to how you guys play,

776
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: and and and well, now to go into full s.

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00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: How they play in large measure is dictated by how

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00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: they feel about each other in the relationships they haven't

779
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: how much they trust each other in a spot where

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00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: they have to anticipate what the other is going to do.

781
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: That comes down to relationships. And that's you know, that's

782
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: just that's the most unpredictable thing of all. Right, But

783
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: the most attractive thing about Crowder is much like Digs,

784
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: much like Davis, the guy has a proven track record

785
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: of winning against coverage. You throw him into the mix,

786
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: it only adds to the ability level of this team's

787
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: passing game. We gotta take a break here, more of

788
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: your calls coming up next when we return here On

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Speaker 1: one Bill's Line presented by Kellied to health, It's Buffalo

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791
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: J Knight, presented by Wegmans, during the team's home game

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Speaker 1: against the Nashville Predators on Friday, April first. The legendary

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00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: career of Sabers, played by play announcer Rick Jannette, will

794
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Speaker 1: be honored when a banner bearing his name will join

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Speaker 1: the banners of other Sabers legends in the rafters of

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Speaker 1: key Bank Center before the game. And we want to

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00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: remind fans that are attending that game get in your

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Speaker 1: seats early. This is a pregame ceremony, so if you

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Speaker 1: want to take all of the festivities in, be sure

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00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: to be in your seats long before face off again

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00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: Friday April first. Tickets obviously still available. Want to get

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00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: back to our conversation about which new player, potential player,

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00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: signed player on offense intrigues you the most. We've been

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00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 1: talking a lot about Jamison Crowder here in the first

805
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: hour of the show, but you know, Duke Johnson is

806
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: another guy that could be in the fold shortly, and

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00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: you have O. J. Howard who's kind of an intriguing

808
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: tight end addition, So let us know what you think.

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00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: At eight oh three fifty one five fIF Howard has

810
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: been one of those guys. When he came out, a

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00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 1: lot of Bills fans said, that's the guy. Get him

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00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: in the draft. They thought he was you know, they

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00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: thought he was that was a good tight end draft too.

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00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: That Yeah, they thought he was a transformative tight end. Um.

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00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: Certainly he had the tools to do it. And then

816
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: he kind of went to he went to Tampa Bay

817
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: and you know, got the injury. Yeah, um, and it

818
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 1: derailed him a little bit. And then Tom Brady came in.

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00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: I think he got it two years ago. Brady comes

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00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: in and then they bring Gronk in. So all of

821
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: a sudden and they had Cameron Brady who kind of

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00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: emerged when Oj got hurt. OJ gets pushed to the

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00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: sidelines because of the injury. Then when Tom Brady shows up,

824
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: he brings Gronk with him, and it's like, okay, well,

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00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: how are you gonna get it? How are you gonna

826
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: bust into the line up there? So a lot of

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00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: people are still painting OJ Howard with a really optimistic brush,

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00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: and and perhaps rightfully so there's nothing that says it's

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00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: not true. Let's get back to the phones at eight

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Speaker 1: O three five fifty we go to Kim in Marilla next,

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Speaker 1: What do you have for us? Kim A right, I

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00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: just kind of gets off topic, and I'm sorry for that,

833
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: but I got a thought about Devin's single carry. He

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00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: seems to be the type to me, and I'd like

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00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 1: your opinion on it that he needs to get the

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00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: touches to be more effective. He just seems to me

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00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: if they give him more touches, he gets better as

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00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: the game goes on. And I'll hang up the much

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00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: and hear what you got to say about that. Yeah,

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00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: we've we've talked about this before, and I think there's

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00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: there's merit to the argument, Kim Um. For me, I

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00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: don't know if it's something that they're going to be

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00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: able to cater to because at its core, this is

844
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 1: a passing offense. They're going to be passing. If they

845
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: run sixty five plays in a given game, more often

846
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: than not, it's going to be thirty five to forty passes,

847
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: twenty to twenty five carries, and it's not going to change.

848
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: You win with Josh Allen not by running the football.

849
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they're ever going to get

850
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: to a place where you can give Devin Singletary twenty

851
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: five carries or touches or what happen. And the only reason,

852
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: here's the thing it, Devin Singletary needs to be more

853
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: effective early in the game. If he wants carries late

854
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: in the game. That's that's simple. And I think it's

855
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: almost unrealistic to think any running game is going to

856
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: be able to do that, because here's what happens. If

857
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna give Devin Singletary, if you're in a six

858
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: seventy play offensive game, and you're gonna give him thirty

859
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: five carries or thirty carries and then five others or

860
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: to somebody else, so you know, to change it up.

861
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: If you're get him thirty carries as opposed to twenty

862
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: carries that he has been getting on a big day,

863
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: I don't even Yeah, I don't know. If a team

864
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: carries that means you're getting ten to twelve plays. You're

865
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: taking the ball out of Josh Allen's hands, who's maybe

866
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: the best player in the NFL. I will there's where

867
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: there's the bout. Now, if you can balance it go

868
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: fifty fifty run pass. You have to have a running

869
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: game that is so productive as to dictate that split,

870
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: because otherwise what are you doing. I mean, you're not

871
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: going to take the ball out of Josh Allen's hands

872
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: unless every time you hand it off you got a

873
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: threat to go the distance, because that's what you're with Josh.

