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Speaker 1: The Chiefs get an eighth consecutive AFC West Championship with

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Speaker 1: there's even more to that victory. On this episode of

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Speaker 1: Defending the Kingdom, we will explore what this means the

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Speaker 1: Football League the Chiefs, Isaiah Pichecko. And of course it's

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Speaker 1: all brought to you by Ticketmaster. As Mahomes looks to

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Speaker 2: Of the ends ud touchdown Danzas City actually a circle

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Speaker 2: route by Isaiah Pacheco. The Chiefs went four by one

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Speaker 2: after the Pacheco motion and he circles into the end zone.

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Speaker 2: A new wrinkle for the Chiefs. And Hi everyone, and

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Speaker 2: welcome to this edition of Defending the Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: What this means. We also bring you Matt McMillan's hat collection. Uhh,

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Speaker 3: For those of you not watching, We have thirteen hats

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Speaker 3: one of these hats represents something achieved by the Kansas

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Speaker 3: City Chiefs since twenty sixteen. This all began with this

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Speaker 3: hat way back in twenty sixteen. I was an intern

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Speaker 3: the division in twenty sixteen, the Chiefs gave me this hat.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was the coolest thing. My favorite team

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Speaker 3: And I've just collected these ever since. So we have

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Speaker 3: eight division title hats, three conference champion hats, and then

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Speaker 3: these two in the middle, two Super Bowl championship hats

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Speaker 3: since twenty sixteen. It's been a remarkable run. And when

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Speaker 1: It's nuts, right, it's awesome. It's like looking at a

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Speaker 1: rock collection. But it's also leads us to the theme

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Speaker 1: of this episode of defending the Kingdom and what this means.

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Speaker 1: What did they victory over Cincinnati mean? And we're going

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have Isaiah Pacheco on here just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But what does this mean? But before we get into that,

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Speaker 1: let's take these hats, jump into your space station and

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Speaker 1: orbit the Earth with another around the world with Matt McMullan.

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Speaker 3: So just two for you today, how about for two

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Speaker 1: Is what even introduced you? He's also the senior team reporter.

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Speaker 1: I just am here along for the ride.

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Speaker 3: We're fired up, fired up. This is an exciting time.

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Speaker 3: So shout out to Melissa and her son Cooper in Knoxville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: Govall's rocket top. They're hoping to come to a game

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Speaker 3: And then Nicky and Hannibal Missouri. We've heard from Nicky

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Speaker 3: Mary is ninety one years old and watches every single

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Speaker 1: Also Mark Twain's hometown. So Mark Twain was a Chief fan.

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Speaker 3: So sure, yep. That's all I got. All right too

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Speaker 1: All right, that's good. And again, what does this mean

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Speaker 3: Eight straight division titles, eight straight. Think about that, and

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Speaker 3: nine straight playoff runs. It doesn't happen in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And the Chiefs think of who they're tied with for

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Speaker 1: this edition of Defending the Kingdom called what this means

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Speaker 1: to bring in the one we call Pop Isaiah Pacheco,

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Speaker 1: coming off a career game in the victory over the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you this because it seemed like

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Speaker 1: the fuse to this game. How much was that was

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Speaker 4: Oh, it was big, very big this week. That was

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Speaker 4: It's going to take you, guys of this game to

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Speaker 3: Let's look at your numbers here from the game. One

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing is you didn't practice until Friday because

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Speaker 1: It was?

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Speaker 4: It was difficult, I'll say, because doing the protocol testing

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Speaker 1: Our training stamps awesome in your shoulder. The way you

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Speaker 4: It's it's big for me. It's something that I always

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Speaker 3: So I have a very serious question, can you speak

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Speaker 3: to the power of the swag surf? Because they play

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Speaker 4: Hey, they have me on the bench going. I had

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Speaker 4: want to start doing the swags or you know, that's

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Speaker 4: that's something we may we may bring that on to

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Speaker 4: something that I may be new to, and I'm pretty

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Speaker 3: It's effective, it works, it's catching on.

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Speaker 1: Last night on the Chiefs Kingdom show. First of all,

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Speaker 1: do it. Oh, let's go. I can't wait, man, playoff game.

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Speaker 1: We got a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sure, let's go. Yeah, turn it up. Well,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing, so Willy, there's there's cameras on Willie,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you see? I mean two thirty plus

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Speaker 4: I was thinking, this is what we practiced on that Friday.

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Speaker 1: The data.

