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THERÉSA: Hello, my mortal and undead friends. Welcome back. It's been

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THERÉSA: a minute since we last spoke, but it feels like forever. Unexpectedly,

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THERÉSA: the holiday season is a really lively time in purgatory.

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THERÉSA: I guess, why not? Right. Ugh, Len. Enough. Stop. Between

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THERÉSA: the end of year deadlines and holiday parties. I barely

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THERÉSA: know what day it is anymore, but it feels good

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THERÉSA: to welcome the new year. A clean slate, a fresh start.

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THERÉSA: I've learned a lot this past year. The meaning of life,

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THERÉSA: the meaning of death, how to preen a great horned owl. Yep,

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THERÉSA: it's all starting to click. Might even be the year

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THERÉSA: I finally cross over to the other side. That would

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THERÉSA: make sense considering how at peace I feel. No, nothing, fine.

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THERÉSA: Truth is, there is a little unfinished business from twenty

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THERÉSA: twenty four that we have to attend to. The Haunting

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THERÉSA: HQ holiday party. Yes, our team is small, but somehow Len, Merlin,

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THERÉSA: Carol from Accounting and I overdid it on peppermint schnapps

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THERÉSA: and got into a little trouble with the HR overlords. Yes, yes,

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THERÉSA: we know you're watching. We all have to share written

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THERÉSA: apologies and formally forgive one another in order to expunge

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THERÉSA: this from our professional records, So let's get this over with.

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THERÉSA: I'll go first. Len, I'm sorry that during our office

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THERÉSA: holiday party, I drunkenly started calling you Little Boy Boo,

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THERÉSA: and every time you tried to speak, I loudly said,

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THERÉSA: do you guys hear someone crying? Even though it was

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THERÉSA: a pretty solid bit and people were laughing. Fine striking

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THERÉSA: that last part. I'm sorry.

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LEN: [MUMBLES]

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THERÉSA: Great! I feel lighter already. Let's get started with our

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THERÉSA: first story. Melissa and her husband's long weekend in wine

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THERÉSA: country went from romantic to frantic when they got mixed

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THERÉSA: up with the wrong kind of spirits.

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STORY A: When we got back to the hotel, it was very quiet,

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STORY A: My name is Melissa, and I stayed in a hotel

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STORY A: where something terrible happened. Back in 2007, we were living

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STORY A: in La Jolla, California. My husband's friends were getting married

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STORY A: and we were going up to Napa. It was Memorial

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STORY A: Day weekend, and it was also my birthday. My husband

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STORY A: like that. We flew up to Napa, got into our

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STORY A: rental car, drove to the hotel that my husband had booked,

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STORY A: and it turns out he had booked wrong frickin' hotel.

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STORY A: I was really annoyed and really frustrated because it was

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STORY A: an hour away from the wedding festivities. So we get

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STORY A: back in the car and we're looking to see what

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STORY A: hotels were available. We kept scrolling through different places, calling,

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STORY A: We finally stumble upon this hotel named the Napa River Inn.

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STORY A: That sounded really charming and it was an old home

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STORY A: and they said specifically, we have one room left. I

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STORY A: When we finally get to the Napa River Inn, it

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STORY A: It was against the river, so it's just very picturesque.

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STORY A: The hotel was all brick and it was very small,

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STORY A: but it was just a charming home converted into an inn.

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STORY A: Almost like I was feeling her sadness. The next morning,

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STORY A: and there was a security guard standing there. I said,

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STORY A: the walls were filled with all these black and white photographs.

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STORY A: There were photos of the exterior of the Napa River Inn,

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STORY A: from when the building was built, and there were family photos.

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STORY A: Hatt Junior, married a woman named Margaret. Albert Junior hung

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STORY A: other guests have had experiences. People have seen Margaret in

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STORY A: a white dress and she seemed to be looking for someone.

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STORY A: People hear sounds, they've heard footsteps pacing back and forth.

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STORY A: My poor husband, he was scared. He was terrified of

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STORY A: I see those photos. I noticed one of them looked

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STORY A: He was like, I'm getting the hell out of here.

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STORY A: We got into the room and started to pack up

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STORY A: find about the Napa River Inn and lo and behold,

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STORY A: I found out that Margaret's husband, Albert Junior, hung himself

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THERÉSA: Oh that's a shame. Napa is really beautiful, especially early summer.

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THERÉSA: Last time I was there was for a bachelorette party.

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THERÉSA: We didn't see any ghosts, but we did see the

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THERÉSA: bride fully cheat on her fiance with one of the sommeliers.

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THERÉSA: That's a secret. I literally took to my grave because

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THERÉSA: I'm an awesome friend.

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THERÉSA: Alright, back to our HR mandated apology tour. Len, you're up.