874
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: That's what you are with Josh Allen the ball in

875
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: his hands. So you have to be consistently productive, big

876
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: time consistently productive to get the ball that many times

877
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: in a game when Josh Allen and Steph Diggs are there. Now,

878
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: you've got to be able to run the ball that

879
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: well to take the ball out of Josh's hands. And

880
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: I think it's completely unrealistic to think anybody's going to

881
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: be doing that. I haven't Singletary or or McKissick, or

882
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: Duke Johnson or Derrick Henry. It's it's impossible to say

883
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: that they're going to be that productive. I will say this,

884
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: the offensive coaching staff made a good decision towards the

885
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: tail end of the regular season last year. I think

886
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: they came to the realization that it was very hard

887
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: for any one of their backs to develop any kind

888
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: of rhythm with the run game because they were rotating

889
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: them in and out so much. And I think they

890
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: said to themselves, Look, we're in an offense that's throwing

891
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: this thing forty times a game. So even if we

892
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: leave the same guy on the field, he's only getting

893
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: thirteen to fifteen carries. So why don't we leave that

894
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: same guy out there for the whole game? And that's

895
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: why you saw Zach Moss barely play, and that's why

896
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: you saw Matt Breeda barely played down the stretch. And

897
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: what happened, Singletary got extraordinarily more productive because he was

898
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: the guy from start to finish in the game, and

899
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: even though he wasn't getting twenty twenty five carries, there

900
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: was still a flow of the game that he that

901
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: felt familiar to him, and I think he performed better

902
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: as a result. That's probably the best we can hope

903
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: for going forward, because because the identity of this offense

904
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 1: is not changing, and it shouldn't. When you have somebody

905
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: the caliber of a Josh Allen at quarterback, you don't

906
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: suddenly start running the ball thirty times a game just

907
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: to make you running back better. You lean on the

908
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: arm of Josh Allen because that guy's taking into the

909
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: promised land. And that's that's the way it's got to go.

910
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: I think they found the best case scenario to make

911
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: Singletary as productive as possible. Leave him on the field

912
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: instead of subbing him out. More so he gets all

913
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: of the action out of the backfield that you're calling

914
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: right now. That this too. We set it time and

915
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: time again, and because it's impossible for us to quantify

916
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: the difference that had made except for just to observe

917
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: it casually like everybody else did. The offensive line of

918
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills got shuffled virtually every other week during

919
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: the regular season until Week sixteen, when Ike Butker went

920
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: down with his achilles injury. Ryan Bates went in left guard,

921
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: flipped from right to left guard. Listen, you forget for

922
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: at the shuffle that was going on. Ike Butcker goes down.

923
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, Dion Dawkins had to go in

924
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: and play because he was coming off COVID so he

925
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: wasn't even gonna play. So they get all, right, you're

926
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: back in, bro You I don't know if you're gonna

927
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: We're not gonna ease you in. You're in right there,

928
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: left tackle. So Ryan Bates goes to left guard. Morris

929
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: is there at center. Then Darryl Williams who was playing

930
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: right tackle, and Spencer Brown, who was playing left tackle.

931
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: Move Darry Williams at right guard, Spencer Brown comes to

932
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: right tackle, and so all those guys move around right there.

933
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: And in the second quarter of Week sixteen in New England,

934
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 1: and they finally after that injury, they said that they

935
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: stayed right there. They didn't because the rest of that

936
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: game they played really pretty well. For whatever reason why

937
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: they did. Who knows, lightning in a bottle, I don't care.

938
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: That's how it went the rest of the year. And

939
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: from that moment on. It was then in my in

940
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: my recollection, they started to roll with the run game

941
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: Week sixteen, Week seventeen, Week eighteen, Wildcard round and then

942
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: into the division round as well. That's when Devin Singletary's like, wow,

943
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: that's again. And a lot of it had to do

944
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: with what happened up front or what did not happen

945
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: upfront for a change, And I would argue that he

946
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: was even starting to gain traction in the run game

947
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: prior to that, I would I would say you could

948
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: go as far back as the final four to five

949
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: games of the regular season. He really started to get

950
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: into groove. Hopefully that continues again this season. Griffin and Rochester,

951
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: Bill and Amhurst and others holding at eight oh three

952
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: oh five fifty. We gotta take a break here, but

953
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: we're coming right to you when we return. More of

954
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: your phone calls on some of these new offensive pieces

955
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: and what intrigues you the most about them. Pick a

956
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: guy and let us know. We're back with more in

957
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: the second hour of the show. Here on One Bill's Live,

958
00:52:48,719 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a

959
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been all all over the fields.

960
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

961
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: pleader for state. Steve a blimp. We're not even in

962
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: the strategy of normalcy here. Welcome back to our number

963
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: two of One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve task They

964
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: like it. We are discussing the most intriguing additions to

965
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, those foreign free agency,

966
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: some of them not official just yet, but there are

967
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: reports that Jamison Crowder could be joining the offense as

968
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: well as Duke Johnson. We know O. J. Howard's already

969
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: in the fold. So who intrigues you the most? Heading

970
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty two season, there is some free

971
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: agency news to bring to your attention. Pass rusher Zadarius Smith,

972
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: who was not re signed by the Green Bay Packers,

973
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: has now signed with the division rival Minnesota Vikings, So

974
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: him and Daniel Hunter at opposite ends of the pass rush.

975
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: For the Minnesota Vikings three years, forty two million dollars.

976
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: He actually turned down a deal very early in free

977
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: agency to go back to the Ravens. It was four

978
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: years thirty five million. Now he gets three years forty

979
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: two so a better deal by holding out, So it

980
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: worked for him. So it looks like Minnesota's got a

981
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: pass rush again, unless, of course, they turned around and

982
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 1: trade Denial Hunter, which some people are respecting now that

983
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: they've signed Zadarius Smith. But we gotta get back to

984
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: the phones at eight O three oh five fifty one

985
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty open line for you.

986
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: But we're leading off now with Griffin and Rochester. What

987
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: do you have for his? Griffin? Hey, guys, how you

988
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: doing good? So I'm really intrigued on what the left

989
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: side of the line's gonna look like with Roger Staffold

990
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: and to go off what you're saying with Devin Singletary

991
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: with a new OC and Ken Dorsey. That's the piece

992
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: of intrigued me the most because I think miss Morris

993
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: could have been a borderline pro bowler. Dean Dawkins pro

994
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: bowler last year, Roger staffeld pro bowler. I mean that

995
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: last side of the line. If you know, Devin singlet

996
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: Terry can pick it up, Duke Johnson can pick it up.