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Speaker 1: And that's what it did.

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Speaker 4: We brought it together and made a great player.

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Speaker 3: Mitch asked you about this a little bit already, but

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Speaker 1: So this defending the Kingdom theme is what's this mean?

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Speaker 1: This means it's pop time. Isaiah Pacheco. What a career

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Speaker 3: I just love his spirit, like his energy on the field,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned our training staff, you mentioned Julie Freimeyer.

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Speaker 1: But it leads us into our second portion of defending

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Speaker 3: It was Chase Daniel, the quarterback, the chase in it

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Speaker 1: Yards four the bellcow, Yeah, the sausage. Yep. Sherman became

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Speaker 1: Because it takes us to the COVID year of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs can't move the needle again. They won the division.

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Speaker 3: It was third and fifteen, the Chiefs for up like

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Speaker 3: four points, I think, and then he scrambled to make

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Speaker 3: it fourth and inches, and Coach Reid on his side

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Speaker 3: of the field has Chad Henny throw a pass to

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Speaker 3: win the game. I mean, just one of the most

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Speaker 3: awesome displays of coaching and having faith in your guys

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Speaker 3: I think I've ever seen.

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Speaker 1: But you're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the guy's talked about how that game in

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Speaker 3: week seventeen prepared Chad for that moment just a couple

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Speaker 3: weeks later, So you're right. These games do matter. And

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Speaker 3: think about the wear and tear on the Chiefs over

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Speaker 3: the last several years. The Chiefs have played a one

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Speaker 3: hundred and twelve total games since twenty eighteen. It's five

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Speaker 3: more than the Rams, who are the next closest team.

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Speaker 3: Ninety eight regular season games. Everyone's played those, but then

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Speaker 3: fourteen playoff games since twenty eighteen. It's basically a full

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Speaker 3: extra season the Chiefs have played in that same amount

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Speaker 3: of time. So any opportunity to just relax, to give

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Speaker 3: guys an opportunity to get their head right, get their

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Speaker 3: bodies right, and then at the same time, give other

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Speaker 3: players an opportunity to show what they can do to

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Speaker 3: get live game reps, because you can't replicate those in practice,

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Speaker 3: you can only do it in the game. So one

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Speaker 3: of the things I'm looking for in this game, the

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Speaker 3: defense overall has a chance to finish as the number

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Speaker 3: one scoring defense in the NFL. We need the Ravens

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Speaker 3: who might be playing backups, and the forty nine ers

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Speaker 3: to struggle a little bit and for the Chiefs defense

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Speaker 3: to play really well. But it'd be awesome if our

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Speaker 3: young defenders can go out there, really play a great

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Speaker 3: game against the Chargers and maybe finish as the number

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Speaker 3: one scoring defense in the league.

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Speaker 1: So what does this mean. We've put the first portion

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Speaker 1: in historical context overall, even dating back to the first

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Speaker 1: days of the league or the first days of the

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Speaker 1: American Football League. Secondly, we've told you about this week

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Speaker 1: and again in a recent history historical context of what

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Speaker 1: even playing the backups could mean in this game against

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Speaker 1: the Chargers this week, you think a guys like Felix

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Speaker 1: and new Diquie Ozama and other guys who we put in,

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Speaker 1: you get more reps for Awanie Morris, guys that have

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Speaker 1: not Cam Jones.

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Speaker 3: Nick Jones, and E. J. J. Thompson, maybe Echo Boido.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are all guys that could be stars

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Speaker 1: in this game that could lead to a playoff victory

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Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks or and then also over

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Speaker 1: the next couple of years that could propel them. But

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Speaker 1: there is a third advantage for the Chiefs, and that

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Speaker 1: has been a disadvantage for the Chiefs in the month

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Speaker 1: of December, and that is five straight opponents. I put

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Speaker 1: this on Twitter. It started a firestorm. Five straight opponents

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Speaker 1: though had anywhere from ten to fourteen to eleven to

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Speaker 1: nine ten days to prepare for the Chiefs five straight

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Speaker 1: weeks in December. The Chiefs had to gut through that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there are two and three in those three games. But

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Speaker 1: now the Chiefs get that advantage by resting some of

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Speaker 1: their principal players in this week against the Chargers. And

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Speaker 1: what's the other side of this is that whomever the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs play, it could be five separate opponents in the

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Speaker 1: opening round of the playoffs, and Matt, all five of

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Speaker 1: those teams are going to be gutting it out this

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Speaker 1: weekend in many ways win or go home games in

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Speaker 1: the AFC. That could be an advantage for the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: to watch this let the fur fly. And because these

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Speaker 1: are games where teams are playing, the Buffalo Bills could

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Speaker 1: be playing for their playoff lives.