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LEN: [MUMBLES]

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THERÉSA: Whoa, I don't even remember you saying that. Tell him,

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THERÉSA: not me.

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THERÉSA: [MUMBLES]

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THERÉSA: Jeez, Len, you were really on one. We forgive you.

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THERÉSA: It feels good to atone, doesn't it? New Year, new us! Alright,

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THERÉSA: on to another story. This next ghost is giving "Ghost". Hey,

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THERÉSA: we should try and get Patrick Swayze on the pod.

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THERÉSA: I bet he'd do it. He dated my mom in

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THERÉSA: the eighties, pre-dirty Dancing. But still.

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STORY B: I had this immediate, bone chilling, frozen moment where I'm like,

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STORY B: nothing's making sense anymore. So I whirled the chair around

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STORY B: and there's nothing there. I'm Shelby and one night something

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STORY B: in my house was imitating me and my husband's behavior

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STORY B: and then put its hand on my shoulder. It was 2012.

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STORY B: without looking up, I said, "Hi, babe, how's your sauce

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STORY B: It was almost like whatever was behind me now passed

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STORY B: just sitting there for what feels like an eternity, and

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STORY B: Whatever that air was opened your son's door. It's in there.

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STORY B: My next thought is, what if he's gone?Because he's so quiet,

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STORY B: doesn't even really acknowledge me when I walk in, which

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STORY B: was weird. He doesn't really seem to notice that I've

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STORY B: come in the room. He's just sort of looking over

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STORY B: my head, just staring at a spot above his doorframe,

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STORY B: kind of quietly, which is odd for a baby. And

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STORY B: at the spot. So I turn around to see what

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STORY B: he's looking at, and there's nothing there. J ust the

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STORY B: empty space over the doorway. I'm holding him. He doesn't

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STORY B: seem to be upset. He doesn't seem to be hurt,

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STORY B: he's just quiet. And then at that point everything starts

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STORY B: to feel like it's getting normal again, and I don't

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STORY B: feel danger anymore. And my husband, he starts trying to

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STORY B: explain it away. Maybe I just imagined those noises. Maybe

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STORY B: he wasn't massaging my shoulder. What if I was just

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STORY B: causes drafts to open and close doors. I know that

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STORY B: the temperature change couldn't have just happened. And I know

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STORY B: what my husband's hand feels like. I know it was

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STORY B: He's never done that before, He's never done it since.

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STORY B: He was looking at something. Something woke him up. Something got

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STORY B: his attention. Something got my attention. So it was almost like, Okay,

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STORY B: he and I are in this together. He knows and

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STORY B: I know something happened. The house is gone now. We

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STORY B: where does the ghost go? Is he now haunting someone's

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THERÉSA: Shelby raises a really good question. I guess I'd be

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THERÉSA: inclined to stay, but only if I could leave during

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THERÉSA: construction and then come back, and only if it's still

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THERÉSA: a residential dwelling. I'm not trying to haunt a Planet Fitness. Alright,

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THERÉSA: let's take a break.

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THERÉSA: Okay, onto our next public apology. Carol from accounting. Carol! Carol? Yikes.

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THERÉSA: Apparently Carol's crimes at the holiday party were so heinous,

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THERÉSA: she went straight to hell. And I guess paychecks will

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THERÉSA: be late this week. Merlin, your turn, I forgot you

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THERÉSA: pooped in Len's beer. We forgive you. Three out of four.

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THERÉSA: Not bad, and at least we dodged a training module

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THERÉSA: this time. That's all we've got for today. If you've

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THERÉSA: ever had a paranormal experience, email us at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com, and

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THERÉSA: if not, drop a line anyway. We want to hear

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THERÉSA: your holiday party horror stories. They can't be worse than Carol's.

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THERÉSA: Until next time, From our Haunting fam to yours, we

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THERÉSA: wish you a very happy New Year and may all

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THERÉSA: your business be finished.

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Speaker 5: hosted by Laura Lapkus as her character Therésa. Producer Len

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Speaker 5: Walker is played by Trey Morgan. Haunting is written by

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Speaker 5: Aleah Welsh, with additional writing by Nancy Glass, Trey Morgan,

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Speaker 5: and Ben Fetterman. Editing and sound designed by Matt Delvecchio

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Speaker 5: and mixed by Dave Saia. Operations and production support by

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Speaker 5: Kristen Melchiorre. Additional production support by Curry Richman and Todd Ganz.

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Speaker 5: Haunting's theme and original compositions were composed by Oliver Baines

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Speaker 5: and Dorry Macaulay of Noiser. Music Library provided by Mybe

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Speaker 5: Music Special thanks to Speakeasy Sound Studios in Burbank, California.

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