997
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: I think Ken Dorsey has a real weapon there in

998
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: the run game. Yeah, I would. I would agree with that, Griffin,

999
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: So thanks for bringing it to our attention. And I

1000
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: would also say that if there's the most attractive quality

1001
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: about Roger Staffold's game is the physical nature of his

1002
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: play that just comes naturally to him. He's dude, He's

1003
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,720
Speaker 1: a wrecking ball, even at his age of thirty three.

1004
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean we had him here in studio last week,

1005
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: and I mean he shook my hand and I think

1006
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: my forearm disappeared. Yeah, I mean all he's put together.

1007
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: All these guys are big, but some of them are big,

1008
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: big big guys. Yeah, So he's that kind of player,

1009
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: and that's that's a plus. And we took in the

1010
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: last segment, we talked about the balance between the run

1011
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: of the past and what the percentages would be. You

1012
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: have to know that the running game would have to

1013
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: be so vastly more effective in the first quarter, second quarter,

1014
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,959
Speaker 1: or third quarter to be used in the fourth quarter

1015
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: to balance out or run pass you want fifty. If

1016
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: you're talking about a fifty fifty run pass, I don't

1017
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: know what that running game would look like in today's

1018
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 1: NFL because it's not out there. Even the Titans throw

1019
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: more than they pass. I mean, it's just so hard

1020
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: to be to break off the chunks of yardage you're

1021
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: talking about. In the league is so slanted towards the

1022
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 1: offense on the edges, with the wide receivers and the

1023
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: defensive backs. It's so slanted in the offense's favor that

1024
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: it's it's easier to snap off big chunks of yardage.

1025
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: And with the quarterback play that you're seeing with guys

1026
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: at the top of them, particular in the AFC obviously,

1027
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: but at this point the history the NFL, so many

1028
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are able to put the ball on guys when

1029
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: they get separation. It's just so much easy. You have

1030
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: the guy drop back, get it out on time, catch it.

1031
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: Even if the guy goes down, it's second and two,

1032
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: and a second and two pass is like a yawner.

1033
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: But a second and two run, when you get an

1034
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,439
Speaker 1: eight yard run on first down, that's like, Wow, we're kicking,

1035
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: We're killing them, let's go. You know what I mean.

1036
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 1: There's the difference in how you evaluate those two. So, yes,

1037
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: it is possible that the Bills could run the football

1038
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: well enough to take the ball out of Josh Allen's

1039
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: hands another ten percent of the overall times in the

1040
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: game offensively, But man, oh man, it would be a

1041
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: vast difference than what we've seen in Buffalo and even

1042
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: around the league for the most part. Yeah, and I

1043
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: would say, so your stuff about Roger Saffold and the

1044
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: left side of line. Yeah, sure, the running game may

1045
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: be more effective. Yes, I would agree with that. And

1046
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 1: I think the guys up front could be even more

1047
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: physical than they were last year. I mean, we saw

1048
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins. You know, he had two bounts with COVID

1049
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: last year and it robbed him of playing at his

1050
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: most effective. But towards the end of the year, I mean,

1051
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: people are throwing clips up on social media. He is

1052
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: literally knocking people off their feet and out of bounds

1053
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: staffold can do a lot of the same kind of stuff.

1054
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: So those two guys next to each other's shoulder to

1055
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 1: shoulder have fun with that. Back to the phones and

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Speaker 1: to Bill in Amherst. Next we got first Bill. Hello,

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Speaker 1: this is my philosophy. The guy we want isn't here yet.

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Speaker 1: He's number twenty five for four reasons. One camp friendly,

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Speaker 1: two very talented, one of those great receivers in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Three if Diggs or Davis gets hurt, he steps in

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Speaker 1: and there's not that much chop off Folkeley, and four

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Speaker 1: don't leave him for Kansas City. Let me know what

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Speaker 1: you think of that statement. Who's twenty five? I think

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Speaker 1: the twenty fifth pick? Okay, so obviously you're thinking it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a wide receiver, um, which is a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are thinking just the opposite. They think

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a corner as well, because the

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Speaker 1: Bills have a bigger need there, particularly after they you know,

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Speaker 1: talk Crowder but you're go hang up on you sorry. Um, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he may be. There's no question. No, certainly no. It

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Speaker 1: is not out of the realm of possibility or even

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Speaker 1: unreasonable to think that a twenty fifth pick in the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft is going to be able to walk onto

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Speaker 1: your team and contribute. But I will say this, let

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Speaker 1: me just caution everybody. I'm like everybody else. I was

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Speaker 1: here through the drought years, okay, but I was also

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Speaker 1: on a team that was pretty darn good and went

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Speaker 1: to four straight Super Bowls. You get to the level

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Speaker 1: that the Bills are now with their roster, it's not

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Speaker 1: that easy for twenty fifth pick come in, walk on

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Speaker 1: and just start playing. During the days of Jim Kelly

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Speaker 1: and Thurman and Bruce, when all those guys were you know,

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Speaker 1: we're knocking it out of the park every week in

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01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 1: the NFL, there were a lot of really good football

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Speaker 1: players that this team drafted couldn't get on the field.

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Speaker 1: Eric Moles was the twenty fourth pick in the draft.

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Speaker 1: He was a kick returner in two years. This is

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Speaker 1: not the drought roster of the Buffalo Bills. This is

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Speaker 1: the deep, elite, talented, expensive earning it roster. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth pick of the draft, no matter who he is,

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Speaker 1: may walk in here thinking he's a big fish in

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Speaker 1: a small pond. He will find out that he is

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Speaker 1: a drop in a bucket. So it's gonna it's I

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Speaker 1: get it. It's reasonable to assume a twenty fifth pick

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Speaker 1: of the draft might come in and help you out,

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Speaker 1: and he may. But this ain't the drought roster, folks.