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Speaker 3: Can I go over playoff scenarios, Let's do it. I

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Speaker 3: was doing this last night and Ellie told me I

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Speaker 3: needed to come in the other room and eat dinner,

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Speaker 3: and I said, I was in the lab. I couldn't

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Speaker 3: come et dinner. I was very busy going.

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Speaker 1: Through don't touch the genius, don't don't hot play. That's

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Speaker 1: what microwaves are for, thank you.

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Speaker 3: So, as Mitch said, the Chiefs are locked into the

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Speaker 3: three seed. Doesn't matter what they do or what anyone

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Speaker 3: else does this weekend in terms of their particular seed,

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs are the three seed in the playoffs this year. Now,

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Speaker 3: if the Bills beat the Dolphins on the final game

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Speaker 3: of the season on Sunday night, then the Dolphins will

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Speaker 3: be the opponent, no matter what, no matter what else happens,

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Speaker 3: If the Bills beat the Dolphins, it'll be Dolphins at

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Speaker 3: Chiefs wild Card weekend. Now, if the Dolphins beat the Bills,

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Speaker 3: it gets a little bit interesting.

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Speaker 1: Boy, does it.

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Speaker 3: So there are four scenarios in which we would play

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Speaker 3: the Bills here in Kansas City in the wildcard round.

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Speaker 3: They all include Tennessee beating Jacksonville, which would be a

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Speaker 3: surprise because Tennessee is already eliminated from the playoffs and

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Speaker 3: Will Levis got hurt last week. Ryan Tanneil had to

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Speaker 3: come in Jacksonville. They don't necessarily have to win, but

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Speaker 3: they want to win because there are some scenarios where

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Speaker 3: they could miss the playoffs if they lose, so Jacksonville

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Speaker 3: needs to win. They win, they win the division, so

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Speaker 3: they get the fourth seed exactly. Sosonville is playing to win.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if Trevor Lawrence is back, but Tennessee beating

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville is the only way that we might end up

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Speaker 3: playing Buffalo. Now, we could also end up playing Houston, Indianapolis,

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Speaker 3: or Pittsburgh. We have two scenarios each to play each

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Speaker 3: of those teams. Basically, if Jacksonville and Miami both win,

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs will play the winner of Texans and Colts,

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Speaker 3: which is on Saturday night. If Tennessee beats Jacksonville, though,

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Speaker 3: and if the Dolphins go on to beat the Bills,

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Speaker 3: that's where things get really weird. And it's kind of

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Speaker 3: hard to talk about because there's like a million different scenarios,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, a lot of different things could happen in

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Speaker 3: that game on Sunday Night where the Bills are playing

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins. A lot of it comes down to that.

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Speaker 3: And get this, if Pittsburgh Jacksonville and Miami all win,

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Speaker 3: the Bills would miss the playoffs. The Bills can either

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Speaker 3: be the two seed or miss the playoffs entirely. So

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a last week game of the whole grid.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: There could be so much pressure in that game, Matt,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be crazy.

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Speaker 3: And either way, this is something that we were talking about.

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Speaker 3: What's kind of the common denominator and all of this, well,

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Speaker 3: a lot of these teams pretty much all of these

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Speaker 3: opponents not pretty much. Actually, all of these opponents that

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs could potentially play on wild Card Weekend, each

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Speaker 3: of them is trying to win this weekend like they

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Speaker 3: have to win. They have a lot on the line.

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Speaker 3: Nothing is guaranteed for any of them. So that means

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Speaker 3: that whoever the Chiefs are going to play Wildcard Weekend

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Speaker 3: is going to be coming off a game in which

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Speaker 3: it was likely hard fought and a game that they

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Speaker 3: poured everything into, and that, in my mind, is an

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Speaker 3: advantage for the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: And again it's been just the converse in the month

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Speaker 1: of December to end the regular season, with the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: facing just the opposite. Now, all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs get a chance to rest players and wait to

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Speaker 1: see how the smoke clears and what is going to

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Speaker 1: be an amazing weekend of tough games in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: So you wanted to know what did the win over

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Speaker 1: the Bengals do? Well, I think Matt and I just

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Speaker 1: laiter out for you and what this means