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Speaker 1: This they got some guys. They've got some guys everywhere.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. I hope it happens, but we'll see. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not convinced twenty five is going to be a

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Speaker 1: receiver necessarily right now. Today, it's a corner in my opinion. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would say the same, just by virtue of the

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Speaker 1: fact they've done nothing there yet in free agency. That's

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Speaker 1: number one, and then number two. You lost Levi Wallace

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Speaker 1: to the Pittsburgh Steelers in free agency, and in fact

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Speaker 1: that's the only that's the only position they haven't addressed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: offensive line, defensive line, edge. I've signed five guys for

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Speaker 1: the defensive line right now, Wide receiver as well. Right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but you let us know which new or

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Speaker 1: expected Bill's offensive peace intrigues you the most. Tell us

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Speaker 1: why Jamison crowd are actually gaining some ground on oj Howard. Well,

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Speaker 1: they haven't signed out a Crowder yet either. Well, that's right,

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Speaker 1: it's not official yet. It may be I'm a kissing

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Speaker 1: thing too. Don't even say that, right, but we're taking

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Speaker 1: it as a get We haven't talked to anybody, We

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Speaker 1: don't know anything. We're just going with reports outside the

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Speaker 1: building that say crowd is going to be year and

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Speaker 1: so is the other running. Yeah, I mean Duke Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Maybe let's talk about that for a second here, because

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Speaker 1: I think it's a receiving element that you can argue

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Speaker 1: has not been present within the scope of this particular offense.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to go all the way back to Lashawn

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Speaker 1: McCoy being on this roster, and he was only here

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Speaker 1: for the twenty seventeen season. He got moved in twenty eighteen. Right,

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Speaker 1: he got moved in twenty eight He got moved in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, so he only had one year with day Ball,

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Speaker 1: and that was the year that the offensive line was struggling,

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Speaker 1: to say the least, and was addressed by the signing

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Speaker 1: of four new offensive lineman who went on to start

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Speaker 1: the very next year in twenty nineteen, and they win

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Speaker 1: ten games to go to the playoffs. But you don't

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Speaker 1: have a pass catching back of this caliber, you know,

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Speaker 1: provided the Duke Johnson deal goes through. Since Shady that's

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Speaker 1: the last time you had a back the catch like

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Speaker 1: this guy. So how does that fit into the scope

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Speaker 1: of this offense. This is a team that threw a

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Speaker 1: lot on third down, no matter what the distance was.

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Speaker 1: But you're gonna need to have a back on the

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Speaker 1: field if you have one that can catch the ball

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Speaker 1: the way Duke Johnson can. That's a pretty interesting thing too.

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Speaker 1: That intrigues me as well. Right, I think you know,

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Speaker 1: we're back to this philosophy that we've had here with Dayball,

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Speaker 1: Brian Dayball as the offensive coordinator over the past four

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Speaker 1: or five years. You get as good at players as

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Speaker 1: you can, you turn them loose, and you put them

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Speaker 1: in an offense where it allows them to do what

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Speaker 1: they do best, and that's it. And then you match

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Speaker 1: up and you see what defense you're planning, what they do,

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Speaker 1: what they can do, what they cannot do, what they

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Speaker 1: like to do, what they do not like to do,

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Speaker 1: and you try to get them into what they don't

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Speaker 1: do well and what they don't like doing, and then

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Speaker 1: you attack them there. And that's how it works. So

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Speaker 1: you get as many good players as you can, with

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Speaker 1: as versatile of skill sets as you can, and you

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Speaker 1: take the field. So that's where we're at right now,

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Speaker 1: and they're still trying to formulate all this, but I

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Speaker 1: think this too. We said we had Brandon on yesterday

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Speaker 1: and he said this, I still think you went up

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Speaker 1: front on both sides. So that's where they've started in

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Speaker 1: free agency. Yeah, let's go to the tweet sheet, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company,

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Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills, and we lead off with Ranger, who,

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Speaker 1: when asked which new or expected offensive piece intrigues you

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Speaker 1: the most, said I'm interested to see how Howard and

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Speaker 1: Knox work together. I think there is a general assumption

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Speaker 1: Steve that if and when OJ Howard gets on the field,

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox will already be on the field, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's a fair assumption to make, especially after he

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Speaker 1: put up a nine touchdown season to tie for the

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Speaker 1: team lead. It is intriguing to wonder how often twelve

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Speaker 1: personnel is used going forward under Ken Dorsey. It is

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Speaker 1: not a personnel grouping that we used all that often

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Speaker 1: by Brian Dable occasionally, but this team ran eleven personnel,

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Speaker 1: ten personnel more than they ran twelve to a buy

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Speaker 1: a wide margin. And I think they only use twelve

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Speaker 1: personnel about six to eight percent of the time, So

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Speaker 1: that could change with Oj Howard here, because he is

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Speaker 1: such a versatile chess piece. He's a guy that can

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Speaker 1: work in the blocking game, but is also an athlete

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Speaker 1: and can get out and make some plays in the

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Speaker 1: passing game. So you put him and Knocks on the field,

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Speaker 1: whether one of them is detached, both of them are detached,

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Speaker 1: whatever the case might be, it's still technically twelve personnel

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Speaker 1: and off you go. I'm not saying they're going to

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Speaker 1: be running twelve personnel to the degree that we've seen

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Speaker 1: in New England over the years, back when they had

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Speaker 1: Hernandez and Gronk or even now with John and Smith

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Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry, but I do think there is a

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Speaker 1: healthy chance that that percentage will see a little bit

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Speaker 1: of an up tick, maybe up to ten or twelve

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Speaker 1: percent of the time, and you'll just have to see

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Speaker 1: how effective it is, number one, And I think that

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Speaker 1: will largely determine whether you continue to see it or

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Speaker 1: whether you see it even more than you have beyond

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Speaker 1: their initial expectations for that personnel grouping. Yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 1: the key, and those are question questions we don't know.

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Speaker 1: There's so many things we don't know about what this

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Speaker 1: offense is gonna look like, even with the returning guys

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Speaker 1: who are so crucial Josh and Devin Singletary, because the

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Speaker 1: guy calling the plays is different. Guy calling the plays

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Speaker 1: is different, And there's gonna be some somebody news gonna

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Speaker 1: be at wide receiver for the Bills. They've got two

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Speaker 1: starters that are gone and Cole Beasley and Emmanuel Sanders,

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Speaker 1: so it's gonna be you know, Isaiah McKenzie, Gabe Davis

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Speaker 1: or somebody else somewhat other, some other guy U O. J.

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Speaker 1: Howard may be a starter with Dawson Knox or without

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Speaker 1: Dawson Knox. Dawson Knox, maybe by himself. There's so many things.

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Speaker 1: And Ken Dorsey calling play this is no small thing.

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Speaker 1: And putting together a game plan for that man. Now,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna have a lot of experienced help on his side.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna put it together. And you gotta have complete

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Speaker 1: confidence in their ability to have expense enough to do this,

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Speaker 1: and I do. I think I'm excited to see him work,

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Speaker 1: but we don't know what it's gonna look like, right,

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Speaker 1: so we're kind of flying blind. Here to a certain extent.

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Speaker 1: Jack on the tweet sheet says OJ Howard on size

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Speaker 1: and athletic talent alone, the potential is there despite some injuries,

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't have to be the guy at tight

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Speaker 1: end here. Combine that with the proved contract, this guy

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Speaker 1: could boom big time. Also, there are many other great

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Speaker 1: talents on offense to pull attention away from him. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're right, it's a one year, proved deal. As we've

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Speaker 1: seen Brandon being employed before and in many cases it

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Speaker 1: has worked very well. It has benefited the player, but

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Speaker 1: it's also benefited this Bill's team, whether it's offense or defense.

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Speaker 1: You can go all the way back to the last

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Speaker 1: time Jordan Phillips was here on a one year contract.

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Speaker 1: Guy had nine and a half sacks, eighteen tackles for loss,

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Speaker 1: and had like twenty quarterback hits by far as best

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Speaker 1: years of prost by far. I mean, we've seen a

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Speaker 1: bunch of guys come in here and make the most

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Speaker 1: of one year deals. Shack Lawson in the last year

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Speaker 1: of his rookie deal hit it out of the park.

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Speaker 1: He was right behind Jordan Phillips and both of them

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Speaker 1: got giant deals on the free agent market. They made

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Speaker 1: their money. Now they're back again. Guess what, They're back

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Speaker 1: on one year contracts. I think it's the same for

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Speaker 1: Roj Howard, a guy that is eager to prove he

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Speaker 1: still has a lot left to offer at age twenty

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Speaker 1: seven and wants to make an impact and knows he

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Speaker 1: could potentially be doing that with one of the best

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in football. These guys, even if they're not starters,

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Speaker 1: or even if Oj Howard ends up playing a lot

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Speaker 1: of the time behind Dawson Knox, they're gonna be times

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Speaker 1: when he's gonna get opportunities just because of the nature

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Speaker 1: of the way the season unfolds. Same thing upfront with

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Speaker 1: like Jordan Phillips and you know him, Settle and all

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Speaker 1: these guys, they're going to get a chance. And not

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Speaker 1: all these guys are on one year contracts, but the

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Speaker 1: guys that are all on one year contracts, through the

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Speaker 1: course of a long season, they're going to get chances

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Speaker 1: to contribute in big ways during certain games where the

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Speaker 1: matchup is there, or there's an injury to a guy

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Speaker 1: ahead of them and now they get extra reps. Those

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Speaker 1: kind of things happen those guys on those one year contracts.

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Speaker 1: It never leaves their mind. They want to continue their

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01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 1: career and they know that every game and every snap

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Speaker 1: they put on film is a resume. So when those

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Speaker 1: opportunities come, you've got guys like that rising to the

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Speaker 1: occasion everywhere on your roster. That's what team building is.

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Speaker 1: That's why Sean McDermott was successful in twenty seventeen after

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Speaker 1: a seventeen year drought. This club gets to the playoffs

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01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: with a roster that everybody thought they were tanking with

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: because guys down the roster on these one year deals

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Speaker 1: were elevating. They were they were grinding it out, they

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Speaker 1: were trying to win every snap, and it makes a

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Speaker 1: big difference in a long season when you get to

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Speaker 1: that point. It's the same is true now in year

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Speaker 1: five of Sean or six of Sean McDermott's tenure. You

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01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: got guys on one year deals that are going to

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Speaker 1: get a chance, and maybe not a bunch of them,

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01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: but every so often during the season they're going to

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Speaker 1: merge and shine because they need that to continue their career.

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Speaker 1: That's something that is the human side of the game

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01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: that is really really sometimes forgotten about by fans. They

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01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 1: think the same guy every year. Every day it's the

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Speaker 1: same guy. Not always. These guys try and rise up

1278
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Speaker 1: when they know they're going to get a really a

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01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: big chance to shine because they want to continue their

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Speaker 1: career and get paid to do it. It's a huge

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Speaker 1: motivating factor for a lot of these players. And we

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01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday Brandon being to get value. We

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01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 1: talked about it before they signed von Miller. We're having

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Speaker 1: this big conversation about their ability to get out front

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Speaker 1: of what motivates a guy and use his contract to

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Speaker 1: do it. And they've They've hit home run on a

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Speaker 1: number of occasions with guys no Christopher says, I'm intrigued

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01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,839
Speaker 1: by Roger Saffold need the old line to gel earlier

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01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 1: to produce favorable results earlier in the year, and he's

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01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: right about that. I think injuries played a big role

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Speaker 1: in compromising the effectiveness of the offensive line of times,

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Speaker 1: but first half of the year Steve we witnessed it,

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 1: coach McDermott after games saying we didn't win the battle

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01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:30,480
Speaker 1: of the line of scrimmage. Now, with a veteran like Saffold,

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Speaker 1: I think the gelling process is going to happen relatively quick.

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Speaker 1: So Dawkins now in his what is his sixth year,

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Speaker 1: and Mitch Morris now in his seventh year. You put

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Speaker 1: saffold in between them, those three should work in perfect

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Speaker 1: harmony pretty quickly. I would think, yeah, yeah, that and

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Speaker 1: that'll start early, and you know, and I think let's

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01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: just be fair a little there. A little bit of

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: it was remnants of COVID last year. Some of it

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01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: was injury and those nagging injuries, you know, you know,

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01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: foot here and ankle there, and guys in and out

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01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: of the lineup. But COVID, you know, took a couple

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Speaker 1: of starters out all the way along the season. So

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01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: theoretically that'll be you know, water into the bridge this year,

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01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: that won't be a factor. And if you can get

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01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 1: these guys to start practicing in OTA's and mini camp

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01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 1: and training camp and the preseason, you got a better

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01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: chance of getting out of the blocks a little quicker

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: than they did last year. They started out, I mean

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01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 1: almost out of the get go. They were not right,

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01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 1: and you know, so we'll see if they can fix

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Speaker 1: that this year. Let's go back to the phones and

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Speaker 1: we go to Patrick in Webster next. What do you

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Speaker 1: have first? Patrick, Hey, Hi, guys, what are you doing? Good? Good?

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say before all my questions, I

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Speaker 1: loved your interview on the TV podcast with Plans and

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Speaker 1: being it was great. Glad you enjoyed it. Um. I

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01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: have two questions. One is about Ryan Bates because I

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01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: know he's a restricted free agent right and I know

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01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,680
Speaker 1: he's visiting teams and he what he stepped in. He

1324
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: really kind of solidified our line at the end of

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01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: the season. And the guy said his communication is absolutely awesome.

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01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: And I know we brought in the one offensive lineman,

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01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 1: but he's older. Bates is young. Why would we want

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 1: to really leave him possibly go because everybody knows we're

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01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 1: kind of up against the cap. Now. Yeah, people could

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01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: throw in a frontloaded deal. And what do we if

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01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: we lose him? What do we get a return because

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01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: of the restricted tender? Does it just give us the

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01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: right to match it or do they get something else?

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Speaker 1: Do we get something in return? Other questions about a

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01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 1: running back. I'll let you, okay, so it's quickly, it's

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01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 1: right at first refusal for Bates. They can match any offer.

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01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 1: They can match any offer, but that's it if they

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01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: do not match, because they can't because they're up against

1339
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: the Capra what have you. There is no compensation coming

1340
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: back to the Bills because he was an undrafted rookie

1341
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: by the Philadelphia Eagles before he was traded here as

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01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: a rookie. And then that's pretty much it. Now here's

1343
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 1: the thing. We'll go back to the value that Brandon

1344
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 1: Bean and the personnel department puts on every single player.

1345
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: The restricted free agent low tender is somewhere between two

1346
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: point four and two point five million dollars. I think

1347
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: that's a pretty fair price for a third year player

1348
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 1: who got his first four regular season starts of his

1349
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:41,720
Speaker 1: career just this season because of injury. They're banking that

1350
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 1: the rest of the league feels similarly, or maybe don't

1351
01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: even think he should get that kind of money. So,

1352
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: while he is making visits elsewhere, is it enough to

1353
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: convince people to pony up even more money than that

1354
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: and sign him to an offer sheet. That's something we're

1355
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to wait and see, right, And he's also

1356
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: Patrick Before we get to your running back question. The

1357
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: other thing, is this his value to the Bills maybe

1358
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: something that doesn't show up on tape, and the value

1359
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: that we've heard from him in the locker room now

1360
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: when when they when teams evaluate him, what they'll evaluate

1361
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 1: is what is shown in game film when he's blocking,

1362
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 1: and it comes down to can he win a one

1363
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: on one matchup with a one technique or a three technique?

1364
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: You know, can he can he win a one on

1365
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: one matchup with a defensive tackle? And how good a

1366
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 1: defensive tackle does it take to beat him one on one?

1367
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: If that's not a big enough, if he can't clear

1368
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: that hurdle, that's where the value will drop. But when

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01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: you get into a game and he's down there and

1370
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: he's the guy making the calls, and he's the guy

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01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: communicating between the center and the tackle, and they he

1372
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: makes their jobs clear as a bell and everybody knows

1373
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing, and his ability to communicate is

1374
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 1: better than what they've had in the past, then his

1375
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: value goes up. But I don't know that you can

1376
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: see that on film. What is on film is his

1377
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: ability to win. That's why he was an undrafted rookie

1378
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: free agent. The physical traits just aren't there, but his

1379
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: intelligence and his ability to think and his ability to

1380
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: communicate makes him a little higher, and it gave him

1381
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: the ability to play for the Buffalo Bills and hang around.

1382
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: That's the question of what you're going to see with

1383
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 1: the contracts the teams offer him and how valuable he

1384
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: is to the Buffalo Bills. All right, so what's the

1385
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: running back question? Patrick, but Duke Johnson, I'm kind of

1386
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: on the fence about. But there's a player I thought

1387
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of gone under the radar across the league,

1388
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,680
Speaker 1: and I thought would add a good element to our

1389
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: rushing game because we don't have that bigger running back

1390
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: that you know it's it's fourth and one or two

1391
01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 1: that can really like pound it through. And I wanted

1392
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: Rodd Stevenson last year in the fourth round, which New

1393
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: England got. Yeah, they got him in the fifth, right,

1394
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: Thomas Jones because I know Tampa Bay just resigned for

1395
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: that Ronald Jones, and I know against the cap. Don't

1396
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: you think Ronald Jones would be because he could catch

1397
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 1: the ball, He's really athletic, he's a heavier guy, he's

1398
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: a good rubber. Don't you think he would be a

1399
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: better match than Buffalo's backfield the Duke Johnson? Yeah, I

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01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 1: mean that's hard to say. I would say this though.

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01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean Ronald Jones is five eleven two oh seven,

1402
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 1: so I mean he's not small, but he's not gigantic either.

1403
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 1: When I think of fourth downbacks, short yardage guys, I'm

1404
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 1: thinking people that are over two fifteen, closer to two twenty, yeah,

1405
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 1: or even bigger than that. I mean. Jones also does

1406
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: have a history of fumbling problems, which is why he's

1407
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:48,960
Speaker 1: never really been able to hold down a full time

1408
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 1: starting job. He's often been a part of committee backfields.

1409
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: Same with Duke Johnson. Yeah, Duke Johnson has been a

1410
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: committee back for the majority of his career as well.

1411
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: And I think that's what they would be walking into here.

1412
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: You're like Ronald Jones more than Duke Johnson. That's fine.

1413
01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. Maybe his asking

1414
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: price is considerably higher than that of Duke Johnson. And

1415
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 1: we know that the Bills are on a fixed income

1416
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,000
Speaker 1: right now after signing some of the people they've signed,

1417
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 1: most notably von Miller, So that could be at play two.

1418
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: It could be cost effectiveness maybe more than anything else. Yeah,

1419
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: And it may just be that their evaluation is different

1420
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: than yours as well. They may know things or not

1421
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 1: know things that you know and vice versus. So they

1422
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: picked the guys they picked for their room for their

1423
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 1: own reasons, most of which you could probably understand if

1424
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: we were privy to what they were. But I'm with you.

1425
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: When I was playing, we had in and out of

1426
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: the game. We had running backs like we had kill

1427
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: a brew in here for a minute. We had some

1428
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 1: other big backs that would come through, and they liked it.

1429
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: Carwill Gardener was a big fullback. Jamie Mueller was a

1430
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 1: big back when he came in. Then he got he

1431
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: got down to play. You know, when the Bills went

1432
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: to single back, he drops some weight. But it seemed like,

1433
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, the old teams always had that big short

1434
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: yardage guy. The difference is this, the Bills are in

1435
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,520
Speaker 1: a little different situation than most of the NFL teams,

1436
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 1: not all of them, but most of them. In this

1437
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: you get down and I get what you mean this

1438
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: red zone. You get to want a big hammer on

1439
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: fourth and shure, you want to hand it off. The

1440
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: problem is this, the Bills have the best short yardage

1441
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: back in the league taking snaps. Josh is the best

1442
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: short yardage running back in the National Football League because

1443
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: he can throw it and run it and he can

1444
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: get outside, and he can outrun people, and he can move.

1445
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: He's nifty. So the Bills don't really need to spend

1446
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: money on a short yardage back when they don't have to.

1447
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:47,720
Speaker 1: They've got regular running backs who are gonna be good

1448
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,040
Speaker 1: enough because if the hole is there, Josh will give

1449
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: it to him. If it's not, he pulls it out

1450
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: and he's off around the edge, falls forward, first down,

1451
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: Let's go. Josh changes their need to have a two

1452
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty p down jackhammer at fullback. We have

1453
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: to take a break here. More of your phone calls

1454
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 1: when we return. Richard and Orchard, Rick and Orchard Park

1455
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: and others holding. Stay where you are. We'll get to

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01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,160
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Speaker 1: pretty good get right there, get an autographed helmet before

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01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: he's even taking the field. Come on, that's hot, hot stuff.

1463
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: Just trying to stoke the fires here. Get people going,

1464
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: people amped up about von eight oh three, five fifty

1465
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,200
Speaker 1: the number to get on board. We are going back

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Speaker 1: to the phones and we go to Rick in Orchard.

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01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: Are what you got first? Rick? Hey, guys, thanks Chris.

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01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:06,839
Speaker 1: I don't think you have to add anything to get

1469
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 1: everybody's stoked up about Mark Miller. I was just trying

1470
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 1: to get fired up here. He's I've got a non

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01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: sexy first round comment. Okay, I know everybody kind of

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01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 1: wants us. You know, at least on you know, social media,

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01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: you see a lot of stuff about UM wide receiver

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01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,599
Speaker 1: corner pack and stuff like that. The wide receiver class

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01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: to me is deep, and yeah, I could see us

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01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: to add anyone. But at twenty five, and man, I

1477
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: watch a lot of college football games. I'm not Brandon Bean.

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01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: I'd probably watch eight games of a weekend. This kid,

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01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 1: this guard from Boston College. And I know most people

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01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,760
Speaker 1: it's not sexy, but Zion Johnson, the guard out of

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01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: Boston College. If that young man is there at twenty five,

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01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: you put in next to Spencer Brown on the right side,

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01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: and your right side is taking care of for the

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01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 1: next ten to twelve years. Um. I just love the

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01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:14,440
Speaker 1: way that kid moves his feet. He's a punishing blocker. UM.

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01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: He's a smart kid. He does not quit on any

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01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,639
Speaker 1: plays that I've watched all, you know, all last year. UM.

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01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: I just think that's an aspect I think and I

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01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: hope the Bills look at. And I know it's not

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01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,800
Speaker 1: sexy for a lot of people. UM, but I think

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01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: we could dip in later in the you know, draft

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01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: for a cornerback like flow it out of lsu UM.

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01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't think there's much difference between him and some

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01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: of the other guys UM and wide receiver. I think

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01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: there's a ton of guys that that you can, you know,

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01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: pencil in if that's the direction they want to go.

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01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to see your thoughts. Yeah. Oh and Steve,

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01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: by the way, my father in law told me to

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01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 1: tell you how if I call it in. So I'm

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Speaker 1: doing so okay, great, Thanks for the call. Rick. I

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01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: will say this, I think if I think how the

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01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Bates situation plays out, And for those that don't know,

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01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,960
Speaker 1: he's a restricted free agent. The Bills tender to qualifying offer,

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01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: which means they maintain the right of first refusal, So

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01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: if he signs an offer sheet with another team, the

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01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 1: Bills will have the right to match the contract to

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01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: retain Bates. However, if he signed to a type of

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01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,839
Speaker 1: contract that the Bills can't match because a cap restraints,

1509
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: what have you, there's a good chance he's on another team.

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01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 1: I think if that happens your scenario, Rick is not

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01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: out of the realm of possibility. And Zion Johnson is

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01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: a guy that has been ranked in that area of

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01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 1: around one down in the high twenties. So yeah, if

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01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: you don't have Ryan Bates back in the fold for

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 1: next year, yes, I think you could foresee that as

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01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: an option. I don't. I still don't know that it's

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01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: the number one priority. But let's just say there's a

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01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 1: corner there that they like and suddenly he's off the

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01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 1: board right before the Bills pick, Well, then I think

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01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson, Yes, he does become a potential option there

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01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: at twenty five. Well you think, well, today, I don't

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01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 1: think there's any way they take a guard over a

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01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver corner at twenty five today. That could change

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01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: by the time the draft happens, but I don't think

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01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: they have enough depth at corner to go into this

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01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: draft and get twenty five and not get a guy

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01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: at twenty five in my opinion, at twenty five, in

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01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: this draft, with cornerback depth that they have, you can

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01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: get a guy you're gonna plug in and you're gonna

1530
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: expect him to play right across from a Turdavious White.

1531
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 1: That guy's getting plugged in. You expect him to be

1532
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: that Now. If Dane Jackson holds him off, all the

1533
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: better doesn't matter. But you're getting a guy with some

1534
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: physical traits who can really play at twenty five and

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01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: right now today, the way the rosters constructed, they need

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,919
Speaker 1: corners who can play. So that's what it is today. Certainly,

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01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 1: if they sign in my estimation, to get away from

1538
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: that fact, they'd have to sign two guys at corner

1539
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: not to have that be the case, depending on who

1540
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: it is, unless say, you know, unless they hit another

1541
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: home you know whatever, unless they sign another Von Miller

1542
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 1: playing cornerback, which I don't think it's gonna happen, but

1543
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: I yeah, today I don't think that's They're not going

1544
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: to go anyplace except corner. Maybe wide out if if

1545
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: a huge guy drops down that far, but not the

1546
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 1: way the roster's constructed today, you can't ignore that spot

1547
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: and get and take a guard, not the Zion Johnson

1548
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: isn't a really good player, because he is, and you're right,

1549
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna go in that area. But the Bills aren't

1550
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: sitting that spot with their roster right now, right and

1551
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 1: so I think the bait the baits situation could change

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01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: the conversation slightly. I don't know if it's going to

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01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 1: move get right to the point where they move off

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01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 1: what they know they need, you know, right there at

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01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: the top of if they use baits, maybe that does

1556
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: put Zion Johnson in the conversation. Yeah, but only when

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01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: they can get around to where he's there on a

1558
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 1: different pick, because because right now they got If you

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01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: looked across the board at the Bill's positions, you know

1560
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: you have ones that are blinking and red and blinking

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01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,719
Speaker 1: and yellow and not blinking at all. Cornerback is blinking

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01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,960
Speaker 1: and red right now. Red alert, red alert. We have

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01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 1: to address cornerback, and they might do something in free agency,

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01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 1: but even if they do, I would still maintain there's

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01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 1: a chance that they address it first in the draft.

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01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: All Right, we gotta take a break, Steve and I

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01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: to close it up next year. On One Bills Live

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 1: welcome back one Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

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01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: and I think in the end here Steve the The

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01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: winner of the poll was still O. J. Howard, I believe. Yeah,

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01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: I think he ended up fifty five percent. Last I checked,

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01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: of the got over seven hundred votes in on that. Yeah,

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01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 1: fifty five and a half percent. And Jason Jamison Crowder

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01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: was a third, which he's not even signed yet. Yeah,

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01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 1: I did look up. You know. Jamison Crowder's career against

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01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,720
Speaker 1: the Bills. Had one game as a member of the

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01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Washington Football team or the Washington Commanders now, and he

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01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: had a mere three catches for twenty one yards. He

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01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 1: was a sub back then because that was his rookie year.

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01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 1: And then twenty nineteen Week one, he had fourteen receptions

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01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: for ninety nine yards, fourteen catches on seventeen targets. Then

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01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: he had eight catches for sixty six yards and a

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01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:54,360
Speaker 1: touchdown in twenty nineteen at the end of the year.

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01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: That was a game they won thirteen to six. He

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01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 1: had the game winning touchdown and had eight catch is

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01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 1: on ten targets, and then the twenty twenty game that

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01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 1: we already referenced. Week one, he had the sixteen nine

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01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 1: yard touchdown, seven receptions, one hundred and fifteen yards. That

1590
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,480
Speaker 1: was on thirteen targets, So not super efficient, but super productive.

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01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: And then the last two games he played against the

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01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: Bills twenty twenty one. In Week ten, he only had

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01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: three catches for twenty yards. He was targeted just five times.

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01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 1: Now granted this is with a rookie quarterback. And then

1595
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: in week eighteen he had one reception for sixteen yards

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01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 1: as he was a substitute in that game. So it's

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01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 1: got some production though. I mean you were talking about

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01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: the Isaiah McKenzie game, you know, twelve targets, eleven receptions.

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01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: He's got some games like that, and against the Bills.

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01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Against the Bills too, that's you know, it's always a

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01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: good resume builder when the team that's looking at you

1602
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: is got some tape against themselves. Well, yeah, because they

1603
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: know the personnel, the quality of the personnel he's going against. Yeah,

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01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: and if he could still win, that's pretty good. And

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01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:03,719
Speaker 1: I'll say this too, that it's there is something about

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01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: getting a guy from your opponent, uh that that's a

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01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: that's a plus whether it is or not. But you

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01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 1: know Jameson, he has not signed yet, but he's a

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01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 1: guy that But I think both you and I are

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01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: kind of up. Are thumbs up on that signing if

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01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 1: it happens. Yeah, looking forward to it. Not a blockbuster

1612
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 1: like von Miller, but still it's one of those signings

1613
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 1: you go hey, guy, might help. Stay tuned to Buffalo

1614
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: Bills dot coms for free agency updates. We'll see tomorrow

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01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: at one